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Disney World Is Always Under Construction: Should You Go Now or Wait? · The Worst: Beyond the Magic

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Disney just announced a ton of new rides, lands, and changes coming to Walt Disney World.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Which means that Disney planners everywhere like us are asking the exact same question.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Should we wait?
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: The answer is no.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't even started the episode.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but if you're waiting for Walt Disney World to be finished before you go, then you're never going.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's very fair.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because by the time you think you're you're waiting for things to open, Disney will have torn something else down in the meantime.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Disney World.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: The world's most c magical construction site.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the worst beyond the magic.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome back, Pete.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh good to see you again.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um for those of you watching at home on YouTube and on our Apple Podcasts, uh, Pete has a new location.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we had a bit of a delay again.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: It seems to be a common theme with us.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're trying people, we're trying, we're trying folks to get things out on time.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh life happens, it gets in the way, and Pete moved.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so if you look behind him, you see a bunch of blank walls.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: And Pete has assured me, haven't you, Pete, that things are Disney-esque things are gonna go on those blank walls behind you, right?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's the nature of some of this delay, is this this monumental move.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: But this is the new uh Southwest Studios here.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: We've got uh we're gonna put some Disney here, some Disney here.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: Any recommendations?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm all ears.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: All ears, I like it.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so today's episode, we're not gonna spend 30 minutes reading D23 announcements to you.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: There are a thousand places where you can get that all over the internet.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: And truthfully, Pete and I are a little bit late uh to the party on announcing these things, but that's okay.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: We like talking about it anyway.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you for listening.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to talk about what's actually changing at Walt Disney World and why it matters when planning a Walt Disney World vacation.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: Disney vacations constantly evolve.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh attractions are going to open, some new attractions will open, some old attractions will close, lands change, evolve or die, right?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Lightning lane changes, uh, rope drop strategy changes, um, dining changes, there's new restaurants, there's ones that aren't as good as they used to be, construction changes and how you move through parks.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, advice from last year's vacation may already be as likely outdated already.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Jamie.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I got a question to kick things off.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: How far ahead should someone actually plan Disney?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think if you and I are planning it for them, which I obviously highly recommend.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um I know our show says we're the worst, but actually Pete and I are actually pretty good at this, believe it or not.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um I like to think that five stars.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: I like to think that uh four to three months out is actually the perfect time.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: It leaves us a month to talk about how many days we want, what type of tickets do we want, um, what type of a resort you want to stay at.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then at 60 days out, that all-important 60 days out is our dining reservation window.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that month prior, we're talking about yes, I want character dining, no, I don't.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is where we want to eat, my kids don't like characters.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what else do you recommend?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, again, four to three months out, I think is is the is the perfect timing.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to be super special and book it a year out, then we can book it a year out.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: But uh if you're if you're waiting for um the right time, the perfect time, I think four to three months out is is pretty good.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think, Pete?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're right.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think there's always something coming.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think the theme of what we're trying to say is um, you know, go with what works for you as opposed to wait waiting for the new thing.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: I know we got all the excitement of the D23, the D23, but if you were waiting for Guardians, you could have waited for Tron.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you were waiting for Tiana's, you could be waiting for Mostropolis, Podcast and Pete, Villains Land.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, Disney's pretty good at giving you something new, trying to get you to come back every year.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so at some point, go to Disney World.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just go.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just go, but call us first.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, don't forget to call.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're you're your six-year-old doesn't care what's opening up four years from now.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're six now.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that becomes an important theme throughout this episode.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna get any better, it's not, it's definitely not gonna get any cheaper.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and things will always be evolving, always be changing.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was what that was Walt's vision, right?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a forever-changing place.
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  SPEAKER_00: There it's never finished.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: The imagination is never through.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm still mad about Toe's Wild Ride, but I get it.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about it later.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to give you any uh um make you angry just now, right away in the beginning of the episode, but we'll talk about your all-important uh island that you had to go to that's now being torn down in the boat to get there.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: But again, I don't I don't want to stir feelings now.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hold on, we'll get there.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: We'll get there.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's too early for feelings.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me how angry it is.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: You have feelings?
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: You have feelings last year.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Just the one about the dang island about Tom Sawyer's Island.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, segment number one, Pete.
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  SPEAKER_00: What actually matters when planning right now at this very moment?
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: Before we get into D23, uh, we're gonna talk about what Disney World guests are actually visiting today, what matters today.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: What's the biggest mistake people are making planning at Disney World right now, Pete?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think a big part of it is just thinking, and I know we stress this in a lot of episodes, it's just thinking that you can show up.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: You can show up and have a great time.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, people like to be spontaneous, they like to live their life.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um and for me, like I'm that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I want to go with the flow kind of guy.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: But in order to go with the flow at Disney World, you need to make your reservations.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: You need to plan your day.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really when you open yourself up to that extra Disney magic.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you're not um fighting tantrums, trying to figure out what to do or what line to get in, if you have a plan and a course of action, it definitely saves a lot of time.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: So for me, that is uh, I think when people are planning, um, they're not giving it enough credit.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: And if that stresses you out, um, you know, feel free to call us.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: We love it.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's our happy place.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're happy to help you out.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: How about you, Jamie?
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's right.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's true.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's exactly right.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: He took the words straight from my mouth.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: It is our happy place.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: So what we really it's what we really truly enjoy doing, isn't it?
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not our daytime jobs.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's it's his job.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: In my daytime job, I dream about this one.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: It helped, it helps pay for that that vacation.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think you hit it the nail on the head, my friend.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you you talked about over planning a little bit, underplanning.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, those two things go hand in hand.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we like to have a good time.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we like to show up and be spontaneous and see things that we haven't seen before and kind of go with the flow a little bit.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: But like Pete mentioned, it does take a little bit of effort on our part and your part together as a team to plan out a couple of different things ahead of time so you're not just lost in the sauce.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: And going to a Disney your very first time, you're gonna get lost in the sauce.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna happen.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: And but that's what we're trying to avoid.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I know I mentioned overplanning and underplanning.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's a that's a fine line.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a really fine line.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: You we we're not trying to plan every second of every day, right?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's miserable.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're not trying to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fourth march of happiness, we're not here for that.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's knife hand, right?
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's that's uh army p talking.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're not doing that.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um we have to understand lightning lanes ahead of time.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're not we don't want you to try and accomplish everything in one day either.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: What else, Pete?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think um another big part of it is trying to go for all the trendy, themey, big things.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then you leave out a lot of what created the parks and made them really special.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I know we talked about you know the conservation uh at Animal Kingdom and and really seeing the animals and taking time to see the small things.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um taking time for it's a small world.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: I know people complain about the music and it gets stuck in your in your head.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it is the stuff that built the park, um, you know, and enjoying the the moments there um while you're there, the smells, the sights, the sounds, the your family.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: So don't try to build uh your itinerary around the big attractions, but do what your family wants to do.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Do what your family loves.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: If you know you like winning the poo, you're gonna make time for that.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely, definitely winning the poo.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um so that leads us to this.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Where do we get all this information from?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, people our age and younger immediately turn to social media.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I know we and I we've talked about this a million times before, especially on previous episodes, where there's a lot of outdated social media on what Disney News.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, right now, D23 is all over uh the internet, Instagram, TikTok, you name it.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's out there.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so there's a some bit updated stuff, but the the algorithm out there likes to throw in some outdated stuff too.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I know we've talked about before, these people, these influences out here are looking for it, looking for clickbait.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: They'll watch, they're looking for reviews.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: So they may see something or say something that's kind of outrageous and they know it's outrageous, but it gets people to watch it, and therefore they give you the wrong advice or outdated advice.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, who's gonna give you the good advice?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Pete and I.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Pete and I are gonna get this guy right here by the guy.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're trying to give you the stuff.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we say it's the worst because we want you to manage your expectations because a lot of people go in there with the, oh, I'm gonna have the most amazing trip.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna follow all these trends uh things I heard on TikTok, and we're all gonna be the happiest we can be.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, we want to tell you the great things that Disney's doing and the great things that they're bringing, but we also want to show you the worst side of it, you know, so that you can manage your expectations and actually have a good time.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll we'll we'll introduce you to Mickey, but we'll show you where the mouse droppings are.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: There, I like that.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Man, that's that's a great line.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so if I were to ask you, Pete, if I was a brand new uh Disney family coming to you with my family of five, and I would say, Pete, help me.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: How many, how many days should we do?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: What would be the right answer?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: What would be the recommended answer that you would give that person?
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: So for me, I'm gonna give you the travel day.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get there on a on a day.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say you get there on a Saturday, and then that's so that's one day.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna do park number one and park number two of your choice.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: I would start with Magic Kingdom and then Epcot, if that was me.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: So then you've got three days total.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Then you're gonna throw a rest day in there.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's your fourth day.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Then you're gonna do your other two parks, the remaining two parks on five and six, and then you're gonna travel on seven, or take another rest day, um, hit Disney Springs, do all your shopping, and then travel home on the eighth day.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: For me, seven days is perfect.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I think I think that's perfect.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh I think seven seven days for me is exactly where you want to be.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I you're a little more aggressive than I am, and that's that's okay.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: You're entitled to your wrong opinion.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: We talked about so I do a little bit more rest days.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: I do park day rest day, park day rest day, park day rest day.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh um, that being said, right now the parks, because of what D23 announced, are all torn up.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: So right now at Magic Kingdom, things look pretty good, right?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Tomorrowland is about to go uh under construction with um Carousel Progress, right?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Epcat looks pretty good right now, too.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Hollywood Studios, however, on the other hand, is not.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um all of the famous rides are still there, still operating, but a large part of the park where Monstropolis is going uh is uh is under construction or will continue to be under construction for years to come.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: They did say that they're gonna open it up uh 2027.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: The rock and roller coaster was reimagined by the Muppets that's there, uh Hollywood uh Tower of Terror, Rise of Resistance, obviously.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all these other rides are still there and operating.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: However, there's a large construction site right kind of in the middle of the park.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: So something to keep in mind.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: That leads me to Animal Kingdom.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Pete, while you and I were both in Animal Kingdom together back in January for retreat, um there were there were go-away green walls all over the place.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um Tropical Americas is coming to Animal Kingdom.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: And because of that, again, large construction site.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think you agree the same that Animal Kingdom is a half day park anyway.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be interesting to see now that Tropical Americas will be um there as well as uh the Indiana Jones ride that was announced.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see if people treat that as a half day park going forward.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: But right now, as of recording in 2026, there's a lot of construction going on.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Again, something to keep in mind, something to think about.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: What are your ultimately dates for right now?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds like you're looking at seven to eight as well.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like you can match up parks if you're half day in a couple of them because of the construction.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think um I think it's okay to do uh I'm I'm usually not a park car per gunner guy.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Usually I recommend one park per day.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: However, um because of the depending on the age of your children, uh, if they're not older and they're not thrill seekers, Hollywood Studios may not be your best option.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one because a lot of it's under construction.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Also, the rides there tend to be a bit older for older kids, and the height restrictions go come along with that.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then Animal Kingdom as well, under construction, uh heavily under construction.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: There's only so many things to do.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: But again, I know we've talked, I'm not one who's stopping to smell the roses and looking at every single animal that's there.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's certainly something you could do in lieu of going on all the rides or uh avoiding the construction area that's in that park.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: So that's just what I was about.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's the whole premise of the Animal Kingdom.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna ask you that.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Should you stop visiting because there's construction?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or wait.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so at all.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think so?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think um it's just tough because Disney isn't just refurbishing a couple of rides.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: They're changing like a lot of things.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where that's where no, they are.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: They are, and that's where the D23 announcements actually matter.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're changing, you know, entire sections of the park.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Not the entire park, but uh large sections of the park.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: So um what is what is it?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: What is coming?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Do we care?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Should we wait for it?
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's the big the next big thing?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: We won't put any dates on this because Disney definitely uh has its own timelines, but what's the first thing we're looking at?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: We got a we got a couple of dates out of it, but we'll we'll mention those a lot of it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of dates here released what's happening and what they're building.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: However, they're not uh releasing dates except for a few, and we'll talk about those.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um this is our segment talking about D23.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: So if you've heard about it, feel free to skip forward.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna we're gonna mention a couple of different things.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna mention everything.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: The stuff we actually care about with D23.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Number one, and Pete, I'm sorry, here it is.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna mention to you so long, Liberty Bell, so long, Tom Sawyer's Island, Piston Peak National Park has made its way to Magic Kingdom.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: My man Tom Sawyer.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: You and your buddy Tom Sawyer.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: I love Tom Sawyer, and I think we've mentioned this in other episodes too, but I mean it is evolve or die.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know that um the younger generation today is really connecting with uh Tom Sawyer in the same way that we did when we were younger, or I did when I was younger anyway.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think you know Disney needs to um keep its fan base, it needs to connect with people and give them um the fantasy or the disconnect that they're looking for for a fun time.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: And so I don't know that that's Tom Sawyer's Island.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I will always be nostalgic for it.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was great to run around.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: My daughter loved it.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um we played in the caves, we played pirates, uh, we had a great time.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: It was a really it was kind of a break from the hustle and bustle of the park.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: However, that being said, I've seen Disneyland and what they've done there for cars land.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm really looking forward to Piston Peak National Park.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty amazing.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to give us a quick rundown of what uh Piston Peak is gonna be?
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's a cars-themed expansion uh of Frontier Land.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be replacing, as we said, the former rivers of America, Tom Sawyer's Island.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the Cars Ridge Run Rally.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's a major attraction, an off-road cars adventure through the wilderness of Piston Peak, which sounds pretty freaking amazing.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then Miss Fritter Daredevil Spin-Along.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's a newly announced second attraction.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's more family-oriented experience featuring a huge Miss Fritter audio animated animatronics figure.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, so what do you think about that one, Jamie?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: You think that'll be good?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I I can't wait for it.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Now, like you said, over in our West Coast friends who are in Disneyland, they've lived with it for years now.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's not Piston Peak, but it's their version, right?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's Carsland.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: That ride is incredible, and I'm excited to see what they bring that to the Magic Kingdom.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I am upset about, and I know you can get behind me on this, is all the people online on TikTok and Instagram.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't believe they got rid of Tom Sawyer's Island that you didn't go to.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: So nobody, nobody went to those places, and that's why they're gone.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, like like Pete's obvious theme here, evolve or die, like he likes to say.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they had to change something, and I think it was time.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I can attend every time we went to Tom Sawyer's Island, nobody was there.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they made these changes.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: I personally never rode uh the Liberty Bell.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: I personally never went to Tom Sawyer's Island.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um they just they just weren't my cup of tea, I guess.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Eighth grade was the last time I rode the Liberty Bell.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all right, so opening.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about opening for this ride or for this uh part of the park?
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't did you get any information?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I did not get a date on this one.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Disney has not announced any opening dates for or a year for this.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe 2028 or 29, it's speculation.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have an opening date.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: They specifically left out the part, hey, we're gonna open it on this day.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's not included in the D23 announcements.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Shocker, right?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we knew we knew that we knew that was coming.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Here's my question though.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that fits?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think I think it fits with what they're doing with Piston Peak.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think that part fits.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think that fits perfectly in where Frontierland is.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I I I think that was that was perfectly planned.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like that they threw in cars.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think they're keeping it on the adventurous side of things, just like Tom Sware's Island, and obviously you're in Frontierland.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's a perfect fit.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think where they did this right was um it's an off-road adventure.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Had it been a racetrack, I think it wouldn't have fit so much, but you can kind of almost see the cars going through the the towns, the frontier, like it makes sense to me.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for it.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let's move on.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: What's our what's our next uh d23 announcement that we want to talk about?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: The next big one for Magic Kingdom.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, this is yeah, I'm super excited about this.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna tease it a little bit.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: We got what do we got?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Jafar, we got Scar, you got your favorite Ursula, we got my favorite the evil queen, we got Maleficent.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: What we have, my friends, is Villain's Land.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that is coming to Magic King.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: And what was and what did the Disney officially name this land, Pete?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Disney.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um the name of it is uh officially it's a villain's land, right?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like this is a trick.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little it's a little underwhelming.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they they're like, we want to build a villains land in Walt Disney World, the Magic Kingdom, and this is the name.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's Villains Land.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's the name of it.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they could have the imaginaires could have thought up a little bit more of a magical name for that, but hey, here we are.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Duh, obviously.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love that they're included all these, all these different uh villains in it.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I know I mentioned in the past I like Ursula, I think she's brilliant.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love even more I love Hades.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's my favorite.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's my favorite uh villain out there.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: The man is sarcastic, he's evil, he's uh like vindictive, like I don't know, he's funny.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just love the guy.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's my favorite, um, he's my favorite Disney villain out there.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so what do we know about Villain's Land?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: We know that we are getting a maleficent coaster.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this I'm stoked for this.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is gonna be good.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh also they're building a Magic Mirror Dark Ride.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're not really entirely sure.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm gonna read a little bit of text uh from Magic Magic Mirror Dark Ride.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: The guests enter through the beneath the evil queen's palace and encounter the magic mirror.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the mirror transports guests into a realm filled with Disney villains.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Plus, there's gonna be dining, there's gonna be shopping, large immersive environments, uh, multiple classic villains.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: And opening date, how about how about for an opening date?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Did we get one?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: We still haven't gotten one for this one yet either.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Disney's very tight left about when they're putting stuff out.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm I'm I'm pretty excited about this one in the sense that um you know, Disney's getting a little bit darker.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're trying to keep up.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: With Epic and their friends down the street, giving them an opportunity to change the theme a little bit.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Not everybody loves rainbows.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, not everybody loves happy go luckiness.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: They like a little bit more of an edginess, a little bit more of a goth or an emotional experience.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I I love that they're Disney's like, all right, I got something for you too.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I I think it'll be really neat to get those uh under unsung villains uh their their rightful place.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's not all sunshine and rainbows all the time, is it?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely not.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I know this is a Disney podcast, but speaking about our friends up the street at Universal, um going to see the the wizarding world of Harry Potter is unbelievably immersive, and that's something that Pete and I can do for you too, as well.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I as if I'm gonna pick a house, you know what house it's gonna be?
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: Take a guess.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: What house do you think I am?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Slytherin.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely it's Slytherin.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know why?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun to be bad.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun to be bad.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's why there you go.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: You you strike me as a Hufflepuff kind of guy.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know how to take that.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: All right, anyway, back to it.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Forget everything for a second.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is this worth waiting for?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think we answer that question right away.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's cool.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm excited for it to come and it's gonna tear apart the middle of the park.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: But um your kids are only young once, right?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: And there's that magic is only gonna be in their eyes for a certain amount of time.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: I know that we're gonna continue to go back uh year after year, um, as long as our kids allow us to, and as long as we we continue to enjoy doing it.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it I think you have to strike where the iron's hot.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think you you you only have a certain period of time where your kids are gonna enjoy this type of uh magical experience, and you construction or not, you're just gonna have to go through it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um again, is it worth waiting for?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't think so.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think you I think you just gotta go.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think with the uh the popularity of the booty and Mickey's Not So Scary uh Halloween party, the parades, the villains.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really surprised they didn't build something around the villains earlier.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think Disney had a reason for that?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think I think you you said it earlier when they were trying to keep up with Epic.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is this is an exact retaliation of what happened.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Epic Universe has been open down the street now for over a year now, just over a year.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they've kind of Disney's kind of learned the takeaways from that.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: What's working, what's not working, what are people liking, and um so I think they're taking a page out of Universal's book in order to make this a more immersive land and and cater to more of the the darker side of things.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because you I mean, just about every Disney movie out there that one of the parents gets killed, who kills the parent?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's the villain.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: So we had to talk about the villains, don't we?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: They deserve their own land.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I I think um I think this is good timing.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think um I don't think they should have done it earlier.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Again, um it's in a response to Epic Universe.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's my feeling.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Do you um do you think that uh this could become your favorite section of Magic Kingdom?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: You yeah, nice.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I agree.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think that that it could be it depends on what the the rides are, but it sounds what they have, their plan for it, and the immersiveness and the and the the completeness of it, it sounds like it could be really good.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I know you mentioned Hades, but give me one more.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Which villain do we need to make sure shows up at this?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Man, that's a good question.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think we I know we talked about Ursula.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I think you mentioned Scar as well, right?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think he is another good one.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: Again, the man he he's just evil, like he doesn't he doesn't like his nephew, obviously.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um he killed his brother, like it's just he he tries to imply guilt on his nephew for what happened, tried to blame it on him, like it does all these different things.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the man is just pure evil.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I like him as much.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: I like Hades because he's funny, right?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's sarcastic, but Scar is Scar is just truly has hate in his heart, and I think he's gonna I think he's gonna get a large part of this park.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um would this convince a delay the once-in-a-lifetime people?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: I know I've said we're gonna go on this once-in-a-lifetime trip once a year, but there are people out there that we're only doing Disney one time.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll answer that ahead of you in that we we just keep answering it.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta go when when you get when when is right for you.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: When the kids are on vacation, if you don't like uh too much heat when it's not summer, you know, I don't think you can wait for one specific thing.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's great.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's perfect.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: You definitely you definitely hit the nail on the head there.
• 27:01
  unknown: Yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's move on to my my favorite park, uh, which is Disney's Hollywood Studios.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what do we know about the Disney Hollywood Studios, Pete?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, um, you mentioned at the beginning, we have some excitement in Monstropolis.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: So if you are a fan of the Monsters movies, um, this is where things get interesting.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: This um begins to open in 2027.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it looks like it's the nearest target.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we I just was at Hollywood Studios.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of construction there along with Animal Kingdom.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but this is gonna open in phases.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: So for 2027, we're gonna get the Welcome to Metropolis.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: So it's easy.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: You get the new theater show hosted by Mike and Sully, and I hope it has a little bit of the laugh floor um funness to it.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you get Harry Housen's, which is a table service restaurant based on the the restaurant that we hear about all through Monsters Inc.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Archie's Japanese restaurant where they discover boo.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: And Archie's Scare Pig Pizza, it's a quick service pizza restaurant.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: So they're going with the easy targets, they're kind of like slow rolling this one out, which is nice.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're gonna give you a scareporium merchandise location, and guests will be able to explore Monstropolis itself.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: So you're gonna be able to start to see um the area in and of itself and what that's gonna look like.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's gonna be cool.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're not getting the best and coolest part of the park.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're not getting the the door coaster.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: We're not getting that.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I am incredibly excited about this.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's gonna be um some just um immersive theming, just unbelievable ride technology that we have not seen before at Disney.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: It looks really cool.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm truly excited.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: It really looks really cool.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for this one.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the the door coaster is what we're not getting.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's the first suspended coaster at Walt Disney World Park.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: It has a vertical lift inspired by the Door Vault sequence of Monsters Incorporated.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that's how they get to the rooms to scare the kids, or later on in the movie, and if spoilers, when they make them laugh, right?
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: They still they still need energy either way.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the coaster opening is TBD.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have a date on the coaster at all.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Disney has not announced an opening year as of yet.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this creates kind of a completely different planning question, Pete.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Do you go to Minstropolis when it opens?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um so you know, we like to go frequently, so that's an easy question for me.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know I'm gonna go, but then I'll be back when everything is done a year, two years down the line.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I don't think you wait.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're gonna get Disney's gonna give you a piece of the pie.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you might miss the roller coaster, but it's if your kids love monsters, ink, then don't wait.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if if you do get the opportunity to come back and you really, really love it, then you set yourself up for a return trip.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: But if you just got that one piece of the pie, I I guarantee your kids are gonna remember what they did.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the restaurants seem really cool, and then um the first part of it with the theater show.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like I, you know, when you put Mike and Sully together, they are they've got a great rapport and they're written really well, so I I guarantee it'll be a laugh.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: What about you?
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Comedic dynamic duo for sure.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that leads us to our planning verdict for this one.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: 2027, do we go or do we wait?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you tell me.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think we go.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think we go too.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think we go to that.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a um a common answer that you are gonna hear throughout this episode is don't wait.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Don't wait at all.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then we'll let you know how that coaster is because we're gonna go at some point in time.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we're definitely gonna go.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: And by that time, we should have some cameras that we can uh use my metaglasses.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: Something we need we need you need something to get some footage off of that.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we might have some followers.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I hope so.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: I hope so.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: I and uh again, apologies for the delay in our our uh putting out our episodes.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: I know uh we've dropped off a bit.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think our goldfish died, Pete.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's my fault.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's my fault.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Resuscitate that goldfish.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh put them in a new new fish bowl, feed him some new food, something, get them back swimming again, just keep swimming.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being patient with us.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, thank you.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks again for listening each week.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Segment number three, rapid D23, care or don't care.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: All right, yeah.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is gonna be our care or don't care.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna ask you the very first one.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: I care.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't ruin it.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Don't ruin it.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Tropical America's Animal Kingdom coming 2027, including Indiana Jones and the myth of the jade serpent, snakes.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why did it have to be snakes?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Just Indiana Jones.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, sir.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be Harrison Ford.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it's gonna be.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna use his likeness because he's Harrison Ford.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody else can be nobody else can be Indiana Jones.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, um, I like Encanto too.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love Indiana Jones, and I I mean I'm going for that.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: But I'll stick around for Encanto.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: I care about that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we care.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Our consensus is we care, right?
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, this is one thing that we didn't talk about.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: The Expedition Everest Yeti.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Did you ever when Yeti was working?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: You're now using you're wearing DCL.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: I have a uh I have a Yeti shirt that's just like this one.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I've seen that one.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen that one.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you ever ride the Yeti when it was working?
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly don't remember.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like, but I'm thinking of the shadow because the shadow moves, but I don't think I've ever seen the Yeti move.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now he now he's lovingly called disco yeti.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Disco Yeti.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's disco yeti because you get the flashing disco light and strobe light because you can't see the yeti anymore because he broke like 20 years ago, and Disney has never spent the time or money to try and fix him because of where he's located, I guess.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: There's some excuse.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: But uh D23 announced that they are gonna spend the money, they're gonna spend the time, they're gonna fix the Yeti.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we will see him again in that ride.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, fingers crossed, again, we don't have a time opening on this one again.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: Do we care?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do we don't care?
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Were we excited about the Yeti?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it's unexpected, right?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you um, because this is an easy one to pick, I don't care, because I really do care about all the other ones.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna pick I don't care because I love the Yeti.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: I love it if he moves.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: If he doesn't move, he's my boy.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: He's there.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Disco Yeti or not.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we just keep him disco yeti?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: I like disco yeti.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Disco yeti, actually.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: How about spaceship earth updates?
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Does that need an update?
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it does.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: It does need an update.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I still won't ride it.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Even if it's a walk on, you're not gonna ride it.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even um now you're not gonna go thank the Venetians.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: They don't care about you either.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's alright.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh thing they do.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be shut down for a long time.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's like real bad in there.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's some bad 90s technology.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: And same with carousel progress, which we'll talk about next.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: These are both long overdue.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I'm upset about for carousel progress is that they're going to put my era of childhood, the 90s, into carousel the progress.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: So now that means I'm an antique now.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: That means something people talk about in the past.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: It hurts, it hurts my one feeling.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Accept it, Jamie.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Accept it.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the 90s uh decade will be in the carousel progress, and then we'll see you from that point forward.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna start in 1969 during the moon launch, and then go forward from there until today.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I never was a fan of Carousel Progress.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Do you?
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I wasn't.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean it was a one and done.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: There's nostalgia to it, but yeah, no.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: All right, that's our last thing to talk about there in segment number three.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Segment number four, go now or wait.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think we've we've talked about this.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: We beat this dead horse throughout this entire episode.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, is this brings everything back to planning?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um tell me what your verdict is.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think we know the answer to this.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the answer for you is.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Is I'm gonna go now.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't spaceship earth has always been a skip for me.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so while it's closed down, I won't I won't know the difference.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Catching balls still.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly where you'll be.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be there with you.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: First time Disney family should be go now or wait.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um so there's a sweet spot for missions uh mission space, and that is um maybe about nine or ten years old, where that information, newness, and is really cool.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um I still don't think it's that much of a draw.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you'll see the outside, you'll see the the globe, if you will.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and I think if you're an adult, you can go to GO82.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think you're missing anything.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: Go now.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Family with young kids, go now or wait.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh go now.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: Go now.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Kids don't stay the same age while Disney's building attractions, right?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: They continue to grow, they continue to get older.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the magical spark around the corner of their eye will dissipate eventually.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's good to take them while they're young and they still believe and they believe in that magic.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm 41 years old.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: Pete's a little bit older than I am.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: We still believe in the magic.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we do this.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're here.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I it it's never die, right?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: We never die.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all right.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: So huge monsters incorporated family going in 2027, are we waiting for the coaster?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, easy answer.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know that this is an easy answer.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: There are people out there.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you are one of those people that has monsters ink on every inch of your wall, um, and that is your thing, like monsters ink, then you gotta wait for it.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I don't know that I don't know those people.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: I know the Star Wars people, and I know a lot of them did wait for Star Wars to open.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they made the lines very long for me.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I get it, like that's your thing.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you love Star Wars.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: There are people out there, I know my daughter loved um the different characters at different times.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we would have had to wait for Stitch if Stitch was coming out with something new.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: We would have had to have done that.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I get it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, for me, though, I don't want to dissuade anybody.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I am I'm all about going now because something new will change, and I'll want to do that another that other thing, and I'll have to same up for it.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's I think that's a perfect answer.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: And again, it's the theme throughout this entire episode.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like this one.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who visits once every five to ten years, there are believe it or not, there are those people out there, they're not us, but there are those people that want to visit every five to ten years.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do they go now or do they wait?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: If they just went last year, should they wait another five years before they go?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Or ten years and wait for all these things to open, wait for 20, 28, 29, 30 uh for all these things to come to fruition.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think you postpone, I think, I think those five years that they've got it.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because they're the ones that um, you know, the newness of things, um, there's a lot of people there, and uh there's a lot of a lot of things that don't work right initially that have to get worked out.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're just on your schedule and you stay on your schedule, you um you don't you might not get the the penny as shiny as it comes out of the machine, but you get a really durable, useful penny when you go.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think I like that every five years.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: I wish I could save money by not going every year and do the every five years.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: They would see some major changes everywhere every five years.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then in addition to that, your kids, obviously, there's five years worth of changes in them as well, right?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Their likes are not the same, they're different sizes, their their interests have changed, right?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's something also to take into mind.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so I'm gonna bring it, uh close it on on home here to our final segment.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: The worst Disney planning decision as a theme to our uh homage toward the name of our show, The Worst Beyond the Magic, bringing it back to our show's identity.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: What's the worst planning decision someone can make right now?
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I we I this is always gonna be mine.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: Believing the internet.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you can believe us because we're certified interneters, um, but believing everybody else on the internet and all of the things, just do a little tiny bit of research or call up your favorite travel agent.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully that's Jamie and I.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then we can we can help square you away because we go at least once a year.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think the other half of this, I think, is waiting indefinitely.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: People have FOMO real bad.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: And they um because of that, uh they have the obviously the fear of missing out.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they are like, well, if I go now, then I'm not gonna be able to afford to go in a couple years, or they I'm gonna wait till this opens, right?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're forever gonna wait, especially with Disney.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a forever changing thing.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is again Walt's vision.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's never gonna, it's never gonna end.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's we're forever evolving.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: And and here's a big thing I want to throw out there too.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um set your budget.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, assuming more money is gonna make your vacation better um is not always true.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can throw a lot of money at it.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it doesn't mean that you're gonna have a good time or that your family's gonna have a good time.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta base your vacation around what you guys really like and the and not going bankrupt for the rest of the year.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, it there's that's where this whole four to three months out comes into play, right?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's the that's a conversation that we have to have.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: What is our budget?
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to stay value?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to stay moderate?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to stay deluxe, super bougie like Pete and I?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do we want to do four parks?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to do three parks?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: Want to add um all the things?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: You want to add a six-day park ticket with park hopper?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: I just had somebody do that.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like that there's all kinds of different people out there that want to have all different types of experiences that they want, and Disney's gonna allow you to do it, and that's where uh the planning aspect comes into play.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's so many different options, it's a bit overwhelming.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: We have the answers for you.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: The internet doesn't always have the answers, um, but uh just reach out to us and we'll we'll lend you a hand.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I feel like this is this is more of a hey, come to come to you and I uh kind of kind of thing to the show.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, rather than a detour or not.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely not our handsome looks because we don't have any.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um all right, this is my this is my final question.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Pete, if somebody is listening right now and says, we're thinking about Disney World next year, but everything coming looks amazing.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Should we wait?
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely not.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Jamie and I are gonna uh talk you through, give you some good planning tips, and you're gonna have the best possible vacation you can have right now.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: And if you decide to go back, you'll have the best possible vacation you can have right then.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um Disney's always gonna have something new and something to try to entice you to come again and again.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: So there's no finished version of Walt Disney World.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've said this over and over again in this episode.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Disney will always be building the next big thing.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: If your family is ready, your budget works, and the timing works, then go make the memories now.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh then come back to us when the new stuff opens and we'll get you there again.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: And listen on here and we'll tell you about that new stuff and and how to how to manage it.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Jamie.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: So basically Disney just gave us several reasons to postpone our next trip.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or several reasons to plan another trip.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: Spoken like a true travel agent.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I really don't know what you're talking about there, Pete.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just giving you my ass opinion.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds like four separate trips to me.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to The Worst Beyond the Magic Friends.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for coming back every week.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: We really do appreciate your patience with us uh getting these episodes out on time.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's hard sometimes.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Again, thank you for coming back and listening.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and if you're trying to figure out whether to go now or wait, or some somehow convinces your spouse that Disney World requires an animal research trips, which it obviously does.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's uh professional service, Pete.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time, we're here to give you the real deal.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Mouse droppings included.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: This has been the worst beyond the magic.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: See you later.