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LBL Werewolf Family, Shapeshifters & TN Ancient Pygmy Graves with Bruce Brown · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Crypti Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in to on the Hunt tonight where we are
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  Speaker 1: going on the hunt for Appalachian were wolves tonight, mainly
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  Speaker 1: Appalachian were wolf families tonight, and we're also going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about it shape Shifter report that I've just taken,
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  Speaker 1: and much more. Of course, I do want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about ancient pigmy graves up in Tennessee. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be making a lot of connection of dots tonight with
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  Speaker 1: my guests. Tonight. We have Bruce Brown here in the
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  Speaker 1: studio with us tonight. You guys know Bruce. He has
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  Speaker 1: been on the show a couple of times, more than
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  Speaker 1: a couple actually, and he is a wonderful wealth of
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  Speaker 1: knowledge and has a lot of experience with cryptids, and
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  Speaker 1: he is from Tennessee. We're gonna be showing you guys
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  Speaker 1: some maps tonight, getting into some real historical werewolf families
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  Speaker 1: out of Kentucky tonight. And it's quite controversial. And I
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  Speaker 1: was actually not to ever talk about this a long
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  Speaker 1: time ago, and uh and for whatever reason, I am
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  Speaker 1: just crazy enough to start talking about it tonight. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so oh man, don't shoot the messenger. Okay, whoever gets
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  Speaker 1: upset about this, it's all right. People need to know.
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  Speaker 1: We're full disclosure over here on the crypt Huntress channel.
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  Speaker 1: And uh and I have some wearable friends, okay. So
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  Speaker 1: as long as I've got those wearable friends on my side,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. All right, We're good. So so yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: y'all buckle up, buttercups. This is gonna be one wild
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  Speaker 1: ride tonight. I can guarantee you that. And it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be loads of fun. And uh and we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into some topics we've not discussed here on the channel before. Okay. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: find me. Okay, y'all. Well, let's get to our show tonight,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. Tonight we are on the Hunt with Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 1: We are discussing Appalachian werewolves and the historical werewolf families
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  Speaker 1: of Kentucky. We'll discuss recent ports that I to I
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  Speaker 1: just took one. I can't go full disclosure on that
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  Speaker 1: one yet. We're gonna talk about it on a shape
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  Speaker 1: shifter and some dogmen where I live. And we're going
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  Speaker 1: to take a deep dive into the enigmatic ancient North
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  Speaker 1: Cumberland pigmy graveyards in Tennessee. It's not just one, there's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Bruce Brown is a former law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement officer from Tennessee who's had multiple intense dog man encounters.
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  Speaker 1: He has served as a patrolman, deputy sheriff, sergeant, Sergeant
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  Speaker 1: of patrols, the Tech Detective in chief of Narcotics. His
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  Speaker 1: professional background exposed him to calls on bigfoot and dog
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  Speaker 1: man encounters, and he knows the protocols for how these
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  Speaker 1: cases were handled and potentially covered up and how the
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  Speaker 1: military gets involved. Bruce first encountered dog man little hunting
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  Speaker 1: observing from a tree stand. A couple of years later,
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  Speaker 1: he had an intense encounter while Jensen hunting and got
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  Speaker 1: a very detailed look at what he believes was a
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  Speaker 1: dog man or a werewolf that eventually followed him home.
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  Speaker 1: After multiple other encounters with the creatures, he came face
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  Speaker 1: to face with a small injured dog man Pump pump
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  Speaker 1: piget it up, giving it a thorough examination. You guys
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  Speaker 1: can find him over on the Crypti Wrangular podcast. He
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  Speaker 1: is a co host our good Buddy I see Larry
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  Speaker 1: in the chat right now and Daniel Crypti Hunter or
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  Speaker 1: the Cryptied Hunters A's me Crypti Wrangular Podcast, and also
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  Speaker 1: he is over on Bigfoot Believers and other Creatures on Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I wore my prison jail orange for him tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm a huntress, y'all? Is it? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Am I a hunter? Or did I come out of
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  Speaker 1: prison tonight? I don't know? In my orange? Please help me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 2: How are y'all doing?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, Bruce, I am doing excellent. I was joking around,
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, it look like I came out of
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  Speaker 1: prison to day, didn't This is my jail out.
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  Speaker 2: I could.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was going for the hunt huntress. Look,
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  Speaker 1: but then I realized, Man, I was reading your I
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  Speaker 1: was reading your bio, and I was like, man, I
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  Speaker 1: look like I just came out of jail. Actually, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So but either either way, either way, we're here to
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  Speaker 1: have some fun tonight. Okay, So thank you for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, glad to be here, and thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we always have fun, don't we. Yep, we do,
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  Speaker 1: we do well. Uh, well, brew man, you've been busy.
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  Speaker 1: I've been seeing you all over the place, all over
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  Speaker 1: the it was some fantastic interviews and uh super super
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  Speaker 1: proud of you. Uh the word Yeah, super.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 1: Is you probably needed the night off, didn't you. Dang, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I might as well throw another show on tonight. Oh man, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tonight I really wanted to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: about I want to talk to you about a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. But uh, but you know, one of the
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  Speaker 1: last times you came on the show, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: talked briefly about some werewolf families, a werewolf family out
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  Speaker 1: of the Land between the Lakes and Kentucky, and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get into that a little bit tonight with
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  Speaker 1: you and uh and pick your brain a little bit
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  Speaker 1: because I've been having a lot of trouble finding information
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  Speaker 1: on that. But I know it's true, Okay. So I've
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  Speaker 1: been told about that from multiple people. I was actually
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  Speaker 1: advised not to ever talk about it publicly. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: well I was told not to talk about the vampires actually, okay,
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  Speaker 1: from up there. But I don't know. They could be related, Bruce.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think probably one of the same. You
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  Speaker 2: think good possibility?
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  Speaker 1: Hmm, Well okay, Well, well, we're got the land between
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  Speaker 1: the Lakes up there, and that's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: research spots. I got to meet you up that way
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and it's one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite research spots. It's actually known for the dog man
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  Speaker 1: encounters out there, known for attacks, deathbed confessions from Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: and Kentucky fishing game saying that they watched people get
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  Speaker 1: ripped to shreds by dog men out there and stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 1: my theory is that they're not all dog men. My
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  Speaker 1: theory is that they're probably wear wolves. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever put some thought into all that? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I have. There's sometimes that I've seen stuff
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  Speaker 2: there that you didn't match a dog man that left
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  Speaker 2: me wondering if I was dealing with a werewolf. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I had what I called laser eyes. It was completely
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  Speaker 2: different than most of the dog man I dealt with. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's all. You never know what you're dealing with, that's
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: No, you don't, you don't. Well, here's my take on it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of dark energy out there, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dark energy, a lot of I'm going to say rituals,
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  Speaker 1: backwards cults, stuff like that. I believe that goes on
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  Speaker 1: there a good bit and to me that would signal
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  Speaker 1: that it might be more conjuring of were wolves and
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  Speaker 1: things like that. Now, I think there's even a government
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  Speaker 1: element to some of them. I dare I say, uh,
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  Speaker 1: some kind of secret maybe like to say, secret government
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  Speaker 1: military stuff going on up there, But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Could just be dog men, of course,
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  Speaker 1: could be, but I think it's where wolves.
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  Speaker 2: You've got several reports out of the l b L,
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  Speaker 2: which is a military base is there that they talk
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  Speaker 2: about dog Man being super soldiers there and that's just
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  Speaker 2: not the locals talking about a former military that served there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so the last one of the last times
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  Speaker 1: I was there, we were riding around late at night
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  Speaker 1: and we had gone to the one of the Witch's
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  Speaker 1: cemeteries out there. My friend calls it a witch Witch
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  Speaker 1: cemetery and uh, and we were something not only does
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  Speaker 1: something get thrown in our truck while we were driving
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  Speaker 1: up there in the middle of the night, uh, we
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  Speaker 1: started finding a bunch of these contents of water and
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  Speaker 1: like it looked like kind of something like a gatorade
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  Speaker 1: or powery, some kind of energy mix on top of them,
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  Speaker 1: some sort of let's just say there was some sort
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  Speaker 1: of military exercises that were being done out there, because
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  Speaker 1: they had placed these big water containers along the roads
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  Speaker 1: and stuff and some of the areas and they were hidden.
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  Speaker 1: They were kind of hidden. But we noticed that. We
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  Speaker 1: got a good eye for this stuff, Bruce, and we
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  Speaker 1: were noticing that. And so actually I think one of
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  Speaker 1: the guy's got on the truck just to go look,
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  Speaker 1: walk up and see what it was, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: but there there is but you know, in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these national parks and stuff. There's in state parks too.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of military exercises going on out there
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  Speaker 1: that general public is probably not going to ever be
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  Speaker 1: aware of, I think, right right.
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  Speaker 2: And and a lot of people are under the assumption
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  Speaker 2: most of the time that the when they see the
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  Speaker 2: military in these parks around these military bases, and they've
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  Speaker 2: had residents have our witness accounts of dog men and
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  Speaker 2: big pot that most of the people think it's a
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  Speaker 2: kill team out to take them, but in reality, ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine percent of them are being safeguarded by the military.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want them dead, their assets exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That costs a lot of money. I just did a
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  Speaker 1: show on Thursday. We're talking about super human super soldiers,
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  Speaker 1: and we were actually getting into that movie it's called
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  Speaker 1: Soldier by with Kurt Wrestling it from the nineteen nineties
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, and we're kind of looking into the
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  Speaker 1: truth behind the soft disclosure in that movie. And I
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  Speaker 1: tell you what, according to that movie, which they do
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  Speaker 1: put the disclosure in our movies. Okay, they're showing that
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  Speaker 1: there were children that were being raised from babies all
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  Speaker 1: the way into adulthood to be the Ultimate Soldiers even
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  Speaker 1: getting shipped off planet and stuff. And if they're doing
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  Speaker 1: that to humans, and I think there's obviously a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us, a lot of us do believe they're doing
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  Speaker 1: it with these dog men and these werewolves and stuff. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: whistle blowers have come out and said that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they work for these dog man breeding programs and were
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  Speaker 1: wolf's breeding programs, bigfoot breeding programs.
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  Speaker 2: Well we just we just recently had I won't say
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  Speaker 2: his name, but these Washington d C. Politician come out
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't Birchant from Tennessee. It was another man
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  Speaker 2: that's uh directly over some of the budget to do
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  Speaker 2: with that that that talked about. Uh, the white aliens
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  Speaker 2: were mostly in charge of the dog man experiments right now.
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  Speaker 1: You said a congress person.
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  Speaker 2: Said that it's a little bit higher than the congress person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well danged they want to be interviewed on
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  Speaker 1: the Crypti Hunter's channel.
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  Speaker 2: You think you know that that come out sort of secret,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, they did just close that the white aliens,
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  Speaker 2: the tall ones, were involved in that program.
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  Speaker 1: Tall whites, the tall whites, we talked about them pretty
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  Speaker 1: often when it comes down to that, you know, Timberschet is.
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  Speaker 1: Actually I applaud that, man, I do. I might actually
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  Speaker 1: ask him to come on my show one day. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He he's out of Tennessee. I think it's East Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: Am I right? Is it East Tennessee timber Chet?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mister birch At. Yeah, yeah, he was here
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  Speaker 2: in Pumpman County, not just a few days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Well he's really done a lot for you know,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: talking about the ets and the civilizations of aquatic etis
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  Speaker 1: under the ocean, and it's shocking how much he's talked about. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it'd be interesting. I don't want to put
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  Speaker 1: on the spot, but you know, some of my research
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  Speaker 1: areas I actually do research out of East Tennessee. I
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  Speaker 1: have before, and and it'd be cool to get him
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  Speaker 1: on the show to talk about my experience even with
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  Speaker 1: the bigfoots out there and the other stuff, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: talk to him about that.
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  Speaker 2: See if he don't be open to it, that's a
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  Speaker 2: good possibility. It selection here.
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  Speaker 1: The big book community is growing too, Bruce, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the people would like to hear what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say about Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And I can always help him come up with some
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  Speaker 1: legislation to protect the bigfoots. We need to. I'm good
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  Speaker 1: at that. That's what he used to do for a living. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, Yeah, it's really interesting how we're I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we're kind of taking leaps and bounds with the
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  Speaker 1: disclosure on all this right now. But there's still some
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  Speaker 1: things that probably won't come out to the public for
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  Speaker 1: a while, and that includes the use of dog men
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  Speaker 1: and wear wolves with our government, I think. But nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: it'll come out one day, Bruce, It'll come out one day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, well let's get into this,
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  Speaker 1: let's get out of the family. I always like to
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  Speaker 1: get to the core of stuff, and then I like
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  Speaker 1: to connect the dots. And being such a concentrated area
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  Speaker 1: of dog man attacks and dog man sightings in the
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  Speaker 1: trauma of that land where all the people were run
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  Speaker 1: out of that area. They were all kicked off the
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: land a long time ago. But before they were kicked
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  Speaker 1: off that land, there's some deep seated families down there,
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  Speaker 1: some generational families there, and one of them happened to
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  Speaker 1: be were wolves. They say, what can you tell us
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  Speaker 1: about that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there was a family out of England that moved
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  Speaker 2: into the LBL in the late seventeen hundreds. There still
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  Speaker 2: may be ancestors left there today. And they come into town,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and the LBL was a big community, it
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  Speaker 2: was a city, and there one time there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people lived there, and the graveyards proved that were
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  Speaker 2: the two three four hundred graveyards there. And this family
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  Speaker 2: had come in. The man would be the only one
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  Speaker 2: come in and he had wife in a house full
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  Speaker 2: of kids, I think it was eleven kids, and if
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  Speaker 2: somebody's eyes wasn't right, so they nicknamed him wolf because
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  Speaker 2: his eyes looked like well, of course they did say
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  Speaker 2: that to his face, because he'd just come in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of town a couple of towns a year. Nobody has
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  Speaker 2: seen him. But people that lived close to their farms
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  Speaker 2: would hear house and stuff at night that nobody else
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  Speaker 2: was hearing. And then people in the community eventually assumed
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  Speaker 2: as they was were whoops. They had a lighter skin
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  Speaker 2: color than most and they had a wolf eyes, and
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  Speaker 2: so they nicknamed Wolf. And then I think the next
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  Speaker 2: generation of them, the kids come up and actually one
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  Speaker 2: or two of them had changed their last names to wolf.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a little suspicious when you go look it
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  Speaker 2: up now. I mean six months ago, you could find
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff if you looked it up their family.
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  Speaker 2: You can't find it now. Since people started talking about
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  Speaker 2: it on social media, it's all disappeared. And the locals
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: there around LBL get really upset if you talk about
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  Speaker 2: it much. A lot of them don't have a problem
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  Speaker 2: with it, but there is a few that does. So
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why lot of people don't
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  Speaker 2: talk about that Pacific family. They still believe that there's
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  Speaker 2: people believe that those that family are actual werewolves and
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  Speaker 2: still run in that area.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are the odds? What are the odds?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I stand by my statement. I do believe
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the encounters people have out there are
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  Speaker 1: probably wear wolves. I don't know. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: say all of them, okay, but I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them are. What are the odds of that being
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  Speaker 1: from that generation of the wolf family out there, well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a pretty good chance because if you
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  Speaker 2: had people from the late seventeen hundreds through the eighteen
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  Speaker 2: hundreds into the early nineteen hundreds talk about that family
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  Speaker 2: and it was carried on for generation to generation and
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  Speaker 2: there is something to it. We don't know how much,
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  Speaker 2: but there's got to be something to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think so. And what are the odds that maybe,
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  Speaker 1: like our government I hate to say government, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's all controversial bringing that up, but what are the
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  Speaker 1: odds of them before they kicked everybody out of that area?
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  Speaker 1: Where do I talk about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you have to look at the fact Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: Valley Authority went in there and took everybody's land, homes, businesses.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's the complete towns and there are big communities,
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  Speaker 2: cities I would call it. And then they build a
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  Speaker 2: military base there. That's where you got to stop and think,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: why did they build a military base there? It could
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have been built anywhere else but there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it has something to do with the land,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: okay exactly. That is definitely coming up more and more
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: with all these shows that we do and all the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: research that I'm doing. It's definitely everything is connected to
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  Speaker 1: the land. It all is so that there's there's something
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  Speaker 1: that the ancients knew. Okay, And I'll be if we don't.
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  Speaker 1: If people out there don't believe our government is not
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  Speaker 1: fully aware of this stuff. People that can let's call
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: them the controllers, people in charge, people that have imminent domain.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They know where these places of power are and they
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: know where the energy is higher. And maybe I mean,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: dare I say portals and all that kind of stuff.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And uh. And so we're I'm not saying we're just
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: now catching up with all this, Okay, I am, I am,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but but yeah, it's to this day, it's just such
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a high concentration of high strangeness right there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's when you get into areas like that
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and the way that people were taking off of their lands.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: We talk about generations work with that land. And when
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you go back in those days, I mean, that's all
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you had is what you had and could make off
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: of your land. A lot of them were put out
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: there with pennies on the dollar, and a lot of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: them left with nothing because they held out so they
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: were were forcibly removed so they didn't get anything. So
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: it's then you got the Native Americans there. There's a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: lot of things that could have been you know, I'll
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: give you an example. I have a small farm. If
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the government come in and took that farm, I'd be like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: whatever they do on that farm. I curse at h
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: E L L with them. You know, I'd be pissed,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you know, just take it away from me that quick.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You know. Some of them just had days, some of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: them had hours notice, you know, So we would all
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: be infuriated if our land and homes got took took
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: away from us instantly by eminent domain or whatever you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: want to call it. Nowadays, I call it thieven. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that's just the way it is.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. It is, Stephen, and uh, I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: can just imagine myself. Look if I if I have
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: lived past lives, I'm sure I have. I bet you anything,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I've had to curse some something before I died. I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: just wondering what did I curse? Why am I back
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: here in this lifetime? When am I here to make
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it right? I don't know what did I do? All right?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: What did what did people do to me? I probably
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had to curse stuff and I don't come back and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: fix it, okay, but uh but who knows. I'm kidding, y'all.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh but yeah, I mean absolutely,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know this is this is kind of similar, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: kind of not. Because I remember back when we were
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was nine months pregnant house shopping,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: okay with I was married a long time ago, okay,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and me and my husband at the time were house
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: shopping and I remember going to a lot of houses
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to look at and there would be writing on these
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: houses on the walls and stuff on the inside where
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: children were. It was really sad because you knew these
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: houses that had been like foreclosed on, and the children,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the families who lived there were writing why didn't you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: take my house from me? Like on the walls and stuff, right,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and all those houses. It just the the energy there
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: was so heartbreaking to me. And here I am nine
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: muchs pregnant with my son, and that I was like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not We're not buying these houses. We're not. We're
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into those houses. Uh. Where the true
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that you could just steal the trauma of it when
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you walk in and stuff. And I know, and I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: know that's not the same, but it's very similar, you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in a in a kind of a way.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: No. I mean, you had on these farms, you had
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: family plots, family cemeteries, generations, and then they would come
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in and you know, it was all taken away from
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the family just to be covered up with water or
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: turned into a military base. And then when they realized
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't need that much land, and they just turned
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: it into a park. So what makes you wonder?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does. It does make you wonder, Okay,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it does. And actually, as a matter of fact, we're
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: gonna get into it just a little bit. We're gonna
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: talk about some some interesting graves of the Pygmy people.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I know, I know that I was wondering, is this
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: even politically correct? You know, we would about being politically correct,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: but Pygmy is actually a term, y'all for little people.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's like a civilization. And some people say it was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: just children in these graves, but I don't believe that. Okay,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But but that's up and that's up now too far
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: from where we're talking about, just sounds of the land between.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: The lakes to the right. Mm hm, the eighteen miles
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: from me where I'm.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Sitting right now hand us, right there by by Whitleyville.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: But I did that investigation a while back. Yeah, there
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it's wild talk about things being on the land. Okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And uh, and Larry Larry has a great comment here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Larry. Says, me and some friends were in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a private chat talking about dog men and how they
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: all over the US, and he mentioned there had been
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a breeding population, and somebody shut the chat down. Dang,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not shocked for you.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: No, they've been breeding for years now. Yeah, I mean
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I found a dog man puppy.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. You're one of the few people I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: know that's found a dog man puppy. Actually, you know
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: what I heard. I heard I was listening to a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: podcast other day. There was another like a park ranger
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that had claimed but found a dog man puppy. He
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: called it a werewolf pup. So it's it's not that uncommon.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people get excited when they
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: find a stray puppy on the side of the road
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and they make a video and put it on TikTok
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I would be excited if I found a dog man puppy.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I would make a video and put it on TikTok okay,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: just like I had found a little puffy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But after after you deal with these scripted so long,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you no longer want to take their pictures or videos
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: or anything. You're trying to protect them.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that protecting them is best for sure,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and that that's how it is with me, and you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: definitely a big foot and stuff. I mean, we don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: take our friends out to the woods. I take my
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: phone out there, but it's on airplane mode, okay all
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the time I'm out there. Yeah, we don't. We don't.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Most of my teams that I'm on, like
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: weird don't. We don't put make any of the stuff
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we do public like that, right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So but anyways, okay, so getting back to the werewolves
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of the lbl uh when I when I was saying that, like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I was advised not to talk about the vamp there.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You know, vampires out there. They have something they called
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the Vampire Motel I think, or there's Hotel California and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there's also the Vampire Motel. There have been and that
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: is actually traced back to real life vampire culture, if
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Are you familiar with that?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I've heard the story, but the story I heard was
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: it was around the forties or fifties. We're in there,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: so I'm not familiar with any recent ones.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, well, apparently there's more than just that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: kind of occult activity going on. Out there. And the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: reason I was advised not to talk about it is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: because of the good old boy network and stuff and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: uh and and and when I say it's like deep,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: deep rooted and stuff like, that's what I've been told.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm not going to get into it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: because I really don't know. I didn't ask questions about it,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: but uh, but it's just part of something we got
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of be careful of talking about. I guess
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But but I never really had made
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the connection between the vampires and the Warrelds. Maybe maybe
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: being from that same family they were talking about.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I believe. I believe that that's where
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: that comes from. Yes, Okay, Now there is one man
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: that's uh on social media I cannot think of his name,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that uh just highly upset when people talk about it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a vampire and the l b L. He's even made
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: come on social media and been on the newspaper about it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So why why is she so upsetive?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? That's my question, you know, because I think
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the newspaper reporter and one of the podcasters that he
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: talked to were like, uh, you know a lot of people.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: They like this, they like to hear this. And he
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was like, now we don't. We don't want to discuss it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It's forbidden mh. And so he wouldn't even give a
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: good explanation why it shouldn't be talked about, right right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So that makes you tend to believe that that's that's true. MH.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You know why why would you want to hide something
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is. It is the age of disclosure
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: at this point. But then again, I love my life, okay,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and I saw I saw a video of this lady
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to dad, I think she was in I think, honestly,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think it was down in Africa, Okay, it was
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: in another country, and uh, and that she was showing
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: how her her lip had been bitten by a vampire.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And it was wold because I I had actually talked
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: about this on the show before where my friend of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: mine I believed she had been attacked by a vampire.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: She said, well, but I wasn't bit on the neck,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I was bent on my lip and uh. And I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: had never seen anyone else get bit on their lip.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And then I saw that video today and I was like, man,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that was like a real vampire had bitten her lip,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: just like my friend. And uh, and so I'm seeing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: vampires are very real. Okay, whether you want to believe
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it or not, vampires a real. Everything's real, I think, Bruce.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope I never see one, but I believe
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it because of it's been passed down from general operations
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: by the old people. And they didn't call it vampire
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: when they talked about it publicly. They called it the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: kissing bugs, the kissing bug. The kissing bug. Yeah, it
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: would be two holes through the bottom of the lip,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and they called it the kissing bug. So everybody, everybody
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in the community knew about it. Then you know, well
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that was that's been bit by a vampire. But they
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say vampire. They'd say kissing bug.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So it is on the lip, It is on the lip.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I'll be all right. Well, for a lot of people,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that may be the first time people listening to this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: have ever heard that before. Ye, because we're all the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in the in the movies, we see they're on the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: they get bit on the neck.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Well that's the most romantic place to do it, to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: turn a woman on by her neck.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Them sexy vampires. Yeah, yeah, it's not nearly a sexy
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: getting your lip bit off.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: No, that would hurt, that's right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well you learn something new every time you watch
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the Cryptid Hunter's channel, y'all. Okay, And so all right,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: well there's well we talked about a lot of active
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: cover ups when it comes to the dogmen and where
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: well stuff and now you know vampires too. There is
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a concerted effort to keep these things quiet, not talk
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: about them especially. And I don't know if LBL is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: like a small it is kind of small town's out
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in the country, okay, And if all of these attacks
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: have been happening over the course of these decades, at
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: least the nineteen eighties, there's obviously a concerted effort to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: cover it up because it hadn't gotten out other than
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: by word of mouth, right by locals.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's always by locals. And then you're older
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: people as they got older and needed to tell somebody
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that the story started coming out.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Wow, okay, by the older folks. All right, and uh,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you know the North American Dogman Project did that. He
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: did that documentary. We kind of joke around about it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if war criminals in a chat today,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: but Barton Barton's and it you know, you met we
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: met Barton, you met Barton the at the distillery and uh,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: when they made that video, I think they called him
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Burton Nutley or something. We still laugh about that he's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: in that documentary though they just call him the wrong name. Okay,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But but that's a really that's a that's a pretty
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: good documentary when it comes to the l B L
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and uh and and having eyewitnessed accounts from people who
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: there's a woman that had worked at the gas station
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: up there and claimed that she'd seen the two laws.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: You know, police officers I think came in and when
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I was sick and throwing up, and they were talking
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: about they just worked that case the family up there
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that had been mauled to.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Death, right, and then plus the picture that he drew. Uh,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I've seen well pretty much the exact same thing in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Whitleyville when we discussed this on your show.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did, that's right. Kind of looked like a batsquatch, rightatch.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I thought I was tracking a dog man and then
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it got wings real quick and flew over me, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I knew then wasn't a dog man.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Do you think maybe that could have been even like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about some sheep shifters tonight too.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I just took a report out of where I live
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: of a bona fide sheep shifter, okay, And and I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: kind of wondered about that too, Like, after We've done
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of shows together and I've had time to
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: marinate on that, I'm wondering if that that could have
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: been some kind of a sheep shifter that you saw
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Very well could be. You know, you're you're older people
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: talking about animals shape shifting, a deer changing into a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: squirrel or bias versa or whatever. You know, you hear
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that quite a bit. When you get into the deep
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Mountain Appalaisha. You hear these stories and passed down stories,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and some of it's Indian legend. There's caves that's with
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the stories, uh written on the walls in lithograph. You
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: know you can you can see them?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we okay, So I'll just bring this up briefly, okay,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: because because I did, I did get contacted. I'm out
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of anonymity. Is that he's saying, you don't want to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk about this too much, right, But
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I was contacted by a very nice person. Uh out
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of let's just say northwest Georgia and uh and it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: in an area where we have had a lot of
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: werewolf attack, like a werewolf attack, and a lot of
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: dog man encounters and werewolf encounters. Uh. The the Northwest
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Georgia corridor up there, like Floyd County, Rome, even Dalton's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: kind of up there. There's been some dog man sightings
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: up there, Paulding County with the Paulden werewolves and uh
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and I took a report and I'm gonna go investigate.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I haven't gone to investigate it yet. Someone won't keep
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: quiet about it mostly. But but in addition to like
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: dog men on this farm, uh, there's there was a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a case of almost like a shape shifter out there
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: with the person actually saw a deer, but then when
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: they looked over at the deer, it turned into like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a dog. And then it turned into a person. Okay,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't a normal person. It was a little person.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: A tansi turned into a tonsi.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I told you what is the tansi.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: A tonsi is a little bit smaller than a pigmy
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: pig me is is a pigmy was a word given
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: by settlers and UH and later generations into farming was
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: used in UH. I think for Smithsonian Musa too. But
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a Tanzi is a type of an Indian tribe that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: has UH uh DNA Cherokee DNA in it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this area is deep in the heart of Cherokee
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and Creek. Yeah history. I guess you could say. I'm
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: going to say it was more Creek than Cherokee, but
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it's probably about how I don't know, it's probably about
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the same. It's actually not too far from you, Like
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the Macintosh Reserve. I've done a I did a big
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Foot town hall out there and uh. And sheep McIntosh
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was I think it was. He was half Scott and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: half Creek Indian, Okay, and uh. And it's not too
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: far from there. But give it away.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Back in back in those days, you know the Cherokee, Uh,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the women married into the show ed and vice versa,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and that kept wars down in peace because they had families.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And they've done a lot of that. So yeah, that
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: could have been Cherokee Creek, uh, some some type of
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: inner breeding or DNA with a toss. UH are mystical creatures.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: They can disappear and appear in front of you. They're
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: considered to be extremely mean, very territorial, uh somewhat, uh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit worser than the pygmies were.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: M Okay, I'm looking it up online, so we're gonna
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: find it a thoms Shapeshifter. Let's see. Okay, Well, let
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: me let me kind of explain just for a moment,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the way the thing was described, Okay, and I just
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: want to and I'm like, I don't want to get
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: too much into it until after I go and investigate, okay,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and talk to this person. But it sounded like it
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: was a small man with grayskin and very sharp futures
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: on a space and he was four feet tall, about
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: four feet tall. Now, I don't know, now, the pigmies
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: will be kind of small.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Too, right, I mean, pygmies are gently they're not that
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: big or twenty to twenty four inches.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Style, Okay, so they're pretty small. Yeah, Well, this thing
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: looked like just like a like child size, she said,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: about four feet tall. Of what I was told you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Uh, there's a I think it's in Indonesia. The Tonsis
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: they have two thousand and three, two thousand and night
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: they found Tonsis also in the country. Of Indonesia.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, don't see Tom, I'm stealing for I can't find it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: It's okay though, Okay, well, well I just find it
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: fascinating that people are actually encountering these things. I mean,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: actually watching something shape shift before their human eyes. Okay,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that's not that's not typical, Bruce, for people to see that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And and I find it really interesting going from looking
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like a deer to a dog to a man. And
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: then there's even more to the story. I don't know
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: if I should get into all this tonight, okay, but uh,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: but saying that it had actually like there, it was
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: interacting with like stuff that wasn't there, like a door,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like opening a door and like walking in and stuff
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and there's no door there, Like there's no door there,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: but there was a door there at that moment. And uh,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and it was fully aware and it was aware of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this person. This person was aware of it, and it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Was weird underworld activity, underworld.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something odd. But you know, my team is
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we've documented portals, sent people to him out in the field,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and it actually looked like an apparition of a building.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: That's what it looked like, you know, David Pardue has
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: written out he's drawn out what he saw. We have
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a video of it, but he actually drew what he
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: saw because he could see it better before they started
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: videoing it with a with a flear or the thermal
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and uh. And so it looked more like a building
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: with a cross out in front of it, like a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: church or something. Okay, that's the way he described it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I was like an apparition of a church or like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a house or something, is the way he described that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And so it's just I'm kind of making that connection
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in my mind. It's so like maybe it was some
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: kind of apparition with a like a portal. I don't
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: know if that makes sense, a portal.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: It was, I mentionally the same on all sides.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I was just told a door. But I'm going to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: go do this investigation here soon, okay, And and I'll
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: keep everybody posted on that, okay, But depending upon how
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: much they want disclose on all that, you know what
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I mean? But there there is it is interesting. And
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking about that, and I wanted
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to ask you about it because I figured you might
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: have some input before I go out there.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm a little unnerved by stuff like that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I can handle dog man, big foot, stuff like that,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: but when it comes to underworld activities such as the
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: words like that that don't exist, I'm not for sure.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a clue what I'm dealing with.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of what I'm worried about too, because
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like s walker is like a skin
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: walker or something, but something that would But that's not
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: typical to see one of them opening up a portal
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and walking through it, is it?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: What you know, what you were talking about sounds like
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a shape shifter. So the skin a skin walker would
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: be uh in lines with that, but would be having
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: human aspect to it, which the small person did. But
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I would I'd be more into a shape shifter. Yeah, yes,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and those can be those can be scary.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It's definitely a shape shifter of some sort. And uh,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and and here again, Okay, so this is uh this
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: gripping right on the roadside. It's like on a roadside,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like out in the country, right that happened, but in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the same area there's multiple bigfoot Okay, I actually pulled
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: up while I was talking to this person. I actually
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: got the county and I pulled up the BFRL reports
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and uh, and I went down. There were two main reports.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: One of them was ain't there right there all this happened?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And uh and let me tell you what it was. Okay.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So so the way the way it was described to me,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: what they're experiencing, it's dog men. Okay, to me, it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's dog men. And like I said, I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: going to go out there and do an investigation. But
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: there was a report and the person okay, one of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the reports was clearly a bigfoot Okay. The other report
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: that I read was something that was it sounded exactly
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: like what I saw in Alabama. It was an all black, bipedal,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: large creature that looked like a panther. Okay, kind of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: like a panther, but was walking on two legs. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: uh and so it sounds it was almost like the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: size of a bear, but it looked like a panther,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: they said, And uh, and so that's in the BFR
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: report there And and I thought, man, and that's similar
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to what these people are seeing where they lived, too,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: similar to what they're seeing.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Well, could it be a half were woolf and half
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: dog man?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I don't no, Bruce, can't it. I don't know.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would believe it would. It could be. Uh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: dog man's got the hands in the in the muscular front,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: build as a man. Uh. Even though the ones, most
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of the ones I've run into have been flesh and blood.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I've seen them do a couple do supernatural things. But
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I could say positively it was
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: supernatural or just something is adapted and gained the power
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to do. I just don't know.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Well, well, okay, so this, so this is separate from
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the sheep shifter, right that the chip shifter thing, And
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: this was like down the road from where the farm
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: animals are and stuff, and the farm animals are all
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: being affected by whatever these things are on their farm too.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And uh. And so, like I said, I do believe
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: there's some some dog man activity, could be bigfoot, could be.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: But from the district, you're saying the bar animals are
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: being bothered by it. Yes, yeah, that sounds it does
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: sound like a dog man, then it does.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. You know, because we get a lot
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: of these reports where people have farms and their cows
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: there are horses, their goats will not go back in
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the back part of a pasture, right, and it's near
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the woodline or wherever. But there's just a part where
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: they just will will not go there. And they all
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: crowd up in one area near the coral or something.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: They won't go. They won't go to certain parts of
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the pasture.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: And that sounds like a dog man, it does.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Bruce, You're gonna have to come out here and go
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: with me.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to get in on
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: something like that. Especially dog men big butt, they're just
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: not horses. Sometimes will stop on a big foot. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I was trained in man tracker and man tracking.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: You use a horse and the horse will do the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: tracking for you. If somebody's heading the bushes somewhere, or
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: horse will when you're stopped, a horse will turn and
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: look directly at him. He'll give them away every time.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And uh. But with dog man, a horse will a
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: horse will stand and stare a dog man where other uh.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Farm animals will herd up and meaning they'll hide tail
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it back to the barn or somewhere, and it affects
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: their nervous system. So if you if your bar mans
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: start acting strange and you're having that kind of activity
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I've had. I've had a farmer tell me that a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: big butt walked up and picked up a four hundred
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: pound hog, but the hog wasn't scared of it. A
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: dog man is completely different. They'll run from a dog man.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I think. I think the big butt
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: sers happening on them before they grab them, and probably
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: probably hypnotizing him something.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Well, the one is this particular man's hog. It was
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: like that movie they come out with I can't remember
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: the name of it, where the guy's hogs were missing.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: He goes and sits in a stand that night and
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: ends up shooting something and it wounds up being one
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: of his hogs. Well, years ago there was a man,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: a farmer, who told that and he got his hogs back.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: His hogs wouldn't hurt even though he physically seen this
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: creature monster he called it, picked up these four hundred
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: pounds top hogs up on each arm and walk off
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: with them just like there was a pet. And he
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: got them back. They weren't hurt. And then I heard
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of a guy that put surveillance cameras on his home
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: because him and his father and mother had a big
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: foot in their backyard. Well, their cat happened to be
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: out that day, and they've got it on video to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: where the bigfoot steps out of the bushes and picks
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: up the cat and it's holding the cat and before
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: it walks off, it says the cat back down.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, that's interesting, that's interesting. It's okay. So there
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: could be In my mind, I'm taking two things, like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: these animals are used to the to the bigfoots or
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: whatever creatures are out there. They're used to it, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: so they're just chill or there's something going on, because
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you know, when we have a lot of intense bigfoot activity,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: could be et activity. I don't know what it is bigfoot,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: we assume it's bigfoot activity. We're oftentimes just lulled to sleep.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: We all go to bed, you know, we don't go
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to sleep. We got our tents, and we don't investigate further.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm thinking they're doing with these animals.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: What they're doing is they're they're calming them down. They're
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: doing some kind of coogie mind trick with them to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: make them calm.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a possibility. I mean, I have seen some
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: strange things go on in the woods, and yeah, I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: mean they could intermittent a frequency that could calm you.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I know, the big book can do it. The ones
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that was down on the Cumelan River when they got
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: close to me, I had a calmness about me when
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I should have been unnerved. And it's hard to explain.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: But with a dog man, I'm on high alert and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: keeping my head about me and looking for ways not
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to get back into a corner or to leave, even
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: though they're not aggressive. It's just it's just very unusual
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: to see a massive dog walking on two legs with
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: a man's upper body. So it does with a big butt.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a big butt. You know, they got
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: different face features and stuff, but it is still a big,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: a big creature that can weigh a thousand pounds. But
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: they have a h a tree frog insect like talk
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to them, and it's very common. It's like the people
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: who listen to waterfalls and stuff at night to go
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: to sleep. This is very common. You will get tired,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: you will sit there and just relax, be just as
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: calm as a cucumber.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got two modes. It's either as zapp you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and make you sick or bullw you to sleep.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Of course, you got your you got your you've got
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: your big butt. That can be I'm not run into
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: maybe one, for sure, it probably would put you on
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the on the spit and grill you and then eat you.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: But for the most part, they've all been the ones
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I deal with. Now. I ain't gonna say if you
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: go up to Northwest Pacific or somewhere somewhere like that,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: one of them wouldn't pick you up, run off with
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: you and kill you. I just don't know. I'm just
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: going down what I've dealt with and what I know.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're all different, just like humans. Okay, good humans,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: and we got really crappy humans. And some humans will
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: eat you, just like be foot eat you some of them. Yeah,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: it is what it is.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: So you know, sometimes a mountain line will pass right
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: by you. Sometimes he will eat you for lunch. Right.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just saw a black panther think Tony
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: had put it on his Confessionals podcast. I mean he
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: was talking about that I saw and there was a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: it was like four they call it four K four D.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they call it. Four k uh
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the high depth like a trill cam of a black
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: panther in Tennessee, and I was like, man, I've been
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: seeing videos and pictures of black panthers for years. Okay,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: even though they say they're not around, they're out there, Bruce,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and I don't care what any makes this.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in Coker Creek, Tennessee. I lived there
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: for a while, right on the Cherokee. Actually I lived
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: inside the Cherokee National Forest. And we had an elderly
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: woman there here in her nineties. It kept uh things,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: we kept getting in, tearing her stuff up around the house,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: meeting her flyers and stuff like that. And she had
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: a company back then to come out and put her
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: up see TV cameras. And she had the best pictures
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: of black panther, one of the biggest ones I've ever
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: seen on a picture that looked as big as a
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: mountain line but was jet black. And it was coming
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: in her yard catching wild hogs. See the hogs were
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: tearing her stuff up, but it was a halfer. So uh.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: The neighbor down the road from her, when I was
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: there and she was showing me the video, he said,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you want me to come back up here and shoot
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that thing. She's like, no, leave it alone. It's catching
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: these wild hogs. Of course she was. She had two
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: or three cats in the house where she was a
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: cat lover anyway, So oh.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, well, I mean it's kind of like danged.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: If you do, danged if you don't. You know, it's
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: it's it can help you or it can also hurt you,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you know. So it depends on what kind of vermin
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: you need to take care of out there, you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: if you got small pets or whatever. Right, Yeah, I
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: try to leave all the wildlife alone, of course, but
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I also have a dog, and if I live on
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: if I if I still lived on a farm, living
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: on a farm anymore. But but you know, we had
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to watch out for our cows back in the day,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and even even stray dog from after the baby calves.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately, I've watched people on the farm
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: have to, you know, take care of business. When a
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: pit bull got out in the business, horrible. I shouldn't
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: say this, but I was out in the pasture, you know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: mauling the calves to it and stuff, you know, horrible.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: You gotta look out for your livestock out there.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I guess that taste of blood
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: they'll just kill them to be killing.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Them, that's right. Unfortunately, Yeah, and that's that's what people
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I think. That's where people also get that idea that
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like dog men are out there doing the same and
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: so many people are so scared of dog men because
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: they're afraid they're going to attack.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I actually had a really great conversation with this person
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: who I was taking this report from, because they were
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: actually really worried that these things were going to hurt
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: them and their livestock and their family. You know, they
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: got kids and all that out there. And uh, and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I try to kind of to calm the situation now.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: And look, they're not they don't typically hurt you.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: You know, if you back them into a corner or something,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: that's a possibility. Most of the time, they're going to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: eat deer. Uh, if you got any food outside your house,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: trash can, maybe you beat a dog outside with dog food,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: they'll get into stuff like that. But generally they won't
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: even bother your dog, but they will they will eat deer.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: A lot of hunters shoot deer and don't find the
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: deer and stuff, and they will They're like scavengers. They
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: will hunt deer and find dead deer need them.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's good to have a telepathic communication line
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: with those things. I guess you're they're living on your
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: property with you and uh, and they're just like roommates, right,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. I mean, I don't know, Bruce.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Do you do you have them out where you live?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: You ever had like dog men and big foot on
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: your actual property where you live and they were habitating.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I had that one, but I had to run it
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: off because you really don't want them around your house
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: because you know, uh, you come out in the morning
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: in a hurry to go grocery store, doctor's office or something,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: and you accidentally back them up. So you don't want
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: them around your house. You know, you don't want you
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to corner them with them not a way out,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and they can be extremely dangerous. I personally don't want
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: them around my house, meaning up against the house, peeking
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: through the windows and stuff. Now, if they want to
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: go over in the top of the mountain and the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: next doll are over and holler and carry on active food,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: that's fine with me. Just stay out of the yard,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: don't come.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Don't come kicking the dead cow and the billy. Right,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that's what he says. You ain't seen nothing to you
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: see it your buddy kick a cow and the billy
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that was that was that's really sad, But that was
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: actually a funny. That was a funny show. That was
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a moment about the possible is coming out the rear end.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I know, my audience remember that.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, your farmers can relate to that. They knew
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: when Larry said that, They knew exactly what he was saying,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: because all of us who farmed, uh had that happen?
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh man, it's it's just part of life, y'all.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: It is part of Bruce.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Max says Jess and Bruce were wolves and
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: beefoot have as many breeds as human normies as normies.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, oh yeah, Well, I mean we just alone
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: on the on the dog men chart that we have,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: there's like what seven or eight different types of dog
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: men out there. I mean, and I know it's different
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: than were wolves, right, but I mean, let's see if
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I can pull it up. There's a lot of different types. Okay.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: So I mean I know the one that I saw
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: like more like a panther kind of or a a
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: panther beer. You know, that's what I saw.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So the high the high ena ones are very uncommon. Uh.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: They're probably the ones I would worry about if I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: come in face to face with one in the woods. Uh,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: they're a little bit more aggressive.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But there's so many different ones out there. Uh. You'll
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: have a short snout dog men, the German shepherd head
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: dog men, the long snout dog men, uh, the hairless
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: dog men, the buckskin dog men, the deer colored dog
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: men with the white white patch on the front of them.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many different ones out there
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: that you really have to study it to know what
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: you're what you're looking at.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh. Yeah, there's a lot of different types.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And I think it's so wild because when I when
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I start talking to people and I'm taking reports, when
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I'm doing investigations and stuff and just talking to people
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: about their encounters, a lot of times they'll say, well,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you know what I saw, I just assumed it was
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: a black panther or something, right, and uh, And that's
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: that's where the conversation is kind of funky, right, because
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: they're having all this activity that they're having dog men
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: and stuff around their property or wherever they've been, wherever
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: they're wherever we're discussing, right and uh, and then they're like,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: but it, but it didn't have all the characteristics of
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: a black black panther. And now that you're you know
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the things that I've seen, I'm like, well, a lot
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: of people are describing those things as dog men, So
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: it kind of shifts a perspective a little bit to
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: be like, well, some of these dog men do look
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: a lot like black panthers.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, they don't have that. They'll have that short,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: furry hair mm hm. They'll have a uh that's more
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: like a panther. They're down on all fours. They'll have
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: that extremely long tail. Uh, they'll have a bushy tail
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: or they'll have a short inch and a half hair
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: on their tail. Uh. You'll have them that that are
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: extremely long hair that are madded m hm. Do you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: have them with a sharp pointed ears. You'll have them
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: with the floppy ears again, um hm. I think there's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: more types out there than a lot of people.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Think they are m h for sure, and I think
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of them that are not listed on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that chart. Okay, And so that's why it's good for
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: us to talk about this publicly in my opinion, And
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: uh Cajus says that does Bruce think cryptics come from
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: another dimension if their experiments or do they come from
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: another planet? Are the original of this planet? I don't know.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Bruce, Well, the most of the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: ones I deal with are flesh and blood, so they
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: come from this planet. Uh. Now, there are sounds that
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: they can make, card door slams, they can pop their
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: cheeks to make different sounds. But at the same time,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule out Chebacca style big boots coming from
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: other planets. I hear. I hear very credible stories on
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: people that would have no reason to lie to you,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: very upstanding people in the community who come to you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, don't I don't want you to repeat this,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: but this is what I seen. I've seen, and I've
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: seen the lights come out of the sky and land
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: in my field, just humongous light when it leaves their
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: stands of what looks to be a big pot. So,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they'll tell you they're they're encountering,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: but I don't want you to talk to nobody else
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: about it. So whether whether the interdimensional dimensional Uh, the
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: ones I deal with. I can only speak for that
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: of what people tell me. I can't speak for that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: because I didn't witness it myself. Blessing Blood now on
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: laser eyes a dog man, I'm seventy percent paranormal, but
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I'm still not one hundred percent paranormal. I'm still at
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Blessing Blood.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a just reminds me, I had a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: weird dream last night, Bruce, I had. I had a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: dream that I was being chased by a bigfoot, like
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: a regular bigfoot, organic, but its mouth was made of
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: metal and it was like a train to eat me.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I dreams, okay, but this was weird my dream. It
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: was almost like I was being shown bigfoot like, that's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: what it was. I was being shown like saber bidfoots
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: in my dream, and.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: This was or or he made somebody that had a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: grill and he decided to use their grill. His states
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: might have been bad, you know it.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Actually, I think in my dream it was a nice
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: big but it was okay. But he couldn't control his mouth.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: His mouth was being run by something different, like his
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: mouth was under control, was being ordered to go attack
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: people and stuff and so I know, I know that's weird, okay,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: but but I did dream that. So yeah, get in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the head of Jessico while she sleeps right there, that's weird.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: But anyways, I think I think there is some kind
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: of weird uh et. I mean, like I always say,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: all roads lead back to et. That's what my team
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: says a head of my team, and uh and I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: think there could be some kind of cyborg element to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: some of these things, and there could be original ones,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: there could be some that are mixed with alien DNA.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: We just don't you know, no, I mean, you have
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you have lakers out there that government officials that you know,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: the Tall Whites are in charge of the dog Man soldiers,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: so there you go. And then you had a huh
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: unclass classified document that leaked out that said that the Whites,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the Whites, Aliens, the tall Ones wanted all the animals killed.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: But then after talking to our agents and scientists, they
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: don't understand how we can live with them and not
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: catch their diseases and stuff from the animals that could
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: kill us, because with the animals and from their planet
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: kills them. So they wiped out all their animals.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: They must not have Bazuka's stuff. I don't just say
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: they're not from the.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: South then, right, they ain't eat no mud pies and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: stuff like we have.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Right, they're not eating freons and yeah, I know right
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: well flung militia and the Appalachians over here. But but yeah,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's pretty sad. I know, everything in this
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: world can eat us, Bruce everything exactly.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the aliens. That's what they're fascinated about, is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: that we coexist with all these other things that can
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: kill us at any time, you know, to them to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: exterminate every snake, poisonous stake. But we have an ecosystem
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: that everything has its place, and we deal with that.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: No offense. But the tall lights sound kind of whisky,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: just saying I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. No disrespect, no disrespect,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: but yeah, we're we're just super tough. I guess it's humans.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: We should all be proud of ourselves, you know, we
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: should be very proud of ourselves for being tough.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Look what our ancestors had to go through, you know.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Our ancestors were way cheper than
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: we are.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, sure, how many my my granddaddy told me.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: My great grandfather told me that they walked around bear
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: put it up in winter time. When they sold hogs,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: they get a new pair of shoes, and but by
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: the time spring come they wore the souls out on
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: If he stepped on the dime, he could tell you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: if it was heads or toes, heedge or tails. You know.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: So they it was a hard life back then.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt they had a hard life. Wasn't But
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: my dad, listen, My dad used to tell me he
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: used to walk to school uphill both ways in the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: snow when he was in high school. And that's not true. Okay,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: he just wants to think. We didn't think he was
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: that tough, but maybe his grandfather was. Okay, but but.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I've heard that dad. Yeah, so my grandfather told me
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: he would walk bare put it to school two feet
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: of snow, swim two rivers, climb a ridge and get
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: there for everybody else, and go out there and bust
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: up the coal with a sledgehammer and a pick axe
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: and get the cold so part in the school house
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: and warm by the time everybody got there.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh that's can I tell you what? Uh? People?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: People have always always been pretty tough and uh been tougher.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: We will always adapt and survive. We all have that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: capability and it's built in us. Sometimes we come down
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: on ourselves and don't think we can do it, but
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: can't never could do nothing, is what my grandmother said.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, hard times create tough people. We'll see people
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and easy times create I guess not so tough people. Right, So, uh,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: we won't get into that conversation. But anyways, yeah, we've well,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you know, our history is not what we've been told to. Okay,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: there are great grandparents and great great grandparents say they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: had it kind of rough, okay, compared to what we
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: have today, and and so, but our history has been
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: kind of covered up. It's kind of been a race.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I don't believe everything that I hear anymore. I don't
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: believe everything I read, even in my eighteen hundred's history
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: books I got on my shelves back here. I'm not
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: sure I believe all of it, some of it because
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I you know, I just don't know. Because we're learning
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: so much about the land and there's this these oh
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: my gosh, the pygmies. I wanted to talk about the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: pigmies tonight, Okay, because I sleep in your area where
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you live at and I think it's it's important we
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: talk about this because we talk about the dog men
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: of the Bigfoots being summoned and being guardian basically had
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: guardians of the land and all the sacred in through
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: curses and blessings. Yeah. Man, what kind of connection do
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: they have these pigmies? Do you think? Did you there's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: any kind of connection, Because I'm going to show some
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: maps tonight where the cemeteries are and there's a correlation there.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Yes. Uh, the pigmies were another race of people. We're
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: just small people. H They coexisted with the Indians. Some
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: of them were DNA checked and had actual Native American
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: blood in them, and they were the smiths. Onium lied
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: to the public when it comes to the pygmies, and uh,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: that made a lot of early settlers, uh who just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: got first started discovering them, and then their ancestors later
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: farmers running tractors and stuff who first who eventually dug
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: them up plowing as to smiths Onium made liars out
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: all of them. And it didn't take a it didn't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: take a good a good course. But thankfully I got
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: to see one about thirty two years ago. So now
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: I've got to see the grave during White White County,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: just not given the la exact location on six miles
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: southwest part of Tennessee. Now you see that, you see
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: that picture there. The smiths, the smiths Onium tried to
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: convince people but that was an infant, okay, And it
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: made a lot of them mad. Back in the early
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenties and thirties, a lot of the armors mad
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: because they tried to convince them that they those were
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: infants up to two year old kids. But if you
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: look at the molars and stuff, and on their teeth
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and the dipper cirk there were these were adults and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: they were twenty to twenty one inches tall. H every
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: now and then you'd have them a little bit smaller,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: just a little bit taller. But there you go. There's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: one now that that doesn't look like an infant to me.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: You see the.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Teeth, No, that's the first thing I noticed. It's kind
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: of dult teeth in.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: There, those teeth right. Yeah, when they were when they
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: found them, they were in the twenties and stuff. They
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: were found in the late seventeen hundreds, but in the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: In the nineteen twenties and thirties, the Smithsonium come in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: and I went on these people's farms where they found
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: them already taken. Instead of taking four or five to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: test and see what they were, they started coming in
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: and taking them by the thousands. And an elderly gentleman
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: showed me he had several of those graves on his
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: property and his family never would tell the government or
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: anybody about them. They just wouldn't use that part of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: the land. And keep in mind it's limestone rocks. They're
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: about twenty inches long on the sides. They are twelve
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: inches to nineteen inches wide on each end. Those are
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: tents there. That's a tent grave. The pigmies were flat,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: were flat boxes made them lives, and inside that would
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: be a complete skeleton x ten inches deep, nineteen inches wide,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four inches long, and it was made of
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: limestone rock bottom, sides and top. And when they when
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: they were taking apart, there's complete skeletons and there's pottery
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: in one corner with a hand of the skeleton touching
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: them the jar of potery. And so when Smithsonium got
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: a hold of it, they come back and said, no,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: these were full grown Native Indians and they were just
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: kop bones, were just cut down and stuff and bundled
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: together and pitched in these small grays, which was untrue
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: because the farmers and that found them knew better. And
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: by then when cameras come out, polaroids come out in
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: the seventies and eighties, there were really good pictures of
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: complete skeletons and these little bitty skeletons inside these boxes. Uh,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the farmers just uh would cover them back up and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: not tell anybody about them. Just the locals knew about
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: them because they didn't want the government to come back
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: in there. On several occasions when the government come in
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: mending the Smithsonium, they would take over these farms for
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: months at a time, and people, you know, had to
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: have their farms to live on and raise their their
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: animals and stuff. That's how they eat sold at market,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: the tobacco crops, stuff like that. And like I said,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: they'd just come in and take tens of thousands of them,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: and then the smith smiths Onium would come back a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: year or so later another they're full grown Native American Indians.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: They'd just been cut down and tied with leather and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: dropped in these little boxes, you know, which was totally
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: not true. Now when you get out west uh western
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: part of the United States, they did do that, but
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: the boxes were bigger. But these full skeletons, as you
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: can see here, that's a full skeleton. Okay, that box
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: is probably twenty inches long, nineteen inches wide, and sixteen
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: inches deep. That is small. I mean, that's a little bitty.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: It looks like a full grown human right there, just
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: looking at it, Yes, like an adult. It looks like
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: an adult. That is a child's skeleton.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe that that particular one was was was
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: brought out by a farmer in nineteen eighty six. Baint mistaken.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Wow. Now, when I was researching this today, I was
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: looking up and I kept pulling up pictures of mounds
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Do you think some of these were something
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: part of the mound builders at all? I mean was
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: there a connection there? Bruce?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yes? But like again, you know when you get
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: into these bottoms and these flat flat top a lot
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: of it that got tore down and turned into farmland.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, a lot of it did talk about
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: land getting cursed. I'm just saying and even with these
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: with these pigmy people. Now, this is a this is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: really cool to me. This is really interesting because I mean,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: check this map out. Let's see where I get this map.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Now this actually this is way have to blow this
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: up so I can read it. Distribution of stone box
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: graves by region. Stone box graves, that's what you were describing, Bruce.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: That's what they're buried, right, limestone boxes.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, that dips down into North Georgia and North Alabama, Okay,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and it goes all the way up to what is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: that Indiana and Ohio. I mean, that's that's prime real
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: estate for all the you know, Mississippian Mounds and things
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: like that right west Virginia all the way to Pennsylvania, Missouri.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Look at that, and and so this so the pygmies,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: these are civilizations of people, Bruce, Right, I.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Mean, so you had the warriors Path that run through there.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: You bring your other map up. You just showed them
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: in to go that one. Yes, to the right there,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: the Warriors Path gets through there and goes into Kentucky
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: and into the left you have Davison County in Sumner County. Well,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Davison County was built uh, Nashville was built on the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: river bluffs. And then when you get into Sumner County,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: you get up on the plateau, which is mostly plat land,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: and so you had those pigmies on the Warriors Path,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: and on the Warriors Path there where all these markers are.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Of course, you'll see Pupman County completely covered up. You'll
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: see they don't show in the black on Jackson County,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: in Clay County, the Pickett County, Pintriance County, all those
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: counties there are. This was a super highway for all natives.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: So you had each section, may whether it be one
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: hundred yards a mile or five miles, was controlled by
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: a tribe of some kind. So that was a trade route.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: And then you had the pygmies controlled all of White County,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: but they were scattered all up and down through the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Warriors Path and into even as far back over into
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Davidson County.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, that's that's fantastic. I mean that actually
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: it goes straight down the middle of Tennessee, the whole
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: entire state from north to south. Yes, and and that's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: there was maps right there or where the graves are. Okay,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: So one I think actually this map is where they
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: were mostly located. And then this.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Is that right yes, in Spareda. You'll see Sparda there
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: right there below Pumpman County in Sparta A loan the
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Smithsonium took out over one hundred thousand graves and took
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: the bones one hundred thousand.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: I always thought there was this one. Okay, I'd heard
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: about this. I actually had somebody contact me said hey,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I will take you to the Pigmy cemeteries. And I
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened with that. My messaged completely forgotten.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so scattered, I forget. So if you're
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: watching this, whoever invited me, please invite me again. I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: don't know who, but they invited me. They're like, you know,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: you can't tell anybody where this is that because apparently
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: there's some like secret cemeteries that they don't want people.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: To know about, right, they don't want the government to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: know about. So if they let people know about the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: government will find out about it. But you've got to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: keep in mind in that area through there that they
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: were more people that lived back then than they are
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: living there today. So these was mashup amounts of people population.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: So you got in that one county alone, a little
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: over one hundred thousand graves pigmy graves that were found.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Not all of them were disclosed because a lot of
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: the farmers got wise and started protecting them because of
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Smithsonium come back and said, well, these were full grown
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: natives and they were cut down and tied with leather
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: to pit in these little boxes, which is true, Proud West.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: But these farmers were the ones that found the boxes
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: and by plowing fields and stuff, and thends come off
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: of them, and they knew what they were seeing, a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: complete skeleton of small people. And they all knew that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: infants in two euros didn't have a wisdom teeth like
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: that or grown's adult teeth.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: My hand. Well, okay, so well website, I have a
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: couple of different nights. I learned to show the audience
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: tonight and this is a great one. This guy has
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: a blog and a podcast. It's Lyle Russell dot net.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: You guys go to Lyle Russell dot net. Says he's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: got Tennessee ghosts and legends podcasts. Okay, and this is
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: his website and he's got a pretty good overall history
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: and brooch. You've already given us a good bit of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the history here. But let's see he says, he said
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: that the Tennessee history says the early eighteen hundreds. You
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: mentioned the White County Bruce, hundreds of graves, the crop fields,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: and the tenant. They call it the Tennessee Pygmy tribe.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: In the spring of eighteen twenty, on the shores of
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Caney Fork River, five miles south of Sparta, Tennessee, a
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: local farmer named Turner Lane discovered the He uncovered several
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: graves when he was plowing his fields, multiple grades of tiny,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: intentionally aligned skeletons buried in earthen coffin of limestone. And
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: and so he said that was eighteen twenty eighteen eighteen
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: twenty mm. They said they were only about two and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: a half to three feet tall, and there were hundreds
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: of them. And that's when they found that. They discovered them.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: They call them the Tennessee Pigmies. And uh. And like
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: you said, you said, the graves were ten inches white,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: eighteen inches long line with blue hued limestone. It's not
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: from that area, now, that is weird, Bruce. Why where's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: this blue limestone coming from?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: That's coming further down south and then it's coming further
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: north of the Kentucky Tennessee line.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, So they had to bring it in. They
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: shipped that in.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: From somewhere right right up and down that Warriors Path.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: They probably found a pretty good rock quarry of it.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Wow, well they had. They were full skeletons. And they said,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: had turn Lane made him minumntial discovery and human evolution?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Did he discover a small race of prehistoric humans? These
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: are some of the pictures we've already shown. I mean
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: those that's wild. Just thinking about a civilization of small
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: people like that. That's not something that we learn in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: our history books. Bruce, I was never taught that. No, Well,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: of course there's that controversy. He goes on to say that,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: you know, of course they were told the Smithsonian is
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: going to is in charge of changing our history purposes only,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: and uh, and so they're they're going to try to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: get all this out of there. Now, are there still
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: some skeletons out there? I mean, I know I was
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: told there's at least one cemetery where there's still there's a.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Lot of private farms that's still in the generations of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: families still own that have thousands of these uh grape
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: sites on it, but their hush mouth about it. They
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to lose their land or they don't want
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: their land destroyed from all the excavation, because when the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Smithsonian come in there in the early nineteen hundreds, they
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: destroyed a lot of farms, so a lot of farms
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: had to be redone oh man, talk.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: About eminent domain and stuff. I'll tell you what the government,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: will you swoop in and take your land? Say they
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: need to put a reservoir there or something. Just saying if.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: People are interested in looking for some of the artifacts
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: of these little people, go to the Capkiller River. They're
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: in White County and you can float it or use
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: a boat and just glance up and down the banks there. Generally,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: after heavy rains and up those artifacts will come to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: the surface.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is really interesting. Two group says
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: that in March of eighteen seventy six, the New York
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Times ran a lengthy piece about the pigmies of Tennessee
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: as an answer to the discovery of the Kentucky giants.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: So there's not only being giant skeletons found in these
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: mounds and stuff, but now got the pigmies as well,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: and it says there was a grouping of giant skeletons
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: over eight feet discovered in Columbia, Kentucky that same year.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: The giants were associated with the myths surrounding the ancient
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: mail building humans on the Ohio River Valley down the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Mississippi Valley, and it said it wasn't long before the
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: pygmy miss became associated with the mail builders as well
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: as the Tennessee pigmy David to a Kentucky giant goliath,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: David Goliath, and that's interesting. They say that in Woodbury
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: and Hillsboro, located in Coffee County, Tennessee, was reported and
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: compared in sizeoscope to eighteen twenties defined on mister Land's
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: farm of White County discovery in Hillsboro, over six acres
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: filled with up to one hundred thousand graves of humans
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: about three feet tall. This new mass grave would once
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: again give the public the perception that pygmies were real,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: and perhaps the Smithsonian reports were less than honest. They're
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: lying one hundred thousand.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Bruce and six ichers. Yeah, yep, that's that's below mc
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: menville over in Woodbury Tennessee, which is from Sparta that
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: would be southwest.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, So this, this bus is how they describe them
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: as looking. They believe the Homo flores Sianists Florescianists. I'm
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: sure I pronounced that wrong. It says that they became
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: extinct seventeen thousand years ago. But this is what they
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: assume these pygmy people looked like. I find that fascinating,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating. That is what they claim to look like
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: But then you have Indian and folklore that traded.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: With these, They treated with them, but we had giants
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: and we had pigmies and all sorts of things going
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: on here. Okay. So man, well, well, at least it's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: been documented somewhere. And if it weren't for these farmers
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: plowing up these graves, we never know.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: About this stuff, right, And keep in mind, I'm estimating
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: another mean graves that's not been found because the farmers
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: are intentionally not telling them about them.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, Bruce. I know people that claim
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: to have giant skeletons in their personal collections out of Lovelock,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: out of the lake and stuff, because they know the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Smithsonian would come and take them. They never. Yeah, I've
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: been assured there are some in private collections.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: This is a good thing, no opinion, for entertainment purposes only.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I cannot confirm nor deny though, because I don't know.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it, Okay, So don't come knocking on
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: my door, anybody.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen the pig. I've seen it. When one
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: pigmy grave where the farmer he actually slid the top
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: back so I could look at it, and did have
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: an urn at the top right hand side, and the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: hand or arm and the skeleton touched the urn. And
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: he showed these six others uh sights and they're all
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: within a foot of each other, and uh. And I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: asked him not to uncover the rest of them because
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I've seen that one. And that was enough to convince
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: me that it was a complete skeleton, because you could
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: see the feet, the arms, the ribcage, the bone, the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: hip bones, everything was there and nothing was cut downsize.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: I looked at all that. I've done the measurements on
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: the limestone, and it's bluish. Now. They did have a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: quarry on the Warrior's Path. They were getting some of
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: these rocks, but at the same time the minerals in
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: certain areas after these rocks were cut for these graves
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: turned bluish. Now they don't know if that was what
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: was in those little vases. They were at the top
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: of their heads, but they were, you know, artifacts in
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: that also along with something some type of dye.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: WHOA, how interesting. That's cool that you've gotten a seen one.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: That's really cool. Do you think that that would be
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: a bad thing to have something like that? Like if
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: you hadn't if somebody had a skeleton of a pigmy
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: like a casket whatever they're in and they put it
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: in their barn or something, is that just a asking
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: for a curse on your land right there? What would happen?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so, because a lot of those farmers
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: after the Smithsonium and the government done them that way,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: what ones that were took up there were exposed that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: you could see, they did move them and hide them
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: in places, and some places were in barnstalls where they
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: dig holes in the barnstalls and stack them in there
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: and cover them back up.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, Robert says, hey. Robert says notb Creek Creek, Selina,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Tennessee River Bluff Ive giants bonds were removed from the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: cave overlooking Cumberland River. Now this is the North Cumberland area.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Am I correct? Is that like where this is at?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Salona, Tennessee, Clay County. Yes, it was took out.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: It was took out of the the river bank there
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: at the forks of the river of Obie River and
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Cumberland County and Cumberland River. Yes, he's correct on that.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Very cool man. I love I love learning geography and
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: stuff too. Larry said, this is true, Larry Larry says
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the Smithsonian probably sold the skeletons to private collectors and
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: destroyed most of them. Yeah, probably made a pretty penny
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: off those that they did. Yeah, that's such a shame.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of those farmers back then, you know, allowed
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: them to take so many, but then they ended up
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: taking them all you know that was uncovered, and so
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: they made sure other farmers learned the lesson, made sure
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: not even much as the government know about them. And
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: so they try to keep the land secret and respect them.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: So a lot of them have changed their pasture lands
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Once they've run into them, they
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: will fence the areas all because you're talking about it
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't take one hundred acres. One hundred acres of land
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: would hold several thousands and thousands of these. So if
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: you've fenced off your your yeah, made hundred acres. Because
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: you get up in White County, the grounds just flat
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: as a tabletop until you get to the south of Sparta.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Then you get into a little bit more hilly or
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: bluffier type.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: So these graves were all marked or no, they weren't
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: marked because he didn't know to plowed them up, so
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: they weren't marked. Or some of them marked though, because
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: when you look it up online they show like actual
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: cemeteries with markers on them. But that's not the pigmies.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: That's not the pigmies the farmers. The farmers marked them
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: by memory alone. They knew the areas they were at.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: These these are flat boxes, narrow boxes with a flat lid.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Now up here, when you get up in here, the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: settlers up here done the the what we call the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: honeycomb style, which is rocks that will bee to cover
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: the grave sites.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's cool. Okay, Well that that makes more
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: sense actually, And wow, I wonder how many civilizations have
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: been here that are underneath those you know what I mean,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: just layers upon layers of different types of people.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: And then you got the Eastern Band of Cherokee just
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: got one of their mounds back, but it's like eighteen
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: feet shorter than the originally was because it was excavated
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: so many times. You know. Wow, it's sad because they
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: took layers and layers of the Indians and artifacts out
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: of it. To words, just a few just a few
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: peet tall now when it was eighteen feet tall with
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: a lodge sitting on very tip of it. Wow.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Man, it's a shame. We're losing off our history and uh,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: it's all getting covered up. I mean, even these man
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: made legs. That's that's one of the things I've been
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: talking about a lot of these man made lakes that
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: have been put in through through imminent domain as well,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: you know, getting everybody kicked out their land and stuff.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's what I stand on my
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: soapbox with that. I think that they're they're taking this
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: land because it does hold secrets of our true history
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: and they want to cover that up. Yeah yeah, put
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: a bake over it. How How what is an easier
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: way to cover up our true history than to put
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: water over it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well that's right here. And for the audience,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: in case you guys want to know, this is a pdf.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: You can go download this. Go to www dot Academia
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: dot edu, look up Tennessee Ancient Pygmy Graveyards, the wonder
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: of the Western Country and uh and these are They've
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: got PDFs of these articles that you can download with
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: pictures and all of that on the Tennessee pigmies if
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: you guys are interested in this and other other articles
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: that actually go with this topic. Right here, this is
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: a great resource you guys want to look into this. Uh,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: that actually goes back to even the paleo how was
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: that pale paleo botanical remains of the Native American sites
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: in the Upper Cumberline Plateau. I mean they talk about
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: all the caves and the even the pictures that are
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: you know, with the artwork and that are inside the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: caves and things like that, and uh, it's just it's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: just fascinating. Okay. They even get into Goiver's travels and stuff,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: you know, like how some of these things were depicted
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: in some of the old literature back in the day.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: Right, And it shows him and his drawing there, uh right,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: interacting with the pigmies.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: So maybe we're the giants. I don't know, I'm getting
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: confused now, I'm thinking, man, what more act of the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: giants bruces?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: There were people a lot bigger than.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Us, oh yeah, yeah yeah.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: And you know also it's also depicted in what is
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: that Rip van Winkle up in the Catskill Mountains as well,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: where Rip van Winkle got in a fight with his wife,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: walked up into the mountains to take a break and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: ran into some pigmies and they had some beer and
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: he drank it and he woke up with eighty years
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: later some good it talking about moonshine in Kentucky, some
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: strong stuff.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but these are some of the same pictures that
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: we showed earlier. And but this is just elation here.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: It's a good read and if you even want to
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: google it, google it, Google the Pigmies of White County, Tennessee,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: and then it'll give you a start there. And then
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: and as you read it keeps going, and as you
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: read more and more into it, then you'll realize where
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: the Smithsonium you can catch them in there lie and
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: that path. Right there is the one that I researched heavy.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: That's the Warriors Path.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Now, Bruce, we talked about the Warriors Path. Is this
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: where you've had your dog man encounters?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, Is this where you saw your booby dog man?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: Say about again, Is that.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Where you saw the dog man poopy?
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I saw it right up here. You'll
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: see it close to the top Picket Pinrice County. Right
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: right there. It is right to the right of those
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: of that black mark there, that black mark the Picket County. Uh,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: there's cave systems there, and that's where I found it.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Take it.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: I'll think it's right up here. And then you've got
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: pinterest And then right in here is Putman County. I
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: run into a lot of my big foot counters in
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Putman County. Uh, Overton County. Over here in Jackson County. Uh,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: you get into Picket and banterst Cumberland County is another
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: good county.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: You get over here towards Macon County, Jackson County. Uh,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: you get into a lot of your big foot encounters there.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I'll be okay. Well that's where where in
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: relation to this is Whitleyville where I did my investigation
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: with actions to the It's over to the left, correct,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: like the black.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you'll go about uh, if you'll go to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: the top of the mount and count one, two, three down,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: that'll be and then go over one whte spot right
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: there and you'll see it, says Jackson County.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see it, Jackson County right by that circle.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: It was kind of like a circle.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, yep. I think that's actually in the Warriors Path.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't market, but Jackson County
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: is part of the Warriors Path.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well cool, okay. Well, And so for the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: audience you're not familiar with this, this is where we did
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: that skin Walker Cave investigation about three was that three
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: years ago?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: Four years ago?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time, but uh where we had
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: that that really wild stuff that went down out there.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: And uh and so Bruce, you're you. That is your
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: stomping grounds, and that's something that you and I had
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: in common when we first met. You know, we both have.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I have researched that area and you are from there
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: and I did some used to work out there right
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: when you were in law enforcement.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: Yep. That was one of my stomping areas.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'll be, yeah, I'll be and uh and so
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: so this is but these are the pictures that they show.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: These are the pigmy graves. But that would would that
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: be something that they put as a marker after the.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Fact, that's a that's not a pigmy grave. That's a
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: tint grave. That's a smithsonium trying to throw you off.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: That's a tint grave. That's the early uh uh farmer's grave.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Probably eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. They made those tin
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: graves like that to keep animals from digging you up.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: A slab. Just get a slab. Labs is better than nothing. Okay,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: well they were there. It seems like they're being advertised online,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: is like this is what the pygmy graves are. That
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: way you go to those out right instead of looking
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: for the real stuff.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, keep in mind, your pigmic graves are not
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: going to be but about twenty one inches long. So
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: if you look at that, you're looking at probably six
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: foot seven foot and the pigmic graves are gonna be
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: twenty one inches twenty two inches. We're gonna be nineteen
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: inches wide. And they're gonna only be sixteen inches deep.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: So it's a little box. But it's got a flat
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: top on it, flat sides, and a flat bottlement. It. Wow.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Wow. All right, Well, so we're told we're told that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: this is just all mythological meet up stuff and those
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: were just the graves of children. But my god, if
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: there were one hundred thousand children buried out there, that's
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of kids. Why would all those kids be
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: dead they were.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Parents, right, and then why would all of them have
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: adult teeth?
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: It was naxtly. I don't buy it. Okay, those are
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: those are pigmies. That is so cool, man. I just
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's incredible. Uh to talk about this,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: it's not something I hear about very often. I don't.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I don't ever hear anybody talking about the pigmies of Tennessee.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I know anybody talking about it.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: A friend of mine named Daniel I Kahun who has
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: a mystical journey. Uh they cannot drive throughither. He has
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: a anxiety attack. It messes with him bad because when
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: you get out there, when you get right south of
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Sparta and you go west, the area is so heavy
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: where all these graves are that it can actually affect
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: your breathing.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: There's different males, you know.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: It's the energetics of the place, right.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: Uh he has he has when he goes through there.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: He has time lapses, uh extreme even problems. Uh uh
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: he even I don't know what he did, but but
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: uh he they it drove his truck for him. I'll
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: put you to push it that way. Oh no, right.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: That's really that's really kind of sad. But it's also
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: fascinating to me. Uh that any kind of place that
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: has that kind of an effect on a person's body.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of power.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's got a kind of power. I wonder
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: if it sits on lay lines and stuff too out there.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: I really hadn't looked into it.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Because right now here we go, let me look this is,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: this is These are some of the main lay lines.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: There's more lay lines of course. Yeah, well it looks like,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: let's see there's there's a lay line a bit man,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: when that goes through Nashville. Okay, like towards Nashville and
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: through the state that way.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: So k could be well because some of the some
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: of the pygmies were also found in Nashville and Sumner
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: County right above Nashville.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: So, like I said, there's more Ley lines out there. Okay,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: they're small, some of the main ones, and it does
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: go through there close by, So I don't know that
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: would be an interesting place to go ghost hunting. Bruce, Yes, Yes,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: put the least camera out.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Yep's go at night Tesla go around that crooked road
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: between Woodbury and Sparta. It's really crooked going up and
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: down mountains and through hollers to be the perfect place.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: That's where everybody, uh has panic attacks, lose their breasts,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: stuff happens through their vehicles. I mean, there's all kinds
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: of high energy, highest range iness there.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Wow. You know, I just saw a comment from Leah,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you Leah. She was talking about petroglyphs and Utah
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: showing similarities and Egyptian figures and blimmys and things like that,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: and that's where I was kind of I've been thinking
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: about that while we're talking tonight. Are maybe the connections,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: if there are any, to these Egyptian settlements and stuff too.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, is this a whole different you know, it's
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: probably a whole different time period, whole different era, But
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: there have been some people do it. Do theorize that
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: ancient Egypt is actually right here in the south, the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: original Egypt, I guess with the Pyramids and the Mississippi
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: is actually the Nile and all that. I wonder if
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: there's any kind of connections.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: There out well, that's a really good possibility because if
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: you follow the Bible and get into the ancient Bibles,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: it leads to America. So it's a possibility.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah, all right, we're unraveling mysteries, one little
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: person encrypted at a time over.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Here, so that the Appalachian Mountains were here during the
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: Egyptian times. So yes, yes, they could very well be.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: They could be. And uh, you know, Colleen has a
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: good point too. Colleen says, Hey, Colleen, she says, little
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: people are still around. One came to talk to my
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: brother with my brother at my grandma's house on the reds. Yep,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: we hear about those often. Well, we talked about punk
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: wadgies before and stuff. And I know that's different. I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: think that's different than just the little people or the
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: pigmies because pigmies are puck woodies. They're like little humans, right.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, Pigmies are little humans. Punk wogies are little humans
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: but can be practice. Uh I call witchcraft after supernatural things.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh man, well, I mean the Cherokey had
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: legends of this, yes, Cher, the Cherokey little people. Do
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: you think the little people could have been the pigmies?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because of the DNA that was done in
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three shows Uh Cherokee DNA and the pygmies.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hm wow, that's interesting. That's really interesting. What is
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the connection also if there's one to the moon eyed people,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: the moon.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Eyed people of the mountain range of Appalasia. Uh hey,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: it could very well be. I mean they could be
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: one of the same. You know, the the early settlers
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: and the farm named these things pigmies in White County
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: in these other counties, and they could very well bend
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: the moon eyed people. But the the the argument on
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: that is is the skull eye sockets are made the
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: same as the human average human eye socket, even though
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: they're tiny. You know some of these, some of these
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: pygmy skulls is only three inches around.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: They're tiny. Okay. Well, I also wanted to point out
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: as well. You know, we showed this map and the
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: graveyards are specifically pinpointed to Tennessee game. But this map
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: that they're showing, they inhabited all of this area right here,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: and that goes all the way up to Pennsylvania, over
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: a Missouri, down to Alabama and Georgia. And I know,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I do know. When I was I did a show
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: on the Alabama dragon. Okay, there's a dragon. I believe
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: that I've seen a petrified dragon in Alabama. I was
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: shown it by a person. We were on an investigation
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: out there, a dog man investigation actually, and uh. And
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: so when we went there, I started doing some research
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: on dragons in Alabama, and I started learning about a
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Welsh prince. I believe he was a prince. He was
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: definitely an explorer, but he's from Wales, and he came
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: over to the New World over here, and he by
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: way of South Alabama what Alabama is today, what Alabama
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: back then? Okay, but but where like Gulf Shores area, okay,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: And he landed there in the Atlantic, and he took
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: a tour like up through Alabama, and his on his
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: crest like he had dragons and stuff. And so I
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: was making the connection of like the dragons. But more
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: importantly was that in his diaries he talks about meeting
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: civilization a door or like pigmies, and that's where Alabama
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: is today. And so I'm thinking that he met the
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Pygmy race, and here we go. It actually does go
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: down into Alabama. I mean that looks like it goes
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: kind of deep into Alabama.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: And if you look at that and you study your
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: soul types, most of that that they're showing right there
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: is red clay. Yeah, so that's unusual too.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's nothing but clay down here in Georgia.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see when you get into when you leave
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: Putman County and go into White County, which is part
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: US fifteen miles from me, which is in White County,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: it turns all turns into red clay, and it stays
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: like that all the way through into Alabama Georgia places.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: So that's another thing. And then when you get over
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: to Davidson County on the bluffs there where they were bound,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of red clay bound there. And
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: then when you go north into Sumner County and get
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: around the uh Westmoreland making County line of Sumner County,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: you run into more red clay. So there's something to
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: do with this red clay that that I think attract
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: some are their way alive.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there must be some kind of a connection there,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's also right in the middle
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: over all these mountains and stuff are too. I mean, honestly,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: at that very top area of Georgia where they there,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: it's on the map that's where the ancient Mayan ruins
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: are up at track right gap. It's like right in there, Okay,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: So not to say it was, I mean they call
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: it Mayan ruins, but I mean could be I don't know.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: It could have been some pimmy couldn't be some like
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: little pygmy houses and stuff out there's not what you
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: know what to look for, so right, yeah, there's more
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: stuff to look for.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Now out in the Could you imagine all these cave
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: systems that's too small for us to crawl through, But
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: if we was that size, we could run through there.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: Man. Oh yeah, what you could.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Find back in there would be unreal it.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: Would it would be. But but just like a lot
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: of people in the chatter are saying, even Gene, she says, hey, Gene,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: she said they have little folk everywhere. England has talked
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: about them and fairies and.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: The famous leprechaun.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: You know which one, the Craton Leprechaun out of Alabama.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: You might be a crackhead. I'm just kidding. That's one
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: of my favorite leprechauns. Okay, just so y'all know. But yeah,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: there's I mean, they're still seeing all over the place. O. Hey,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: so we might know their origins now, y'all. I don't know,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: maybe not maybe maybe not.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: Hawaiian in Hawaii has them too, mh. And that they're
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: not talked about by scientifically or I don't know if
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: you could even google them and pull them up. But
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: they have the little people too.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: They have them in Africa as well. Yeah, let's see.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can pull them up. Pigmy
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: people all over the world. Let's see. Let me share
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: my screen. I guess. Let's just go ahead and do
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: this because this is cool. I like to research while
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: we're live on air. Why not? Why not? We're all
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: learning together. Okay, the pigmy People's Wikipedia. Let's see this
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: will come up. Well, yeah, this is modern day right now. Now,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: this is not these are It's called pygmyism, I guess
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: right here. But but actually, if you go, gosh, there's
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: something there's one day that travels all over the world.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I follow him on Instagram, good lord,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what his name is. But he's been
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: showing he goes like Indonesia and you know, places in
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: India and Asia, and he's done all sorts of pigmy settlements,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: like little civilizations and cackles and like things where they lived,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like and I'm talking about even smaller than
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: these things that we're talking about today, these pigmies, right,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I have a feeling that if we look
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: it up like on Wikipedia, is going to be modern
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: day pigmies out of you know, the congo and things
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: like that. Okay, I'm looking for other types from back
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: in the day. Okay, Well I'll have to do some
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: research later on all this, because yeah, they're just going
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: to talk about of course, these are these are not
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: supposed to be real, right, These are supposed to be
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: children's bones. Hundreds of thousands of children's skeletons in Tennessee
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: in mass grade.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Basically you're side by side in these little rock limestone boxes.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: But they got they've got a thirty year old adult
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: modelers everything. So man.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: Ah, the men, I can't ever pronounce this right, the
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: men min mina hewn? Is that how you pronounce that?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Manhun built the Hiu Temple and walls in Hawaii. That's right,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: the little people in Hawaii. Yep, there's that. Yeah, that's fantastic.
• 1:55:34
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• 1:55:46
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• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: That was very sweet of you, And I'm sorry I
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: missed that earlier. I'm sorry. I get so busy, Bruce,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: I miss everything. Yeah, my best. I do my best.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all keep up with the chat.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes we get so so entangled in the conversation
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: we just forget where we've got viewers out there. Sometimes, well,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: I i'd love it.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: Ter acting with the audience, but we also, man, I
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: do I get enthralled, get in, I get into this
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: stuff and it's just fascinating. So I can't over.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: Try to find But you've got a great chat and
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: one of the best chats as there is.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: After Yes, I do. I am so proud of my
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: chat room.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: I just love everybody in here. We have the best
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: chats and a wonderful audience. Everybody that sticks with us
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: throughout all the shows and stuff, and the moderators are
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: top notch, and I'm so appreciative of everybody for being here.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: And uh, I saw Stargate asking bringing up the fact
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: about clothes and furs and stuff. I wonder what they dress, like,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: do they do they have? Like how advanced were these pigmies?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: I really don't I don't really don't know because the
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: one that I seen, of course, it was a skeleton
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: inside the box in the ground and the only thing
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: I seen was like a clay base. So I mean,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: if it had clothes or anything, they probably were going
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: years ago, you know. I don't know if they wore
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: animal skins or run around naked. I just don't know.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: I've never heard anybody finding any type of animal skins
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: in their graves.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, we've only heard about the pottery. That's it.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: So it's just skeletons, So like, no jewelry and stuff
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: like that, because a lot of times, you know, gold, silver,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: things like that, any kind of theres There's been none
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: of that found. I guess no more.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: If there was, they didn't somebody took it and didn't
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: tell about it.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, grave robbers and stuff, right, I don't know.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: It sounds like this such a rural area. The ones
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: that were found were on farmland exactly. And I'm not
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: saying they may may not have been looted, because that
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as people find out about this stuff,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: they will go loot that always, So we'll never know.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: We'll never know. And Max says, as above, so below
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: giants versus pigmies, they did, say David versus Goliath, Right,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: David or the pigmies, Goliath or the giants? What if
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: they did live side by side, Bruce, I'd be interesting
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: they live like the same time periods.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: I would tend to believe they did, because they're found
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: and finding them in mounds and cave systems, and they
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: they're they're dating back to about basically the same times,
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: the same times in history. It seems like the giants
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: may have uh uh, well quicker than the Pygmies did,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: or or did they did? They did they interact with
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: the Indians? And stuff like that, and just over time
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: that their full breed may have ah been mixed in. Yeah,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: the gene pool.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking there could have been. Like also, if there's
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: so many of these graves, like mass graves, they're talking
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: about one hundred downs, what if there was like some
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: kind of a I said, a genocide and you know,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, like they were just wiped out
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: at some point for some reason. You know, Yeah, I don't.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: Know, it's wild, but now it's a it'd be hard
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: to say. I wouldn't think they'd been a mass genocide
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: because of how the graves were made and put together.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: Nice and neat, right, Yeah, just a bunch, just a
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: bunch of Yeah. And these days, like everybody's getting cremated now, okay,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: so like most people, most people that I know, this
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: is wild though to Bruce, the majority of people that
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: I know that have died, I know a lot of
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: people that died, they're not being buried in the cemetery.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: Like my family is still getting buried in the cemeteries
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: on one side of my family. The other famili's all
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: been cremated, and so we're not gonna have remains for
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: the next generations. Not everybody's getting buried anymore, you know.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting that we've got all these bones.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: From back then, and then it makes you wonder when
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: you think about that could possibly means the people back
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: then been burned too.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like so I know much to ponder on
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, missus Verbie, thank you so much for
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: being here. I so appreciate you. I love my T
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: shirt and stuff that you sent me. Thank you so much,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: Miss v Burton, You're so sweet. And she says, do
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: the little people wear clothes? I said, what I was wondering,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: That is what I was wearing. So it didn't seem
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: as though they had clothes. But they're so old that
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: that bust that we were looking at said seventeen thousand
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: years ago was when they lived, so there would be
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: no trace of clothing. Probably. Yeah. Okay, well, well this
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: is this has been a pretty fantastic shutting night, Bruce.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly enjoyed this one.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I have to. I wanted to make a couple jokes,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: but I'll wait till the end.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: Just go ahead, make a joke. What's the joke?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: Do you need bond money out? You need serving money?
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: Being a hunter and being out on bonds right now. Okay,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It was my orange escaping the
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: I know I've gotten I've got orange, those orange shirts,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: so like them.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: I like orange. You know, it's a good color. I
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: don't wear it off of those and I just don't want.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want the cops said, you know, tackle me
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: at Walmart. Okay, but uh, the reason I'm gonna get you,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. That's why I want ahead and to
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: crack the joke about it at the beginning of the
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: show tonight. Okay, that's joke. Uh yeah, it's a it's
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a huntress, not a parar le. Okay, not yet
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: at least.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: Uh. But anyways, you're wearing your five hundred square inches
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: of lego orange out in the field.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Gens said, you's got a question, Jessica.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: Would they have been buried at the same time or
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: was that burial ground old with many generations in it?
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're That's what I was just
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: talking with Bruce about because I was thinking they could
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: it have all been at once, but you said they
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: were individual graves. Nice meat, right, yeah.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: O over over many many years.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so over many years. And there's so many
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: of them, Bruce. How many of these graves are I mean,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: how many cemeteries? If they go all the way down
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: the state, I mean from north to south, I mean
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: how many miles of that I've driven through. I drive
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: through Tennessee all the time now from south to north,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: north to south. Say long, that's the longest stint of
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: my drive going to Kentucky. Uh, in pretty good ways.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that over one hundred that over one hundred
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: thousand and one one area in White County. So wow,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: it could be in the millions. Yeah.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this is something that everybody should be looking
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: into now, okay, and uh, maybe not trying to go
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: hunt down these graves and stuff. I don't know. I did,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: like I said, somebody did contact me a while back
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: and invited me to come to see a pygmy grave there.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know where, when, or who that was.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: So I missed out on that one. So if you're
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: watching this, whoever you were, please contact me again and
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: It's not the tent ones. The tent ones are ones. Yeah,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: they're not the real ones. Those are Europe. Yeah, those
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: are early settlers and the farmers. Those are probably late
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds to mid eighteen hundreds.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean when you look them up, this is
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: what you see. These are the examples to give you
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: right here. Yep, so that's not it. Would those be
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: like children's graves, you think, Yeah.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: There's little bitty ones like that would be children's graves.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: The pigmies will be flat rocks. You won't know. That's
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: the reason why the farmers hit so many of them
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: plowing and stuff, because there's no markers. It's just a
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: it's just a square box in the ground, and it's
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: a small square box made of these limestone rocks, you know, slabs.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: With a little bit of blue tint to them, like
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: a blue they say blue. Somebody. For whatever reason, this
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: kept coming up to in my surges. Now, I don't
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: think these things had elongated schools. Did they bruised?
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: No, that was probably Indonesia right there.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe some of the some international pygmies had
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: long school right, that wouldn't make sense, okay, but not
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: these ones. These are the actual schools. Right here, there's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: one of the actual schools of the pigmies Tennessee. Okay,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: next to a human school. Okay. I wonder that's where
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: they got the idea for Keebler elves too. I don't know.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: I like those cookies, does to oh Man? Well, well, gosh,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: I tell you what I learned a lot today. I
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: always learned a lot, and and I'm glad we took
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: a d dive into these pigmies because this is something
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: I've never really taken a deep dive into before. And
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: it's right there in the hardware you live, bruce ye
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: and right with research. Mhm.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: It's this is a strange place, but it's it's it's
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: where I call home, and I love it and I
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: get to I get to stay in the heart of
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: it and do my cryptid research. And I ain't got
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: a drive for days or hours to do it.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: No, it's right in your backyard. Well, hey, next time
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: I come up there and I go to Whitleyville, you're
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go with me. We'll go to find
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: these pigmies. Okay, all right, we're making some planned all right, yep, Okay, Yeah,
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if if it gives you like health issues,
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about this. But I'm still game
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll give you health issues. I'll
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: go to Sparta and talk to some farmers and good,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: I'll get this lined up to where they'll the farmers
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: will let us come in there without the probably won't
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: let us use camera equipment or nothing, but you'll get
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: a first hand view of it.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, that would be great, that would be great. Oh
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I wonder if they have goats. I wonder
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: if the pygmies are have ghosts and stuff. I was
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: I wasn't kidding about the ghost hunning up there, that
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: we did have some little some little people in that
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: cave and Whitley on the SLS camera.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: Well, everybody says, you know, between Woodbury and Sparred A,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: White County, that there's a certain stretch of road there
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: that a lot of little people and ghosts form. So
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: it's a very very good possibility little.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: People in Ghost Farm. Okay, I U yeah, I've always
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: I was wondering that we had to. There was a
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: giant and two little people that came out of that
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: cave while we were in there on the SLS camera. Okay,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: so very well could be the pigmies of Tennessee, right, Okay,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: oh man, Well this is freaking fantastic, man, fantastic stuff,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm gonna add this to the list
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: of things to look out for out in the woods,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: and of course with our Appalachian where will family out
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: there as well. Don't come at me where we'll families.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: Don't do it, okay, please don't, please don't. But we're
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: not trying to suppose yet, Okay, but we're just trying
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of the history of all that,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: especially out of the land between the lakes and the
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: Kentucky stuff. So but yeah, well, Briuce, I'm gonna keep
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: you all posted on some of my investigations I'm going
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: to be doing. I'm going to be taking some time
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: off in the next couple of weeks, not time off
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: in the shows. I'm gonna be here at the shows.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: I got some fantastic guests lined up for the next
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and so we're not missing a single show.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to be out investigating in the field
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: a good bit the next couple of weeks. So if
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: I'm permitted, if they allow me to talk about it,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: I will there okay, but but yeah, stay tuned because
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: we do have a little it sounds like a little
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: person out there not too far from where I live.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: It could be, could be the pigmy because you're in
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: that area.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: It could be we are definitely in that area. Yeah,
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: and so, and there is almost like a portal involved too,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: So we're talking about maybe time traveling interdvenstional. I don't know, Bruce,
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: it's all freaking weird. Okay, it's weird. But anyways, all right, well, Bruce,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here tonight. I just
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: so appreciate it.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. Thank you for having me.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: Chaps great and shows great, and we'll do it again.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: Well you will well. In the meanwhile, tell everybody where
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: they can find you over on YouTube.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 2: Uh, you can find me at Darryl Denton's group Big
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: Believers and other Creatures. You can catch me on the
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: Encrypted Wrangler podcast every Friday night if by Pacific would
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: be seven Central. Or you can catch me on the
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: Crypted Huntress as a moderator and sometimes as a co
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: host or a guest.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: You'll catch me here, oh yeah, more often than not.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: Over here on.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yep, man, I tell you. Okay, Well, this will not
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: be the last time. I promise. Okay, Well, Bruce, please
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: stay safe out there, Bruce, and keep me posting on
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: any kind of weirdness and high strangeness you got going
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: on up there, and uh and I keep you posting
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: on what I got going down here in Georgia. Maybe
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: we'll okay, yeah.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: That works well. You take you be safe, You be
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: safe on those investigations. Everybody, have a good night and
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: a blessed night.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best, Ruth. I want to thank
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: mad Paxima so much, Thank yous for that super secret.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your support, Mad Packs and uh yeah, y'all,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: please stay safe out there, and uh keep your head
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: on a swivel.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: I know we live in really strange times right now,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: but don't don't live in fear about anything, and take
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: life by the reins and have fun. You'll go out
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: and do something that scares the hell out of you
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: at least every once a week or once a year
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: at least. Okay, and uh, other than that, y'all come
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: back and see me. I'll be back on Monday with
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: another fantastic show. Next Saturday night, We've got Mike Smith
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: coming on the show out of the LBL, speaking of
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: the LBL and uh, and he's he has generations of
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: his family that have grown up and lived in the LBL.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about some of his own dog
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: Man reripp Chilian encounters. All that out there will be
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: on next Saturday night. So see, I'll come back and
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: see me. All right, Well, Bruce, thanks again for being here.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: Y'all have a wonderful night, and I'll see y'all on
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: the flip side, all right, Yea, so s S sleep
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: so