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- henry: Hey guys, welcome back to the Podicy. This is episode nine. I'm Henry Wilkinson. I'm Andrew Mosler. And today we are doing a review of Nirvana the Band, the show, the movie. It is one of our favorites of the year so far. it's unlike anything that I've ever seen before. And we originally wanted to do the director Matt Johnson's newest movie that. came out called Tony, but it wasn't showing in our area. So we had to pivot and we're taking the opportunity to talk about this movie because we both love it so much. Mike on's letting us down again. Yeah. I But you DM'd him. I DM'd him. Henry's doing the work. Haven't haven't heard anything back. And like I don't know what teenagers were in the social media and I don't know what the process is as far as like Getting films played at your theater like I like it should be pretty easy, honestly. Yeah, but I I don't know. I just I d I doubt that me sending them that is worth a try. Yeah, worth a shot. I mean yeah, I mean with a movie like that, you would think that it would be able to, you know, like generate some you know. Yeah. I mean it's A twenty four. Exactly. Big studio. It's been it's been getting great reviews out of three point eight right now on boxed. Yeah. so yeah, I mean I'm excited to see it. I don't know how I'm gonna see it. I don't either. I hope it comes out. I know. I'm not really sure because we don't really have an option. We've got two micons here. Yeah. I wonder I didn't look b but I was thinking about looking and see if Marcus was showing it. I ooh, I don't know. I don't know. I still follow them on Instagram. I would guess it's probably like somewhat similar. Yeah. But just feels like they Yeah. Do a little more for the fans, I s it seems. but yeah, Nirvana and the band, the show of the movie, yeah, Matt Johnson. kinda like his his career is like tied into this movie. it's like a I mean if you or I was gonna read the or you wanna read the movie description or whatever. Yeah. but essentially it's just like a kind of experimental comedy. they use a a style unlike any other film I've really seen, which is like I mean I've seen the term guerrilla filmmaking used a lot when when I'm looking at, you know, stuff about this movie, which essentially just means it's unscripted. For most of it and they're using real people and it's their real reactions. And I was watching a podcast today about Matt and Jay and their main cameraman Jared. just talking about like literally just going out and getting hours of footage, just like doing random stuff essentially, or like not random stuff, but doing the scenes that they have envisioned kind of. And just kinda letting it take wherever. And that's kinda how like some some of the best parts of the movie is made. Yeah. Yeah. I you sent me that one. And I listened to it and they were talking about how that's like their way of writing the movie kind of is just going out and doing that and as opposed to like looking at all that footage as failure, they view it as like a way to develop their story. Yeah. Like they just like it took them 200 days to film this movie and it took 91 days to film the Odyssey. Like 'cause they just That's the that's all they did was just go out on the streets and film a bunch and then they'd send it to their editors and their editors would be like, What the hell are you guys doing? And then they just keep doing it over and over again. But yeah, it's it's hilarious. I'm excited to get to talk about it more. But first It's been two weeks since we've been on the been on the podcast. I've been craving some movie talk. What what what did you watch in your time time apart from the podcast? Well originally we were we planned on doing I mean next episode you'll kinda see a little bit, but we planned on doing this week's long episode as like a biopic. Mm-hmm. is it biopic or biop I feel like 'cause don't people say it the other way? They're wrong. Okay, they're wrong. All right, sweet. and I was like, Yeah, I'll watch I'll watch a bunch of biopics like on vacation, you know, watching a movie a night. 'Cause I was in Yosemite National Park. And we went to bed at like ten every night and then we got up early to like hike a bunch of days. and also it's just like we would just kind of throw if we were watching something, we'd throw on something more like fun or Kind of what everyone was yeah. I mean it's like five we had five five five guys so I watched Across the Spider-Verse for I don't know my third time maybe third or fourth with my friend Briggs so that was really good and then I watched Pirates of the Caribbean, the first one, which one of my favorite movies. Which was another yeah, just another good it's a good movie to watch on like vacation and just kinda one of those nostalgic movies. Then I watched Well, on the plane ride there I'm trying to remember what I watched. Did I watch? you watched the Bourne movie. Yeah, that's right. I watched Born Identity, the first one. And I tried to get to the second one, kinda all you know, all vacation, but I didn't I just didn't really get to it, which was kinda disappointing because I really liked the first one. just kinda reminded me of like that era of filmmaking and like spy movies in general just it feels kinda you know, grainy and like just feels like a like a born movie and like a Bond movie kinda. So that was good. I thought Matt Damon was really good in that. And I'd never seen him. and I love like spy movies. So kinda one that's been on my list for a while. and then we watched Free Solo, like the documentary or whatever, about Alex Honnold and how he climbs El Cap. which I think kinda goes onto the radar for like a really cool like a a really visually appealing and aesthetic documentary. because I think people are just like just like kinda lost in what he's actually doing, but it's really it's shot really well and yeah, I just think it's a cool documentary. I don't really get to a lot of documentaries a lot. I yeah, I haven't seen it. Which I wanna get to. It's it's like you're like stressed out watching it. Like it's but I mean, we're right there, so we kinda I mean, I had seen it once before, but that was pretty cool to watch. And then on the plane ride back, I watched the B movie. I love Jerry Seinfeld, but it wasn't as funny as I remember. When do you think the l was the last time you watched it? Like a long time ago? Probably ten years ago. Okay. So it's been a w long Yeah. And I mean it was still good. It's yeah, it's a good movie, obviously. And I just think you can just kind of see like Jerry Seinfeld, like his I like just him in the movie basically, like his ideas and kind of how his brain works. Which is cool 'cause I love Jerry Seinfeld. And then I watched Shrek in the plane, which is such a banger. So that was your plane ride back you watched? Yeah, I watched. We had like a Connecting flight in Salt Lake City. So we flew from Fresno to Salt Lake City and watched the B movie and then got on our plane from Salt Lake City to S P and watched Shrek. Nice. That that's a good that's a good plane. Yeah, so I de w it wasn't the direction I was thinking I was gonna be going. That that's how I was last week. Yeah. I what do you what do you been watching? I watched it a lot. Last week I think only had three movies. Uhhuh. And this this week. let's see. This week. Eleven movies. So yeah. In the span of how many days? Like a full week or something? I think yeah, 'cause I think we recorded a week ago. Yeah. Dude, heck yeah. Yeah, it was yeah. Good. What have you been watching? So yeah I saw a couple of your similar to Andrew. We were planning on doing a longer episode on Biopics. and Our theater doesn't release like what they're showing far into the future. Like it's a week by week basis. And it's usually on like Tuesday or Wednesday that they come out with what they're gonna be showing that weekend. And I just kind of assumed they were gonna be showing Tony and that it was all gonna work out. So I'd been watching a ton of biopics, and a lot of rewatches. But I rewatched the social network 'cause that was a movie that I watched like a year and a half ago, kinda when I started on Letterboxd and everything. And I gave it a four stars, but I think the way I rate movies now is a little different than I rated movies then. like It if it was a four star, it wasn't like a very high four star. Like my true feeling about it was probably more like a three and a half. but there are a lot of people that I follow and podcasts that I listen to that literally make the argument for the social network being like Fincher's best movie, being one of the best movies of the century, like the best biopics. I'm like, Okay, well if we're gonna do a biopic thing, I wanna watch it before that episode. And A big thing that people love about it is the script by Aaron Sorkin, which like first time I watched it I wasn't even paying attention to that. And then the score by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. And like this time watching it, just having like those two things in my mind I was like, wow, this is a banger. And I gave it a five stars. Yeah, I I just I really, really loved it. I think it's it is one of the better biopics. Fincher It's it's different from like his crime thriller stuff, but like he brings that like dark and gritty aesthetic to it. and Jesse Eisenberg as a lead actor, really, really good. I don't know how he didn't win best actor. And I don't know how he's not in like more big roles. Can't even remember his name, but it's for the k the King's Speech is like the movie. And that was the that movie won like Best Picture that year too. Yeah, that's right. And from what I heard people say that like they don't hate the movie, but all the awards it won was like the worst thing that could ever happen to it because everyone's like, this is the movie that they picked over the social network and inception and all this stuff and apparently just does not even hold like a flame to any of those movies, but I haven't seen that. But Eisenberg's really good in the movie. Yeah, I feel like that's like the perfect role for him. Yeah. I yeah, in my review I said it it might have been the fastest two hours of my life rewatching this movie. It just it goes really fast. The dialogue is like super heavy and there's a ton of it. And usually the thing for scripts is like every page is a minute of screen time. And the script was like a between a hundred and sixty and a hundred and seventy pages. And it's only two hours because they're just like talking so fast and all the time. And it never feels like there's like a choppy moment. but yeah, Andrew Garfield's really good in it too. It's yeah, it it's a great movie. Moneyball, rewatch that. It's probably the movie I've seen the most times in my life. I don't know how I didn't bring it up when we talked about our rewatchable movies. Cause there was a time when I'm like Between ten and twelve and we'd be going to Little League tournaments and we had like our minivan and with like the screen that pulled down and I'd literally watch it like every single weekend on our way the tournament. I like could actually probably quote the entire movie. And it's the same guy that wrote that script, Aaron Sorkin wrote that script too. And watching that right after a social network, I was like, dang, this guy's really good at writing movies. Yeah. I wonder what else he's written and he just like hasn't done a ton of stuff. Like he did Molly's game and the trial of the sh the Chicago seven or whatever. But like I just want him to get back in that zone. Yeah. another rewatch, The Iron Claw biopic. You haven't seen this, right? No. Very it's it's really frickin' good. it's an A twenty four movie. about this wrestling family and it's like a false masculinity movie where you see like all the dad cares about is wrestling and he like instills it on each and every one of his kids and they just like fall apart basically because that's all that they thought was important and that obviously it it it builds them up but it tears them down just as fast. But Zach Efron's like the lead in it. And I haven't seen like a ton of his stuff, but like I feel like people don't really think of Zach Efron being like a le in a lead role in like a drama movie. Yeah. And he's really good and I can't believe he didn't get nominated for it. it's a very, very sad movie. It's one of the only movies that mate has made me cry that it's the ending of it. That's really good. If you you have brothers, right? Mm-hmm. It's a great movie if you have brothers. I've seen I like know what happens though. You do? Yeah. So But I'm definitely still gonna From the movie or from the family history or like just seeing stuff? From the movie from the movie. Yeah, just like seeing stuff about it. Yeah. Great movie. So going back to what I watched last week. We're on a streak of five five stars in a row for me, which I don't know it's if it it's ever gonna happen. And then we add another five star and we watch Zodiac, which is another Fincher, and apparently it's not technically a biopic. I don't know what specifically classifies as biopic, sure. But I just it's based on a true story. I think it's cause like biopic is more about like a specific character. Yeah. Or like Zodiac, it's about like the other people like trying to solve the case. It's not as much about the killer himself. but yeah, I've been I don't know, my my girlfriend and her dad like true crime stuff and we were just trying to pick a movie to watch. And I'd kind of told Addison like I don't know, I d I just feel like he'd really like this movie. And it was like I wanted to watch one thing, Addison wanted to watch another thing, and Brian wanted to watch another thing. It was just one of those nights where we were never gonna agree on something and then we were just scrolling and we found Zodiac and Rob just like, yeah, let's watch that. So we watched that. Jake Jillenhell's a beast. Robert Downey Jr.'s a beast. Mark Rufflo's a beast. It's all all Marvel people and but they're really they're really good in it. It's Fincher again. Yeah. So what are your six five stars in a row? So six five stars in a row, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Nirvana the Band, The Show, the Movie, The Social Network, Moneyball, Ironclon, Zodiac. Wow. Then I rewatched Coach Carter, which was kind of a childhood favorite of mine, and I was very disappointed. What? Yeah. The What are you talking about? The let's see. Shannon Taylor. The subplot between Kenyon and Kira is terrible. It's so bad. And like what sent like what do you just like how it's written or like how they just everything. It's like they're gonna have this baby and then they might not have the baby and then they're gonna have the baby and then I'm aborting the baby so you can go play college basketball and live your life and I was just like, Okay, that's so stupid to me. And I it's stupid because because what? Like Because I just thought the messaging was terrible. Like everyone gets a happy ending except for the baby. Okay. And I was like, wow, that it ruined it for me. Okay. What what'd you give it? Two and a half. Dude. It's like probably thirty minutes of the movie is Kenyon and Kenyan and Kenya. I haven't seen it in long time. And I'm like, is Channing Tatum in it? Yeah. That's him. And he's hilarious. Like I really like him. I couldn't remember if that was him and like as that character. It's probably like a three or three and a half, but I just remember finishing the movie and I was like, You're pissed. Are you serious? And that's just like something that I feel like as a kid just like goes right over your head because Yeah. It's like a Disney sports movie. You know, it's got like all the triumphant game winners and stuff. And I'm just like, this is sick. But But I mean, overall, I guess, yeah, I enjoyed my time with it. I was I just could not believe that. I'll have to watch it again because that's been a long time. Yeah. That was funny. So that broke the streak. and then I watched Air, which was pretty solid. the not documentary, the biopic on like getting Michael Jordan. I thought it was really cool that like they never showed Michael Jordan's face. Like it they really stayed true to like everything that went into getting him without making it about him, which I thought was interesting. I really like the trio of Damon Affleck and Bateman. I think Bateman is awesome. Like I wish he was in more movies and stuff. have you seen Ozark? No. That's like one of my favorite shows of all time. Yeah. He's a he's just a really good actor. He is. and he can do both like comedy and super intense roles. And yeah, I just think Those three have great chemistry. I was surprised. For s for some reason I thought I had seen more like Ben F like directed movies, but I have never seen one before. But I want to see more of his stuff because there's some cool choices in the movie that I really liked. Yeah. What else does he like what else does he direct? Does he do the town? Yeah. He does the town. And I I've never seen the town and I I really want to see it. Like everyone one of my buddies watched it and gave it a five stars. My mom Yeah. Really loves that movie. and then he did Argo too, which one best picture. thinking about the Quentin Tarantino clit. Yeah, that yeah, that's the one. That's the one. I've got the town on DVD, so do you? Yeah. yeah, I saw that. maybe I'll watch it tonight. And then Gone Baby Gone, which one of my buddies watched and liked too. So I don't know. But there there's some cool stuff in air. yeah. Yeah. I gave it a three and a half. Okay. It's just it's like very safe. Yeah. But like everything that it does, I think it does really well. Like I think in the hands of a different director, like a different cast, it it Who's the other Bigger name in that. Is that Chris Carter? No. Or Chris. Who am I thinking of? Well, I mean Viola Davis is in it and she Chris Messina. Is that that's the only guy you could be thinking of, I feel like. Yeah. He's the agent. And okay. And he he's really good in it too. Yeah, that's that's who I'm thinking of. I just couldn't remember his name. Yeah. but yeah, just Like overall really solid execution there. And then wanted to watch some more Matt Johnson movies. So I watched his directorial debut, The Dirties. Super low budget film. and his first movie, like his style is has stayed the same throughout today, which is really cool. He just he blurs the lines really well between like reality and a movie. Mm. And it's kinda similar to Polytechnique, which is a Denis Villeneuve film, and it's about like a Canadian school shooting. And it's different because like Denise's film is just serious the whole way through. And like this one has some comedic elements in it. So it's not a super fair one to one comparison. But I just kind of thought like, okay, Matt Johnson at the beginning of his career, I think, does this type of film way better than Denis did. And let's see. I think yeah, at the end of my review I said if Tony's a great movie, I'm gonna start a dialogue about Matt Johnson. 'Cause I mean, I just I really like all of his movies. Yeah. Gave that a four star. Watched Raging Bowl, Scorsese biopic with Robert Janeiro. I I just I did not really like it that much. Like really the only positive was like the visuals and the performances. I think it's the main character, you know, being a bad guy, and that's why some people don't like it. And that's not the main reason I don't like it, because like I love Marty Supreme, I love Breaking Bad, I love Nightcrawler. I felt like they didn't give me anything into like his motives for being an A hole. Kind of. Yeah. And like he's this boxer and I like I don't even know if he's like passionate about boxing. Like Yeah. And I thought the boxing sequences were terrible. And I know it's like the eighties and it's probably unfair to judge, but they're just throwing haymakers at each other. And there was zero blocked punches in the entire movie. Have you not seen Rocky? I've seen Rocky and I love Rocky. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying they're that that's like the same style of or maybe not. But it's bad because it's like literally like forty in a row. Yeah. And their hands are just at their sides. Do you not remember Rocky? Did being like that in Rocky? No, but I haven't seen Rocky in a long time. But Rocky has like these cinematic moments. Yeah. Yeah. and then went and saw the Odyssey with my mom. So round three of the Odyssey. So good. and it got the mom stamp of approval. Nice. So she liked it. Yeah, she liked it. Nice. It I wrote in my review too, like every time I saw someone get up and go to the bathroom, I'm like, you're missing the best part of the movie. And then I realized at the end I literally was unconsciously saying that in my head every single time. Yeah. For like the entire three hours of the movie. I'm like, you're gonna miss the best part. Yeah. Like it's just it's so still out of five. Yeah. Easy. Like not even close. and then another Matt Johnson movie, Operation Avalanche. It the premise of it is like so genius for the type of filmmaker he is, because he like is like a mockumentary type filmmaker and the premise is him and his buddies are pretending to be like a documentary crew in NASA to try and find this mole that is like leaking information to the Russians. And so like it just works like so well. and then they end up devising a plan to like make a film of them landing on the moon because like they can't actually land on the moon. So then it's like this big production of them. Yeah. That and it's it's hilarious, but it's also like super intense. And I think it was like my favorite Matt Johnson acting performance because I think it balances the most out of any of his films, like the comedy aspect with like super intense moments. And then I feel like every single one of his movies is like it's funny and you ki you Bob disagrees. Disagreement. Bobby has arrived. Ha ha. I I feel like you'd you never expect like the endings of his movies to like go the lengths that they go because of how like unserious the movies feel sometimes. Yeah. But then like he always goes there and then at the end you're kinda like, crap. Yeah. Like that was really good. And then last night I rewatched Nirvana the band the show the movie again. good dude. So a lot of watches for me. Yeah. That's a g that's a great week. Packed week. Yeah, good week of of watching. Now we'll do some movie news. Kind of lot of stuff that has gone on. And I don't I don't I don't have everything in detail, but what what do you have? What do you got? The main thing for me, I was just kind of reading a decent amount about Coyote vs. Acme. Yeah, you're very excited about it. Which I'm really excited for. So I every time I see a post about it, it has like Andrew Mills or liked this post or something. Yeah. I've been watching a good amount of Looney Tunes. Yeah. Just like the show. I just always always watch the show. Yeah. so I tried to prep a little bit and watch some some of my favorites. but I watched an interview that Rob Rig or a podcast that Rob Riggle does. Rob Riggle is the guy in Step Brothers who is Adam Scott's like right hand man for the Catalina wine mixer. He's in a bunch of other comedies too. He's so good. He's hilarious. But he has a podcast and he has on the guy who is do now doing the voices of like Tweety Bird, Bugs, Borky, Daffy. because the guy who used to do it, Mel Blanc, I think his name is, he did all the voices too. I think like every single character. And he's d passed away now. He's been dead for a long time but this new guy, his first name's Eric, I believe. just kinda cool is to hear him talk about like what like how he became this guy to do the voices and so he kinda told the story about how like two years ago they like make the whole film and then Warner Brothers sh shelves it and then uses it as a tax write off. And they lumped in two other films too, which I didn't know. It was like Scooby Doo was getting like a revamp. Uh-huh. And they shelved that and then one other movie. I can't remember. but basically like they they just used it as a tax right off and like all the fans were pretty upset because they were kind of looking forward to it. And then it kind of started like this fan outrage of like there's like this iconic picture of a guy in a Wiley Coyote. costume outside Warner Brothers Studios and he has a sign that says like release me. yeah yeah yeah and so that's kind of what started or whatever. So then it sat on the the shelf for two years and then Catch Up Studios, I think is the name, picks it up and buys the rights to it. And they did it they did that with another film too. which I can't remember that's I can't remember the n the name of it now but They picked that up and it was a success for them. so they kinda did the same thing and now it's kinda like a cult for me and like people are like, let's go screw over Warner Brothers and make this movie a bunch of money and successful. But I think Yeah, I just think it's cool that anytime like the film community is like gathering around a movie and I don't know how like what whatever the decision was To shelve it, but like I feel like two years ago John Cena was like in his prime kinda like Yeah peacemaker. And like I don't know, I feel like he's just doing really good at that point. Like people are kind of st like starting to respect him more. and the other main lead in it, I can't remember his last name, but Will is his first name. He's like one of the funniest guys on Saturday Night Live. yeah. Yeah. Will Sylvester, is that his name? No. No, that's a that's something my high school. Never mind. Shout out Will. Yeah. but he's really good and I feel like this is like a perfect role for him too. So I'm I'm really excited for that. But yeah, just I mean, there's not really any news about it. just that it's coming out in a week. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, a week, week from tomorrow. My Con. It's gotta be. Dude, they don't have it. I'm gonna pro I'm gonna get a Wiley Coyote costume and protest outside my con, dude. Will Forte. Will Forte, that's right. He's he does voice stuff in the Lego movie too. Yeah, he's great and and on Saturday Night Live, he's like one of the funniest he's just got some great sketches on there. He does voice in Cloudy the Chance and Meatballs and he's also in Twenty Two Jump Street. So he's he's got some Some fun roles. Yeah, he's he's great and I think that like I said, this role is gonna be Like really good for him too. It's got a it's got a three point seven on Letterboxd movie. Kyoto Rosak Me. like the pre-screening stuff? Yeah, or whoever's been able to see it. It's got a three point seven. I saw like I don't know. That's pretty good. I don't know if that was a joke, but the hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes. no, I'm sure it was. Yeah. I'm sure I feel a lot of times they'll do that after Yeah, true. Like eight critics have reviewed it, but still that's still eight critics giving it a positive break. They did the day the earth blew up. Which was a Looney Tunes movie, Catch Up Studios did. Is that is that's like within the decade? Yeah, like recently, right? Twenty twenty four. it's that recent. Yeah. Did you watch that? No, I didn't. But I'm definitely going to. So yeah, they they just kinda I'm sure they just like they're like, well that movie did good enough for us to Yeah, you know, pick this one up. Yeah. Well I'm I'm glad that they picked it up and it's finally getting to yeah getting released. I mean it's something different. Like it's something creative and unique. Sure. Yeah, it's and yeah, apparently Warner Brothers is like notorious for just shelving movies that I don't know, people put a ton of time and effort into. Yeah. That was the river blew up that one too. the X-Men cast was announced for Marvel. Yeah, did you ever yeah, so I have it I have it pulled up now. So everyone new from Spider Man brand new day. Spoiler if you haven't seen it, but you probably already know that Sadie Sink is Gene Gray. she's most known for her role in Stranger Things as Max. She's really, really good. so yeah, I th that was a big Big win for Marvel, I think, just landing her as Gene Gray. Christopher Abbott is Professor Charles Xavier. He is in he isn't in anything that I've seen. But he's in he's in Poor Things. He's in Wolfman. But people people seem to be really excited about that. And think he's a good actor. Samara Weaving as Emma Frost, which she is the star of the Ready or Not movies, which I haven't seen either, but people think that she just looks a lot like her character. Yeah. and I know that people are very excited about that too. Kit Connor as Scott Summers or Cyclops. I think this is really good casting. He's in Warfare from last year. And he's like he's really good in it. Yeah. And Warfare's kind of an interesting movie where a lot of the acting like isn't through dialogue. That's a great movie. Yeah. he's in Rocket Man too. He was he was a young Elton John. really? Yeah. So I haven't I haven't seen that, but you Yeah. I didn't I didn't even know that. Yeah. That's crazy. and then the The I think the biggest announcement from they announced this at D twenty three, which is like Disney's big press thing, was Indian Averetti being cast as Rogue. she's most known for her role in Obsession, which was the movie that came out this year that really broke the box office. She's getting some buzz for Best Actress or Best Supporting. I don't know what they're campaigning her for, but Yeah, I know people I think are kind of mixed on her casting just as far as her fitting the character. Yeah. But I think in general, like people are exciting that they landed her just 'cause she's she's proved that she's a really good actress. and then Maya Boyda Storm. I she was like the only cast member who I wasn't familiar with at all. but apparently she's really big on Broadway, so Which so is Sadie Sink, but yeah, so and then Adam Driver. Adam Driver. Mr. Sinister. Yeah, which That's gonna be sick. Yeah. I'm I feel like he he could do that real, really, really well. That's what I'm most excited for. I think he's gonna do great. My hope is that Indy and Sadie Sink aren't stuck just doing X Men for like ten years of their career though. 'Cause I think they're kind of at a point where like they're younger and I was excited I love Stranger Things and I was excited for to see Sadie in movies like outside of Stranger Things. because I just think she's a really talented actress. And I think it's they're just they're young and they're at a time in their career where they can take on like exciting roles and I hope that this doesn't prevent them from doing so. Andy Navaretti, it was recently reported that she turned down the main actress role in Heat 2. Yeah, I saw that too. Which I was very upset about. Yeah. I really wanted to see her in that. but yeah, my hope is that they they aren't just stuck doing that stuff. I mean, we've seen certain actors and actresses be able to carve out a career outside of being in like a big franchise. So we'll see. But yeah, I think overall they did a pretty good job with the casting. I think so too. And I think people in general are pretty excited to see the X Men get woven into the Marvel universe. I think people have kind of been looking for that for a while. But yeah. What what else do you have? what else was I gonna say? well I just saw like a couple of people I follow on or not on Letterboxd, but just some reviews of the dog stars. Mm-hmm. And looks pretty positive. Really? Yeah. Like I saw I mean I read a couple of like mixed reviews and then a couple more that were just like that seemed like it was pro or like saying like this is really like really Scott does what kinda it's like one of his higher end movies or like he does good in this movie. Like 'cause he's he's pretty hit or miss. Yeah. So I think people were the main message I got from a lot of reviews was that this is a a hit and that Jacob Alordy does good. That's good. as his character. and I think it's just an interesting concept of a movie. Yeah. but I was just reading A little bit about it and like how kinda like what he did what he does different and stuff. Like what Ruth B Scott does different in this movie compared to other ones. and he said he just took it's it seemed like this one was like slower or not slower but like it took more time. Like he was kind of focusing a little more on like what specific like specific people were being casted and then like what what he was gonna use them for, like in the movie. So yeah, I just think off of that, like that's enough for me to watch it, obviously. and I I think the trailer looked r looked really cool. And yeah, I think Jacob Alordi is at an interesting point in his career too. Where he can do a lot of different stuff. And I think doing something like this is pretty pretty standard. Like a it's not like a crazy, you know, way out there type of movie. Yeah. Josh Brolin's in it too. I Josh Brolin. Yeah. I'm Trying to think of who Elordi has worked with, but like last year he was in Frankenstein with Gilmar del Del Toro. And I'd probably say Ridley Scott's a little bit b bigger of a director. So it's probably his like biggest opportunity as far as working with a filmmaker in his career. So yeah, I guess yeah, I am hoping it's one of Ridley's hits. Yeah. I'm like that's next week too. Yeah, the tw yeah, twenty eighth. So I'm like torn on how I feel about the trailer. Yeah. But I'm still excited to go see it. Like how you feel about the trailer itself or like what the trailer is the trailer itself. Like just and I I'm not a big trailer guy in general. Yeah. I feel like they reveal way too much about movies these days. Yeah. but yeah, I don't know. I feel like yeah, the trailer wasn't getting me super excited. But I'm super excited to go see a Ridley Scott movie in theaters. Yeah. With the cast that it has. So Yeah. So next week Dog Stars. What are you gonna see first? I don't know. Yeah. My head goes down. What it Dog Stars and Coyote? That's what I'm gonna do, I think. Like dog stars first, you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, probably. I just feel like the Looney Tunes movie there like can't be I feel like it can't disappoint. Yeah. Like it no matter what happens in the movie, like it's just gonna be like exactly what you think. I feel like I feel like it's like Yeah, I that's what I hope at least. I just think the premise is so funny, like I've never seen like animation and like live action mix. Never watched sp Space Jam. I I yeah. Okay, outside of space. Probably it. So yeah, I'm just interested by that aspect. Did you ever watch the Looney Tunes like the show at all? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you know like what the Acme implication is. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that's hilarious. Yeah. It's yeah, it it should I'm hoping it's I mean just the fact that it already is getting pretty positive reviews is a good sign. Yeah. 'Cause I feel like that is a That type of movie is something that could go south like really fast. So yeah, I'm glad that it's been positive so far. Aven or not Avengers. Marvel announced all the movies to watch before Doomsday. The first X-Men. X-Men two. Captain America, the first Avenger, and then the three Avengers movies, Loki. Which I actually started watching that this week. You did? Yeah. Have you seen you hadn't seen and you hadn't seen it before? Hadn't seen it before. Nice. Yeah, it's pretty solid. Yeah. You how many episodes do you get through? Just literally just one actually. Nice. That's all I watched. It took me like like I it was like two da I watched it in two days. Have you seen the part where he jumps out of the plane? No. It's like a five second Do you know what D B Cooper is? Mm-hmm. He's like this g it's like a real guy who escaped from the FBI. Yeah. And like he parachute he like held a a stewardess hostage went up in the plane, still like stole a bunch of money, went up in the plane, and parachuted out. They don't they never found him. Wait, I ha I've seen this clip. And and then it's like a c loc in the show it's like I can't remember who he's talking to, but he's like he like loses a bet with Thor or something. Yeah. And he has to be D V Cooper and then so that's like the explanation. I've okay. I I I've seen the the clip. I just love it. but yeah, I don't know. I was see you see you watch the first episode. I watched the first episode. I told Addison like after the first twenty minutes of like I'm gonna watch it, but I just I don't like some of the visuals and but then the last like half an hour of the episode was really, really good. I'm trying to remember what even happens like in the first like what what's going on in the first episode. like in the T V A Yeah. He just gets he just gets in the T V A. Okay. And then I guess kinda spoiler alert for Loki if you haven't seen it. he gets on the TVA and then he goes through the trial or whatever and they find him guilty and then they're holding him in this room and then Owen Wilson, I can't remember his character name. something cool. Yeah, but he is he like showed him how destructive he's been basically, like how he basically killed his mom. and then it ends with basically him telling Loki that like there's this variant and it's you and like we could use your help kind of. And then it's like this guy in just like a black hood, like drops a lamp or whatever and starts some people from the T V A on fire. Yeah. And that's how it ended. So I thought the last like half an hour was really, really good. But Yeah, I think it's just like yeah, it is very Crucial to like what's going on in the MCU. Yeah. in in general though, like I since I've started watching movies, I have a hard time with shows. Me too. Like I just notice so many like visual things where I'm like, that just does not look good, or the writing is not good here, or the acting isn't good here. Which is kind of unfortunate, but also I just like movies. I think that's just like a show thing too. Yeah. But it like the premise is really really cool. And there are parts where it looks really good too. it is one of the better Marvel shows, but I think it is a little overhyped. Yeah. And I think I feel like it's probably like a super good show if you're a huge Marvel head. Probably. Which I just am not. But I'm only one episode in and it's good. And like the score is really really good. That's one thing I noticed from the first episode. And I know it kind of has like a famous score from the show. if you if you get done with Loki and you're like underwhelmed. Moon Knight? Is that what you're gonna say? Moon Knight will blow your mind, dude. Okay. Yeah. So just in in Marvel show sense. Yeah. And in just show sense, I guess. But yeah, have you seen the first two X Men movies? Never. Okay. So I wanna I wanna watch those. they're good. But so I think Endgame is like the end of phase three and then phase four stuff they wants you to watch is a ton of stuff. gosh. Shang-Chi. So I've never seen Son. I'm excited to watch that. No Way Home. Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness. I saw you had that raid like last. I haven't I haven't seen it since I I watched it in theaters. And I remember thinking like this is peak. Yo, actually. But I My taste has changed since then? Yeah. Where do you compare it to the first one? I don't know because I didn't watch the first one until last summer. So I watched the second one before the first one. okay. And Well, what'd you think of the first one? I thought it was good. Okay. It's not I think I gave it like a three. And what do you have? Or did you not rank didn't even didn't yeah, it didn't rate or rank or anything. Okay. But I remember I went with Addison and her dad, and I was like the only one that really liked her. I was like, yo, that was peak. And I think it actually is my least favorite Marvel movie. So I I'll have to rewatch it though before doomsday 'cause I remember nothing about it. Or actually, you know what? Maybe just don't it, maybe just be happy with it. Just ride the high of the theater experience. Don't ruin it for yourself. and then Wakanda Forever. Okay. You saw that? No, I haven't seen I haven't seen it. Deadpool Wolverine, haven't seen. Sounds good too. Brave New World, haven't seen, probably won't. not good. And then Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, which I saw from last year. I don't know why they would say you need to watch Brave New World. Or what was the one you said right before that? Deadpool and Wolverine. Okay, that that makes sense. What was the one before that? Wakanda, forever. I guess just like character wise you might need maybe need to watch it, but like I don't I can't really think of any other implication on like the main storyline. Yeah. but I thought it was cool that Marvel at least Yeah, that is they posted that I'm glad they kept it at least somewhat limited. Yeah, 'cause they could definitely throw on like ten times more movies. Yeah. And they probably do throw in more phase four stuff than is actually needed. Definitely. but yeah, at some point I'll go on a Marvel marathon probably. Yeah. And hit some of these. Check some of these off, especially the ones I haven't seen. But yeah. do you have anything else? I got a c I got a couple more things. No, I thought I was gonna say s one more thing I didn't write down. I can't remember it now. Alright, I'll just keep going. Yeah. Wildwood official trailer came out. That's my most anticipated besides doing three of the rest of the year. It looks so peak to me. and they announced that their runtime is gonna be two hours and twenty minutes. That is insane. I'm like I'm so happy that it's gonna be that long. Yeah. It's gonna be the longest stop motion animated movie ever by like a long shot. Dude, that's crazy. So, yeah, last week me and Addison did Fantastic Mr. Fox. That's a stop motion movie. That movie's an hour and twenty five minutes or something like that. and it's just cause like it takes an insane amount of time to get all those shots. Yeah. Two hours and twenty minutes. And I know it's gonna be peak because I've heard a bunch of people talking about how terrible the work conditions are working for the movie. And that's exactly that's exactly what happened for the Spider-Verse movies. Yeah. The exact same crazy amounts of words. Yes. Like, and I'm sorry to any of the people that work on that movie, but I think it's gonna be insane. They've been working on it for like like eight years or something like that. That's insane. Like just the con I can't even fathom like yeah taking that much time working on one thing. Well I was watching a a YouTube video about how they do some of the shots in Coraline. Yeah. I have you seen Coraline? Yeah. I have not seen it. Okay. I really want to see it. I saw it a long time ago and I don't it was like before I was kind of into movies or whatever. Yeah. I just remember thinking it was really cool and there's like specific shots where you're like Literally watching the movie and you're like, Okay, how did they do that with stop motion? Yeah. And then I was watching like literally one of the scenes I remember thinking about. Yeah. Where like it's like a shower turning on. Mm-hmm. And it's like, Bro, how do you even Yeah? And it's like they show they have like legit pieces of every part of the shower. Yeah. Like the water coming out. So it's like you know, whatever. I mean obviously that's how you do it with stop motion, but it's just like Insane amounts of attention to detail. Yeah. So yeah, I'm excited for that too. Sweet. Yeah, I'm very, very excited for that. And I've been on the Wildwood train since Your d your day one. Yeah. I don't know when I saw s it was probably like in the winter. That's crazy how old this look I I am on their like first newsletter or something. So I yeah. I just I'm I'm really hoping that there is That Eau Claire's gotta be showing that. I might DM them today and just be like, hey. DM your boy. Let's get on. Let's get on this wild. Yeah, you might have to get on it early. Yeah. But yeah, so I'm s all that was awesome. and like the song that they did was like Wake Me Up by Avici or whatever. They just like slowed it down and had a girl singing it. that was a good song for the trailer. Nice. Yeah. I'm super excited for it. my most anticipated movie, Dune Three, came out with another teaser and some of the shots from it are just insane. it is it's mogging Doomsday so hard. Yeah, it really is. It's like yeah, I'm I there is a chance that I that I like that movie more than the Odyssey. What? Yeah, like it's It's and they they announce that this is not confirmed, but a two twenty runtime for Dune three, which would be by far the shortest of the trilogy, which is interesting. 'Cause I almost kind of thought it was gonna be very long. Are they gonna do more after this? I don't not Denis, at least. There's so much there's so much. I was gonna say it's like I kinda hope they don't. Yeah. But we'll see. Is the samurai guy? Is that Jason Momoa? No. He's in Dune Two. Or he's no. Yeah, separate character. Separate character. I have no idea who that character is. I'm sure sick. I'm sure the book people know who he is, but that just made me want to watch it so bad. Henry sent me like a like a l like a clo like a cut a picture of which what Was the teaser probably. Yeah. It was from Or was that the teaser? It was from it was like a yeah. And teaser some badass guy is a samurai in the sand with all his samurai buddies. And then a million people in front of him. This is yeah, I'm gonna watch that. I yeah. Linus Sangren cinematographer, shooting on film. The first two look great with Greg Frazier. And he's probably like the best digital cinematographer. Like the film just gives it like this texture that just looks so cool. And I'm super excited for it. Doomsday new trailer though. That's what I was gonna say. yeah, that's right. That was between that actually that made me excited for Doomsday. Yeah. I did not like the first trailer. I don't like the first trailer either. I thought the second trailer was a lot better. It it just felt more Yeah, they're giving more background to Doom. Yeah. And like it just it felt Like there were more I felt more stakes in the second trailer, like, crap, this is I think it's still no matter what, honestly, I think it's gonna be underwhelming because I think like But I don't think it's gonna be for me. You know? What do you mean? 'Cause I'm gonna ignore Yeah, 'cause I'm gonna have low expectations. I yeah, I just mean like in terms of them having like Jonathan Majors derail kind of situation. Yeah. I just think it's gonna be like I don't know. I hope it's I'm I'm going into it with pretty low expectations. Yeah. And honestly just hoping for like a comic book, accurate Doom. Yeah. But which you you know that stuff a lot better than I do. I don't really know I don't really know too much about Doom in the comics. But and I just hope I f I can understand what the heck is the Tony Stark. Yeah. I just don't know. And I'm like actually getting mad because I don't know. Did you see like David Harbour came out and said a line from Doomsday? Yeah. Thanks, bro. Yeah, the the line is like you are Tony Stark or something like that. And everyone's like, Bro's never gonna get to work with Marvel ever again. Exactly, dude. Dude, yeah. But I have a theory. Here we go. Because it happens with Marvel all the time where people accidentally say stuff. Mm-hmm. I feel like Marvel has to like, Hey, you're gonna slip this into your interview. So peop like they're trying to They're like intentionally spilling stuff. you think that's the truth and they're saying that. Yeah. But I'm saying Marvel did like Tom Holland does it all the time. Yeah, yeah. Who was the one that was it Mark Ruffalo? Where he's like everyone dies in this Yeah, and then he's with like whatever Don Juli. Yeah. And he's like, dude. Yeah. Like even his reaction just seemed kinda staged in that. It definitely all is. Like so I don't know. I'm just I'm think maybe that was David Harbour. 'Cause like even just him saying that got a ton of buzz. Yeah, I just can't imagine like what yeah. I don't know. I'm I can't even talk about it, bro. I'm getting mad. Yeah. But so Doomsday at the second trailer was better though. Yeah. I this week I'm gonna watch The Dunes. yes. I literally had to I literally put it on my calendar. Yes. Cause like, dude, I get so bad with like I'm terrible. Like, I'm gonna watch this this week. And then I end up watching the freaking B movie. It's like, all right, well Well yeah, I have B movies at bangers. I literally have over a thousand movies I'm gonna watch. I need to get better at doing the watch list. And I watched six movies in a row that were rewatches this past week. But they're so yeah, I mean that's and then include the Odyssey in there too that I went back to go see in theater. So se I think seven of my eleven I watched were and I d like I didn't have any of Matt Johnson's movies on my watch list. So I literally checked nothing off my watch list this week. Except for Raging Bowl, I think. That might have been the only one. Yeah. When you log a movie, does it automatically take it off? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I put those on my calendar and then Dude, let's go. I think tonight I'm maybe watch the town. okay. Just cause we were talking about it. Yeah. I was thinking on the way here, I was like, what do I want to watch tonight? Yeah. I honestly legit might watch we're gonna start talking about the run of the band the show of the movie, and I'm gonna wanna watch it again for the second night in a row. Yeah. Yeah, I want to 'cause it's so twice this week. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well I have two more things that I'll write it off quick and then we can get into it. So the D the whatever twenty three thing for Disney, they announced twenty Twenty five new projects. Guess how many of them are new? As a not continuation. Five. Four. So I saw like Incredibles three. Yeah, they announced twenty five projects for like the next two or three years or whatever. I didn't think it was that much. And four of are like new ideas, new movies, new concepts. Just doesn't surprise me at all. They're just Really milk and how about Moana too live action. Yeah. Like it's just it's yeah. Stupid. Yeah. That is dumb. And then there is some speculation. They didn't say anything about Avatar Four, which they were Disney. We're thinking yeah, it's it is. I don't I yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they are on Disney. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. There's speculation about that, but apparently the whenever they had it before they like didn't announce fire and ash on it. 'Cause some people are like, they're not gonna do the fourth one anymore, but I don't know. There's speculation on I would have they'll do it. I don't know if it'll be Cameron though. Real I thought he was doing all five. He originally said that, but he's been saying stuff recently how he might I'd be totally fine if he did these three. Yeah, I would too. I kinda I kinda hope he doesn't do I would r I wanna see him do Different things. Yeah, four was supposed to be like Look. Er. Yeah, Loak. 'Cause he like started narrating in the third movie. Okay. I but him and Kiri or what's what I was gonna let her name? Yeah, I think so. I was gonna say I th I thought I saw something after Fire Nash. It's gonna shift perspectives to one of those two. Yeah. The link between great mother or whatever they call it. Yeah. and then The Odyssey just past Deadpool and Wolverine is the highest grossing R rated movie of all time. Bang. W It's R? Yeah. The Odyssey? Yeah. Yeah, I think I saw it was R because apparently you get like two F words, I think. Is there more than two? Yeah. I I can't think of what the one is Matt Damon like We spent ten years on this effing beach and that's the only one that's the only one I can remember. When they're eating the cattle? No, when they are like when they're about to set sail back for Ithka. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. But yeah. All right, let's get into Nirvana. Dude. Huh? Here's my question. Okay. Right off the bat. Would would it have been weird if I showed up with two fedoras? No, it wouldn't have been weird. Dang it, dude. I would have worn the ripped jeans and the my gosh, I was gonna go to Walmart and get that would have been goaded. But I was like, no, that's weird. I might just be Matt for Halloween this year. That I was legit thinking this is. Ripped jeans. Dude, I was like, this would be such a sick like duo costume. Like Alright, dude, let's do that. Let's do a Halloween episode and let's be Matt and J Matt and J. Yes. Yes. Yes. Dude, and he wears the even the OG jeans. He wears them he has them on in the dirties too. really? Yeah, he doesn't have them on in Operation Avalanche because it's like it's from like the sixties or whatever. But And he not in Blackberry either, but I thought it was so funny in the dirties. Like I'm like wearing He's just yeah. I mean 'cause he's Matt Johnson and everything. but yeah. Okay. I'll pull up the letterbox thing so that people get a little bit of a vibe. It's I think it's yeah, it's one of my favorite movies of like the decade. Me too. That's really good. Here's all it says. One last plan. When their plan to book a show at the Rivoli goes horribly wrong, Matt and Jay accidentally traveled back to two thousand eight. That's all that it says. So it's Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll starring as themselves in this movie. It's so perfect, dude. And yeah, it's a mockumentary gorilla type film where they're the basically the only two actors. And then they're just interacting with the people around them. But spoiler free, what do you got? What do you you give it a five? Five. Yeah. Easy five. Yep. yeah, I just think it's like one of the most like groundbreaking movies. Yeah. At least that I've ever seen. And just the way that like Matt talks about like how they shot it is just like so cool because the one podcast I sent you was with a guy who was like an aspiring filmmaker. and talking about like he feels like he needs this or needs this. Yeah. And this movie literally just proves all of that wrong. Yeah. You literally don't need like they go out with handheld cameras. Yep. And shoot, like probably I mean, one of the best comedies of all time. Like it just it's so funny. It is. That's that's not a hyperbolic statement. No, like seriously. Yeah. And it reminds me not not because of the qual I mean, I just felt like I watched this movie I can't remember the name of the movie. 'Cause it's like not that good. It's Eric Andre and he does this movie about like a road trip. Like Tiffany Haddish is in it and I'll find it. But the like kinda like the main draw to the movie is like the pranks in the movie are real. Okay. So like they're actually pranking these people. Yep. Like And I people have just that idea is what I'm saying. It's nowhere near that. Yeah. It's terri it's not a good movie. People have been like too like have you heard of the Jackass movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're those are some of my favorite movies. Really? I've never seen any of them. So like they kind of are comparing it to that, but it's like it's different. Yeah, it's way different. Yeah. But I get I get the comparison though. Yeah, definitely similar in in that sense. Like doing stuff kinda off the cuff and like Like not thinking about stuff too much. And that's kind of what Matt talks about. Even like when he talks about his directing style, like when he's doing Blackberry or doing these other movies, s some of the actors on the set will be like, Okay, where's my Did you see that part? No, I found the movie that you were talking about. What is it called? Bad Trip. Bad Trip, yeah. It's kinda three point three on the Really? Okay. I just remember it being like kind of a cool idea how they're actually pranking people and then they like inter or they like integrate that within the script. Yeah. But what I was saying is like a lot of the actors will ask like Matt, like, where's my second camera? Where's my you know, back angle? Where's this? And he goes, he's like, I don't know. Yeah. Like he doesn't even know. He's not worried about like that type of stuff. Yep. Which I think is just like a crazy cool idea. and I also just think like It's almost like a I I don't know, it's like a stroke a lot of it is like just a a crazy stroke of luck. Like the stuff they shot in two thousand eight. Yeah. They're not like planning on doing this movie over twenty years. Like this movie's made over twenty years. And like there's a shot in the movie where Jay from two thousand eight goes, does that guy look like me? And that has nothing to like in two thousand eight they're not thinking, yeah, in twenty years this is gonna be in our movie. Yeah. It it was probably just some other random guy who like maybe looked like Jay a little bit. Yeah. And the way they edit the movie is like so perfect too. Like they pay in the camera and it's Matt and Jay and they've switched clothes. And it's just like it's so good. And this yeah, I don't I just love like I also like how they're just like genuinely just like ripping off so many movies like clearly. Like not in like that way, but like they're just like towing the line on so many different things. It's just perfect. Like the literally like they just put two ends in Nirvana. Yeah. And like you know call themselves Nirvana Nirvana. I don't know if is that in the movie or is that no it must be in the show. Where they're like talking about the name. They call the Rivley and they're like Nirvana? Like like Nirvana and they go Yep. And like hang up the phone like they're gonna play, like they're gonna go. That must be in the show. Yeah. But yeah, I just think it's very experimental and like inspiring. It's like a something that hasn't like never been done. Like not even close. Yeah. It's what do you think? It's weather free thoughts. You get what what do you got it at? I got it at five. The first time I watched it was on a plane earlier this summer. and I gave it a four and a half. But I th I talked about it on one of our first podcast episodes. It was a late flight. Uh-huh. And My girlfriend's trying to like sleep on my shoulder or whatever, and I'm like belly laughing while I'm watching the movie. And she kept getting annoyed with me. I'm like, I'm sorry. It's just and I had no I had no expectations going into the movie. That's perfect. I just I knew that there was literally one guy on Letterboxd that saw it at a film festival and gave it a five stars. And I'm like, sweet. And like I wanna kind of be up to date on like new releases and it wasn't out on anything at that time. And then I saw that like Delta Airlines had it on their thing. I'm like, okay, that's what I'm watching. Yeah. I'm not looking at anything before I watch it. Good idea. And yeah. It was just like one of the most creative and ambitious films that I've ever seen. And like you can tell that it's just these two friends. It's like their passion project that they've always wanted to do. And yeah, it and I knew nothing about the type of films Matt Johnson makes and it just blurs the lines between reality and like film so well that like I'm watching it for the first time, like, what like okay, wait, is that real or is that part of the movie? Like what like what is going on? Yeah. And he said, like I've seen stuff now, he said like that's literally his goal yeah as like a filmmaker is to just be like get people thinking about reality or movies. And yeah, it it is taking stuff right out of other movies. and they told a line on legal stuff that is just like hilarious. Yeah, it's it's it's like it's so complex but it's so simple at the same time. Like it's the story goes all over the place, but really it's just these two friends and a guy with a camera going on the streets of Toronto, like just filming them being maniacs and it's yeah. But like they're they have to be some really good actors to be able to pull this stuff off because they've said Like they're filming, they think they're like doing a rehearsal and then they get a reaction out of someone. Yeah. And then they give each other like a nod of like okay, we're gonna like go. Yeah. We're gonna this is go time now. but yeah. Five stars. Let's get into spoilers now. Yeah. The opening opens up with two thousand eight Matt and Jay's on the piano and he literally says, Good evening, folks. What you're about to see is something you've never seen before. And like the first time I watched that I didn't even think about anything. But now the last two times I re watch it, I'm like, he's spitting facts right there. You're about to be sent to the moon. Yeah, I've literally I've never seen anything like that movie. it's a really good just first scene. Yeah. And it's like you can kinda tell it's like found footage at the beginning or 'cause it's you can tell it's from like two thousand eight or whatever. But at first I'm kinda like, is this just how the film is shot? Or not? And then you realize that Yeah, it's them from seven 'cause then it says like seventeen years later or whatever, or something like that. Yeah. So just just a really good Really good opening scene. and then it pans the them in present day doing like their first Matt idea on the whiteboard and my gosh. That that was when I knew like this movie's gonna be hilarious. Jumps over the couch. Yeah. Jumps over the couch. Seventh inning skydive. Stretch. Skydive. Yeah. Skydive. And Yeah, Matt just Step one. He just goes on rants and so good. If it's it's if you build it they will come. Yeah. It's if you build it they will come. And like they're not building anything. We don't have a show at the Ripley. Yeah, just right a right away I'm hooked. It's hilarious. Yeah. and it's like it's hilarious, but it also is kind of a nod to like the sense of delusion that you kinda have to have to like do something big like that. like he says that a lot of his movies are allegories for how he feels about filmmaking and he's like, Yeah, I mean you have to be You have to be crazy to like make a movie. Like everything that goes into it. and so like he's representing it like through those characters, through specifically through Matt, just all these plans that he has. And yeah. As extreme as they might sound, like that's sometimes is how it is when you're approaching something to that magnitude. Well, that's what I was gonna say is in the podcast I watched, he's talking about Matt's character and like having all these plans and having a new plan every and in the show it's like, you know, new plan, new plan, new plan. That's he's he's saying what you just said, like that's how you have to be as a filmmaker, like l literally just trying anything and if it fails, you know, thirty times it's trying one more time. Like that's kinda so that's kind of like What Matt Matt's character represents a little bit, which I think is cool. but also at the same time is just like not like it just feels like it's like one of those movies where It's it just takes itself like not serious at all. Yeah. Obviously, which is like what makes it so good. And that's why like I've appreciated it more on rewatch, is cause the first time I watch it, I just am laughing at everything and thinking everything's hilarious 'cause it is. Yeah. But then it's like the second and my third time through. I'm like And after Literally all week I've just been listening to Matt Johnson talk about movies. Like he's so smart. Yeah. And he's just a nerd and he just rambles forever. Yeah. Like I told Andrew this yesterday, but he was doing like this rapid fire interview where they're like is yeah, just like, you know, five word answer and like the first question this girl asks, he just talks for like three and a half minutes and he's like, Sorry, sorry, sorry, that wasn't rapid. That wasn't rapid or whatever. And it like for the Tony movie and he was with Dominic Sessa. He's like, he should just answer all the questions now. But yeah, he's he's just he's super, super smart. but yeah, re watching it and kind of hearing how Matt like approaches all of his films, I am like able to pick up on like the underlying stuff more. which I think in that sense is different from like some of the comparisons that has been made to it, like the the jackass films. and then what else? Like Bull Rat, like that that's just like straight comedy, you know? And like the Borat's a good movie like for what it is too. But like I think this is just hitting on something a little bit more deeper than I think the movies that it's comparing itself to. And I think Matt's just so smart to where like he wants to add those elements into it. And he kind of talks about that too, like as the story progresses. They They had a a point in the movie where they had a cut of it of like an hour and it originally was not gonna be like time travel anything. It was gonna be like this road trip movie. And they had like an hour cut of it and he's like, this just feels like a show kind of and like it's funny, but he's like, I want it to feel like a movie and like make it just feel like huge and cinematic and then They're like, like we can do this callback to like our 2008 selves and do this time travel thing. And then once they got that, it was just off to the races from there. but like that that like made it, I think, separate itself from like the show. Yeah. and made it feel more grand and more like a movie. and yeah, like you were talking about the editing for having like their two thousand eight selves and their present day selves. Like they're not like in frame at the same time, but like they have to like pan the camera. And he's like, yeah, it was he's like, my editors are awesome. Because that just had to have been a nightmare for them to like set everything up and get everything perfect. they said they had to like recreate their old apartment or whatever when they're they they go back in time and they try and get back to present day and realize they need the orbit, so they gotta go to their apartment. And Matt kind of talked about the process of that and just how appreciative he is of his editors because they had like people come out to him like, What like you you made your young selves look so good? Like what did you use? 'Cause like people didn't think that they were just using old footage. Like they thought they were like editing their faces. Yeah. but yeah, which i the the editing is really, really cool. I hope I hope it gets some sort of recognition 'cause yeah, they're they're they pan the camera back and forth between young Matt and Jay and old Matt and Jay. It's just a perfect cut. Yeah, and it never feels like you know, they're not actually in the space with them. Yeah. See I can't remember when exactly this is in the movie. I think this is when Matt is showing Jay how to use like the time machine. And the time machine is a exactly beat for beat ripoff of Back to the Future. I wrote that it was the most well executed nine eleven joke in a movie I've ever I've ever seen. Just the look from Jay. Yes. my gosh. We could go back to September eleventh. Yeah, it's just like and I think he says like sure or like something like that. Like he just shrugs it off. yeah. I don't know. I can't think of any other times in movies where there I'm sure there are where there's a nine eleven joke, but like my gosh, that's so perfect. It was just it was hilarious. So funny. That was one of those times on a plane where I'm just belly laughing. Their first interaction at the convenience store with that worker. my god. What does the guy say? Drywall compound? Yeah. Yeah. Drywall compound. It's like, yeah, it's over there. Yeah. And they had to think if you cut through live wire, you're gonna get electrocuted. He's like, No, it's fabric. Yeah. And then he's like from the store worker, my maybe my favorite part of the movie. Yeah. He goes Okay, I can't do the accent, but he goes, I'm a libertarian too. You can he's like you can do whatever you want, but you might have consequences. Yeah, that tries to like dab him up and he's like, No, but he doesn't dab him up. That that is that was like the first interaction when I first watched it where I'm like, there's n like that guy's not an actor. Like this is a real conversation that's happening. And they they already have like the parachutes underneath their jackets or whatever, which is just hilarious. Yeah, they're t trying to get the the pliers or whatever to cut through the just like the them actually asking the guy if it'll cut through pliers is like my favorite part too. Like obviously it'll cut through like you can tell. They're just trying to get some good content, which is so like it's so Like the idea behind it is so one to one of the show. Like when they do the like the original show is like a w they do it as a web series. So they do it as like, you know, two people are filming them essentially and they put it up by themselves. Like they have no like production or back in. Yeah. And the movie just feels the exact same like f literally like three or four people go out with handheld cameras. Yep. And it's literally just Matt and Jay. They go to the CN Tower and like the next I think that's like the next scene. Yeah, that's right away. And they go And they get into they legit get into the CN Tower with the Pliers and they make it Parachutes under the They literally make it seem like the pliers is like, they got the Pliers in. And then you look at Matt and Jay, they both just have parachutes and like nobody mentions that at all. Yeah, and then when he No one looks at him when Yeah, he first goes through and then he the the like sensor goes off and he comes back, he goes, He's feeling right. He goes, yeah, I got I got my pliers. He said like I got my clippers or something like that. And then he's like the security guy's like, what is it for? And he goes, just cutting holes in my jeans and stuff and then the security guy pages the supervisor or whatever and is like Yeah, I got this guy with a pair of pliers down here and they're like, Yeah, he just says it's for cutting his jeans or something like that. And yeah, they let they let him throw. Yeah. Let him through. He go the security guard goes, We just have to ask Yeah, we just have to ask. Like it's like it's somebody needs like it's a pacemaker or something. And my gosh, that that is just I just can't believe they actually get in. And then yeah, they get and They said like they were not expecting to get in. Yeah. They and the guy on the the camera, they're like, yeah, you no filming past this point. And Jared, the guy who's like they credit as like it yeah. Like he's been working with him forever. He turns the camera around in the thing to send it through, like the security thing. Yeah. And they credit that as like the the greatest like part because if he doesn't turn it around he says no filming. Yeah. And he goes, okay. And then Matt and Jay both heard that. Yeah. And they're like, whatever, we'll just go up. We didn't get the shot. Like they're both thinking that shot it's done. Yeah. Like they're both thinking it's over because they had to turn the camera off. And but Jared sets it down, like twists it around, sets it backwards so it's facing Matt and J and then they do the whole thing. Or maybe they do yeah, they do the whole thing. And then they're walking back, like thinking they didn't get it. Mm-hmm. And then Jared starts like s he's like looking at the thing and like starts smiling and and they're like, No way. Like, well, you got it? What? That that like sh I don't know. That shot feels like it was planned, but it's just like that's just like the whole point of the movie is like you can't get that type of stuff. Yeah. I think the the really cool thing with how they shoot it too is so they usually have I think they said they usually have like two you know, two cameras available for each scene or something like that. And some people are like, Well, you know, if you want to feel like found footage or authentic, like why would you do that? Like why not just stick to the one camera? 'Cause like when they so they go on the CN tower and they jump off and they you know, they they land and then it starts this is well This is another thing. With how loose the writing is for this movie, it's incredible how many callbacks they have from like the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Like the lightning striking at nine three, like that being such a big thing. Yeah. Him saying orbits is lightning in a bottle. What else? Matt saying it's time to play. It's the gun. my god. Them referencing that again. yeah. What else? the song the song that that Jay is playing at the concert? Yeah. Is a real song? Yeah. Well like they him playing the notes when they're back at their apartment and then him playing that when he's this big famous guy or whatever. Like Matt puts it into his head. Yeah. They're just like they're fulfilling like and they talk about yeah, we had no idea what the script was gonna be. Like they just find a way to fulfill these things from the beginning of the movie. later in the story, which I I think is so awesome. It's real song Jay, it's like one of his actual songs. Yeah. Yeah. I think I some podcast it was like his s sister or someone like sings it or something like that. But I think he wrote it or helped with production or something like that. I think I think someone they knew someone that shot the video. I don't know if it was Jared or something, but Okay. Music like they're 'cause I one of the podcasts is talking about that song. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so they I think back I think I was gonna say I think the same guy who shot that shot Joji's Okay. Yeah, they were talking about that newer music. We might have listened to the same Probably same thing. Yeah. But yeah, back back to the cameras. So after they land and the lightning strikes and then they get rained on, they get back to their apartment or whatever. It's like that's one of the times where They're not like getting followed. It's like they already have a camera in the room or whatever. But it's like when they get there, it's like the the camera's starting on the like starting down and then it like pans up or whatever. so I and they do that for like every scene where they change cameras. And I just think that's a cool little detail to have. And Matt and Jay were like, Yeah, like we didn't tell Jared to do that, like he just did that and it just added to the vibe that we were going for. Also, yeah. Also one of my favorite details in the whole movie. They come back in when it's raining and Matt has an umbrella. Yeah, the little umbrella in the shot before there's no umbrella. Yeah. And then Matt has it and Jay's soaking wet. Yeah. That's my fit news. And they were talking about that. Matt said, Yeah, I don't he's like, I w it felt so much smaller. Like it looks he's like a, you know, it looks like a small umbrella in the movie, but he's like It was the tiniest umbrella I've ever seen. yeah, just like Jay's soak and you can tell you can tell Jay is like starting to get sick of Matt. Yeah, which is like the point. Yeah. and then this is when he's trying to come up with another plan and Jay's standing at the stairs and he just looks pissed up. He's like, Okay, I know you we've been working all day. Like now it's time to play your favorite game. holes like this I don't know what like airsoft gun or whatever it is. Start shooting him with yeah just start shooting him and then he he goes to bed. Good night, dude. Yep. but and that's what gets referenced later in the movie which is hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. That part of the movie is insane. That yeah they and they they said that like When they got the going back in time thing, like that that was when they struck gold because apparently that was when they knew that Jay was gonna kill someone. So funny. And that just took me so off guard. Well and dude not on dude, I'd the thing I love probably most about the movie is like Literally what like Matt is trying to obvious what you just said is like he's trying to basically confuse people or make people think about it. Yeah. It's like one of those movies where legit the more you think about it, one, the more you want to watch it again. Yeah. And two, the more you just like like it. Like and the more you know about it, the more you like it too. Like they go Drake's Yeah, Drake's friends gets shot. Yeah. His in the Kendrick beef. Yeah. And they They're like, let's go. They immediately book it to get this news. And you can see Matt in the legit news shot of the lady going like reporting live outside of and matt's behind one of the news cameras going like like looking at the camera like it's it like he's like gonna be directing the camera. Did you hear how they got in there? They got stopped way outside. And they're like They said we're an independent news. cast or something. Where's your press stuff? Yeah, they're like, we're we're independent. Yeah. And then they just let him through. So funny. And yeah, he's like Yeah, I have Jay's running away from the scene of the Yeah, he's literally like he's probably behind the yellow tape or something. Yeah, probably. But yeah, Matt's like yeah. I have extensive discussions with my lawyer before we do these things because it's they're very heavily towing the line of That is so funny. And he said there's a lot of like personal property laws that allows them to be able to do this, but they have to get the shot. Otherwise, if they don't get the shot, then cause the personal property is like their film or whatever. and he said his motto is forgiveness over permission. So he just he's like, you know, we go and we shoot on these places and we're not You know, we're just trying to make a good movie and we're not trying to wreck anything or And he's like, So we're just with the personal property laws, we're hoping that we can get through on that end and then we're just hoping that if we get caught that the people are like fine with it. Yeah. It is it's it's so it's so insane. He's Matt's like, Yeah, I I love my lawyer. But he's like their lawyer is basically always like, Yeah, you know, you Just go get the shot and you're good basically. But yeah, that that part is hilarious. But back to like the plot of the movie, I guess. Matt goes out in the R V and one thing about well, pr one of the coolest things about the movie is Jay does the score. Yeah. And it is the score's really good. Incredible score. Like it's like it's obviously it's Yeah, paying homage and also just drawing heavily from Back to the Future. But like it feels like that type of score. It feels very like Back to the Future on purpose. But it also like Jay is very like it feels like him doing like he's got his own touch to it, obviously. And just like Matt dumping the orbits on the The yeah, the time machine creation capacitor. Yep. Yeah. That was another thing too. Them like all their references to Back to the Future. He's like, Yeah, there's rules where you can only use a certain amount or something. He's like, We literally went up to like the exact maximum amount of stuff and and like you can hear like three seconds of the score when they're about to go do something and he's like he's like Yeah, that was the most yeah, that was exactly the most we could do. So good. Yeah. When they when gosh. It's so hard to talk about this movie 'cause it's like every single thing. Every single scene is just great. I betcha I have already said hilarious like fifty times. But when and see it's like I don't want to keep going forward and back. No, do it. But it's just so hard. So w one of the funniest scenes is once they have gone back in time already, mm hmm, and then Matt is trying to come up with a plan to get back to twenty twenty five and he flips the whiteboard down from like the R V. Yeah. I just I'm like, Of course they have a whiteboard in this R V that that he can just like flip down and he's like, All right, new plan and Yeah, the f that was another belly laugh moment for me. And Jay's just like, Are you kidding me? Like another stupid plan. Yeah. When Jay gets when Jay starts driving the RB and Matt wakes up in the RB. Yeah. That is so funny too. what is he? I think I have it written down in here somewhere. What's going on? I wrote it down somewhere near. it's Jay's like, you know how and Matt's like, You know how what? You know how when you know how when what? Like that part is so funny. And he's like standing there, his like legs are like so spread. He's like I don't know, I can't I can't he's just being ho I can't like he's just being so funny. He's got his freaking ripped jeans and his fedora. my gosh. They said that was really hard to sh too because moving in they're moving and then they're trying to get the lighting right with the window and these like they don't want they don't want it to look perfect but like when they first started shooting it they just had all this natural light coming from the windows and you couldn't even see Matt or Jay. And I can't remember how they worked around that. But then yeah they're literally like speeding in this R V on the streets of Toronto and tr Kind of get the shot. man. It's then it cut dude the cut from 2025 to 2008 in the R V is like so perfect. Yeah. And also just like an just cool like filmmaking like there's nothing in the there's no difference between the twenty twenty five Toronto and the 2008 Toronto. Yeah in the scenes that aren't found footage. Mm-hmm. They literally just pretend that they're in two thousand years. Yeah. Like the goth people walk by and they're like, goths. That's a real goth. Real goths. And that's just like they're just like twenty twenty-five people too. and Jared talks about like split or like snap zooming when like someone with airpods would walk by. He would just like snap zoom on Matt or on Jay. Yeah, like anytime there's any sort of implication of twenty twenty five. He like has to quick. Yeah. yeah, so they when they go back in I feel like the narrative gets really strong after they go back in time because then it like is really it starts as Matt's perspective. Uh-huh. And or what? Okay, wait. So they go they no no no. That's when they go well, that's that's they try and go back to twenty twenty five. It's Jay right away. Yeah. In two thousand eight. Yeah. Because he's like, Let's go see Yeah, they go to the movie. They go see the hangover. And the way that Matt finds out it's two thousand eight is probably the best way you can find out. They're in the hangover and one of the jokes in the hangover is just like uses a word that would not fly today. And everyone in the theater starts laughing and you can just Yeah and then it like zooms Matt's like look around like and Jay had already left at that point. Yeah. he's in the R V Matt's facial expressions are the best. And then they get in the RV and Jay's like, I can explain this. And then he starts whatever saying something and Matt's like we're in two thousand and eight. Okay. Yes. And then they they try and devise this plan and then tha that that's when they realize they have to go back to the apartment. And yeah, then they get to the apartment and you're kinda thinking like, all right, they're gonna get these orbits and then head out. Well, of course the box of orbits, there's no orbits in there, and then two thousand eight Matt and Jay are storming in. And this is one of the funnier things for me is when they're in the closet. And Matt just keeps yelling about creamed corn. Yeah. And 'cause it like starts with creamed corn and then it says, you know, I don't know, it's like five o'clock and then like two thirty AM. He's like, creamed corn. That part is good. But then this was like when one when Jay I think realizes like how good of a friend Matt is. and apparently like Matt's line that is kind of famous from the movie or what what people is like h have t taken away as the emotional core of it. Let's see. Where did I I wrote it somewhere. The the truth is if you got a best friend you won't even notice getting older. And the first time I watched that, that really worked for me. But then Matt Johnson said that like he thought that was the most cliche and like corny line ever. He's like, he didn't want it in the movie, thought it was stupid. And then but Jared is like zoomed in on Jay's face there, and he's like, Jay's facial expression for that whole scene was just so perfect that they had to keep it in there. Yeah. And then that has like been one of the biggest takeaways from the movie and he said he's just so glad it worked out that way and that that's what people are taking from it because like that that's exactly the sentiment that he feels as Ever since the show started basically. like he still feels like he's his young self making the show or whatever. but yeah, and then I mean it's then it takes a whole nother turn where Jay starts confessing to Matt like what what he was gonna do. He was gonna go play the open mic in Ottawa and Matt changes the whiteboard and they end up getting back into twenty twenty five. man, that's good. Even just the part of him like falling forward in the R V is hilarious. Yeah. And this is where it starts in Matt's perspective. huh. And th this is like what I really liked about the structure of it. is you you don't you don't know what happens to Jay. Right. Matt gets into their apartment. There's a drum set there. And he thinks Jay's messing with them. And you find out that Matt's in a Jay McCarroll cover band and has a Jay McCarroll tattoo. And they're trying to get to a Jay McCroll concert. Is the is the Jennifer Lopez guy before or after that? Like the homeless cra kinda crazy guy. Do you remember what I'm talking about? Yeah. Is it because I feel like that's when Matt's walking around? I think it's before. I think it's Yeah, it's in Jays on the billboard and the guy's like Jennifer Lopez. Matt's like Yeah huh. Yeah. So that's gotta be before. Yeah, I think it is before. But yeah, yeah. But yeah, so that they go to the show. Yeah, they go to the show, which is just hilarious. And then he tries to talk to Jay and Jay's like, I don't, you know, we need friends back in the day. Like, you have to know. Yeah. And first time watching it, I was like, something got messed up here. Like I thought maybe that wasn't actually the Jay that had been doing everything with Matt, you know? I thought, you know, I I don't know how it works, but like just Jay's just a star now. And that's like the Jay McCarroll that had been a star for seventeen years now or whatever. but then then you see Jay's perspective and you like the montage of him just being famous. I bet crap. Him just being famous like in all the ads and stuff. And the music video is hilarious. Yeah, but then then it's like you start to see like Jay realizing that he has like sacrificed his friendship for fame at this point. Yeah. And it like starts with that podcast that he's on where they ask him like who's the one person you call or whatever. Which is the podcast that he's on. The Rosenmo. or something like that. Did you know that before or no? Just apparently it's like a famous Canadian podcast though. Which is cool. Like they just like yeah let him come on whatever and yeah. just cool detail. But like when he asked that question like who's your best friend? And then it quickly pans to like Jay's memories with Matt. I th I thought I thought that was just like really good writing and really well done. I think yeah, I think like the writing and the acting just goes like so like under the radar. Yeah. Just because like the idea of the movie like is so good. Like their acting is really good. Really good. And I think yeah, I mean obviously the writing's really good too. I don't think that goes as far under the radar, but Yeah. Yeah, and then you see Matt at the show when Jay's performing That song's a banger. I've actually been listening to it. Dude, every the soundtrack is really good on the intro to the show and the movie. That song is so good. Yeah. And the the last scene, the song in the last scene is such a banger too. They they said that. Did you hear that that What was it called? Waters of March or something? That they got that song from like a Seinfeld documentary or something. Really? Yeah. Like it was it was played at the end of the documentary. And they did a ton of trial and error with it as far as the last the song they wanted for the closing scene and they just thought that's perfect. I remember them talking about the Seinfeld dock. Yeah. And them both liking it and saying not not specifically that they wanted to do to do comedy. Yeah. But they wanted to like be as passionate about something as Jerry was about comedy. Yeah. I need to watch that documentary. Yeah. Yeah, the sa the soundtrack is is really good. But yeah, I've been I The song that Jay sing at the concert. Like it actually is a banger. Yeah. But I think it's interesting how like when Jay goes on the tour bus or whatever and like it kind of seems like he's pr like not actually himself, but like the Jay that got famous or whatever, like in whatever timeline he got famous in. Yeah. Like he is either just like a douche to like his crewmates or something, or he's just like super isolated. Yeah, yeah. 'Cause he's trying to like interact with them and they're just like yeah. Like we What is he he like asked them if they want to play? Like a I don't even know what it was. Like a N sixty four or something like that. I don't even know what it was. They're like, Yeah, like if you have one, we can probably plug it in or something like that. And he's just like, All right. Like he's finally excited to be famous. But yeah, he must have just been this super either isolated guy or he's just like a douche to everyone 'cause when he's just trying to like approach them, they're super weird about it. and this is the call back to the gun and I did not even realize until the second time I watched it that like he like tests the gun out like before, like right when he takes it off the wall. Like to see if it's loaded or something. And then he's like, perfect. Like it's not gonna shoot a bullet. Like he like does like a little test to see. I don't know if he like actually fires it. And I don't I don't know anything about guns either. But he like did something that like confirmed him, okay, when I pull the trigger, it's not gonna shoot a bullet. Uh-huh. Like takes off the wall, he turns around, his like back is to them. He does something. I don't know if he like pulls the trigger or if he Or if he thinks he's putting the the safety on or something like that, but he goes, Perfect. He turns around and goes, I don't even know what he says. Do we wanna he say do we wanna play a game or something? Or I don't know. I don't know what he says, but he turns around. Some great line. And then just shoot shoots the guy in the head. shit. Which is my gosh. That's that's one of the funniest parts of the movie, which is Dark but my gosh. So wait, does he run out of the R V? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Okay, yeah. I'm just trying to remember. Like this. Well yeah. The yeah, whatever thing there in the tour bus. Yeah, let's let's see what what else do I have? Yeah. gosh. So then he finds Matt. And this is where some of Matt's funniest moments come in for me. He does the Obamna yell and my gosh, bro. Just so good. And then he does the This is sounding like very safe, non swearing rap from the eighties. And and I'm up there with the mic talking about the alphabet, and then they start doing it. But then this is when Jay realizes like, this is like fun, like just messing around being idiots. and then this is where Matt breaks the fourth wall and goes, If you're watching this, like this is a copyright nightmare. So good. I can't I can't even remember what. Cause is that when they're trying to do back to the future? Yeah, they're talking about Back to the Future. And Matt starts singing. Yeah, they start humming it. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah, I don't know. And then the the last Power just a all of it unraveling to Matt eventually finding out the truth and well f first I mean just them walking around Toronto with this cable that's Just attached to like the sky. And they're just like walking around like it's nothing. And then like somehow they weave in this plot point that Jay is a murderer and people aren't supposed to recognize him. And yeah. And like you can tell, like someone walks by Jay that like just has nothing to do with the movie. And Jay's like, I just look like him. Like, I'm not actually him. And the person has no idea what he's talking about. He's just like like don't worry, I'm not actually him, I just look like him. I get it all the time. And the person's like, Okay And Matt, Well, like the l yeah, the last part, but also like Matt skydiving off the tower again and then landing on the like the public transport like thing. And then or no, maybe that's but after, but asking the guy, can you watch my wire? Can you just make sure he's plugged in? Like thirty minutes. Yeah, like thirty minutes, that part is so good. And then when he's He's with that girl when he's trying to connect the cable 'cause it it comes off and then Jay drives away because the cops recognize him. Uh-huh. And he has the girl, he's like, Can you help me? And she's like laughing. He's like, you think this is funny? 'Cause this is pretty life or death for me or something and she's just dying laughing. And you can tell he's like trying not to laugh too in the moment. Yeah. my gosh. But Then it it leads to the ending, which is like pretty bleak at first when you just see the hat in the road. And like I think that shot is just really cool. Yeah. But then what is the ending ending? Is it just them back in the apartment? Well, so they do like the white like The whiteboard in their apart in their old apartment says don't play Yeah Rivley. Yep. Or don't something, right? Yeah. And then like originally it says play the Rivley. And then Matt is trying to prove a point, changes it to don't play the Rivley because he thinks that Jay isn't gonna get famous, so then he gets famous. And then Jay erases Yeah. Like he realizes that Okay. But also the ending ending Matt is in the closet again. the very end of the movie, like it cuts to him and it plays like some like eerie, suspenseful music and it zooms in on the closet and Matt's in the closet. Wait, what? Is that not on the Where where you where have you been watching it? I watched it wait, like an a post credit scene? Kinda, yeah. I haven't wa I haven't watched through the credits. I don't even know if I've seen this I don't know if it's post credit or maybe I just wa 'cause I because originally I watched it on the plane. Wait, wait, wait. When when when Jay's changed on the whiteboard in two thousand eight? No, it's like the very end of the movie. Like the last scene. 'Cause it like Matt talks about like Matt outside like Matt literally says like this scene has been added or whatever. Okay. What did you watch it on? Can't disclose that. I can neither confirm nor deny where I watched. let me just see if it comes up. It's gotta Maybe I'm just So Jay or Jay is a racing Yeah, back in two thousand eight. Yeah. Yep. Dude. is that not on the thing? No. Well it might be, but it says post credits there. I just looked up I know post credits. But I don't know man. So like Matt 'cause I there's a video of Matt at some press thing talking about the movie and he's like this gets added and it kind of flips the movie on its head. Yeah, it does, bro. And like just basically teasing another movie. Yeah. Wow. Which would be so funny. Yeah, they just they can just keep making them. Dude, for real. I just love too the other thing I was gonna mention at the start is they just rip off the Marty Supreme poster and say dream bigger like that in itself is just like hilarious. Yeah. They I know that I know that they've been thinking about Doing another they've been wanting to do another season of the show. that'd be sweet. And they kind of like they want to have the same feel to it, but they just they want to actually be able to have it be distributed and stuff. And they're like with the success of the movie and now our show actually being distributed on Hulu and Disney now, they say that they think it's looking pretty good to get another season of that, but they're like We both want to do other stuff. Like Jay apparently is working on some score for a movie. And Matt just did Tony and he has like he already has two other movies that he's working on already. Yeah, so I don't know. But it is it's the Odyssey is my favorite of the year, but I think this might be like the most rewatchable movie of the year. I was gonna say I think it's honestly closer than Yeah. It's like pretty close. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just love this movie so much and it's the Odyssey is still number one, but this is like right there. I mean, but like they're both in their own ways like types of films that I just haven't seen. Yeah. Which is really cool. Definitely. And I'm glad 'cause you know, n Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, independent film. Matt has like in general his first three movies people really enjoyed. Blackberry was like his first time he has admitted like where he's actually worked with like other actors and stuff. but he's like the success that that movie had allowed them to be able to make this sort of passion project that they've always wanted to make. Yeah. and yeah, now he did the biopic with Tony and which his approach to that movie has seemed really, really cool. Like he didn't really know anything about him before. They just they had the script for it. And then he saw himself in Anthony Bourdain and then he had a conversation with Dominic Sessa about it. and they both just really related to it. but yeah, it sounds like his his next two movies I'm still really excited to see Tony, but it sounds like his next two movies are a little bit more on par with like stuff that he's very passionate about. Like one of is like some card game or something that he loves. I can't even I can't even remember what it's called, but he's like, Yeah, I'm super excited for this. What was the other one? I think the I think the card game is called like matches or something. Let me see if I think Letterbox one of at least listed on there. Do you know when it's supposed to come out? I don't. no, it's called Magic. Magic the Gathering. okay. It doesn't have a release date or anything on there. All it has listed is he's the director and a couple of writers. Cool. Yeah, I've heard of the game, but And then he has this other movie. I don't even know if this is the one that he has talked about. Kill Hitler. A time travel period action movie set in nineteen thirty-nine which follows an agent trying to kill Hitler. Dude, please let that be. There's another one that had like an actor. yeah. Journalism 101. A vice editor allegedly recruits drug mules for an international cocaine trafficking operation, some of it tied to activity out of the media's offices. And then it has listed three cast members. This guy is, but the one that stuck out was Finn Wolfard, who's sure, Mike from Stranger Things. but yeah, so he's working, he's working on a lot of stuff, but they have hinted at getting the another episode or another season of the show going now that they have distribution for it. but also like they're excited to work on more movies and stuff too. So I hope to see a lot more of Matt Johnson. I've l I've seen all of his movies on it. And I just I love hearing him talk about movies too. But yeah, and and he's he's also very excited about the Just like the state that movies are in right now. which we kinda talked about in our twenty nineteen episode. Yeah, I hope it gets put up put up for something. I hope so too. That'd be really cool. Yeah. I think like a spot I think editing. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. For sure. I don't know. I I don't I feel like it could maybe I mean 'cause best original screenplay. Yeah, and I feel like maybe best picture too. I mean, ten movies get nominated for best picture. I I just I could totally see like it getting known. Yeah, I could too. Like I just feel like But I'm trying to I'm trying to think of best picture. But like it it's gotten a ton of buzz. Like And especially now that he's done Tony too, like people are now going back to that's true. but like I'm trying to think of best picture, like Odysseil for sure. Obsession. Obsession, Dune, Project Hell Mary. I don't think I don't think disclosure day. Spider Man. No. No. It's not gonna get a don't I don't think it'll get a best picture. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Big movies. There's gonna be like Fjord won the best movie at the film festival, so that'll probably be a shoe in for best picture. Yeah. I could see like prime time getting a best picture. But like I d I just feel like there's not a ton of candidates right now where I could see Nirvana sneaking in there, which would be awesome. I just wanted to be up for something. That would be that'd be really cool. Yeah. but yeah, I don't know. Nirvana, the band the show, the movie, it's on Disney and Hulu. Please go watch it. Easy five out of five. Yeah. It's it's tremendous. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. And like It's a show, but you don't have to know anything about the show going into it. Yeah I feel like it's accessible to everyone too. Yeah. Anything else? No. All right, guys. thanks for joining us for episode nine of the Podicy, our Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie review. Next episode, because we originally were gonna do biopic stuff with the Tony movie coming out. we're just gonna quick talk biopics, do a draft. yeah. Thanks for watching, guys. See ya.