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- 0:00All right.
- 0:01Thank you for joining me today for this second Monday of Organize October.
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- 1:00have, you know, that true story going through your head instead of the default
- 1:06story, which so often trips us up.
- 1:09If we just let the default interpretation or the default mood play in our
- 1:16minds without intentionally taking control of it and directing it
- 1:22in keeping with truth, then we're going to get off track so quickly.
- 1:28And often we get off track without even realizing just how far off track
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- 1:40the only way, when it really isn't.
- 1:42Often our defaults take us in the wrong direction.
- 1:46And so we need to be aware of what those defaults are and when they are
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- 2:17All right, so this month's topic isâ¦
- 2:23Actually, it doesn't show it to me anymore.
- 2:25The title is missing.
- 2:28Um, it was something about cleaning
- 2:32When no cleaning schedule ever works.
- 2:34There it is.
- 2:36This is how we feel, right?
- 2:38How many cleaning schedules have you tried, uh, programs or checklists
- 2:46have you purchased, books you've read, you know, systems that maybe
- 2:51you've plotted out yourself, and yet none of them ever seem to work
- 2:57When those cleaning plans that we have tried don't work, what
- 3:04do we tend to assume is true?
- 3:07What are our default settings when that is the case?
- 3:11We think maybe we must just lack discipline, or, you know, maybe there's
- 3:17something wrong with our family, or there's something wrong with our home,
- 3:23when we're probably just thinking about the whole thing the wrong way.
- 3:29When we are trying to install some kind of cleaning program, cleaning
- 3:36system, oftentimes we do so assuming that what it looks like to have a
- 3:44cleaning system that works is that the house is always clean And the longer
- 3:51we do it, the less work it should be.
- 3:55So that eventually, if we really do install a good cleaning system or a
- 4:00cleaning plan that works for our family, we will know that it is the right one that
- 4:06has worked for us when the house is always clean and it doesn't take that much time.
- 4:13And then those two things don't happen, and so we say the cleaning system didn't
- 4:17work and our expectations about what working actually means might be what's
- 4:24actually totally off And we had a whole month a couple months ago inside Convivial
- 4:30Circle where we were talking about consistency, and a proper definition of
- 4:36consistency as a mom does not mean the same kind of consistency as a machine.
- 4:44So that's another way that our cleaning plans can take us actually off track,
- 4:51is we set up a system or choose a plan that works as if we ourselves as the
- 4:59mom and our homes and our families work in the same way that machines work.
- 5:07Where if you just program it correctly and then flip the on button, it should
- 5:14work and produce the outcome that you set out to accomplish kind of automatically,
- 5:21and definitely, you know, without hiccup.
- 5:24Any kind of hiccup in a machine indicates a problem that you should
- 5:30fix, because the whole point of having a machine is that it just chugs along
- 5:35and you get the same result day after day without interfering with it.
- 5:42And that's not how people work.
- 5:43Like, that's great for machines, and machines make good tools.
- 5:48But people aren't machines, and so we can't expect to have that kind of
- 5:56consistency or that kind of outcome from a cleaning program installed into our home.
- 6:04And you can kind of see with that language, we often are imagining that it
- 6:10works in the same way as machines work.
- 6:14But people are too variable for that.
- 6:18People use the home differently at different times and have different needs.
- 6:26People get sick.
- 6:28You know, there are just way too many variables and ups and downs to have,
- 6:36if we do this every day, it will always result in the same status in the house.
- 6:43That's just not the way l- a family life works.
- 6:46And so we have to really watch what we picture it meaning
- 6:52if a cleaning program works.
- 6:56Like, what do we mean by works?
- 6:59What does it look like to have a cleaning program work?
- 7:03What criteria are we using?
- 7:05What kind of outcomes are we assuming we will get if it's the right one?
- 7:13And we could be just totally off base in our picture of the way a
- 7:18functioning household works, 'cause a functioning household does not work
- 7:22in the same way that a factory works.
- 7:25The people in our homes aren't machines, and then homes are
- 7:30there to function for people, not for, you know, widget production
- 7:39So it's very possible that the cleaning checklists that you've tried
- 7:45or systems that you've set up even were working, and you just didn't
- 7:50count it as working well enough.
- 7:54It's, you know, it maybe wasn't what you had hoped and dreamed,
- 7:59and so you go on the hunt for the next or the better version.
- 8:04Because somewhere out there, there must be that perfect plan that will
- 8:12yes.
- 8:13Hadassah says, "A cleaning schedule won't mean that everything
- 8:17stays clean without any work."
- 8:18Right?
- 8:19'Cause what's being scheduled anyway, right?
- 8:22M- working.
- 8:24You always have to do the work for that routine to work And no matter
- 8:30how many times you do the dishes, there are gonna be more dishes to do.
- 8:35So you don't get to the point where you've done them so often or
- 8:39done them so well that they don't need to be done at all, right?
- 8:43That's just not how it works.
- 8:45That's how maybe some things work, but not maintaining a home
- 8:50And so we really have to get some self-awareness about what we're picturing
- 8:58good enough being or what working really means You know, what does it mean to
- 9:04have a cleaning system that works?
- 9:08It means you have some kind of framework that helps you keep tabs on the different
- 9:16areas of your house or the different areas of housework that you need to keep tabs
- 9:21on, and it gives you the parameters for giving your time and attention to those
- 9:28spots But I know especially with things like deep cleaning, um, you know, I've,
- 9:36I have episodes out there on just kind of the daily upkeep or weekly upkeep in a
- 9:41household, and always I will get a comment like, "What about the deep cleaning?"
- 9:48And I know my own approach years ago, you know, in my 20s and 30s, um, was
- 9:57I have to have a schedule 'cause I will forget that, you know, you should
- 10:00do this, that, or the other thing.
- 10:02And if I just find the right schedule and get those reminders, and then
- 10:08actually do the things that the reminders remind you of, I shouldn't have to
- 10:13think about these things in between.
- 10:17And somehow, you know, the condition of the house, because I have this schedule
- 10:25that I'm running, will be, like, pristine.
- 10:30Or we assume, "Oh my goodness, there's dust on, you know, the ceiling fans,"
- 10:38or, "I just discovered that there's dust on the top of the door ledges.
- 10:46I'm a failure."
- 10:47Like, that's just instantly where our mind goes.
- 10:49Like, how embarrassing.
- 10:51That should never be.
- 10:54I've gotta change my cleaning schedule so that it never happens, that there's
- 10:58dust on the top of the door jamb or on the top of the ceiling fans.
- 11:05And I just, I just think that that's not the case.
- 11:11You noticed now that there was dust, so instead of being embarrassed and
- 11:16treating it like a problem you were supposed to solve before it happened
- 11:21such that it never happens in the first place- You know, I just don't think
- 11:27that that is healthy or proper, a pr- you know, proper dealings with our
- 11:35household as it actually functions.
- 11:38I think that the way it should work is you notice there's dust on the top of
- 11:46the door jambs, and so you grab a rag and wipe it off, and then say, "There we go.
- 11:53Hey, noticed something, did something about it."
- 11:55That was 10 minutes.
- 11:57That's no big deal.
- 11:59Maybe I'll just run around and wipe down all of them, and
- 12:02hey, now the house is better.
- 12:05Like, there's actually no emergency, no need to panic, no need to go into total
- 12:11self-condemnation mode because there was dust You noticed it and you took care
- 12:16of it, you move on and it doesn't need to be a problem Like, it's just not the
- 12:22case that there being dust on something, like say the top of the fridge, or, you
- 12:29know, you have to move out your range or move the fridge out of its little
- 12:33corner, and then, you know, maybe you're horrified or mortified at the level of
- 12:39dust bunnies that found it under there, or the grime that rolled underneath,
- 12:42and you didn't know anything about it.
- 12:45It's like that doesn't necessarily mean you have to add onto your schedule,
- 12:50you should preemptively, for no reason other than to clean out dirt that
- 12:54you can't see, to clean under there.
- 12:57Likeâ¦
- 12:58Or when it comes to your attention, you take care of
- 13:02it, and then it's no big deal.
- 13:05And like we can just roll with it.
- 13:09We're not trying, like the, the presence of dust and dirt and grime
- 13:17at all, the fact that it's there isn't necessarily a problem that we should
- 13:24have solved before it ever happened such that it never happens at all.
- 13:29Instead, when there is, you know, something that comes to our attention
- 13:34and bothers us, and it's like, "Hey, you know, it-- that shouldn't be," then
- 13:38you just, you know, have rags, have something where it's easy to grab your
- 13:43materials and take care of it, and it will probably take 10 minutes And if you
- 13:50don't notice it for a while, probably that's 'cause there are actually more
- 13:52important things that you are noticing.
- 13:55Or you need to practice your noticing and just roll with what you notice
- 14:02and improve your noticing skills.
- 14:04Maybe assign yourself, instead of an elaborate cleaning plan where you're just
- 14:09gonna follow it slavishly so that you don't have to think or pay attention to
- 14:15your home, and yet it will stay perfectly clean because you've followed orders
- 14:21That's not gonna play out well long term.
- 14:24If instead you say you assign an area of your home a particular day or a
- 14:29particular week, and you're gonna spend some time paying attention, like
- 14:36just noticing that space, and then doing something that that space needs
- 14:44That's managing a home.
- 14:46And that's managing a home.
- 14:48You're being the manager.
- 14:49You are being the caretaker, the one who's coming in and really seeing what
- 14:55that space needs, not going to find a boss or a slave master who's going to
- 15:02dictate what needs to be done as if there is some kind of one-size-fits-all.
- 15:08If everybody just did this, everybody could have a clean home.
- 15:12You know how different homes are?
- 15:14And how different families live in their homes differently?
- 15:17And how different it is in different seasons?
- 15:23Uh, I mean, different, like, literal annual seasons, but
- 15:26also different seasons of life.
- 15:28Like, the kind of work that needs to happen, the kind of messes that
- 15:32happen when everyone's little, are completely different than the kind
- 15:35that happen when everyone's a teenager.
- 15:39So, no matter what season you are in, it's not like there is a perfect plan
- 15:47out there for you that if you just found it and installed it, you're
- 15:51good to go for the rest of your life.
- 15:53You don't need to find a checklist to obey to get you the outcome that you want.
- 16:02There is no plug-and-play formula.
- 16:05There is you living wisely and well within your space with your family, managing
- 16:15that appropriately with your priorities in gear and without just falling off the
- 16:23cliff of self-condemnation every time something isn't the way you would prefer.
- 16:30That's, you know, organizing what matters first, which is
- 16:34our attitude and our expectation
- 16:38Yes.
- 16:40Right?
- 16:40She says, it's as if you're saying, "There's a weed in my garden.
- 16:44I failed the whole thing."
- 16:46Right?
- 16:46It's like, of course there's a weed in yourâ¦
- 16:48You- if you chose to garden, you're gonna have to deal with weeds.
- 16:52The presence of a weed isn't a failure.
- 16:55It's just, you just pull it and it's not a big deal
- 16:58Oh, that's a great idea.
- 16:59So Suzanne says that she started using the daily three model, so
- 17:04like a daily top three, which I teach in the daily card method.
- 17:08I have a free workshop on that.
- 17:10You can go to simplyconvivial.com/organized
- 17:13for a free training on the daily card method if you aren't
- 17:16sure what she's talking about.
- 17:18But Suzanne says, "I've been using the daily three model for when I
- 17:22do a deep clean of a target area."
- 17:25Uh, she goes in and she asks, "Which three things would make the
- 17:29biggest difference in this area?
- 17:32If my deep cleaning morning doesn't go as planned," because it won't, right?
- 17:38Yeah, you don't need a super detailed prescribed thing.
- 17:41You just need some dedicated t- time and attention in the different
- 17:46places, and that time and a- attention can be prioritized According to
- 17:52how integral that space is to your family's functioning, right?
- 17:58Um, like it's okay if your garage is a storage area And if it's not
- 18:04beautiful, like that's actually okay
- 18:08Yes, Melissa says, "I may not need to write a list, but I
- 18:12do enjoy checking things off.
- 18:14Making my own list and checking it off helps my mindset and gives me a
- 18:17little reward every task I accomplish."
- 18:20Yeah, and you know, writing things down, writing down what you notice
- 18:25so that then you can take care of it, writing your own checklists is great.
- 18:30The problem comes when you think that you are trying to develop like
- 18:37the one checklist to rule them all.
- 18:40Like, "I will perfect this one checklist so well that I can just continually reuse.
- 18:47I'll never have to write another list again.
- 18:50This one will work forever and all time."
- 18:53And then when it stops working, like something went wrong, when
- 18:57lists just aren't supposed to ever be the one list to rule them all.
- 19:05A list is just writing down what you're paying attention to so
- 19:09that then you can work through it.
- 19:12That is, it's a part of the process, and so you can just keep doing that.
- 19:17And if the list, you know, that maybe you did reuse a few times in the winter,
- 19:23then suddenly doesn't work in the spring, it's not necessarily 'cause anything went
- 19:27wrong or the list failed or you failed.
- 19:30You just need a new list.
- 19:31You just make a new one.
- 19:32It's not a big deal
- 19:34All right.
- 19:35So I am so enjoying doing Organize October with you, and I hope that you
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- 20:04And we'll keep going.
- 20:06We're, the month is underway, but there's still plenty of October left.
- 20:11So we're gonna get our attitude in gear before the holidays really kick in, and,
- 20:18uh, I look forward to doing that with you.
- 20:21So thanks everyone for coming.