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Mimi Faust Tells All: Stevie J Drama, Joseline & More · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: we talk all the time. And I think I was like,
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  Speaker 2: We did it that thank you for having me?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it funny?
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: I had this podcast for three years?
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  Speaker 2: Three years? Three years. Okay, I'm gonna wait my turn.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Me me. It's so funny because you listen, we're really
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  Speaker 1: friends and it's not like we haven't spoken it three years.
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  Speaker 1: We talk all the time. But it's so funny because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, she should come my podcast because I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching all the girls. I said, oh, oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I much just see how long?
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  Speaker 1: But here we are, Here we are, and that all
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  Speaker 1: that matters. Stunning beauty that you are. You seem to
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  Speaker 1: be in a very happy, calm play so like, but
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  Speaker 1: you know you know how to pop off.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody knows how to pop no.
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  Speaker 1: Bitch, No one cusses like you, motherfucker. Fuck you, bitch.
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  Speaker 1: I got time for that whole shit bit, you fighting
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  Speaker 1: ears and shit. But no. The thing is you have
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  Speaker 1: this calming spirit. So the first thing I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you is like, how are you doing today today?
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  Speaker 2: I am fantastic And I'm not just saying that because
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  Speaker 2: I'm on your podcast. Like spiritually, I'm good. Mentally, I'm good. Physically,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, emotionally I'm good. So and I'm checked to
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  Speaker 2: have checked all the boxes and I'm just good overall
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  Speaker 2: all around. And to me, that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Now it is, and I want the audience to know.
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  Speaker 1: It radiates even in person. I'm pretty sure it's going
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  Speaker 1: to radiate on cameras. The watching is. It could be
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  Speaker 1: the aur, it could be your new skin, Caroline, Honey.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big part of why I'm just yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so excited, like this
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  Speaker 1: So talk to me about this, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So let me just tell you where this whole thing came.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was just irritating. And I'm a product whore.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I have every anything you can
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  Speaker 2: you can think of, I got it. I want to
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  Speaker 2: try it. Well, let me try this, Let me try that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try it girl. So, and I've tried so
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  Speaker 2: many things, and a friend of mine said, you keep
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  Speaker 2: trying all this stuff. Why don't you do your own thing?
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  Speaker 2: And I love skincare, I love you know, and so
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  Speaker 2: I said, okay, And that's where the idea came from
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  Speaker 2: and started. And then I just started doing the research
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  Speaker 2: and right now I have just three products.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what all the three products? Girl? Because I got
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  Speaker 1: the exclusive stuff that she got just for me. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we got face wash.
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  Speaker 2: Face wash, okay, and we have toner Toner.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a toner boy. Good. I love a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people don't understand toner after you like moisturiz and exfoliate.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. Okay. So that's two out of the three.
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  Speaker 1: And the third one.
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  Speaker 2: Bostr Riiser, which is the shit. Yes, yes, that's going
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  Speaker 2: And my products are natural, I mean, alo rosewater, cucumber,
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  Speaker 2: It feels like silk when you're putting it on. It
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  Speaker 2: does literally, it's it's so silky when you put it
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  Speaker 2: on and then it's going to hydrate you. It's I
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  Speaker 2: just can't even say enough about it. I just want
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  Speaker 2: you to try.
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  Speaker 1: It, ok, and I'm gonna try it. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: is for the audience to try. Where can they buy
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  Speaker 2: I kept the packaging very simple, even even from the
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  Speaker 1: Give it like one hotel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I kept I kept my men you know in mind,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm so proud of you. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: is this, you have beautiful skin. I know your age,
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  Speaker 1: but do you want the world to know because at
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  Speaker 1: your age the skin and scanning and obviously it has
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  Speaker 1: a lot to do with the stuff you've been doing
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  Speaker 1: with this too. Yes, let them know how old you are.
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  Speaker 2: I just had my fifty fourth birthday in January.
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  Speaker 1: She is fifty four years old. Yes, yes, it has
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  Speaker 1: no crack in that phase.
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  Speaker 2: And my makeup artist is here today shout out to
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  Speaker 2: he was like, Okay, tell me what you like, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, light as possible. Don't slept they have you
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  Speaker 2: makeup on. I did havevy makeup on TV for years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it. I want you to go light.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, pop my eye, pop my live. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want foundation. I don't wear foundation.
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  Speaker 1: So so what do you have on now?
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  Speaker 2: No foundation?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you look good. You know. Listen, we go way,
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  Speaker 1: way way back, but before we get to how we
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  Speaker 1: first met, I do want to go back a little
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  Speaker 1: bit further in terms of your childhood, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know all about your childhood, but you had a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting life growing up. Can you explain to the
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  Speaker 1: audience exactly what that was about for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So I went from normal upbringing, or what I
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  Speaker 2: thought was very normal. My mother was introduced to scientology
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  Speaker 2: and just went balls to the wall. Sold everything our house, furniture,
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  Speaker 2: everything we had took me because I was the youngest child,
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  Speaker 2: and we moved to LA to the Scientology headquarters, the
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  Speaker 2: big blue building, and my life has never been the same.
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  Speaker 2: Like literally, I was there until I was thirteen when
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  Speaker 2: they kicked me out, Well they kicked you out. They
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  Speaker 2: said I was a free loader because I would not
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  Speaker 2: sign the billion year contract to work for them in
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  Speaker 2: their organization.
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  Speaker 1: The billionaire contract, billion year contract, billion years, a billion years.
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  Speaker 2: That was their contract that they presented to the members
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  Speaker 2: that are in their organization, and they wanted me to
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  Speaker 2: sign it, and I was like, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Well what does that entail?
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  Speaker 2: You're there for life, so what intails you don't leave.
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  Speaker 2: They believe in reincarnation. So when you die, or what
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  Speaker 2: they call it, drop in your body. When you drop
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  Speaker 2: this body, you come back in your You keep fulfilling
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  Speaker 2: your obligation to them for a billion years, which is absurd.
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  Speaker 2: And I understood that at thirteen, and I was like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I want to do it. So they said,
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  Speaker 2: either you sign this or you get out. And so
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  Speaker 2: I've been on my own since I was thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: Your mother let you leave, Walk right out.
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  Speaker 2: The door, down the steps, down the sidewalk, didn't say
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  Speaker 2: a word.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, I'm I'm getting most of it right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you are a thirteen year old girl, not even a woman.
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  Speaker 1: You're a thirteen year old girl and you leave the
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  Speaker 1: Scientology building.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had a little backpack that had my
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  Speaker 2: clothes in it, so all I had.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get into what you did after that,
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  Speaker 1: do you remember some of the practices that they had
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  Speaker 1: you do doing your time.
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  Speaker 2: There, Yes, I do. The crazy thing is the overall
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  Speaker 2: goal of their organization is pretty positive. They want to
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  Speaker 2: clear the world of negativity. That's the overall goal. To
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  Speaker 2: clear the planet, not the world, the planet. In order
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  Speaker 2: to clear the planet, that means every individual on planet
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  Speaker 2: Earth would have to be a scientologist or a Sea
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  Speaker 2: Org member, two different things. Scientologists is when you just
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  Speaker 2: go and take the courses. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: celebrities that are scientologists. Tom Cruise is a scientologist. Dougie
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  Speaker 2: Fresh scientologists. Didn't know that day, I didn't know that,
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of celebrities that are scientologists. However, when
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  Speaker 2: you join the Sea Org is when you sign the
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  Speaker 2: billion year contract to work for them, work for them forever,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a whole different ballgame.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, did any mishaps happen to you, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: people do consider it to be a cult, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: on a cult, a lot of unfortunate defenses happens to you,
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  Speaker 1: especially young girls. Did you experience any of those industrial.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, I did not experience any thing like that. It
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  Speaker 2: was more so I have a story one time I
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  Speaker 2: was late for school because we went to Scientology school
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  Speaker 2: as well. Like you were there, you didn't you didn't
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  Speaker 2: go out of the compound. You know, you can go
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  Speaker 2: from building to building, but you weren't allowed to just
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  Speaker 2: go to regular school and go to whatever whatever. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I was late for school one day and because I
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  Speaker 2: was late, they had me white glove a dumpster. Literally
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  Speaker 2: I think I was nine, and I had to white
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  Speaker 2: glove a dumpster, meaning clean the entire dumpster. And when
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  Speaker 2: I was done, they literally put white gloves on and
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  Speaker 2: like scraped the crevices of the dumpster. It was things
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  Speaker 2: like that. Remember I had a cleaning service. Oh I
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  Speaker 2: know how to clean, thank you Scientology.
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  Speaker 1: So that just to check to make sure that shit
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  Speaker 1: was spotless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my punishment for being late for school.
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  Speaker 2: It was extreme things like that that I experienced, but
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  Speaker 2: never anything you know, you know, sexual or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: I never went through that.
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  Speaker 1: When you left at thirteen, where did you go?
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  Speaker 2: I had a family friend that lived in south central
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  Speaker 2: at La, and I had I took the bus. I
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  Speaker 2: took the bus, two buses, all the way across town.
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  Speaker 1: You know, where to go. I got.
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  Speaker 2: I went to the payphone, because you know his payphone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I went to the payphone, and I had her number
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  Speaker 2: written down in a piece of paper, and I called her.
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  Speaker 2: She's like my cousin, shout out to two love you,
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  Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, you know, come over. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on. Her family didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what was going on. I didn't tell him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't understand the severity of you don't have
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  Speaker 2: anywhere to live. I didn't get it. I just was like,
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  Speaker 2: let me figure out right now. I was just in
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  Speaker 2: the moment, trying to live in that moment. So in
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  Speaker 2: this moment, I need somewhere to stay tonight. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's where my mind went, Where can I stay tonight?
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  Speaker 2: So I called a friend and I went to her house. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's been an interesting journey. Yeah, shall I say, how.
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  Speaker 1: Long did you stay with the family friends slash her cousin.
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  Speaker 2: I stayed with them for that weekend, right, uh huh
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  Speaker 2: uh Friday, I went over there. I stayed with them
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  Speaker 2: for the weekend. So Monday, everybody's back to business. Her
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  Speaker 2: dad it was going to work, She's going to school,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: I can't just sit in their house twenty four to seven,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, huh. Took the bus back to the building, right,
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  Speaker 2: and I went to school. I didn't know what else
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: You went back to Scientology school.
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  Speaker 2: I went back to Scientology school. Like I got kicked
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  Speaker 2: out of the living quarters. But I'm like, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: say nothing about the school. I didn't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if the school knew. So I went back
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  Speaker 2: to the school. Mind you, there were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: celebrity kids that were going to this school, like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of celebrity kids. Juliette Lewis was there, Gi
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  Speaker 2: Giovanni Ribisi, he's a big time actor right now. There
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of kids that we're in the Scientology school.
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  Speaker 2: So I would watch the kids that were going home
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  Speaker 2: in the nicest whips, and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go spend the night with them tonight because I know
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  Speaker 2: if I go to their house, then I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: get a good meal, I'm going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: take a.
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  Speaker 1: Bath, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And so that that was my thought process. Let me
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  Speaker 2: make this uncomfortable situation comfortable. And I did that for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the school year. I spent the night
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  Speaker 2: with a different kid every night for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the school year. I figured it out. I never slept
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  Speaker 2: on a park bench, I never had to do nothing
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  Speaker 2: strange for change. I figured it out, and I made
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  Speaker 2: it work for me, you know, the best way I could.
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  Speaker 1: So, And where was her father at around this time?
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  Speaker 2: My dad was an upstate New York. I had not
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  Speaker 2: met my dad yet. I had met him till I
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  Speaker 2: was sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first time sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: So I grew up believing my brother and sister's father
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  Speaker 2: was my father my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Did your mother let you believe that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, she even gave me his last name. My
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  Speaker 2: last name was James at the time. Right, So, my
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  Speaker 2: sister graduated from Florida State and my sister I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: seen my sister in years since when my mother took
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  Speaker 2: me to La that I didn't I lost contact with
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  Speaker 2: my siblings because they were in college in high school.
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  Speaker 2: I was there, I didn't have a phone and we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a phone in the building like it was.
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  Speaker 2: I lost contact with him. So my sister contacted my
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  Speaker 2: mother and was like, I want me and me to
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  Speaker 2: come to my graduation. I'm graduating from college. So my
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  Speaker 2: mother was like, well, you know, how's she going to
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  Speaker 2: get there. My sister was like, I have a friend
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  Speaker 2: ironically that's coming from gonna drive down from La to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: She got hop in a car with them. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So hopped in the car, went to the graduation. Who
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  Speaker 2: do I see my dad? I haven't seen this man
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  Speaker 2: in years? Right, I'm like, oh, my god, Daddy, I
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  Speaker 2: see him from all the way down the football field.
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  Speaker 2: I'm running to him. I should have known he was
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  Speaker 2: my dad. He's black man, chocolate from the Islands. Look
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  Speaker 2: at me. We did it one of him. I gravel
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  Speaker 2: Mama hugging him and he didn't embrace me. He patted
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  Speaker 2: me on my head like a dog. He said, my
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  Speaker 2: you got taller. This was the only things. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen you in years. I hope I got taller, but
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  Speaker 2: in that instant I knew he wasn't my dad. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way that my father that hasn't seen me
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  Speaker 2: in years is gonna pat me and say, my you
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  Speaker 2: got taller. So I literally had to sit with that
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  Speaker 2: the entire weekend that I was there for the graduation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting with this. It felt like somebody stabbed me
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  Speaker 2: in the chest with a machete. That's what it felt like,
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  Speaker 2: like the pain that I felt. And I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: who to talk to. I didn't know, like I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to ruin my sister's graduation and bring up all
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  Speaker 2: this my bs, you know, So I just sat with it.
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  Speaker 2: I sat with it, And when I got back to California,
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  Speaker 2: I went to that building and I went to my
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  Speaker 2: mom and I said, Hey, who's my dad? Because that
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  Speaker 2: dude that's not my dad.
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  Speaker 1: Who's my dad?
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  Speaker 2: My mother wrote down a name, it number, slid me
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  Speaker 2: over the piece of paper and said, here's his name
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  Speaker 2: and number. You can call him if you like. At sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: and that's how I found out out he wasn't my dad.
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  Speaker 2: And this other guy was Oh, my.
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  Speaker 1: Lord, yeah, and what was it like meeting him for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of cool because I saw me in him.
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  Speaker 2: We looked alike. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this makes more sense.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Did he know about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew about me. It was writing my mom
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  Speaker 2: letters for years, and my mom she was you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: she wasn't clearly ready to deal with it, so she
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: didn't want to have the conversation with me, so she
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: never you know, he was mad at me. I've been
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: looking for you. I've been writing. I'm like, I didn't
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't know out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Of respect to your mother, and I want to ask us,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: not being disrespectful, because you know, my heart, did your
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: mother suffer through any mental illness that you may know
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: or where she just caught up in the religion of scientology.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: She was searching for her truth. I really believe that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: she was searching for her truth, for her happiness. She
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: was just searching because before that religion, she was in
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the year religion heavy, heavy, heavy, and that's where Ola
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Raimi came from. When I was born, she gave me
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: an African name, but she was constantly searching for her
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: happiness and her peace, and unfortunately the religions that she
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: chose took over everything. It was. It was bigger than
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: her kids, It was bigger than anything else in her life,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and she she fell victim to it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so you're in la You're a teenage girl.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And what is so interesting? Even before the love and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: hip hop the love and hip hop fame, you were
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in some music videos. Yeah. My favorite video that you're
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: in is Pharrell and jay Z song Frightened Frighten Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and you're y'all top your real hair looking amazing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I was in it with Lauren London, Lauren London and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the Chocolate Drop Pretty ye yes, yes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: How did you get involved in Hollywood.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Crazy thing? I was just always around that circle. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: don't even know how I even got there, but I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: was always around music industry people. Even for that video.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't audition for that video. There was a woman
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: that worked for def Jam, Margot rain Right. Shout out
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to Margot. She hit me up and she was like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: we need you know a girl for this video. We
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: have to we need another girl. We're going to fly
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you out for the video. That was it. They flew
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: me out. I did the video. Like all the videos
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I was in, they just called me and say, hey,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: come do this video. I didn't have to audition for
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it or anything like that. So I don't know, God
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: just be blessing me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. So you were in
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that video and other music videos?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Were you? I did one twelve and super Cat. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: can't remember. It was so long ago. It was so long.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You were like an it girl.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, first of all, it was it was you, Claudia.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Carle roommates.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Claudia and I were roommates. Carl she lived around the corner.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love all of this. What was it like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: working with Prella and jay Z?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It was cool? It was super cool, Like there, it
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: was fun that that video shoot was very fun we did.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It was like all day party, like you know how
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: they had the skateboards and stuff and the red cups
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: were they really were serving drinks like it was it
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: was a party all day. It was super cool. People
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: are playing with you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It was it was fun. Do you remember the concept
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: of the video because I had a lot of people remembered,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like the full concept of the video. I don't know
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: if it translated, well, tellers, and I'll let you know
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: if I got that. Okay, So I was Sparrell's girlfriend
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: or one of the girls he was dating, right, And
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I was there flirting with one of the skateboard guys.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a lot going on in that video.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember when we go
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in the garage and I put my finger, yeah, because
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I was outside, you know, doing my thing with one
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: of his skateboard friends, and then I think he caught me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: It was a lot going on. But then he was there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: He had the other two girls there too, so everybody
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was was doing them in the video. Okay, treatment, okay, treatment.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: The rest is history. But no, you've been around a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: lot of famous people, a lot of famous men. Who's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the most famous guy you dated, most.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Famous guy I dated?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: To me?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Famous relative Carlos?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You don't know the absent, you know, you know there's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: two Once an army singer, Yes.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh my god.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, once an army singer. What is a rapper? Yeah?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Keep it, keep it there, Yeah, we're gonna keep it
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And all I will say is they're both very relevant today. Yes,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: do they keep in touch with you?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: We don't keep in touch. But if I see him,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: it's it's all good. Yeah, it's all good.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Did you were you ever in love with any of them?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: In love?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You were in love with the rapper. He was in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: love with you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: First of all, let's be clear, at my ripe age
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: right now, at my ripe good age right now, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: can't say that I was in love. I was probably
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: inad infatuated, in confusion. I was probably in a lot
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of things.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if love was one of them. But
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he was in love with you. I thought that's based
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on like you know, because you guys have nicknames grab
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the ear when you look back, oh your like early twenties.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Because I believe in this, and I would love to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: get your theory or your opinion about this. I tell
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: everybody in your twenties me had tack a something to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: have this conversation. I'm going to be much more vulgard
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: because he think a sum as a classy woman. But
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we both agreed that your twenties, live your life. Yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I believe in your twenties, have your whole phase. Men
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and women go out there.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Day experience that, I mean yead.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So that when you're in your thirties, mid thirties, you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: can feel like I could settle down now, and because
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I lived, I did that. Did you have a wonderful
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: time in your twenties?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Actually, my thirties was better than my twenties. Why. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it was because in my twenties I was a Dodo
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: bird shit idiot, like I didn't know. Yeah, in my thirties,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I was a little bit you know, and I was
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: like okay, and I was able to Yeah, my thirties
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: were great.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: How old were you when you joined Love and Hip
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Hop thirty seven?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Mm?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: How old were you when you met Stevie j twenty.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Three or four twenty three?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Four?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Was it love at first sight?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It was oh wow, who is that? It was? Who
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: was that? Yeah?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: In a sea of men? Yes you saw.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, let's talk about it. I'm met the No
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Way Out tour right and you know, concerted it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: rocket discussing this one jumps on top of the speaker,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: rips off his wife beater and starts playing the bass
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: guitar and I was like yeah, yeah. And then a
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: week later, I run into him at a club. He
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: steps off my foot with his timberlin and I didn't
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: know it was him. It was dark, you know, dimly lit,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and I was about to cuss him the fuck out
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: because he heard my toe and I look up and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it was Stevie. And that's how we met. He stepped
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on my foot with his fucking temperance.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: He was like, there he goes, there he goes. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: when y'all locked eyes, y'all were light and separable.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It has been We have a sixteen year old.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I want to tell I want to ask you about
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this story, and you tell me if it's true.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, oh God, Okay, okay, because maybe the life of
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Meybe Founds is a biopic that should be on lifetime.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Is it true that when Stevie J was dating Eve,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that you found out and you had a fight with her.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: No, that is not true.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: If they had a fight, I didn't fight anybody.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: What there's a story that I've heard about that's a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: hotel backdrop, right, Okay.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Because the story is all twisted, let's talk about it. Stevie,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I knew that he was seeing Eve, but he told me,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: we're not together. We're broke up. We're broken up, we're
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: not together. I missed you. I want to see you.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Come visit me. Fine flew to New York. He was
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: at not a hotel, this was his place. It was
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: his condo. And I'm there. We're chilling all day. I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: talk about all day. We're chilling all night, chilling. It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the wee hours of the motherfucking It's like four o'clock
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in the morning. We're still chilling. We can't we in bed,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: we talking catching up. Knock knock, knock on the door.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So his homeboy was in the living room. So he
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, my at the door. This dude says,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: let her in. Was always with the ship, always we're
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: in the bed, dick, he says, let her in. So
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you told me y'all broke up. Like what
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the fuck? So she comes walking down the hall clickity clack,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: clickity clack, with her eels on, baby, and I'm like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: are you fucking serious right now? And I'm looking at
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: him and he is like, not faced at all, chilling,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the fuck? She comes She just
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: talking talking. You know, the hallways in New York they're long, yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So they're like an eternity this shit. He getting to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: this barrow and I'm like what the fuck. And I'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: laying to bed, like she comes. She flips on the
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: light and she was like stunned. You know what I'm saying.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Of course she of course she would be right. So
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: she goes but zirk, she cussing him out every which way,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: fuck Sunday and fuck you. You know, do you know
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: what I am? I mean, she's going in. She going
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in rightfully, so rightfully so and what are you doing?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like, as long as they don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: come over, we're good.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: You could cuss, throw, break.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Everything in this bitch, just stay over there. So she
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, So she gets up, she was like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: fuck you, I'm out. She leaps. I guess once she
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: left out. Thirty six us later, she must have realized
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I just left him in there in the bed, bitch.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So she like her, She was like, I must have
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: clicked her. Wait, fuck that right, So she bamming on door.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Here go yo, my back at the door, distant let
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: her in.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Stephen Jordan Stephen Jorddah has always been with the sheds.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: So now she comes in like a fricking tornado. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and then that then that was them that had the fight.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: They going at it, they going, they were going. She
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: was trying to rip his head off his shoulders and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: roll his head down that hall like a bully ball.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: And I didn't blame her, and I was like, you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: know what, y'all got some ship, y'all got a handle.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Let me go, how politely got dressed and I.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Left, and you was like, get him again. He told me.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: He's always is doing some bullshit, always doing some bullshit.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know what it's so interesting about that entire story
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to me is the fact that he has never changed,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like that's that's who he is. And admittedly, admittedly you're
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: in your twenties, there's some sort of thrill about that
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: for him, I mean for you. I mean, you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like the good girl didn't a bad boy of.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Course, of course, of course, yes, of course, but when
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you're being consistently lied to and you don't know. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: didn't know when you tell me we're not together, oh
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: we I mean, it was a all thing. We're not together.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I'm looking around, I don't see any of her stuff,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, okay, this is
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: this is a thing. They're not together. That was all bullshit.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Then he calls me the next day and said, why
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: did you leave? He made me look bad? What that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: made you look bad? Why did I leave? Yeah? He's macaron.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I also want to clear something up. A lot of
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: people said, oh, he dated Eve, and you named your
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: daughter after Eve. My daughter is not named after Eve.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Let's come on now. My daughter is named after her mother,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: my my mother, so Eva's grandmother. My mother's name is Eva.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I named her after her grandmother.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Her name is Eva.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: My Eva is my mother's middle name. So I named
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: her Eva. Giselle, not after Eve. Had nothing to do
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: with Eve.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I know people thought that because again I know that
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: her name is Eva.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: People were like, oh, you named your daughter after I'm like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: where'd y'all get that from?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I never thought about that. That's wild. O. Listen, I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: glad you cleared that up. Okay, so you're thirty seven
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: years old and Love and Hip Hop calls.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: You Hannah Kane.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Hannah Kank shouting.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Hannah Kank shot out to Hannah Kan Hannah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Kank, First of all, she's a a silent killer, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the literal sense. But she
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: runs shit in Atlanta and always has. She's a big
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: deal in music industry. Yes, she's a gorgeous woman. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid of her because you think made me know
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: how to cause don't mess with Hannah Kan, baby, you
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: will get dealt with Shaunt Hannah Kank. She's a best
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: kept secret. Yes, I love you Hannah.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So Hannah's my home girl, that's my mind mark,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: very close, very close. Hannah was hired to do the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: casting for Love and Hip Hop. Okay, so of course
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: she gonna call her her folks first. So she hits
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: me up. She was like, yo, she sends me a text.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: She was like me, me, there's a new show, Love
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Atlanta. Mind you. Love and Hip Hop
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: New York was out first season. Jim and Christy saw it,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: loved it, loved it, thought it was cute, and so
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: she was like, they're doing an Atlanta franchise. You and
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Stevie should go out for the casting. So I was like, okay,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: So I called Stevie. Hey, Dana just told me about
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah whatever. Immediately this one goes in
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: on me. Immediately, and I was like, put the gun away,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Like what the fuck this?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Fuck you?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that shit with you. I mean cussed
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: me out. I was like, okay. I was confused, Like,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: what's why all the hostility. I'm just presenting an opportunity.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't get what he was sold. And that was that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I said, Okay, well, I guess that's not gonna.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Oops.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So this is Monday, right, The casting was Wednesday.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That's like a day and a half away. It's Monday afternoon,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: so you know, I said, you know what I thought
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: about it. I slept on it. I said, I'm going
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: to go down there, just because I got the fucking
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: phone call. I'h wanna see what they're talking about. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: go down the Mansion Hotel, which is now the what
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: is it now?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I forgot there.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I go down to the hotel and half of Atlanta
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: was there to try out for love and hip hop,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I mean line wrapped around the building, the lobby, sea
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: of people pet and I walk in and the only
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: person I saw out of this sea of people was
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Macaroni Jordan.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He was there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: He beat me there.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Why do you think he did that?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Steve? He beat me there, Carlos. So I sat sitting down.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I remember what he had on. He had on a
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: red Adidas track suit with some gazelle glasses. And I
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: was kind of bucking, like where do you get this from?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Like it was all like new clothes, Like where do
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you get this from? So I'm a little like what
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the like? I walk up on him. We had a
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: whole argument right there in the lobby. Sure did not loud,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: but you could tell it. It was a problem because
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it was a whole lot of this and finger pointing
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and you know. And we got a tap said, hey,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you two, come with me. Follow her. It was Tiffany.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Tiffany says, come with me. We follow her. We go
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to this big conference room. There's all these executives sitting
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in front of the table and they had two chairs
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: in the middle floor and they sat us there and
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: they said, so tell us about yourselves. First of all,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: we just got finished calling each other everything but a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: child to God.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Like bad.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It was bad in that lobby. And he turns into
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a saint. The sun, the moon and the stars and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: when the planets aligned, the fuck what? And I'm looking
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: at him like, you can't be serious, right, now he's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: talking about planets aligning and the moon and the stars,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and all of the executives everybody was looking really perplexed,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: like what is he talking about. I don't even think
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: he knew he was talking about. He was just trying
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to fluff them. He's a music dude. He didn't know
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: what they wanted. He needs a TV. I don't think
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: he even knew what they wanted. So he was just
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: trying to give him something and he he turned into
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: a Saint Gandhi. I was when I tell you, I
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: was fuming, Carlos. I said, you are not going to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: get in front of these people and act like this
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: after what you just said to me in that lobby.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm greeting my teeth, my leg is shaking, all the stuff.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: When I say Jesus took the wheel, because I just
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: blurted it out, I said, you want to know the problem,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I says, he doesn't come home or not and when
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: he does, he smells like pussy. And there you have it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: So what's funny is okay? So I get a call
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: about their doing love and Hip Hop Atlanta and I'm
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a fan of New York. I'm a huge fan of Chrissy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think she's an icon in her own right. And
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing Housewives, and I'm like, I want
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to go over here because I love loving hip hop.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So long story short, Mona scot Young she showed me,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like everybody who's a part of the show whatever, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that same hotel. It was a cast meeting, and I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: remember meeting you and Stevie and I remember instantly being like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: those are stars and you know this, I'm sure. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: at the time, the network wanted DJ Drama and his
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: girl to be the face of the franchise. Did you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: know this?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, so DJ Drama, the network, everybody was like, they're
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the premier couple because DJ Drama obviously is relevant and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: at that time, obviously in Atlanta he still is, but
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: at that time too a big name.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, that's fine, I said, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: there's something about this bb in Stevie. I'm just telling
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you about I see this is maybe a Stevie thing,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: is lit. Long story short. DJ Dramas girl at the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: time was fifty to fifty and Drama was like twenty
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: five twenty five percent that he wanted to do or
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: seventy five. He wasn't doing it. Long story short, they
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: backed out and we had one week to start filming.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: They never agree with the show. It's funny you don't
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: know this, And Mona goes, what are we going to do?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And I said, I think we should focus on media
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and TV and she said, I think you're right. She
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: and I, along with Stephanie Gale and the rest of
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the producers, all of us collectively, we had to rearrange
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the episode, and our first theme that we shot was
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you and Stevie in this house. And y'all got to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: this argument and me and Mona and Stephanie looked at
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: each other and said, oh, bitch, we got a show.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: We got a show. We got a show. Remember that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and look it was Look the rest is history. But
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: This obviously, So again, there was no Joscelyne at this time. Yes,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: there was in terms of us knowing about it. Okay,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: So how did.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: You find out that Stevie j wanted Joscelyn to be
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: on the show.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: He told me initially because he needed an artist, because
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: he is a pre producer, so he needed an artist
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to film with. So that's why I thought Joscelyn was
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: initially was his artist. I'm going to be doing studio scenes,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I didn't really know what the truth
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: was till it aired.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: And I saw types of goings on going on because
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: at that time, you really thought we were working on
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: our relationship.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes I did. I found out what the rest
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of the world on Monday night.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It appears to me that the same thing Stevie told
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you about him and Eve not being together is the
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: same thing he told her, Yes, and that's why in
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: her eyes she thought this was my man, and you're
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: just the baby mama, got it. Yeah, so you're the problem, Steven.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I love you. The problem is two women were forced
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to dislike each other based on the lies of the man.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: He loved every second of it. He likes that drama
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: around him.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: He loves it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: He's always done it. He did it back when he's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing now, but I'm sure
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: he's doing it right now today.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: What is your relationship like now with Stevie.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Jay, I don't have a relationship with him.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: No, Nope, you guys don't talk.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Why for what? Up? You have the daughter together.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: She has a cell phone.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Is there something happened?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: He I don't know where his deal is. But to
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: keep my peace. You see how peaceful I am. I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: keep I stay the funk away from me. Yeah, he
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: can call Eva, they can communicate, But yeah, as far
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, I don't have anything to talk to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: him about. There's there's no contributing factor to our household
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: from him. What the fuck do we have to talk about?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: We don't talk to your daughter. Whatever you gotta do
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: with her, but yeah, we don't. I just I keep
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: my peace, and that's the only way I know how
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: because he he Yeah, I'd got to keep my peace.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So you stay wherever you're gonna be, and you gonna
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: draw a line. Lie.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that obviously you and Jocelyn. You know
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you guys share children who are considered half siblings. Do
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you and Joscelene talk tough the kids to each other?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Eva calls her sister. They talk on the phone all
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the time. Okay, so her and Bonnie. I hear them
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: all the time on FaceTime and chopping it up, and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you know, so they definitely have a relationship, and I
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: encourage it. Call your sister. Have you talked to your sister.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I encourage her to have a relationship as her sister,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: but me and her mom know she sent even some
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: money for her birthday. Thank you. Yeah. But as far
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: as us communicating, no, we don't communicate.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: When you look at who Joscelyn is now, are you
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: proud of what she's been able to accomplish.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: From where she came from? Absolutely? Absolutely. I mean it's
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: still on the same level, but she's very successful at
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: what she does, what she has, the brand that she's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: made for herself and very successful. So absolutely, any woman
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: who can bring themselves from where they were to a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: successful level, were able to take care of her family
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and do what she does, kudos to her. Absolutely.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your experience doing
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: reality television because I remember working with you guys season
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: one and me me after the first episode aired, youll
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: lives were never the same. No, and I'm not exasperating
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: when I say this, and you stop me because you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: know they love to say call us type shit up.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: We had a lot of housewives. There was a different
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: energy in the city of Atlanta alone. When it came
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you guys were the biggest celebrities in the city.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: We're not even gonna touch going out, you know, worldwide
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and all that ship. But I'll just say with Atlanta, yeah,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: it was a It was a meteoric rise. You went
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: from making a couple of thousand two I will never
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: get them through your business you want to. You were
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: making double digits your second season.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: People today believe that there will be no love and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: hip hop. Yes, Christie Jimmy started it, and we will
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: always give them props for like Vicki Gobason with OC.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: But everyone said Niani Leaks, put Nini Leaks, Shara Kim,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Lisa will put the spots on the map. Everyone
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: has said that. And this is no shade to anybody.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: People say this that me and me, Stevie, James, jos
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Leen carried that franchise on their back. Do you at
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: that time did you understand the power? You had?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not, no clue, no clue. I was literally living
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: it in the moment, and I couldn't even see outside
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: of the situations that were going on in my every day,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: So I had no clue. It was like I was
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: in a bubble, how big it was, how I had
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: no clue. Carlos. Had I had a clue, i'd be
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: somewhere completely different. Right now, I'll tell you that I
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: really would have.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Did you save any money?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saved. I'm great at saving. I'm a capcorn. Okay,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I'm saying grated saving.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you got compensated for what you
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: brought to that show?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: That's questionable. It's relative. Here's the thing with the compensation,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: because reality TV only pays you one time and one
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: time only, and it keeps running and keeps running, and
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: you never get compensated again. I'm gonna say no, Okay,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I do not feel like for it to still be running.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: There's people that young people that come up to me
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: now that say, oh my god, you know that feel
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: like they're just they're just seeing this for the first
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: time and they're getting this experience and I don't get
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: another dime from that, but somebody else's so No, I
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: don't to answer your questions. No.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Jocelyne said that she believed she became the highest paid
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: talent on Love and Hip Hop. She says she was
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: making around fifty thousand per episode. Were you getting the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: same Nope, you weren't no, were you getting half of that? Yes?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I was getting more than half when I wasn't getting that.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you deserve to get paid as
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: much as Jocelyne fucking Louie?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, because if it wasn't for me and him,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: there would have been on her. So yeah, absolutely, don't
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: get me wrong. Jocelyne was the fire, She was the flare.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: She brought all the antagonistic everything to the table, but
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: it all tied together. If I wasn't a part of that,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: then you see what I'm saying. Yeah, we should have
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: been making the same amount of money all three of us.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were ever appreciated for what
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you contributed to the show?
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Not really? Nah, not really. I feel like I felt
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: like I was a pawn in the To be honest,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I really did. I felt as though I was the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: person who they could get that reaction from, and I
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: gave it to him every time they could they you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: and even though I kept my cool, I would keep
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: my cool for as long as I could. But at
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: some point the cool goes out the window when you're
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: when these things, these situations are happening, and sometimes you
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: lose your cool and I lost my cool a lot.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I was a very emotional I was emotional as fuck
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: because I'm really living this in real time, so yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I am. And it was like got her cut, Okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: wrap it up. Yeah, and I'm just like I'm left
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: there at a complete fucking emotional wreck. And they were like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: we got the scene, all right, let's go, and I'm
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: just over here fucking losing it with no recourse. There
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: was no recourse. There was no therapists we could go
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: talk to afterwards, there was no there was nothing. It
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: was just wreck your shit and send you home. Go.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: That's basically what it was.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: It was a lot, and it was a lot more.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: When Nico came on the show, do you regret.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely ten thousand percent regret that whole I regret I
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: regret meeting Nico, Yeah, that whole situation. If there was,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you know, the big do over buttons, if I had
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: one to push, it would be him, Yes, why yes,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: it would be him, because with him came a lot
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of bad decisions, very bad decisions I can't take back
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: came with that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: With that situation, it's about the sex tape. Do you
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: regret doing it?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like he manipulated you.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I felt manipulation was a part of it. Naive, I
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: was gullible as fuck. I had lack of anybody around
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: me with any type of integrity to give me good
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: advice or to steer me in the right direction. It
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: was a lot of factors. It was a lot of
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: factors to go along with that situation.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I remember you called me, do you do you remember this?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Tell me I was in I was in Mexico. Fail
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: me Niani Leak's Wedding special and I'm in Mexico because
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the that was a Bridesmade Trip, Bachelor red party. There
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you go and you call me and you told me
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: what was going on. And I said to you, oh, baby,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: don't no, I don't like that. I said, you're I said,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you're You're You're so much better than that. You're so
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: much better than that. And I could tell at the
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: time that your headspace was somewhere else and I knew that.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And listen when I say this, and I'm saying this
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: as somebody who understands what you reality stars have to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: go through. It is a unique world. And it's sort
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of like being a part of a sports team. Like
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: you will you will never know what the athletes have
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: to go through, discipline, training, all of that to to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: be you know, the top five starting players. So I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: knew you were at a place where that show was
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: so fucking big and it was like topping yourself every
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: chance you can get right, And I just knew you
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: were being influenced by people around you. I appreciate the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: fact that you knew with me, I will always tell
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you the truth. And although I said, Pitt, you don't
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: need that girl by blah blah blah boom, I also
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: knew that because I wasn't on the show with you anymore,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: that our connection where because when we were together, you'd
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: be like and I'm like, you'd be like, ok right.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: So I knew that, unfortunately, because we weren't together, that
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you have other people around you. And I just remember
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, I just want her to be okay.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I just want her to be okay. Everything hit the fan.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you this is your is
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: even aware? Yes? And how do you remember? Do you
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: remember the day that you have that conversation with her?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Did she find out you decided to tell her your
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: own She already knew, she already knew do you know
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: how old she was when she knew? She was.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I think eleven or twelve when she caught wind of it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Do you know how she called her friends?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because kids were watching Love and Hip
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Hop at the time, and their parents were letting and
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: watch it. I never let even watch the show, but
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: you know that was me. So many other parents were
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: letting their kids watch the show, and so, yeah, some
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: kids said something to her about it. She can she no,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: she never said anything. She kept it to herself. She
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: never said anything. And every time I'm like, Okay, I'm
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: gonna tell her, I'm going to tell her, and I
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's not the right time. I kept
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: thinking it wasn't the right time. So when I finally
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: told her, she had already known.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Do you remember how old she was?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And told her, uh, thirteen thirteen?
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: And how did she just said I already knew?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah? She was like you she was like she already knew. Yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: But you know that was a crazy moment because I'm like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you know, what does it tell you? And you know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't want you to find out any other way,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: But I should have known Love and Hip Hop was
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: so big unless I kept her completely under a rock.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: How was she not?
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And that alone was what's crazy is it was low
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: key as big as ray Ja and Kims. It was huge.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: They broke the internet.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah broke. Did you think that that would
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: have given you the star power of Kim Kardashian. No,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you didn't think that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. And my actual reason for doing it
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: was once I had the conversation with the people at
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Vivid and they were like, this is out in the world,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: like your shit's out there. He shopped it. It's all over,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: so it can be all over or it can be
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: all over and controlled. And in my you know, I'm like, well,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I would rather be controlled then it just be all over.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Uncontrolled was my thought process in the moment for even
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: signing with them, because I was like no. At first,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like I'm not, no, like no, because they initially
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: just wanted to talk to us. I guess they wanted
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: to let me know that this is everywhere, and that
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: was my reason for actually signing with them, because I
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: wanted it to be controlled, which I mean, yeah, yeah.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Do you remember how much they paid you.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Was it a lot? Yeah? Well, what I did was
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: took the deal to be paid over time. I didn't
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: want just a lump sum. I wanted it to just
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: be spread out.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Over time, hundreds of thousands. Okay, okay. On the show,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: you also had a babocate Michelle. Did that surprise you?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Because you guys, Because again I'm not on the show
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm watching it, I'm like, they got be But
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: but so it was so strange to me. Obviously, you know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: she hit hit you with the flower because she was
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: arguing about Nico living with his roommate.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Edit A.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: It did surprise me because I thought Hey and I
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: were cool. I thought we were friends, and she came
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: out of left field with this, and it surprised me
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: all the way. But in that moment, it really showed
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: me who came a show was And I never forgot it.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Do y'all speak?
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. We haven't spoken since that time.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Have not spoken since that time? I was like, got it? Noted,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: You'll never get to do that to me again in
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: your fucking life. Yeah.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about her being on Love? How
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: do you feel about her being on the Real Housewise,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I'm good for her.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Like I said, if you listen, it's hard to these
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: hard times, if you can maneuver and get where you
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: need to be and elevate yourself. Good for her, good
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: for her, for her country music career, all that, but
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: her as a person. As far as her and I concerned,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I don't fuck what came to show?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Do you fuck with Arion Davis?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I do not.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: That was her best friend? Yes, where did things go
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: wrong with you? In Aria?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: She continued to show me who she was as well,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: little things here and there. You consistently you befriended everybody
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: on the show. They didn't fuck with me. Did you
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: realize that even down to Nego's wife you befriended. Is
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: this for the spotlight? Is it for a shine? Is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: it for?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: What is that for?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Because my best friend is not gonna be friend, he
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: goes wife. It's just not gonna do it. It's not
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: gonna fucking happen. And so I had to take sit
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: back and be like okay, and I kept giving her passes.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I kept giving her passes, and at some point I'm like, Okay,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you need to fucking look at yourself. You can't complain
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: about this person doing this and doing that, and you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: keep allowing it, You keep being okay with it. You
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: keep being cool with her after she does these things.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: So I just had to be an. I knew area
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: for years.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So is it true that you've recommended her?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely? She was my best friend.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Why not have my my best friend come on the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: show with me and go through this journey with me? Absolutely?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: What do you think changed the show?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: You've seen it. You've seen people from where they started
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and they get on TV and it sh changes them.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: It changes them.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: You know what's so fascinating. You are literally the same
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: person since day one, since then.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: You really are since day.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: What you've always been. And I mean that you are
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: one of the rare girls of mine that the first
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: of I met you, you have remained that person. It
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: does sad to me about the ending of your friendship
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: with Arian, because I knew how much you guys love
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: each other. Do you think that, Well, let me ask
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you this instead. Do you remember what the last straw was?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I don't. It's been so many years. I don't. It
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: was so much and I was just like, I don't
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: want to do this anymore, and I just stopped.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: You were in a relate show with Tai Young. Ty
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Young has been said by you know, the fans, your
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: girl Claudia Jordan, that thy Young likes to date women
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: in reality television. There were rumors she was dating Drew,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: So Dora, why well, first of all, maybe maybe I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: found you. You ready to allow the clip for some reason? Okay, yeah,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: you know, okay, I.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Just wanted to pat my hair.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: That's okay, y'all. I just found some energy all of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the Scientology or Oliver baby. But you brought her on
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the show. Do you think thy Young really loved you?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Okay? Why did you and tie Young break up?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: It was the marriage, the marriage thing that was the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: catalyst that really broke us up.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: What marriage thing she proposed?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: And I said yes in the moment, and then I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: was like I can't, I can't. This is not what
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be doing. And then it was
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: like a couple of days later, I was like, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: can do it, not on camera in real life. So
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: the whole, the whole proposal was very you know mm production. Yeah,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: and like why would you do that? Why would you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: do that? None of my people were there. None of
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: my people were there, not my daughter, not any of
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: my friends. I had all my friend's numbers. None of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: my people were at this proposal. Only her friends were there,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: which was a red flag for me. So I'm looking
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: like and I, you know, slept on it, and I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: was like, mm, this is not what I'm supposed to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: be doing. So I was like, here you go, ring
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: back and that's was the beginning of the end of us,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: because she tried to to get to you know, rekindle,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and you know, we didn't just break it off. I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: was just like, I don't want to do this marriage thing.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: She ended up giving me the ring back and it
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: was a whole thing. And then we got back together,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and then she cheated and it was the whole thing.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: So do you remember who she cheated on you with?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Who was it? There's a few people, reality stars.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: No, nothing, But before that, it was you know, someone
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: in her in her world.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Somebody in the w NBA. How did you find out
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: about her and Juice DOORA?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Atlanta's a small It's big, but it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: a small place, small.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Business off the street. Do not live in Atlanta a lot.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Atlanta is the smallest city.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, personal experience, go ahead, people talk, people talk, So yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I was getting you know, phone calls and things.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did Tipe break your heart?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: She hurt me? Yeah she did. She's very she's Scorpio
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: and see yeah both of them are Scorpio, so is justly. Yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: they're very. Once they feel scorned or or hurt or whatever,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: they make it their business to get you the fuck back. Yeah,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: and she did that. She did that, She made her business.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: She was like, she was calculated as motherfucking the way
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: she did what she did.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I said, okay, because she was hurt that you didn't
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: want to get married.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: That that's my take on it, because why would you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: pursue me back just to do what you did?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: She had to humble you. Because one thing about a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Scorpio when they love, they love very hard. And when
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: they give their love to you and they feel like
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: you crushed it, baby, they believe in revenge.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: And she did that. And we were together almost seven years.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Never cheated on that, never cheated on her in seven years.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: But then when that situation happened, Oh yeah, she she
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah I got you, bitch, Yeah she did.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: That was it?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: That was it justin fidelity or other stuff.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: It was that. It was that.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever date another woman? Again probably not. No,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: you're done? Is it okay? Question for you? Because you're
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: openly bisexual?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that's a stretch.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, what is it?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: That's a stretch?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. Apologies labeling you stretch. I was gonna
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: ask about you know that first apology? Don't use so.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you've been honest about being intimate with
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: women in the past, right, But what tie was Ty?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Just a special person who's who happens to be a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: warmer even in love with Yes, got it?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: But you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: You don't see yourself as bisexual?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you see yourself as?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's you know, in my mine, you know, maybe
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: the world sees me as that because yes, okay, I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: dated men my whole life and then I had a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: stint with women, right, and now I'm over it. So
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what do you call that?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Is that bisexual? I don't know? Well, I'm gays, honey?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Was you what a man is? What another man? The
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: society says you're gay? But I do feel like with
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the women. Look, the rules are different, and that's just
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: what it is. But that's a whole other time.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I know what the rules are. I have never seen
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: the rule book, so I don't know. But yeah I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: did that, I had my experience. I don't think I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: want to do it again. Matter of fact, I don't.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: And yeah I've moved on.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, are you dating anybody right now? I am
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: is a man?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Is he in the industry?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: He is not?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Oh? How along? Yam in dating? What a year he
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: lives in Atlanta? Is he a white collar blue collar worker? No? Neither.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: What does he do? He does what he is?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, are you in love? You haven't posted a man,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: and I won't. You will never go public again?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Never, no, never, stay out my motherfucking business. That is
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: the quickest way to ruin your shit. All these girls,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: and kudos to you if you want to do what
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you do. But everybody's putting these relationships online and letting
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: the world into their business and then it's good when
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: it's good, and when it's bad, it is bad, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: it's all, oh, yeah, no, I would never do that again.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: You're gonna guess and wonder till the day I die?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Do you want to get married to him?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: So you know, marriage has never been high on my
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: list of things to do with anybody. I just don't.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: My trust in humans and just human beings is you know,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I can love and love and love, but I know
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: human nature. You know what I'm saying. And I've been
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: tried and tested my entire fucking life, so I don't
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: know if if that's what I want to do, tie
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: my whole everything up into somebody and finances and bake
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: accounts and homes and this and that, and then when
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: it goes left, then you gotta It's so easy to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: get married, and it's so hard to get unfucking married.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Who want to do that? Not me?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I'm cool. We can, we can have we can be
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: life partners or whatever you want to call it. And
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: if I or he decides to go their way or
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: do whatever else, then we just gonna do that. I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: don't have to have a piece of paper to to,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: you know, or go stand in front of a judge
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't have to do all that.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I agreed, don't do it. I'm proud of you for
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: not even trying to promote your relationship absolutely even so
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: stick with that to my questions, all you got to run.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: But obviously you know recent news have been released where
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Basketball Wives is not returning anymore. Chaotic recently did a
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: post saying he's her from a very reliable source that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop is going to be canceled Miami
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Wow. He said that yesterday on Live. You
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: are the architect of that franchise. And even when I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: interviewed Kirk and Rashida, they still they said, let's be clear,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: it was the Stevie, Me Me Jos Lene show, and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: we all but just a part of it. You know
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: when you look at the show, now, what do you
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: think about this legacy?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: So you know I never watched, right, No, I never
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: watched Carlos. I think I saw the first season and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I was so tormented and traumatized by what I saw.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, I can't watch this, and I never
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: watched it again. Even and all the reunions, I'm like,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, Like they would have to,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: you know, of course they give us the thing to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: get yourself, but I really didn't know what was going on.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: If I didn't film it, I had no clue what
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: the fuck was happening because I had to keep my sanity.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm finding out my best friend is talking
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: shit about me to this one and that I was like,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I can't watch this, so I stopped watching it after
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: the first season. I was like, this is too much.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I never watched, so I don't really know what's going
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: on like nowadays unless people tell me or I might
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: see clips on social media, a clip here and there,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: but like to just know, oh this is happening, I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: don't know. I have to ask somebody, now what's going on? Yeah,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't watch.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: So you have no idea what's going on? No, what
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: advice would you give reality girlies about, you know, financially
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: setting herself up because at one one day it is
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: going to end.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, you have for though, Always have something on the side,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Have a product to sell, have something, especially while you're
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: on the show, while you're on TV and you're hot
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: and you're popping capitalized off of that. Use that as
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: a stepping stone to create a business or whatever else
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: it is that you want to do. So when this
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: is over, you have something to fall back on. Because
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: when it's done, it's done. There's no more checks coming in.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: It's done. Your notoriety is going to fizzle out unless
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: you were just hot, hot hot, So always have a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: plan B and always make sure you have somebody looking
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: over your contract.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, A good lawyer, A good lawyer. My last
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: question for you is obviously, you know we talked earlier
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: about you know, you've been in the business for a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: very long time. We see what's been happening with Diddie
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I know Sarah is one
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: of your best friends, one of his child's mother.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what's been going on with him?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised or do you feel like time has
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: finally caught up to him?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Double edged sword there, because the things that you do
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: in the dark, somehow always come to the light. So
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: it's really crazy to me because this man is being
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: persecuted for being a freak. He's in jail for being
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: a freak for the most part, which if people knew
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: what a lot of other people were doing today bedroom,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: he'd be a whole lot of people in jail, do
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, he's done some
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: really bad, terrible things. Should it be a regal case?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I think that's a stretch. Yeah, it's just it's a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: it's a weird I honestly believe they tried to they
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: felt like he was too big for his breeches, for
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: lack of better words, and they were like, we're gonna
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: show you that you can be knocked down and put
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: in your place there and there you have it.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Did you know that you know he was abusive to women?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I well I hadn't seen it, but I had
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: heard stories about it. I heard stories about it.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, did you watch the Cassie video?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, will be horrible, horrible, like horrible on every sense
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: of the word. Yeah, there was no There was no
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: words for that, Like my mouth was on the floor,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: like what the fuck horrible?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: When you would be around him, would you see anything
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: sinister or feel of senator energy or was he just
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: like everybody else in the industry.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: No, he definitely has a power air about him or
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: needed to be in control. Would he would belittle people
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: in his tone and things of that nature? I saw it.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I saw it. We didn't really get along the best.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: He's a dickhead, an asshole?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: And you would because I know your mouth, and you would,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: you would say how you.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Felt he's an asshole bottom line, like he wasn't the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: fluffiest person. Let's be let's be clear, he wasn't He
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't no fluffy type dude. He was a fucking asshole.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Would you tell Stevie like, why are you like friends
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: with home?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Ay?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: That's a grown ass man. And I'd be like, Hey,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: you're grown ass man. You make grown ass man decisions.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: But that's your homeboy. That's your homeboy. So that I could,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: you know, that's on that's you got that.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: But and how is Sarah doing?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: She's good, yeah, you know throughout it all, her and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: chants are good. You know, therapy of course is needed
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: and it's going to take time. That was a that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: was very traumatic to go through that, to see your
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: dad and you know, your kid's father having to go
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: through that is a lot. No matter how much of
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: an assholely is, that's still a chances dad, that's still
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Sarah's you know, daughter's father. So it was a lot
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: on her, on them, you know, collectively. But you know,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: she's a strong woman and she's you know, had to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: hold it together, not just for her, but for her,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: for the twins, for chance, you know, Kim's not here anymore.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot. That's a That situation was heavy, heavy, heavy,
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  Speaker 2: very heavy. It's a lot. People don't know too. People
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  Speaker 2: know what the media shows. There's a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff that people don't know that went
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  Speaker 2: on that was very you know it is That's a
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  Speaker 2: that was a heavy situation. And I'm going to say that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like more men are going to be
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  Speaker 1: shown about things they did in the past? Is going
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  Speaker 1: to come to light based on like some of the
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  Speaker 1: things that you may have you may know about have seen.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think things are.
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  Speaker 2: Coming to light now daily? Look at like what's happening
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  Speaker 2: with these Epstein files and names are getting released? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: things are coming to the light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if this is the year of exposed exposure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what, but yeah, just let's sit back
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  Speaker 2: because things are bubbling. M yeah yeah in real life.
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  Speaker 1: What it is, no, it really is really is. Well look, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I can thank you enough for this. This has been
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  Speaker 1: long overdue. I am so proud of you. Listen, the
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  Speaker 1: woman who you were and the woman you are. You
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  Speaker 1: are still my sweet potty mouth baby, okay. And I
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  Speaker 1: love the fact that you have not allowed this industry
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  Speaker 1: to change you. I mean, and I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it have to do with because you and Claudia
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  Speaker 1: are the same in the sense of y'all been around
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  Speaker 1: this industry for so long that I do feel like
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  Speaker 1: the reality thing y'all. Never let that phase, y'all because
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  Speaker 1: y'all already it wasn't new. Like some of the girls
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  Speaker 1: is their first taste at at it and they don't
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: know how to handle it. And I think with you,
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that you have remained this woman
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: who still has, you know, sweet calming spirit. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: just come up be more proud of you, Thank you early,
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  Speaker 1: and make sure to tell them again about older Mamy
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  Speaker 2: to say one more thing, yes about my moisturizer, because
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  Speaker 2: in it called palm kernel oil. Have you ever heard
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  Speaker 2: of an African using sunscreen?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's an American thing. That's what we use over
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: here to oh you need sunscreen, you need sunscreen. Well
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  Speaker 2: over in Africa, they have cultivated something called palm kernel
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  Speaker 2: oil that they've been using for thousands and thousands of years.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they put on their skin on their face
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  Speaker 2: to you know, keep the pores minimized and hydrate, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's also a sun barrier. It just has
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  Speaker 2: when people say what sets your you know, what makes
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  Speaker 1: You Yeah, go ahead, y'all, bet you, y'all get that
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  Speaker 1: right now? All right? Love you, Me, Me, I Love you,
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