Latest / The BioHub - by Avetix / Episode 209 - Pam Stetkiewicz Lyora Therapeutics
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- 0:06Welcome back to another episode of the Biohub podcast.
- 0:09Today, I'm thrilled to be joined by Pam Stekovich, the CEO of
- 0:14Laura Therapeutics. In today's episode, we're going
- 0:17to talk a little bit more about Pam's career and the recent
- 0:20announcement of the formation of Laura Therapeutics out of
- 0:24stealth mode. So, Pam, thank you so much for
- 0:26coming on. Thank you for having me, George,
- 0:29I'm delighted to be here. Yeah, looking forward to it.
- 0:32I mean, firstly, congratulations on the recent announcements on
- 0:35the formation of LIOR and your appointment as CEO.
- 0:39To start with, can you walk us through your career journey,
- 0:41Pam? And then ultimately, what led
- 0:43you to joining LIOR? Yeah, I'd be happy to do that,
- 0:47George. Yeah, we're thrilled to publicly
- 0:50announce the launch of Lior Therapeutics and I'm glad to
- 0:56walk you through a bit more about my career journey and how
- 0:59I got here. I'm a scientist by training.
- 1:02I, I got my PhD from Johns Hopkins and you know, I started
- 1:08out my career as a scientist. I was a post doc at Genetics
- 1:14Institute, which was then bought by Wyeth and Pfizer.
- 1:21But I think it was this, this was really where my career
- 1:25started in industry. And it was probably the first
- 1:29time actually that I and maybe the only time that I had an
- 1:32epiphany in my career. I was a scientist and I got
- 1:35invited to join a cross functional development team.
- 1:40And you know, a scientist perspective is obviously a
- 1:45critical element of moving any drug forward.
- 1:48But sometimes being in the lab can be a bit isolating where you
- 1:51don't see the whole picture of drug development.
- 1:54So I got to join this cross functional team and I was like,
- 1:59wow, there is so much to getting a great science experiment in
- 2:05the lab to a drug in a person. And so it was at this point that
- 2:10I really wanted to get a more holistic view of drug
- 2:13development. And I made a a decision after
- 2:18being through six years of a PhD program, three years of a post
- 2:22doc, to jump into project management and because I wanted
- 2:26to understand all the elements of drug development and then
- 2:30decide what I really wanted to do.
- 2:33So this was like a big change in in my career trajectory.
- 2:39And I just want to note that I probably could have never
- 2:43succeeded if I didn't have mentors.
- 2:46I had a great mentor, Paul Schendel, who really taught me
- 2:50everything about project management.
- 2:53Then after that, working there for a couple years, I got an
- 2:56opportunity to come over to Novartis.
- 2:59Novartis was just starting up in Cambridge.
- 3:02I was actually the 15th employee to join Novartis Cambridge Group
- 3:07and I was at Novartis for 13 years.
- 3:10I'm so grateful for all the opportunities I got at Novartis.
- 3:14I had many different roles spanning from science, project
- 3:17management, portfolio management.
- 3:20I had LED innovation group for four years in which we looked at
- 3:25external opportunities that were outside Novartis's 10
- 3:30therapeutic areas. And there I actually LED a gene
- 3:35therapy program for hearing loss, which really kind of
- 3:39changed my view around what can be possible for treatments for
- 3:45patients. And at the end of the my career
- 3:48in Novartis, I ended up doing a role in BD and alliances.
- 3:55I think Novartis gave me a tremendous amount of
- 3:58opportunities. I work with tons of smart
- 4:00people. I had great mentors there and
- 4:03learned so much. So I'm thankful that for that
- 4:06experience. But after Novartis, you know, 13
- 4:09years in pharma kind of makes you think about like how long
- 4:13should I be in pharma before I get labeled as kind of only able
- 4:19to perform in pharma? So I took the leap and moved to
- 4:23biotech. I got an opportunity to work in
- 4:26editas medicine right when it was being formed in 2016.
- 4:31It's a gene editing company and was one of the kind of premier
- 4:35gene editing companies that started around that time.
- 4:39And this was a tremendous opportunity for me to grow,
- 4:43enroll and to take everything I learned from Farmer and apply
- 4:47those learnings, not all of them, but some of them to a
- 4:51biotech type of company. And I'm really proud that I LED
- 4:57the team around edit 101, which was the first in vivo CRISPR
- 5:02editing reagent to go into or therapy to go into patients
- 5:08ever. And this was for a rare form of
- 5:12inherited retinal disease called LCA 10.
- 5:16So this was really drove my passion around IR D's and really
- 5:21helping patients with this one and done therapy.
- 5:25After that, I did a short stint at Flagship and had lots of
- 5:29learnings there and moved to Arbor where I really expanded my
- 5:33role. I became Chief Operating Officer
- 5:37at Arbor and spent 4 1/2 years in that role.
- 5:40I had expanded my remit to project management, oversight,
- 5:47operations, CMC and quality, regulatory and toxicology and
- 5:53corporate strategy. So this was a great expansion of
- 5:57role and I hired some really great people into those roles
- 6:00that executed Florida State. But it also helped me understand
- 6:06interactions with the board and I got to participate in Series B
- 6:11fundraise and was more active in their Series C fundraising
- 6:16activities. So that was working closely with
- 6:20Devin Smith and was a really great learning experience.
- 6:25But Luke Vandenberg reached out to me while I was at Arbor and
- 6:33enticed me with this CE role for Leora Therapeutics.
- 6:39Luke is known in the field for all his work on Aavs which are
- 6:46viruses that package genetic medicines and also as an
- 6:51entrepreneur. He started seven companies to
- 6:54date and has been very successful in his career.
- 6:58Also the other Co founder is Eric Pierce who's a clinician
- 7:02scientist and actually he collaborated early with Editas
- 7:07and Ed worked briefly with him around the Edit 101 program.
- 7:12So the combination of Luke's experience in company building,
- 7:17Eric's experience in being a clinician scientists and my
- 7:23experience in operational and executional roles seem like a
- 7:27great complementary skills that can really Dr. Leora forward.
- 7:33So that's how we landed here today.
- 7:35Absolutely no. Thank you for that.
- 7:37And obviously since the recent announcement, sounds like Glora
- 7:40has a, you know, robust pipeline.
- 7:42Talk us through a bit more detail around Leora and the
- 7:44products that you're developing. Yeah, Yeah.
- 7:47So, Leora, we've set up the company and which we're really
- 7:52focused and asset driven. We have three programs in our
- 7:55portfolio. The three programs are all
- 7:57focused around inherited retinal degenerative, degenerative
- 8:02diseases. These programs have all been
- 8:06preclinically validated and they intervene at the root cause of
- 8:11disease. The three programs we have been
- 8:16working on all emanated from the science of Eric Pierce's lab and
- 8:22they have moved forward. Eric have has collaborated with
- 8:28different pharmaceutical and biotech companies around these
- 8:32programs and unfortunately some of both the companies have had
- 8:36strategic shifts and are no longer working in this
- 8:41particular area. So we, we acquired the assets
- 8:47back through Mass Ioneer and Mass General and which we have
- 8:51the rights to the programs. We're going to take these
- 8:54programs and tweak and optimize them a little bit and then drive
- 8:58them quickly into the clinic. So right now we're funding 2 of
- 9:03the three programs, LYA one O 1 and LYA one O 2.
- 9:08LYA One O 1 is a gene augmentation approach in which
- 9:13we're looking to help people with retinitis pigmentosa
- 9:16associated with mutations in the PRPF 31 gene.
- 9:21We're really excited about this program as it has a straight
- 9:25shot to the clinic. We've we have development plans
- 9:29laid out in which we believe we can move this program quickly
- 9:33towards clinic. The second program is LYA One O
- 9:362 and it's to address patients with Usher syndrome type 2 and
- 9:42and mutations in Exxon 13 here. This is a bigger patient
- 9:47population and and a very meaningful diseases.
- 9:52Both these diseases patients have night vision and peripheral
- 9:56vision loss as early teens or 20s and then have a slowly loose
- 10:02vision over time until the 40s or 50s where they have
- 10:06blindness. So we hope to intervene and save
- 10:08those patients from progressing to blindness.
- 10:12How do these two core programs differ from the current
- 10:15approaches in those indications as well?
- 10:19Yeah. Thanks, George.
- 10:20This is a really important point.
- 10:22We're going after these programs, one because we have
- 10:24validated science too, because there's unmet medical need out
- 10:30there. There is no approved therapies
- 10:33for either of these programs and there is clinical testing right
- 10:38now going on for these two indications.
- 10:41However, we really differentiate from those and that we are gonna
- 10:45deliver our therapeutics by ABS. We'll deliver them subretinally
- 10:51so we can target the cells in the back of the eye, the cells
- 10:55that need to have the gene incorporated in there and it's
- 11:00going to be 1 and done treatment.
- 11:01What we mean is we'll deliver it once in the life of the patient
- 11:05and it should be durable therapy for the rest of the life time up
- 11:09for the patient. This is really important to
- 11:12patients. We've taught throughout my
- 11:14career being in the gene editing space over the last 10 or 11
- 11:17years. Patients always comment around
- 11:22therapeutics that have you have to undergo treatment on a
- 11:27regular basis such as ASOS or oligonucleotide treatment really
- 11:33are not ideal because A they have access to doctors, B they
- 11:38have to get intravitreal injections throughout the life
- 11:41and C they have to have access to insurance in order to build
- 11:45for these therapies. So it really impacts the stress
- 11:48levels and the and for patients and families.
- 11:52Yeah, the you noticed that obviously the AAV as the
- 11:55delivery mess method, it is that the sole reason why these are
- 12:00superior for IRDS? I think for two reasons.
- 12:06One, because they're Aavs and they're going to be 1 and done.
- 12:092 because the Aavs allow you to target the access access to
- 12:14cells better. So Asos have to travel through
- 12:18the intravitreal space, get through barrier membrane to get
- 12:21to these cells. So we have a much higher chance
- 12:25of getting to our target cells. And three, we're going after the
- 12:29root cause of the disease. Some of the Asos go after
- 12:32modifier genes and not the root cause of the gene disease.
- 12:36Yeah, fantastic. I guess talking sort of more
- 12:39broadly, you spend a huge amount of your career within gene
- 12:41therapy. Obviously it's had a rough last
- 12:44few years in terms of the environment.
- 12:47Do you do you feel there's change in the air?
- 12:49You sound really optimistic. Yeah, I.
- 12:54Guess you have to be optimistic in this field, George, but in
- 12:57order to keep your sanity. But I really am optimistic.
- 13:01And I think if you look at the data, actually the ophthalmology
- 13:06gene therapy programs have outperformed other segments.
- 13:11And So what makes me believe this one, if you look, Lily did
- 13:16two big deals at the end of 2025, one with Mira and one with
- 13:20that Bureau. So those were very appealing
- 13:24deals. But then if you look at 25 to
- 13:2626, a lot of the series fundraise and series AB and C,
- 13:31we've seen companies like Rygays and avant-garde and Splice Bio
- 13:35and Etsena and Mira all get serious fundraising.
- 13:39And you probably saw it just recently, Mira received 400
- 13:43million from Oberland Capital for their X linked retinitis
- 13:48pigmentosa program. So I think we're seeing that
- 13:52there's a lot of excitement. And then maybe just one other
- 13:56point too is that there are several BLA filings.
- 14:00Like to date, we've only really had Lux Turner approved for
- 14:05RP65, but we're on the cusp of several companies coming in with
- 14:12BLA filings, like four or five filings over the next year or
- 14:16so. I think actually getting
- 14:18approval for AV delivered ophthalmology programs is really
- 14:23gonna incentivize the market to invest here.
- 14:27And maybe lastly, our business model I think resonates with
- 14:32this kind of asset driven fast the clinic approach and and so
- 14:36that's why I feel optimistic we're not building up a huge
- 14:41platform that then we're pulling out programs, we're really
- 14:43driving specific assets towards the clinic.
- 14:46Yeah. And, and touching on that point,
- 14:48because I know you mentioned a few times, obviously you know,
- 14:50you're going into the clinic rapidly, you know, you're
- 14:53developing programs that were, you know, perhaps shelved by
- 14:55Biogen and and Editas. What's your anticipated timeline
- 14:59on this? We are actively seeking
- 15:03investors and and that I'm going to make the positive assumption
- 15:07that we get the investors to not slow down our timelines and Dr.
- 15:10quickly. I think the lead program we
- 15:13believe can be an Ind enabling studies in early 2027 and then
- 15:21followed by clinical about a year and a couple months after
- 15:24that. So we're we're very short term
- 15:27to the clinical initiation. The Ashtuay LYA 1O2 programme is
- 15:33a little bit behind that one, but also going to be very
- 15:36focused and driving towards the clinic.
- 15:38Yeah. What are the, I know you touched
- 15:41on obviously fundraising and pushing into the clinic.
- 15:43What are the biggest goals and milestones for LIOR and now over
- 15:46sort of 6121824 months ahead? Yeah, great question.
- 15:52I think for us, in the next 6 months, we hope to get some
- 15:57substantial fundraising. We're looking for $24 million in
- 16:03order to get our LYA One O 1 program to proof of concept read
- 16:09out and the second program, I and D submission ready.
- 16:14So that's our goal right now. I think we're very focused on
- 16:18fundraising and hope to accomplish that in the next 6
- 16:22months. And then it's really about
- 16:25moving the programs forward and executing around the lead
- 16:29program. In the next year, we'll have
- 16:32completed manufacturing and GLP talks and that will be critical
- 16:38to Derisa program and the RS2A program.
- 16:42We're optimizing it now. So we hope in the next 6 to 12
- 16:46months to have a a development candidate out of that program.
- 16:50Fantastic. Talking about the sort of
- 16:52financing environments, I know obviously you touched on it at
- 16:55Arbor as well. What, what are you seeing right
- 16:57now? What?
- 16:57What's the environment like? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's
- 17:02actually getting, it's heating up a bit.
- 17:06Yeah, we come out of these big meetings, JPM and Bio and I
- 17:10think there's a lot of excitement around the great
- 17:13science that's out there and the potential to help patients with
- 17:17unmet medical need. So I think the environment is
- 17:21actually changing right now. And you know we've we've kind of
- 17:27put together our strategy, our portfolio, our development
- 17:30plans, our intellectual property so that we're sewing up all the
- 17:35aspects of our program to be to enable quick movement.
- 17:39We've to reached out and talked to investors and made some
- 17:43pitches. I really feel very optimistic on
- 17:46the feedback we've received. There are people that understand
- 17:49the type of AAB gene therapy we're doing.
- 17:52It's very, very selective. We're taking a very small amount
- 17:58of AAB and, and, and our genetic medicines are packaged in that
- 18:03and then we're putting those AA BS in a very small quantity in
- 18:07the back of the eye. So there's no PIO distribution
- 18:11and and you know kind of systemic impact that are
- 18:16associated with other therapies. So I think a lot of investors
- 18:20that understand our our modality of delivering these drugs are
- 18:25very keen on the Aavs and that the advantages they bring to our
- 18:30programs. So I think that's been very
- 18:32focused. I think the investors like our
- 18:36our capital efficient model that we are driving very quickly to
- 18:40major value inflection points and we're not you know kind of
- 18:45spending a lot of money on peripheral things that we're
- 18:48going to keep our team very focused and lean.
- 18:51We have a very experienced team in place.
- 18:55I just recently also hired a colleague that I worked with,
- 18:59Chris Wilson for a long time at Editas Medicine and he's going
- 19:03to help drive things forward from a science perspective.
- 19:07So we have a lean model that's really pushing things forward
- 19:10that seems to resonate with investors at this particular
- 19:13time. And I do feel optimistic that
- 19:16we're going to find the right investors that have a common
- 19:19mission to our mission, that we can actually change patients
- 19:23lives with these therapies and that it will be a smart
- 19:27investment for them. Yeah, absolutely.
- 19:30Well, we hope everything goes well in the short term with the
- 19:33financing. It's obviously a really exciting
- 19:36time for you with coming out of stealth mode recently.
- 19:40So I mean, Pamela, thank you for coming on.
- 19:43Thank you for talking through Laura's story.
- 19:46As a bit of a tradition on the podcast, we do always ask final
- 19:49question around, you know, if you could sit down and have
- 19:52dinner with any scientists, innovative past or present, you
- 19:55know, who would that be and why? That's a great question, George,
- 20:02and it really makes you think, you know, whether it be somebody
- 20:05from the past or or somebody today, you know, I've had the
- 20:09great pleasure of I I really believe that crisper gene
- 20:14editing is a scientific breakthrough that's been
- 20:18momentous and has huge potential.
- 20:20We have to figure out how to execute on that potential.
- 20:25And you know, I've interacted a lot with Feng Zhang.
- 20:28He started two of the companies Co founded two of the companies
- 20:31that I worked at at a Tawson Arbor.
- 20:34So I would like to meet Jennifer Doudna to see here her
- 20:37perspective. But if I had to sit down and
- 20:39have dinner with somebody, I'd really like that to be Kathy.
- 20:44Hi, she probably doesn't need a a huge introduction, but she is
- 20:50a clinician scientist and she was really instrumental in the
- 20:54early days of gene therapy and she continues to be a force out
- 20:59to today. You know, throughout my career,
- 21:03I've always been a champion of women in science.
- 21:05And, you know, sometimes I think women of my generation kind of
- 21:10had a struggle to figure out how to get ahead in science.
- 21:15But, you know, Kathy's a little bit older than I am, and I would
- 21:18love to hear her journey and how she overcame obstacles.
- 21:22You know, she started an early hemophilia gene therapy and then
- 21:27she broadened out and worked with Jean Bennett, who's also a
- 21:30pioneer in the field of of ophthalmology.
- 21:34And you know, she not only went from being a, an academic and
- 21:41working in active academic labs and teaching, but then she
- 21:45transitioned to industry and she was a Co founder of Spark
- 21:48therapeutic, CEO of VASPIO, and now she's ACEO of another
- 21:53ophthalmology company. And so I would really love to
- 21:57understand like she's a massive problem solver.
- 22:00She showed resilience and and true leadership in every
- 22:07discipline she's been in. So I'd really love to hear her
- 22:11journey and what she has to say to younger women's scientists
- 22:14today. Yeah, fantastic answer.
- 22:18Brilliant. No, look, we really appreciate
- 22:20you coming on, Pam. Like personally like really
- 22:22looking forward to, to seeing the successes that Laura has
- 22:25over the next few years as well. So yeah, thanks so much for
- 22:28coming on and and telling the story.
- 22:30Yeah, George, thank you so much for taking time to talk and hear
- 22:34about Leora. Yeah, we really hope we can
- 22:37bring these therapies to patients.
- 22:39Thank you. Fantastic.