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Falcons vs Packers - TNF Showdown Shippers | NFL Week 3 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 4: Toe Tagging Tambo, back for another edition of Showdown Shippers.
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  Speaker 4: Here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station, we got
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  Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football, Atlanta at Green Bay. Got hoop, got
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  Speaker 4: title here with me as always, and I got to
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  Speaker 4: bring in title first. It was a no-dart start. Heard
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people, but a 40K day to round
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  Speaker 4: it out and finish. And I know there was some
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  Speaker 4: weekend stuff and close calls, but it's always nice to
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  Speaker 4: get a shipper, so congrats to you.
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  Speaker 3: Love to see that up top. It just shows, like, anything...
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  Speaker 3: can happen. It's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: I think you even called it like, yeah, one line
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  Speaker 4: up here, the rest over here, but it only takes one.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing my friend? Congrats again. Awesome way to
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  Speaker 3: get a Monday started. Now we're back for some more
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  Speaker 3: Thursday action.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it really does show that back in the day,
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  Speaker 5: usually when I saw like a portfolio with like 2%
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  Speaker 5: of someone at 4%, I just X'd it out. And
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  Speaker 5: you can see what the pros are doing.
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  Speaker 2: And the like squirrel patrol.
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  Speaker 5: I remember the one day when the Nick Chubb injury,
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  Speaker 5: when he won all the money, he had like 2%
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  Speaker 5: of one guy and one at all. And I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 5: and I see it more and more. It's like, it
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  Speaker 5: only takes one lineup. Each lineup you make should be
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  Speaker 5: independent and tell a story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I played 60 teams and I had 56 of 60
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  Speaker 5: with dart. So I said that in the discord and like,
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  Speaker 5: it's the game we play. I'm not like internally tilting.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just like, all right, four out of four chances
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  Speaker 5: to win it all is not likely. And man, it
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  Speaker 5: went like wire to wire.
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 5: It Not saying it wasn't a sweat, likely versus scat,
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  Speaker 5: quorum at the end.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a sweat for sure.
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  Speaker 5: But, yeah, it just shows you just need one team.
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  Speaker 5: And especially with how top-heavy DFS is nowadays, and especially showdown,
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  Speaker 5: all your bubbles can be to the left. As long
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  Speaker 5: as that one's in first place, that's what you're playing for. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it felt good to get a little lucky and felt
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  Speaker 5: good to get there, especially after Sunday. So we'll take it,
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  Speaker 5: and I appreciate it. Now the Packers are back on
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  Speaker 5: the slate, so I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other reason I went to you first. Definitely
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  Speaker 4: excited for this from that perspective. We're going to be
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  Speaker 4: looking up some names, checking out some of these dudes.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the kicker's name is Smack.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta love that. Nice one to kick it off to. Hoop,
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  Speaker 3: I'll bring you in, man. Another episode, another edition of
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  Speaker 3: Showdown Chippers. We got Thursday Night Football. What's your thoughts here?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Another week already to week three and a solid game
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  Speaker 1: from a DFS perspective. We have quarterback change with, with
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  Speaker 1: Panics coming back, which we can kind of get into
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  Speaker 1: and talk through that and how it changes the dynamic
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  Speaker 1: of the game. I definitely think it changes the fantasy
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  Speaker 1: outlook for some of these guys, but for the Falcons
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  Speaker 1: and actually winning football games, I'm a little skeptical, but
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  Speaker 1: we can get into that. We have injury on the
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  Speaker 1: Packers side, Jaden readout. I mean, the one thing with
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  Speaker 1: the Packers is, Talked about it. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember what show, but we talked about it where
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  Speaker 1: last year it was like very tough on main slates
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  Speaker 1: to stack the Packers offense because they're cycling in like
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  Speaker 1: five or six different wide receivers. Well, this year they've
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  Speaker 1: consolidated that. And now we have one of those guys out.
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  Speaker 1: Jaden Reed's out. So that's definitely going to be a
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  Speaker 1: big talking point. And, you know, the pass catchers on
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  Speaker 1: the Packers side are going to be a big conversation
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  Speaker 1: and probably a big part of what I do today.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll go through, talk it off. talking all through,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, the kicker stuff is funny. It's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: these teams just get like these random kickers, that Colts
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  Speaker 1: guy last late, just, I mean, effortless, like from super deep.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy today, Trey smack, that's a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a name for a kicker. I'm excited to, to check,
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  Speaker 1: check them out a little bit here today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, some are saying, you mentioned it, when these guys
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  Speaker 4: are out, you can get the Green Bay Stackers instead
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  Speaker 4: of the Packers.
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  Speaker 3: It's more possible.
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  Speaker 4: And now you can stack with smack with the Green
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  Speaker 4: Bay Packers and be able to do it up. So
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  Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: I will go to Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine that. We've got Nades in the chat just stroking
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  Speaker 1: a new Packers player. He's a stud. Of course he is, Nades.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Golden was last year.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Golden's doing his thing right now.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about Golden. Hey, they're a
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  Speaker 1: big difference. I'm talking last year, not this year. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into Golden for today. It's a different story than
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  Speaker 1: last year, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, today's price is not today's price.
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  Speaker 1: Any opportunity to take a shot at Nades cannot pass up.
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  Speaker 1: He knows I love him. I love Nades to death,
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  Speaker 1: but got to take those shots.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll save some of these questions. You're fine.
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  Speaker 3: Title here first, just so he can talk through it.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get a title grand scheme overview on this one.
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  Speaker 3: Packers at home.
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  Speaker 4: One thing that was noted, title, and you keep an
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  Speaker 4: eye on a ton of this stuff. I mean, Nate's
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  Speaker 4: already mentioned title too sharp, talking about the win on
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  Speaker 4: Monday and just staying in the mix. But the chat
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  Speaker 4: was talking a lot about big line movement on this one,
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  Speaker 4: this slate being interesting, all that. Give us your grand
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  Speaker 4: scheme overview on this one. Packers at home here versus
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  Speaker 4: the Falcons.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, low total at 42 and a half. Four and
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  Speaker 5: a half point favorites are the Packers. Opened up at
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  Speaker 5: seven and a half. That is a lot of line movement,
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  Speaker 5: but Cooper Rush was as bad as pretty much any
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  Speaker 5: starting quarterback has been in probably the last decade. So
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  Speaker 5: whatever you think of Penix, whether you think he's trash, okay, serviceable,
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  Speaker 5: even trash is better than what Cooper Rush was. That
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  Speaker 5: dude was as bottom of the barrel as possible. So
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  Speaker 5: the offense has to get a big bump there, especially London,
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  Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts, and all that. As far as the Packers side,
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  Speaker 5: I think this was a great showdown. Now, I kind
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  Speaker 5: of want to say it's terrible because I said it
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  Speaker 5: was terrible Monday and I won. And now I like it.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a little scary. But the Packers running back room,
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  Speaker 5: it's up in the air. Marshawn Lloyd had a bad
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  Speaker 5: fumble in the fourth quarter. And then they went to
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  Speaker 5: Caleb Johnson. And Caleb Johnson looked good. He is going
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  Speaker 5: to be popular, though. One of the more popular value
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  Speaker 5: plays at 4K. But we have unknowns at the running
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  Speaker 5: back room. And, I mean, heck, Chris Brooks will rotate
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  Speaker 5: in a little bit as well. So that's good when
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  Speaker 5: talking about ownership. Sorry if you can hear my dogs barking. Hey!
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  Speaker 4: It used to be a thing, by the way, do
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  Speaker 4: you remember those days? It might be too young, but
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  Speaker 4: if the dog barked in the background, it meant, and
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  Speaker 4: you said Chris Brooks and the dog barked. So that
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  Speaker 4: used to be like the sign that that's the guy
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  Speaker 4: you got to play now. And they'd go off and
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  Speaker 4: you're like, Oh, the dog knew, but maybe it's Chris
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  Speaker 4: Brooks night.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I mean, Chris Brooks has shown to be very
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  Speaker 2: low on a 5,400.
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  Speaker 5: That's one way if you want only a couple teams
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  Speaker 5: at the top, but then yeah, no Jaden Reed, which
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  Speaker 5: definitely makes it better. Christian Watson's expensive. golden, but Sky Moore, another, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: I think he's going to be a little more popular
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  Speaker 5: than we have him at 2,400, but man, he is
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  Speaker 5: really impressed. He played 36% of snaps last week, which
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  Speaker 5: was number three. Obviously Reed went down in the first drive,
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  Speaker 5: but he out snapped Mountain. He outstrapped this Strudivant guy.
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  Speaker 5: He's a punt returner. He's had some big plays for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Sky Moore has. So I do think, especially with the
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  Speaker 5: Packers being favored and I mean, it's pretty concentrated on
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  Speaker 5: the Falcon side.
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  Speaker 2: The value isn't great.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're going to see a lot of 4-2 Packers,
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  Speaker 5: even 5-1 Packers, and then 3-3. Anytime you're playing more
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  Speaker 5: Falcons than Packers today, I'm not going to– like a
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  Speaker 5: 2-4 with Bijan up top and then four Packers isn't
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  Speaker 5: necessarily contrarian. But it is really clear that when you
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  Speaker 5: are going to value, the Packers side looks a lot
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  Speaker 5: better than the Falcons. So just know that roster construction-wise.
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  Speaker 5: And the first thing I always do is look at
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  Speaker 5: captain ownership. We have Bijan over double the ownership as
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  Speaker 5: the next highest. And I mean, it makes sense. We
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  Speaker 5: have value on the slate. Its projection is by far
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  Speaker 5: the highest. And yeah, with Penix back, it's a big
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  Speaker 5: bump to Cooper Rush. I don't think you can stack
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  Speaker 5: the box as easily.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great overview.
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  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of things that we're going
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  Speaker 4: to take away when we get to the captains and
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  Speaker 4: then bring into the positions as well. When, when people
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  Speaker 4: over from here for your grand scheme over here. Anything
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  Speaker 4: else you see sticking out before we hop into captains?
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  Speaker 1: No, good breakdown. I mean, you look at the Packers
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  Speaker 1: running back room and everyone thought it was definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to be Marshawn Lloyd. And he just has not grabbed
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  Speaker 1: that role. And it's it's pretty wide open. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we get into the captain conversation, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to definitely be hard to play any of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: because it is probably a hot hand situation. If one
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  Speaker 1: of them gets going, they're likely to kind of stay
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  Speaker 1: in there and get some of the carries. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Penix coming back is definitely, again, for me personally, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the Falcons winning football games, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it does much. Cooper Rush is not great. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: certain Penix is all that much better, to be honest. But,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the stats obviously might say a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: But from a fantasy perspective, we know he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get the ball to some of these
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  Speaker 1: pass catchers a little bit, specifically Drake London. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's a little boost for Bijan. But the
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  Speaker 1: line did move. I think basically like three points when
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  Speaker 1: they announced Penex coming back. So it is a different dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: But for me personally, it's going to be probably pretty
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  Speaker 1: condensed up top. We'll talk about that when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: But again, for me personally, the pass catchers on the
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay side are going to be what I kind
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  Speaker 1: of focus in on here today. All right.
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  Speaker 4: We'll start with the captain conversation and I'll stay with you, Hoop.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned a couple of these guys. Obviously, we talked
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  Speaker 4: about Bijan already. Title mentioned, you know, the interesting part
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  Speaker 4: is his ownership is essentially double. On a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these slates so far this season, just kicking it off,
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  Speaker 4: we have got really spread out ownership for the showdown captains.
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  Speaker 4: This one, not the case, right? You've got Bijan 25
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  Speaker 4: plus most likely. And then after that, it starts to
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  Speaker 4: separate and even out from there. But give me your
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  Speaker 4: thoughts at the captain position.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it kind of stays like that. I
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  Speaker 1: hope Bijan is well above everyone else because if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, it's going to be easy to get overweight
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  Speaker 1: on anything else that you really want to do on
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  Speaker 1: the slate if you are MMEing or even for people
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  Speaker 1: that are hand-building one lineup or five lineups. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be easy to make your moves on the slate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, Bijan, if you're building a bunch of lineups, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to X him out at the captain.
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  Speaker 1: He could absolutely– nuke this slate or nuke any slate
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  Speaker 1: he's got multiple touchdown upside he has 10 reception upside
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  Speaker 1: like that's tough to exclude from your player pool so
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  Speaker 1: I think he's fine no matter what you're doing today
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  Speaker 1: but after him the guys I'm most interested in are
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  Speaker 1: for sure the Packers pass catchers for reasons we talked
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  Speaker 1: about there's a team last year they were mixing in
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  Speaker 1: five to six wide receivers every game they cut that
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  Speaker 1: all the way down to like the main three guys
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  Speaker 1: this year Christian Watson Watson Nades boy Matthew Golden and
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  Speaker 1: then jayden reed well jayden reed is now out so
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  Speaker 1: christian watson and golden i absolutely love up top and
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  Speaker 1: again because bijan is getting so much ownership it has
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  Speaker 1: to probably be somewhere around 10 for those guys i
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  Speaker 1: think watson could come up a little bit but you
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  Speaker 1: know matthew golden is going to stay uh in that
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  Speaker 1: range 10 11 you know probably 12 ownership and easy
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  Speaker 1: to get overweight so i really like him i really
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  Speaker 1: like tucker craft too i mean tucker craft this year
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  Speaker 1: just pulling this up really hasn't done shit. Like what
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  Speaker 1: two for 15, three for 65. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to have a big game. You
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  Speaker 1: can get a lot of catches. You can get there
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of catches and he can get there
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  Speaker 1: with multiple touchdowns. I love Tucker craft up top. When
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  Speaker 1: you factor everything in ownership and all that, like those
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  Speaker 1: are by far my three favorite captains on the slate, Watson,
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  Speaker 1: golden craft. And I probably want equal exposure to all
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  Speaker 1: those guys. in that captain spot. After those guys, I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: don't really have much interest in the captains. I don't
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: really have a ton of interest in Jordan Love. I'll
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: probably keep Jordan Love in the player pool, but not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily like force a certain person. And I just think
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  Speaker 1: if he has success, it's likely that one of those
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  Speaker 1: guys has a big game. Now, could he spread it
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  Speaker 1: out to those gentlemen? Absolutely. But to me, I think
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys has the big game. So Watson, Golden, Kraft,
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  Speaker 1: I love. Drake London, definitely going to include him as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a rough go so far for him,
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  Speaker 1: but you can probably attribute most of that to having
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Rush as the quarterback, four for 51, two for 29.
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  Speaker 1: Penix has done a good job of getting in the ball,
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  Speaker 1: so I think he has the upside. So, again, Bijan's
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  Speaker 1: a different conversation. I'm not even going to include him
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  Speaker 1: in my rankings. Definitely fine if you're building 150, totally
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  Speaker 1: get it. But Watson, Golden, Tucker Craft, Drake London. I
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  Speaker 1: want exposure heavy. I want to be overweight on all
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  Speaker 1: four of those guys. And if that means I'm underweight
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  Speaker 1: on Bijan, good with that. If that means I'm underweight
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  Speaker 1: on Jordan Love, I'm good with that. But those four,
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely love tonight. And, you know, Kyle Pitts, probably not. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. He should be low owned up there.
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  Speaker 1: I just I love those four guys that I mentioned.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like London because if I'm leveraging Bijon
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  Speaker 4: in the captain spot when I'm not on Bijon, obviously
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  Speaker 4: he's got a big number up top. His ceiling is high.
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  Speaker 4: It's all the factors you mentioned. Having Penix back there
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  Speaker 4: maybe helps. But just noting it, London.
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  Speaker 1: If that ownership number, not to cut you off, but
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  Speaker 1: I did want to add on because we talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: If it remains around 10%, that's insane for me. I
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  Speaker 1: think it comes up. But a lot of places are
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  Speaker 1: showing him right now, Drake London, right around 10%. If
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  Speaker 1: that's the case, he's an absolute steal on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's more than fair.
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  Speaker 4: So to me, it's like, even if it, I don't, again,
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  Speaker 4: I'm the one that talks about this probably the most of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, anybody just when others are complaining, like, well,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: if he was, you know, in the discord, you see it,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: if he was 12%, I'd consider it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: But now that he's 14, I'm not going to do it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: It's like, you either want them or you don't, you
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: either think it's happening or you don't either have a portfolio.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: You don't, whatever you want to look at it. Perspective wise. I'm,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: I'm interested in him regardless.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Like I get how you could do panics up top
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: and play like London or, pits, whatever else you want
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: to do. Even Dijon in the flex, maybe throws him
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: some passes, but I feel more comfortable on the other side.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: And I think others will too, but you know, like
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: you said, not, it doesn't seem like people are super
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: high on the quarterbacks at captain tonight.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I would still prefer love.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I still think there's Watson golden, uh, Sky Moore, who
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: title mentioned Tucker craft. Somebody made a good point too,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: about the O-line issues. Um, that, that could be pretty
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: intriguing tonight as well. And I will say this almost worked.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: The other night.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I did post this title in the chat. I don't
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: know if you saw it, but in the disco, I did,
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I told you, I love that slate. And I had
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the exact same lineup you won with instead of Kyron.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: and there's other ways that you could have shaken it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And I think there was.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Actually one higher quorum lineup actually, but that was a
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: three-way chop. And it's like, is it, I don't know
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: if it's very likely, but I'm saying to me, I
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: like stuff like that tonight. I could see the same
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: thing with craft and John who, yes, you could go
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: pay up somewhere else, but it might just end up
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: working out. If something like that worked in your favor,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the captain anymore. Just sparked out
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: of my mind when someone mentioned it. So I do
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: like craft. I like golden and, I like love. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: like London.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Those are kind of the man and Bijan, obviously.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: So I think that's like kind of the five that
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about and I'll kick it over to you. Title.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Give your thoughts additionally.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. I have it pretty similar as you guys.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: The one you didn't mention that I have some interest
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: in and manually going to bump is Caleb Johnson. I
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: think he's a starting running back. Props have him with
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: more rushing attempts than Lloyd, more rushing yards than Lloyd.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: He's looked better. Lloyd had that bad fumble. He's very cheap.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: He's only showing less than 2% at captain at 4K. Now,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: when you plug in Caleb Johnson at captain, don't zero
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: out your money and play all the studs. That 1.5%
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: captain or whatever, it'd still be duped a lot more
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: than you'd expect. But you leave 700 on the table
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: with the Caleb Johnson captain team. I think there's plenty
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: of ways he can get there. So I think he
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: is very interesting at low ownership, plus 225 to score,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: number six on the slate. The one that I have
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: a little less interest in you guys, and I still
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: don't mind them, is Tucker Kraft. It's really the main
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: concern of they're down two offensive linemen. I mean, there
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: was a freaking quote that they debated putting Tucker Kraft
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: on the offensive line when the injuries went down. Like,
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I am worried that they're going to keep him into
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: block more. They talked about the 12 personnel with John
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: and Kraft. Kraft is a phenomenal blocker. Thankfully, the Falcons
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: defense isn't great and that he can't get off to
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: the quarterback as much. So I'm hoping this is a
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: matchup that Kraft can get out there. and run some
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: more routes, but I am worried if they can't block
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: early that they're going to have an extra protector in,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: and that definitely hurts Tucker Craft's upside. Other than that, yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely wide receivers on this slate. At ownership, London, Watson, Golden,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: up top, all look great. As far as Bijan, yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: he's getting ownership. I mean, I couldn't imagine fading. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: still don't even think I'll have under 20% at captain.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Most of my teams will have Bijan on the slate.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: He just can get there in so many ways, and
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: I view the Penix upgrade from Cooper Rush is very big. Again,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I don't even think Penix is great. I don't think
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: he's terrible though. So I guess maybe I'm a little
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: higher on Penix than some. I just think Cooper Rush
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: is really that bad when it's all said and done. Um,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and the ability not to just completely stack the box,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: the game script should be somewhat good for Bijan. I
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: think he can get back to like six plus catches.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: So Bijan, Golden, Watson, Drake, London. And then I think
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Caleb Johnson for me, I'm fine with Jordan Love too.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Definitely love over Penix. Um, I don't know what it,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: what does it take for love to get to the
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: top 300 plus two touchdowns at two different guys?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Uh, I don't love it though.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: You don't love it. Jordan love it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: But I think, um, you know, it's a lot of
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: the cheaper captains, like the Caleb one makes sense because
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: like you say, 6,000, one nice thing about Caleb.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: And I don't disagree with like your Tucker crafting.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I was kind of saying that just, we hadn't got
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to tight end later yet, but I'm saying like, that's
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the thing where I think John, who I'll pull it
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: up in a second, but just to note it, the
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Caleb stuff, I was going to ask you about the props,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: and you already mentioned it, but.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: When you go to those guys... you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Can kind of like, what's it? Like thread the needle
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: is the saying I was looking for because you don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: need the value plays anymore. But to your point, as
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: long as you don't max out the salary on a
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: 2% on captain, there's 2000 lineups on every 100,000.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: But it's like, there's going to be a lot of
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: those that are dead right away or like in massive
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: shops that we're probably not going to want to be
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: a part of.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: So we're not building like that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: If you leave, 700 to 1500 on the table. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: those you're, you're going to be in a different crew
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: already and less dupes and all these opportunities, if that
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: was to actually come through and then not need, um,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the value plays. If you do something like, uh, you know, again,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: this could be right. Andrew could be right that this
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: works tonight, but if you did a John new captain, uh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I'd want to be leaving a lot of money on
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the table because it's like that lineup just fills itself.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: You can put Bijan, both quarterbacks, Watson, you can put
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: whatever you want in it, but you're probably going to
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: actually be very similar to everybody else with that one
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: where a Caleb one might be a little bit easier
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: to get different with. And I do have the quotes,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: our partnership. over at dfsos.com. You guys want to check
• 19:52
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• 19:55
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of different stuff. We use it for takedown, breakdown, whatever,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: but I like the notes. And it was one day
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: ago on craft. And it said, talk about using Tucker
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: craft at the offensive line at one point during week two,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: after four offensive linemen left the game. And then you
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: talked about Caleb who it's right here from three days ago.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And it says, Caleb Johnson could earn more opportunities as
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: his comfort in the offensive Uh, and protection scheme grows.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I thought there was some good stuff, you know, I think,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you know, start off overtime, he rips off 12 yard run,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: something like that. So maybe, um, we do see even
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: more Caleb today when it comes down to it, like
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: you said, and the props already thinking it's going to
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: be going that way.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: So that's, that's interesting as well.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I'll let you continue that title.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Take us into any more on the quarterbacks that you
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: want to add in the flex position or just ways
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you might be using them differently. I know we talked
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: about them up top already. If you're, for example, like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: you know, panics for me, I'll just note it here.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: And even actually for love, love as well, just so,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: so much more in the flex. Like then I can say, fine,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I can get by with it there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: It makes sense.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: If I'm putting London up top and it pairs up,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: that can make sense to me. But, you know, just
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: from quarterbacks as a, as a whole, how are you
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: thinking about using them in the flex?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: And I just want to say for the, Caleb Johnson too. Again,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Marshawn Lloyd had a bad fumble to start the fourth quarter.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: And sometimes when you see that, like they'll get away
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: from him that game, but they don't want to like
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: completely ruin his confidence, especially with who knows what's going
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: to go on with Josh Jacobs. So I'm not like
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: convinced Caleb Johnson is just going to take over this
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: role and run with it. It's still seven and a
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: half rushing prop or attempts for Lloyd, 10 and a
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: half for Caleb Johnson. But we also have one guy
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: in Lloyd, 7,400, Caleb Johnson's 4K. If it was flipped,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't really have interest in either As far
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: as the quarterbacks, I mean, really, whenever I see any
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: quarterback at 33% in the flex, it's hard for me
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: not to have any interest, especially how they're the underdogs.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: If they are trailing, they're going to have to throw
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the ball. And he's only 9K, which isn't breaking the
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: bank by any means. So actually in the flex, I'm
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Pennix over Jordan Love. I can go any Jordan Love
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: team right to Pennix and leave 1K. I think I'm
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: going to be underweight Jordan Love on this slate at
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: his price tag and then other options I prefer around him.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: and ability to leave money. Any love team can go
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: to London. Any love team can go to Watson, Golden, Pennix, Kraft,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: you name it. So I think I'm going to be
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: under Jordan Love in the flex.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Do you wonder?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Do you think so?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I wonder.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: And if you guys think tonight, we'll see a little
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: less ownership on these quarterbacks because of the dart injury
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the other night, like people nervous about like, well, I'm
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: not going to run because there was like we were
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: running five ones the other night with dart on the
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: other side.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He runs the flags.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: He's able to spread it out. We weren't really sure
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: in love with all these other options. So it's like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: let's just do that. And that's how a lot of
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: people were like, damn, I wish I had a played quarterback.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Well, this is how it started.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I wish I had played neighbors instead of dart and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: then wait, he's injured now. He did end up coming back,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying that was kind of funny. The
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: way it played out that everybody thought they wish they
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: went that route. Maybe tonight we see less of these
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: guys in the flex. I will note before I go
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to you hoop on this enough conversation about it to
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: make it. I will say this and I don't do
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: it very often, but if there was a slate and
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I haven't got to my build yet, so I'm not sure,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: but if there was.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: A slate for defense or kicker up top tonight, I,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: It's one like this could be the case.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: If we don't really love both quarterbacks, there's offensive line
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: issues that could break down as they get closer to
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: the end zone.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And now it becomes a field goal or whatever.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: If you think Penix is a statue and you want
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: to go leverage against Bijan in the captain, well, that's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: going to be with Green Bay defense. So there's a
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: lot of different ways you could do it tonight where
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Green Bay or smack could be up top. And maybe
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: it's the other side. If you have this game going
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: differently in the line movement is in that direction. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's at least somewhat interesting that if there
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: was going to be a slate hoop, this could be
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the one where it would make some sense or you
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: could see it afterwards and say, Oh yeah, should have
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: thought of that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. For these quarterbacks. So I think the point that
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: title made is, is the best. I mean, with, with Penix,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of shit on them overall, not
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: only as a captain play, but like, you know, 33% quarterback,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a guy that's going to touch the ball, you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: every single time, unless they do like a wildcat or
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: something when, when the Falcons have the ball, like 33%,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like I'm definitely in on that in the flex. And
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: for me, it's very clear. No captain for Pennex, but
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: definitely in the flux. And I like him quite a
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: bit at that ownership. And then with Jordan Lovely, I mean,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks, it's like, man, it's, you know, these
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the team that's supposed to win, like they're
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: going to get 50, 60 percent and whatever. Like there's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: no there's nothing crazy to say about he's fine in
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the flux. Like if you're playing those teams. you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: golden in the captain Tucker craft and the captain, like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: obviously he's going to be great in, in the flex spot. So, um, yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: nothing really to add except, yeah, I agree with the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Pax thing. 33%, like definitely interested.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I would say like my take on it would
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: be just a little bit extra to add is like
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: something like Bijan is going to be so popular in
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the captain, but because of the value plays, people will
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: still easily have the money for Penex, um, But if
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you do look at a lot of the winning rosters
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: with running backs up top, it's oftentimes at the expense
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: of their quarterback.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Now Bijan's a little bit different because he can catch passes.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: He can do all that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: So it could still drag them along. But just noting it,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: things like that, that you want to think about when
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: you're building out your lineup. Sometimes when people are building
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: that line of like, well, I got the money to
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: upgrade to Pennix.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I'll just do it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: But it's now you just not only upgraded to something
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: that might be less likely, but you also just spent
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: more money, which also made you do more in the contest.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: So it's like you really can be backing yourself into
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the corner two or three times over. And so it's
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: not just about like if everyone like the other night was.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, I wish I didn't play dart or I didn't
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: have so much.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: It's like, if you didn't have 60 plus percent dart
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the other night, you probably played bad. It's just the
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: result of an injury. He's, he's an amazing play. The
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: process was good. The result was not, but you can't
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: be mad after the fact it's like tonight quarterbacks will
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: show up, but I'd still be thinking about how you're
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: using them in the flex. So, uh, hoop, I'm going
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: to stay with you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: We talked about Bijan. We've had a little bit.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Of a conversation title, brought up some good points on
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the Caleb Johnson side of things and Lloyd and Brooks and,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the dog bark on Chris Brooks.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: So maybe that's the thing, but Brian Robinson, Jr., just
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: how you're handling, how many you'd play together, different factors.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: What do you think here at the running back position?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, just looking at the Packers side,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it appears, I mean, based on the props,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: based on what we saw, like, yeah, Caleb Johnson probably
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: gets a majority of the work. The ownership is probably
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: going to follow behind him because he's 4K, right? He's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: only $ 4, 000 and he's at a price point where gets
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: in the end zone once, and then you're kind of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: free rolling and he's very, very likely to be on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: optimal at that point. You know, we're showing 21%. I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: think it's not like he's going to be 30, 40% owned.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So I think he's a great play on this slate.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd, you know, was supposed to be the guy
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he's $ 7, 400. I think, you know, we have it around 15, 16%.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It is a tough click though, because at 74, you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: got to, You got to do more than just something.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I always say with those guys that are kind of
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like 5k, like at the 5k price point, you got to,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you got to do something. Well, he's 7,400. He's got
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to do something plus something else. Like he's got to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: do more than just something. It's a tough click, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the ownership's going to be low on him. You know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: what does he have to do to be in optimal tonight?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Probably a low scoring game where he scores a touchdown
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and gets like 50 yards. 60 yards, maybe a couple catches. Like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: can he do that? You know, maybe. You know, Chris Brooks,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I think, is probably the toughest click of the Packers
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: at 5,400. Got four carries. That was in an overtime game.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's a very good play on the slate.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: So just the Packers guys, Caleb, then Marshawn, Lloyd, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: then Chris Brooks for me. Falcons, like Bijan, what else
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: can you really say? I mean, just unlimited work here
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: if it is a competitive game. going to be very popular.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: There's nothing else to add. So then it's like, how
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: does Brian Robinson Jr. fit into the mix with these
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Packers guys? And he's a guy that has the ability
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to come in and steal some touchdowns. If Bijan rips
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: off a long run and gets down to the 10-yard line,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Brian Robinson Jr. has a chance to come in there
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and steal a touchdown. He's 4,400. So for me personally,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: just to rank... These running backs, and I'm not even
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: going to include Bijan just because he's kind of in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a league of his own when talking about these running backs.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It's Caleb Johnson, it's Brian Robinson Jr., just because I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: think there's some solid touchdown equity there. It's Marshawn Lloyd,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and then it's Chris Brooks. So that's how I'd kind
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: of rank those four guys after Bijan.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: What about this?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: I don't let you take the running back position here,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: but the first question that popped up here was, would
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: you play more than one Green Bay running back in
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: a lineup, right?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Bet lines, build lineups.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Or some people snort them, but yeah, we're definitely lines
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: and lineups are different.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Or is it max of one? What are you thinking?
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: More than likely, I would max one. If you're playing
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: 150 teams, I always hesitate to make rules like that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of random stuff that has got there
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: in Showdown, and that also helps you be pretty unique.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: But if I'm hand-building and just what my brain's telling me,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: it's mainly the price tags. If you're playing two of them, 7,400, 4K,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: and 5,400, Two of them have to probably get a
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: touchdown or one of them has to get a touchdown
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: while the other one is getting 60 yards or catching
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: passes or something. So it feels like you need too
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: much to happen and they're going to rotate quite a bit. So, yeah, 150,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I'd allow it. As far as my breakdown at running back,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: it's yeah, it's Caleb Johnson and Bijan. And after that,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: it's really tough. I think Lloyd's one of the worst
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: plays on the slate. I would rather Chris Brooks for
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: sure over Marshawn Lloyd. on save the 2k 7400 just
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: a terrible price tag just looking at the touchdown prop
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Lloyd's plus 225 Brooks plus 350 rushing yards 24 and
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: a half to 14 and a half like that 10
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: yards is not enough for me to pay 2k more
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and you're just sacrificing so much in that range so
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I think Lloyd's awful. I do prefer Brian Robinson, though,
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: over Brooks or Marshawn Lloyd. Yeah, I mean, he's going
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: to spell Bijan at times. Bijan breaks off a long
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: run or whatever happens. If this game gets out of hand,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: we saw Brian Robinson get a lot of work. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: don't like Brian Robinson much, but he's 11% owned. He's 4,400.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: So it's clearly Bijan, Caleb Johnson, a huge gap. Brian Robinson, gap.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Chris Brooks, big gap.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I laughed earlier.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: This too, our guy Oracle said, Caleb's price is outrageous
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel. I think Marshawn Lloyd's price is outrageous on
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: FanDuel because I have it ranked like you do there.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I get like he was supposed to be the guy
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and all that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: That could be true. It's more about the pricing factor.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: It's $ 2, 000 less on DraftKings for Chris Brooks if I
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: was even going to go there, but it's way less
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: for Caleb.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Caleb fits in there.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I think the interesting part about the two running back thing,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: it's because both teams work so differently and because we
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: don't like the packers is literally we're talking through it
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it's roulette for these three but i would play bijon
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: and captain and brian robinson in flex easily but on
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: the other side you're like well that costs way more
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: than two green bay running backs but it's it's a
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: totally different setup there so it's not that i won't
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: get to it like you said in portfolio i don't
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: rule myself out any of that the fact that they're
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: rotating tells you everything i actually believe jokes aside but
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: like the team the other night that i have with
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: quorum in your kyron spot I think the next best
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: team that you were sweating was the one that I was,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have a way to beat was Kyron and Corum together.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And Corum over Rams defense.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And like, I could rip one. Again, you got to
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: build for that lineup.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: If you already think like there's no chance Atlanta does
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: anything tonight, you're building a hand, hand building a few lineups.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably not getting to that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: But if you have lineups where it's, you know, five,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: one Atlanta, or I actually think Atlanta comes through here and.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: That live movement is real.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: What's a way to not only get different with Bijan,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: but to play the backup running back with him. So
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I think there's a ton of opportunity from something like
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: that perspective. It is harder to try and figure out
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: how it would actually shake out on the green Bay side,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: but at price, it's gotta be possible. If you played
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Caleb and Chris Brooks for 9,400, but lineup better tell
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: a story. It has to make some sense. If you're
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: doing that, I don't have too much else to add
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: though at running back. So title, I'll stick with you
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and we go to a wide receiver.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I mentioned Drake.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: London earlier, um, golden and Watson project almost the same.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Their ownership is very similar.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: And one guy is $ 2, 000 less. So give me your
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: thoughts at the wide receiver position, both teams.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just for that alone, like you said, I expect
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Golden to be higher owned.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: No Jaden Reed.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: These guys are locked into every single two wide receiver set. Thankfully,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: like Hoop mentioned in the beginning, without Romeo Dobbs now
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: and Wicks, it's concentrated. Now without Reed, it's even more.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: They're very, very strong plays. Ownership's going to follow. But yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: it's hard for me to get away from. Other than that, though,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: on the Packers, then it gets pretty tough because there's
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: three guys. And I do think Sky Moore is the
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: clear one. Snap counts did show it. He out-snapped Bo Melton, out-snapped... Strudivant,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: but I mean, Strudivant and Melton still got 15% of snaps,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: nine of them. And then when you do look at
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: the prices, Bo Melton's 1200, Strudivant's 800. And when you're
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: looking at others in that range, like there's nobody, Charlie Warner,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I guess, whatever, but I'm going to play some Bo
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Melton and the Strudivant guy.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: When you do want to play a lot of studs
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Want to leave a little bit of money, when you
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: want to get different at low ownership, they're going to
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: be on the field on some three receiver sets. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I do think Sky Moore's ownership goes up quite a bit.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: So if you're playing any of them over Sky Moore
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: in a vacuum, you can eliminate a lot of dupes
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: that way. With that being said, though, just watching the
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: games and seeing it, Sky Moore looks phenomenal. He looks
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: like one of the best players for the Packers. He's
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: going to get some end around. He's a great punt returner.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: He's fast.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: He's going to be the one that's in most wide
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: receiver three sets. So at 2,400, like any Kyle Pitts
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: team at 6,600, you can play Sky Moore and leave
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: that 4K and he can outscore him in a vacuum.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: So I do think Sky Moore is a strong play.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: It just really comes down to how much steam does
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: he get is the big question. If he's projected at
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: 25% in the flex, I think he's a bad play.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: If he's 13%, I think he's a good play. So obviously, yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: we play an ownership game. On the Falcon side, it's
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: a lot easier. It's clearly Drake London. And then Jahan
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Dotson is actually probably my favorite way to get different.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: He played 75% of snaps. He's going to be out
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: there a ton. And he's $ 3, 000. So at 14%, a
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: guy that's going to be out there a ton. They're
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: expected to be trailing. I have quite a bit of
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: interest there. And then Zaccheaus, Zachariah Branch, the rookie, he's
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: not been up to speed yet. He's up 30% of
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: snaps week one, 20% week two.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Some of that was in garbage time. It clearly is
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Zaccheaus as their wide receiver three.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: So anybody that's going to be on the field with
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: a chance to catch passes for cheap, I have some
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: interest in. So When I need full punts and value,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: it's going to be at the receiver room on both sides. Zaccheaus, Dotson, Skymore, Melton, Strudivant. Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: unlike last late on Monday, we hated receivers. I think
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: that's the way to get different on this slate.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Hoop, I'll bring it to you in just a second.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: But I will say, to me, it's not like things
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: got any easier. We just went to this rotation at
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the running back position for Green Bay. All the talk,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: somebody had it in there before, but it's like there's
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: tons of talk about Skymore. Bo Melton was out there.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Like you said, we've actually watched him. I know you've
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: had calls on him in the past. We were, we
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: were Bo Melton and Dontavion Wicks before he moved to
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Philly now and is doing just fine, by the way,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: looking good over there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: So you got that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: And then Sturdivant was the preseason guy that people have
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: been talking about. So, and again, they're all like, to me,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: But Skymore 2400, Bow Mountain 12, Sturdivant, if I really
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: love the lineup, I may as well just play those three,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: cycle them through. Who knows who it's going to be
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: down there, but it's not that much easier on the
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Green Bay side at the wide receiver than it is
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: the running back hoop.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Now it's like taking my head back to the beginning
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: of like that love captain situation. Cause there's like so
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: many guys that he can, there's actually now it's spread
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: out even more. And especially if the old lines down
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: and he's got a, you know, if it's popular Tucker craft,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: that's helping block. And he's just having to scramble and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: get out there and throw it up. It reminds me
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: of what Aaron Rogers said a week ago. And I
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: was like, we throw to the open guy. Well, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: think all those guys can get pretty open shown, shown
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: capability in the past. So hoop, any, any extra thoughts
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: here at the wide receiver position, your thoughts on both sides.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with a lot of what you guys
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: are saying, but I think you kind of just touched
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on the key part of all this. Like if you're playing,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: if you're going to play these guys and you're building
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: multiple lineups, include all of them. Like, you know, who
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the hell knows who it's going to be? Like my
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: favorite for sure is probably Sky Moore. But like Bo Melton, Sturdivant,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: like and especially if you're playing a lot of Jordan
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Love captain teams, like don't I wouldn't exclude Sturdivant. any
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of these guys, I would mix them in. And the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: nice thing about looking at these past catchers, the cheap
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: ones is there's enough of them where no one's going
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to get like a ton of ownership. Like no one's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: going to become super popular because there's so many of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: these cheap options. So many guys, three K and below
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that we can play a title mentioned Dotson. I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Dotson's a really good play at three K and on
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: different slate, Dotson might end up being very popular because
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: there's not a, there wouldn't be a ton of cheap options, but,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: We do have a lot of cheap options. We have
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: cheap running backs that we've already talked about. So all
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of these guys, to me, are strong options. Dotson, Moore,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I think you can play Zaccheaus, Melton, and Sturdivant, I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: think are all in play. Look at the main guys.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: There's really not too much more to add. I mean,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I already said I love Watson and Golden in the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: captain spot, so that means I love them in the flex.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And same can be said about Drake London. And to me,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the Drake London price tag at $ 8, 800 is– you know, cheap.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's usually a 10 K guy when everything's
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: going right. So, um, you know, to me, I'm going
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to be playing a lot of these wide receivers, but again, the,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the cheap ones are so many of them. Ownership's going
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to get spread out. If you're playing Jordan love captain teams,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I'd make sure to definitely include all these cheap Packers
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: guys for sure.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I'll take us into tight ends.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I don't have anything else to add there, but I'll
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: say that's got me thinking right out of the gates here.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And it was like John who Smith, So.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: This guy is $ 2, 800 to Sky Moore's $ 2, 400.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Similar ownership, maybe a little less, whatever.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: But he's basically a double leverage because he's not a
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: cheap wide receiver option, which we just talked about. And
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Sky Moore could also get steamed. If you ask anybody
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: out there, search on X, do discords, talk to anyone
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: right now, they'll tell you for good reason probably that $ 2, 400
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: that Sky Moore is the best value on X. the
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Packers side. And like title said on the other side,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: it's Dotson at three K. Well, right between those two
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: prices is John who Smith. And he's also leveraged to
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: a popular Tucker craft who we've already established.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I kind of like craft more for captain or not.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of the way I'm thinking about it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Right? So if you obviously, if you've got love up top,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: you'd have some craft in there too and whatnot, but
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying people that just are assuming that it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: going to be him. If you had a 4-2 Atlanta
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: or something like that, I don't know if that would
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: be the case. There's so many other options that you
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: could go to. So I think Jonu is actually pretty
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: interesting at 2,800 on this slate to split the difference
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: of those value plays at wide receiver and also leverage
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously, Kraft, Pitts.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Pitts is fine as like a run back on the
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: other side. Penix could just lean on him a bit.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: He gets enough catches. It racks up, especially if it's
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: a lower scoring game or something like that. But title,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I'll go to you. Thoughts at tight end. Anything else
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: you want to add? we got you know hooper over
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: there charlie werner on the other side as well but
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: anything you want to add at tight.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: End i'm gonna play some werner they do run some
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: 12 personnel he's been on the field over 50 percent
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: of snaps in both uh or 49% his last one,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: a little over for, for the first one. But I mean,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: he's showing 3% ownership at 600. So if he does
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: outscore more Melton Strudivant, uh, and you can leave the
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: money there, it's like our Raritan.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And I saw Raritan got hurt, unfortunately. I hope prayers
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you never get a notification ever, but he did.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And I just knew everything was going to be okay
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: because prayers like he'll be taken care of.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: But yeah, maybe, uh, Charlie Warner's the Raritan from week one,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: but it's really he's just on the field, and it's
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: hard to really, really make a case for him. Janu,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: he's fine, but I mean, like last week, he played
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: a little over 20% of snaps, not one target. Against
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: the Vikings, though, he did catch a long ball and
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: almost actually broke it, but he was just wide open.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: It was a beautifully designed play call.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: $ 2, 800.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Eight and a half is his receiving prop, though. It's
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: really just a play to be contrarian. I do prefer
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: those wide receiver cheapies. that we talked about. And then yeah, correct.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Craft and Kyle pits. I still don't love craft today.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say when I see 28% versus 20%
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: and pits is 400 cheaper, I'll just say I prefer
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Kyle pits for the discount for the price and the
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: ownership a little bit. I think it's more wide receivers
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: and then Caleb Johnson, I'll be playing on the Packers.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Side, man.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Charlie Werner. This guy is big dude too. Six, five,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: two 50. Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Great blocker. That's why he's out there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, maybe today they hook him up, man. Let's see.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Um, he's, I mean, I would say he's doing about
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: equal to Raritan in the, in the marriage department. So
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I would say he's doing all right over there, but yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: this guy looks like he could be the guy tonight.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: So I'm, I'm interested in, uh, some Charlie now that
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: you brought him up and as a way to get different,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: he's another guy that just sort of plugs in there.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Cause 600 bucks, you know, it's, uh, Another thing too earlier,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: just knowing, I know we do FanDuel later, but Jonu
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Smith is cheaper on FanDuel than he is on DraftKings.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: And he's only 2,800 on DraftKings to start with. So
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: something like that. Another one I saw here, Newens, you
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: got to remember, we do have a rocket ship in
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: the logo. So, you know, Sky more, but also less
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Sky is more. Could be a possible thing too with
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: less is more. So you never know which side you're
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: going to want to end up on there. But I
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: just think Um, if anyone's picking up steam, like him
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: and Dotson are the guys that are picking up steam
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: as values. So some of these other guys, we make jokes,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: but there is reason to believe they could plug in
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: and find their way and, and move them around, especially
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: if you've got a portfolio. So I think it's at
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: least somewhat interesting to think about that. Like title, his
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: example earlier was great. Sometimes you see you got two
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: or 3% Charlie Werner and you'd.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Usually be like, Oh, I'm not, what's the point? I
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: only got them on two lineups or three lineups.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Now you might not be good just because title one
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: with it, but it's the point of We mentioned him.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: There's always a possibility. He's in there for a reason.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: He probably makes your lineup more unique, still has upside.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: If it ships, it could ship for a lot more.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: And that's the idea where if you see that you
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: might not want to just take that out of your
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: pool or whatever it might be.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: So hoop, anything else you want.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: To add here? Oh, I definitely like Tucker craft more than,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: than title just because I mean, without Jaden Reed, they're
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: going to need guys out there catching passes. I know
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: they're banged up on the offensive line, but maybe they,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: like that's where Johnny Smith or someone else comes into play.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I like, they're going to need to,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for me, I think they're going to need Tucker craft
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to catch some balls. So I'm very high on him.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I'm good with pits. Like, I just feel like if
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: they're passing the ball, man, it's going to be like
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: force feeding Drake London to kind of get them going today. So,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, not saying I don't like pits. Uh, he's fine.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Not like super excited again between the two. I know
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: craft is higher own, but, uh, I think they're going
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to need him fine with Johnny Smith. And, um, you know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: not super interested in the Atlanta cheapies.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Charlie Werner, big family man too. Wife is kind of funny.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: He said, you know, entering year six with two boys
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: in tow, the Werner family is ready for football, clear eyes,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: full hearts until the wheels fall off.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Catch me running 12 personnel in the stand.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: She knows.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Last line, you know, she knows the stuff, man. She's
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: really invested.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: So you love to see that, but yeah, not too
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: much else to add here. I think it's just, you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: similar to the other positions. You can move these guys around,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: but again, your, your lineup's, You want them to tell
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: a story and have them make sense. If you've got
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: a lineup where you were going to play Jonu Smith
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and you'd rather have Werner or something on the other
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: side for cheaper and it still fits the stack and
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: whatever you're doing, stuff like that is fine because you're
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: already being aggressive with that lineup in the first place.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: So I think it's fine from that perspective. Kickers and Ds,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I mentioned an earlier title. I mentioned like even if
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: there was going to be a captain night for it,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about like O-line breakdowns, things like that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: But any thoughts at the kickers and defenses here that
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: stand out to you?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: One thing Sky Moore is a punt returner, electric one,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: pairing him with the Packers defense for the double dip. Again,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: it's not something you have to do, but if Pennix
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: coming out first game in a long time, yeah, people
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: always say it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: It is a legit though. Like a Shaheed.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: You only, I only say it when I think these
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: guys are actually could break something once in a while,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: but it's always a stretch.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I do think Packers defense and Falcons though.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: It's a 42 and a half spread or spread.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: That'd be crazy.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: That's college 42 and a half total. Penick's first game
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: back in a while, probably limited, could be a statue,
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: like his movement. So Packers defense makes sense there. And then, yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: this Packers offensive line has been terrible. 3,400 is cheap
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: for the Falcons defense. Any Kyle Pitts team, Kraft, Smack, Folk,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: you drop down to Falcons D, you can leave some
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: money there.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Kickers, I'm fine with it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: To be honest, I'll probably be overweight at least three
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: of these four guys is my thought process.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: But he's been in the CFB streets. You can tell.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Half point spread.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You see it.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: NFL too often, my friend. But yeah, college football, most
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: certainly and more so. Yeah, I think you broke it
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: down good. I guess it's how you guys see the
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: game going. I think, again, if you're looking for a
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: way to get different with Bijan up top and not
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: super different, people will pair it, but obviously putting it
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: with the Falcons D or with Nick Folk or something
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: like that, you can get different that way. Leave some
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: money or get the guys that you actually want on
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: the other side because most wouldn't put Jordan love in there. There,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: there is something to be said to when a team
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: spreads it out as much as they do, or much
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: as they could on this slate that you could play
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Falcons D against love in this, in the flex, no problem.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, not like that's your big revelation.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's, it's, I don't think people will
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: hand click that in, but it's really a more of
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: a possibility when like love could control a lot of
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: the action. And it might be each running back. It's
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: a little something. The receivers are spread out. Some, you
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: just don't see it all condensed on one guy, but,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: So he could still be needed. And obviously if Penix
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: struggles on the other side and it's, you.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Know, you already got Bijan.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I just gave you the example, Bijan captain, Atlanta D,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Jordan Love in the flat, like that, that could be
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: a thing tonight and you fill the rest out, but
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: it's just a setup where that could work and he
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: could still outscore Penix, even with the D taking advantage
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: a little bit in a, in a build like that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think it's interesting. Trey smack with that name.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Got it. Got to put him in some lineups for sure.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Tonight.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Definitely excited to see how that shakes out, but a hoop,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: anything else you want to add at kicker and defense here?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I'm usually not super excited about defenses, but I think
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you can definitely make the case for both tonight for
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the reasons that you guys mentioned. Packers going at the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Penex and then Falcons going up against this poor offensive line.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Good with both. We already talked about our guy Smack.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Let's see. I know it's only two weeks in, but
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: before we totally stroke this, 10.5 average fans. Oh, Two
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: for two? Oh, yeah. We're in on eight fantasy points, 13.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: He could have had 11, too. They took points off
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the board against the Vikings week one.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: That's great information. That's actually really good information. So, yeah,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: definitely in on smack. And then who do you got?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Fulk on the other side?
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: But the smack guy. Something tells me he's going to
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: put the smack down on the slate tonight. So, I'm
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: in on smack.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Trey's smack, man.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: This guy, 216th overall draft pick.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: So, I got him in the sixth round.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And man in, in, all right.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: First career field goal was a 59 yard bomb. Just
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: no problem whatsoever. So yeah, maybe, maybe tonight's the night
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: for smack to, like you said, lay the smack down.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: That could be a thing. Trey day, right. Trey smack.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: We could see it.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think, Um, title always brings us up
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: and I think it's more, you know, a better way
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: to look at it, I guess is like from this
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: perspective is just the Falcons D is going way overlooked
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: to the other stuff.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Like it's very clear the Packers D against panics.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Well, of course the Carolina Panthers just took down this
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: team and stopped Bijan and Atlanta. But like title said,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: it was also rush. So you got to remember that.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: And then second, it's, they're the favorite at home and
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: you see all that. But the only thing they really
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: do is, is leverage Bijan ownership because most people aren't
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: going to have that where Bijan's in the captain and,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you know, Packers are in the flex or something or
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Packers in the captain and.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Don't play Bijon or whatever it might be.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: But the Falcons D could be the spot here tonight
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: and they would pair well with Bijon if you have
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: this flipping the other way. So I think that's the
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: more intriguing because they're the team. They're the one of
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: the four out of the two kickers and two defenses
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: that is most going overlooked.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: People play kickers, people play two kickers.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: And play one from either side for a lower scoring game,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: all these factors.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: With the total.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: But I do think it's somewhat interesting that the Falcons
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: are just the one that's completely overlooked here at.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: $ 3, 400 in the flex.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: So definitely makes a ton of sense. Um, who on FanDuel,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: we talked about it a little bit already. Um, I'll
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: let you take it away and see what you see there,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: but there is some interesting things like we talked about with,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: you know, Marshawn Lloyd being way up. John, who Smith
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: is cheaper on FanDuel than draft you know Tucker Kraft
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: is up that seems normal but what do you see
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: over there.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's definitely some pricing differences for sure even like
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Drake London where he's like 8800 on DK is all
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the way up to 11400 on FanDuel where, you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: wide receivers and pass catchers are already kind of penalized
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: with the scoring over there on FanDuel. Christian Watson's way
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: up there, 10.8K on FanDuel. And then Pennex, where he's
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: going to benefit more from FanDuel scoring, is only 10.2K.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: So there are some interesting pricing things at the top.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And then you immediately see Marshawn Moy at 9,400. You know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: The dude's 94 on FanDuel. He's got to compete with
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: those studs up top. I just can't– I don't even
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: know how you click that name tonight. Caleb Johnson, 4K
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: on DK, 7,200 on FanDuel. Again, you can make the case,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: but like at 72, he's got to do something and
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: he's got to beat the kickers. He's got to beat
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the defenses most likely. He's right there with Kyle Pitts
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: at 7,600. Matthew Golden's 82. So at 72, Caleb Johnson
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: is going to have to show up in a pretty
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: big way. Go down to the cheapies. Dots in 56. Again,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a price where you got to do
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: something more than a couple of catches at 56. So
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: not a great play there. Chris Brooks, 52. So I'd
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: say the value is is much more difficult on FanDuel
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: because those guys are not all the way down at
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the bottom. They're priced where they still probably have to
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: do something here. So I guess it is a little
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: bit different dynamic when it comes to roster construction because
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: of these pricing differences. And I think what you're going
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: to see is these kickers for sure. Our guy Smack
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: is 6,800. He's going to be owned quite a bit.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And then Nick Folk, 62. Like the kickers... are you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: know the best cheap plays on the slate so i
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: think those guys are going to get quite a bit
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: more ownership on on fanduel opposed to dk um just
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: because the cheap guys are just not that much cheaper
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: so uh yeah interesting dynamic i'd say on fanduel.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah title i don't know if you saw i might
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: play a little more on fanduel tonight i kind of
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: like this pricing how it sets up over there like
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: somebody said it too in the chat i posted i
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: think it was oracle said like um Was it?
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I just had golden is cheaper than craft.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I know it's only slightly, but these like some of
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: these prices are so close and some of them just
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: go skyrocket up. And then also to me, the most
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: enticing thing and why I said that off the top,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: why I kind of like it over there tonight is
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: I saw it's a hundred cap top, but also, uh,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: bijan just gets even more um ownership over obviously it
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: fits him quite well and i get that but i'm
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: just saying it's like that leaves an even bigger delta
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: that you can get on so you could play 35
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: bijan match the field play all your lineups accordingly and
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: in a way that i mean where like you'd have
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: a chance to ship or like low dupes whatever but
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: you'd still be able to get overweight on london uh
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: love Watson, golden crap, whatever you like really Caleb Johnson
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: might be one or 2% over there. And it's again,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: it's probably fits him better. What if it is a
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: lower scoring game and all that, and you have the
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: pricing to fill it out with. So yeah, I have
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: some interest in the FanDuel stuff more tonight than usual.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I think that's interesting.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: FanDuel is definitely tough.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Bijan might be 60% plus at MVP, but yeah, the
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: main thing is the value you guys touch on like
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: the golden price and London and Watson, there's definitely differences
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: in prices, but the value is absolutely terrible. Like the,
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: The guy that's going to be on the field that's
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: the cheapest is Charlie Warner at 1.8K, Janu then at 2.4,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: Bo Melton 3, Strutivin 3.4, Zaccheaus 4.2, Skymore 4.8. These
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: are the guys that I think I'm going to have
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: to play a decent bit of. And I don't even
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: hate the idea if you want to completely punt full
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: 1K with someone that you don't even think is going
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: to touch the field. But as long as you don't
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: leave 800, I mean, Charlie Warner can obviously always blank
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: and so can Janu. So I guess you could still
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: play Redman and leave 800-plus, I'd rather probably leave less
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: than 800, though, but play someone that's pretty much almost
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: not projected, stone minimum, only leave $ 400, and then maybe
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: the studs do enough and these guys are overpriced where
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: you just jam all of them in, you take a zero,
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: and that guy's going to be less than 1% anyway,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: so it gets you on a different roster construction while
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: only playing five guys. I do think that is in
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: play today on Fandu with how tight the pricing is.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: These guys are overpriced.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And that's, again, I usually like that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: So that's, that's what I'm thinking, but yeah, I would
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: still try and find the 800 bucks for Werner.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: So we don't take a full on zero. I think
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: this guy's going to have a big night after we
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: talked him up, maybe.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: So I got to cheer for our guy, Charlie over there,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: by the way, Charlie, speaking of Charlie, the chocolate factory,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: do you guys see on Netflix? There's a new Wonka
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: series talking about golden tickets, just like we got ship
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: at games with the golden tickets. So I thought that
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: was somewhat interesting too. We, we copied them and, And
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: now they're coming back at us. They're coming back, bringing
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: back the Netflix golden tickets. So, you know, everyone's trying
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: new things these days.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: It's good. We're back at it. Title, any final thoughts
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: from you before we get out of here?
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm always excited for any NFL game
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: with 500K or whatever we got up top. And then
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: for it to be my Packers makes it even more fun. So, yeah,
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: let's get to the top of the leaderboards.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Hopefully your team does better than my team did last Thursday.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Hey, my team could lose by 50. If I'm at
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: the top, I could care less. So as long as
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: we're up there.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: If those don't know that by now, Ravens just got
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: beat by the Saints in Baltimore.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Unless I play them in Survivor, which I'm already pretty
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: much dusting. Unless I go that route, then I want
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: them to win.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: By the way, is that 1K getting any action? Didn't
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: they run back to 1K on Splash?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I should look because I'm dust.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: It's very low.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: 234 out of 1,100.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: They always like bringing it to the last minute, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: that is at least somewhat interesting. Yeah, a lot of
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: stuff going on there. A lot of smack talk on the.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Survivor Streets out there. A lot of new experts in
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: the streets as well, Hoop.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Man, do not get me started on that.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: We've got five minutes left. Do you have any rants
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: at all?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: You don't want me to. It's just so funny. I'll
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: take the bait. I'll take the bait. It's just so
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: funny how these guys, they're so shameless. They go from being...
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: experts in one thing and then they just go on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: to the next to the next to the next and
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: just pretend like they're experts in everything we start out
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: with dfs and then they went they go to sports
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: betting and then they go to uh showdown slates and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: then they go to best ball and then they go
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to prediction markets and now they're going now they're survivor
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: experts and then they've never played and they're experts and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: survivors like our guy sheets like if you want survivor
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: content you know, watch sheets and he's on a different,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: he's on a channel that's not associated with us anymore.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Like what he does, he gives the best free content
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the survivor stuff, going to give
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: credit where credit's due. You don't need to pay somebody
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  Speaker 1: years and understand it. These guys are hopping into the
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• 56:39
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• 56:42
  Speaker 4: The the hoop hate bait we got them today here it.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Doesn't take much i'm in like i mean i'm just
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  Speaker 1: yeah i took the bait instantly.
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  Speaker 4: what they used to call.
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  Speaker 2: It um yeah the baby run good Yeah.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: But there's like a thing, like, uh, I forget who
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: it was used to call it the father narrative, but
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: it wasn't that, but it sounded funny when it was
• 57:15
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• 57:17
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• 57:18
  Speaker 4: it the father narrative? But it's, what do they call it?
• 57:20
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