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The Age of Disclosure | L.A. Marzulli | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast. Hey everyone,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Today morning Zalez here in studio
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  Speaker 1: and we have our good friend La mar Zuli all
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  Speaker 1: the way from the undisclosed location in the Santa Monica
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  Speaker 1: Mountains with us. Welcome La.
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  Speaker 2: Always great to see you though great to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's been a lot going on over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and I thought it would
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  Speaker 1: be appropriate to chat with you because most people now
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  Speaker 1: or maybe some. That's one of the reasons why we're
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  Speaker 1: doing this is there's a new documentary outs called The
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  Speaker 1: Age of Disclosure, can be found on Prime Video and
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  Speaker 1: very well done for sure, almost a couple hours. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you've had an opportunity to see it. I've
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  Speaker 1: actually watched it twice so far. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is going to be very interesting. It'll
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. Maybe your initial thoughts on do you think
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  Speaker 1: this will be impactful or do you think it'll just
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  Speaker 1: be ignored.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna it's gonna hopefully it will go
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  Speaker 2: far and wide. Hopefully pastors will sit down and watch it.
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  Speaker 2: They need to. It's and I've been telling everybody on
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  Speaker 2: my daily program. You need to watch Agent Disclosure. Spend
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  Speaker 2: my twenty dollars watch it. Invite your family, your kids,
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  Speaker 2: your grandkids, whatever. Invite as many people people need to
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  Speaker 2: see this. Challenge your pastor to see it because this film.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, hats off to Dan Farrah, and I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to interview them, and I'm sure you would too.
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  Speaker 2: But this film is unprecedented because Farah sits down with
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  Speaker 2: you know, Congression, congressmen, Congress women, people that are involved
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  Speaker 2: with government, military, CI, I mean, every the whole gamut.
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  Speaker 2: And that begs the question, how does this guy get
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  Speaker 2: access to all this? And how are these guys coming
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  Speaker 2: on the record and spilling the beans? Yes, see everything. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's complex here. The late check Missler would
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  Speaker 2: call it, and I agree with him, a managed agenda,
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  Speaker 2: and I would agree. I think that's exactly what we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at. It is a manager agenda. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 2: in my mind that that's what we're looking at. This
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  Speaker 2: is deliberate, it's ongoing. What's happening in Congress is deliberate.
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  Speaker 2: It's ongoing. Again, it's a managed agenda. The needle really
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  Speaker 2: doesn't move too much as a one who's followed this,
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  Speaker 2: this parody of this, the whole UFO ufology for decades,
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing new here for me, you know, because I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing this for decades. Nothing new. But what is
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  Speaker 2: new is the fact that all these people are on
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  Speaker 2: board and telling and in the beginning of the film,
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  Speaker 2: we're not alone. Cut to another person, We're not alone.
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  Speaker 2: Cut to another person, We're not alone in the universe. Cut,
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  Speaker 2: And they do this like what eight ten, fifteen, people whatever,
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  Speaker 2: all parodying the same line, We're not alone in the universe.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, you know, Admiral Golladette says something which I
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  Speaker 2: find incredible. This is no it's Chris Mellen who says it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the U, this is the this is going
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  Speaker 2: to change humanities are forever. This is the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened. And in some ways he's right.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but you know, you know where I
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  Speaker 2: stand on all this, and from a as a biblical literalist,
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  Speaker 2: someone who's looking at prophecy, this is this is a
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  Speaker 2: coming great deception. This is a strong delusion.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why it's important for us, and one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons that again we talk about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've done you and I Gary, We've done programs on
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  Speaker 1: all DVD sets all this, and you know, certainly as
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  Speaker 1: a pastor for many years, I think about these conversations
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  Speaker 1: that I'd have with people again just you know, typical
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  Speaker 1: Christian in a lay person and said, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do you think there's life outside of universe? It brings
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  Speaker 1: up you know, you know what about the UFOs? Where
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  Speaker 1: are they from? Different things? It brings up a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of questions, which as Christians we want to do
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  Speaker 1: our best to have answers for as much as we can.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just say up front that as we
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  Speaker 1: discuss some of this, I think of dude only twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine twenty the secret things belong to the Lord, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but those things he has revealed, he's revealed to us,
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  Speaker 1: and there ares to search out, you know Proverbs twenty
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  Speaker 1: five to two, Right, God conceal its to God's glory
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  Speaker 1: to conceal the matter. It's it's the glory of kings
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  Speaker 1: to seek it out. So it's to our glory and
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  Speaker 1: enrichment to seek out and squeeze out as much as
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  Speaker 1: we can with the hints that we see in scripture
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  Speaker 1: obviously not to make too much of them, but also
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  Speaker 1: not to make too little of them. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: balance that we have. I think too, that these are
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal questions that are coming up. Again, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: you have all these professionals, these career military people or
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  Speaker 1: political people that are coming out saying, I think about
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  Speaker 1: that phrase, we're not alone in the universe. And so
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  Speaker 1: you have this idea of disclosure being put out here
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  Speaker 1: now for some people that are like, well, unless a
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  Speaker 1: current president or suddenly somebody else says that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to believe it, well that's fine. But the fact
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  Speaker 1: of the matter is there are dozens he interviews dozens
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  Speaker 1: of people who are involved in all these things. So
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  Speaker 1: what it does is it brings to the forefront. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what I want to talk about, is it
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  Speaker 1: brings up questions, theological questions which I want to get
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  Speaker 1: to eventually. But here we have right at the right
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  Speaker 1: at the forefront. You wrote a book, The Rungs of Disclosure,
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  Speaker 1: which it's it's almost like he followed, Yeah, it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like he followed your outline of what you almost from
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen on. And so what you haven't written for him.
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  Speaker 1: This is in a certainly in a film forum, and obviously,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, able to interview many of these key people, senators,
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  Speaker 1: you know, defense, intelligence agencies, et cetera, which again very
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  Speaker 1: very powerful. So let's let's come out right at the front.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that this movie, it's called The Age
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  Speaker 1: of Disclosure, it's giving again documented it going back you know,
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  Speaker 1: many many years. Do you think this, this movie itself
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  Speaker 1: is one of the one of the acts of disclosure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this, this movie, I think is a twenty fifth
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  Speaker 2: rung on the ladder of disclosure. Can go to runs
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  Speaker 2: Ofdisclosure dot com and you can see the rungs that
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  Speaker 2: are there, and I think it's number twenty five because
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  Speaker 2: what he's done, and you're right, it parallels the book
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  Speaker 2: Runs of Disclosure. But and that's not am I accusing
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  Speaker 2: him in any way, shape or form of playgaris or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. No, I mean, just look at what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. There was a progression from twenty seventeen to
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  Speaker 2: you know, just the release was last Friday, the day
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  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving. So look, something is going on and all
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  Speaker 2: these people are seeing, you know, congressmen, the government officials,
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  Speaker 2: CIA people, I mean the whole, the whole deal. Right,
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  Speaker 2: They're saying we're not alone in the universe. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with him, we're not alone. But what are
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  Speaker 2: these entities? Because these entities are visiting us. And what
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  Speaker 2: bothered me about the film is they never ever touched
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  Speaker 2: on the dark side of this thing. They never looked
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  Speaker 2: at the counter mutilations. They never look at the abduction phenomenon. Never.
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  Speaker 2: They never looked at the highbridgs, doctor David Jacobs walking
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  Speaker 2: amongst us when we cover that in our you know,
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  Speaker 2: my business partner, Gills zimmer Man, we have you know,
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  Speaker 2: ten films on this. I know you guys sell this.
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  Speaker 2: And there by the way, is the the comberg As
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  Speaker 2: UFO best UFO ever in my opinion, because you see
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  Speaker 2: the beings right there. So Lewis is a glare on
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  Speaker 2: the package. So you're going to have to maybe Twer
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  Speaker 2: can throw that at it, because I know he's got it.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the best UFO footage I've ever seen, taken
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  Speaker 2: by the late doctor Roger Leir over Lake Comberghas in Turkey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, years ago, and you can see the beings
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  Speaker 2: inside the craft and that craft is sitting there for hours,
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  Speaker 2: literally for hours. So it's like you know, they paint
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  Speaker 2: this picture. Well, the technology and the back engineering. It
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  Speaker 2: goes back to Babblezaar in the nineties who claimed to
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  Speaker 2: be doing that at S four Area fifty one. S
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  Speaker 2: four back engineering the propulsion system for you know, crash retrieval.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when you start going down there looking at
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  Speaker 2: the rungs and you start looking at like Philip Corso's
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  Speaker 2: book Day After Roswell, when you look at Walter g
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  Speaker 2: hot I got you did a program on this his
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  Speaker 2: death bed affidavit, which may or may not be a
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  Speaker 2: construct typical. We still we really don't know did he
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  Speaker 2: write that or did he just sign his name on it,
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  Speaker 2: or was it you know, given by somebody else to bolster.
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  Speaker 2: We have no idea and nowaday I, we really have
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  Speaker 2: no idea. What Manda, were you real? Am I looking
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  Speaker 2: at Ai right? This is where we are. So the
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  Speaker 2: bottom line is these entities have been visiting us a
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  Speaker 2: quote Derek Gilbert for thousands of years. We both know
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  Speaker 2: that they have, But what are they really? Are they
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  Speaker 2: the Onanaki which a lot of new agers hold on to, Well,
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  Speaker 2: you can call them whenever you want to call them,
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  Speaker 2: but then noaki are just another name, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: to fallen angels. And these entities have been interacting with
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  Speaker 2: mankind literally for thousands and thousands of years. Native Americans
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  Speaker 2: primitive culture, like in Africa, Australia. Why I say a
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  Speaker 2: primitive culture, that's sort of a derogatory word, people who
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  Speaker 2: don't have modern conveniences. Let's say go back one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty years, very primitive, still kind of living in
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  Speaker 2: what we would call the Stone Age, which is fine,
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  Speaker 2: but they had a very robust culture and they had
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  Speaker 2: things work well. They talk about the sky gods. Australia,
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  Speaker 2: Native Americans and Africa all over the globe talk about
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  Speaker 2: the sky gods coming down, taking the women to wherever
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  Speaker 2: I heard that before, and you know, doing other things
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  Speaker 2: with them. Look at the Citika which nevamitrail of nephilame here.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, Sarah and Amaka talks about the Citika
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  Speaker 2: coming into the villages and taking the children and eating
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  Speaker 2: them and raping the women. I mean, it's everywhere, it's ubiquitous.
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  Speaker 2: It's a global phenomenon. But all that to say this,
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  Speaker 2: we are being visited. What are they? They're not extraterrestrials,
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  Speaker 2: including the Ananaki. They are fallen angels which have the
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  Speaker 2: ability to shape shift, appear as an angel of light
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  Speaker 2: or whatever else they want to appear as. And it's
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  Speaker 2: all about to see Gary Steerman Genesis three fifteen. They
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  Speaker 2: have been creating hybrids literally for I would say thousands
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  Speaker 2: of yours.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I want, I want to get to
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  Speaker 1: some of the biblical ramifications, probably you know, in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but let's let's let's kind of lay some
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  Speaker 1: groundwork here because one of the things that you see
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  Speaker 1: going back to twenty seventeen and kind of the start
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  Speaker 1: of the disclosure movement. You know, lou Elizondo's a major
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  Speaker 1: figure in the film No Doubt worked for a tip
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  Speaker 1: which it's it's important for people to understand a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these these acronyms, you know UAP, you know, unidentified
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  Speaker 1: anomalist phenomena or era of the phenomena. You get that,
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  Speaker 1: which kind of replaced the UFO terminology. You have others totally.
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  Speaker 2: Delivered yep, yep, all day long.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. They they try to remove themselves from When you
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  Speaker 1: say phenomenon, that doesn't always necessarily mean physical, where an
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  Speaker 1: object does or you have a USO unidentified submerged object
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  Speaker 1: things coming out of the ocean. So they talk about
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  Speaker 1: all these things. But one of the things that they
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  Speaker 1: talk in the front their la which I thought was helpful, is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the research of a TIP or the
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  Speaker 1: US you know, you know, our UAP task force. So
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  Speaker 1: you have these different groups which are at least allegedly
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  Speaker 1: okay on the forefront of investigating these projects and trying
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  Speaker 1: to understand what has been happening since the nineteen forties.
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  Speaker 1: So early on they begin to bring up this phraseology
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  Speaker 1: called the Legacy Program, and so talk about that what
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  Speaker 1: it is, and talk about how it operates independently of
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  Speaker 1: what we understand is direct congressional or presidential even oversight.
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  Speaker 2: This goes back in nineteen forty seven at the crash
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  Speaker 2: in Roswell, and you know, people have come up and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna disparage anybody. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: name names. Believe what you want to believe. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care at this point. You know, go out, go out
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  Speaker 2: to the debris field and bring back some metal and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll talk. Okay, because we've done that, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: both sick. Gil Zimerman and I, Chuck Sakowski, Frank Kimbler,
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  Speaker 2: we went out to the debris field and Chuck and
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  Speaker 2: Frank warrock up. We're the only film company according to Chucksakowski.
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  Speaker 2: I could be corrected here, but according to Chuck, we're
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  Speaker 2: the only film company on record to every show a
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  Speaker 2: piece of the metal coming up out of the ground.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. Nobody else has done that. And we've had
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  Speaker 2: an analyzed and it's an aluminum alloy, but it's in
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  Speaker 2: between two known illuminum maloys. And we've been to three
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  Speaker 2: different labs with three different pieces of the metal. They
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  Speaker 2: all said the same thing. Well, it's an aluminum alloy,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't match anything that we have. More testing
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  Speaker 2: needs to be done. Roswell was a crash five oh night,
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  Speaker 2: a deliberate crash in my opinion. There's a there's a
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  Speaker 2: clip I think it's putav that says it. In the
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  Speaker 2: film Agent Disclosure. He talks about that some of the
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  Speaker 2: craft were actually deliberately crashed as gifts. You know, where
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  Speaker 2: where have I heard that before? You go back to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight and I'm writing, you know, nepheline the
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  Speaker 2: truth is here, and I'm talking to the late David Flynn,
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  Speaker 2: and I remember coming up to the line and going,
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  Speaker 2: sounds really weird. Man, I don't know, And I said, Dave, David,
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  Speaker 2: is it possible that they actually deliberately crashed the UFO
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  Speaker 2: at Roswell? And he said, yeah, I know what you mean,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a it's a strong possibility, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: I believe. So I'm not saying and it's because we
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, you know, you can't sit down
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  Speaker 2: with a fallen angel and go excuse me. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: with Bel's abub and thanks for joining us today, mister
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  Speaker 2: b uh your secret. I mean, it's like, you know, man,
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  Speaker 2: they're ever gonna happened, So this is like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're piling it on if it is. Look, Jesse Marcel
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  Speaker 2: Senior was there in the debris field. He saw the wreckage,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a skip site. So the craft. I got
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  Speaker 2: all these props on my desk. The craft comes in
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  Speaker 2: and skips, It hits the ground and skips. That's where
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Marcel saw. That's where the wreckage is. But then
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  Speaker 2: the craft goes another you know, fifteen seventeen miles and
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  Speaker 2: that's the site where the craft was retrieved and the bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Marcel never saw the craft. Marcel Senior never saw the bodies,
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  Speaker 2: but Walter g Hout did and that was his Deathbend
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  Speaker 2: confession as well as other people did. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: what are we really looking at here? And we don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but that that was the moment in time where they
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  Speaker 2: actually came out with a press conference press release. R
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  Speaker 2: AAF retrieves flying disc July eighth, July ninth. No, nothing
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  Speaker 2: to see here. It's a a weather balloon. And to
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  Speaker 2: think that Jesse Marcel Senior would mistake a weather balloon
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  Speaker 2: for and this is the picture says it all right there,
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  Speaker 2: look at the body language, look at his eyes as
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  Speaker 2: he's holding a weather balloon. It's like in the film Exoneration.
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  Speaker 2: We have a clip that Jesse Marcel's back at the
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  Speaker 2: debris field decades later. He's an old man now obviously
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  Speaker 2: it is in his old age, be tired and he goes,
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  Speaker 2: they wanted me to get up and talk to the press.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not what I did, That's not what I was.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do that. And till Jim Raimi told everybody
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  Speaker 2: it was a weather balloon and he looks right at
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  Speaker 2: the camera and he goes, but we both knew differently.
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  Speaker 2: It fuck, you know, it's like seriously, but we both
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  Speaker 2: knew different And why does he say that? Because his
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  Speaker 2: he was he's a Lee Harvey Oswald of ufology and
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  Speaker 2: he really is. He's the patsy, he's the fall guy. Well,
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  Speaker 2: nothing here to think that, Marcel Senior. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is like a three hour conversation and it's oh, that's
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  Speaker 2: what we have a whole film on it. That the
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  Speaker 2: intelligence officer of the five zero ninth bombing Group would
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  Speaker 2: somehow be Elmer Fudd. It ain't gonna happen. The five
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  Speaker 2: oh ninth is the premiere, premier bombing group and the
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  Speaker 2: entire world. They're the guys that dropped the bomb, the
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  Speaker 2: autom bomb on a Rosha Man Nangasaki, and they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: hand us over to Elmer Fudd. No way, no way.
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  Speaker 2: This guy was trained, knew everything that was out there,
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  Speaker 2: everything that was out there, everything, and the thing that
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  Speaker 2: he would mistake a weather balloon, which he handled and
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  Speaker 2: saw every day while on the base in Roswell of
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  Speaker 2: Mexico for craft for pieces of metal from an unknown
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  Speaker 2: world is patently absurd, and that starts, that starts to
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  Speaker 2: cover up, and then you get the crash retrieval teams.
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  Speaker 2: You get allegedly with Eisenhower where he goes missing with
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  Speaker 2: the dental thing, classic Wag the dog. I just love it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. Right, was there a quid pro quo?
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  Speaker 2: Just like the Book of Not. See when Jesus says
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  Speaker 2: it will be like the days of Noah. We'll read
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  Speaker 2: the Book of Not when the fallen angels come down
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  Speaker 2: as a quid pro quo, they just can't go in
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  Speaker 2: and take the women. They have to have permission. Now
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  Speaker 2: that's a little bit conjecture on my on my part,
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  Speaker 2: but there's this quick pro go, hey, we'll give you
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  Speaker 2: the technology, we'll show you how to make these great
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  Speaker 2: spears and bow and arrows. Just give us access to
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  Speaker 2: the babe. Yeah, and so so that's that's what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it happened with Eisenhower, I really do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's that's there was a they got access
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to the population and that you see right after right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: you get this is this is the sequence. And it's
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: really important you get this because in forty five you
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: get hiroshiamn Nagasaki forty seven, just you know, not that
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: far because you know it's like it's July and forty
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: seven when Musa and one was Nagasaki, I think towards
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: late summer, early fall, not that far away. So all
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you get, you get, you get forty
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: five Nagasaki Roshima forty seven, the roswell event right forty
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: eight is will becomes a nation. It's it's it's all
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: very very compact. And then the entire UFO phenomena as
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: we know it takes off. That's when the whole thing
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: starts happening. In the fifties, catamutilations, abductions, the sightings go
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: through the room. There's a flyby right over the Capitol.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with that? Right, you get
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the Benny and Benny and Barney Hill, the first abduction
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that we hear about, right, and then you get the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: and see, unless you're really studying this stuff, you don't
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: understand that there's been generations now that's gone by since
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: since the forty seven Roswell crash, and so you know
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you talk about the legacy, well, they've been doing this stuff.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: The back engineering the stuff that that babozar Ta talks
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: about the stuff that Philip Corso talks about Theay after
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Roswell other researchers. The back engineering has been going on
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: for decades, justs no congressional oversight. And some of this
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: stuff was sent and Rubio talks about it in the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: film Marco Rubio talks about it in the film. So
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you get this elected official here and he hands off
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a piece of you know, technology to let's say, Raytheon.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Raytheon begins to back engineer it. So eight years go by,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: this guy's gone. New guy comes up, has no idea
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that Raytheon's got this stuff. That's how that's how the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: game is played. There's no congressional oversight. This is why
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: when Nancy Mays and I think it was anapoline a
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Luna together. I think they were together with this, I'm
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: not sure. So it's either one or the other or both.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And they go, well, we want to see this, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: some non elected official comes up and goes, no, you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: can't see this. This is this is classified. This national
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: security And I write this in the Neflic trilogy. This
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: was a national security that's the overroxing umbrella. That goes
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: into what you had for lunch two weeks ago. That's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: national security. We can't tell you if it you had
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a cheeseburger. Sorry, that's classified information. And you don't have
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a no, and they need to I need to know. So,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is how the game is placed. It's unbelievable.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So there is no congressional oversight. Now, before I've done
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: this rant, I'll say it again here. I have been
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: saying this over and over and over again. What needs
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to happen is our President Donald J. Trump needs to
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: write an executive order and get five hundred of the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: best of the best of the best. Send two fifty
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the Marines, these the seals, I mean the whole the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: whole crew embedded with Congressman, Congress Movement, and senators, the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: whole deal press conference. Two fifty go to Wright Patterson Field.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Two fifty go to Area fifty one. Excuse me, go,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: this is an executive order from your president. We're coming
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in right now. We want to see everything. Now if
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: they do that, I mean, the American people are going
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to flip. Why are you even halting us for decades?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Because they have been hiding it for decades. Jackie Gleeson.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I believe one of the few presidents, this is a conjecture,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: one of the few presidents ever to go in the area.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Fifty one was probably Richard Dixon, and he took Jackie
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Gleeson with him, and of course the Inquirer did a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: hold spread on it, right, But Gleason ain't lying, And
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I think he saw the bodies from Roswell because that's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's where they are either there or right
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: pat that's we don't know, but or maybe both. Who knows, right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: But they're there. They're absolutely there. And see this is
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: this is problematic that they know. You know, you talk
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: about the legacy, this this secret government, kobal whatever you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: want to call it, but it's not. They're not elected officials.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So there is a shadow government. And you know, back
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in the nineties and even in the two thousands, you
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: got too close, you were taken out. You got too close,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: you were threatened, you were taken out. And I've been
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: threatened because of our work. I'm the candorhart Giant. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: was threatened by a guy for Deep State. He's not
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you know, he had his badge the whole deal. He
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: showed me this stuff. But why am I being threatened
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: for exposing something? Why are you so threatened that? You know?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: The shooter came to us and then we filmed it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and talked about the candorhar giant. Why are you so afraid? Why? Why?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Why can't the American people know about this? Oh? Because
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: it hells back to a biblical prophetic narrative. Is that
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: what you're so afraid of? You know, because this is
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: just a tip of the iceberg, and when we start
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: panning back, we realize that you've been hiding all this
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: stuff for decades.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, it's I find it fascinating where you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the film they kind of the way they shared
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: at least was and I encourage people to watch the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: film in the sense that this was one of the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: major exposures beginning really twenty seventeen of the Legacy program.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And what I found helpful was, you know, again, you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: see all this you know over the years again and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I've been looking at this for a long time as well,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: but to see it come together in a very nice
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: organized way where you have really going back again to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the late forties and fifties when the CIA was established,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and not only that, but to have the CIA at
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the top, you got the Department of Energy. Over here
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you've got basically the US Air Force, and then you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: have the Department basically the Intelligence Department underneath all of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: them under the CA, and then below that you have
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the defense contractors, who now are private. And it was
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: interesting too because one of the things that you see
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: again the Foyer FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act, you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: bill that they're like, well, hey, we're having to expose
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: some of these things, and so now let's just put
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it under Let's put all that information under maybe a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Department of Energy classification, which is a little bit different.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Let's put it under there, put it under Defense contractors.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Now nobody gets to see anything. I found it. It
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was interesting too that you and I discussed this a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, where in twenty seventeen, December of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, where the Sun Online put in a Foyer
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: request and they were able to get all of the information,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: or at least thousands of pages of information from the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a TIP program which operated which Loue ali Zonda was
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in from two thousand and seven to twenty twelve, so
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to see all that come out, and we discussed this
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: when that report came out where you have again you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: have that which is public, and then you have this
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: shadow basically these shadow agencies, these deep state agencies who
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: are working behind the scenes. Again, that's the legacy project
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that they're exposing now that these whistleblowers are coming out
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to say, look, there's groups that have no oversight. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: one of the things that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: When you say legacy, you know what is a legacy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It starts here and then it's handed down, then handed
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: down and handed down and handed down again. So it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a legacy of confidential, top secret information that is not
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: controlled by our government.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: No. And see, that's the important thing is that this
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: stuff is coming out where they you know, these these
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: whistleblowers and others information, especially again from twenty seventeen on
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: with Framer and others on Tucker and different things. We're
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: starting to see that and that kind of began. Of course,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you know, you document it in your book, but in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that report, in that a Tip report that became public.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I found fascinating was,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and it makes kind of a connection, is you have
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: these people a tip who are researching things, and again,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: how they can only reveal so much because obviously there
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: was they got the non classified stuff. There was more
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: stuff that certainly not. But in the stuff that was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: unclassified and given out, you have radiation burns, you have
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: other kind of injuries, you have a duck, you have
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: unaccounted for pregnancies, all the things that again are not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: None of this is new to eupologists who have been
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: watching us, or even Christians who happened to be euthologists
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like yourself, who are studying this for a long time.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: None of this is new. But to have it put
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: out there, we've moved beyond now the tinfoil hat, the stigma.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They spend a lot of time in the film talking
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: about the stigma, and this is this is where I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: think unfortunately la the church. You know, the church is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: called to preach the gospel. Amen, let's do it. That's
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the most important thing, of course of all. But oftentimes
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the church, and this is well known when you look
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: at missiology or other forms of study, the church is
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: often behind the times in addressing issues. And this is
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: why I think it's important for us, not that we're
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: calling people not to preach the gospel. Yes, Jesus' Lord,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: he died for our sins through his death redrorection.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: We can be stated, that's that's paramount.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So that's why we're here. Yeah, but now the news
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: is talking about these things and the Christians sitting there,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and they're sitting there with the unbeliever, and the other
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: unbeliever says, hey, what do you think about that? And
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go, I don't know, it's just all demons. Okay,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. The church is ill equipped,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: which is what we're trying to do here is to say, listen,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: this is important information. It's becoming mainstream. It is mainstream.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: The church has to be ready. So what's wrong LA
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with just throwing a demon label on everything? That's just demonic?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Like they mentioned this, let me just give me, give
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: me about thirty seconds here in the film, there's a
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: potential to read it wrong. They Lou Alezando discusses where
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they're talking him and a couple others talking about how
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: indepentagon you have Christian fundamentalists, right, you are resisting Lou
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Alizondo and others efforts to bring disclosure and say you're
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: poking the devil here. This is all debonic. You need
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to leave it a well what's wrong with that statement
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and what's true about it and what isn't true about it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe let's discuss that for a moment.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Sure, well, that would go into the Collins Elite, which
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: is a very dark book by the way, Nick Redfern
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: wrote it, and it's not for the fan of heart,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: very very dark book. But he's right, and he's done
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a deep dive. And you know, bully for Nick for
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: writing that book. But there's a group allegedly within the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: confines of our government, the Colins Elite, who are saying
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that don't don't even go there, don't talk about any
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: of this. This is all demonic, this this type of stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And they're right, You're totally right that it is demonic.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I get that. But they need to they need to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: sit down and get a bigger picture and understand what
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: is happening here, and they need to tie it into
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the biblical prophetic narrative where Jesus Warnos will be like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the days of Noah when he returns. Well, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: you go about two thousand years ago month. Everybody knows
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: what he's talking about. Two thousand years ago. You know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: if the knucklehead Julius Africanus wasn't even alive then, So
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: if the sep fite theory wasn't wasn't run up on
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the theological flag pole as it were. Nobody knew the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: set fite theory because you know, the knucklehead wasn't around
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to invent it. That's a couple hundred years later. So
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: everybody knows of a nephilem mobe like a day said Noah. Oh,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: by the way, Josephus talks about the bodies the bones
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of a nephilee openly on display at the time when
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Jesus is walking around, so nobody knows what he's talking about.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: There is no Cephite theory doesn't exist. So they know
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: about the seed, they know about benephylene, the giants, the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: offspring of fallen angels. Everybody's on the same page. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: now it gets all obtuscated. Augustine comes in. Everything could spiritualize.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: We go into the dark ages. Nobody can read the Bible.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Remember ten Dales burned at the steak for translating a
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Bible in English. Let that just sink in. Okay, we're
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: at the flip and stake for translating the Bible in English.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: It's hard to believe. But that's you know, I can't
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: be reading that, and so everything is you know, is
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: hidden away from the common man has no idea what's
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: going on till fourteen forty four with Gutenberg and the crew,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: and then now all of a sudden, you know, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: can start to read it. But even then it's like
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: decades before someone like Darby gets a hold and starts
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: looking at the passages that we read in you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: First Concian fifteen fifty two, or you know, First Thessalonians
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: four sixteen. There I showed you a mystery. Sonato sleep,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the rapture, the idea of being taken out, he didn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and that, and he just had access to the scripture
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: and was able to read it. Hey, look I found
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty amazing because you know, people weren't
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: allowed to look at it. They were burned at the steak.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: We're doing stuff, so I've gone three different rabbit trails,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to get back to what the actual
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: quester was and Mando, I hate to say it, but
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I'm completely lost.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's okay, because well what I see is again, well,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: oftentimes we get stuck on words and against specificity demonic
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: You think did demonic see demonica just in our modern language,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: we really just mean a that's evil. Well okay, well
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that's fine, But demonic also has the specific thing as
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: related to a demon, A a immaterial, non physical, unclean
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: spirit as we see in the Gospels, never being physical
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that ever, they they they try to possess things. These
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: are non physical things. So that's the issue, LA is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: when you have these people, these these officials coming on
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and saying these are physical craft, you obviously have just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: showed us a piece you have. We've seen biological entities.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You see David Grush mentioning that in his testimony before Congress. Uh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you got beings that are that are at four, four
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: bodies at Roswell, other bodies different times, different places, different governments.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So you can't just say, oh, that's a demon. Well
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that does even make any sense at all, because demons
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: are immaterial, they're non tangible. So then no, they might
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: be evil. Okay, but see this brings up I'm trying
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to push a little bit.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me jump in, let me jump
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in here. And I was trying to circle around that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So if a church has no idea really of what
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: when Jesus says to be like the days of Noah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and then he goes, you know, don't be deceived. Many
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: will come in my name, manimal fame and fear for
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is coming upon the earth. Unless those days were shortened,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: no flush which survive. And that's a kind of a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'm paying with a very broad brush here, And this
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is the problem to Colins elite. They're putting everything into
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the demonic umbrella. They're partially right, but demons, as you
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: just said, are a disembodied spirits of a nepheleine. They're
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: without bodies, so they have to possess a human being,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: an animal, or an object in order to manifest. Fallen
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: angels do not. They are immortal entities which can pop
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: in and out of this dimension. They can manipulate space,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: matter and energy in ways that defy our physics. And remember,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they can appear as an angel of light for starters,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: but they can appear as your dead grandmother if they
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: want to. They can appear as a mighty angel with
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you know, with purple robes and a crown and shining
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: armor and a flaming sword, and that they could do
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: anything that they want to. Medicice's modesty. I got that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: from us this dark So the dragon Satan knows that
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: he's got all these demons which are earthbound, and he
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: says to himself, Hmm, this is congeesture, but it's based
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: on decades of research. I need to create an avatar
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: for these bodies to inhabit. Now, how did I get here?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I'm reading Whitney Streeber's book Communion and other books by Streaber,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and in that he talks about on the ship opening
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: up a drawer and seeing the grays stacked up like this.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Other people talk about the grays right like chairs being
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: stack like this, one on top of each other. Karen
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Wilkinson her book Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest, which, by the way,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of course, shameless plug what we publish it, and Karen
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is one of the speakers as you are in our
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: virtual conference on January sixteenth of the seventeenth. Karen talks
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: about seeing the grays their meat suits. So think about it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: He creates an avatar and wait about songs preposterous blah
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. That's because the church has this
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: dumbed down idea of what the supernatural world is you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we're looking at something that's that. Satan has been cooking
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: this thing up for who knows how long, and he
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: knows he's got the demons, thousands of them. He just
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: creates the meat suits. They go into the meat suits,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the avatars, and those are the grays. I mean, the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: grays are really weird because and this is why you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: can crash the saucer in Roswell and dispose of four bodies.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Who cares? Right? Who cares? Because they're not really there.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: The demons just leave. They have a slip for a mouth.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's no digestive system at all, no reproductive system.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: They're avatars, their meat suits. How many times do I
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: have to hear it from Whitley Stever, Karen Wilkinson and others,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Al Matthews and others who have Emil Jerrick and all
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the other abductees I've ever talked to talk about the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: same thing. So the Church has this truncated view of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the supernatural and what they don't. You can't put this
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: whole phenomena under the monological stuff. Yes it's part of it,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: but these are fallen angels. The craft is nuts and bolts,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: it's real. How do we know that right here we
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: get a piece of the metal, but the craft are real.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And when you read tewod Kings chapter six, Thank you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Mondo Gonzalez. We've talked about this. What's above the Syrian army?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: You tell me? So Ghazi gets booted out of it
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: ten from Elisha and you know, open his eyes, lord
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and go housey all of a sudden con see into
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the supernatural world. And what does he see above the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Syrian army? I looked up and saw a chariot of fire.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Chariots plural of fire, you know, above the Syrian army.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: These are UFOs, that's what they are. You can tap
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: dance around that to the cows come home. Gary Steerman's encounter.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: So the good guys have him to the bad guys
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: have you say, well, why do they need that? Look,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: we have this much of a picture which is really broad.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Let's just before I go off this topic. That's why
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you can't put Oh, it's all themonic and it's much
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: more of a nut. When you've talked about this, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: when you get Daniel, it's remember the late Chuck Messler
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: talking about this. It's one of the few places in
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the Biblical prophetic narrative where we get a window into
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the unseen realm quoting Mikeuys with the Unseen Real great book.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: By the way, that's off, doctor Mike. So when you
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: look at that, you get this angel that's dispatched Daniel praise.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Twenty one days later, the angel shows up. He goes, hey,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I was dispatched, and I would I would have been
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: here sooner, but I got held by held up by
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the Prince of Persia. I had to go got Mike
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and the boys, and Mike came and they fought. Oh
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: that's a three hour discussion. They're not thumb wrestling up there, guys.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: They're not going one, two, three, shoot, Okay, I he
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: can go now. No, they're fighting. Can angels be killed? No,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: they're immortal beings. Can they be wounded? That's a three
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: hour discussion. In my opinion, they can be wounded, because
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: we know in Revelation Michael and the boys fight with
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the devil and his age and the booter out of
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the second even I call it the Great Eviction. Notice,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: what are they fighting with? Something? He overcomes? They have
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: to be they have to They can't be killed. But
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: can they be wounded? Yeah? Very possible. We don't know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We know that the nephelem in order to kill them.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: This is conjecture. Why do you think David cuts off
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Goliath's head because they know the only way to kill
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: these things is to decapitate them. If you just wound them,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: they'll they'll regenerate. Conjecture. But that's what I think is
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: going on. So you get this idea, uh from from
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Daniel that this the spiritual war is there? Well, why
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: can't why can't the angel do an end run? Why
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: does he have to go through the Prince of Persia?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Three hour discussion. Who knows? We don't know, We don't know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: The craft are real. Technology in the Bible is real.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: One of my probably my next book with Charisma will
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: be a supernatural Technology of the Bible. And one of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: those chapters is om the Second Kings, chapter six. There's
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: something there. There's a chariot of fire above the Syrian
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: army and that's technology. It's technology that's unbeknownst to us,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: or is it? Or do the good guys have them?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one more story. Pastor Matt Freeman told
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: me this on the record. He said he was he
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: was on a plane trip, a short little hopper from
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: ok City to like Austin or something like that. So
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: it's like a one hour, one hour trip, and he says, Lord,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: can I see one of the good guys? Can I?
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Can I see what what are what the craft looks like?
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: What the angels have? Can I? So he takes off
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and he's on a window seat and he doesn't see anything,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and the plane's about to land, plans coming in for
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: a landing like this. He's going, Lord, you know, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Lord just said be patient, Matt, be patient his words.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So he's looking he's like this and at the window
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: looking out coming at him is a UFO just like this,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and it flies right underneath the wing. Gary Steerman, Gary
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Steerman flying along like this, and that plane would have
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: crashed and Gary would be dead. Gary said on the records,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the most beautiful thing he's ever seen, the most beautiful
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: thing he's ever seen. So, you know, we have this.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: This is why it really needs to come out. And
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I mean we're sitting on all this information and these
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: congressmen and congresswoman for the most part. You know, if
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: you talk to someone like lou Ela is Ondi, you're
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: gonna get his paradigm. But if talk to someone like
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: me who's been in this for like decades, you're going
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: to get what I believe is the truth behind the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: whole thing. Not only is it the monic, this is
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: phone and angel technology. It's nefinitie architecture. It hails itself
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to the coming great deception. It's the springboard into the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: strong delusion. It's all prophesied. Why would Jesus say, men
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: faink for fear of coming upon the earth. Why would
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: he say that and then tag team that intovideza? Noah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I mean you start putting it all together, and here
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: we are and now agents disclosure and Congress is telling us, yepes,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: these are extraterrestrials. We're not alone in the universe.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because that phrase right there, either a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Christian's going to roll their eyes or they're going to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: end up being and I mean this in a very
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: nice way, but they're not going to be useful for
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the Kingdom in order to provide a as much as
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: we can abul local response. And I think the key thing,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and this is what I'm gonna spend my time discussing
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: uh for for your conference, is the physicality issue, the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: physicality of angels, the non physicality of demons or unclean spirits.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: What's the difference? What? What can we glean out of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the Bible? As you mentioned seeteen six, there's several other
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: passages as well, And I think that's the hard part
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: is these these craft that have metal, Well, where was
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that metal?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Mind?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I know the answer to that. These bodies,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: what exactly are they? Are? They? Are they beings from
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Zata reticulate I Now I'm not saying that either, but
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it brings up the question of are they evil? Are they?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Are they that? And it's interesting to me that is
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: there any evidence of the Bible, in the Bible of
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: God creating non human beings who became evil? The answer
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: is yes, clearly we have, we have fallen angels, and
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: we don't know the extent of all that. So certainly
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's not unprecedented that that God created beings, and maybe
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he did create some beings some of that. The Bible's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: silent on whether there are beings living in the inside
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: of Jupiter or the next star system over. It doesn't say.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But I had a brother tell me recently, well, if
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that was the case God would have had to tell us.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, first of all, have you never
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: read dude, Army twenty nine to twenty nine? The secret
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: things belong to the Lord. So there are things that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: God doesn't tell us. But if he had his reason
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to create another group of beings out there somewhere, that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't violate my faith. Again, God has created non human
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: beings that have fallen and are still fallen, and that
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: are part of God's purpose. And so if that's the case,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that's between him and I'm not saying that he's but
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it does force us to ask the question, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: just to say that they're demons when you have physical things,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: physical bodies and others. We know as well that or
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: at least was reported. I'll say it that way. Where
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: one of the guys, one of the scientists there, he
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: talks about Bush Bush, just discussing back where it was
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: told to him when he was the CIA intelligence or
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the director that there were many craft that showed up
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: at a base. One of them, three crafts showed up,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: one landed entity got out, was talking to the uniform.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Then that's all he knew. He was like, well, so
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: is that a real story? No, no, But the fact
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of the matter, if it was a real story, is
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: there a biblical framework? And I think the answer certainly
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: is yes, in order to understand these things and to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: provide what we're saying a warning that don't fall into
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the trap of people. And they didn't mention it in
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: this film. And they also did as you mentioned, they
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: didn't get into abductions or cattle mutilations. They left that out,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: probably wisely, I suppose at this point it was already
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: two hours. But you have the Stephen Griers of the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: world who have been involved in this, and they're friendly,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and he has a be afraid.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Of your start meditating, bring them into.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Your life invitamin, let's do some seances. He has a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: critical review of this movie because he talks about how
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: they're all friendly. We're the ones that attack them. They're
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: just being defensive. So all that to say is that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the goal is and again, I'm sure all of us
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: will talk about it more and be able to systematically
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: give a presentation on what the Bible says. And it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: limits to have an answer again at your virtual conference.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: But so I think as we as we maybe we could,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and just kind of wrapping it up, talk
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: about your conference and what it's as much as you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: can in the preliminary information help help us know what
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we're gonna what we're gonnaddress there.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's a virtual conference and the
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: reason for this is, you know, people can just watch it.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Everything is a pre record, So definitely you're there. Karen Wilkinson,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Allen de Doo, Tim Alberino, Derek Kilbert, Vicki Joy Anderson.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: There are some other people that might come on, Josh
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Peck so you know, in myself of course, and they'll
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: be a Q and a live Q and A on
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. So it starts on Friday and it will
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: go you know, Friday night, probably two or three hours.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm also going to show the Roswell films and probably
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the abduction film and then probably what is the Truth.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: So you're getting free films for free. It's nineteen ninety
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: nine and for all that information it's and the first
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the first two hundred people that sign up for the
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: conference get runs of Disclosure free, and then the second
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: two hundred, so the three hundred to five hundred people
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: ten dollars off. So you know what I would like
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: to see is you know, a couple thousand people sign
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: up for this thing and for nineteen dollars and ninety
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: nine cents you can see it. So this is you know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: we were gonna do it earlier, and actually talking to you,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: you know, iron sharpens iron, and you know, we pushed
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: it back to January to get people time to breathe
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and get Christmas behind us. But you know hopefully they
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: won't if well, there won't be an announcement before that,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: so we can we can talk about that, but well
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: exactly see.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so and I'm sure by the time this gets up,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: we'll have a link in the description or we'll have it,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you know, on there as well. But I think the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: key is is that the church, again oftentimes in general,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the church is behind the scenes. And so you know
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: that you have this film coming out. Now let me
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: just say the front. I'm not saying I believe every
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: last thing in the film. Okay, that would be foolish,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that would be a lack of discerpment. But if even
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: one percent of it is true, and again I think
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: that there is certainly in the research more than one
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: percent of it is true because you have so much Yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: for sure, and again we didn't. We've done We've done
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a DVD on cattle regulations and the FBI has research
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: has investigated it. I mean, this is this is you
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: know again, you can find it on our on our
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: store where we talked about UFOs, we talked about cattain relations,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: we talk abot Genesis, we talked about the supernatural nature
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: of Bible. I think that was the DBD set that
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: we did. But the fact of the matter is we
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: need to be on the cutting edge up front being
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: able to help people because what we do know is
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that after the rapture takes place, when the Antichrist arrives
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: on the scene. Second, thisess Onions two says, this is
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: a time of great delusion. It's a time of supernaturalism.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Whatever that means. That goes back to Genesis six for sure,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Revelation thirteen's is the same thing. It's supernaturalism all over
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the place. So the first thing Jesus said in Matthew
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: twenty four to four on that day, let no one
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: deceive you. There's gonna be false messiahs. There's gonna be
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: false christ there's gonna be false teachers. As you mentioned,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Luke twenty one cosmic things that are happening, men's heart
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: failing them for fear. This is a time of great delusion.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And our goal is even if if a person doesn't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: get saved, which that's the hope, but for those that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: hear the message don't get saved afterwards are gonna go, Hey,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: those two yeaho's who I rejected, thought they were crazy.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: They've planted some seeds and we're trying to say, this
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: is a time of great delusion. Hold your Bible clothes.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt that this is it. There's a phrase
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I coined in the very first book I ever wrote,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Nephilim true for here the coming great deception. People will
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: borrow that phrase, and of course different point back to
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: where the origin is, but it's this is it. This
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is the coming great deception. This will change everything. In fact,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's Chris Mellen who talks about this. This
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: is going once disclosure, once a president, where someone stands
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: up and goes, we're not alone. This changes everything, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: it changes it in a twinkling of an eye. I mean,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: just like that, the entire globe is going to go,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, now what And you know, the Vatican
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, which by the way, was
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: another wrung. I'm a lot of disclosure talked about, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the whole alien deal again that if they're there, you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: we're going to welcome them in. Who are we you
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: know this all baptize them? I mean, And it just
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: goes back in our Watches series when we sat down
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: with Tom Morn and Chris Putman, not with Tom, but
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: with Chris. Chris came on Exo Vaticana. Both of them
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: are gone now, both of them have you know, gone
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: of the Lord. They're dead, their bodies are anywhere there
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: if they're alive and with the Lord. But you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Chris Putman right on the record, you know, Exo Vaticana
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: basically stating that you know, the Vatican is going to
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: baptize uh, these entities that they come in. Look, folks,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: it's happening and the Church needs to wake up again.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Paul writes that Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Jesus says, do not be deceived. Many will come in
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: my name. I mean, I interviewed a guy from the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Realiens yesterday or actually, you know a couple of days ago,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and you know, these guys believe unequivocally that the aliens
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that there is no God. I mean, he's standing it
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: on the record, there is no God, you know, there's
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: only the eloheme. Well, we had a discussion about the
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: l Oem, you know, and that was interesting. But this
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: is this is coming down. It's no longer speculation. It
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: really isn't. And that's why the Age of Disclosure film
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: is so important. And that's why our virtual conference on
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: January sixteenth and the seventeenth, it's, you know, we're gonna
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: spill the beans, a lot of great speakers. It's virtual
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine with total access. So there you go.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'll just say this that in the film,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: in the Age of Disclosure film, they briefly discuss the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Vatican and that the Vatican is well aware of UAPs
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and non human intelligence. And we've seen over the years,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, that they the Pope and others, they
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: have a powerful really platform to shape narratives amongst the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: people who consider themselves Catholic, and so to see them
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: in the past again we know again all this stuff
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Tom Horne has done and others with Tim Almarino and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: even Steep well, going down to Mountain Graham and researching
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: down there they have you know, I would love to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I would love to look through there by no Sklar
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: telescope as we know called Lucifer. But nevertheless it's an
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: amazing piece of equipment. But that they they are astronomers.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: It's amazing that and you wonder if they even have
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: any faith at all. But they discuss these things. They
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: discuss the idea that well, either we would baptize them
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: or some of the theologians that the Catholic Church have said, well,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: if they come, they might give us a greater understanding
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: of the Creator, and they might give us extra revelation
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: that was not included in the Bible. And so we
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: can learn from our space brothers. Which is shocking that
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: they would even say such a thing. So again we're
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what we're saying here is we have the opportunity to
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: stay ahead of the game, to provide a Biblical framework,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: not a Catholic framework, not a compromising framework that we're
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that we could potentially see. We've seen it in the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: pastor in the Vatican. Will the new Pope do it,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: don't know, but if he does, we want to be
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: in it. Ready in advance to thwart any of that false,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: erroneous thinking in order to stay extremely biblical. And I
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I joke, but in the sense of if
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a craft landed, I'd go up there and I'd knock
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: on the door and I'd be like, Okay, one question.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the son
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of the Living God, and salvation is found holding him alone?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yes or no?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: That's all I need, Just you know, did Jesus come
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: in the flesh? Thank you very so.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Anyways, well, thank you LA as always.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Great to be here.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you just discussing all this and everybody else again,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: be on the lookout for LA's virtual conference coming up
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: next month. We're already in December and it's gonna be
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a good time.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: We're trying to again to stay ahead of the game here,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: be as biblical as possible, and to promote the Gospel
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ, because that is the answer, not any
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of this new age theology that's coming by various means.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: The secularism. Again, the movie was very secular whatever, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: we're just trying to deal with the information. So thanks
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: for watching. We'll catch you next time.