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Jaguars Happy Hour | Jaguars to Watch vs. Dolphins in Preseason Week 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August twenty. First, this is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: busy two hours ahead Happy Hour this hour, the Liam
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  Speaker 1: Cohen Show coming up at five o'clock, a Jaguars Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: practice review, the team's met on the practice fields today,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get a review of that practice session over
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  Speaker 1: at the Dolphins facility outside of hard Rock Stadium, playing
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  Speaker 1: time expectations in the game on Saturday night, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course the roster cut looming next week down to
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  Speaker 1: fifty three going on Tuesday at four o'clock, and then
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  Speaker 1: the Liam Cohen Show at five. As we mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 1: in this preseason no head coach until week one of
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. We've got James Gladstone and Tony Boselli's
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  Speaker 1: scheduled to join us here tonight on ten to NeXT's
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logaman joining us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we're at the Team Hotel in Fort Lauderdale, ground central
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars all week long here in South Florida. Logs,
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  Speaker 1: good afternoon, Good afternoon, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just thinking, thank god, we don't have
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  Speaker 2: a coach a show with Mike McDaniel.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that You ever listen to that guy? Did
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  Speaker 1: you see him out on the field today?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm today, I mean, Jaguar fans be happy you've
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  Speaker 2: got Liam Cohen, Mike McDaniels.
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  Speaker 1: He's an odd bird.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how so, Logs, have you ever watched this press
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  Speaker 2: conferences live?
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  Speaker 1: A few? Yes? Yes? Did you remember anything from him?
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  Speaker 1: I remember that they're interesting, and he's just he's all
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  Speaker 1: over the map, and uh, you know, and and the
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  Speaker 1: thing that I don't, I mean, he's probably not gonna
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  Speaker 1: last very long, I don't think here in Miami. But
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  Speaker 1: you look at him out there on the practice and
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  Speaker 1: here's what I saw today. I see a coach that's
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  Speaker 1: wearing a look at me outfit and a team that
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  Speaker 1: is all in dressed in different ways shapes and form.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's there's If.
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  Speaker 2: Tom called from the word to watch a Mike McDaniel
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  Speaker 2: coach team, he would lose his mind. Mike McDaniel was
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  Speaker 2: wearing school bus yellow sneakers today. Okay, okay, what part.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Miami Dolphins uniform has school bus yellow. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not familiar with the whole Dolphins attire, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: not much. None. I mean, if they were like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like orange, all right, there's a little orange in the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins junifly or white or what do you call that? Aqua? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm down with that. But to wear a non team
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  Speaker 1: colored outfit and then a non team colored set of
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  Speaker 1: shoes and he's wearing sunglasses in the indoor facility, it's
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  Speaker 1: like screaming, look at me. The last time I checked,
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  Speaker 1: it's not about me, It's about we when it.
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  Speaker 2: Comes to coaching football. I mean, you want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about a bad example. I mean, maybe I'm just one
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  Speaker 2: of these old guys. Get off my grass, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There might be hints of that coming out, right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe Coffin's brainwashed me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Finally, it took this long for he's been
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  Speaker 1: trying for years, decades in fact, to brainwash it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And seriously, if you look across the board at the
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  Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins players, nobody had the same pants on. Some
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  Speaker 2: guys had game pants that were cut off. They were
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  Speaker 2: like Daisy dukes. Okay, and then you.
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  Speaker 1: Weren't that high. But okay, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jaguars uniform, everybody had the same thing on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's pretty novel approach, isn't it. I mean, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't get a team to dress as a team and
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  Speaker 2: dress the same, how can you get him to play
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  Speaker 2: his team? I just don't quite understand that. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: just all right, let's give this a game. I feel
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  Speaker 2: for the Miami Dolphin fans.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the practice and all that coming up.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in practice today, but a lot. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was an interest. Was it a practice or at
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  Speaker 1: times a boxing match? Yes? At times it was. However,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first and only day the Jaguars had
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  Speaker 1: a joint practice all training camp. This is the third
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  Speaker 1: different one for the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and so they I mean they had one with Detroit,
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  Speaker 2: one with Chicago, and they did it all like one
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  Speaker 2: big travel loop, big long trip. I was actually talking
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  Speaker 2: to UH to Nat Moore and and Dan Marino out
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  Speaker 2: there at the UH at the practice field, and they
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  Speaker 2: were telling me about it and and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I sure would like to see maybe a longer,
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  Speaker 2: more involved practice and and they were saying, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the coach thinks that you know, they've already had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of them on their northern shift, and uh so
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why it was a shorter practice
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  Speaker 2: typically when you compare it to other practices that the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars have been involved in with another team.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman. What is the best thing you saw on
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  Speaker 1: the practice field from the Jacksonville Jaguars today?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the best thing between the lines? What are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about? Just play on the field. I thought the
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  Speaker 2: defense played really well today. I do, I mean two
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  Speaker 2: had no Tyreek Hill, but he still had his dynamic
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  Speaker 2: other wide receiver for Dylen Waddell, who's a really good player,
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  Speaker 2: and he did make one play down the field. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean, overall, I thought the defense was really good.
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  Speaker 2: In a two minute the defense was really good. Overall,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a frustrating day for the Miami
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  Speaker 2: Dolphins offense. So I mean that was good to seek,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And and and I watched a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of both. I thought the offensive line got I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say handled a little bit in one on one,
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  Speaker 2: but they got tested a little bit in one on one.
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  Speaker 1: The Dolphins got some guys. We've got some talent and
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  Speaker 1: high drafted talent and high paid talent on that defensive end,
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  Speaker 1: and that and that showed through, you know. And you
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  Speaker 1: got Nick Chubb over there, phillips is on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say McK chubb, Nick? What's his name, Bradley Chubb?
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  Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, Yeah, wrong Chubb? That's okay, Yeah, yeah, Bradley Chubb.
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  Speaker 1: They just traded for Matthew Judah, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: got reps today or not traded for it. He's signed
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  Speaker 1: him as a free agent.
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  Speaker 2: He's bounced around everywhere he's been with the Patriots last
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  Speaker 2: year was the Atlanta Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good player, and uh, Jalen Phillips is a
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  Speaker 1: really good football player in my opinion. And then Chop Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: the kid from Penn State. I mean he's small compared
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  Speaker 1: to the rest. I mean, well, I mean compared to
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  Speaker 1: like Jalen Phillips is like a six foot five, two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds or something like that. Chop Robbins
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  Speaker 1: is you know, six three, two fifty and then that
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  Speaker 1: two point fifty maybe two or they listen him at
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  Speaker 1: two fifty four. That may be inflated, but the guy
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  Speaker 1: can play football, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was a real good test for
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars offensive line in a really good thing to
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  Speaker 2: experience prior to going in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen told us last week on the pregame show
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  Speaker 1: interview just before kickoff, he'd like to have the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line settled after this practice. You think they've got the
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  Speaker 1: starting five in place, and who would it be in
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  Speaker 1: your opinion? Well, you know, we'll talk to the GM
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  Speaker 1: and Vicelli little Well, they don't have any of That's
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  Speaker 1: not their call. It's the head coach. Yeah, that's coach's call.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm expecting kind of what we've been seeing
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  Speaker 2: Walker Little, Ezra Cleveland, Robert Hainsey, Patrick McCarry and then
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  Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. But I really believe this that when you're
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  Speaker 2: a first year coach and you're going into the first
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  Speaker 2: season with the franchise, things aren't always written in stone.
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  Speaker 2: Willing to do whatever is best to make this football
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  Speaker 2: team the best that it can be at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the season. So they may start out with that,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't necessarily mean that they end up with that.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do, don't you, So
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  Speaker 1: stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's something to keep an eye on
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  Speaker 2: as the season progresses and as performances get analyzed and
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  Speaker 2: looked at and graded, et cetera. And then I think
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  Speaker 2: that you'll see where they go from there.
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  Speaker 1: You know. But you got you also have a couple
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  Speaker 1: guys that are injured that I think are not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: going to be factors as soon as they come back,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe soon after they come back. Well, look, cole.
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  Speaker 2: Van Lannon's got an injury, and whenever he comes back,
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy that's got his experienced plane tackle and
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  Speaker 2: has been pretty good plane tackle before, especially right and
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  Speaker 2: then Milam, who I was kind of singing his praise
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  Speaker 2: is the last couple of weeks and maybe being a
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  Speaker 2: top five offensive lineman. I think he could factor into
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  Speaker 2: that equation a little bit when he gets back. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what the injury is, but we'll
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  Speaker 2: see how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we will see how that goes in the
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  Speaker 1: coming weeks ahead. We talked to a little bit today.
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  Speaker 1: He said, he says he's doing okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I asked him, you know, because the
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  Speaker 2: last play that he played in that game against the Saints,
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  Speaker 2: I just assumed that that was the play that he
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  Speaker 2: got hurt on, and so I asked him, I said,
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  Speaker 2: was you know your last play the one you got
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  Speaker 2: hurt on? I said, you got kind of a bull
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  Speaker 2: rush and you were having a hard time kind of
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  Speaker 2: setting the anchor and he said, now, it was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of plays before, and he goes, and that's why
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  Speaker 2: I was having a hard time setting the anchor. So
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  Speaker 2: so I have to go back and actually see if
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  Speaker 2: I can find the play that had happened on. But
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  Speaker 2: he's a good football player, and I said this today,
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  Speaker 2: and I hope I don't give myself a speeding ticket.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember an offensive lineman coming into this football
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  Speaker 2: team playing at the level that he has, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't and I do. I mean, I'm saying, now, Beselli,
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  Speaker 2: he's different. I'm not talking about going back to that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking recently in recent Jaguars history. How far back?
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  Speaker 2: Ten years? I mean you go back and fifteen years? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look, Anton Harrison when he came
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  Speaker 2: in was pretty good. But I don't think there has
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  Speaker 2: been an offensive lineman that has come in ever in
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars history. And this spare with me now, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to there's a lot of caveats here. Name me
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  Speaker 2: another Jaguars offensive lineman in history. And this is also
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  Speaker 2: a question for all of us at the table here,
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  Speaker 2: because there's people behind the camera that people can't see. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: name me another offensive lineman in Jaguars history that has
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  Speaker 2: come in and has been able to play four out
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  Speaker 2: of the five offensive lineman positions and play.
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  Speaker 1: It really well. There's nobody. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was racking my brain yesterday because
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  Speaker 2: I was, you know, sitting there thinking about I said, man,
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  Speaker 2: when the last time a guy.
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  Speaker 1: Came in that could play all four? Yeah, not center,
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  Speaker 1: but he probably could snap if they asked him to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's got that level of talent
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  Speaker 1: that he could just do whatever he wants. Now, is
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  Speaker 1: he going to be a starter right away?
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  Speaker 2: That may not be the key, But I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a reason to be excited about him for the future
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  Speaker 2: because I believe that he is a future building block
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  Speaker 2: for this organization going forward.
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  Speaker 1: See, like Brad Measter might be the guy that if
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  Speaker 1: you had to throw him out at tackle, he could
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  Speaker 1: just compete and he was that kind of dude, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for a day. Yeah, but you know, but the other
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  Speaker 1: interior stuff, he's great. Yeah. I mean Brad could do
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  Speaker 1: center and he could play guard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so if you're focusing a staying in the middle,
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  Speaker 2: but now Brad at tackle, I think Brad would not
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  Speaker 2: have a very good day at tackle, but.
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  Speaker 1: He would give it. It's different, give it a go, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mean in a pinch, but it wouldn't have I don't
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  Speaker 1: think the level of play, I can't think. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's not an easy thing to come up with,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, multiple guys. Let's go I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: why it's a third round pick.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's go back to the last year's draft, Javon
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  Speaker 2: Foster in the fourth round out of Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably not going to make this team. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like I mean Luke Fortner, who they just traded,
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  Speaker 1: I mean a third round pick from a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago. And I'm look, I mean, part of the
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  Speaker 1: reason why this organization is where it's at has been
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  Speaker 1: reasons like that. Well, and then Foster wasn't up for
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  Speaker 1: really in the games last year? Was he I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you that in active If he wasn't, if he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Trent Balkey's draft pick, he wouldn't have made the active roster.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reason why he made the active roster.
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  Speaker 1: And then look, I mean, he should have made practice
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  Speaker 1: squad at best last year, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: And you can't operate a franchise like that and expect
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  Speaker 1: to get better when it's about your draft picks instead
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  Speaker 1: of making the team the best that it can be.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty ahead coming up at five o'clock Liam
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  Speaker 1: Cohen Show, we'll have the head coach. Week one, of
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  Speaker 3: You're out of a different comfort zone when you're against
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  Speaker 3: somebody else right in a different arena, you know, seeing
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  Speaker 3: different things and so maybe things that maybe can get
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  Speaker 3: let go in practice when you're just going against each other, Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna fly. Somebody else is gonna probably take
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  Speaker 3: advantage of it. So you know, that was something a
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  Speaker 3: couple good learning lessons for us in the red zone
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  Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: So it was good practice today at the Dolphins facility
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  Speaker 1: After the joint practice today, our weekly Travis Hunter update.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have the theme music tonight. That's okay. Travis
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  Speaker 1: Hunter did not work in the team periods today. William
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  Speaker 1: Cohen said after practice that, you know what, if it
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  Speaker 1: was Carolina week, he'd probably play. No reason to push
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  Speaker 1: the issue in such a competitive practice today for Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 1: and the same thing for Tyson Campbell on the defensive side.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I loved about watching Travis today is that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a superstar, right, I mean, one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest stars in the league. You know, former Heisman
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  Speaker 1: Trophy winner, probably the biggest star from the outside perspective
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  Speaker 1: looking in to the Jaguars, and you know, he's a
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  Speaker 1: guy's out there practice today and if guys had a
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  Speaker 1: towel and we're using a towel in the huddle. He
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  Speaker 1: went over there and grabbed the towel from him after
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  Speaker 1: they were done, like trying to help him out. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, look, I said, that's that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you have a guy who's humbling up
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  Speaker 2: to help his teammates out and grab their towel for
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  Speaker 2: him and take it from him, and it's like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 2: you don't feel like, you know, in other words, you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to have a superstar who always feels like
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  Speaker 2: or acts like he's.
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  Speaker 1: Better than anybody else. And that's what I love about
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  Speaker 1: about Travis is that I think he's very grounded, probably
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  Speaker 1: and it's not going to play in the game on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday against the Dolphins, so he still have all this
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  Speaker 1: time to be ready to go for Week one against Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: and I think whatever that plan is, and.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be really interesting to see
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  Speaker 2: exactly what that plan is. And we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: know what that plan is. So we get to Sunday
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  Speaker 2: at one o'clock on kickoff weekend. And the reason I
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  Speaker 2: say that is that, you know, we all have this
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  Speaker 2: expectation about what the talk was gonna be and the
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  Speaker 2: evolution of working him towards the being a true two
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  Speaker 2: way player. But will that be the case? I mean,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, we're just gonna have to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: wait and see. I mean I think that there had
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: to be you have to be able to trust it
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to do it. And because remember, at the end of
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the day, it's about winning games. It's not about making
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter a two way player. So the coaches have
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to be comfortable in the role that they're going to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: ask him to do so and we haven't seen, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and trust is a hard thing to gain. Sometimes sometimes
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: instead of trust, it's got to be based on faith,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: you know that, hey, we believe he can do this.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And so I think that that's going.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: To be one of the most interesting things about game day.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be probably the number one
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: reason that a lot of people tune into this game
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: that are from the outside, that are not Jaguar fans
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: or Carolina Panther fans that are watching this game, it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to see what he does as a as a two
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: way player, or maybe not a two way player.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he does period right, whether it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: two ways or one way or whatever way. I will
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: find out week one against Carolina for Travis Hunter. So
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: there are still there's still one game to go in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the preseason. That means there's still reps out there. They're
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: probably gotta feeling o JP. I mean, are we really
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: going to call this a game? They're keeping score, They're
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: gonna play sixty minutes. You're gonna be here calling on radio. No,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I will tell you this.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Look, they're probably gonna be a lot of guys that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: aren't gonna play from and I'm talking Miami Dolphins and Jaguars.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, when when you have a.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Practice two days prior to a game that get a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: lot of reps in that situation, are most are more
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: than likely maybe not playing well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this from this perspective, what position
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: battles are still out there that we need to see
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: on the grass on Saturday night.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, the linebacking position I think is still
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: being analyzed.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: The depth of that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's the depth and I think maybe even
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the starting role. I mean last week, all of a sudden,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: we saw Devin Lloyd start the game but then was
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: taken out for the second series, and Ventro Miller was
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: in there for a very large chunk of playing times
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and then Devin Lloyd went back in. Okay, Now, if
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd didn't go back in, I'd be like, hey,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they're just you know, they're just letting them get ready
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: for the regular season. I think that bears worth watching.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Have we figured out fifth receiver yet? You think? No,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: still out there? No.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I think that that's something that is ongoing. I think
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that that's going to be a battle that's going to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: happen in this game, and a lot of a lot
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: of that may have to do with the performance of
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: these guys on special teams, you know, because here's the question.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that Travis Hunter is a wide receiver
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: on that count of five?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so, I think that that's going
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to be an interesting watch. The ability to play special
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: teams is going to be a huge factor. I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: with that next wide receiver.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Because we had Tim Jones was that guy for the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: last few years right playing teams, and the last receiver
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: got limited offensive reps. They're rarely going five wide, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it took injuries for him to be in the lineup
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: on offense a lot. But the one guy that just
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: kind of intrigues me just because he's very willing. A
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers aren't very willing to play special teams,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean they might pay a little lip service to it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But when you turn on the film, that I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: tells you whether somebody really wants to do it or not.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Are they being physical? Are they running full speed? Are
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: they running full speed in the face of contact. Are
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: they straining to get to the ball?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And you watch some guys and it's like, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I got to do this, And there's other guys that
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you can sit there and go, oh, he wants to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: do this, And the film tells you that this film,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the film is speaking to you. And the one guy,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to be an interesting watch. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: think in this last game he's gonna probably get a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: lot of playtime because of the limited playtime that I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: expecting out of some of the starters. As Chandler Brayboy,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: he's got the size and he's got the desire to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: do it now, second time you.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Mentioned his name in the last two weeks. He's just got,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He's just got. I mean, look, JP, I mean I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: watched those guys and I watch them closely on special
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: team because the reality is that if you're the fifth
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: or the sixth wide receiver, whatever you are looking at
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: from account standpoint, tell me the impact that they're going
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to make is an actually true wide receiver.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not going to happen, okay. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: mean they've got four wide receivers that they love. If
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, if something happens to one of
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: those wide receivers, what are they going to do? Well, Okay,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: we'll just stick with the three that we've got. If
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: something happens to one of the four, and then if
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: something happens beyond that, then it's kind of an emergency situation.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, the teams are going to go with something
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: that they're very comfortable with, which they look, you got
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you got some really good tight ends, and you got
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a very deep running back room, so you may turn
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: more into those positional directions to get that need filled
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: if you had an injury at the wide receiver spot.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying is that special teams has
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: to be a big factor for that or those spots
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that are past Parker Washington.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: What about on offensive line? How deep do you go? Nine? Ten?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's ten? And who are those last couple
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: guys to fill the We're digging deep into the inside football.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm thinking ten. I mean you got you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the starters that we kind of mentioned earlier, Walker, Little
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland, Robert Hainsey, Patrick McCarry, and Toon Harrison. Now
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: we go to the next line of guys and you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: know you got Fred Johnson is six, Wyatt Milon is seven,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Joonah Manheim is eight, uh Idoga is nine, and Colvan
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Landon is ten.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I think work a couple of those guys could start
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the season in theory or would you start him on?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I are to return well? To get it well? I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: mean how bad the injuries are?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, some of those guys could start
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: there to gain you a little flexibility somewhere else. I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: think that's a possibility. The I think Javon Foster maybe
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: a guy that could go to practice squad.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I think sal Wormley is an absolute given at practice squad.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watching him play tomorrow or not
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: tomorrow on Saturday, because he's a guy that was a
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Penn State guy, was somewhat of a priority free agent.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He's been playing guard and that's kind of where he
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: played at in college.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But they have moved him to center.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get some snaps at center, and uh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: here's an opportunity for him to put some really good
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: stuff on film, you know, and maybe end up on
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: an active roster somewhere else.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, you know. That's and here's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the reality JP.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: If a guy, a guy could have could literally have stunk,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: stunk up the field all training camp long. Okay, seriously,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you could have on this roster out of the guys
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: that are playing, they could have stunk.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That could have been terrible on practice.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: If they go out and they put one hell of
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a game on film, it doesn't matter what happened in
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: all of training camp because all the other teams in
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the league aren't seeing this guy in practice. They don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: know he's been stinking it up in practice.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, they in theory might call around and ask
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and see but you see it. But you know, do
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you think that you see the practice?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, the general manager or a personnel guy the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars is going to give you the straight skinny.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean no, I mean because they're you're gonna give
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: me the opinion what's gonna benefit you. So they're not
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: gonna trust I Often they're gonna watch the film to
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: get what they believe is the truth on a player.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So every player has that's playing in this game on
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Saturday night has a great opportunity. What they did in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the past doesn't matter. If they put on some great film,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it's gonna give them a chance and an opportunity at
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: other places, and I'm talking many other places.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Thirty one other teams in the NFL.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: JP, you put good film out there, man, and then
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: somebody's gonna see.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking individually, there's a couple couple throws I missed and
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: then just a couple of miscommunications, you know, And it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: good to go against a different defense. We've been going
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: against our defense all camp, so just to see different looks,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: different disguises, to have to really play each play as
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: its own and go back to some of our base
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: rules as good for us as an offense, and kind
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: of just measuring sack, like, hey, this is where we're at.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: This is kind of what we showed today. Let's like
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: learn from it and get better. So I think that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: just an honest assessment of today. There's some stuff to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: clean up, but I thought guys competed hard, flew around.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Just got to clean up some of the details.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence after today at the Dolphins practice facility,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: after the joint practice and welcome back JP Shadrick with
• 27:02
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• 27:05
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Let's touch on the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: quarterback real quick. I think he kind of summed it
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: up there a little bit today and even more and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you can hear the whole press conference at Jaguars dot
• 27:23
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• 27:27
  Speaker 1: little bit about his struggle today. Just didn't feel there
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: were moments where he threw a couple of picks and things.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: But guess what this is really about it. I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he's not playing in the game. They're gonna have some
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: practices next week and then you know, they'll probably have
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a bonus practice going into the Week one game. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: in terms of full speed, all out practices, today was
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the last one for the quarterback. Yeah, that's.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that the progress would be a little
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: bit more, but the reality is is that there's there's.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Time to continue to make more.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Big test coming up against Carolina, and I'm glad it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: an opening day against you know, a team that's got
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: loftier expectations out of him. You know, it's good to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: start with Carolina. But at the same token, Carolina Panthers
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: are saying the exact same thing. Well, it's good that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: we're starting with that's a that's a winnable game. They're
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: not great, you know, and you know so uh, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: he's got a couple of weeks to get better and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you know too, and then and then the tests come
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and the evaluations continue, you know. I mean, uh, this
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: this year five for him, and I expect him. He
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: needs to take a big step this year, and number
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: one of those steps is staying healthy. That's nothing that's
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: ever completely in your control, but you do control some
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of that. You know, when you slide, when you choose
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to to take chances, when you choose to to make
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a strong throw in the face of sure, you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: make the decision sometimes to live to play another down.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, all of those things I think are are
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in his control, and he's got to make improvement on
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: some of the obvious stuff. You go back to the scrimmage.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: You had a red zone interception, last week, you had
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: a red zone fumble. Those things can't happen for a
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: quarterback in year five that's going to be your franchise guy.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: That stuff's got to get cleaned up.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And I think another great, great opportunity to hone his
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: game against the Miami Dolphins and and to learn a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: lot from it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Time now for the Jaguars defensive coverage of the game
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: presented by g eh A Government Employees Health Association benefits
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: for federal employees and retirees, and not necessarily the game
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: this week, but in the practices this week. Eric Armstead
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and Mason Smith back on the practice field this week.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Smith back in pads for the first time today. They've
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: been off to the side for a little while. Both
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of these guys, what did you see out of them today?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: First time out and the limited reps that I that
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I watched Eric Armstead and Mason Smith, I thought they
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: did pretty good. If the airk had one play in
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: particular that really stood out that he got a really
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: good pressure on the quarterback, which is really that's what
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you need him for. You need him to be a
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: guy to affect the passer from the inside because right now,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the only way you're going to get any kind of
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that pressure is from moving you know, somebody else down
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: inside whether that's true somebody else, but.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It'sive tackle spot they need him.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I thought Mason Smith had a real nice play against
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the run to where he stoned his guy and then
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: he made a real nice powerful tackle that was good to.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: See, you know. And I don't know what injury he had.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It's got a lower leg, his achilles, Is it a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: calf or is I don't know what it is. But
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: everything that I read and when you hear medical people
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: talk about that area, they say that that's in there
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: you got to be really really cautious with. And so
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that's probably the reason why that there has been a
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: slower amount of progress, so to speak, or at least
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: observed progress, longer runway ramp up correct because I think
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that that's one of the situations that it needs the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: time to heal properly, and if not, then you're going
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: to have a player that's going to have something nag
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: them all year long. And you hope that that doesn't
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: occur for him because he's a young player. The more
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: reps he gets, he's going to be better for it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And I really like him. I think he's got a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: great personality, he works hard, he's tough, he looks the part,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and he totally looks the part. He's a toll off
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: of the bus club member and he's.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: One of the first guys you want out, Trayvon Walker,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I want Mason Smith. Yeah, I'll take Fred Johnson. Fred
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Johnson first off the bus. You know what, he's number one,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: he's number one tackle. There's a handful of those guys.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: By the way out next to him on the bus
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and man that got the guy can eat. There's a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: reason why he's so big. He's a man that can eat.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I mean like eat all the time. It wasn't even
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: meal time and he was over there eating jaguars.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: What's he wey? You sing? Fred Johnson? Let's just sit
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: at Fred Johnson's list at three twenty six seven twenty no, no, no, no,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go ask him. I'm going to ask
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: him the next time I see him and ask him,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: what is your true weight? He'll give me an honest answer.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you think if you had
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to guess thirty five, you think he's thirty five? Dave
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: is saying three forty. Oh, that's I think that we
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: got a three forty being a guest and Joe, we
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: got a we got a forty seven one dollar by
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: all right, we're so we're all we're all right around
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: these forty seven's here. You know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I think he's he's a big man. I can tell
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: you this. He's not a biscuit within three twenty five.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get the answer to that week one. He's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a big biscuit away from three to twenty five. Yeah,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: it's back to the defensive line quickly. Earlier this week,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Jaguars made a trade Colin Saunder like it brought in
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: from the Saints. They sent the offensive linemen to the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Saints right after the game. Colin Saunder says he's at
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: home playing Fortnite and gets a phone call after the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: game and said, you mean I'm going to the team
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that we just played tonight? Yeah, you are. And so
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he's coming to this defensive line six foot three, twenty
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: four Yeah, and a veteran player has two Super Bowl rings. Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people look at that and say, well,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: you know that the Jaguars have injuries to the defensive
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: tackles with Eric Harmstead and Mason Smith. That's why they
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: went out and got Colin Saunders. No, that's not right,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and that's totally incorrect. Colin Saunders plays the one technique
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he plays where Devon Hamilton and Jordan Jefferson play. Okay,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: he's one of those big space heaters, run pluggers, whatever
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you want to call him. And to be honest, I
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: understand why the trade was made. Number one, You've got
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a very talented rookie that's playing center in Manheim, who
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: has flexibility at playing guard spots as well and playing
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: them better than Fortner Portner. Give him credit. And I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: got to say this, Fortner got better this year.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: He did. He got better.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And I know that he has been kind of a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: weak spot here for the Jaguars in the past and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit disappointing, a lot disappointing at times.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: But give him credit. He got better.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He kept working hard even through getting benched and everything else.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And so I think that's a good acquisition for both teams.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: The Saints needed a center, they had a significant injury
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: for their starter, Luke Fortner. Gives him a guy that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: got starts under his belt, can start right away, very
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: smart guy.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Or depth whatever they need him to do. Yeah, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: then the Jaguars get a defensive tackle that had a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: spot that they need because you know, Jordan Jeffer right now,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't have him making his team. His
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: performance hasn't shown me that he should make this team.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And Devon Hambleton just been kind of okay, But I mean,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: how many nose tackles do you really need? Right? I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: mean tops? I mean tops? You know, so you just
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: traded for Saunders. He's not going anywhere, and Hambleton's got
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a big number. He's probably not going anywhere. No, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: don't see him going anywhere, you know, but he's got
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to get better. Okay. Who you're starting probably Devon to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: start the year, and then you know what we go
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: from there because he just got here. I mean yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean look, I mean JP rocket sciences,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean okay, okay, and playing defensive line. Don't get confused.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Here's a question, all right, they never get confused amongst
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: each other. This conversation with somebody in the building the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: other day, what are the positions that you can make
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: an acquisition this late or later in training camp and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: be comfortable throwing him out on the field immediately anywhere
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I would love to sit here
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and saying the praises of the intelligence level needed to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: play defensive line. I would love nothing better, but I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: would be lying, it's not that hard. It's not that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: hard at all. Linebacker a little different.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: You know, you got calls, you got adjustments, you got
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to play the run, you have a gap responsibility events pass,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and you've got a pass responsibility, you know, and you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: got different drop combinations based on route combinations.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a totally different world. An offensive line
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: is the same way. I mean, you got calls and checks,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and you're protecting those valuable asset on the team, the quarterback. No,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to screw that up, no doubt, you know.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: But for somebody that you can sign like tomorrow and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: then play the day after. Okay, defensive line, defensive tackle
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: would be You're probably right. The nose tackle would probably
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: be right at the top of the list because it's
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a two down, two down position.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell him that to his face.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Well why not. I mean he knows that. I mean
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he's aware. I mean, I mean defensive linean No, okay,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not that hard.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, now, Look, if you're playing in a different
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator's defense. Okay, let's say a Brian Floor's defense,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: things might get a little bit.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: More complicate because you're dropping back.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean a nose tackle
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: on Pete Carroll's defense. Okay, going back to when when
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was was my defensive coordinator from an head
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: coach from that would have been nineteen ninety all the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: way to nineteen ninety four, I mean, we had nose
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: tackles dropping in the coverage and they had to know
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: which direction to go.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: But I mean, JP it was either left or right. Well,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: interception against the Chiefs last year, Yeah, I fires fire zone,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: dropped the nose.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you have a lot of times
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you have teams that will have a fire zone. Okay,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and the fire zone is that you're playing zone. You're
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: giving the impression that you're blitzing, but you're really not.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: You're just sending an extra blitzer. But it's really not
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: an extra blitzer because you're dropping. You know how the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: fans always complain.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Josh Haines, Allen and Trayvon are dropping
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: in the coverage. What are we doing? Why are we
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: doing that? That's not what they do best.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're doing that to mix it up,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and a lot of teams instead of dropping the ends
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: will actually choose to drop the nose tackles. Now, look,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you know the the the the the rotundness of your
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: nose tackles.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: What'd you point at, mell? I'm just saying the rotundness
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: of the nose tackles belly, not you. I'm not saying
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you all your time, just pointing into the mid section. Okay.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: The you know, the ability of the nose tackle to
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: be an athlete in space has a lot to do
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know. So am I going to ask Colin Saunders?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you. I mean you saw him,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: are you are you going to ask him to drop
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: back in his own coverage? I mean he would do
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: whatever I think it is necessary. I mean, you know
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'd be a little hesitant to do that. I bet
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you he can move a little bit better than you think. Yeah, no,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I you've seen this interception return list. I'm no, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: mean to go check it out. I'll have to get
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: sex sec to get get him to call out he's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: done like backflips in the and all this stuff. Hey,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: come on, yeah for really, so really I don't want
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: him to do it too well, I got it on video.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's on video. I gotta see that. Is
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that on X But he got that, we'll look for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it our crack. He's done backflips. We'll look at this.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Get out of town. Let's come back in a moment. Oh,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I totally drop him in the coverage. If he's doing backflips,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: let's go, man. We don't need him to do backflips.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: In numbers he wearing, by the way, he is wearing
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: sixty eight. All right, we'll see where that ends up,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you know, veteran guy. He's wearing fifty before. That's currently
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: held by a rookie. So we'll see what happened injury report.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Final thoughts. Then at five o'clock it's the Liam Cohen Show.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: We'll have James Gladstone and Tony Boselli and drop dropping.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'm dropping that guy. I just saw him doing backflips
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. Back in the moment. It's Jaguars happy.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: It was just more like do we want him now
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: or potentially not? In you know, Carolina, Like it was
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: more just being smart about you know the next few
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: weeks because the ultimate goal is Carolina. So that's the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: thing that's that top of mine right now. And for him,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: could he have probably gone? I think so, Like if
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: this was Carolina, would you have probably played? Yeah, So
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: we're moving in the right direction.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, after practice today in Miami
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Gardens outside hard Rock Stadium at the Dolphins facility. Welcome back.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour Hyundai Studios on the road this
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: week on attent to Nexcel ninety two point five FM,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Flagman on the Jaguars Happy Hour. Time now for the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: injury report present by uf Health, the proud healthcare partner
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Liam Coleen there was talking about
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, but as he said, yeah, if it's a
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: game week, he's going. I didn't want to put him
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in the team work today. Cornerback Tyson Campbell was in
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a red jersey Wednesday did not participate in team activities
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Thursday today. Similar to the decision regarding Hunter, and Campbell
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: could have also played if it was a regular season
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: game out of practice today. Rookie wide receiver Eli pancoll A.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Rookie linebacker Jalen Mcloud's been out for a while with
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: a lower body issue. You mentioned Wyatt Milem the offensive
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: lineman with a lower body issue. Reserve offensive lineman Cole
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Van Landon has been out all of training camp with
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a shoulder issue. Caleb brand saw the same lower body issue,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and cornerback Monterrek Brown still with a lower leg issue.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: That's the injury report.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be interesting as it relates
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: to a couple of those guys there in roster spots.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You know, Caleb Bransall, rookie right safety, a higher pick.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The right expectation is you know that he's going to
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: make it, and I don't expect anything different, but you know, you,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: as a coach, I think, and as a decision maker,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you would like to have a little bit of.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: What's the right word, a little bit of proof, you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit of trust, a reason to have trust.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Jalen McLeod, I mean typically a six round pick is
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: not a given h Again with him, you'd like to
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of intel, a little bit of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: film to look at and go, yeah, that that's the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: guy that we expected to pick, you know, So I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: think those things are are all going to be very
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: interesting when it comes down to the to the final
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: roster cuts, because I mean, the whole purpose is is
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to be able to keep all of the valuable guys
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that you want. And so hang on, we'll see where
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: it goes. Yeah, and just real quick, Jaalen McLeod's playing
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a position that's very interesting. Okay, you're talking about a
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Sam player. Okay, Sam linebacker. We're also talking about a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: player that can give you some pass rushability like a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: guard deck, right, and so are you gonna, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: find it and keep a roster spot for him, because
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you know, right now, if the Sam guard deck is
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: your expected starter. In my opinion, you brought him in
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: as a free agent for a reason.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Eight's year player, been at it for a long time,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: crafted his own career as an undrafted player. Halo on
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: field proof that he can do it, and they say
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: his mind is one of the best. So we talked
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to him in pre game last week. He's fantastic conversation.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Gets it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Well, then you got your Sirubdullah, who, oh, by the way,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: can run like a deer. I mean he can fly
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and he is a really good special teams player.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: So that position, that SAM linebacking position, because I put
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: your Syrubdullah, Dennis Gardeck, and Jayla McLeod the rookie. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: put them all at that position, and most teams because
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: it's a two down or two it's a two linebacker
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: league for the most part. Now because most teams are
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: playing nickel. You know, the SAM is not a position
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that you go, oh.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna keep three. You know, it's a position
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna go, well, we're gonna keep two one
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and a half.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Or one and a half and one that can play,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: one that can play the outside, and then one that
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: can play outside and inside. Now, I've never seen you,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Sir Abdulah cross trainer get reps as a MIC or
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a SAM.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Same thing. Jaylen McLeod, the rookie, I haven't seen him crossing. Now.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Can guard deck do that? I mean, I don't know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: So that's gonna be really interesting to watch from that standpoint.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead to Saturday night Jaguars Dolphins,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Stadium, South Florida, Miami Gardens pre season Week three.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: What do you expect run the ball, run the ball,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: just run it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, let's you know, get the clock going
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But now, I mean there are some
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: guys I think that are are are going to be
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: fun to watch. I mean, we're talking about those positions
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars wide receivers group. And and by the way,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they they had a little bit of attrition because of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: injury with Joshua Asiphiz, who many people were singing his
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: praises early in camp and and I thought he had
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: faded of late and they waved him injured, which will
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: revert to the injured reserve list if nobody claims him,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: you know, So that position I think is now I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: think there's there's a spot up for grabs when it
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: comes to that special team spot.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Who or are they on the team from us? I mean,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that's a that's another great question, JP, because you bring
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: up a point and that not just it's not just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: specific to that position in that one roster spot that
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, and that these guys are competing not
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: only with the guys that are in teel, but they're
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: also competing with guys that are around the league. Because
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: all those.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Guys that the Jaguars liked may be in the draft
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: or have had experience with at other places. Let's say
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Liam knows some guys from Tampa, you know, Campanelli knows
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: some guys from Green Bay. And let's say there's some
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: something that come available that's at a position that they
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: feel like they can improve. Okay, they may bring them in,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's the familiarity of where coaches have
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: been at and so they have trust with certain guys
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: at other places, and if they become available, those guys
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: are competing with the ones that are inteel.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Right Now, that's fascinating, right to think about that. So
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you get a look at the connections of coordinators and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: certain coaches in the past of guys that have come free. Yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, for example, Nick Mullins, where'd
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he come from? Absolutely? Yeah, Minnesota? Well who came from Minnesota?
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: See Grant new Dinsky, the offensive coordinator, right, I mean,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: So I mean just that's an example. I mean, that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: might be a little bit of a you know, a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: layup example, but I mean.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: There are examples like that across the NFL. You can't
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: get your hands on all the guys you want in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the off season from your previous stops. So I mean,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at Robert Hamsey.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: You think you think Hansey was brought in with no
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: knowledge of him. Liam Cone knew him very well. And
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: we coming into a new spot as a first time
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: head coach, you want to bring your culture, why not
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: bring a guy that you believe is a guy that
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: can help carry your culture to that.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: New locker room. So there's another example. We are closing
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: in on the Liam Cohen Show coming up in a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: couple of minutes on the Jaguars Radio Network. We'll have
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: James Gladstone and Tony Basselli and you know what tonight
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is the night we're gonna get answers out of these guys. Well,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to us for weeks on end.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm looking forward to asking? Uh, there
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: was some scrums today on the field. The first one
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: started by the way Dorian Singer or a rookie wide
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: receiver and Jack Jones, who Jack Jones might be still
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit sore from the matchup against the Detroit
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Lions and I'm aman Ross Saint Brown, which by all purposes,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions released a video and Amon Ra was wearing
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: them out, and Jack Jones might be a little salty
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: because all that went out and he had to respond
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: to it yesterday, okay, And so he gets in a
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: fight one of the Jaguars rookies today, and then there
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: was another one was pretty big, and I think Bo
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and Gladstone got involved. Now I don't know if they
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: threw any punches or not, but I want to find
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: out if they did.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Spreading rumors you already are. I can't wait to hear
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: this coming up. And about a minute and a half
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: or so, No, there was another one that was involved
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars running backs, and then it spilled over into
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: another situation and rolled into the open garage door of
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the practice, kind of like anwl JP. It was a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: full out punches throwing, and then after that it seemed
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: like everything for the most part, they got through the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: rest of practice. Yeah, yeah, I mean, little salty today,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the last week of preseason. Now, everybody's a little salt,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: little testy, yeah, oh yeah, even in here Jaguars Radio
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a little testy today. Well, I mean Joe's always testing. Yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Reebert can be in a mood sometimes you know, yeah,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: but Joe's always salty, Tyler's even keeling all the time.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Tyler's like money every day, every single day. We're back
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: in a moment. Tony Passelli, James Gladstone expected to join
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: us for the Liam Cohen Show that's coming up next.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.