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Summer Mailbag Part 2 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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Speaker 1: Chad Noulman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We
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Speaker 1: have reached the peak of summer. Hopefully everyone is going
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Speaker 1: into a July fourth holiday weekend. You can bring us
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Speaker 1: along with you for your listening pleasure. It is part
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Speaker 1: two of our annual summer mail Bag episodes, where we
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Speaker 1: answer your burning questions right here on the show. Simon
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Speaker 1: doesn't know this yet, but I'm changing an answer from
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Speaker 1: the previous mail bag episode. Joining me is my co host,
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Speaker 1: my companion, Mike cam Padre my BFF Professional Better Simon
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Speaker 1: Hunter et O. Soymon, Hello Chad.
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Speaker 2: The true dog days of summer. It's in the Northeast.
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Speaker 2: Became go outside anymore. It's so humid and hot, and
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Speaker 2: basically all I'm doing is just enjoying football, right, just
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Speaker 2: getting ready for the season. So yeah, this next month
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Speaker 2: is the last real push, right chat, It's the last
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Speaker 2: slow days and then it just starts speeding up.
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Speaker 1: It's like three weeks until training camp starts great and
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Speaker 1: it is on us in a snap, and then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're gonna have to start making choices.
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Speaker 1: Are we watching Pennant race potential winning games in baseball
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Speaker 1: or are we watching a Thursday night preseason game between
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Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Cardinals to see if we can
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Speaker 3: But Bear's got the Hall of Fame game, right, That's right,
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Speaker 3: that's I mean, come on, hey, listen, I'm a huge
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Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. I have a very very
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Speaker 1: In our previous mailbag, Simon, someone asked about advice, and
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Speaker 1: you know what, we always get questions about advice, career, advice, life, advice,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, and we both sort of landed on
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Speaker 1: something that I feel like is the same answer everybody gives,
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Speaker 1: which is take risks, don't be afraid things will work out.
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Speaker 1: I'm a thousand years older than you. I can look
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Speaker 1: back and be like, oh my god, I should have
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Speaker 1: taken even more risks, and like nothing I did before
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Speaker 1: I turned thirty mattered, and I was too focused on
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Speaker 1: being perfect and trying to get every job and the
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Speaker 1: next job in the ladder and doing those jobs well,
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Speaker 1: and like missing out on other opportunities that might have
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Speaker 1: been as much fun or led to different or just
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Speaker 1: as interesting a career. But the answer is I thought
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Speaker 1: about this when I was walking the dog. After we
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Speaker 1: answer that it's the fucking people. The number of people
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Speaker 1: I know who have taken calculated risks on jobs and
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Speaker 1: then ended up in a trap working with the shittiest people.
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Speaker 1: I can count on a thousand fingers, and every single
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Speaker 1: person I talk to who is my age will now
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Speaker 1: tell you the most important factor when thinking about who
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Speaker 1: you're going to spend your time with. And this is
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Speaker 1: really focused on career. It's about the people. Like you
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Speaker 1: can't even work at a great place if the people
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Speaker 1: you're working with you can't stand if they're bad people,
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Speaker 1: if they're political, if they're stab and whatever. But I
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Speaker 1: got that sort of someone mentioned that to me, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, that totally makes sense.
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Speaker 2: No, that's yeah, it's probably number one. Right Like this,
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Speaker 2: I think most people in life would take less money
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Speaker 2: if they knew they'd be working with people that didn't
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Speaker 2: make them just dread every day of their existence because
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Speaker 2: they're having to deal with this person. So I'm right
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Speaker 2: there with you, Tred. I've worked some horrible jobs with
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Speaker 2: some horrible people that yeah, like, there's there's nothing worse
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Speaker 2: than that, right, because then you can't sleep the Sunday
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Speaker 2: night because you know you're about to spend all day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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Speaker 2: Friday with this person. So now that's a great answer.
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Speaker 1: I remember I had gone away on a trip with
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Speaker 1: my wife, like in two thousand, you know, we were
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Speaker 1: barely married, and we were coming back and I was
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Speaker 1: working on ESPN the magazine, and I was working for
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Speaker 1: someone I really couldn't stand, who had made my life miserable,
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Speaker 1: truly miserable. And We're in a cab, we're leaving LaGuardia
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Speaker 1: on the highway, going over the ben Triborough Bridge, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't go back. And this was a
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Speaker 1: dream job, right, Like I had gone from sid ESPN
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Speaker 1: the magazine. I was covering the NFL. I like, it's
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Speaker 1: all I wanted.
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Speaker 2: What a great day you just said that day or
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Speaker 2: you get to leave that job. Oh, I'm like, God,
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Speaker 2: what a great day.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't go back, And my wife says,
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Speaker 1: what do you mean? I go. I can't work with
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Speaker 1: this person anymore. I hate them. They are terrible. And
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Speaker 1: within a month, with a month, I found a new job,
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Speaker 1: and you know, that company cratered and I ended up
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Speaker 1: going back. That was actually right when I was about
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Speaker 1: to write the odds sports betting book. Got to do
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Speaker 1: to write the book. Wanted to go write the book
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Speaker 1: ESPN and this boss would not give me the support
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Speaker 1: to go write the book. So I found a new
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Speaker 1: job so I could write the book while I was
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Speaker 1: doing that job. And that job and it was and
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Speaker 1: then I went back to Espano and it worked out great,
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Speaker 1: and that person was no longer there by the way.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's the people people, speaking of which Bill
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Speaker 1: Walton passed away a few weeks ago, about six weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: This is a great question. It feels like there are
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Speaker 1: not enough truly great color and play by play broadcasters
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Speaker 1: for how much live sports we watch. Now, who are
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Speaker 1: some of your favorites left favorites of all time?
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough because I honestly watched about ninety
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Speaker 2: nine percent of sport events with mute on. I'm just
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Speaker 2: one of those people. Either I'm talking to people, I
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Speaker 2: got music going, and football it's even worse. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I just can't do it. Let's'm at a party with
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Speaker 2: a bunch of people, then I'll listen to it after
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Speaker 2: the you know, if I'm with people, of course i'll
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Speaker 2: listen to it. But yeah, for me, this is gonna
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Speaker 2: be a cop ound. The only thing I listened to
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Speaker 2: my favorite commentary it's soccer.
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Speaker 4: So not scratch some eyes, you are really seeing me
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Speaker 4: must extraordinary fits up. There's no feeling like not feeling.
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Speaker 2: Just hearing the British or Scottish or Irish accent talking
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Speaker 2: about soccer. I just love it, and it just they
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Speaker 2: do it a different style than Americans as well. So
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Speaker 2: that's that's a cop thought answer. I'm trying to think
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Speaker 2: my favorite America. I mean, it's depressing when the few
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Speaker 2: people that make me laugh and I feel like they
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Speaker 2: provide some knowledge. But I like to talk about him
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Speaker 2: because it's fun. It's Tony Romo, Like Tony Romo is
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Speaker 2: turning to this drunk uncle at the party. Well it
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Speaker 2: looks like it discombobulated themselves.
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Speaker 5: He's I don't know, Jim, I don't know if he's
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Speaker 5: gonna do this, Like even the Super Bowl he wouldn't
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Speaker 5: shut the fuck up, and the most important final play
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Speaker 5: of the game, like he's talking over him when he's
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Speaker 5: trying to make themselves important call of the game, or
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Speaker 5: my home's about to walk off, like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's fun. Like Tony Romo, he's the perfect type of
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Speaker 2: he really cares and it feels like he's out partying
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Speaker 2: all night and he lost his voice the night before
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Speaker 2: he does a game like. He's just a really fun
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Speaker 2: balance to me. So yeah, I can't believe it. But
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Speaker 2: of all the people that cracked me up, Tony rowe
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Speaker 2: might be number one in sports right now.
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Speaker 1: So this is a very specific answer, and I think
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Speaker 1: people who are Bulls fans are from Chicago will appreciate this.
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Speaker 1: But the Bulls have been very lucky in that they
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Speaker 1: have had really great broadcasters over the years. During the
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan years, Jim Durham and Johnny red Kerr were amazing,
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Speaker 1: and you would watch a game with Johnny red Kerr,
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Speaker 1: who was an old time Bulls player and it was
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Speaker 1: the best of homersm it was the best of inside basketball.
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Speaker 1: You just fucking loved it. And I feel like Stacy
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Speaker 1: King is the greatest sort of He carries on that
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Speaker 1: legacy of Johnny red Kerr as he is so funny.
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Speaker 1: His gimmicks are so perfect. He will sing a commercial
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Speaker 1: like You've got a guy who advertises for insurance in
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Speaker 1: every game and he will sing the jingle. His phrases
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Speaker 1: are awesome. He loves the bulls and also he's a
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Speaker 1: mountain of a man. And the Bulls play by play
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Speaker 1: is Adam Amin And when they go to the to
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Speaker 1: the table of them together for their shots, you know
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Speaker 1: before the quarter, it's like an elephant and a mouse.
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Speaker 1: And they are fantastic together and then so interesting to
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Speaker 1: look at as to diametrically opposed size human beings. Love
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Speaker 1: love love listening to them do Bulls games. They are
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Speaker 1: amazing at their jobs, So that would be one. I
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Speaker 1: also mentioned favorite of all time Johnny Redkerr. Look I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go way Homer on this. I grew up with
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Speaker 1: Harry Carey in the Cups games, so like coming home
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Speaker 1: after school for day games with Harry Carey. It's like
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Speaker 1: story time every day, and so in fact, I loved
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Speaker 1: Harry Carey so much. When I left Sports Illustrated, they
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Speaker 1: had these great this great library of clips and photos
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Speaker 1: that you could access if you were doing research on
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Speaker 1: a story or fact checking a story. Again, this is
11:33
Speaker 1: like when they had librarians, three or four librarians full time.
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Speaker 1: They're going through every paper, every magazine around the country,
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Speaker 1: clipping things, putting them in folders you can go check
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Speaker 1: you like, you don't have the Internet to check this shit, right.
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Speaker 1: They also had all these pictures and I stole a
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Speaker 1: picture of Harry Carey in the broadcast booth just in
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Speaker 1: his boxers because it was so hot, and I brought
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Speaker 1: it with me to ESPN and then I had it
11:58
Speaker 1: in my house and it point I made it my
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Speaker 1: Twitter avatar, and I was edteran chief of ESPN the magazine,
12:05
Speaker 1: and we did an issue where we had Kobe Bryant
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Speaker 1: and Nicki Minaj on the cover and uh, Nicki Minaj
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Speaker 1: and like you're on set with the with the athletes
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Speaker 1: and the celebrities. You're not giving them like the right
12:19
Speaker 1: of refusal on a picture, but you're showing them the
12:22
Speaker 1: pictures as they go so like, if there's something they
12:25
Speaker 1: truly hate, we're not going to run it. Like they're
12:28
Speaker 1: not going to see what the final image is, but
12:30
Speaker 1: they're gonna feel comfortable that I'm only seeing images that
12:32
Speaker 1: they've at least feel comfortable with. So we do the
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Speaker 1: cover and Nicki Minaj hates the way her forehead looks.
12:42
Speaker 1: People would nothing big, get cash make complain of that.
12:46
Speaker 1: Look at what you just saw.
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Speaker 4: This is.
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Speaker 1: Like and like people are going after ESPN the magazine.
12:56
Speaker 1: So it gets to the point where I have to
12:57
Speaker 1: put out a statement about not photoshopping Nicki Minaj's forehead
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Speaker 1: in the issue. So I put out a statement, We're
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Speaker 1: so thrilled Ms Minaje would do the cover with us.
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Speaker 1: It's really important. You know, she's an icon, but the
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Speaker 1: forehead she walked in with is the one that is
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Speaker 1: on the cover. We don't photoshop covers. And all of
13:25
Speaker 1: a sudden, my Twitter dms start blowing up and people
13:33
Speaker 1: are saying, who's this dude? Why is he so fucking old?
13:37
Speaker 1: Why does he have man boobs? He shouldn't be anywhere
13:40
Speaker 1: with his shirt off, And I'm like, what are they
13:44
Speaker 1: talking about? Where have they seen pictures of me? And
13:46
Speaker 1: then I realize my avatar is Harry Carey with his
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Speaker 1: shirt off, and NICKI minaj. Fans don't know who Harry
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Speaker 1: Carey is, so they think I'm Harry Carey and that
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Speaker 1: I'm in the picture with my shirt off.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, Well for you on Homer, before we remove topics,
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Speaker 2: I'm going one Homer pick. I'll go with John Kruck.
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Speaker 1: Football question fresh Start on a minimum contract. Would you
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Speaker 1: rather have Zach Wilson age twenty four or Joe Flacco
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Speaker 1: age thirty nine.
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Speaker 2: I would definitely go Zach Wilson, even though I think
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Speaker 2: he's broken and I have zero faith there's gonna be
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Speaker 2: upside there. Like the kid's got a great arm, he's
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Speaker 2: got some athleticism to him. It just to me seems
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Speaker 2: like it's all mental. And you know, Joe Flacco, we
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Speaker 2: love him, but let's not get it twisted right, like
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Speaker 2: he's going to be an up and down quarterback. He is,
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Speaker 2: what you just said, thirty nine years old. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's it's it's at your question. I love that's when
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Speaker 2: we've asked it, But yeah, I'll go I'll go with
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Speaker 2: youth and upside over then a thirty nine year old
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Speaker 2: that I think, I mean last year was lightning in
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Speaker 2: a bottle. I don't know if you can ever capture
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Speaker 2: that again. But I believe it's on the Colts. So
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Speaker 2: you know him and Shane Steich and you never know,
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Speaker 2: you never know.
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Speaker 1: Uh, I would need to know more about the parameters.
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Speaker 1: Am I thinking for a year or am I thinking
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Speaker 1: for multiple years? If it's multiple years, Zach Wilson, If
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Speaker 1: it's one year, Yeah, let's take Joe Flacco. That's because
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Speaker 1: I've seen him do it often enough in high pressure
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Speaker 1: situations with the right coaching and understanding his own limits.
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Speaker 1: That if you need Joe Flacco to go in and
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Speaker 1: win you two or three games, I would find value
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Speaker 1: on that. I don't think any of us would find
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Speaker 1: value in Zach Wilson. I believe he is broken. I
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Speaker 1: think he's been broken since the day he entered the league.
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Speaker 1: He was never as good as anybody thought he was
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Speaker 1: going to be. You and I believed he was a
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Speaker 1: terrible choice, and that at BYU he got by played
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Speaker 1: saying inferior competition, with a superior offensive line and a
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Speaker 1: wicked good arm. But you're not making difficult throws when
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Speaker 1: you're playing BYU, but behind a line with NFL caliber
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. So Joe FLACU or is Bob Scocci likes
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Speaker 1: to say better. FLACU is the choice there. NFL Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer Larry Allen passed away tragically fifty two years old.
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Speaker 1: Titanically strong, infamously nasty on the field, Many experts have
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Speaker 1: called him the greatest offensive lineman of all time. Are
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Speaker 1: there any current offensive lineman who will end up deserving
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Speaker 1: similar accolades in ten or twenty years. I have someone
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Speaker 1: very specific in mind.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to pick back and Larry Owen, I
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Speaker 2: heard saw a really funny story about when they were
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Speaker 2: going to run the ball. You sorry, go on cho,
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Speaker 2: the train's coming, And I can't imagine how scary that
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Speaker 2: must have been on the other side, that he was
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Speaker 2: telling you what was coming and you knew you couldn't
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Speaker 2: stop it.
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Speaker 6: Hey, this is Matt. Just want to jump in really quickly.
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Speaker 6: Growing up as a Bill's fan in the nineteen nineties,
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Speaker 6: I certainly hated Larry Allen's guts because he was an
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Speaker 6: unbelievable force for a team. I absolutely hated the Dallas Cowboys,
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Speaker 6: but I certainly believe Larry Allen was the greatest offensive
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Speaker 6: lineman to ever live, and my favorite Larry Allen's story
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Speaker 6: comes from noted badass and nine hundred inch neck owner
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Speaker 6: to Keo Spikes of the Bengals and Buffalo Bills. Here
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Speaker 6: is his story from the BTM podcast about Larry Allen.
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Speaker 4: He then took two steps and he threw me back.
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Speaker 4: As I was going back. Whatever you do, don't fall
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Speaker 4: because he is going to sur plant you and everybody
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Speaker 4: in the league is going to see. Spikes got folded
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Speaker 4: up like a folding chaircake, pancake, Molly w.
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Speaker 2: Peter, did you that's what I want to do.
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Speaker 4: When we turned on the field, the cats in the
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Speaker 4: meeting room was like, Spikes, you can bear, crawl fast cancer.
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Speaker 2: I did not want to fall.
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Speaker 4: I was like this on the ground because I was like,
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Speaker 4: I know he's trying to finish me. I actually crawled
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Speaker 4: like right off over by the sideline, just to make
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Speaker 4: sure you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I looked up and he was looking at me. Had
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Speaker 2: a dip in his mouth too. He played with a dip.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this he was nasty bro for me.
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Speaker 2: I'll go Jason Peters, the bodyguard, like the man came
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Speaker 2: to the league as a tight end. I moved to
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Speaker 2: tackle and the rest is history. I mean, one of
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Speaker 2: the best trades he was ever ever made. He was
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Speaker 2: just incredible every since, even the year we won the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl he wasn't playing, you know, Brandon Brooks Slain
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Speaker 2: Johnson talked about how he was just with them every day,
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Speaker 2: talking technique, trying to help them out, like just the
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Speaker 2: Cossumm pro. So, yeah, if I'm thinking of freaks like that,
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, you know, Larry Allen's famous for bench
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Speaker 2: pressing seven hundred pounds. I don't think. I don't think
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Speaker 2: that guy exists in the league anymore. I mean, that's
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Speaker 2: country strong. But yeah, I'll go. I'll go. Jason Peters.
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't go with Trent Williams.
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Speaker 2: I love Trent, I do. I just he never played
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Speaker 2: for me, so I'm a little biased.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Trent Williams to me, he's the sort of
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Speaker 1: cornerstone almost, you know, in the most figurative way to
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Speaker 1: what has been the most consistently awesome offense. He did
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Speaker 1: it in Washington, He's done it in San Francisco. It
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Speaker 1: is a team that is so different when he's not playing.
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Speaker 1: You hear from everybody you see in the stats, how
20:55
Speaker 1: much how well he can protect, but also what an
20:58
Speaker 1: incredible run blocker is, how he can pick up blocks
21:01
Speaker 1: down field like this guy. To me, he's obviously a
21:06
Speaker 1: surefire Hall of Famer. And it's the one thing like
21:08
Speaker 1: I think the I think the Niners every year are
21:12
Speaker 1: going in. Please give us one more year, Please give
21:14
Speaker 1: us one more year, Please give us one more year.
21:16
Speaker 1: If you were to pull players, I bet they would
21:18
Speaker 1: all say Trent Williams easily the top tackle in the NFL.
21:25
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would say he's really good, but
21:27
Speaker 2: he's not as great as you think he is. He
21:29
Speaker 2: gets beat. He does get beat. So I agree, though
21:33
Speaker 2: he is incredible run blocking tackle, but you know these
21:38
Speaker 2: pass rushers they get him. He gets beat, and like
21:40
Speaker 2: you can't say the same about Peters Man. The dude
21:43
Speaker 2: was incredible. If you if we go back and look
21:45
Speaker 2: at the stats, so I say, recency biased, Chad's falling
21:48
Speaker 2: of the recency bias.
21:49
Speaker 1: It's possible. It's possible. I'm thinking about last last year
21:52
Speaker 1: when you love.
21:53
Speaker 2: That forty nine er. Goddamn do you love though, dude?
21:55
Speaker 1: When they went in that three hole and they weren't
21:58
Speaker 1: playing with Trent Williams, and and Debo and then all
22:03
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like now, that was an.
22:05
Speaker 2: Amazing stat Evant had. Right. They were like a totally
22:07
Speaker 2: different team without him.
22:09
Speaker 1: A different freaking team. Okay, you just mentioned Tony Romo,
22:13
Speaker 1: which NFL quarterback from the nineteen nineties would achieve even
22:20
Speaker 1: more in today's NFL. Brett Favre, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon,
22:27
Speaker 1: Kerry Collins, Jeff George.
22:30
Speaker 2: I'll go Warren Moon. Just he dealt with racism and
22:33
Speaker 2: a lot of bullshit that he would never have to
22:35
Speaker 2: deal with nowadays. And he was so ahead of his
22:38
Speaker 2: time for what he was, right, I go. People say
22:40
Speaker 2: the same thing about Raynall Cunninghame. I think Warren Moon
22:42
Speaker 2: is better than Rayall Cunning him, to be honest with you.
22:44
Speaker 2: So yeah, warn Moon got such a raw deal. He
22:47
Speaker 2: would be perfect for this NFL. Like everything he does, well,
22:52
Speaker 2: you know, the big arm, the athleticism. I mean, Anthony
22:56
Speaker 2: Richardson's a freak. We all agree, right, Warren Moon was
22:59
Speaker 2: kind of built like that. He was so big, so strong. Yeah,
23:03
Speaker 2: just thinking about him, it's it would have been crazy
23:06
Speaker 2: to see warming playing nowadays. Right, That's just again perfect
23:09
Speaker 2: name too, got a great name. I would have loved
23:12
Speaker 2: to see him playing in the league nowadays.
23:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting you say that, because that was
23:16
Speaker 1: going to be my first instinct to like his ability
23:20
Speaker 1: to throw the ball and the stats he racked up
23:24
Speaker 1: even before like the NFL was what it is today
23:27
Speaker 1: where it's so passer friendly. I mean, he was truly
23:31
Speaker 1: prolific as a thrower. But then I think about Brett
23:36
Speaker 1: Frog was prolific and playing in that era, could he
23:41
Speaker 1: have won even more Super Bowls?
23:44
Speaker 2: Right, James Winston? Yeah, that's right, to get another world
23:48
Speaker 2: he would have been Jameis Winston. Honestly, he just he
23:50
Speaker 2: Luckily he was on a team filled with Hall of
23:53
Speaker 2: Fame coaches, right Amy Reid with his QB coach like
23:57
Speaker 2: you know, Homegren, all of it, like that whole thing.
23:59
Speaker 2: Mary like Mary like Mary Ucci, Mary Ucci. Yeah, Like
24:03
Speaker 2: they had so much good coaching on that team. But
24:05
Speaker 2: I love where you're coming from too, because I just
24:07
Speaker 2: I mean Brett Farr he was what one of the
24:10
Speaker 2: most exciting fun players to watch and a guy we're
24:13
Speaker 2: talking about Flack we are thirty nine, Like that's what
24:16
Speaker 2: Brett Farv was right on that crazy room with the Vikings.
24:18
Speaker 2: He was an old man still doing it, so I
24:21
Speaker 2: can I can see where you're coming from. Brett fav
24:22
Speaker 2: would be really fun to watch in this day and age.
24:25
Speaker 1: So Frey Aikman, though, take Carry Collins off the list.
24:31
Speaker 1: Like Carry Collins was a lucky circumstance, right place, right time,
24:40
Speaker 1: right team moment. Trey Aikman famously not the guy who
24:46
Speaker 1: put up amazing numbers. The team was built around defense.
24:52
Speaker 1: The team was built a brown EMMITTT. Smith. The team
24:54
Speaker 1: was built around Larry Allen and that offensive line Nate Newton.
24:58
Speaker 1: Right in this era with offense being much more wide open,
25:07
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman hire up even more stats and the Cowboys
25:11
Speaker 1: win as many Super Bowls as they won.
25:14
Speaker 2: No, I mean they had a Hall of Fame full back,
25:17
Speaker 2: hall of Fame running back. He just talked about Hall
25:19
Speaker 2: of Fame offensive lineman, and then a Hall of Famer
25:21
Speaker 2: on the outside. And they had a bunch of guys
25:23
Speaker 2: on defense that were great players as well. It was
25:25
Speaker 2: just and I mean now you mixing that they kept
25:27
Speaker 2: playing Buffalo. It was just a perfect time for the
25:30
Speaker 2: Cowboys that they kept you know, then then the Giants,
25:33
Speaker 2: they got a couple of rings off that Buffalo team.
25:36
Speaker 2: That's like that changes history, right, that that gives the
25:39
Speaker 2: Giants a really rich history, and the same with the Cowboys.
25:43
Speaker 2: So Troy Aikman couldn't have timed it any better for
25:46
Speaker 2: his skill set, what he did so well, and another
25:50
Speaker 2: guy who the NFL chewed him up and spit him out.
25:52
Speaker 2: I mean, you go back and watch the hits he
25:54
Speaker 2: took in college before he even got to the league,
25:56
Speaker 2: he was already on his way out. His body just
26:00
Speaker 2: been so beat up. And those were back in the
26:02
Speaker 2: day where like you know, you tear something in their shoulder,
26:03
Speaker 2: they just give you a shot, Like they're not giving
26:06
Speaker 2: you a surgery, right, They're gonna be like, no, you got
26:07
Speaker 2: to finish this season kind of deal back then. So Troy,
26:11
Speaker 2: I always joke I think he's one of the most
26:13
Speaker 2: overrated quarterbacks ever. But I think for that error, he
26:16
Speaker 2: was so perfect because he was a good quarterback, a
26:18
Speaker 2: good game manager, and he didn't need the accolades, right,
26:21
Speaker 2: Like he just never seem even nowadays, like he doesn't
26:24
Speaker 2: seem like he's got that type of ego where you know,
26:28
Speaker 2: some of their guys probably want to dealt with that
26:30
Speaker 2: great where he knows he's a punching bag, right, Like
26:32
Speaker 2: everyone talks about Emmett Smith like that's that's the guy
26:36
Speaker 2: from that team. So now he's the perfect perfect quarterback
26:39
Speaker 2: in that perfect era he would be In my opinion,
26:45
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say he'd be like a Minshew. I
26:47
Speaker 2: think he'd be worse than Minshew in this era, Like
26:49
Speaker 2: at least Minshew can get around. I know you think
26:52
Speaker 2: I'm a hater, do about that?
26:52
Speaker 1: That is absurd.
26:54
Speaker 2: I think that's how much harder and better it is
26:56
Speaker 2: nowadays to play like you have to be so much
26:59
Speaker 2: more athletic and smarter than you were in the nineties. Like, dude,
27:02
Speaker 2: the nineties literally ran two defenses. There were it's a joke,
27:06
Speaker 2: like you go back, sports used to be so dumb,
27:09
Speaker 2: where now it's so advanced. So I get where you're
27:12
Speaker 2: coming from. I just I can't read my head around
27:14
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman succeed in this league. I probably would have
27:17
Speaker 2: a fifth or six round grade.
27:18
Speaker 1: On the tray. Agman comp is brock perty.
27:23
Speaker 2: Fuck No, dude, brock Brady is a good athlete. Like
27:28
Speaker 2: I don't know what I know. It's because I'm coming
27:30
Speaker 2: off as a huge hater right now, when I think
27:32
Speaker 2: of him, it's just like, oh, man, I can't see
27:37
Speaker 2: him working out, like I just he doesn't have the tools.
27:40
Speaker 2: But again, that was your era. I could be way
27:42
Speaker 2: off here. I just I just can't see it.
27:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually that was my era. I covered that
27:48
Speaker 1: Cowboys team often. You couldn't be more off on Trey Agman.
27:54
Speaker 1: Do you care about the Summer Olympics and what is
27:58
Speaker 1: your favorite part?
28:00
Speaker 4: Uh?
28:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Summer Olympics. I mean as a man,
28:06
Speaker 2: my favorite thing to watch is definitely the volleyball if
28:10
Speaker 2: i'm women's volleyball, preferably. Uh. For sport wise, I don't know.
28:18
Speaker 2: It's tough is table tennis summer because I do love
28:21
Speaker 2: the table tennis? Yeah, Like I like all the stupid stuff,
28:24
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's gonna be
28:26
Speaker 2: track and field. Like the fastest man in the world
28:28
Speaker 2: that whole you saying, Bolt think too. I was so
28:30
Speaker 2: caught up that the swimming Michael Phelips, So definitely those
28:33
Speaker 2: type of sports. I just get all in on.
28:37
Speaker 1: Love the Summer Olympics. I think it's an amazing I
28:40
Speaker 1: think the pageantry is amazing, the sport that I've covered
28:44
Speaker 1: two summer Olympics and one year. I don't know if
28:51
Speaker 1: I've told this story. Matt Mitchell, knight yell at me
28:55
Speaker 1: if I start telling it again. Have I told the
28:57
Speaker 1: story about covering the Atlanta Olympics and the bombing. So
29:05
Speaker 1: ninety six, I'm working for Sports Illustrated. Sports Illustrated goes
29:09
Speaker 1: down and they're one of the Olympic sponsors, and we
29:12
Speaker 1: decided we're going to put out a daily magazine. So
29:14
Speaker 1: there's a staff of us that are covering sports during
29:18
Speaker 1: the day, writing about then, and like publishing the magazine
29:22
Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the morning, and it's being distributed
29:25
Speaker 1: throughout the throughout Atlanta. That that next day right full
29:30
Speaker 1: coverage of the Olympics SSI Quality SI Form SI magazine.
29:36
Speaker 1: And so I'm in the media center, which overlooks Centennial Park,
29:43
Speaker 1: and it's nearly deadline, and there's this massive boom, like
29:50
Speaker 1: you hear it, you feel it, you see light, and
29:54
Speaker 1: nobody knows what it is. At the time, I'm thinking
29:56
Speaker 1: to myself, that's weird. There was no we all knew
29:59
Speaker 1: what the weather was supposed to be every day. There's
30:00
Speaker 1: no rain forecast for today, and So then I start
30:05
Speaker 1: to walk out of our sort of newsroom into the
30:09
Speaker 1: main media center, and in my head, I'm really going
30:13
Speaker 1: to look over Centennial Park. At this point, there's like,
30:16
Speaker 1: you know, people buzzing that something had happened in Stanglo Park.
30:20
Speaker 1: So I'm leaving the newsroom to go to the cafeteria
30:25
Speaker 1: that overlooks Santanagalo Park and get to like be a
30:28
Speaker 1: gawker through the windows. The editor of the magazine looks
30:33
Speaker 1: at me and says, Chad, great idea. Take this cell phone,
30:38
Speaker 1: which is like a brick at this time. Take this
30:41
Speaker 1: cell phone. When you get into the park, call us
30:45
Speaker 1: back with the news of what's happening on the ground.
30:49
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I had no intention of
30:53
Speaker 1: going to the park. I had no intention of leaving
30:56
Speaker 1: the media center. But because I happened to be the
30:58
Speaker 1: first one to walk out so I could a gawk
31:01
Speaker 1: at what was happening in the park through the safety
31:04
Speaker 1: of the windows of the media center, the editor had
31:07
Speaker 1: to me a phone. I go downstairs. I'm at the park.
31:12
Speaker 1: I'm walking by what happens to be my hotel, which
31:14
Speaker 1: is right on the edge of the park, and I
31:16
Speaker 1: see a guy and his knee is busted wide open,
31:20
Speaker 1: and so like I he like, I sort of pull
31:24
Speaker 1: him into the hotel lobby, and of course I'm gonna
31:28
Speaker 1: interview him, but the cell phone at this point isn't working,
31:32
Speaker 1: and I want to call back to the newsroom to
31:34
Speaker 1: give an update to my editor, and so I have
31:37
Speaker 1: to go use a payphone. And when I'm using the payphone,
31:40
Speaker 1: I'm done with the call. I turn back around and
31:43
Speaker 1: all of the media is surrounding this dude in an
31:46
Speaker 1: informal press conference because I brought him back into the
31:51
Speaker 1: lobby of the fucking media hotel. So I lost my
31:55
Speaker 1: scoop and for the next decade, I see this guy's
31:58
Speaker 1: face in the middle of the This is CNN promos
32:02
Speaker 1: as like an action shot of him being interviewed after
32:05
Speaker 1: the bombing and Centennial Park. That's my Olympic story today.
32:09
Speaker 1: It's like Old Home Week. I got all the stories
32:12
Speaker 1: from like the last twenty thirty years.
32:14
Speaker 2: No, that's amazing story though, that's crazy.
32:18
Speaker 1: But weightlifting is an amazing sport. To attend an event,
32:22
Speaker 1: the intensity, the anxiety, the one moment these athletes have.
32:31
Speaker 1: They're in the dark for four years, they get one
32:34
Speaker 1: chance to do this. It is it raises your heart rate.
32:39
Speaker 1: It is so gut wrenching to watch. Fucking love it.
32:43
Speaker 1: Love the weightlifting stuff, it's so it's so good, so good,
32:48
Speaker 1: as well as the swimming and the gymnastics and the trial.
32:51
Speaker 2: Even the wrestling in the box and all of it.
32:53
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just you ever get the chance to
32:56
Speaker 2: go experience. I definitely believe go to the Olympics. You've
32:58
Speaker 2: ever seen some random game, It's all awesome.
33:00
Speaker 1: It's it's truly, it's it's it's magical. All right, let's
33:06
Speaker 1: see we went through interesting, interesting, interesting, Which one if
33:15
Speaker 1: your co host was a potato, how would he be prepared?
33:24
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, this is about the good. This is too sexual.
33:26
Speaker 2: I can't even think of anything as saying with that
33:28
Speaker 2: doesn't sound weird because I was gonna say, I don't know,
33:31
Speaker 2: it's stuff i'd stuff. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
33:35
Speaker 2: I don't know how to answer this one chat.
33:37
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be our grotten. You know.
33:45
Speaker 2: I like the Devil's lettuce, So I guess i'd be
33:47
Speaker 2: a baked potato a.
33:48
Speaker 1: Lot of flavor. I think it'd be fantastic. Okay, let's
33:55
Speaker 1: see if we got time for one more. Oh, okay,
34:01
Speaker 1: here's one. We had seth Rolins on the podcast. Yeah,
34:05
Speaker 1: before WrestleMania. We had that in early April. Someone said
34:09
Speaker 1: that was surprisingly fun. Thank you for the backhanded compliment,
34:12
Speaker 1: even though he isn't a pro sports figure in the
34:14
Speaker 1: classical definition. Who are some non sports figures we both
34:21
Speaker 1: love to interview on the show Non sports figures we'd
34:27
Speaker 1: love to interview on the show. This tough one.
34:30
Speaker 2: It is easy for me if you know I love comedy.
34:34
Speaker 2: It's you know, every day I'm like, how do I
34:37
Speaker 2: get out of bed today?
34:38
Speaker 1: Chat?
34:38
Speaker 2: You know, I say to myself to watch some comedy.
34:40
Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting up to go watch today. So
34:43
Speaker 2: it's it's everything, Like anytime I'm down, I know a
34:46
Speaker 2: lot of people like music that brings me other funk.
34:48
Speaker 2: For me, it's comedy. So anytime Chad wants to have
34:51
Speaker 2: a comedian on here, I would love it. But you know,
34:55
Speaker 2: the comedians that do sports bet not many of them
34:58
Speaker 2: talk about it. So the couple we do know about
35:01
Speaker 2: were it would definitely try to get him on here eventually.
35:03
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, my number one if if he
35:07
Speaker 2: still listens, Daniel Tosh, dude, come on here, We'll talk
35:10
Speaker 2: Miami football whatever you want. I mean, me and Chad
35:13
Speaker 2: will say two is the greatest quarterback ever. If that
35:15
Speaker 2: gets you on here, just just any comedian that sports
35:19
Speaker 2: bet I would love it because even talking about Ron's like,
35:22
Speaker 2: you could see he was a really diehard Bears fan.
35:24
Speaker 2: And that's what me and Chad like. We don't have
35:26
Speaker 2: to talk to just football experts. We talked to fans.
35:29
Speaker 2: It's just as fun, right, Like, at the end of
35:31
Speaker 2: the day, that's all of us are. It doesn't matter
35:33
Speaker 2: if you're the greatest expert in the world, you're gonna
35:35
Speaker 2: be a fan the end of the day. So yeah,
35:38
Speaker 2: I would go comedy for the next next person I
35:41
Speaker 2: had one on.
35:43
Speaker 1: I think Alfred Hitchcock would be really interesting.
35:47
Speaker 2: Would can't go wrong with that one.
35:50
Speaker 1: With that one, I wouldn't mind. Bono would be great.
35:56
Speaker 1: I'd love to have Bono on the show.
35:58
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't you kidding, asshole? Isn't he fuck that?
36:04
Speaker 1: I think he's so much more self aware now. I
36:08
Speaker 1: think he jokes about sort of.
36:11
Speaker 2: Putting all of his put his album on all of
36:13
Speaker 2: our iPhones.
36:14
Speaker 1: Like about his ego and his god complex, and I
36:17
Speaker 1: think he totally I think he totally makes fun, uh,
36:22
Speaker 1: makes fun of all that. But I like the idea
36:24
Speaker 1: of I like the idea of Hitchcock because he's so
36:30
Speaker 1: revolutionized a genre and would have the best freaking stories
36:35
Speaker 1: to tell about Hollywood that like at a time where
36:40
Speaker 1: I feel like everything went in a way that it
36:43
Speaker 1: doesn't today, and like that was a Ryebald time. Oh yeah,
36:53
Speaker 1: my wife would say comedy too. My wife's whenever my
36:57
Speaker 1: wife is in a bad mood. Uh, she like, she
37:03
Speaker 1: watches stand up comedy all the time. It's her favorite thing.
37:07
Speaker 1: And but whenever she's in a bad mood, she watches
37:11
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake Andy Samberg Dick in the Box. I can't
37:17
Speaker 1: tell you how many times I've walked in on her
37:20
Speaker 1: watching that and just laughing, and it puts in her
37:23
Speaker 1: much better.
37:23
Speaker 2: Mon just made me think of I saw a great
37:25
Speaker 2: before we go one last joke. I saw a roast
37:28
Speaker 2: and Andy Samberg was there, and the comedian said, I
37:32
Speaker 2: can't wait for Laura Michael's open casker funeral. So Andy
37:35
Speaker 2: Samberg and Justin timber they can sing Dick in the
37:37
Speaker 2: Box one more time.
37:41
Speaker 1: That's good.
37:42
Speaker 2: It was so Nicky Glazer.
37:44
Speaker 1: Oh she's she's great. Let's get Nicky Glazer on the show.
37:48
Speaker 2: I would love it. She's so damn smart and funny.
37:51
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