Latest / The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast / Sean’s Side with Sean McLaughlin Part 1
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
- 0:03Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today Ben
- 0:09Speaker 2: and I are joined by someone creating a little bit
- 0:14Speaker 2: of drama, especially last week in Paradise.
- 0:17Speaker 3: It is Sean McLaughlin. Welcome Sean.
- 0:21Speaker 4: Hi guys, thanks for having me on again.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Hello, Oh my gosh, so happy to have you.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Before we get into the interview with Sean, I do
- 0:27Speaker 2: want to say that this interview is will be two
- 0:29Speaker 2: parts because he is such a big player in this season,
- 0:34Speaker 2: a bachelor in Paradise, and we have a lot we
- 0:35Speaker 2: want to cover with him. So last episode watching you back, like,
- 0:41Speaker 2: do you think that you made some mistakes?
- 0:46Speaker 3: I'm just jumping right in, right into it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Holy yeah, you guys, I'm like not, I'm not the
- 0:53Speaker 2: best when it comes to justlike small talk. You know.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Well, first off, Hi, Ben, good to talk to you too.
- 0:58Speaker 4: We can we go into it, Sean.
- 1:01Speaker 3: We'll get to the fun stuff later. Let's just like
- 1:03Speaker 3: get the hard stuff over.
- 1:04Speaker 5: With, all right.
- 1:05Speaker 4: It sounds good.
- 1:06Speaker 6: Yeah, watching it back, and it's weird watching yourself on TV, obviously,
- 1:11Speaker 6: but I think watching it back, one thing that was
- 1:14Speaker 6: it was just a confusing night, so watching it back gave.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Me a little bit more clarity.
- 1:18Speaker 6: I didn't really Yeah, I had no idea what Brayden
- 1:22Speaker 6: had said to Rachel for the I don't think I
- 1:24Speaker 6: knew until I watched it back, truly, until I kind
- 1:26Speaker 6: of got some perspective into it. So I thought Rachel
- 1:30Speaker 6: was initially mad at me for talking to Jess that night,
- 1:33Speaker 6: but we had talked previously. I was going, I told
- 1:35Speaker 6: her I was going to do that. So when came
- 1:37Speaker 6: back from that conversation, and for those of you who
- 1:39Speaker 6: don't know, like you get pulled for interviews after stuff
- 1:41Speaker 6: like this happened. So I came back, did an interview.
- 1:43Speaker 6: I come back and she's upset with me, like very
- 1:45Speaker 6: upset with me. So I thought she was mad that
- 1:47Speaker 6: I talked to Jess, And I was like, wait, you
- 1:49Speaker 6: just like you said you were cool with it, now
- 1:50Speaker 6: you're not. I had no idea that Brayden was making
- 1:53Speaker 6: it seem like, oh my god, I'm like, I'm Rachel
- 1:55Speaker 6: so into me, which was never the case.
- 1:57Speaker 4: So I didn't know that's why she was mad. So
- 2:00Speaker 4: it was it was difficult watching it back.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Oh, so what did you think that Brandon did say?
- 2:05Speaker 6: I knew she Rachel had said that, like Branden told
- 2:08Speaker 6: her something, and like in the moment, I really don't
- 2:11Speaker 6: remember what she said.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Braiden had said.
- 2:13Speaker 6: Branden, come to find out, made it seem like, oh
- 2:16Speaker 6: my god, like Sean's not into you, You're so into him,
- 2:18Speaker 6: which was never the case at all. So like I
- 2:21Speaker 6: was confused why he did that and like why I
- 2:23Speaker 6: was shown that way. So it was tough watching it back.
- 2:27Speaker 5: Sean.
- 2:27Speaker 7: It's it's pretty it's pretty funny to have this conversation
- 2:29Speaker 7: with you. Obviously, last time you were on this podcast,
- 2:33Speaker 7: it was kind of the lead up to Paradise, and
- 2:36Speaker 7: you weren't willing to even tell us if you're gonna
- 2:38Speaker 7: be on Paradise or not.
- 2:40Speaker 5: Now we've seen.
- 2:41Speaker 7: Your story play out this, you know, this was a big,
- 2:45Speaker 7: a big part of your storyline so far, was the
- 2:48Speaker 7: controversy in Paradise. It did, from a viewer's perspective, feel
- 2:53Speaker 7: like you had said something like you kind of and
- 2:57Speaker 7: maybe it was Braiden's kind of commentary adding on, but
- 3:00Speaker 7: that you know, Rachel was very into you, and you
- 3:02Speaker 7: had always kind of had your eye on Jess, and
- 3:05Speaker 7: so you had just mentioned that you and Rachel had
- 3:07Speaker 7: had a conversation where you said I was going to
- 3:08Speaker 7: talk to Jess.
- 3:10Speaker 5: What did that conversation look like?
- 3:12Speaker 7: And were you telling Rachel Hammer to talk to Jess
- 3:14Speaker 7: because I'm actually more into her than I am into you.
- 3:18Speaker 6: So to kind of accept the stage, like at this
- 3:21Speaker 6: point in Paradise, you're kind of figuring out like, hey,
- 3:23Speaker 6: are we gonna like figure this out together? Are we
- 3:25Speaker 6: like opened, like like to go on dates? Are we
- 3:27Speaker 6: gonna explore things? It came that was like, I guess
- 3:29Speaker 6: the point where you kind of have to make those decisions.
- 3:32Speaker 6: First off, Rachel's so cool. We were chilled the entire time,
- 3:36Speaker 6: and I think she was in the same boat as me,
- 3:37Speaker 6: like where I think we were probably meant to be
- 3:39Speaker 6: friends and like you don't really want to force anything.
- 3:42Speaker 6: We're hanging out the entire time, but I think we
- 3:44Speaker 6: really were just meant to be friends. The conversation was
- 3:48Speaker 6: was very chill. I was worried because like I don't
- 3:51Speaker 6: I don't really want her to be bad at me,
- 3:53Speaker 6: But she.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Was an entire time. She's like yeah, like, O, we're
- 3:55Speaker 4: in Paradise, explore Like how fun?
- 3:56Speaker 6: Like I'm good, Like I'm having a good time with you,
- 3:58Speaker 6: but we're obviously still open.
- 4:00Speaker 4: I think we were both on the same page up
- 4:02Speaker 4: into that night.
- 4:03Speaker 7: Okay, well, so like at this point, were you guys
- 4:06Speaker 7: like you and Rachel, You're having a good time your friendships.
- 4:09Speaker 7: You were kind of like you didn't know if there's
- 4:10Speaker 7: gonna be a feature. But were you like making out
- 4:13Speaker 7: and like one on one cudd along the couch the
- 4:15Speaker 7: whole time, or were we just seeing those very few
- 4:18Speaker 7: moments on television and most of the time you guys
- 4:20Speaker 7: were not, you know, kicking it together.
- 4:24Speaker 4: I would say we were hanging out.
- 4:25Speaker 6: Like the first week, we were definitely hanging out quite
- 4:28Speaker 6: a bit, like every night, like having long conversations on
- 4:30Speaker 6: those day beds, and you saw a bit of that,
- 4:33Speaker 6: but I think it was more like the second week
- 4:36Speaker 6: was probably when we were growing more apart, and it
- 4:38Speaker 6: was probably just me like where I was like, I
- 4:40Speaker 6: don't know where or I'm at right now. It's a
- 4:41Speaker 6: little bit difficult, and I didn't like want to like
- 4:44Speaker 6: lead Rachel on anyway. Like I think we were just
- 4:46Speaker 6: meant to be friends.
- 4:47Speaker 4: We were both.
- 4:47Speaker 6: Open, so I wasn't I would say, as affectionate that
- 4:51Speaker 6: second week leading up to it.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Did you feel it all possibly guilty because you thought
- 4:57Speaker 2: that Rachel's maybe into like where did Brad didn't come
- 5:00Speaker 2: up with this narrative that Rachel's more into Sean than he.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Is to her.
- 5:05Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't like I don't think Rachel was like,
- 5:08Speaker 6: oh my god, I'm so Intoshan. Like we liked each other,
- 5:10Speaker 6: like we're having fun. But it wasn't like she's all
- 5:12Speaker 6: in on me, because it definitely wasn't the case. So
- 5:14Speaker 6: they kind of give some context into it, and me
- 5:16Speaker 6: and Brad are cool now, we're friends. When you get
- 5:19Speaker 6: it when you're in Paradise, you have time at night
- 5:21Speaker 6: when you're really like not on camera, you really are
- 5:23Speaker 6: on camera because they have hit like cameras up in
- 5:25Speaker 6: the in the rooms. But I remember talking to the
- 5:28Speaker 6: boys like Aarons and Braiden and like we were friends.
- 5:31Speaker 4: We're still all very close.
- 5:32Speaker 6: I was like, man, like I'm just like a in
- 5:35Speaker 6: a pickle right now, Like I'm enjoying time with Rachel,
- 5:37Speaker 6: like we're having fun. It was shocked to see her
- 5:39Speaker 6: on the beach and like she's she's super cool, super chill,
- 5:42Speaker 6: but like I do like have these things about Jess
- 5:45Speaker 6: that I really wanted to explore, and like, no one
- 5:47Speaker 6: was bouncing around, no one was fl flopping, so I
- 5:51Speaker 6: didn't necessarily want to be like the first person to
- 5:53Speaker 6: do it, like, especially like Blake's a cool guy, didn't
- 5:55Speaker 6: want to go and try to to steal his girl
- 5:57Speaker 6: at all. So it's difficult to kind of make those decisions,
- 6:00Speaker 6: especially when no one's flopping at all. And I guess
- 6:03Speaker 6: I was the catalyst to what we watched on Paradise,
- 6:07Speaker 6: where like once I did it, kind of everything had
- 6:10Speaker 6: filtered out from there.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Did you and Rachel only make out once?
- 6:16Speaker 6: I think it was like twice three times. I don't
- 6:17Speaker 6: know that Paradise was a blur. It's not like we
- 6:19Speaker 6: were making out all over the beach. I'll tell you that.
- 6:33Speaker 5: Paradise is an interesting place. I do feel like.
- 6:37Speaker 7: Ashley and I talked about it last week, your timing
- 6:39Speaker 7: from our perspective was pretty terrible.
- 6:41Speaker 5: And here's why.
- 6:44Speaker 4: True.
- 6:47Speaker 7: Well, so here's why we thought that, And this is
- 6:50Speaker 7: where we wanted to get some clarity from you, because
- 6:51Speaker 7: strategically it's a part of Paradise. You want to at
- 6:56Speaker 7: some point talk to Jess. You made that clear, like, Hey,
- 6:58Speaker 7: I came down here excited to meet you, and like
- 7:01Speaker 7: we never had the opportunity and it now seems like
- 7:03Speaker 7: a good time. However, you chose to do it, like
- 7:06Speaker 7: right before roses were passed out, and you kind of
- 7:10Speaker 7: had at that point if none of this happened, you
- 7:12Speaker 7: had secured probably a rose next week from Rachel that
- 7:15Speaker 7: would have got you then to have a week with
- 7:18Speaker 7: Jess and then you obviously will have the roses next.
- 7:20Speaker 5: Week, and so you're there again, Why.
- 7:23Speaker 7: Did you choose to do it at this moment when
- 7:27Speaker 7: like the risk is that, like it does blow up
- 7:29Speaker 7: in your face and you were left alone on the
- 7:31Speaker 7: beach that night.
- 7:33Speaker 6: Yeah, thankfully I had my voice there, but yeah, it
- 7:36Speaker 6: was pretty a lot. Yeah, And that's the thing is
- 7:39Speaker 6: like watching it back, like for me, it's like not
- 7:43Speaker 6: a game, Like some people think this is a game,
- 7:44Speaker 6: and then you like have strategy and like they're definitely
- 7:47Speaker 6: a part of it, Like where if you want to
- 7:48Speaker 6: have strategy, you can go and strategize how I'm going
- 7:50Speaker 6: to navigate this shit.
- 7:52Speaker 4: It was hard, Like it.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Was really difficult, and I didn't want to potentially like
- 7:57Speaker 6: lead Rachel on, like I was there to find someone
- 7:59Speaker 6: and I felt that maybe there was something with Jess,
- 8:02Speaker 6: so like I was going to explore it. The timing
- 8:04Speaker 6: of it obviously was an ideal if my game plan
- 8:06Speaker 6: was to like try to secure Rose and go on,
- 8:08Speaker 6: but that really is never the thing for me. So
- 8:09Speaker 6: that's why you saw me do it right before Rose ceremony.
- 8:12Speaker 6: And I wasn't going to try and get Jess as
- 8:15Speaker 6: Rose at all, Like that was like a big misconception.
- 8:17Speaker 4: I just wanted to see like where she was at.
- 8:19Speaker 5: It was.
- 8:20Speaker 6: It was not like out here, give me your Rose
- 8:22Speaker 6: and like we'll figure out together. It was really just
- 8:23Speaker 6: wanted to see where she was at with everything. And
- 8:26Speaker 6: because I hadn't got a chance to talk to her
- 8:27Speaker 6: too much throughout.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Paradise, where are Jess and Blake at because we we're
- 8:33Speaker 2: a suspect?
- 8:35Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, at this point, I think they were in
- 8:38Speaker 6: the same boat as like a lot of the relationships
- 8:41Speaker 6: in Paradise right now, where I think it's still early.
- 8:44Speaker 6: They're having fun, they're vibing, but I think they're probably
- 8:46Speaker 6: both still open to you know, other people coming down
- 8:50Speaker 6: or exploring and see where things go. I don't think
- 8:51Speaker 6: it's like they're locked in completely. I think they're just
- 8:54Speaker 6: pretty open. It was still somewhat early in Paradise.
- 8:58Speaker 7: Well and this you know, yes, you've got you've explained it,
- 9:02Speaker 7: like you were trying to follow what you were most
- 9:05Speaker 7: interested in. Paradise is a good good spot for you
- 9:09Speaker 7: to potentially, you know, meet Jess, who you are obviously
- 9:12Speaker 7: interested in going into it. The side part of this
- 9:16Speaker 7: was one of the cool storylines from the Steves, and
- 9:18Speaker 7: it happens a lot in Paradise is the Braiden kind
- 9:21Speaker 7: of redemption, and not only the Braiden redemption, but also
- 9:24Speaker 7: you guys as friends and kind of the supporters around
- 9:27Speaker 7: him saying, hey, you know, we're all friends in this beach.
- 9:30Speaker 7: Let's do this well. And it was going really well,
- 9:33Speaker 7: and so you know on the show we kind of
- 9:36Speaker 7: see this blow up and that's kind of where maybe
- 9:39Speaker 7: you know, we have left it at this point in
- 9:42Speaker 7: the storyline. But you said said, hey, you're friends now.
- 9:47Speaker 7: I mean, when when you hear that he was saying
- 9:49Speaker 7: these things about you on the beach, was your first
- 9:52Speaker 7: reaction was like, hey, this guy is who I've always
- 9:54Speaker 7: thought he was, like even back on the Bachelorette. Or
- 9:58Speaker 7: was it confusion because he does seems so great on
- 10:00Speaker 7: the beach, kind of where was your mind at.
- 10:03Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a tough tough night because, like one,
- 10:07Speaker 6: I never wanted to make it seem like Rachel was
- 10:09Speaker 6: more into me than I was to her, Like that
- 10:10Speaker 6: was never the case, and I don't think I did.
- 10:12Speaker 6: Like you guys didn't see it. I didn't say that
- 10:14Speaker 6: on Bachelor in Paradise. We have cameras, ever, we have
- 10:17Speaker 6: a metal wait, and.
- 10:18Speaker 3: So you're right, we don't see it now.
- 10:20Speaker 6: So I was a little shocked that like you would
- 10:23Speaker 6: go because truthfully, like looking back.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Like you probably didn't even need to bring me up
- 10:26Speaker 4: at all.
- 10:27Speaker 6: If you just wanted to pursue Rachel, she'd probably been like, yeah, okay,
- 10:29Speaker 6: like I'll go have fun with you. So it was
- 10:32Speaker 6: almost like he was trying to like cut me down
- 10:34Speaker 6: in a way and then like get the rose from Rachel.
- 10:37Speaker 6: That's how I felt in the moment, like when you're
- 10:39Speaker 6: on the beach, because everything's a little bit more heightened.
- 10:41Speaker 6: So I was like felt really betrayed. I was pissed,
- 10:44Speaker 6: like really frustrated with him because like a day or
- 10:48Speaker 6: two prior, like I was just on the bed like
- 10:49Speaker 6: rubbing his back you wanted to leave. His cat had
- 10:51Speaker 6: broken his heart, so, like you know, from that, like
- 10:53Speaker 6: I was there for him. And then to like come
- 10:55Speaker 6: out that I'm getting yelled at from Rachel because of
- 10:58Speaker 6: something Breaton said. I was like, dude, what the what
- 11:00Speaker 6: the hell was going on? And he and the thing
- 11:02Speaker 6: is too is like you guys didn't see it.
- 11:03Speaker 1: He was.
- 11:03Speaker 6: He felt really bad about it afterwards, and there's nothing
- 11:06Speaker 6: I could do at that point, like it already happened.
- 11:09Speaker 4: Mine and Rachel had already had the argument.
- 11:11Speaker 6: Like I can't harp on Brandon for you know, kind
- 11:13Speaker 6: of misspeaking or miss misinterpreting. I guess the situation in
- 11:17Speaker 6: a way, and he came obviously to you, I'm so sorry,
- 11:19Speaker 6: like I do, like gave me a hug, and I
- 11:21Speaker 6: was like, yeah, man's it's all good. So like we
- 11:23Speaker 6: smooth things over the next day. But like that sucked
- 11:25Speaker 6: because like I thought he was and we are boys.
- 11:27Speaker 6: But in the moment, I was like, I just I
- 11:29Speaker 6: don't know why you put me in a situation like that.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Oh, your forgiveness is really sweet.
- 11:34Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a good guy, I think, maybe like contrary
- 11:39Speaker 6: to popular belief at some points, but Yeah, I'm a
- 11:41Speaker 6: pretty good guy, pretty reasonable.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Okay, So give us the lowdown on what else is
- 11:46Speaker 2: going on in Paradise. So Aaron B and Eliza seemed
- 11:48Speaker 2: to be like the couple, the ideal couple right now.
- 11:51Speaker 3: But we were a little.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Confused last week because she went on the date with
- 11:55Speaker 2: John B and then seemed to have a great time,
- 11:59Speaker 2: but then got back to the beach and was right
- 12:01Speaker 2: back with Aaron. So give us the insight on that relationship.
- 12:05Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Aaron B and Eliza were like there
- 12:09Speaker 6: are a strong cuple on the beach right now, and
- 12:11Speaker 6: it was almost a shock for Eliza to go on
- 12:13Speaker 6: that date with John Bee. Also, where the guys from
- 12:17Speaker 6: Charity season are incredibly close, Like we really do have
- 12:20Speaker 6: a tight knit group.
- 12:21Speaker 4: We're all friends.
- 12:21Speaker 6: So John Mey got putting a difficult spot there coming
- 12:24Speaker 6: down and like, oh, it was a lot of Charity's
- 12:26Speaker 6: guys on Paradise, so all of his boys are coupled
- 12:29Speaker 6: up with people like who is he gonna take? So
- 12:31Speaker 6: he said he had the best conversation with Eliza and
- 12:33Speaker 6: she's an absent sweetheart and she went on the date.
- 12:35Speaker 6: I think for her it was probably like I'm gonna
- 12:38Speaker 6: go on this date. If I'm thinking about Aaron B.
- 12:40Speaker 6: I know, like that's where I'm meant to be, and
- 12:43Speaker 6: I know that like last year on Paradise, I guess
- 12:45Speaker 6: she didn't have like the best go of it, but
- 12:47Speaker 6: she was a sweetheart and I think she just needed
- 12:49Speaker 6: that clarity.
- 12:50Speaker 4: But then came back and was with Aaron Be and
- 12:52Speaker 4: everything was good.
- 12:54Speaker 7: I've Ashley would know how to speak to this, but
- 12:57Speaker 7: I'm curious if it's changed at all. One of the
- 12:59Speaker 7: things it makes that's interesting about Paradise to me are
- 13:04Speaker 7: these situations, you know, the Brain situation with you and
- 13:06Speaker 7: the Aaron b.
- 13:07Speaker 5: Situation with John B.
- 13:11Speaker 7: At night, then once everybody's back, I think you're all roommates,
- 13:16Speaker 7: Like is it just super awkward? Like I mean, are
- 13:18Speaker 7: you guys like pillow talking? Are you guys just mad
- 13:21Speaker 7: at each other? You lay there fuming like what is
- 13:23Speaker 7: the dynamic light?
- 13:25Speaker 4: All right?
- 13:25Speaker 6: So I'm not the best person to speak to that
- 13:28Speaker 6: that night in particular, because like I didn't sleep that night.
- 13:31Speaker 6: I was getting pulled for interviews left and right, like
- 13:33Speaker 6: the whole Brandon and Rachel situation happened. So I literally
- 13:38Speaker 6: got done with interviews. Thing it was like four am.
- 13:40Speaker 6: I was never home in the place. So then I
- 13:42Speaker 6: go back. All the boys are asleep and I couldn't sleep,
- 13:46Speaker 6: so I just kind of wandered the beach a little bit.
- 13:48Speaker 6: I didn't know we had security at night. They almost
- 13:50Speaker 6: kind of came out with flashlights, like.
- 13:52Speaker 5: What are you doing?
- 13:52Speaker 6: When they're speaking Spanish, so I couldn't speak Spanish. I'm
- 13:55Speaker 6: like cast, Like I'm on the cast. It was like
- 13:57Speaker 6: five thirty in the morning, so when you sat there,
- 13:59Speaker 6: I could even have a conversation with the moos, just
- 14:01Speaker 6: hanging out. But I think within Paradise you kind of
- 14:05Speaker 6: realize that, you know what, at least the guys we
- 14:08Speaker 6: didn't take things too seriously, so like when John b
- 14:11Speaker 6: came down and took Eliza, like Aaron, Me and Johnny
- 14:15Speaker 6: were so cool. I think if it was someone from
- 14:17Speaker 6: another season and that we didn't have a relationship with
- 14:20Speaker 6: them prior to going down to Paradise, that might be
- 14:23Speaker 6: a little contentious. But Paradise was mostly Charity's guys, and
- 14:27Speaker 6: then yeah, Will and Blake we're super cool as well,
- 14:29Speaker 6: so we all got along really really well.
- 14:32Speaker 7: Nice.
- 14:33Speaker 2: You'll have to stay tuned for episode two with Sean,
- 14:36Speaker 2: it'll be out momentarily, and in this episode, we're going
- 14:41Speaker 2: to try to get him to crack about who's coming
- 14:44Speaker 2: down the stairs, what guys are at play for this
- 14:47Speaker 2: girl's rose, and whether or not he is a contender
- 14:51Speaker 2: for it.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
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