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Top 5 Episodes of 2025 (Feat. Revived Thoughts) · Martyrs And Missionaries

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  [SPEAKER_04]: Revived thoughts is a production of Revived Studios.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Troy, Angel, and Elise.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you were listening to Revive Thoughts and Martyrs and Missionaries crossover into the year slash beginning of a new year episode celebration.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: End of the year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's our longest title for free cat.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We need a jingle, too.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Joel will put you on that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Here's what happens to me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I get bought out like Mariah Carey once a year for you guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We have you on more, but you know, like Mariah Carey, you only come on once a year to sing one hit.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's true.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: If I had the opportunity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Really, it's the other way around.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We are you're allowing us to grace your feed with our presence.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I like this.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm sure the revised thoughts people hear about, you know, Mars missionaries pretty regularly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm shouting you out all the time like, you know, but for the Mars missionaries crowd, do they hear the revived thoughts on this?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do they know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you talk about it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do they know about it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The spirit of our live thoughts is what we told them about us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and for those who don't know, or who may be our new to the studio or whatever, at least tonight, at least a host of Martyrs and Missionaries, and I'm host of Revival Thoughts, we are married.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're recording this from our studio in the same room together, and Joel and I, we run Revival Thoughts together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Joel was also a married, but not to give them both us, he's married, and he's in the early side of the world right now in Kansas City.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay, thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was for the, that was, sorry, that was for the three of us and with that are here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you laugh, but actually, that's probably an audience there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you had kind of revived that to prove to you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who liked him, the history?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In history, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That might, that might.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know that wouldn't join that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Especially is we're coming out of the Christmas season when people are adding unnecessary lyrics to all the Christmas songs I think a lot of us would like to get back to the way that they were written okay and stop putting woe woes and random Yeah, woes and random things
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a crystal one think yeah, I know they do it man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what let's get let's come on track.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So every here we put out a top five episodes of our shows that this not these are not the best have they're a great up the whole years full of good episodes, but we just try to we know there are a lot of new listeners to come in and so we use this this is kind of our opportunity to say like, hey, check out these five get started here if you're not sure where to go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many people use it, but I do know that these usually do
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to get around.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, Joel and I try to see if we have the same five episodes and at least has her own five episodes that she tells us about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how we go ahead and get started.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And in her mix, we also have been doing a church history trivia show.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So in between each episode, we kind of throw a question at the group and you audience can listen and try to answer these if you know them as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Typically, every year I have done the Church of St. Trivia and I have pulled history trivia from our different episodes and seen how we did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was pretty good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Usually pretty tough battle.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Last year, Joel said he wanted to run it and I remembered this probably to my own regret and Astral do still want to run it and he said he did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very nervous.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited about this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have never felt the desire to cheat more.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like a chat GPT or something here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to I just want to get out get it out of there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm nervous.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm going to do well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be it'll be bad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I said give me those questions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask the questions on this episode here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to control the the narrative from my own perspective.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a safe place to be.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't you win the last year's?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He won two years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was at one last year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have no right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Two years ago you won last year, I won.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you won last year and I think I know Joel, I think one one year before last.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's been a battle, you know, it could be any church history podcasters game, except for Joel's because he's not playing out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, with that said, Joel, do you want to hit it with that first question?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's break the ice out of the room.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's introduce.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so these vary in difficultness and also like obviously the Martin Luther Martin Luther Martin Luther Martin Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther Luther
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  [SPEAKER_00]: my overlap in both of your wheelhouses, but not every question is going to, but let's let's let's start off with this one, which theological controversy, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this was a debate, this was a people which theological controversy prompted the Council of NICIA and centered on the nature of Christ's divinity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, erianism, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The erius dealing with the idea that Jesus was created.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was erism, indeed.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I was, okay, what happened?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know what it was.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What happened was I couldn't remember what the he meode Vosus thing is versus the hetero Vosus.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what it was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This was going really deep there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And like, oh, I just couldn't remember in the Greek Charlie.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: My mother tongue, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, I'm going to say that if I miss one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to remember in Greek again, my dad.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it wasn't a Latin.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was great.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I say would be.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good way to cover it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Off to a good start.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good start.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Shall we roll through?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So mine are in no particular order.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just have like a five.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Five that I liked.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Five that I liked.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Feel free to rearrange them and put them in whatever order you want.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You want me to do that?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You want me to start it off?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, start it off.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, start it off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll go do at least then me just because that way we get Murray's missionaries sandwiched between us do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to throw out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked William Scott's aches gold episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We did revive thoughts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the one where it was in San Francisco and there was during the gold rush and there were like pirates or there wasn't a pirate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There was abandoned ships.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a cool episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a cool sermon.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a cool back story.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Recommended if you're looking for a place to start or you miss some this year and you want to go back.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Check out Econ's Gold by William Anderson's got that I will say it's on my list as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're jumping there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, at least go ahead.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so I have a whopping seven episodes to choose from.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So it makes it very difficult and actually one of them is a two-partners.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, and like, so now I actually had, yeah, I really had to leave somebody out, which I kind of feel bad about, but I, you know, that's the nature of the game.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So the, the one I'm going to go with first is the history of the Mongols, history of Christianity, two of the Mongols.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's what it's titled,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And that one was really fun because actually it was, um, I don't remember how I wanted to start doing it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember if it was like maybe a class I was taking or something where I kept hitting on all these little medieval parts and I was like, Oh, but the Mongols kind of kept coming in to like random parts of the story.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, oh, I kind of wonder.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: right because they interactions with like these different like priests or different like kings and christian kings knows like i wonder what that like was there anything there and so it was it was really fun so i got to like look at all these different old documents and kind of weave them together and figure out sadly the history of christian to the mongles is um a bittersweet one in the last but uh it was really kind of a fascinating historical rabbit true
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say to the audience too, if you haven't listened to that episode if you don't know, I don't want to listen to this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You definitely should very interesting 100 or 200 year history there, and at least got really in the weeds, she practically learned Mongolian, I mean, it was intense, the level of research she was doing, so probably the most researched episode on Mongolia's Christian history that you'll find anywhere else, I definitely would agree with that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, Joel, I'm with you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm William Anderson Scott.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That is that was in my top five as well So I'm gonna put that out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Akin's gold.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was so excited to get that episode out I found the sermon about a year ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like this guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's preaching the gold miners about how gold as evil It was just a fascinating episode and I couldn't wait to get it out there I took a long time to get it to the right speaker and then eventually get it So definitely go check it out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad and we heard we heard people say like this was a really cool episode
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, there we go, all of us have our first pick, which means we're ready for another round of Churches, your trivia.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Churches, where are you going to say something at least?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I'm ready.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You're indicating you're ready, and it's okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, question number two, who was the English Theologian, the Tran, or, I gotta think of what qualifiers I'm going to put into this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to start, I'm going to start easy, and then if we need, or start hard, and then give
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  [SPEAKER_00]: died in 1536.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Anything.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Beep, is it?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I'm 10, though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow, at least out of the gate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, really?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was 10, Dale.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say he was martyr.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a Bible translator.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He translated the English.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But you didn't need any of that stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You were all right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was pulling up the downloads on this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He first something I'll say.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I totally wasn't made into the last time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The answer was like, wait, I was supposed to talk right now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's his excuse.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In the Greek.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was saying it was name in the Greek.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it was.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that looks like one of one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's impressive.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I would have gotten there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's let's throw another top episode here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Troy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you remember.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're not.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a lifetime ago.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the audience can hear my two-year-old daughter in the background.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Very sad about something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But when you're two.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: She's nice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It could be anything, maybe an orange slice was a slightly different size than the other orange slice, or perhaps she wanted to pay a kitchen pot to her room and her mother wouldn't let her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of things that could cost tears in the two-year-old, but they have so much of module.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Troy, a bit ago, we did a Q&A episode where we, we solicited questions from the audience to ask us anything they want, even then we spent a time going through a lot of not even all of them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of questions, and that was a ton of fun.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I really enjoyed that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know it doesn't have to do anything to do with church history, but I love a good Q&A episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I had a lot of fun getting to know our listeners a little bit better and having them ask us,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Questions related church history question related to the behind the scenes of the podcast really any questions at all It was a lot of fun You should check it out if you haven't heard it yet and maybe 2026 we should do another or something like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know It's funny.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking this week.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to do that again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was I was I I enjoyed it as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We got great quite.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we had
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  [SPEAKER_01]: 15 or so questions that were good for the show to come in and I think we could do it again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was excited about so I agreed It was a lot of fun.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get let's get more of those in the future and try to get another one on the books because I think they're good for us And I liked it too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice good episode At least what he got
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Alright, my second one, or I guess my, number four, is the history of Christianity in Korea.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And that was also really interesting because I didn't know hardly anything about Korea before, like, obviously, the Korean War.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And so figuring out, like, because I had this whole isolationist period that I went through from, like, the 1600s to, like, the 1870s or whatever, and then you had, like,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: There was this whole like the general Sherman incident where the Koreans like burned the ship that was trying to trade with them and then all these American sailors died and then you have like And so it's really interesting it was like the opening up of Korea and then like kind of what happened to them pre annexation by Japan post annexation kind of went through some of the What would you call it the Like North Korea's kind of like a
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  [SPEAKER_04]: politics, histories kind of thing, and then up until kind of like modern day.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So it was a lot of fun.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I learned quite a lot about it, and I thought I thought it was pretty fascinating.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great episode.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely recommend it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned a lot about too, which has been, I mean, we've been to South Korea twice, but I just, the history of it has kind of always been shrouded.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the history of a country and then there's like the Christian history of it as well.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you know that North Korea or at least Pyongyang was considered to be the Jerusalem of the East up into like, you know, it became North Korea.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: They had like a massive revival a few years before the annexation.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just really sad.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, quite sad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So tons of good stuff like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know the history of Christianity and Korea, just like the history of Christianity, Mongolia, but the history of Christianity in Korea is a little more recent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're somebody who has a bias against the older sources, this one is much more, I mean, we know people who have family from that era that we're at, at least what's talking about.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's yeah, much more recent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's much more recent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: For me, my next one, I'm gonna go, I love the premiere episode.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it probably would be on my top five, Joel, but I'm gonna change it up on you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We had a sermon, Caprion, sermon during a plague.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I really loved that sermon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This guy is giving a sermon during a plague, basically telling people don't worry about death, it's not a big deal.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But like his people are so,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: different from you and I as Christians that their biggest concern was the Roman the Roman Empire was persecuting Christians blaming the plague on Christians lack of faithfulness to the pagan gods and many of the people in the audience weren't killed by that and he was like I know your bummed that you didn't get to die for Jesus but God knows you wanted to and so your hearts were willing don't let it get you down that you didn't get to die for Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, can you imagine a church pastor preaching that today, being like, I know you wanted to get killed for Jesus, I know you're bummed out and didn't get to happen, but God knew you were open to it, and that's pretty cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that is just such a different perspective, and I think very much in a lot of ways very convicting perspective, kind of puts you in your mind's view that you're not quite as strong as some of those old timers in the faith, that's for sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's trying.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna roll in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Trim your number three.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This one's an easy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a low ball.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is an easy peasy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I didn't do this one first to get this one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I might have a better chance of getting this one to throw in my lemon better chance.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: William Carey, William Carey often called the father of missions to which country did he travel?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I said it first.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said it first.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think I heard Troy's voice eat out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's louder.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's louder than me.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go to the judges.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's like a micro a second.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Roll the day something there.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Playback.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be fair.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Neither of us actually let you finish the question.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you could have said what country you could visit on the way, you're on the way to the India.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so all the draw, we just was for in the form of a question, what is India?
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Where is it on a map?
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, is there another one we could do?
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, he just had that.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said this.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got five questions here.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got five episodes from us.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Really got a rash in these guys.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is in the form of an essay, right?
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Actually speaking of William Kerry.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to jump on over to Mars and mystery missionary land.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know this will, I'm just gonna wrap with one of your releases, but you're too far to let him carry.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm always down to, here's someone talk about William Kerry.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's always delightful.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's always a net positive experience.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so whenever given the ability or the option, go check out William Kerry information in a Lisa's Martyrs and Missionary podcast has a great two-parter going through his stuff, going through his life.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Joe.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's sweet.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would agree.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I think I think William Carey is pretty cool.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we could agree that William Carey.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Father of bother missions at all, or the other time.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have that?
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it wasn't too bad.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so actually that leads at least your episode, your episode, your recommended was probably going to be, was that your official recommendation there?
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to say, what is the final slide?
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is, is go listen to the will here.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because, okay, so I was going to say it was one of the certain, as sermons I recommend.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't sure if I was going to put this in my top five, but it fits well in this moment.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was Andrew Fuller's sermon walking in faith, which was the sermon he kind of came up with in games.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: that helped lead to the missionary society that sent William Carey.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to kind of create a bow here and tie it all together.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that was one of the first sermons we did this year really good sermons guide really well.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you go through the Revive Lab, you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab and you go through the Revive Lab
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that was that was why I was trying to figure out Joel if we were all gonna do William Carey because I'd be a good time to bring that sermon up.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: See, I have William Carey higher up my list, so.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: But.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Angel Fuller's not quite making top three.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, top three was strong.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, you that like mentor to the father of modernism.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really list.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of great guys over here, okay?
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did we tell you about Williams, Aiken's goal?
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Pirates, sounds nice.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was last year.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, no, he's just a pirate's.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, the pirate's was last year.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Was that caught in May, though?
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was caught in May.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good one.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or May was two years ago.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was, that was a great one.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is it my turn?
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it my turn?
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We could have all gone, but.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it?
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I see.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying we all went through material that could have been a topic for us all, but if you have other stuff talking about by all means.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I should go in the weird when you give William Carey in the next round.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just talked about so much now.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's great.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, he's my number two, but I'll move number three for you guys.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just better with the flow.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so William Carey, yes, super cool guy.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know a lot about William Carey.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I knew that obviously, you know, he's famous guy, inspired a lot of people, but it wasn't until, you know, going through camera watch book, it was I read for this one.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wish I could give it a, give it a recommend, but I don't remember.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was good, whatever it was.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, it goes into, oh, because I read two different books.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because one of them was on kind of like his life with his first wife Dorothy, and kind of that whole sad song, right, with his first wife who goes crazy, and has a lot of issues.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: and then another one that I read, I can't remember, but anyway, super fast and because even though he's like, you know, it's an amazing guy for missions and did so many things like ending widow burning and stuff like that.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, the only time he ever missed a church service was when they officially outlawed widow burning and he like had to translate it.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so he was like, this is, this is worthy of missing a church service and it runs off and translate that.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: So super cool.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, he was by no means a perfect man, but, um,
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if we're gonna do, I will say, you're listening at home, you're trying to build your podcast feed because whatever it is, new year, maybe you're doing new stuff.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're fuller, then go listen to the life of William Carey.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then go down and go down a few years back and listen to at least this episode, Felix Carey.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because you hear the selling of William Carey, which is kind of a tragedy story, but as a very interesting kind of wrap up to the Carey story line.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You could also do, if you wanted to, you could even do it at an Iron Dutton because technically like they were, there was a whole full connection there with India as well.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so then you could just get the point.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they were in India, but there's like, yeah, there's a whole like connection to all these guys that kind of enter.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We, which is one of the fun things about doing these church history podcasts, is being like, wait, this guy knew this guy who knew this guy.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, they're all connected.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're all, they're all, they're all mixed up with this guy.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's funny about it, though, is that when you're reading through these super old accounts, they'll just mention it as though like everybody knows this.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like, you see, you want to hear more information.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I hear, um, what's that guy's name, Guinness?
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, all people in like China, I can't remember where we went.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine Guinness?
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I can't remember because they weren't specific.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was reading so I'm like story Oh, I think it was dickillist.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was reading like you know his his account He was mentioning Guinness and I was just like that would be good to know if I was probably Dr. probably Henry guy and Guinness But there was another Guinness family and then we had Dr. Oz Guinness who's very famous speaker who came on and Introduced our audience to his family a few years back really cool guy So I mean, yeah, it's it is wild how many how much they interact with each other.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Joel And it's with the next church history trivia though because I mean
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got a bunch of church history nerds in the room.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: We could go on for a while.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: George Mueller, okay?
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: The best note for caring for thousands of orphans.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: What city did he set up to happen?
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my word, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: New Britain it's Britain I know this because Boston it pops up all the time Bellers What I'm just coming out of being able to hope in that something sticks here.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we've been all the honest Okay guys my my British cities geography is not my strong point Birmingham we've gotten Britain.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: We've got not Britain, but like what is all my word?
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did it build me him shy or war or is it was the second letter?
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: What is the second letter?
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: What but Bristol Bristol oh my word That's actually annoying
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you go to Revive.com there's a map that has George Reeler and Bristol and I have all of these guys I tell you know I'm not cheating because I could have gone to my own website's map and looked it up real quick And what I've known that information just like that and you listen or can know that information A future potty trickiest you trivia moments Don't get it on that guard like us Slightly pull out your phone and use the map to get the answer correct
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: See the thing, George Miller didn't take care of all those orphans, just for us to forget what's sitting in the house.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he went from where did William carry the missionary to India to name the zip code of George Miller.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one, Joel.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a ramp of the Chinese to they have.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really that one, that curve went really up, my man.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But but at the same time, you guys were pretty close to actually having it, so I feel like it was an adequate difficulty level I do apologize to our British listeners, but anything outside of London is all London to me and I do need to do better But it's I mean, there's like soft look but even I know I know pronounce any of it correctly
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, that's okay.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was that one episode, Joel.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember like two years ago when we had to go through like a Welsh guy and there was that really long sitting name that you and I could not even remotely pronounce it was like could never do remember to I mean that's on every other episode Even if said we recorded today there was a couple though, so I was like yeah, that was a quite there there
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, you know, listeners, if it sounds like we're being vague, sometimes about the specific locations of people it is possible that I have decided just to cut it because it is too difficult to figure out how to pronounce and I'm just being fortunate there.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have it a lot, but occasionally there, there becomes a point in which we'll just, we'll just edit out a long name and I learned more general about those.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned recently that we didn't entire apps, we don't, you know what, I'll, we, we, we've mentioned a place in France many times.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Leone.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Leone, yeah.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've been calling it Lions because it's spelled, what, oh, L, I don't do it.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I told it.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are also very, very American, which is, I mean, most of the conjecture actor, but hey, I live overseas.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've learned to say something, but you're still a very American.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree completely.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am definitely from American.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, like, it doesn't really do me a lot of good in the how to pronounce something with Indonesian dialect when I'm reading European.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it makes it worse.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it actually goes in the opposite way.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because then you know, what's the vowel sound for?
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was pronouncing it in the Indonesian.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can't have it.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can't have it.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my bad guys.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, you can kind of see maybe a little trend here, but we also had a George Mueller episode this year, and so George Mueller fresh on the mind, that's my slot for this one here.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did a sermon called How to Live a Happy Life, and you know anytime there's a Mueller out there, I know it's going to be a good episode, and I know it's going to be a good sermon.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: everything I've ever heard from George Mueller.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they're always they're always incredibly convicting and encouraging.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So check out a George Mueller episode from this past year if you haven't heard it.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Even his like portrait, you know when you're like looking at pictures of old people and they're like, you know, it looks like I'd want to hang out that guy.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So happy.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a chill dude.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got that smile that smile that could sue anybody.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it doesn't matter where you're, where you're coming from.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not that subtle smile.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna tell you story that's gonna make it happy.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, George really.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: He actually we've sent to a few different missionaries.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: He goes well because he gives a lot to missions.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which is crazy, because he never asked for money.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was feeding all these orphans.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember reading the Hudson Taylor autobiography journal and just in the middle of it, he's like, I got a donation from George Meeler, right?
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I needed it, I'm like, what is that guy doing, giving you money?
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't imagine it.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really can't.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's so interesting, that's fun.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, at least you're up.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, well now that we've did it a switch route with my numbers here.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Helen Rosevere, isn't it?
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you thought she was better than William Carey?
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, so what?
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I did it.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: But Helen Rosevere, she's a medical missionary to the Congo.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, she died like not that long ago.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Earlier than when I usually pick guys that have, they've been dead for a while.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: She actually, I think, died in 2016 or something like that.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is pretty recent.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is pretty recent.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: But people kept being like, oh, you should
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and she's really cool.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: The thing is them.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: with her story, is that she's in the Congo when it's really, really tumultuous.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so, and she has kind of like a mixed bag ministry because it's nice, really hard to do missions.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when you've got civil war and a people and all that stuff, she actually becomes kind of a, I don't know, POW is kind of kind of what she was.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: She was, she was, she was a person here.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And she just seems like this person, she actually was really kind of hard on herself where she would have like, she would think she was kind of a bitter person or just not as,
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: like Grace as she could be, I don't know that she'd be the easiest person to go along with, but it was kind of like refreshing to read her story because when you go back, like, there's a certain area in missions where like, you know, they're not writing to themselves, or like somebody else who really, really like admires them, is writing it.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so you don't get that, like, raw edge to it.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you get, you know, everything they did was amazing, and that's really cool.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because obviously, they...
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: They do lot of cool things, but with her story because she's telling it or it's much more like raw, and so that was kind of like engaging.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You really get her thoughts, even though I do think she was too hard on herself.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: But, um,
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, super cool, super cool lady.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I check that out if you haven't heard of her before.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great episode.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like I said that with every episode you do, but I like all your episodes.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: At least has me proofless and make sure everything sounds good.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make sure she doesn't like cough or something in the middle of all.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I've listened to every single episode as soon as they come up before they're officially out, whatever you want to say it to.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting to the final two for us, and it's really hard because like, these are some of the greatest, you know, past your features of all time, Andrew Murray, Thomas, Kempis, Augustine, you know, Athenatius, how do you say, like, ah, but of all those guys, these two.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I do want to emphasize that when I'm picking episodes, I'm just picking episodes that I, that's to doubt to me that had more of an impact on me.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's certainly not necessarily like these episodes are truly the best because I mean, you can't really pick between any of these guys are amazing.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also I do want to think, um, I want to think our speakers who do these episodes too, because I always feel bad when we do the, we pick these top five because we have great speakers who speak a lot of sermons for us.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some people will do repeat episodes for us every year.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want them to think like, oh, I'm picking it based on like, speech or something like that either.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I do hope that they, every single speaker is doing amazing work.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm kind of doing a tie episode, a little bit of a tie here between a couple, which I always cheat always do this, but I don't, I really don't high pick it out.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love the George Wifield Fairwell, so I remember when he gave it, he was saying goodbye to his church, really heartwarming, moving one.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the two that I'm kind of tying out here, the Jan Killing Truth Over Unity, I really enjoyed that episode.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd never heard of the Wendish people.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this group of people that like moved over to Texas and left the middle of your because they wanted to say true to the faith We're really in my opinion aspiring and then there's this fragment episode Hippelite is just a fragment of a sermon on heaven But it was really cool because it was hard to get together just a little thing a little remnant left of this guy that we had But it tells us thoughts on heaven and we had a whole bunch of people reach out to us and was like maybe
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that hip-alightest sermon, even though it was only like seven pages of a fragment.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it was just kind of a cool thought on like how even just a little bit of you left over, but if it's forgot, it can have an impact on people.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thousands of years later.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's roll into our last question.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, which, you got a trivia?
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's about to antagonize the problem.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was the exact island coordinates?
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, which missionary to Burma died in 1850?
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll give more qualifiers if no one says that.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm done, Justin.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys are good.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think at least we were saying it first.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to say it before you finished the question that was on me.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, at least you win.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had more qualifier than that.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did it.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did a translation work.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to translate the Bible and Burmese.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you guys see, I was trying to let you finish.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: At least at least didn't have any time.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are those that?
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, doesn't that mean at least one?
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: She did congratulations on you.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, is this, is this my two year, is this a streak now?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go, you win.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think we all, the thing is at least we'll feel like a winner, but I also know my wife well and she'll be kicking herself that she didn't say Bristol.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be that'll be weighing over the entire, that's true.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what a fool you said, Birmingham.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So hey, that's, I was a well thought battle.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am curious, listener, feel free, right in.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell us, did you do well on the church history of trivia challenge?
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you, were you yelling Bristol at the microphone?
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you just say Bristol?
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you say more and more?
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, let us know.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's more than I know.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, time to end.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll give us your Yeah.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a relatively recent one.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did a revive conversation where we talked about heaven and I enjoyed that one mainly because like after the since then since recording that episode.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought of like, dozens of more talking points that I feel like would fit that episode well, which I think is like, well, it's good.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's making you think, which is what the reviving conversations are designed to do.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, well, you know, I'm that super happy with like, how, like, I wish I could have included more stuff that I've thought about after the fact.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think I'd be curious to hear if anyone else has any additional thoughts?
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they've thought of since the revived thoughts have an episode that, you know, right in and tell us thoughts about heaven that they may have, um, or the dynamic around how we talk about heaven.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had so many right in on Spotify.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was Katie wrote how she had the exact same experience.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned it in the episode where like I was talking about heaven.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And how it's kind of frustrating like I've talked to people sometimes where I'm like I'm looking forward to you know the great food and heaven stuff like that Like but you know a body with no problems and the people were you know it's kind of like I'm just looking forward to seeing Jesus And I'm like well of course I'm looking forward to seeing Jesus too, but these other things are nice as well, right?
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: really looking forward to that like we really went Jesus and this person wrote it was like I've had to exact same thing where I was like I can't wait for a body with no more illness and every one of the Bible study just looking at me like I'm looking forward to Jesus and it's like what's not that we don't look forward to Jesus we just Jesus is is going to is providing all these awesome things that are going to be a part of the heaven experience and so I was super excited that at least one other person knows what I'm talking about where I'm like yeah, it's not just me who's had that so
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a great episode.
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually knew it was gonna be on your list, so I just had a feeling that I was gonna be on your list, so that's why I didn't make one.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like spending a eternity with the Lord as it's own reward, that like, they said, no, no, I'm agreeing with you.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, that's your, like, you guys.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, she's right here.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: me.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm at all the Bible, so he's okay.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it's a different like, yeah, it's different.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yes, of course, not to take ever granted, but then there are other benefits to being in heaven.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be like if you were with your fiance, you're not married yet, you're like, man, looking forward to this barbecue dinner tonight, and she's like, oh, so you're not looking for her wedding day feast or something like, well, of course I'm looking forward to both of these things at the same time.
• 33:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of how it vibes.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I at least, what is the top episode of Mars' missionaries this year?
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, is there a drum roll?
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, my number one is Dick Hillis, and many people who have probably never heard of Dick Hillis, because I didn't.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I had several people over the last few years, but you really need to do a story on this guy, I don't know why they're ancient.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, you need to do a story on this guy, and there's something I always, is book is still on his soul.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, okay, sure, and I ain't no put on the list, and then eventually I got to it.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it actually...
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: was fantastic.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't, I didn't, I know it's kind of weird.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't expect to enjoy it because I never heard of the guy and I was like, you know how good can it be?
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: But no, it's actually he's storing his really, really cool.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: He starts out, like his story starts out where he is like robbed his employer during the Great Depression to go and be like a merchant like sailor.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he wants to go to Shanghai and he basically can't get a ticket because he does steal the money.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: He goes to the harbor, but he can't get a ticket because he goes like, oh, you're too young, you know, whatever.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so he has to let go home and defeat and then's up working for the shopkeeper to like earn the money back and ends up going to Biola becomes a Christian.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: He has a twin brother who also becomes a Christian at Biola and then Dick goes off to China.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and just has a really, really cool ministry there, but then after, you know, the Communist take over, he gets kicked out.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then gets sent by, uh, Madam Chen Kai-Shek, he gives basically, like, she asks, hey, I need people, I need missionaries, uh, to come and talk to my people.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: These, the more Elias soldiers here in Taiwan.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, so he gets sent over there, and so he has a ministry there, but then he starts like getting asked to expand into different parts of Asia, different parts of the South America, Europe, and so it's really cool, because it's also the formation of a whole, you know, missions organization.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, really, really cool story, and yeah, I should have probably done it earlier, so really cool story.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a great one.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I As always, create episode, love it, and I know that you got a lot of feedback from people too.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never heard of this guy.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: What a great guy.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty cool too.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool when we can When the studio can introduce people to things, they didn't know.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I always feel like that's just a cool part of what we get to do.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was the second, it was the second longest episode in Marker's mission.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty cool.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't remember.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I listened to it.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a long one, but it didn't feel long.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That makes it.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Only that's in Taylor beats it.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Two minutes or something like that.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy is almost as good as Hudson Day.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have a China.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: How can you quantify where you can't compare?
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't compare.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Lord knows which one's number one.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably George Mueller.
• 36:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's probably George Mueller.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's probably George Mueller.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So for me.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one episode.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is hard.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like literally it.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really love each of these episodes.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am excited each week when we get to put somebody out.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's very rarely one where I'm like, ah, that one's not as good.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're almost always like, oh, it says some really good this or that.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: but with the many episodes that we did and we've done everyone from Basil, Matthew, Henry, some of our revised conversations.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like that I got to do like how should Christians read the news.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the honorary mention.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was one I did by myself, but I learned a lot doing that one, and I've heard a lot of people really say, like, thank you for this episode.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It actually helps me read the news better.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is one of the top comments he will regularly say to you.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're like that episode on how to read the news as a Christian was really helpful because it just put a bunch of stuff in perspective with weird history stories.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I really do, that one I feel like should get mentioned, but if I had to go with the one that I am most encouraged by was J.C. Riles as two bears, we got an email over the summer from Mordecai, telling us about his family listening to our show, how he's a young guy, ten years old.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: with his family living during the time of war and their family was putting our podcast on.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they were already listeners for a long time, but they were putting our podcast on.
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that's so cool.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even imagine.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just ours, Marta's missionaries too.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Mordekai said he wanted to read a sermon for us.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He found these sermons by J.C. Ryle, learned it, did a fantastic job.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone has said he did an amazing job preaching them.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I just don't know how you can beat that, right?
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get young people doing great, young people's sermons, just like that's, and J.C.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rows also a great guy.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was an amazing guy too.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it all the pieces come together, so Mordekai, in my opinion, your episode of J.C. Ryle, the Bears, how do you beat it?
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can't do it.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a good episode too, so the content was well done.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has a great speaking voice.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we might be talking, you know, some day, we might be like Mordekai, got to start, revive thoughts, but you know, went on to do many great things, too.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: from other places.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So those are my top five.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, remember our little old podcast when you get there, but yeah Those are my top five of the year.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think 2025 was a great year and I'm very excited for 2020.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: 6.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You do?
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, this one.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: So here's, oh, I was going to give a spoiler there.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm working on an episode for the French Revolution, which I think will be super fun.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: The Christianization.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I'll work with that title.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: But basically, the anti-Christian nature of the French Revolution fascinating stuff.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it just, uh, uh, uh, when the tangled web we weave on first, we decide to French Revolution.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you need a precursor, we have a revive thoughts episode on the very subject so they can, they can check that out in the meantime.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went for the martyrs and missionaries when they come out.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we have some good stuff too, Joel.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very excited.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's one particular thing.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not ready to be announced fully, but may I know about it?
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know about it.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a decent, the inbox we've been talking about it.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm very excited about the stuff that we have coming out in 2026, specifically one or two projects that I'm very excited about.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So things are going well.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we should have a deep dive part too out, very soon as well.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be exciting too.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: For our Knights Timplar listeners, you should finally get to figure out what happened in the Knights Timplar and what went wrong.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: This was one that Troy went on and on and on about when he was researching it.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: episode that you want to shout out right it revive thoughts of gmail dot com right in and tell us what your favorite of twenty twenty five was or what you want to hear more of maybe you say like oh I like this one this here more from them let us know what will we'll work with you will factor it in we'll figure out how to had to add more of your favorite into our and our line up here so right some new stuff yeah right some new stuff
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we might be limited.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: There might be I think we do have a few like this is the only thing we can find But I mean that that shredded fragment of Hibilite as well as it was pretty So if you have another if you've been sitting on a fragment of Hibilite as you know That's someone you could send that there will take it We'll take it will take it off your hands at least we'll do the Greek translation like she just said and we'll go from there
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this is Troy, Joel, and Elise, and you've been listening to Revive Thoughts and Mars missionaries, New Years, fat crossover, five top episodes, I don't remember the name of this thing.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, whatever we call it on the list, uh, thank you for listening.