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- 0:00Hello, everyone. This is Erica Spicer Mason with
- 0:02Becker's Healthcare. Thank you so much for tuning
- 0:05in to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:07So today, we're going to talk about modernizing
- 0:10employee mental health support and embedding well-being into
- 0:13organizational
- 0:14strategy.
- 0:15And joining me for this conversation, we have
- 0:17with us Kristin Ford, the general manager of
- 0:20the employer division at Carillon Behavioral Health. Kristin,
- 0:24welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much
- 0:25for joining us today.
- 0:27Yes. Thank you for having me. We're so
- 0:29glad to have you with us. And before
- 0:31we get into the conversation,
- 0:33can you give our listeners just a little
- 0:34bit more of a sense of your professional
- 0:36background and also the work that you're doing
- 0:38at Carillon?
- 0:39I'd love to. Just a little bit about
- 0:41my professional background.
- 0:43It's actually in social work and public health.
- 0:45I came into this field with a very
- 0:48person centered perspective.
- 0:50I've always felt that,
- 0:52that really been, related to and focused on
- 0:55the question of how can systems support individuals,
- 0:58families, and communities to thrive. And that lens
- 1:01has shaped all the leadership roles that I've
- 1:03had the opportunity to take on.
- 1:05A big part of my career has always
- 1:07been helping employers to navigate a behavioral health
- 1:10landscape that can often feel fragmented and can
- 1:13feel complex.
- 1:14And I have the opportunity to to serve
- 1:17today as the general manager of the employer
- 1:19division at Carillon.
- 1:20And my focus there has really been on
- 1:22building a scalable and a high value employer
- 1:25portfolio,
- 1:26aligning our EAP and behavioral health solutions and
- 1:29our well-being solutions
- 1:31to what
- 1:32employers really care about and what really challenges
- 1:34them. And that's things around access and quality,
- 1:38engagement, SDOH needs, and population outcomes.
- 1:42Great to learn more about you, Kristen, and
- 1:45I'm excited that you're bringing this lens of
- 1:47wellness in the workplace. You know, I think
- 1:49we talk about behavioral health a lot at
- 1:51Becker's from the lens of providers and patients,
- 1:54But, you know, employees are patients too. So
- 1:57I'm excited to dig in a little bit
- 1:59more on what that looks like.
- 2:01So employee assistance programs, I know they've been
- 2:04around for decades.
- 2:06But the traditional model was largely reactive. It's
- 2:09it's been more of a resource that employees
- 2:11turn to when things have reached a crisis
- 2:14point. So I'd love to hear from you
- 2:16to start us off how you've seen that
- 2:18model really evolve in recent years.
- 2:21Yeah. I think that's a really great question.
- 2:23And employee assistance programs have really transformed from
- 2:26what I would say is a narrow crisis
- 2:29driven
- 2:30phone based type service into more broad based
- 2:33proactive services that are tech enabled and really
- 2:37deliver well-being services across the population.
- 2:40So the e p EAPs of today, just
- 2:42like Caroline's EAP, can be considered a front
- 2:45door to an employer's
- 2:47entire well-being strategy.
- 2:49If you think about,
- 2:51a history and think about,
- 2:53when,
- 2:54EAPs
- 2:55really evolved, they evolved in the mid nineteen
- 2:57hundreds, and they were designed to address alcoholism
- 3:00and job performance.
- 3:02By the early two thousands, they expanded to
- 3:04include mental health,
- 3:06family, legal, financial, and work life support.
- 3:09But most were still call center based and
- 3:12often used a gatekeeping model before someone could
- 3:14reach a clinician.
- 3:16So today's EAP looks nothing like that. It
- 3:19includes
- 3:20chat and text,
- 3:21video and app based support.
- 3:23It includes self guided and digital content, including
- 3:26digital cognitive
- 3:28behavioral therapy modules.
- 3:29It has direct scheduling with counselors.
- 3:32And, increasingly, you will see more AI enabled
- 3:35triage and navigation.
- 3:36So the modern EAP functions is what I
- 3:39would call a multidimensional
- 3:40well-being hub, not just a single issue platform.
- 3:44So interesting.
- 3:46Multidimensional
- 3:47is a good word to describe this approach.
- 3:50What do you think within that shift that
- 3:52you're seeing, you know, going from
- 3:55having simply, you know, maybe call based support
- 3:57for mental health and how it's evolved into
- 3:59this multidimensional,
- 4:01model. What has been the biggest shift within
- 4:03that model that you've seen employers embrace?
- 4:07Yeah. What's changed most is that employers
- 4:10no longer see behavioral health as a side
- 4:12benefit.
- 4:13They really see it as part of a
- 4:15core workforce infrastructure,
- 4:17something that directly
- 4:18affects the performance and the retention and the
- 4:20safety and culture of their workforce.
- 4:23So that shift has really raised expectations.
- 4:26Employers now want proactive, not reactive support.
- 4:30They want a single integrated experience instead of
- 4:33a patchwork of point solutions.
- 4:35They want insights and outcomes, not just utilization
- 4:38reports.
- 4:39They also are very focused on engagement into
- 4:41the services because they know that well-being services
- 4:44can really help their workforce to do better.
- 4:46So they wanna see people using those services,
- 4:49and they wanna know about AI and and
- 4:51how it can really help with navigation and
- 4:54support the well-being of their employees.
- 4:56In terms of,
- 4:58the question about what's driving this, I would
- 5:00say first,
- 5:02the biggest driver is workforce stress and burnout.
- 5:04That has really reached a breaking point, and
- 5:06I would also say that employers are continuing
- 5:09to see high acuity behavioral health needs in
- 5:11their population.
- 5:12And those behavioral health issues
- 5:15now show up as business problems that impact
- 5:18an an organization's performance.
- 5:20And then I would also think about
- 5:23the importance of the impact on the national
- 5:26clinical workforce shortages,
- 5:28particularly in psychiatry as well as youth and
- 5:31adolescents care. That has really, forced employers to
- 5:35rethink what access looks like more broadly.
- 5:38So I think all all of that is
- 5:40just to say that there's a very different
- 5:42set of expectations for EAPs and the broader
- 5:44behavioral health ecosystem
- 5:47now in today's environment than there once was.
- 5:50Mhmm. Such a helpful overview. It's really interesting
- 5:53to see how,
- 5:54all of those forces have converged, you know,
- 5:56that,
- 5:57change in mindset on supporting the workforce, especially
- 6:00with stress and burnout.
- 6:02Meanwhile, technology is also coming into play. So
- 6:04a lot of these shifts that you're speaking
- 6:06to, Kristen, makes sense.
- 6:07And in your your previous response, you had
- 6:09also touched on I think you had said,
- 6:11you know, how organizations want to see their
- 6:14employees using these services.
- 6:16Organizations
- 6:17are rightfully so, you know, investing
- 6:19significantly in wellness benefits, whether that's stipends, mental
- 6:22health days, the digital tools that you've spoken
- 6:24to.
- 6:26So despite that, there still can be a
- 6:28struggle with engagement. So from your advantage point,
- 6:31what separates organizations that are seeing real results
- 6:34from those where well-being remains more of a
- 6:37benefits kind of footnote?
- 6:39Yeah. I would agree that many organizations still
- 6:41struggle with engagement. That is an ongoing conversation
- 6:45with customers
- 6:46related to how do we engage in, in
- 6:48these services. And,
- 6:50I think that the organizations
- 6:52where we see results
- 6:54that do that really well
- 6:56focus on three things really well. They build
- 6:58a culture of well-being from the top down.
- 7:01And what that means is that they don't
- 7:03treat well-being as an HR initiative.
- 7:05They treat it as a leadership behavior
- 7:07and a business priority.
- 7:09So high performing organizations
- 7:11often make well-being visible in leadership behavior. So
- 7:14what that means is that leaders consistently model
- 7:17healthy work habits and behaviors.
- 7:20They openly use well-being resources
- 7:22so employees
- 7:23can see that support is both valued and
- 7:26expected.
- 7:27They also embed
- 7:28well-being into how work gets done. So focus
- 7:31on organizational design
- 7:33and reducing the friction and burnout that naturally
- 7:36occurs in organizations
- 7:38by making well-being a natural part of daily
- 7:40operations.
- 7:41And then they hold their leaders accountable for
- 7:44team culture and measuring and rewarding leaders based
- 7:46on how effectively they create,
- 7:49safe and supportive and high engagement environments.
- 7:52So I would I would put all of
- 7:54that under the bucket of building a culture
- 7:56of well-being.
- 7:57The second area, I think, that is important
- 8:00for organizations that do this well is that
- 8:02they treat managers as the activation point.
- 8:05So managers control roughly 70% of engagement in
- 8:09a workforce
- 8:10and are the first line for well-being concerns.
- 8:13Managers are probably the number one predictor of
- 8:16whether employees use well-being resources
- 8:19and the number one predictor of employee retention.
- 8:21So adding trainings
- 8:23for managers and support for managers can really
- 8:26activate
- 8:27employees into their well-being.
- 8:29And I think the third area,
- 8:31that's really important is that they simplify the
- 8:34ecosystem.
- 8:35There's one front door, one message specific to
- 8:38their population. There's clear navigation.
- 8:41And when the employee knows where to go,
- 8:43they're more likely to engage early and often.
- 8:46So I I see those things as best
- 8:48practices
- 8:49for employers
- 8:51who are doing well on engagement.
- 8:53Appreciate how clearly you outlined those best practices,
- 8:56Kristen.
- 8:57And I know you mentioned the imperative of
- 8:59managers,
- 9:01being all in on this work, essentially. And
- 9:04I'm curious what that should look like at
- 9:06the senior leadership level as well. You know,
- 9:09how do you help employer partners build that
- 9:12case internally so that senior and executive leadership
- 9:15are on board as well?
- 9:16And we'd love to know any metrics or
- 9:18evidence trends that tend to resonate most with
- 9:20executives who are weighing whether they'll move forward
- 9:23with that investment.
- 9:25Yeah. I think the organizations that succeed,
- 9:28and get, senior leadership attention,
- 9:31really elevate well-being to a business lane and
- 9:34not a benefits lane. So when I work
- 9:36with employer partners, I help them reframe the
- 9:38conversation
- 9:39around metrics executives already track. So that's things
- 9:43like,
- 9:44turnover and retention,
- 9:45productivity impacts for absenteeism and presenteeism,
- 9:49looking at access to care, like speed to
- 9:52care and, network adequacy metrics,
- 9:56and also a clear ROI narrative is is
- 9:58becoming more increasingly important. So often when leaders
- 10:02see well-being as a lever for performance,
- 10:05they the conversation can change, and the financial
- 10:08outcome can change, and the business performance can
- 10:11change.
- 10:12So interesting to hear how you help them,
- 10:15reframe
- 10:16the
- 10:17the value in these services,
- 10:19through those specific
- 10:21metrics. Really, really insightful, Kristen.
- 10:23And I wanna make sure that we touch
- 10:25on the employee perspective as well.
- 10:28What strategies have you seen work best to
- 10:30normalize engagement with EAP programs and really encourage
- 10:33folks to access support before
- 10:35a mental health situation or otherwise might become
- 10:38worse or even a crisis.
- 10:40Yeah. I think this is the area where
- 10:42the difference between tactics
- 10:44and culture really matters. And so organizations
- 10:47that normalize engagement treat it as a behavioral
- 10:50change challenge,
- 10:52not just a communication challenge,
- 10:54do better. And they,
- 10:56work to embed support in in leadership behavior.
- 11:00They equip their managers to recognize and respond
- 11:03early. They integrate well-being into work design.
- 11:07They look at how to make support easy
- 11:09and visible and stigma free, and then they
- 11:12really focus on prevention. They focus on early
- 11:15intervention
- 11:16as a cultural norm of their business.
- 11:18So when employees see leaders and managers using
- 11:22and talking about these resources,
- 11:24engagement just becomes normalized.
- 11:26It increases,
- 11:27and, it
- 11:29turns it into
- 11:30a standard of care and and,
- 11:33turns away from crisis.
- 11:35Yeah. Well, Kristen, you've given so many great
- 11:38insights for our listeners today on what EAP
- 11:41benefits can really look like when they're optimized
- 11:44from the leadership perspective,
- 11:46from employees' perspectives.
- 11:48Can you offer maybe one last piece of
- 11:50advice for a leader that's ready to take
- 11:52a more strategic approach to workforce well-being? What's
- 11:55the best place to start if they haven't
- 11:56yet?
- 11:57Yeah. I think that's a great question, and
- 11:59I think the best place to start isn't
- 12:01with a new program.
- 12:02It's really with clarity on your existing program.
- 12:05So starting by understanding the current state of
- 12:07your workforce and the root causes of stress
- 12:10and burnout and disengagement.
- 12:13Looking at the leading indicators like absenteeism,
- 12:17turnover,
- 12:18manager escalation themes, and quality issues can really
- 12:21give some critical insights and allow you to
- 12:24design a strategic approach to well-being.
- 12:26I always like to say that you can't
- 12:28manage what you can't measure, so let the
- 12:30data guide you. And then once the data
- 12:33guides you, focus on managers first. They are
- 12:36the activation point. Simplify the ecosystem. Make it
- 12:39easy to know where to go. Align well-being
- 12:42with with how work actually gets done, and
- 12:45then model the behavior what you want the
- 12:47organization to adopt. And with that, I think
- 12:49you'll find your employees
- 12:51will be thriving both professionally and personally, and
- 12:54they will be able to live happier, healthier
- 12:56lives, which helps an organization
- 12:58be its most successful.
- 13:01Such great advice, Kristen. I wanna thank you
- 13:04again for joining Becker's today for this conversation.
- 13:07It's been a pleasure learning more about you
- 13:09and your work at Carillon,
- 13:11and all of the things that you've advised
- 13:12for our audience. I think it's a lot
- 13:14to consider and appreciate the practical next step
- 13:17forward that you just shared. So wanna thank
- 13:19you again for for joining.
- 13:21Thank you. And, of course, we'd also like
- 13:23to thank our podcast sponsor today, Carillon Behavioral
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