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  Speaker 2: All right, Good morning, gang, and welcome to the Airtow podcast,
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  Speaker 2: seen and heard live from Barry Vermont from Flying the
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  Speaker 2: Wall production. It's got an absolutely stellar morning yet again,
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  Speaker 2: and we're looking at temperatures right up into the seventies.
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  Speaker 2: When hiking yesterday, got out, got some fresh air, got
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  Speaker 2: a black fly stuck in the ear, couldn't get it
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  Speaker 2: out halfway down the trail. I'm like doing this, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going cross eyed, but I still loved being outside yesterday
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  Speaker 2: despite the black flies. There were swarms of them. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: do get out today, even if it's during your lunch break,
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  Speaker 2: if you have one, and try to get a breath
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  Speaker 2: of fresh air. Please be careful driving. The construction zones
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  Speaker 2: are up and running. Three two ran into some delays
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  Speaker 2: this morning. We have to try to exercise some patience,
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  Speaker 2: So go easy today, take a deep breath, leave with
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  Speaker 2: plenty of extra time to be where you need to
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  Speaker 2: be on time. Good morning to Sweethearts and Heroes this morning,
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  Speaker 2: Good morning Glenn and Stacey Becky. Uh, top of the
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  Speaker 2: morning to you all. Patfish is sitting right next to me. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: you and I are like just chewing out each other.
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  Speaker 3: Bro already alrighty, it's been fun. So God and some guy, some.
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  Speaker 2: Guy named Thomas Murphy is tuned in the small Boy.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us. You know, obviously we're gonna be talking
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  Speaker 2: about your book, but tell us about Tom. How did
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  Speaker 2: you How did you meet Tom? How did you get
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  Speaker 2: involved with Sweethearts and Heroes?
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  Speaker 3: So I don't want to conflict with any of Tom's stories,
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  Speaker 3: but don't listen. Here's the truth, here's how I have it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about Tom. Listen, he ain't gonna do nothing.
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  Speaker 2: He's on a beach somewhere in the sunshine. He's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be putting either one of us in a
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  Speaker 2: choke hold today. So let go just fly.
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  Speaker 3: So uh where I went to? Uh middle school was
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  Speaker 3: actually one of the first places that Tom presented. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Tom will tell you that he presented at my middle school,
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  Speaker 3: which is true. I wasn't there. I didn't see that presentation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I must have missed that day,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe I had detention or something like that. I
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  Speaker 3: have no idea, but I didn't see the presentation. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, fast forward years and years later, just finishing college,
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  Speaker 3: I'm working at a bar in Glenn's Falls, New York, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: and in walks Tom with my middle school football coach,
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  Speaker 3: and they were there for somebody's you know, birthday party.
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  Speaker 3: I think they were in town speaking at one of
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  Speaker 3: the local schools. And uh, actually, uh my middle school
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  Speaker 3: football coaches who introduced me to Tom and uh introduced
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  Speaker 3: me as the quarterback of the worst football team he's
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  Speaker 3: ever coached. Nice and absolutely true, but he said, no
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  Speaker 3: one quit that team. And like to you know, I
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  Speaker 3: like to think I had something to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: And through Tom and I his conversation, he had me
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  Speaker 3: come check out a presentation. I got the chance to
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  Speaker 3: meet Rick and uh, now we're here.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting. So they were at your school and
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  Speaker 2: you you you missed that presentation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were. You can look it up.
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  Speaker 3: They were one hundred percent there in that time span.
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  Speaker 3: I just you know, if I saw it, I definitely
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  Speaker 3: don't remember it. And I think I would have remembered
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  Speaker 3: a guy with no ears and no nose coming to
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  Speaker 3: my school talking about getting blown up. And yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't miss that much. I mean, my dad was
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  Speaker 3: the principal. I didn't miss that much school, damn fella.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah tough. What middle school?
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  Speaker 2: So where where do you lift?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you from?
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  Speaker 3: So? I live in a town called Boston, Spa. It's
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  Speaker 3: right outside of Saratoga, New York.
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  Speaker 2: All right? Is that where you drove from this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Uh So? Yesterday I was at a school in eastern
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  Speaker 3: Long Island. Uh So Monday and Tuesday I was in
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  Speaker 3: eastern Eastport, South manor Go Sharks. And then I drove up.
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  Speaker 3: I made it as far as Tykonder Rogan, New York. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So that cut it down to about an hour and
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  Speaker 3: a half this morning, which isn't too bad. But it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a journey man, lots of time in the car,
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  Speaker 3: lots of music. It's been fun.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not like you can say to Tom or
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  Speaker 2: Leon or anyone with the Sweethearts and Heroes team, Oh god,
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  Speaker 2: an hour and a half. I just I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I can get up that early and you guys
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  Speaker 2: are all like so passionate about what you do and
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  Speaker 2: you're just doing You're being wherever you need to be,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I like to tell people
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  Speaker 3: that my job, my job is the driving part. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's the part that sucks. Yeah, But when you get
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  Speaker 3: to show up to school and have fun, play games,
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  Speaker 3: get kids out of class, and have conversations with gentlemen
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  Speaker 3: like you like, it's a whole lot of fun. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so I like having fun. So the driving
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  Speaker 3: part not so fun. But once you get to the
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  Speaker 3: place where you're going. We work in connections. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: are job is is to make people connect and I
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  Speaker 3: have fun doing that. You know. We just got to
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  Speaker 3: give from point A to point B to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to I want to lead off this morning
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  Speaker 2: by saying that, you know, and when I dropped the
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  Speaker 2: promo last night, I'm where you see the the book
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  Speaker 2: that you've written, and it's it's but it's about there's
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  Speaker 2: poetry in here. Please don't think, oh God, JD's got
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  Speaker 2: some poet on from mont Pilier this morning. You you are,
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  Speaker 2: you're a different animal here. You are a poet and
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  Speaker 2: an author and a superhero and you're a lot of things, bro.
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  Speaker 3: The author part I laugh at. They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're like eight lines of Peace and my my childhood.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely loved, loved, loved Shel Silverstein books. I was
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  Speaker 3: all about Shell Silverstein as a kid, which is the
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  Speaker 3: one you got to mention because then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: the poets are like, whoa, oh yeah, yeah, no, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're in that's cool. Yes, And then you know, my
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  Speaker 3: second greatest poet of all time is Lil Wayne and
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  Speaker 3: third is Jimmy Buffett. So like it's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's a wide mix of characters that are absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Polish Lil Wayne and Jimmy Buffett in the same sentence.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, both. You know. I think Jimmy Buffett for
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  Speaker 3: his storytelling, yeah, and his sense of humor, and I
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  Speaker 3: think Low Wayne has that sense of humor. But he's
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  Speaker 3: unbelievable with metaphors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting. You know Shel Silverstein. When I was a
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  Speaker 2: little kid, The Giving Tree, Yeah, you just took a
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  Speaker 2: deep breath. When I was a little kid. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who put that book in front of me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I saw it at the library or what,
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  Speaker 2: but it was and I don't even hold I was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing I was probably around to eight, nine ten
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  Speaker 2: somewhere in that ballpark. It was the biggest smack across
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  Speaker 2: my head when I read that book. It was more
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  Speaker 2: it was more profound than anything that had ever happened
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  Speaker 2: to me. That book. I mean, it was the biggest wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of these years go by, teenage years
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  Speaker 2: and even fast forward, and I had forgotten about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I was I don't know if I was in
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  Speaker 2: a bookstore or whatever, but there it was on the shelf,
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  Speaker 2: and just seeing the green cover and the little kid
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  Speaker 2: in the apple and the tree, I was like, WHOA.
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  Speaker 2: And it was something that hit me where I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god. I don't know if I remember the
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  Speaker 2: details of the story, but there was this feeling that
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  Speaker 2: hit me where I was like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was. I don't I still don't know what it was.
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  Speaker 2: But I had to be in my thirties. And I
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  Speaker 2: picked up the book and I flipped through the first
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  Speaker 2: page once there was a tree, and I just started crying.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was in like, I don't know, Barnes
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  Speaker 2: and Noble or something, and I just got through the
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  Speaker 2: first line and it was like this weird something. There
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  Speaker 2: was something somewhere neurons were plugged in somewhere my memory.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but I just got
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  Speaker 2: through the first line and the whole book came to me,
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  Speaker 2: and the feeling of like real love, loving something for
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  Speaker 2: real just flooded me. Man, and I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: like sitting here crying, and Barnes and Noble, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: and I bought the book, brought it home, and that's
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  Speaker 2: like the one book I was like, if I have
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  Speaker 2: a kid someday.
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  Speaker 3: And you want them to appreciate you, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 3: that's what it did for me. I mean flipping through that,
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  Speaker 3: Like I think it was like as you flip through it,
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  Speaker 3: you know you say you love your parents, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it makes you appreciate those people that you know gave
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  Speaker 3: everything for you to be where you're at. That's what
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  Speaker 3: we talk about with sweethearts and heroes, like who's your
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  Speaker 3: sixteenth century bully? Who's that person that if they hadn't
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  Speaker 3: stepped into your life, your life wouldn't be the way
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  Speaker 3: it is today. Wow, that's I mean, that's what that
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  Speaker 3: book's about those trees, and those trees are a long
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  Speaker 3: they're there a long time before the little boy even
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  Speaker 3: steps into the picture. They've been through some stuff. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it all anyways, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, And there's so many different interpretations that people can get,
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  Speaker 2: of course, from.
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  Speaker 3: From it from a short children's book. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And I've read all the you know what people have
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  Speaker 2: to say about that book, but man, it's uh. And
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  Speaker 2: then it's you know what's crazy is you know, I
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  Speaker 2: start in radio and I'm on the air locally and
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  Speaker 2: a couple of schools had reached out to me and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, you know, we're doing some reading stuff and
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  Speaker 2: we'd love, we'd love for you to come to our
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  Speaker 2: school and to you know, read to to the kids.
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  Speaker 2: And it was, it was wonderful and and I loved
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was writing about my dog and my
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  Speaker 2: relationship with my dog, and i'd read some of that
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, do you have anything else?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I'd love to read The Givings
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  Speaker 2: the Giving Tree. Couldn't do it. I couldn't do it
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  Speaker 2: in front of these kids. Yeah. It's like and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: think about baseball, think about baseball, and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: get through it, and it's like, I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder that about Rick.
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  Speaker 3: Rick just put out a children's book this year, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he does it because he's reading
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  Speaker 3: about you know I when Rick tells his or he's
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  Speaker 3: told it so many times and it's a largely individual
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  Speaker 3: story of him, but it's also about the little girl
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  Speaker 3: that gave him hope. Now, this book about Amos is
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  Speaker 3: pet who's you know, no longer around, and that's a
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  Speaker 3: difficult thing to have to deal with, especially when it's
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  Speaker 3: a pet who really was with you for the entire
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  Speaker 3: new change in your life. Like reading that to little kids,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he does it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I'll show him on now, I'll
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  Speaker 2: show him on screen right here. Yeah, same deal, same deal.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's certain things and obviously we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about boredom school here, but I mean there's certain things
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  Speaker 2: that you can't get on Netflix, you can't even get
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  Speaker 2: in a you know, real you just words can be
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  Speaker 2: so impactful and they're permanent, they're printed right there, and
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  Speaker 2: some a lot a lot of stuff you might agree
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  Speaker 2: is that we get filtered through adults and kids. It's
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  Speaker 2: just not really doesn't have the substance to deserve going
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  Speaker 2: back and rereading. But some stuff really really does. And
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're a kid or you know,
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  Speaker 2: if if you have a book like this, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just a children's book. I mean, there's so much something,
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  Speaker 2: so much bigger than a bridge named Amos.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know that it really fit where Rick's
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  Speaker 3: heart is. I think you know Rick's story, Well, it's
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  Speaker 3: impactful for anyone who hears it. I think you know,
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  Speaker 3: at its core, it's that presentation to a group of
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  Speaker 3: first graders who when he first walks in, the kid's
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  Speaker 3: hiding his face, you know, because he sees a big
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  Speaker 3: scary monster up front, right Like that, That's where the
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  Speaker 3: true magic of Rick's message lies. Sure, And I think
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  Speaker 3: you know, you could go and present to a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of adults at some business somewhere and absolutely impact their lives,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely give them some hope, absolutely teach them about dealing
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  Speaker 3: with struggles, challenges and adversity and how you know humor
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  Speaker 3: can help you through it. Because that's really what I
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  Speaker 3: take from Rick in his personal life, Like, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 3: got the biggest sense of humor of anybody I know.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, at its core it's that hey, I
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  Speaker 3: got through this, you can too. And for those little kids,
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  Speaker 3: it's a great message about the sweethearts that help you
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  Speaker 3: through challenges.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about you guys. First of all, I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely love and appreciate my relationship with sweethearts and heroes,
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  Speaker 2: and just a short amount of time, literally a matter
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  Speaker 2: of weeks really, and this was just by chance. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: my wife was like, you know about sweethearts and eros?
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  Speaker 2: My god, how come you don't know? You got to
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  Speaker 2: know about these guys. These guys are the real deal.
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  Speaker 2: They're the big players there.
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  Speaker 3: That's quite a wife impression.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what she sounds like too, I'm telling you
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  Speaker 2: right now. But you know, she like pretty much forced
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  Speaker 2: me right into you guys. And as soon as I
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  Speaker 2: met Tom and Rick, you guys are all the real deal.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who comes in here, who I'm talking with.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are all dead set on trying to have
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  Speaker 2: an impactful experience for our youth. And you guys are
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  Speaker 2: doing it. It's like you're not trying to do it,
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  Speaker 2: You're doing it like Brian was in here just the other.
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  Speaker 3: Day, which is unbelievable because when I first met Brian,
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  Speaker 3: me and him both showed up to the same school
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  Speaker 3: in charge of this program that we were like and
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  Speaker 3: he looks at me and he goes, you do the talking,
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  Speaker 3: I'll do the writing. Oh my god. Great. So he
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  Speaker 3: kind of sat back and wrote stuff down. And so
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  Speaker 3: for him to come get on the microphone and talk
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  Speaker 3: with you, he was like his hands were shaken before
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  Speaker 3: what that's what he said. And and you know, but
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  Speaker 3: I thought he crushed it and he couldn't tell that
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  Speaker 3: he was nervous, which is unbelievable. But if you asked him, Hosy,
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  Speaker 3: I was terrified and.
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  Speaker 2: And loudon too. All of you guys are you guys
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  Speaker 2: are the real the real deal? You're all big hitters.
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  Speaker 2: I know that if Tom or Leon says, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: got this guy coming in, I know that it's it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be somebody who's not just coming in here
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  Speaker 2: with a half assed message. It's it's it's real. And
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  Speaker 2: I I just I just want to say that to
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  Speaker 2: you that I know that no matter who, I have
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  Speaker 2: got on and and we're gonna have a couple of
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  Speaker 2: students on with some some really profound testimony. That's going
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  Speaker 2: to be coming up soon.
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  Speaker 3: You can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait either. And parently, I'm gonna be uh
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  Speaker 2: going to Peru, New York do the podcast to do
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  Speaker 2: that podcast with a couple of high school Yeah, really
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  Speaker 2: linked up with you guys, and I'm a little nervous.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been on a podcast with some high school kids.
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  Speaker 2: Are they gonna cheow me a live?
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  Speaker 3: No, They're gonna do the same exact thing that you
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  Speaker 3: did for all of us, which is make you feel welcome,
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  Speaker 3: make you feel at home. And I actually was on
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  Speaker 3: the very first episode of that and real, yes I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was. Uh they were. They pass around a microphone
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  Speaker 3: so that it mimics our circle practices, right, so that
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  Speaker 3: everyone gets the chance to go. And it's not they
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  Speaker 3: could set up microphones for each student, but that's not
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  Speaker 3: what it's about. It's to ensure that there's no interrupting.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever has it, it's their turn to talk, and everybody
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  Speaker 3: else just has to listen. And uh interest, I had
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  Speaker 3: a little fish in my backpack and they taped it
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  Speaker 3: around to block the microphone and the fish perspective podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's not where they were already planning on calling it that,
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  Speaker 3: but they were. It's uh yeah. I think it did
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  Speaker 3: a nice little job and it stuck sense.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, if they're used in the word fish, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: get some royalties here.
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's not after the last name. Man, it's not
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  Speaker 3: after the last name.
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  Speaker 2: But listen your book. It says here A Boredom School
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  Speaker 2: for those board in school is a playful and profound
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  Speaker 2: look at the trials of school life and the students
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  Speaker 2: stuck in the status quo followed the new kid on
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  Speaker 2: a quest to rewrite the rules and create a culture
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  Speaker 2: of hope, action and belonging. Did you know you were
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  Speaker 2: going to write this book?
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  Speaker 5: Is this?
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  Speaker 2: It's this book about you.
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  Speaker 3: In parts. I think what's really the nice part about
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  Speaker 3: having it be a poetry book is just like in
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  Speaker 3: an album, you know, some songs can fit the narrative.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think that there's a connecting storyline throughout
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  Speaker 3: it that's very noticeable if you read it from front
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  Speaker 3: to back. But if you were to just pick out
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  Speaker 3: individual poems, I'd say some of them have to do
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  Speaker 3: with my childhood. You know, there's one in there about
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: a kid playing baseball in the backyard by himself, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I used to do that NonStop, you know, no ball,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: just pretending I was the hitter, pretending I was the pictures,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know, ninth inning pressures on the line, you fake
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: run around the imagination side of things.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: They're actually using your imagination.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the you know, there's a true story in there
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: about a goat eating my homework that happened when I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: was in I think second grade. So there's a lot
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of that have to actually.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Do with me.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: But then overwhelmingly, it's the students that I've met over
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the last you know, six seven years, where I've just
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: had the opportunity to hear some really amazing things from
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: some really amazing young people. The New Kid is based
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: off of a multitude of new kids that I've met
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: at different schools. Primarily there's one who's been the new
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: kid ten times. Yeah, meet him when he was in
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: eighth grade. Yep, He's been all over the place, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you know, talking with that young man and hearing about
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: his experience. He's finally out of school that he's been
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: at for three years and just getting to know him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Over the past three years, he's really started to change
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that culture. And a lot of those poems were written
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: about him doing that before he even did it. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: it's been really neat to watch him turn into that
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: character because I saw it. Because I saw it. Yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I told him I had the opportunity last year to
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: do a circle in his school and in his classroom,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and I was really hoping he was going to be there,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: because you know, there's no saying It's not like I'm
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: just going to message his school and say, hey, is
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: this one specific student still at this school. So you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I was hoping that I was going to have his class.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And when I showed up, he was in there, and I,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: you know, just introduced the book, which I try not
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: to plug too much when I'm doing circles because that's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: not what I'm there for. But I got to introduce
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: it and just say, hey, you know, some of this
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: is based on a young man right here in this class,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and I got to give him one of the books.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And it was a really neat moment for me and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: hopefully for him as well.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, so it's just the kid who is in your
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: book that's moving frequently. Yeah, So I going six.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: The first six poems are really trying to set the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: narrative of a young man who's been in and out
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: of different schools, troubled home life, you know, a story
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that we've seen in lots of young people. And then
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: from there it introduces the place boredom school where kids
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: are bored and school and introduces some of the staff.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: And there's some playful things about some of the teacher
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: stories that I've heard, and you know, I think one
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: of them in there is math teachers teach math, science,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: teachers teach science, fun teachers teach kids more teachers should
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: try it. And you know, there's just some little playful
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: ones about some of the teachers in there. But you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: as we move forward, you get to see how this
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: young man who's been in all different schools steps into
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: this school that is so boring and goes, hey, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: know this. You say this school is boring. I have
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: no reason to doubt it, but it's boring because you
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: haven't done anything about it. And he's the one who
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: comes in and starts making things a little bit fun.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And that's the piece where I do think has to
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: do a little bit with me because I was not
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: your high grade student. I was smart, I wasn't really
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: interested in the school game. But what I was interested
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: in was I hope, you know, being kind to others,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: still having fun. I definitely distracted my teachers way too much.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But you know, making people connect can be fun, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: giving people hope can be fun, and it turns out
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: that that is a real job.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So man, you know, I'm just listening to you, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of myself when I was in third grade
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and the things that that I did when the teacher
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't looking.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: And well, what's your best one? Let's hear one.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: The best one was teacher stepped out third grade, miss
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: uh stepped out of the class for a minute. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, here's the thing, man, It's like, and this
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: is still who I am. I like to make people laugh.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I love to entertain. I love to if if someone's laughing,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it makes me feel good too. So that's just, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's just who I am. I think I still was then.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And what can I do. I have an opportunity here
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the teacher has stepped out. If an opportunity, I'm bored
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: with all of the same shit that's coming down the pipe.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I want to change it up. I want to have
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: some fun. Let's loosen things up a little bit around here.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So quickly, I have to make a decision. So Missus
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Rockwell walks out and I look up and in the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: ceiling in our classroom was steel eye beams. So if
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I stand on my desk and I jump, what are
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the odds that I'll be able to connect my hands
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: around that ibeam? Pretty good odds. I think I can
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: do it. And by god, I did that, and I
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: got the I beam and then I pulled my feet
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: up onto the ibam as well. So I'm cradling the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I beam like Tom Cruise. Yeah, just you know, a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of Tom and a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: little bit of Tarzani and maybe yeah, you know. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: people were laughing. They thought it was great. I'm swinging
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: from the ibeam. So Missus Rockwell walks back in and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you know, in the principal's office, I was this a
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: long time ago.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: This was.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Nineteen I want to say nineteen, uh thinking here something
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: seventy nine, seventy nine, okay, seventy eight somewhere in there.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe earlier. But you know, the principals at schools
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: back then, no fooling around. No, it's different. They weren't
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: worried about saying something to you that would hurt your
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: feelings that you go home and tell mom and dad
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: about you were held accountable. Yeah, and I remember sitting
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: in the principal's office, mister DeVault. Isn't amazing how here
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: we are fifty four years old? Remember these names?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? They just pop right back up.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You know, we always say, you know, you remember that
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: kid from your grade that wasn't treated the right way.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: You know, you probably remember those teachers that made an impact.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: You probably may remember some of those teachers that did not,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: or the opposite, made an impact in a negative way.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And it's it's funny how that works. Yes, you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I could sit here and do it and you people
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: might be like, okay, well that wasn't that long ago.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: But sure.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: You know, I've talked with people that are you know, retired,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: people that are you know, very very old. They can remember.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That kid.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, you know, they can remember that teacher.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: So it's really kind of fascinating how it works. He
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: said to me, Remember, like I could still hear it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: You know that I know your mom and dad very well,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: and I will call them right now and but I'll
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: tell you what they're going to say to you, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they're going to say to me.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh boy, here we go. And he's
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: going to say, or he said they're going to say,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and he knew my parents, both of them very well.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: They're going to say that they're very disappointed.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's toughly, it's tough when you're a kid.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Bro, That's not what I wanted to hear. It would
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have been a lot easier to hear. They're going to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: say that you're rounded for a week, and you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that's easier to digest. But disappointed tough word. And so
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to explain, Hey, man, I didn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: mean any harm. I'm just playing around. I'm kind of bored.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just playing around, just trying to have some fun.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: But it had to be explained to me that that's fine.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Do that, but do that at the playground. There's a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: time and place for everything. Come on, man, you know better,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what's say? Pet fish?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I think my biggest one had to be I was
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: actually on a radio station that morning my high school,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: where I learned about things like community culture, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a really tight knit community in my belief. But we
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: have this charity event that dances for twenty eight hours
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: and it's been going on every year since nineteen seventy eight. Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: raised one of the highest raising student run charities in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the country and I got to be a part of
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: that growing up. It's amazing they do it for people
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: in need. And I saw, you know, these posters on
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: the outside. It's what we're trying to do with these
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: community days, you know, trying to start to build some
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: of that tight knit community and some places that have
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: it and some places that are working towards having that
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: stronger sense of community. And anyways, we go to this
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: radio station and I was one of like the student
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: chairs for it, you know, help and run it. And
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it was red and Blue day because that was our
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: school colors. And I decided to put on some red
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Long John's blue shirt and then a pair of white
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: tidy whities over the top of the Long John's. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: when I got to the school that day, it's awesome.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I got in trouble for wearing underwear to school, of
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: course you did, which I don't know. It was like, yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: we read Captain Underpants in like third grade. You know
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: what I mean, So I don't know. But then they
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: found out that I was on the radio and they
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: were like, you were what And I was like, guys,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: it's the radio. You can't see the underpants the radio.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: And they're like, but they talked about it and turned
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: into this whole thing. But yeah, brother, yeah, you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: just having fun. And I think that's one of the
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: great things about school is you get a bunch of
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: board kids together, and if you know they're not all
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: stuck on these things, then all of a sudden you
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: start to watch is they start to come up with
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: something to do to relieve that boredom, and that's where
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: creativity starts to emerge.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Isn't it remarkable how I know you and I are
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: freestyling here, we're all over the road. But isn't it
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: amazing how you hear actress and actresses and people who
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: are just unbelievably successful in life often say didn't really
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: like school, wasn't really a great student. I was bored
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in school, or I found school boring, or I found
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: school to be a waste of time. I couldn't wait
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to graduate from high school so that I could just
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: get on with it and didn't go to college.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Isn't that remarkable though, It's fascinating. I think, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: a big piece of that is that's the arts, right,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: So if you're involved in the arts. I'm not saying
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: everybody was involved in the arts hated school, but there's
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: that side of the brain that doesn't exactly love the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: structure piece absolutely, and I think that, you know, those
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: people that do love the school game and do love
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: focusing in. I walked by a group of students I
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: think on Monday, yeah, and they're all sitting in the hallway.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what do y'all do? And and they're like,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: we're on a break for our test, and I'm like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: what's the test? They go ap calculus and I went oop, Yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I'm getting out of here. That does That doesn't sound
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: like anything that I can handle. But those are the people,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Those are the people that are going to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: cure cancer. Those are the kids that are going to
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: do some really amazing things. And I think, as we
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: were talking about earlier, with the differences between myself and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: a guy like Leon who does a lot of our
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: structure stuff, it's you need both superpowers. Yeah, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: there's a reason the Avengers formed, and it's because you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they all have these different powers and if you can
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: put them all together, then we have a strong community then.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing with these kids.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: You know, you're getting groups of kids together to work
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: together on something to help their community.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Tom says, everyone's got that side of the brain. But
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: does Tom know is it the left or is it
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the right? I don't know what's leftist. I don't know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Tom's I think tapped into both.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I think so too. I think you know who say
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: that he's extremely scatter brains. Sometimes I don't think that's
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the case. I think he pushes his brain to a
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: different level. There's no sleeping with that guy, no, no,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: you know so, I think because of that, that's what
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: might cause the scatter brained feeling for him. But usually
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: when you talk to him, he's like, sorry, man, I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: all over the place. I got a hundred things going on.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, you just answered it right there. You
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: have one hundred things going on, you know what I mean?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: You're not. He's a focused.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Guy's I'm the same exact way, Yeah, the same exact
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: way Tom. Tom needs to learn. We all need to
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: learn Tom. Tom needs to learn the to do list.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Once you learn to tie shoes, and you know two
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: plus two, there are only two things that you have
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: left to do. One of those things is what others
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: ask you to do, and the other thing is what
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you want to do. Boom, mic drop. That's it. Tom
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: needs to he needs to. He needs to have that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: page open all the time. He does he does.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I'm laughing over here because I'm like, God, that's that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Tom Man.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: He's just Captain ADHD.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think, I I can't remember. I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: what ends up happening is I tell Tom something, or
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: someone tells Tom something, and sometimes right away he's like okay,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: but more often than not, it's a couple of months
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: down the line he's like, got it. Yeah, here's the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: game plan. You're like, all right, you know, But everyone
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: takes their own route to get to whatever their game
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: plan is going to be. And I think that one
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: of the things I can always say about sweethearts and
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: heroes that's amazing is you know, sometimes it might feel
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: like we're moving in a million different directions, true, but
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: we're going a million miles per hour in those different directions,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and we're not gonna stop working. And that's the part
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: about sweethearts and heroes that I love is like, this
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: isn't your We're gonna show up. Okay, let's let's put
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a pin in it. Yeah, and we'll talk about this
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: in a week. I learned very quickly that's not how
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: this works. And if I am like, oh well, I
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: don't know about this, well, in the next week, somebody
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: else is gonna do it. Yeah, right, and then I'm
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: gonna be the one chasing after it, going wait, what
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: are we doing here?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Wait?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, so hit the brakes here, so
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta keep moving because this it's a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: this ship is going full steam ahead.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Not not to be weird here, but it's like you
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: and Louden and and Brian and Rick, Tom, all of you.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, I really see that you guys are like superheroes.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: You guys are like doing things like you just said
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that nobody else is doing. I mean, it's really aggressive
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: what you guys are doing. You're like, no, we're not
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: gonna sit back and just let kids process the same
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: regurgitated crap that's coming down. This is a different world
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's going on right now, and we need to get
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: involved with not only schools, but we really need to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with these kids and give them some tools.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Because they're the ones that are going to make the difference.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: God amen, you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Know, they're the ones that are going to look out
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: for people. They're the ones that are going to help people.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I'm super excited. Tomorrow I go
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to Tae Kondo Roga, which is one of my favorite
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: places to go in the entire world. Haley, who's going
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to be on here eventually, is from Taekwonder Roga.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Can't wait.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: This group of students when I first got there to
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: run a Brave program where they go down and work
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: with some of the elementary students on things like jumping
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: into actions, stopping bullying, all that good stuff. Sure I
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: first showed up, and the vulnerability that these kids had
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the ability to tell stories. I mean, my man, Carter,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: it was a freshman and first days telling stories to
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: all of us about like, well, you know, I peed
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: my pants once on a field trip. And you're like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: who's brave enough to say that? You know, who's brave
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: enough to just put themselves out there and show that
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: superpower that they have, and I realize that's just a
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: part of their community. And community is a little bit
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: different everywhere, and there's different things that can break apart community,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: whether it's the size of it. You know, I go
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: down to a school like I was just at, there's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: so many kids at that school. It takes me two
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: days to get through the ninth grade. Wow, twenty students,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: twenty students, twenty students, twenty students building community, And that
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: is a lot different than building community at a school
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: like shazy New York, where you have ten to twenty
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: kids per grade level. Sure be a little bit more
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: tight neat, But things like poverty can influence your community.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Things like tragedy can influence your community. But you can
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: take those bad things that happen, yeah, and let it
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: wreck community, or you can turn it into it superpower.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: When you have this many kids in front of you,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and I ask the same thing of Tom and everyone else,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: can you, you guys see hardship. You'll you'll see a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: student and you see them looking at you. You're looking
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: at them, and you know right away, this kid's busted.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: There's something that's not that. This kid is carrying some
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: weight right now. I'm guessing that you see that all
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: For me.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of there's a lot of research
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: behind people that have experienced trauma. You can either let
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: it get you or down the line, a lot of
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: those people who have experienced trauma become the best people
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: for help helping others based on what they've been through.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Tom says that, And you know, I had it happen
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: this week. So I'm down on Long Island, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: for the weekend. My fiance is from down there, so
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: you know, we get to spend Mother's Day with her mom,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: which was great. And Monday, I'm going to be going
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: down to this school, massive school, really tough for kids
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to become connected with their whole grade level because there's
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: so many students in this grade level. And Sunday night
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I find out my grandma passes. So I'm having a
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: tough day. You know, I'm rolling out of bed and
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: usually I say, you know, how are you doing? Amazing? Amazing, amazing,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And my first amazing came out and I went ooh,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't like that. That felt fake. So I said,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing it, and I you know, first
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: group of the day I had, like too many kids
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: showed up. They accidentally sent two classes, so we had
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: about forty five kids in this room. And I went,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: all right, I know y'all like to have fun, so
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: let's have some fun. I'm not going to try and
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: be mean. But if I don't have the energy I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: usually have, I apologize. Yes, And we had a lot
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: of fun, probably too much fun, you know, chaos. We're
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: playing all these games, throwing cups everywhere, hooplies a really
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: fun one. We'll have to show you that one sometime.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: But it gets done. And I'm just like, Okay, this
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: group's done. And all these kids bell rings. You know
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: how it goes in school second bell rings, doesn't matter
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: how fun. What you're doing is boom, because you got
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: to go, you know, kiss your girlfriend, You got to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: go get this bag from your locker. You you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: didn't take your morning dump, whatever it might be. You
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: got to get out of there. I completely understand it. Yes,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: And these two young ladies who have helped out throughout
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: the year just sat there and then went, pat come here,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and I come over and I sit down and they go, well,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: was she like? I'm like, and these two young ladies
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: have been through some tough stuff. You know, they've dealt
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: with some serious stuff and they knew they just saw
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: from the look of it, that's not the normal. Pat
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: You got caught, Bro, I got caught and I started
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: crying right there in front of these students. I'm tearing
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: up right now thinking about it. But these are students
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: that are in a school where they say, you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: this connection thing isn't happening because there's so many students here.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: But they know how to do it because they've been
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: through it and they've experienced it within their own communities,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: their family communities, their church communities, whatever, their community, their
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: team communities, those communities that they have, that's where they've
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: learned the superpowers of helping other people, giving hope, you know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Dun Yeah, Wow, I want to I want to just
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: tell you about my morning and get your get your
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: take on this. And I know Tom's listening this morning,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and I really want to hear what he has to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: say about this too. One of the things that I've
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: said to Tom and everyone Loud and Brian Rick so far,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and they say the same We've all said the same
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: thing is that kids today begin their days differently than
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: we did thirty forty years ago. I don't know why,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: but it's it's just different.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: We have.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Devices, we have cell phones, we have different media. One
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: of the first things we do in the morning is
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: we power it up and bang, right there in front
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: of us is the bad news. There's so much of it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: When I was a little kidd do you check, do
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you dude? I do you know? I'm guilty of it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: It's and it's like, I want to know what's Facebook, Instagram,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: what your yes, both, all all the above, and I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: just I want to see what's going on. And a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: lot of the times I'm like I can go in
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and hop on the mic and relay this this stuff.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: People want to know what's going on, good or bad.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: But it's.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: It's you know, already, we got stuff that's starting to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: stick to our bones already. Some of us haven't even
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: gotten out of bed yet, and we're like, oh my god,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: oh my god, look at this, either locally or worldwide.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Oh look at what's happened. Oh this, you know, and
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: kids are they're carrying that even subliminally, or there's something
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: going on at home, no matter what it is. Their
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: dog is sick, their parents are fighting whatever it may
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: be this morning, and they bring that to school. They
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: bring that to school, and some kids quietly, it's renting
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: space in their mind throughout the day. This morning was
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: a morning that I won't forget, beautiful sunny day. Lily
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and I are up, we're getting ready to go to school.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: She goes out, she's letting the the chickens out of
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the out of the coop and she comes running in
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the house. Dad, there's a blue jay that's stuck in
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the chicken coop and I gotta rescue this thing. And
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like right away. Instantly, I'm like, no time, We're
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: late for school, gotta go. And she's like, yeah, but Dad,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: this you know, I'll take care of it. After I
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: bring you to school, I'll come back to the house.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I'll take care of the stuck blue jay. You you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: need to get your shoes on, You need to get
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Do you have the stuff that you need? Do you
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: have your backpack? Do you have the stuff that you
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: need for school today? But Bob, don't forget about softball
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: practice afterwards. You got your bat, your glove. Dad, come on,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, hang on a second, I'm just
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: trying to tap the brakes. I'm like, WHOA. All of
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm like, there's an opportunity. Here's what's most important.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what's most important. That we're
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: on time for school or that she has this experience.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, this it flushed over me.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't give a damn if we're running
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: late for school for whatever, it takes ten to fifteen
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: minutes whatever. Let her do this. Let her have this experience. Man.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: So she did, and I just said, just forget about
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: it for being on time. I'm for school. School's not
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. It's not going to be that big of
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a deal. Let this is important. It's more important. So
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: she went out there, and long story short, she rescued
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the blue jay, got the blue jay, brought it out.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I've taken video of it, taking pictures of it. And
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: she got the blue jay in her hand and she's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: holding it, she's cradling it, and I'm like, let's just
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: take some time because I've never had a blue jay
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: in my hands. This is a beautiful bird. Take your
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: time and look up close at the markings and look
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: at this long black beak. Isn't that amazing? Look at
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: this bird up close. Enjoy this moment, take your time,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: don't forget that I know. And then she starts in
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: with well, d you know, we are kind of running
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a little late, and I'm like, whoa, whoa wow. Just
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: forget about school for for a second, just to enjoy this.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Look at this bird. This is beautiful.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Forget about the stresses.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Forget about the stresses. I think one of the what's
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: say you about the let's hit pat fish on here
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: and and Tom too. I want to I want to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: hear what you guys have to say about this.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I think one of you'll see where I'm going with this.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: But I think one of the biggest disservices done in
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: music history is the portrayal of Bob Marley as a pothead.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I don't he smoked for religious purposes. And that's besides
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the point of the conversation. But as you were talking
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: about it, I thought of the song three Little Birds, right,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And that whole song is about that patience, right. Uh,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Three little birds sitting on your doorstep, singing sweet songs,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: melodies pure and true. This is our message to you.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Everything's gonna be all right, everything's fine, it's all good.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And you know, too much, we get caught in this
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: world of okay, we got this, oh you got this
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: coming up, and you know, let it stress you out
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: and gotta go. Yeah, there's a There's an amazing study
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that was done at Bringham Young University on seminary students,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: and what they did was they took these seminary students
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: and half the group they had them they were all
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: going to give a sermon on loving that neighborly and
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: half the study group. What they did was they told them, hey,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you got to get over there. You're running a little late.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It's gonna start the other group there like you got
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: all the time in the world now for everyone. What
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: they did was they had an actor playing a homeless
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: guy asking for money on their walkover, and they found
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: overwhelmingly that the group that actually had the time and
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the patience to be able to stop have a conversation
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: not only were they giving money, but a lot of
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: them ended up talking about this interaction that they had
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: had in their sermons, whereas overwhelmingly the group that was
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: rushed walked right by. And there's a home in there
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: called three minute walks, and it's all about, Hey, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: we're expecting our young people to stick up for each
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: other and all they got is three minute walks and
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: from one bell to the next. And when you have
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: a test coming up, your girlfriend just broke up with you.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: You're not sure if you're gonna make the sports team.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And on top of that, you and your dad are
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: fighting about you know, the fact that you have dishes
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: in the sink, and you see somebody getting treated the
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: wrong way, who's going through hell on their own.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that you don't know about.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: That you don't even know about, and you see that happening,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: you're gonna walk right by because you have so many
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: things going on.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: But if you just take the time and really, hey,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: you know, everything's going to be all right. These aren't
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the biggest dressers in the world. You need to remember that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: It's a difficult thing. But you know, we portray those
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: people as poeheads like Bob Marley, right, you know, Fool
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: on the Hill and the Beatles. That's what that song
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: is about, you know, it's about you know, those people
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: that are on the outside looking in that are like, hey,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: some of this stuff is crazy. What do we doing here.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Sure those people might have it figured out sometimes Yeah, Wow,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you's got to let something else.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Damn h.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Because we're so freestyle here and I know we're all
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: over the road, but I just have to ask you this,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: and obviously I want to hear what Tom has to
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: say to here's this experience. Listen, I'm shifting a major
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: gear here. Yeah, I understand, and I'm changing. I'm ready
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: changing this. I know you are, but I don't. I
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: want to hear what you have to say about this
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: because this kind of stuff has happened to me before. Here.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: We always have this great experience. We're late, but I'm
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: not stressing about it. Lily's not stressing about it. She
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: walked out. She helped this, this blue jay in her
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: hand for quite a while. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: fly away. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: She's like, Dad, it's not flying away. My hand is open.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not covering it down with my other hand. It's
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: just sitting there on the top of my hand. Is
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: it injured. It's not injured. It's very healthy. It's just processing.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: It's freedom. It will take flight.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Be patient.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: We're in no rush. Take a time. Yeah, but dad,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: it's not flying. Yeah. We went through that for quite
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a while and I said, I'm telling you any second now,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: bang it's gone. Once it realizes, and sure enough that
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: exact thing happened, and it took off right out of
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: her hand, and she watched her fly up to the tree.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And she, of course ten years old, she had to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: name it, Louis, it's a great question.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I would ask that to kids. If a bird flew
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: into your hands, what would you name it?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Will you ask that?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: No?
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I would ask that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, will you ask that of kids? When next
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: time you come.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: On, literally the next school I go to, I will
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: ask I'm in sale. I'm doing circles on Friday, so
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: tae kwonder roga. We have community today tomorrow, so I
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: won't be doing any circles Friday, very first group. I'll
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: send it to aired out. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: get it on video for you. I'll say, bluebird flies
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: in your hand? What are you naming it? Why?
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Louis hanging out up in the tree. Uh,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: chirpin happy, she's watching it. Everything's great.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: She was so happy.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw something at
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you here that you're probably not expecting. And I want
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: to see how you react. And I want to see
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: what Time and Rick have to say about this too.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: She's so happy, beaming, smile, So why we get in
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the car, turn the key on radios? On radios on
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: pretty loud. She's all smiles. Instantly when the radio comes on,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: we hear the news because it's eight o'clock now, National
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: News is just hitting the radio, and the volume was
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: already up, and she hears the words twenty children died
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: in Gaza yesterday from all the fighting, and that freaking
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: smile vanished from her face in a half a second.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Pat gone, and she.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Looked at the radio. Her eyes went right to the radio.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And it was like, I can't even I can't even
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: imitate the look on her face, but it was and
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: she just looked at the radio and she and I
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, And I reached up and when
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I went and I shut the radio off, and I'm like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: uh oh, and she was quiet. We're pulling out of
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: the driveway. There's probably I don't know, maybe fifteen seconds
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: of silence where I'm going what do I do? What
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: do I say? And I said, that was unbelievable that
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: you rescued that blue jay and that it flew away
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: like that. You're a hero. I mean, this is incredible.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: What an experience. I've never had a chance to hold
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: a blue jay in my life. Way to Mommy sees
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: the pictures that I took, and I look over at
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: her and she's silent, and she's looking out the window
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: to the right, and there's like a good ten to
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: fifteen seconds of silence, and then she goes, dad, ah, shit,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: here it comes. Why are kids dying from fighting? She
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't know what fighting? She doesn't know war. She heard
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: the f word fighting. Why are kids dying from fighting?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: What did they do?
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: That?
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Fucked up the rest of the drive to school in
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the morning, Pat, You've had, dude, roller coaster?
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, how do I how do I? Uh,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: how do I? How do I steer through this?
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: What do I?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: What do I say?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Before she gets out of my car and walks into school, Tom,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: what say you butt? Are you there out here? Yeah?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: What say you? Pow? What are you saying? Are you there.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you hear me? Tom?
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: Oh? Shoot? Yeah? I'm on, Yeah, you're live, but oh shoot,
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: I want to hear a Pet had to say first.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Well, let's take it to Pat first, and then you yeah, man,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: all right, go Pat.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I that's it's such a roller coaster. As you said,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Hi Tom. By the way, you know, I I got
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: this brother in law or soon to be brother in
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: law once I get married this summer. But he works
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: out in the Coast Guard in Washington and he had
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: his very first this is in the past week. You know.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: That's they go on those big cutter boats to save
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: people once they've gone overboard and so self correcting mechanisms.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: He's been there for about a year, and usually once
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: you've been there for a year, you've seen your first death. Yeah,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: he saw his first one this week.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: And I think what's amazing that they do is, you know,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: because they're so prepared for it, because they've dealt with
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: it so much on this base where you know, you
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: go out and save people. They're not always going to
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: make it's a dangerous job. Sure, they're very prepared when
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: it comes to dealing with that trauma of you got
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: all these eighteen to twenty four year old you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: young men seeing their first ever dead body. It's a scary,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: scary thing. And so he went out this past week
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: and a boat was essentially leaking from the bottom. Uh
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: and four men on the boat. They save three captain
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: went down.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: With the ship.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Very real story, This real story just just happened. This
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: just happened. I mean, you can look up the story
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Coast Guarden. I know he lives in Olympia, Washington, so
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: it's whatever the base is coming off of Washington. But they,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: you know, a boat of four. The captain didn't make it.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: But on the FaceTime with him, you know, his sister's
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: all worried, his mom's all worried because I was spending
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Mother's Day with them, and they're like, how's he gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: deal with that? And the way that he's dealt with
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: that is he's got these brothers. You know, he's got
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: these brothers that have experienced that are saying, hey, you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: putting their arm around him, and hey, this is how
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: we deal with it. And they deal with it with
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: you know, some of them have a sixth sense of humor.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sure sure you know, because when you've been through
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: tough stuff, asked Rick, you can make jokes about that
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: tough stuff that you've been through. But they're there for him.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: And I think what's so difficult about hearing a situation
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: like that, especially as a young kid, even as an adult.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: You know me, you hear about what's going on in Gaza,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: and I can't put my arms around him. You know,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: you can't go over there and give somebody a free hug.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I'm here with you, and you know, we have these
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: inner groups, and you're more likely to give that empathy
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: to the people that you care about, you know, the
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: people that are around you, and we can help those
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: people that we get to see. Sure, I met a
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: guy this morning waiting outside your studio that came by
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: and gave a hug to that guy, and but you
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: really yeah, yeah, I was sitting on the bench waiting
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: for I was looking inside your studio and a guy
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: came by, and I don't know, you know what he
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: was going to use it for. I only had two
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: bucks in my pocket, but he'll give him. And that's
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: not to brag or anything like that. It was two dollars,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: but it led to a neat interesting conversation. I got
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: to give that guy a hug, and you know, maybe
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: help him out, but I can't do that all the
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: way over there. And if I do, is it who's
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: a helping? What's it helping? It's that's what's so challenging
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: about that for me, and especially you know, through the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: eyes of a ten year old that doesn't even understand
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: it at my level, which isn't a high level like
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even understand what war is. Yeah, and just
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: here's the word fighting.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Just here's the word fighting. And whereas you know, the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: boys in her class are like Fortnite, that's what war is. Right,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: We're shooting each other. This stuff's fun and it's not
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Tom How are we doing? Man?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Oh man, Pat, you just blew my mind? And a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: couple of things I was playing, will you yeah? Can
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: you hear me?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you just blew my mind and a couple
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: of things.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Pat.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: Let me first say, j D, what a special young
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: man Pat Fish is.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: And he's becoming an old man now, but you know
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: he Man have so many things I want to say,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: and Pat knows I'll ramble for an hour if you'll
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: let me, but I'll try and make this pretty tight.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: And you know, the one thing Pat left out of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: his story. When I first met him with his Jim teacher,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: his football coach. You know, the guy looked across and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: he said, you know who that is and I said,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: I said, no, not at all. He said that's Pat
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Fish and I said, oh, Mark Son. He said yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: and he said he made his whole class batter and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Pat graduated with three hundred young people. And I said,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I got to meet this guy. And that's the kind
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: of young man that you're sitting there with is he
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: just makes people better, the good, the bad, the ugly.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: He just makes them all better.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: And you know that makes me want to choke up
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: because I know what he does every day out there
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: in the field. But JD, I love your story. I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: got a blue Jay story. You need to look up
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: blue Jays, google it and you'll see what the meaning
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: of a blue jay is. I'll save that for you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: later on, but I just had a blue Jay story
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: myself that would take too long to tell.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: You just rocked me when you brought up blue Jays.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: I'm like, this is impossible.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about blue Jay's and des Moine
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: next week to Linemen, and much like our children today
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: that are facing unprecedented destructive decisions. Linemen that bring power
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: to our nation are facing the same, maybe even at
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: a greater rate. Grown men huge But you know, just
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: to kind of pull your story together and give you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: what I believe the answer is, and it's what you've
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: been talking about here. You know, Alexander Solzenisen wrote The
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Gulag Archipelago and he said, the battle between.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: Good and evil runs down through the center of every
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: human heart.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: And what you're talking about, and not to get biblical
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: on you, but it's from the very first chapter in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: the Book of Genesis, and it's not a religious thing.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: But from day one we've been fighting good and evil
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: and we're still doing the same fight. It's the same
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: exact fight. You have life in your hand in one minute,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: and the next minute, your daughter's being exposed to the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: unimagined tragedy, the unimaginable. And what I say to you, JD,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: is what an opportunity, What an opportunity to connect the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: two because unfortunately in our society, we run and we
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: hide a lot of this stuff from children.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Now I have four kids, and I know what is
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: age appropriate and what isn't. But when your daughter's exposed
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: to something like that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: We can't run from it, we can't hide it, we
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: can't wish it didn't happen, because it happened. And rick
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Yaris taught me that. He said, do you do you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: think he says to kids all the time? Do you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: think I wanted to get blown up? Of course not,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: but it happened. And what an opportunity to share with
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: your daughter the love that she had in her hand,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: that when she gets a little bit older, she could
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: bring to those children, and she'll be the one that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: changes the world, not you, not me, not pat fish her.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Because our children are not our future. We have to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: stop telling our elves that they are our present. It
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: is our job to shepherd them, and it's our job
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: to when they discover and they feel that love, it's to.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Teach them that that is the answer.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: And a lot of potheads wrote about that one right
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: there and sung about that one right there.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: But that's the answer. It's love. It's loving your neighbor.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: That crazy jew that ran around the hills of Judea
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: tried to teach us that one years ago, and guess what,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: we didn't want to hear it, so we put him
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: up on a cross.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: If that whole story is true. But that's the answer,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: and that's what Pat Fish is doing.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: And JD, that's what you're doing by giving us this
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: wonderful opportunity to share some of these these great stories
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: and messages.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: So thank you, buddy, Thanks brother. What a guy. Huh.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: He knows what he's saying.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: He does, he does.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Jeez.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he just pops out with random stuff and I'm like, dude,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: where did that come from?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah know yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile I'm bringing up like little Wayne quotes.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: And right, I think it's coming from the right side though.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: What a what a guy. Listen, man, where do we
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: get your book?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Where do we.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: The illustration, by the way, is amazing.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: That's Kevin Cannon. Shout out Kevin Cannon. He's a He
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: actually illustrated Rick's book as well. He's an elementary art teacher.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: We found him in O. E. S j Uh school district.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say the words out loud because
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: I butchered the pronunciation of their school district every single
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: time I try and say it. So Oe s j
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I know that the wolves, but yeah, yeah, uh. He's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: an awesome art teacher who's just been super involved with
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: us and you know, he was right along with me,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: and you know, I would talk with him and I'm like,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: we got to make this fun. So that's why there's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: p I on the front cover, and you know, people
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: writing on the stalls and all that good stuff. But
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: if you want the book, you can check that out.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: You know, Sweethearts and Heroes dot Com can get you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: access to any of our books as well. It's on
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Amazon just Boredom School for those board in school. And
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: I really think at first, you know, it was a
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: book that I thought would fit in, like, you know,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: middle school. There's some high school lessons, because I don't
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: know how to write for a certain audience, a certain
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: age group. But I've just been fascinated with who connects
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: with what, And I think some poems connect more with
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: older kids, some connects better with younger kids. I think
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: one of the I had a teacher this year who
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: has a special education classroom of high schoolers, and she
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: told me that they were reading it this year for
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: their you know, for their group book, and they loved
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: it because socially, as you know, socially, a lot of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: the people that have special needs are they have the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: same social issues that we do, but we don't want
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: to talk about. Okay, you know, they're sexually interested in
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: other people. There's breakups and there's because we're like, no,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: they're different than us, but they go through a lot
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: of the same feelings that we go through and instead
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: of just kind of fit their reading level a little
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: bit better because they have you know, they might have
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: a different reading level than some of us. But I've
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: found that no matter who you are, there's at least
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: one poem in there that'll make you smile. And that's
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: what we're trying to do.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Rick just dropped a comment here saying Tom has no
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: clue what he's saying. What the hell is that all?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: That's a general consensus by myself and Rick. I love him.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's what works so well. And the reason
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: that Tom and Rick didn't kill each other for the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: first you know, ten to fifteen years before I even
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: showed up, is that Tom can get very very serious
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: about this stuff because he truly believes in all of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: this stuff. And that's a great, great superpower that he has.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: But a guy like Rick, if you're not all for
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: you know, the quotes from this guy and the super
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: you know, high intellectual stuff, and then Rick will go
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: all right, dude, chill, who's your favorite football team? Let's talk.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Let's let's let's And I think that balance, you know,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: that's it's an important balance to have. It's the you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: the Justice League, the Avengers. You know, you have different superpowers. Yeah,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why we as a group come
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: together so well, and why having a guy like you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: bring us on here and help us out is such
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: an amazing thing, because you know your superpowers that you
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: can talk, you know, you got the gift of gab,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: and you coming on here with us and allowing us
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: to spread our message with you is a really amazing thing.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: So thank you for that.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Tom said to me, Leon said to me, where do
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you meet this guy? And I'm like, well, what's what's Pat?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: What's what's the deal? What's Pat all about? Just wait
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: till you meet this guy? And I'm like, wow, man,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you're it says right here, you're a superhero. An organizational
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: psychologist and poet from South Glens Falls, New York. As
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: a presenter and program director with Sweethearts and Heroes, he
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: spent time listening to students of all ages and backgrounds
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: across the Northeastern United States. You are You're an unusual guy.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: You're You're I've been with a lyrical mind. So and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: I've had some some some pressure this morning from Tom
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: for you to uh, for you to do some rapping.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: What's this all about? What's going on here? This guy?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: This guy? Uh?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't have to know.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: I'm always down. Man, I need words, I need you know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: all that fun do you do with some some and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: so that's yeah, that's where you said free and I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: was like, oh yeah, I'm all about it, man. I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: truly the poem stuff came from boredom, you know. When
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: I was in high school. Actually, I think we did
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: a project on something. Oh it's on drugs and health
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: class and there was a song by a group called
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Naughty by Nature and it is OPP. Right, that's the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: one that everybody knows. And of course it just turned
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: out that our project had to be on the drug PCP,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: and we had to talk about the dangers of PCP.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: And I sat down and I was like, Okay, you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: know I know that OPP and PCP goes together. So
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: do you know about PCP? Yeah? You know me, you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: know about PCP? Yeah, you know so that whole part
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: was done, and then I was like all right, and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: I started going in on like okay, So PCP is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: a dissociative anesthetic. The nineteen fifties was when it was invented,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: and when patients used it they began to act demented.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: So in the sixties the government said forget it and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: I could just started going in on it and I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: was like, wow, I'm actually really good at this, and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: so sure enough, you know, the next day, we had
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: a table of kids that always used to try rapping,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: and I just kind of went and sat with them
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: one day and I was like, can I try? And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: They're like sure and and I did it and they
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: were like, what just happened? Dude? Why are you good
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: at this? And I had no idea whether it was
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: shel Silverstein or the too much little Wayne in the brain,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: but yeah, right from there, went to college and did all,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: you know, freestyle battles and been on plenty of radio
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: stations because of that. With Yeah, so I'm used to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: getting interviewed in a different way, but it's fun doing
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: it now with the sweethearts and heroes stuff. I you know,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: you can't curse when you're in schools, right, Yeah, so
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: you know, the freestyling becomes a little bit more challenging.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: But I mean when when when Tom's asking you two
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: uh to rap about a blue chain named Louis, you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: know maybe at some point you know that that can
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: happen and it doesn't have to be right here right now.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying maybe someday.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: I could do it right here right now. Yeah, so
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: you know, so you gotta get like the tap going
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: of some kind, right, and then I could just do
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: that in my head. That part's fine. But okay, okay,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: here's where I'll go, talking about a blue jay not
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: from Toronto with my man JD and the studio. You
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: already know how this gonna go, and now paths going
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: off of the top. Yeah, every time I rap, it's amazing.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Damn talking about a story about his daughter and the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: time this morning find a blue Jay in her hand.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Then they got in the car and on the radio,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: he said, Ooh, I wonder how this song gonna go.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: But they heard something different, something way worse, and he
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: felt bad turned it off like a nurse in a hospital.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Got to go.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: But every time I start rapping, I just got to flow.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: So then he learned a lesson about life and why
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: there's a good there's an evil side, right, So if
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: you gotta go and be nice, well we can repeat that.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe do it twice. If you do it three times,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: then you start a life. Are giving more hope the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: sweetheart inside giving hope to others. That's what you gotta do.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm getting tired, so adios I do. How is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: that not bad assass