Latest / EEShow (Everything's Energy Show) / A Deep Dive into Nervous System Regulation | Everything’s Energy Ep-5
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- 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:20:53 Michael You're tuned into Everything's Energy show where we talk about how everything is energy and we are going to take a deep dive down the rabbit hole of energy, frequency and vibration in the form of sound healing and perhaps even maybe electronic music, and maybe the tribalism that surrounds that, the flow and energy that just makes people want to move, shake and come together. 00:00:20:57 - 00:00:34:32 Michael I'm joined today by Roland and Marino and we are going to dive. So, Marino, you had some really interesting, perspective on sound healing, and you learned about it. And I thought it was a great opening for you to jump into it. 00:00:34:36 - 00:00:53:12 Marino Yeah. So, a common thing that's kind of brought up in the centers is own sound baths. And in the beginning, I just thought, I don't know. I didn't find a lot of value in it. I guess it was on the surface. Yeah. There's always. It seems to like meditating. Right? In the beginning, it was that way. 00:00:53:12 - 00:01:20:00 Marino But then, like, I went on my journey and I learned a lot and get a lot of value out of it. And so it's kind of the same thing with sound healing. I have a friend who does it, and it wasn't until she broke it down for me in a scientific level that I was like, oh, okay. And it's not even all that, tech or anything except for, the resonance and how it affects the vagus nerve in the body and how the those vibrations have an influence on the vagus nerve, which then, you know, has an effect on your entire nervous system. 00:01:20:00 - 00:01:23:51 Marino Which role? And I'm sure you know all about. Well, you can speak more to that. 00:01:23:52 - 00:01:38:43 Roland I mean, she's kind of my jam, right? And it's interesting you say that with sound healing, because I was a little bit in your camp of like, what is this? Okay, you make it, you ding a bowl, you do the thing and there's a sound that comes out. But the more I've experienced sound healing, I don't know if you guys have done this. 00:01:38:44 - 00:01:57:30 Roland Love it. Do you not feel the music in a totally different way? Like it's not an auditory experience to me, it's a kinesthetic experience. It's a body wave buzz. And I'm like you, I want to know the science behind things rather than just going through it. So there's what frequency, Hertz and frequencies of the bowls are tuned tuned to. 00:01:57:30 - 00:02:17:25 Roland Right. So you can have a 440 which most music is. Mike. You should know this and that anyone most music nowadays is not optimally aligned because a better frequency to resonate with human bodies. 432 So when the bowls are 432 versus 440, you may not be able to distinguish the difference unless you have a trained ear, but it feels different. 00:02:17:32 - 00:02:36:47 Roland It's the best thing I can explain. And each bowl has a resonance with an energy center in the body, the chakras. I always look at things through a healing lens so you can have a lower frequency like, 396, which is going to be something, something for the lower energy centers you go up to like an 852, you might be hitting the third eye with the higher pitch, smaller bowls. 00:02:36:51 - 00:02:46:18 Roland And when people come around and they go close to you can actually feel the resonance in your body, especially if you get out of your mind and get into the feeling of the body. I don't know if you guys have had that experience. 00:02:46:18 - 00:03:07:41 Michael No. I really love sound healing, especially in the technology where, you know, you're already in a very relaxed state now, energetic, rich environment, but it just helps you go deeper when you're hearing sounds. And we resonate with those sounds on those specific areas. So, you know, 30Hz is going to be your lower chakra in the higher frequency up into ten, ten. 00:03:07:49 - 00:03:40:27 Michael And above is is, you know, a up top head or higher. And I think we do have an ethereal body that actually does reside outside of our physical body. So I find with sound healing, especially in the systems that I just go so much deeper, so much faster. It's a transport mechanism, really. If you will, to getting into a deeper state of meditation, because that's the first place I go is I just, I it's, it allows my brain to focus on something outside myself, but it's also an internal feeling. 00:03:40:27 - 00:04:00:09 Michael So a resonance inside. So my brain shuts off and I just I feel in that moment with that sound and I'm just like, okay, this is amazing. And I kind of feel high. Not that you don't feel high in the system already a little bit, but it's like it's a very tangible high, when you do those sound baths, so to speak, inside the systems and people doing it other places. 00:04:00:14 - 00:04:02:22 Michael Do you guys have a similar feeling with that? 00:04:02:27 - 00:04:25:55 Marino I do, I know that it's also different than just listening to, the same sounds over a speaker, because if you look at the diaphragm in the way that it warps, right when it's vibrating, it's very different than having glass vibrating. So you get a more consistent there's like more integrity to that frequency. If you were to get some like really expensive high end, it's. 00:04:25:56 - 00:04:29:00 Michael Like it's genetic or analog versus a digital reproduction. Right. 00:04:29:00 - 00:04:51:39 Marino Exactly. Yeah. So there's the there's warping in the diaphragm of like regular speakers versus like having a glass like vibrate and you getting that and and I think the closer we are to find the fine tuned frequency, the more I feel it. And so I think that that's way better, having some baths in centers than it is like playing music or doing anything like that or sound over speakers. 00:04:51:39 - 00:05:14:36 Michael Well, let's not shoot. You know, there's amazing musical productions out there where they spend a lot of time and they tune it to 432 for, and different, wellness frequencies, and you can find them all over YouTube. Some of them really. I'm just like, I listen as a music producer or one. I'm just like, wow, someone's spent a lot of time really fine tuning this because I feel it like I'm on this, like musical journey. 00:05:14:41 - 00:05:35:14 Michael So we won't we won't shoot the music productions in the foot there, but I think you you're right. I think the physical vibrations of something organic in the space with those balls, whether they're glass or, metal and the tuning and also the intention of the person doing it because you typically have a, like a sound shaman or a sonic shaman, they're putting their intention and their love and energy into the experience. 00:05:35:14 - 00:05:55:26 Michael They're trying to gift people around them. And I think that's also extremely, profound for for people to experience someone else's expression. Because every time they hit that, they're broadcasting their intention through that and sound as a carrier wave. It carries a lot of information, whether it's, you want to get raw with, a Hertz in or an intention, it's a carrier frequency. 00:05:55:26 - 00:05:56:47 Michael I just love how that works. 00:05:56:48 - 00:06:09:53 Roland You know, it's interesting about what you just said. So the human body is mostly water. Have you guys seen the, emotions being put into water, or have you seen the cymatics where they take sound? Oh, yeah. They create, like, a mandala or whatever the the. Yeah, it looks. 00:06:09:53 - 00:06:12:11 Michael Like sacred geometry points ceremony. 00:06:12:15 - 00:06:30:21 Roland Yeah. And I've thought about this from a perspective of a health lens, because I'm always trying to think about what can make someone healthier. So a long time ago, someone told me, be mindful of the frequencies you expose yourself to. And back then I'm like, what do you mean by the frequencies? Most music nowadays is disruptive frequency to the body. 00:06:30:21 - 00:06:49:39 Roland If it's not either ideally tuned or has some sort of intention behind the sound, and when sound hits the body, it's influencing, like you said, the vagus nerve and the nervous system. I think that's why people are drawn to it. It really pulls them into a state of more alpha theta brainwave waves, which is more aligned with the present moment. 00:06:49:44 - 00:06:57:02 Roland But the water in your body is not like water in the glass. Water in the body is a structured carrier or a catalyst that carries energy. 00:06:57:03 - 00:06:58:20 Michael Yeah. So crystalline structure is. 00:06:58:35 - 00:07:20:42 Roland Exactly when certain frequencies hit the water in your body. This is my feel, my belief. It dis regulates the structure from an optimal state to a suboptimal state in the body. And the body's physiology is trying to balance back out, which is why someone may feel stressed after certain music, or they may feel emotionally motivated or emotionally depressed. 00:07:20:47 - 00:07:41:15 Roland What I think sound frequencies from things like glass bowls or Tibetan bowls do is the pure tone of those instruments hits the body, the wave of energy, the sound energy collides with the body and influences water dynamics. And I think it helps to restructure the energy in the body, bringing the person's health and physical state back into a more optimal way of being. 00:07:41:20 - 00:07:54:32 Roland And I think this is a little bit of the unconscious draw to sound healing, that I think the uprising of popularity is pulling people in their physiology know something. The body consciousness is pulling them in rather than just going, I like sound baths. 00:07:54:37 - 00:07:55:19 Michael Well, yeah. 00:07:55:24 - 00:08:23:52 Marino Go ahead. And adding to that, I also think that it's such a powerful tool to help bring someone to another state without forcing them. Like if you think about of any form of therapy or like helping someone, sometimes you're like trying to get them to see something. But the beauty with music is that you can do it through the music, through the effects that it has, and you can pull that person into that space without forcing them or telling them that they should do something. 00:08:23:52 - 00:08:35:40 Marino And you can kind of take them on that journey without actually you physically touching them or influencing that directly, except for the intentions that you set through the music or the sound that you're making. 00:08:35:45 - 00:08:56:03 Michael Yeah, I think people the resonating with something. So they're coming back to it again and again and to your cinematic expression of that too, so that the body's reorganizing under it and it's literally happy. So the cells are like, oh, I'm happy. And so the mind's, the mind's consciousness go, oh, this feels good. I like I like this, this is it's kind of sexy or vibey or whatever. 00:08:56:14 - 00:09:13:13 Michael Yeah, I like this. Yeah. So and I said, yeah, and it's a circuit and it's an unnatural high too. So people are naturally inclined to do things that feel good. That's why people have sex and they drink coffee and they drink alcohol. Oh, this feels good in the moment. And some of these things have negative effects. Sound healing, I don't know, can you think of a single negative effect? 00:09:13:15 - 00:09:30:46 Michael Oh, and a proper sounding. Obviously, if you're listening to grunge music or heavy metal, maybe it's it might be canceling out of an angry person's listening to something angry, and then they use a phase conjugation there where they're like two negatives make a positive. I feel better now. Like, yeah, I don't know. I'm theorizing it. I'm trying to think like, you know, as a teenager, you're kind of angsty. 00:09:30:46 - 00:09:36:18 Michael So you listen to some of these weird music. Angry. Double angry. Yeah. No, I mean, that's valid. 00:09:36:23 - 00:09:59:09 Roland I don't think it's a negative effect, but I think there can be an experiential aspect that would be challenging for someone because sound changes energy. So let's say someone has an emotional trauma or something in them. Sound healing can in voluntarily release that from the body. Maybe when that person might not you expecting it might not be ready for it. 00:09:59:14 - 00:10:16:46 Roland So I think sound healing can create a powerful emotional release. And maybe if you're in a group of people that you don't know, you don't want to be that one person, tweak it in the corner, try to deal with some PTSD crying. Yeah, I'm having a massive crying spell. Ultimately, it's a beneficial thing, but I think we have to respect that sound is a form of healing. 00:10:16:51 - 00:10:28:15 Roland So to your question, I think that would be the only consideration to where if there's something in your energy field, the catalyst of sound might push that to the surface a little bit more quickly than you would want. Otherwise. 00:10:28:15 - 00:10:58:01 Marino Yeah. At, Tony Robbins events, he uses music super intentional, and he'll kind of set you up with a story to kind of bring you on this journey to experience a set of emotions so that then you can look at the problem through a different lens. Right. And he uses music extensively. And it was, it was there, I think the first time that I've ever experienced a very like humanitarian or global citizen kind of feeling connected to everyone. 00:10:58:06 - 00:11:14:32 Marino And then once he lays that with some music, it's just like, like he'll put on a bonfire and it's just like we're all there with strangers. It's like hugging each other and like we're all one. And it's like it's so powerful bringing us together or shifting us out of, like a certain kind of frequency, which is like an emotion. 00:11:14:32 - 00:11:18:32 Marino Right? So that we can kind of process what we're going through differently. 00:11:18:37 - 00:11:39:02 Michael Yeah. I mean, back in my, DJ years, I was always trying to figure out what brought people together in the music. It's really if you it's a synchronization, really, because you put 100 people in a room and they all start moving to the same beat, this tribalism, they're all one. All of a sudden there's a community instantly. 00:11:39:06 - 00:11:57:46 Michael And then you have this rise and fall of different emotions that occurs in the music. And I would always program out very intentional sets, because I would dive through all this different music and weed out what I would resonate with and hopefully the people in front of me would, would resonate with. And that's what actually made me a most amazing deejay. 00:11:57:46 - 00:12:16:11 Michael What I was decent is I, I could take people on this emotional journey through the music, and I knew everything about intention and frequency to so that you would never find anything ill intended in the music. It was always a very one conjoined, like bring everyone to get. How am I going to make this dancefloor make love to each other? 00:12:16:22 - 00:12:39:10 Michael With clothes on? Obviously that kind of theory and, it's the connectivity is really, I think what draws people to electronic music, it's they want to come together because society is so fractured throughout all of our day to day things. Everyone's on their phone, they're at work, and they don't like people. They're they're looking for a community where they can isolate themselves while being social at the same time. 00:12:39:10 - 00:12:57:30 Michael Because most people aren't talking on a dance floor, it's too loud, but they're all moving to that same beat and they're like, yeah, this feels good. And what other instance do you have people just randomly breaking down in a dance or movement, and which is also healing because you're now moving, you're exercising, you're. 00:12:57:37 - 00:12:59:03 Roland Moving energy through the body. 00:12:59:03 - 00:13:11:49 Michael And you're having a feeling you're just kind of in that moment as one with everyone all moving and, synchronized. It's like, a master clock. Well, you're the music for a group of people to sync up. 00:13:11:54 - 00:13:29:54 Marino So this is the case, I was reading there was like some study that was done, the saying that most Americans, they get their exercise from going down dancing, because the average American does an exercise. Yeah. So it's like you go on this emotional journey where you're having a good time, you're connecting with others with connecting with others is a human need, right? 00:13:29:54 - 00:13:36:46 Marino Yeah. And then you're moving your body as well. So it's like one of those things that from many different angles is like super beneficial. 00:13:37:00 - 00:13:53:51 Michael Yeah, I've heard of I've seen articles on these like sober parties where people are waking up, you know, 6 to 8 in the morning and they're all hitting the major nightclub and like sports gear, and they're just jamming out, dancing and having coffee. And I was like, that's actually a great idea. Like, forget cardio, just go dance. 00:13:53:56 - 00:13:54:14 Marino With your. 00:13:54:14 - 00:14:14:14 Roland Friends. Have you guys tried any other sound healing modalities like tuning forks or Tibetan bowls or. Yeah, I don't know what they are. I've gone to the sound thing in the park where they have these long sticks and they just turn them upside down so they have rhinestones, the rain sticks, they have the triangles, they have, they seem almost like Indigenous or Native American devices that. 00:14:14:14 - 00:14:18:03 Roland Okay. Have you tried the layering of all of those things together? 00:14:18:03 - 00:14:21:12 Michael I mean, I learned to play the didgeridoo when I was young and up until it broke. 00:14:21:12 - 00:14:23:35 Roland Of course you did. But. 00:14:23:39 - 00:14:40:26 Michael I mean, I think all those old tribal instruments have, they all have their own frequencies. They all have their own benefit. I'm a big fan of the tuning forks. I've played with those over the years to, like, put them on your head, literally. Physical vibrations going through your head and you're like, 00:14:40:31 - 00:14:54:17 Roland Yeah, yeah. This woman, her name's she wrote a book called Tuning the Human Bio field. And my wife has tuning forks. And I remember I was working with a client one time, and I was looking at him and kind of like feeling into his energy. And I said, there's something on the right side of his field that feels off. 00:14:54:30 - 00:15:15:43 Roland So she hit the tuning fork, and that creates a resonance, as you put it, close to the body as you move it away. If there's a distortion in the energy field, the field changes, the sound changes, and you can actually reestablish a connection in the person's field. And your validation of it's working. Is that the sound of the fork or the pitch actually remains constant as you do your work. 00:15:15:48 - 00:15:19:58 Roland So sound can be a really strategic healing tool as well. Well, it's a. 00:15:19:58 - 00:15:44:29 Michael Physical sound wave that passes through you and around you. Your human bio field is extremely sensitive to everything from electro small like Wi-Fi and 5G or whatever. But when you apply these physical sound waves, it's almost like an energetic massage in a lot of ways, which is why I was really drawn to electronic music. And being a DJ is you have these gigantic subwoofers and a really well tuned sound system. 00:15:44:29 - 00:15:49:37 Michael You sit in front of it and you're just like, sound. But 00:15:49:42 - 00:16:08:24 Marino Yeah, that's our car environment that I'm a part of. They have a really a gap, a function, one really expensive sound system. And what I found cool about it was that when they turn it up, it doesn't feel very loud in your ears. They're able to amplify it so that it reaches further lengths. But it still passes through you. 00:16:08:29 - 00:16:28:17 Marino And separate from that point I wanted to make before two is in terms of the physical aspect of the waves kind of making contact with you. There's also information in that. So like, yes, there's this physical phenomena that's occurring, but also there's meaning behind it and how that's interpreted by the body and what effects it has and all that stuff. 00:16:28:18 - 00:16:31:59 Marino It's much more than just the frequency of the sound that's coming in. 00:16:32:03 - 00:17:13:55 Michael Well, it's funny, you mentioned, so function one and Danley are both actually very spiritual, grounded sound companies. Tony Andrews, started Turbo Sound and then made function one. And if you listen to him talk about his speakers, he's a very hyper spiritual person. And, and Danley actually started making speakers for churches. So the the collaboration of sound healing between the two, arguably two of the biggest, high quality sound systems that you'll find for electronic music, they're very touted and it's very interesting, but they also have a big emphasis on not being loud, but you feel everything you're supposed to feel, and you hear everything you're supposed to hear. 00:17:14:00 - 00:17:26:23 Michael You hear and feel all these things. But at the same time, we can have a conversation on the dance floor because a lot of sound systems, it's just loud. Yeah. And this is like a sound engineer thing is so like, well, it should be louder. It's like, no, no, no no no no, no, I don't want my ears to bleed. 00:17:26:27 - 00:17:36:01 Michael I shouldn't have to wear earplugs. I probably should add a finely tuned sound system. You sit there and you feel everything and you resonate with it, and it doesn't feel like it's attacking you. 00:17:36:14 - 00:17:43:25 Marino It wasn't until I listened to a function one. After that, I went to a concert and I was like, this sounds horrible. Yeah, it. 00:17:43:26 - 00:17:44:28 Michael Sounds yeah, yeah. 00:17:44:30 - 00:17:50:39 Marino It was just like, oh, now I get some sounds. Not now, but yeah, it's a world of a difference in quality. Yeah. 00:17:50:43 - 00:18:02:56 Roland I want to ask you guys because you're the music. You're the tech guy. Kind of a closing question. Do you think things like sound bowls and other old school devices can be replaced with technology, or do you think there's going to be kind of like a merging of something. 00:18:03:01 - 00:18:20:57 Michael As analog versus digital? I mean, you can have an analog sound system, but there's kind of still pass through modern day technology. So I think there's a huge aspect of the organic artistry. And I think we'll see. I start to replace a lot of musicians to or sadly, that's coming. And then we'll have another conversation about that. 00:18:20:57 - 00:18:39:47 Michael But, you there's an intentionality that can be transferred probably to a recording device, but the intention of a human bio field being around another bio field while intentionally doing that musical sound healing stuff, I think that's extremely powerful. I don't think you'll be able to replicate that with, any modern technology currently we have. 00:18:39:51 - 00:18:48:37 Roland So it's good news for all the sound healers and aspiring sound healers out there. They won't be replaced by something technological. Yeah, yeah, there's still time. Yeah. 00:18:48:42 - 00:19:09:15 Marino I totally agree. There's those are two different things in the very same way. Like no matter how you record and replay back your voice, it's not the vibration of your vocal cords and your your vocal cords and it just can't be replicated. So I think that those are two separate domains and they can both kind of, advance in their own, scopes, but they want one more place. 00:19:09:15 - 00:19:09:41 Marino The other. 00:19:09:41 - 00:19:12:20 Roland I don't think so. Brilliant insights. Yeah. 00:19:12:24 - 00:19:22:36 Michael Well, I guess we'll wrap that if you enjoyed what we're talking about or have something to chime in, make sure you like, comment, subscribe. All those normal things you hear on our streaming channels and we'll see you next time.