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Adam Morgan: Hopesfall | Furnace Fest 2023 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Wow, Brady. Today we have Adam from Hopes Fall and we're just so
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so stoked for this. Adam, literally, like a day or two ago,
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I want on YouTube and just literally looked up all these hopes Fall live
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videos because I'm just like in Hope's Fall kick right now. I love Hope's
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Fall so much, so it's just a it's really an honor for us to
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chat with you again. I think our last episode hasn't technically come out yet,
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so we actually have recorded before, but we actually haven't released that episode
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because the kind of reason why we recorded that, that reason has not been
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uh formally released yet, so we're just kind of waiting on that. But
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uh, this, this will probably come out before then, I'm guessing,
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because we do know that you will be at furnace Fest and we're super super
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stoked for that, um and so uh yeah. But with all that said,
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we'll talk about furnace Fest, we'll talk about whatever else comes up about
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Hope's Fall. But Adam, how are you doing today? Good man?
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How are y'all doing? First of all, thanks thanks for having me.
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I had a lot of fun on our last talk that you mentioned, you
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know, and I'm just uh I'm just y'all asked me to come back,
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and uh, I'm doing well. So how about y'all. Hey, yeah,
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yeah, we're doing well. We're doing well. Also, we think
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that your plug at the last episode was maybe one of the best ones ever,
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one of the better ones. We still we still think about it.
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Oh yeah, it was what was it was like something like some canned food
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or whatever, right, yeah, yeah, colored green green. Yeah,
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that was epic. That was so good. It was epic for sure.
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We loved it. Well. Uh, let's before we get into like furnace
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fast stuff. I like, let's just talk about what's been going on in
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the life of Hope's Fall. Have you guys been playing any shows writing new
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music? Like, what's what's been going on with you guys? Uh?
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So, trying to remember what month did we talk last. I think it
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was May January, like late January, six months almost man, time flies
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that really. Yeah. The only thing we've really done of worth mentioning is
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we did a tour in Japan with the band Taken from California and then UM
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and then another band from Japan called Stranded Stranded, so we were out there.
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It's great. Oh you've heard them Yeah, for sure. It's awesome.
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Yeah, they're all over on the instagrams these days. Okay, Yeah,
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that was incredible. That was like I think it was five shows and
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it was just you know, the one of the greatest adventures of my life.
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It was spectaculo. Yeah, you got you gotta tell us more about
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that, because you know, there's a lot of bands that are like,
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yeah, we toured the world, but most do not get to um,
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you know, far East Asia. So I'm curious to hear uh some some
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stories he got from that. Man. Man, it just it was just
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everything about it just exceeded expectations. I mean, that was a place that
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we've wanted to go, you know since we started the band when I was
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like seventeen. You know, that was kind of always a dream, you
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know, and it came close to happening a few times, um back when
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you know, around the Satellite years or when I was still in the band,
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and then it just it just never panned out until until I turned forty
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one, you know, throw it, I thought, so, um,
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but yeah, just going over there, that the just the culture, the
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people, just the nicest, most incredible just just people in general, you
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know, like seeing uh Mount Fuji was just you know, redic lists.
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Um, just the appreciation from the from the people at the shows that came
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out. Um, even though there was a little bit of a language barrier,
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Um, it didn't deter anybody from from trying to communicate with us.
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And you know, we worked it out with the uh, with the Google
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Translate on our phones and stuff like that, and it worked out fine.
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But I mean, I think I just had a permanent smile on my face
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the entire time we were there. I mean, the food we ate ramen
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every night after the show, you know that. I would say, the
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most surprising thing is the um, how many seven elevens are over there,
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and how awesome they are, Like we probably ate almost every lunch from a
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seven eleven. Uh, Like, I mean, I don't know. It
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was just incredible, Like it happened way too It went by like that.
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You know, we saw a bunch of temples and um, just just beautiful,
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beautiful landscapes and sceneries and awesome people. Like I said, it was
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just it was it was a dream come true. It was awesome. That's
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super cool. Did you did you guys must have had a sense that you
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had fans in Japan and uh, you know, like you must have had
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like some sort of sense that like, you know, because you're not going
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to go over as a band if you don't know that, like you're gonna
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be able to sell tickets and then it's actually gonna be worthwhile. So you
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guys must have known that you had a significant fan base or at least a
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big enough fan base in Japan to be able to go do all of that.
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You know, every once in a while and like social media, someone
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from Japan would reach out and be like when are you gonna come to Japan.
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It's like but it's you know, it's the same thing you get from
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a kid in Milwaukee or you know, right, and it's just like yeah,
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man, we love too, but like it's just not that easy.
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But then, um, so the way the way it happened, the way
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it went down and that we even got out there was um was a show
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promoter in Japan that has been bringing bands over from the US for a while.
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Um named Koba Uh just reached out to us. He had actually brought
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the band taken over there like a bunch of times, like they had been
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over there probably four or five or maybe even more, and so he reached
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out to them again and he was like, do you think Hope Swall would
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want to come? And you know, we we knew the Taking guys and
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they reached out to us and we were like, oh my god. Yes.
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So the Taking dudes are like Jesse and the Rippers, They're big in
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Japan. I'm glad you got that reference. I'm not sure I lived on
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Full House man, like I still watched reruns and like, I know the
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lines that are coming up, like I remember, uh, I remember,
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I remember when Michelle was trying to to stall uh their dad because the girl,
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the older girls had done something that they were trying to fix before they
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saw it, maybe like busted a hole in his bed room door or bedroom
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wall, and so she was like telling her dad, you know, Danny
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Tanner, like I know our phone number and I still remember it. It's
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five five five two four two four. It's like just stupid, Like,
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yeah, why would you remember that. I don't know if there's no reason
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too trying to call the Tanner House and fact check me on that too.
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I know, that's awesome. Well, I'm glad Japan you know went really
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well. I know that's always like a risk when you guys, you know,
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when a band goes overseas, you just never know exactly how it's going
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to go. But clearly it went really well for you guys, and I'm
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glad that it was like such a really cool experience for you all. Oh
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yeah, man, thank you. It was great. Like there's a there's
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a gigantic melodic hardcore scene over there. They call it Jojoe hardcore, like
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Jojo Jojo hardcore. Yeah, so that was something new we learned. But
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like, yeah, they just eat it up. They can't get enough of
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like that kind of like music. Yeah, what's that? What's that other
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band name? Um? That Japanese hardcore band that's been just blowing it up
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recently. Are they hardcore or Yeah? It's not hardcore. Sorry, it's
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it's like straight up metalcore, like two thousand and five metalcore. It's not.
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It's not baby baby metal is No, No, it's not. I
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don't know. It's like winds of something, winds wind of Oh my gosh,
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I can't think of what it is. But those guys are they look
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like by sailing before the wind, Sailing before the wind. Yes, that's
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them. Those guys look like they're having like the most amount of fun possible,
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And if that's at all what Japanese metal core is like, I'm I'm
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I'm there for it. I want to be there. I don't know if
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if any of our listeners have had a chance to listen, or if you've
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had the chance looking them up on Spotify right now. See, Oh yeah,
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they've seventeen thousand monthly listeners currently. Yeah, they're they're they're fun to
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watch. They've got a lot of stuff on the instagrams as well. Anyways,
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that's not what we're here talking about. We're gonna talk about host ball
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Man. So you guys doing Furnace Fast this year? You guys stoked on
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that? Oh of course, anytime we get invited to play Furnace Fast is
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a good time. Yeah, did you guys did you guys play a couple
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of years ago? I'm I'm blinking. I think I saw you guys play.
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But I feel like both of those years now are all one year now,
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and like in my mind, so I'm totally blinking on like when you
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guys played him whatnot? But the first uh comeback? The yeah yeah,
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and then not last year okay, yeah, but this year they're doing that
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with a number of band you know, we just talked to Living Sacrifice,
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and so they were a band that you know, they played on the initial
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run of Furnace Fast back in the day, and then they played that twenty
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twenty one year, and then obviously we'll be playing this year, and then
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you know, you guys as well. So there's a number of those bands
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that kind of leap frogged from last year. Yeah. Yeah, stop saying
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zaoo, Mason' You get so much shit about that online and I get rolled
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into it. I don't say zaout, I say zao. But everyhow,
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Yeah, they didn't play last year. Nope, they played the year first
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year. They played the first year when you guys played. Yeah, I
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remember watching that set. Yeah, that might have been the loudest show I've
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ever been to in my entire life. Oh really, dude, that was
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insane. Yeah, that like would hurt your ears. I mean it was.
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It was pretty bad. Terms, it was a great set. It
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was just awesome series. I'm watching from backstage, so I didn't get the
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full speaker experience, but I guess, yeah, I guess maybe they brought
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their own sound guy and they were he was just like, yeah, well
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plus inside that shed too. Man uh Dan's voice sounded like an absolute demon.
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It was amazing. But I assume you guys probably gonna be on the
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shed right or in the shed. I wouldn't want to play. I mean,
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I'll play anywhere, but I mean, if if it's left up to
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us, definitely the shed. We definitely couldn't pull off stage. And maybe
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the was the pond better last year than it was in twenty twenty one.
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I remember that they had some some issues with the sound. I feel like,
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I feel like it sounded pretty good last year, right, I thought
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it sounded great, Okay, yeah, yeah, well good. I'm glad
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they got that worked out. I didn't think it sounded terrible the year before
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though, either, So I don't know. I think it was like the
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Code seven, like the engineer just like like for the entire set didn't have
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one of the guitars mixed in. Oh my gosh, yeah, like for
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them that's huge, like yeah, well not too match. Just just imagine
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traveling all that way yeah yeah, and and and doing a festival gig and
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you can't even actually like you're literally just standing up there, you're your your
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stage decor at that point. Yep, that would make me so bad.
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Yeah, that would that would suck. Tell us a little bit about the
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story about you guys getting to be able to play for his fest again this
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year again. Obviously you played twenty twenty one, but what's the story behind
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this year and getting asked? Apparently we won some kind of contest. I
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don't know there was a contest. It was a couple months ago. It
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was shortly after we talked. But yeah, like I was, I was
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getting ready to eat dinner with the family and I get like a text or
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or some kind of like Facebook or Instagram notification from somebody that was like,
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dude, congrats you all are playing Furnace Fest. I was like, humh
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like like I didn't hear anything about this, Like how do you know this?
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But like an idol and like the um the uh, I guess like
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the Furnace Best Community Facebook page group. Guess they were. I guess there
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was a slot open or something like that, and they decided to do like
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a pole and like you know, with a bunch of different bands and and
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I guess hope Saul was one of the names on the list, and we
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had the most votes or whatever. So I was so, you know,
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like I'm reading these like I actually got a couple of months. There must
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be a lot of Japanese people in yeah, like colluding uh for furnace Fest
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votes. Yeah, we got a real problem with that over here in the
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States. Huh uh yeah man. That so like I was just like oh
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wow, Like if I would have known that, I would have like tried
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to rig the system myself a little bit, like yeah, calling on friends
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to go and vote, but I had none of us had any idea that
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that was happening. So I was like kind of I went on the Facebook,
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you know, group and found it, and I was like, okay,
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yeah, they said they're they're going to reach out to the to the
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winner to see if they'll play. And so I'm contacting like our singer because
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he's the guy that's in touch with our booking agent the most. Yeah,
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and he's like, dude, I already got the offer, like like just
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now, Like god, wow, they moved fast, those furnace Fest people.
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But yeah, Like I was like immediately like whatever it is, like,
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yeah, let's do it. You know, that's awesome. So that
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was it was a pleasant surprise as I was like, man, we got
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looked over again, dude, Like what the heck? You know? So
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that was good that we were able to get back on the bill. So
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yeah, fun, that's awesome. We actually just talked to one of our
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friends who um also want to contest for furnace Fest and his band now is
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going to be playing. Uh we don't know what day now, but but
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they're they're kind of a you know, smaller band. They don't have quite
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the legacy as a band like Hubs Fall, but yeah, it's uh,
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it's really cool that, you know, furnace Fest, that they're allowing the
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community to like have input in that way. You know that they actually have
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input in the kind of bands that they want to see, and so it's
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really cool to see like direct accracy uh in action. Yeah, its absolutely,
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yeah, it's it really is a good model. Like if they want
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to sell tickets, then let let the people who are potentially buying the ticket
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to decide on who's going to play, and they'll likely to to show up.
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You know, A question for you this is this is totally unrelated.
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Uh do you ever listen to Dave Ramsey, the the financial advice guy?
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Oh? My God, is that like the is that the dude like the
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bald head dude. No, that's I'm thinking of Jim Kramer. No,
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No, he does have a bald head as well. But yeah, he's
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got he's got financial advice and he's on like am am radio and everything like
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that. Your voice sounds exactly like his, and I just pinpointed it now,
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and I've been trying to figure it out since the last time we talked.
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It was like, what the hell does he sound like the exact same
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southern accent? I wonder here, let me look up where Dave Ramsey's from,
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because it's literally the same southern accent, you know, and it's in
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the same register and everything. It's like exactly depending on where you live.
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Oh, he's from, um Nashville, Tennessee. Uh say, you guys
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are from North Carolina, right right? Yeah, so not like that's terribly
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far. So I'm guessing my guess is like, yeah, like, you
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know, Tennessee, North Carolina accent must be like similar enough, because like,
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yeah, you guys sound exactly like I almost feel like we should pull
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up a video just so we can compare it. I was gonna say,
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I'm definitely gonna check that out later for sure. I need to hear that
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guy's got a sexy voice, is what you're saying. It's exactly what we're
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saying. That's exact. You need to put your money in precious metals and
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uh, I'm talking about in pork bellies. Pork bellies, that's the way
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to go. Yeah, let me let me pull up, let me skip
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this ad. Here we go. All right? You ready for this?
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Yeah? And you're you're the good news. The weird thing is about paying
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down Mortagne. I'm out, dude. He's one of the most successful radio
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personalities of all time, Bud, he said, I sound like that.
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Yeah, tell me it's not right though, I don't think so. Colin.
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As soon as you said Dave ramesay, I knew exactly where you were
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going with that, because my goodness is, you know what you guys have
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to do this or your next music video? What's that? Your next music
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video has to be like a spoof on you beat a Dave Ramsey. I
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got the hair to match. There you go, you got that, got
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that goal for you. So, speaking of music videos, you know,
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it's been a little bit of time since uh Hopes Fall released you know some
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music. Uh you know, I think I when last time I chatted,
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Um, yeah, yeah, we did a single. Oh and honestly to
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this day, that's my favorite Hopes Fall song, as you guys is twenty
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twenty single, um, Hall of the Sky. But yeah, like it's
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been a couple of years now since at least the single has been out,
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and you know, it's been even a few more years since, uh,
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the the album came out. Yeah, any anything that we could maybe expect
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in the future from hopes Fall in terms of new music. When we recorded
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All of the Sky, we recorded two more songs to go along with it,
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and it's just been sitting on the shelf. Goodness, what's what's the
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reason for that? I don't know, ask EVR, But seriously, bug
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EVR, anybody anybody here in this U Equal Vision Records, like, hit
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them up, tell them to release that. Yeah, they're we love them,
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They're a great label. We love, love, love being with them,
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and I'm sure they have their reasons, but you know, and we're
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also kind of a I would imagine we're a little bit of a passion project
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for them. We're not a full time touring band, you know. Um,
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you know, they just we feel fortunate that they would even want to
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work with a band that like straight up told them when we signed, like,
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hey, we're not we're not doing any like tours and we just want
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to put out music. And they're like, okay, that's cool, Like
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but we just do like a at least do like an Arbiter release show or
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something. We're like, yeah, we can do that, you know,
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but then you know, when cool opportunities come up, we will jump on
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it. If everybody, you know, if everybody can work it into their
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schedule in their in their work life and their family life and stuff like that.
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So well, I think the Facebook group right now on the Furnace Fest
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Facebook group is voting right now as we speak on a new Hopes Fall album,
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and it seems like Yes is taking the commanding lead. So I guess
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we got to do it. I guess you're gonna have to do Yeah.
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Now, we have talked about it. After Furnace Fest, I think we
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I think the plan is to kind of just regroup and just kind of start
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writing, because the problem with writing and still taking shows here and there,
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whether it be like preparing for like a five day thing in Japan, or
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for like even for like a satellite year's play through for Furnace Fest. It's
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like, when we have something on the horizon that we have to do live
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like, we spend like all of our time and energy rehearsing. So it's
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never writing. So as long as there's something, as long as there's a
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show that's you know, in the books, it's the practness time is spent
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trying to work those songs out so that we don't suck wive. You know.
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But I think we've kind of talked about it loosely, you know,
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like I think it's something we all agree on. It's like, let's if
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we keep taking offers, we're never gonna get creative and start writing again.
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So like, let's just take a little bit, a little bit of a
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break after Furnace Fest. Ye, and let's let's try to you know,
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the ultimate goals to get back in the studio and record, because really that's
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at this point, it's what we all pretty much find the most enjoyable part
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of being in a band is the creating and the and the you know,
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the payoff for that is being able to go to the studio, hang out.
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You know, you get a chance to play your parts perfect. You
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know, you're not playing a live show where you got you got one chance
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to nail it. But you can just kind of take those ideas and all
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those new songs that you wrote and really play around with them, dial in
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the tone, dial in different takes, and like just seem at all come
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together. Is very rewarding and very fun for us at this point. You
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know, I can imagine yeah, when you get you guys have done such
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a great job, you know, making your your newest records um sound very
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very diversified. We'll say it that way. There's so much extra fun stuff
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going on on the records then like what we see like for instance, like
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during like the Satellite years or something like that. Like it it feels much
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more conceptual in so many ways, you know, right, yeah, I
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can I can see that and it Yeah, once you know, once the
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song, once the base of the songs get laid down in the studio in
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the last couple of times we've been, it just kind of gives the guitar
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players, you know, a little bit more of an idea and a chance
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to kind of sprinkle on the spices, you know, um and kind of
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start working in that atmospheric um, you know, the tones and and and
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um just kind of overall vibe of the songs is when it really starts to
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come together, you know, and when you start getting excited about And that's
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that's the exciting part for me, is hearing the stuff that we didn't quite
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iron out in practice, but it starts to take shape in the studio.
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It's just yeah, that's that's so rewarding, it's so fun. Yeah.
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Who's the primary songwriter in Hopes Follower or is it kind of really a collaboration
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between all of you guys. Yeah, it's everybody. I mean, no
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one comes in with a song, you know, joh you know obviously the
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guitar players and our bass player Chad because he's an amazing guitar player. They
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all come in with parts, riffs like its riff at a time, yeah,
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you know, you know, and we'll we'll just jam on it and
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we'll get it, you know, to where it's feeling good and will you
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know, everybody will has to agree that, yeah, this is a cool
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part. We should keep this in the you know, in the basket of
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riffs. And then someone will show up with a different riff, or someone
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will go home that night and be thinking about the riff we just jammed on,
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and think about what could the next part be? In its very it's
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very dump the puzzle pieces out on the floor and and try to build the
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thing together, you know. Yeah. Um, it's never never been someone
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coming in within with a song like in hand. Uh you know, speaking
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of riffs, I was, I was listening to some Hopes Fall today and
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uh, you know, just taking another another listen back to the Satellite years
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and I'm curious, are you familiar with the band the Chariot? I know
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who they are. I never I never listened much to them. There's a
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song called back to Back that is almost a direct rip off of a riff
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from uh satellite yars Mase what song was it? Again? I sent you
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the song? Song was at the moment? Yeah, I think it was,
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Um waitress waitress? Do you want to Adam, you want to hear
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this riff from back to back? Yeah? See if you see if you
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can pinpoint it is the last what what? What did it already happen?
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Yeah? That was it? Yeah? So like that that ending breakdown,
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Yeah, it's it's the final breakdown from the waitress. Yeah, okay,
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I mean maybe I can about guarantee you Josh Gagan was listening to some uh
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some of the waitresses got right here. Okay, I'll give it to you.
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I can. It's a little it's a little there. I used to
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play with Josh all the time, like back in the uh um Norma Jean
25:33
and uh, what was it before that, Ludacota Chris Yeah, yeah,
25:37
yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that was one of the first,
25:40
like one of the first like bands we brow down with, like playing shows
25:45
together. Yeah, there's definitely some cross pollination going on. I also I
25:48
also found another drum fill that, uh that sounds very familiar as well.
25:53
So it was pretty like notorious for like basically just ripping off riffs, you
25:59
know, like death Policeman I think was like a Nirvana riff. And yeah,
26:03
totally yeah, he's like pretty he's pretty well known for doing something.
26:06
He only takes it from the best, though, so well, I I
26:10
straight up ripped off a drum riff in on a song on the satellite years
26:15
from the band Shiner. Oh, I mean very you know, let's not
26:19
call it rip off, Let's call it h pay homage, tribute, a
26:26
tribute riff. Yeah, I love it. Sometimes you I mean, sometimes
26:34
you gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, for sure. I love
26:37
seeing stuff like that though, especially in the in the metal world. I
26:41
just think that it's, uh that cross pollination is so nice to see.
26:47
You know, in other genres, you know, they'd get all butt hurt
26:49
and they say you stole my song, But like here, it's like,
26:52
you know, this is there's some similarities, but it's everyone's got like their
26:56
own like little distinct flavor that they're adding to it. And I love that.
26:59
Yeah, and i'd out anybody's mad about it, Like I'm not sitting
27:00
there going the hell man, I'm like, oh sweet the chariot, Like
27:07
that's rad right, Like totally. It's it's always super cool, like because
27:12
you see it a little bit, you know in the hip hop world where
27:15
they'll take like samples and stuff from like different songs and uh, and you
27:18
know that's a way to kind of pay homage to you know, prior artists
27:22
that you know came before you and stuff, and so, uh, you
27:25
know, you see that a little bit in the hip hop community, and
27:26
it's really cool to see that more in like the heavy music world as well,
27:30
totally absolutely nothing wrong with it as long as it's just not like blatant
27:36
blatant Yeah, same lyrics, say, yeah totally. At that point,
27:41
it's just a cover. So you guys are obviously playing you know, Satellite
27:45
Years and stuff at Furnace Festa. Is there anything else that maybe we could
27:48
expect at your show that like, are you guys, are you guys playing
27:52
from track one to you know, the last track or you guys kind of
27:56
mixing it around? Like what can we expect from the that besides it knowing
28:00
that you guys are gonna be playing Satellite here right, Yeah, no,
28:03
it'll be it'll be from track one to track ten. You know. Uh,
28:07
there's a there's an instrument there's two instrumentals on the album, the first
28:11
track, but then there's like there's one called red Shift that happens later on
28:17
in the record. And um, we've done we've done two Satellite Year play
28:23
through shows, and before we did the first one, we were like,
28:29
God, are we gonna We're gonna have to try to We're got to play
28:32
this like little instrumental interlude track that have we've never played live before, you
28:40
know, probably only played it once when we were in the studio recording the
28:42
thing, you know, and then never touched it again, and we're like,
28:45
well, it's a play through and if if we leave it out people,
28:49
someone's gonna bitch, you know. So like we had to kind of
28:53
like rework it and kind of put a new kind of twist on it,
28:57
and then it turned out to be like one of my favorite things to play
29:00
so far, really yeah, because it kind of it breaks up like it
29:04
gives the kind of gives a set like a nice breath towards the end before
29:11
the last two or three songs. I forget what number track it is that
29:15
one, you know, I think will be interesting to see how it goes
29:18
over in the shed. But it's very very laid back. But I think
29:23
Hopeswall fans they're keen to that and they appreciate, you know, a good,
29:29
softer, melodic kind of thing. So I mean, it's part of
29:32
the reason why I love Hall from the Sky or Hall of the Sky because
29:36
you know, the end, you know, it ends with that kind of
29:37
instrumental piece and it's pretty, yeah, And that's what's super cool about you
29:41
guys, is you can make such pretty music and then you also have some
29:45
of the heaviest stuff that you know is out there. I mean it really
29:48
is, like truly like you can hear the hardcore roots that you guys have,
29:52
and then yet you also like make some of the prettiest stuff that like
29:55
sounds like it could be a you know on like a Circaros album or some
29:57
other post rock album something. Yeah. I was gonna say, didn't we
30:00
talk about like Hammock and cigarettes the last time we talk? Yeah? Yeah,
30:03
yeah, got it? Yet your cigarettes album, of course, man,
30:07
like all weak like I love it. It's very very close to Altari.
30:14
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's very orchestral and and beautiful.
30:18
I love it. I think this one probably has the most amount of space
30:21
in it that I've ever heard in a cigass album. But I don't really
30:23
have much percussion, because you know, they don't they still don't help Like
30:26
I don't think they ever really replaced their drummer, right, yeah, which
30:30
I don't mind. I mean, in Valtari didn't have very much percussion,
30:33
and it's my favorite album, you know, that's true love, Yes,
30:37
yeah, I mean that's one of the beautiful things about host Falls, like
30:40
you get so many of those cool influences. You obviously get the you know,
30:42
hardcore stuff, and then you get like the really pretty beautiful stuff,
30:45
and you know, I think like another band that to me does that really
30:48
well is like Thrice, And I'm sure you guys really respect Thrice and Thrice
30:52
and you know they do that really well as well. Oh yeah, they're
30:55
the Kings for sure. So it looks like, you know, Satellite Years
31:00
is a round a forty minute album. I don't know how long your guys,
31:03
is set is going to be able to be? Like, do you
31:06
think you could play another couple of songs after you play Satellite Years? Are
31:10
you gonna do the blindside thing where you just play the album and that's it.
31:12
Yeah, we're still kind of waiting to hear what our what the set
31:15
link is we I mean, we don't know what our time slot is.
31:19
We don't know what our allotment of time is. Yeah, what if they
31:23
tell you twenty minutes, what are you gonna do? Then well you've kind
31:27
of contradicted your own contract there. That's like I can't you know, That's
31:36
what that was. My first thought was, like, you know, specifically
31:38
they wanted the Satellite Years play through, and I was like, they gotta
31:42
know that that's like a forty minute album. You know. Yeah, I
31:48
can't remember how much time we got two years ago, but I was thinking,
31:52
we're not big enough to to get a slot that allows that much time.
31:56
So I'm like, I hope they keep that in mind when they're when
32:00
they're dealing out the slot times and stuff like that. So, you know,
32:04
I kind of thought we'd be on like maybe twelve or one o'clock in
32:07
the afternoon. No, no, no, no, no, you guys
32:09
are going to be like at least an evening band for sure. See I
32:13
don't six or seven. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. It would
32:16
have to be if if they're gonna give it, you know, if if
32:20
we're doing the whole album, you know. So yeah, well hundred percent
32:24
sure you guys are gonna be an evening band. There's no way you're gonna
32:28
be one of the first bands playing and one you know, I forget what
32:30
day it was that you guys play it like Saturday fans, I want to
32:34
say, Friday. Is it's the same night the MxPx plays. Oh yeah,
32:37
yeah, so yeah, there's there's no way you guys aren't playing sometime
32:39
in that evening. Right, Well, that's that's good. I mean,
32:44
that's nice to hear, or that opinion you're taking a yeah, yeah,
32:52
yeah. Are you going to be hanging out the rest of that weekend you
32:55
guys? Obviously you guys play the first night, But are you guys gonna
32:59
be hanging out kind of the next couple of days after that, or are
33:01
you guys just gonna be playing the show and heading out? No. I
33:06
think I think the plan is we stay. That's what we all want to
33:07
do. Good. That's what we did two years ago, and that was
33:12
the best. Like, I mean, I'm sure there's gotta be a lot
33:15
of bands that you want to see that maybe you haven't seen quite some time.
33:19
Yeah, man, I want to see I really. I'm so stoked
33:22
to watch Training for Utopia. Yeah, a Braid play through a frame and
33:29
canvas. You know. I'm stoked to see MxPx. I can't remember the
33:34
last time I saw them, Like, I mean, they haven't played in
33:37
a long time but a little while. It's been a minute, but it's
33:39
Piebald playing again. Yes, they're Piebald. Yeah, man, of course,
33:45
Like there's so many like I don't think it's as stacked as it was
33:49
in twenty twenty one for for my taste, but there's still a ton of
33:53
bands, a lot of really good bands. I think. One of the
33:57
really cool things about Furnace Fast that I've notice and it's unlike any other festival
34:02
that I've been to, and that is you get so many bands that do
34:07
exactly what you're describing, where they stick around the entire weekend. Yeah,
34:12
and that's really cool. I mean you literally could be motion right next to
34:16
you know, one of your favorite bands or whatever, right because like those
34:19
band members are going to be sticking around. And so that's one of the
34:22
cool things about Furnace Best is you get to see some of your favorite bands,
34:28
like fangirl other bands that you love like and you don't really get to
34:30
see that interaction very often, and so it's really cool to know that,
34:35
like, oh, like one of my favorite bands like Hopes Fall is also
34:38
clearly also just big music fans as well, and like they want to get
34:43
in the pit as well, or they want to be stage ive in two
34:45
did their favorite bands, And that's super cool to watch. Yeah, you
34:46
get are you getting the pit for Braid that? Yeah, that I'll get
34:51
in the pit for braid and piebald Uh. I still don't gravitate very much
34:59
to super Head music, except for like I mentioned Training for Utopia, because
35:02
that that first album that they put out was just so nuts. Yeah,
35:07
it was so angry and like just read. I don't think the guitar players
35:15
picked their fingers up off the strings the entire album, like just to get
35:19
to get to each note. They just slow they slid it to each It
35:23
was just so chaotic sounding, like I hadn't heard anything like that when it
35:28
came out. Yeah, I guess a lot of people like they compare them
35:31
to like Neurosis, but I never listened to them, or or Dead Guy.
35:36
I don't know if y'all with Dead Guy, but with Neurosis, I
35:40
could see some similarities, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't call it like a
35:45
like a one for one kind of situation, right, I don't know that.
35:47
I think that album just hit me right at the right, Like that
35:51
was around the era, like what was that ninety seven or like ninety eight
35:54
or something like that, like when when Solid State, you know, was
35:59
just putting out Bang after me, Yeah, and me and my friends were
36:02
just kind of falling into that that whole genre and that whole ecosystem of Tooth
36:10
and Nail and Christian hardcore and metal and stuff like that. So like at
36:15
that time, you had like Zeo Overcome, Strong Arm, focal Point Training
36:21
for Utopia, just such a good lineup of bands, the best. Yeah,
36:25
so so many good bands at that time. Yeah, it's it's really
36:29
hard to believe that, you know. It's it feels like every era of
36:32
Solid State has had like just such incredible bands, and even including when they
36:37
first started as the imprint for Tooth and Nail, Like solid State has always
36:42
had such amazing bands. Yeah, Brandon's got the talent. Man, he
36:47
knows how to Yeah, he's got he's got an ear. I know,
36:52
we talked a little bit about it last time we chatted, but it still
36:54
blows my mind that you guys never were signed to Tooth and Nail. I
36:58
mean, it just it always like such a good a good fit for you
37:00
all, because you know, you guys were so associated and so close to
37:04
a lot of the bands that were coming up at the same time. Uh,
37:07
and so it always like felt like a no brainer. But but yeah,
37:10
I mean, you guys are obviously on equal vision for good reasons now
37:13
and we don't even have to get into the previous record nonsense that happened before.
37:16
But um, but yeah, it always still blows my mind that you
37:20
guys were never a tooth and nail bean, because it just totally makes sense
37:22
that you guys do. Yeah, it totally makes sense. I mean that
37:25
was what we wanted. And it's like they just acted a little too late.
37:31
I mean that's all there is to it. Like, you know,
37:37
well, um, let's uh, do we want to get into guilty pleasures
37:40
Colin? And we right, yeah, Adam, Lord, Adam, we
37:45
gotta we gotta dive into guilty pleasures. You said you no one right away.
37:51
That's right off your top of your head. Um. You know,
37:52
Colin mentioned before he's a big fan of Creed. He loves Creed even though
37:55
you know, a lot of people in the world that we're in probably would
37:59
make fun of calling for it, and we certainly do. And uh,
38:01
Colin always makes fun of me because I love Blink one eighty two. He
38:05
thinks Blink Blink win eighty two should be considered a guilty pleasure. I'm sure
38:08
there's other bands that an artist that I can think of. Um, oh,
38:13
Colin, you really love Abba? Um? Yeah, that's that's that's
38:15
no one's guilty pleasure. You shut your mouth, You shut your mouth.
38:20
Everyone loves Abba. That is the great unifier. Anyway. Anyway, Adam,
38:24
let's hear at least one guilty pleasure and hopefully a few others come to
38:29
mind. Right. Uh. The one that came to mind right off the
38:31
bat was Natalie and Burglia. Oh yeah, is that the who is that?
38:37
Oh? My god? Natalie, uh torn Um, I'm not gonna
38:40
sing it. You have okay? Oh I love that song. I knew
38:45
exactly what you're talking about. I didn't realize that that was the artist's name.
38:46
The world needs to hear Dave Ramsey sing torn Yeah. I didn't realize
38:52
this until like a couple of years ago, that that was a cover song
38:57
really really not her song. What was saying at first? Oh, edna
39:02
edna swamps edna edna swap swap, edna swap, edna swap. Never heard
39:07
the Danish shot artists or interesting band there's a band or yeah yeah one word
39:15
edna swap swap yeah, and then um yeah, and then and then Natalie,
39:21
uh, like you know did the cover and then it kind of blew
39:24
up. I do remember that song during that time. I've found memories.
39:29
I would not have guessed you saying that song that's a that's a that's a
39:32
deep cut kind of guilty pleasure because it's not been like in the public psyche
39:37
for a little while, right. Yeah, it's just something like we used
39:40
to listen to it on tour all the time. Everybody loved to accept.
39:45
I will say our basis at the time would just just rag us to hell.
39:47
But it wasn't just that. It wasn't just her first album that had
39:52
that song, it was the next one too, Like, I don't know,
39:54
there's something that maybe I mean, obviously she was very attractive and that
39:58
might have had a little something to do with it. But maybe maybe we
40:01
came for the for the looks but stayed for the music kind of thing.
40:06
Yeah, there were a lot of bands and artists during that time of that
40:10
kind of like jangly like um woman guitar kind of stuff that happened. Like
40:16
I think of Jewel Um, I think of sixpence um. None Richer is
40:22
kind of in that vein of Natalie Uh. There's a lot of those bands
40:27
in artists at that time that like had a very similar kind of sound to
40:30
me. Uh And I like, to me, it feels very nostalgic because
40:34
it was like late nineties. I like, I was kind of like when
40:37
I was a kid, and I just feel very nostalgic about all of that
40:39
music. Mason, Now this is just a random question, but do you
40:45
just get feelings of like being at the pool I do, and looking at
40:49
the lifeguards. Yeah, feel like, oh yeah that I like the look
40:53
of that. Yeah. Yeah, they played the top forty hits while you
40:58
were at the pool looking the last gards. I'll pull up a picture.
41:00
I don't know if y'all can see this, Uh me and my my torn
41:07
No way, you are definitely you're You're deep. You're deep in it.
41:13
So I love Is that a rot shirt that you're wearing too? A rad?
41:16
Uh rad? Racing from the movie around the picture? Oh? Oh
41:22
was it a what rot? Is that what it said? No, it
41:24
said come on it. It was right. It was backward. Yeah,
41:30
I know, it's twelve picture like like, it's it's a OK. I
41:37
just didn't I didn't see the shirt. I was looking at the I was
41:39
looking at the album. So yeah, yeah, that's a guilty pleasure for
41:45
shirt. You got to wear that shirt at Furnace vest I wore at a
41:50
Columbia, South Carolina show with UM with Stretch Armstrong, UM and add because
41:54
I was like, I think I had gotten it in the mail like the
41:59
day before, when I was like, yes, like I was hoping it
42:02
would come in before the show. I wore my Phil Collins shirt at the
42:07
Furnace Fest show two years ago. Years ago. It's Furnace Allen's considered a
42:12
guilty pleasure. Yeah, I was just about to say, I think it
42:15
could be, or I think Genesis is more of a guilty pleasure. Okay
42:19
personally, but yeah, that's like, that's that, Dude's the whole reason
42:24
I played drums. Well yeah, man, so yeah exactly. And then
42:30
I'll take Blink one eighty two as well. I didn't I never really considered
42:32
that a guilty pleasure, but I guess I think that's just a me thing,
42:37
and I think I only consider it a guilty pleasure just because I think
42:40
the music is so often sophomoric. I mean, they literally have a song
42:44
called I Want to Fuck a Pirate in the ass, so like I'm just
42:46
like, damn, that's just not for me, and it's like that's like
42:50
but the thing is is like relying Haye did a lot of that stuff early
42:52
on too, did they? Oh, they had so like they they I
43:00
mean they literally did the Pirates who Don't do Anything, and they have Marilyn
43:04
Manson Eat My Girlfriend, and that's true. There's there's a few other of
43:07
those kind of songs that are just like goofy sophomore songs. And then they
43:10
got like, you know, more in the like kind, and those are
43:14
the songs about relying. K I'm just like, you know, this kind
43:15
of takes away from you. Oh, okay, interesting, You're just you're
43:20
such a sincere person, I guess, and less and less Larry the Cucumber
43:23
is singing it, man, No, I guess like to me in Blink
43:30
one eighty two. Um. I think they were definitely doing something a little
43:36
different than a lot of the other pop punk bands at the time they wrote
43:38
the book out. Yeah, they I think they. I think they were
43:40
doing something different, but also like some of their like bigger hits like totally
43:45
are you know, kind of cheesy type songs and I get that. Yeah,
43:50
I feel like maybe like most all the pop punk and like skate punk
43:53
stuff I enjoy, like especially in the spring and summertime, would maybe be
43:59
considered pleasures, uh to maybe my crowd of a group of friends. Yeah,
44:06
you listen to a lot of skis? Are you trying to tell us?
44:07
And I was gonna say, like when the weather hits, like when
44:10
we're coming out of like winter and it's starting to warm up, you know,
44:15
like I'm in like ska punk mode bigger, like give me that bone,
44:21
that trombone. Yeah, what's what's my go to SKA band? Well,
44:25
not only that I do want to hear that, but what's the dance
44:28
move that? This the skink? Yeah? Stinking yeah, skanking you know
44:34
skinking Okay, like like skanking pickle. You heard that band? Right?
44:39
I don't know if I have have you coming skinking pile Asian records here?
44:45
I brought up SKA and I'm glad that it's a part of our guilty pleasure
44:49
conversation because we have a group of people on Twitter that like get very upset
44:52
anytime we say anything somewhat even adjacent of being derogatory towards Scott And we're probably
45:01
gonna get messages about on this one. Yeah. I already got blocked by
45:04
one guy because of it. Blocked. Wow. And we didn't even say
45:07
we didn't even say like Scott was bad or anything. We just said I
45:09
just I just said, like, people listen to Sky and this guy really
45:15
took offense to that. I guess. Wow. I love um. This
45:19
is like the perfect like hybrid of ska and punk. But that album uh
45:23
by the Suicide Machines Definition of Destruction or something. What is it called something
45:30
of destruction? Uh? Destruction? Yeah, oh my god, dude,
45:36
like summertime, windows down. Dude. It's it's like the highest energy,
45:44
like fastest like and that's the thing, Like I I don't think this is
45:47
a guilty pleasure at all, because I will tell everybody, but I love
45:52
that New Slick Shoes record. Oh yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's
45:55
so fast and melodic like like that's like when I listen to punk, Like
46:00
that's what I want to hear. I don't want to hear like like nostalgic
46:04
like Green Day, like just that mid tempo kind of like I want it
46:07
to be just like blazing fast like with just crazy melodic like guitar runs and
46:15
stuff like that, Like that's for some reason, like that's what I crave
46:20
when when summertime comes around. I love that it is. It is definitely
46:23
a subervibe, isn't it. Yeah, totally. Yeah. It doesn't feel
46:28
right listening to it in the winter if it's like January and there's like no
46:30
ten inches of snow on the ground, I'm like, nah, this just
46:34
doesn't fit a Cigaretto season, yeah season and all that good stuff. Um,
46:39
any other guilty pleasure artists, Um, sounds like a lot of like
46:44
kind of that late nineties stuff would be, you know, like remember Len
46:46
steal My Sunshine? Like I think of that as a classic like guilty pleasure.
46:51
At least for me. I'm just waiting for a smash mouth there you
46:55
go, man, No, no, all right. I think a lot
47:00
of people people's guilty pleasures are probably like the stuff they first got into that
47:06
field. Yeah. I will never I will never tell anyone that my first
47:09
record I ever owned was an Aaron Carter CD. Oh wow, Yeah,
47:15
and I have played that thing out Chez. My first CD that I bought
47:20
was a Weird Owl CD. Okay, that's not a guilty Pleasure. That's
47:22
just awesome. That's yeah, that's that's an influential album. Yeah. I
47:28
still he'd be great for a super Time or a super Bowl halftime show.
47:30
Did you did you see there's a new like biopic about him, Yeah,
47:35
with d Well it's like a biopic, yeah, like with Daniel Ratcliffe.
47:38
Yeah, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure it's awesome. I've
47:42
heard it's really good. I gotta check it out too. Yeah, I'm
47:45
probably gonna watch that tonight while I, uh, while I work on my
47:47
homework for school. I think I think he would kill it at a super
47:52
Bowl halftime show. Like, yeah, you imagine like it would be the
47:54
show would be, you know, because he's theatrical when he's doing the you
47:59
know, he dresses up like the people that he's parodying. And yeah,
48:02
if he came out like doing like a like a rendition of like the Prince
48:07
halftime performance and then yeah Jackson, but then like and then like strips off
48:13
like a like a um Janet Jackson booball. Yeah, but like it's like
48:17
a taco underneath or something. Yeah, that just seems like something he would
48:22
do. You know. I've heard people in the industry talk about how he
48:25
is the nicest human. Yeah, like it has literally no virg Yeah,
48:30
yeah, he's just the nicest guy. Yeah sounds I've heard that too.
48:34
It makes sense, like it's not unbelievable. We do have to get another
48:37
guilty pleasure from me, though, before we can move on. I'm trying
48:39
to think so now now I'm trying to think back. It's like my early
48:44
memories of music, like and maybe think. I mean, like the other
48:49
day I listened to like a Plank Eye record. You know, Okay,
48:53
yeah, that's that's that's good stuff. That's just legit stuff we do.
48:57
We just had Bruce from from Living Sacrifice signed just a moment ago, and
49:01
he said that one of the first albums that he really loved was Disco Duck,
49:07
which was like Donald Duck doing a bunch of disco songs. That would
49:10
be a good pleasure. You know what, I have a whole playlist of
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this stuff, and I should have thought about that immediately. You have a
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whole playlist, yeah, of like Alvin and the Chipmunks and like early to
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mid nineties pop country, you know, like Michael Montgomery. Oh yeah,
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yea. I can go through some songs for you Twain, the Yeos,
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where is it? Holy crap? Yeah, this is exactly what we do.
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One like Fast as You by Dwight yoakum oh Yes, now we're talking.
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Be My Baby Tonight on Michael Montgomery, A Little Rock by Colin Ray,
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John Deere Green by Joe Diffy, uh boot Scooting, Boogie Brooks and
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Dunne, Don't Take the World Alan Jackson, Chattahoochie, you know? How
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about? How about? Um? Uh? What was? What's the song
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by Tim McGraw that goes like my Baby, She's a Chip of Wall Indiana?
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Yeah, Indian Outlaw? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that song is
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catchy. That's a good song, but it's also definitely a guilty pleasure exactly.
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Yeah, I got Indian Outlaw. It's on there. Yep. Yeah.
50:35
Geez Adam, you and my dad should hang out. So your dad's
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got great taste in music. Yeah. That came from like a time where,
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uh see, my parents were divorced early on, and then my mom
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around matt time, started dating some guy who just loved that kind of music.
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So then she kind of adopted it as well, and it became her
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favorite music. And and then of course I was sitting in the car riding
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around with her hearing all that stuff, and yeah, I love it.
51:07
Great. Well, Adam, what do you want to plug? Obviously,
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the furnace Fest show is coming up here in a couple of months, so
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people should get their tickets if they want to go see Hopes Fall and obviously
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a number of other great bands. So uh, like I mentioned before,
51:22
the the link to get tickets is in the episode description, but people should
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go check out uh tickets and see you guys at at furnace Fest. But
51:32
anything else you get you want to plug. Maybe maybe there's something personally you
51:36
want to plug, Maybe there's something about the band that you want to plug.
51:37
Anything you want to plug? Uh, not really. I would just
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maybe a little piece of advice to any hopes Fall fans out there that if
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they've been, you know, thinking about pulling the pulling the trigger on on
51:50
purchasing and how to print expensive copy of the satellite years on vinyl, you
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might want to hold off on that for a little bit. Interesting. Oh
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okay, we'll keep that in mind. Yeah, noted. Wonderful well,
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Adam. We we just thank you so much for chatting more about Hopes Fall,
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chatting about the upcoming show. We are so stoked to be able to
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see you guys play. Uh and we're gonna be running around the whole wekend,
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so we're probably gonna run into each other at some point. We would
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love to say hi and give you a big hug. I hope so,
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man. And if you know anybody at Furnace Fest that you know can pull
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some strings, see if see if you can get us on like after one
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after one am. All right, it's great. I don't think that will
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be much of an issue. All right, well I will. I will
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come give you a hug and I will sing torn for you. How about
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that? Yes? And those are the strings I can pull. I'll give
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you some financial advice, go Adam. Thanks again, Yeah man, Thanks
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guys. It was a lot of fun.