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The Devil Wears Prada 2 Preview · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  ♪ Entertain me, entertain me, right now ♪
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  - Hello and welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
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  I'm Olivia, ready to chat with my fellow junkie.
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  - Sauna, and the occasional cat.
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  - You might be mowing in the background.
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  - You may mow.
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  - I don't know about you, but there are periods of times
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  where the MiaoMex commercial really invades my spirit.
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  And this week is one of those.
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  I've been mowing a lot.
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  Musical popular songs in the form of Miao.
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  - To the point that my co-workers are like,
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  she's Miao and again, she's Miao.
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  - She's Miao.
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  - If she comes, she's Miao.
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  - That's just what the inside of my brain looks like right now.
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  It's just Meow Central.
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  - I feel like a good portion of my marriage is Andrew
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  and I just mow and get each other.
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  Just, you added some extra Miao's in.
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  So we got five cats going.
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  And then we get really deep with it.
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  And we're like, you just don't understand MeowMeow, do you?
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  Like, I'm sorry, did you just not MeowMeow back
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  when I'm MeowMeow to you?
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  Can't just let me leave a MeowMeow here.
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  - No, no, no, no. - And get set MeowMeow life.
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  But we do. - They don't.
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  We do. - We got it.
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  The spirit of MeowMeow has entered your marriage.
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  Your marital bed. (laughs)
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  - How are you, my marital bed?
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  - We don't say it in there.
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  - Well, we probably have not during the marital act.
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  - Cause spice things up could get, you know,
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  real exciting.
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  - I love the first 10 minutes of our episode
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  are just gonna be talking about the inappropriate places
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  and when the correct timing is to MeowMeow at your partner.
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  - Yeah, yeah, I think it's always correct, you know?
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  - It's always correct.
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  - MeowMeow, anyway. (laughs)
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  - Any who's us.
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  - What are you gonna do? - Oh God, what have I been up to?
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  - I posted something on Instagram today.
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  You know those cute little, like,
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  you're April so far and then you choose like six pictures
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  and I tried to do it and all of my pictures were just like,
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  of cats.
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  I made some devil eggs.
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  - Ooh.
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  - That was about it.
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  Like, it's been a very just kind of like chill.
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  - Nothingness.
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  - You made devil eggs outside of Easter.
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  - Oh no, I made them on Easter.
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  Yeah, I have made them outside of Easter before.
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  Cause I remember that, like,
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  do you ever remember that you're an adult with free will
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  sometimes?
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  Like, and you can just not enough.
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  - Yeah.
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  Like, you could just make devil eggs.
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  Like, sometimes I'll just ultimately make egg.
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  - Yeah, and I'm like, I just wanna eat some devil eggs
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  and so I just made some and they were great.
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  Like, I did that with chocolate chip cookies last week.
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  I was like, we could really go for a cookie
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  and I was like, I have the ingredients and the intelligence
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  to make myself cookies.
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  So I'm gonna do it.
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  - That's beautiful.
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  I should do that because I did not make devil eggs
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  for Easter as I think we talked about last time.
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  You know what, you've inspired me.
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  I think I'm gonna make some devil eggs.
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  - You need to.
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  You're the egg queen.
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  - Just Jesus would have won at it.
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  - I need to look more.
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  I'm sure it has pagan history as most Christian holidays do,
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  but I don't know why we have bunnies and eggs on Easter.
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  Like, there's like a giant anthropomorphic rabbit
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  that shows up and steals your eggs or leaves you eggs.
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  Lays eggs?
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  - Leaves you eggs.
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  - The Easter Bunny leaves you eggs.
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  - Leaves eggs?
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  - Yeah, the Easter Bunny lays the eggs, right?
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  He lays the eggs.
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  That's what the Easter Bunny is.
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  - No, do you think real life bunnies?
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  - No, I know real bunnies.
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  - No, no, no.
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  (laughing)
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  - But the Easter Bunny transcends real bunny mechanics.
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  - Okay.
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  - He's like six feet tall.
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  - Yeah, total.
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  - He lays eggs in your house in the middle of the night.
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  - That's for Jesus.
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  - No notes.
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  - You know, for Jesus, for Jesus.
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  I think we talked about devil eggs last time.
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  So things are going well, guys.
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  - We're in trouble when we don't like it.
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  - Twice in one episode.
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  - We have to be out as we listen.
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  - Democracy is in a downfall.
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  Both of us are mentally ill.
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  We have cats and eggs to keep us afloat.
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  (laughing)
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  - Antigues, antsigues.
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  - Antigues, antsigues, antsigues, that's true.
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  - I went and saw the format again since we last recorded.
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  And it was beautiful.
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  I went to the Castro Theater, which just reopened
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  in San Francisco.
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  It's like iconic.
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  It's beautiful.
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  - No.
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  - I was trying to describe it to Blake.
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  Like what it looked like on the inside.
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  I was like, it's really pretty.
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  Like, imagine Lincoln getting shot.
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  (laughing)
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  - I imagine that all the time.
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  When I'm thinking about cats and eggs,
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  it's president Lincoln.
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  - You think about Lincoln.
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  - Assassination, yes.
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  - I think about, yeah, totally.
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  But it was a gorgeous theater.
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  We saw the format, which was a Phoenix band that broke up
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  and got back together.
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  They had their reunion show in October in Phoenix.
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  I actually got to go to that.
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  And then I was just scrolling on Instagram as one does.
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  And I saw that they were like at the Castro Theater
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  for like 40 bucks.
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  And I was like, oh my gosh.
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  - That's amazing.
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  - I mean, to say that it wasn't sold out.
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  I feel like the format always sells out so fast.
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  It was sold out on the theater website,
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  but Brie Sell was like 40 bucks.
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  And I was like, nice.
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  - Amazing.
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  I tried to do that.
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  Okay, so Sam Smith opened the Castro Theater.
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  He did a residency here for like,
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  almost two months at the Castro Theater.
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  I was trying to get tickets for that.
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  And it was like $300 for them.
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  And I was, I'm not gonna do that.
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  But I missed Kim Petrus coming out with him.
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  And also partying in the Castro.
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  So I really missed my chance there.
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  But I want to see Kim Petrus again
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  because I don't remember anything from when we saw her
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  'cause I was so drunk.
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  Oh my God.
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  - It was, okay, Kim Petrus is amazing.
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  I don't remember I playing about that.
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  - I don't remember I playing about this thing for like eight months.
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  And as her and I would typically do,
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  we're taking tequila shots in my apartment
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  with pickle juice, amazing combo,
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  it can't taste a thing, quite dangerous
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  because you cannot taste a thing.
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  - Yeah, I get black out.
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  - I buy us two drinks and Shawna immediately smacks
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  my bowl tall boy out of my hand and hers.
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  And I'm wearing like this long skirt and somehow
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  it hits the ground and shoots up.
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  And it hits the ground under my skirt.
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  So I just had like a phone.
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  So she buffs the white claw of high noon.
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  (laughing)
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  - I had a fountain of high noon in my skirts.
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  - Inside of you.
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  - I think we need to run it back
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  and in San Francisco, I'm like,
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  I agree and I will stay sober this time
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  and remember the show.
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  It'll be great.
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  (laughing)
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  - Yeah, maybe one tequila shot, not 10.
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  I'm in one.
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  - You know, and kids, that's how you remember concerts.
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  - Dude, I am never getting drunk at a concert like that again.
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  Like you pay all of this money to go see an artist
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  and then you get hammered and don't remember anything.
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  Like I was totally stone cold sober for Lady Gaga
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  and I remember every little minute detail of that show.
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  And then I saw, it went by myself to see Bob Moses
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  and cannons maybe like a month ago.
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  And sover and lovely time.
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  - A lovely time.
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  - Simply lovely.
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  - Yeah, I think as I get older,
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  I'm like, I wanna remember this more.
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  I do.
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  - The only concert I like fully cannot remember
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  was "Modest Mouse" in the black,
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  or the black eyed kids.
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  - That would be a great show.
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  - That would be a really funny combo.
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  But yeah, "Modest Mouse" in the black keys.
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  And yeah, I made some bad decisions that night.
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  And you know, not good, not good.
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  - That's what guys.
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  - So, you know, I think we've learned our lesson there.
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  - I don't remember the calm times.
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  - In 2006.
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  - Yeah.
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  - That's okay, that's fine.
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  Look at us now.
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  - Speaking of 2006.
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  - Yeah, now it's time to gird your loins everyone.
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  We're talking about the Devil Where's Prada.
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  And if you're listening to this episode on the dates
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  released, 'cause you love us.
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  The sequel to the 2006 movie opens tomorrow
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  or shoot, there may be a preview screening today.
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  So we thought that we would really revisit
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  this absolutely iconic movie about fashion,
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  ambition, dealing with shitty friends
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  in the boss from hell.
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  So, Shonda, where were you?
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  The first time you saw Devil Where's Prada,
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  take me back to 2006.
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  - Ooh, the way back machine.
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  I was in junior high school.
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  - Ooh, cute.
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  - Thank you, I was cute.
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  I don't remember seeing this for the first time,
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  but I mean, I love this movie.
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  It's a great movie.
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  And then rewatched it for this episode obviously.
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  And my husband had never seen it.
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  I don't know, sometimes like, quote unquote,
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  girly movies.
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  He'll watch them, he doesn't care.
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  Like he's seen stuff before.
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  This one slipped his radar, so he watched it with me.
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  He really liked it too.
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  But there are definitely some parts of this movie
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  that don't age very well.
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  But, you know, it was, it's 20 years old.
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  But overall, I think as a film, it really does.
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  And I love like the cultural discourse around it.
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  Like people have been breaking this movie down for years.
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  Like, who was the real villain?
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  Like, who was the worst person in the movie?
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  Who was actually a good person?
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  And I love this movie.
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  What about you?
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  - I absolutely loved it.
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  I actually remember exactly where I was.
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  When I first watched this movie, I was in Chicago
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  visiting my aunt, my uncle, my cousin.
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  And my parents were there as well.
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  And we all family watched this.
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  - No.
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  - And it's just like everybody loved it.
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  - Yeah.
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  - It is truly like such a, I mean, like there are problems
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  with certain phrases and things of the time.
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  But I think that this movie is really great
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  at connecting with audiences of all ages at the time
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  and even today.
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  And it's just incredibly iconic.
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  It has Merrill Streep and Halfway, Emily Blunt,
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  Stanley Tucci, Simone Baker and Adrian Grineer.
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  - Grineer, I think, yeah.
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  - Yeah, Adrian Grineer, Hottie.
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  Oh, he's so hot.
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  He's so fun.
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  - It's definitely like, I mean, it's a little like sexual
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  and like adult, but not overtly so.
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  So, you know, even like the one like sex scene
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  and it just kind of like they kiss
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  and then they wake up in bed the next day.
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  So it's definitely like, you can watch it with your family
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  without you know, being all awkward
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  in front of your parents.
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  Not that you ever would.
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  You watch Nicole Kidman get her ass eaten out
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  when we're dead.
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  (laughing)
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  - RIP, RIP.
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  - Love you John.
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  - What the fuck are you guys watching?
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  - Truly, you know, almost those moments.
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  - Yeah, so I actually did not know this
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  until the second movie was coming out.
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  It is based on the book, The Devil Wars Prada
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  by Lauren Weisberger.
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  And it was directed by David Frankel
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  and was adapted to a screenplay by Eileen Brosh McKenna.
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  And it is just ultimately such an iconic movie.
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  If you were unaware, The Devil Wars Prada is based on
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  Anna Winter.
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  - From Go.
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  - Yep, there we go, oh my God.
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  - I got you baby.
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  - In the case.
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  - It's like you were like when Emily
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  had her little blackout moment
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  and couldn't remember the name of it.
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  That's what I'd come up with stairs.
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  And then Andy was like, that's the ambassador.
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  - I got you.
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  - So it's based on Anna Winter,
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  promising her an image.
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  She's been quite a long day.
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  And Anna Winter is ultimately like an iconic figure
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  in "Vogue, American Vogue's History."
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  She came from British Vogue and then came to "American Vogue"
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  and made it what it is.
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  If you've actually, if you watch this movie and you're like,
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  dang, I really wanna know like who the real life inspiration
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  for Miranda Priestly's character
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  or the character of Miranda Priestly.
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  Watch "Vogue" in the 90s.
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  It is so, so interesting.
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  - Oh, is that a documentary?
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  - Yes, and it's interesting.
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  - So it's honestly one of the best fashion documentaries
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  I've ever seen.
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  - I always wanna watch a documentary
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  and then I sit there in front of the TV
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  and I'm like, Olivia has mentioned a documentary
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  every single episode of this show.
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  And in that moment I can never think of anything.
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  So I need you to take a look.
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  - You just gotta get a PCJ pops.
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  - Yes.
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  - PCJ pops, you know.
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  - And I'm in a chatroom show.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I'll have to check that out.
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  And Anna went to her is definitely well known
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  as a tough person to work for.
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  Just like, Miranda Priestly is.
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  Very particular abrasive, a tough person wants things
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  done correctly and if they are not, then she will let you know.
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  And in the movie, Miranda is a terrible boss to work for.
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  Like, we'll just say that.
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  She's a terrible boss.
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  She's complicated and like they show like
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  a little human side of her towards the end.
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  But I would never in a million years work for her.
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  Absolutely not.
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  - So, I don't know what the says about me,
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  but I think the older I get, the less I think that she's
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  a terrible person.
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  I think that she is a cold person.
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  - Yes.
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  I don't think she's a bad person.
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  I think she's a bad boss.
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  - Yeah, I think that like to think about running
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  the biggest fashion magazine in all of the world
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  and you have an assistant, right?
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  And like your job as an assistant is to like manage
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  that person's life in so many different ways.
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  And like your job is to ultimately like make
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  that person's life easier.
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  So I do think it is like the old and maybe I'm just like
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  a corporate slave at this point and like I'm so being jealous.
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  Olivia will find that Harry Potter manuscript.
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  God damn it.
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  - I'll find it.
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  Dude, we always watch you guys with Andrew
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  and like the scene where Miranda is stranded in Florida
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  and like demands that Andy gets her a plane out.
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  And it's like it's just a little rain
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  and then it cuts to like a full blown of her, okay?
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  And outside Andrew's yelling at the TV,
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  how is she supposed to do that?
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  How can she do that?
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  How can she be so serious?
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  - No, they're definitely doing that.
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  - Where you're like, okay, whatever.
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  - Yeah.
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  - But yeah, no, I think that it's such an interesting thing.
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  And when I think some of that may be like my respect
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  for Anna Windtour, I do think that she is a very successful woman
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  who grew up like grew to the superstar
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  and the person that she is today in a time that like women
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  who were doing everything men were doing
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  were beaches and things like that.
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  - And Andy even says that in the news.
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  - Yeah, she's like, if, you know Miranda was a man,
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  you guys would be calling her a leader and amazing
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  instead of like the dragon woman or the bitch.
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  But like, you know, I understand you have to be cold
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  and calculating in this business.
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  Like she is at the end when she kind of fucks Nigel over.
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  By the way, we're gonna be talking spoilers
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  for this movie that came out 20 years ago.
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  - For sure.
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  (laughing)
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  So she fucks Nigel over and that's when Andy kind of has
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  her realization of like, I don't want this life.
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  I don't want to career that I have to stab people
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  in the back for.
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  But I do think that she has that mutual respect
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  with Miranda where it's like, and you do and that's fine.
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  You know, they see each other at the end
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  and they wave and kind of nod at each other.
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  So in the end, I don't think she has any like,
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  wow, that lady was a crazy bitch.
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  She's just like, that's, this isn't what I want for my life,
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  but that's okay.
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  - Yeah, ultimately, and I think, you know,
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  to go back to the older you get the more you like,
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  reframe on it, I think that when you first go
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  through this movie, right?
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  This movie really is like all about like perspective, right?
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  So you're coming from Andy Sax's point of view
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  who is, you know, one thing about Anne Hathaway,
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  she is phenomenal in a makeup or makeup,
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  in a makeup or a print of styries,
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  print of styries, blueprint.
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  Devil Wars product made it even better.
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  You know, I don't know how long she's so from me,
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  but like Anne Hathaway is so gorgeous.
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  - She got, God forbid a woman wears a sweater.
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  Like, oh my gosh, yeah, that is one of the crazier things
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  about rewatching it.
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  And again, like in the 2000s, like we were just seeing
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  like perfect stick skin or like,
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  like, women who like, yeah, I think that we were like,
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  wow, she's so frumpy.
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  She has like, naturally wavy hair going.
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  She's, you know, not dressed like someone who would be at Vogue.
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  - And she's a size six.
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  There's a running joke throughout the entire movie
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  that she's fat.
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  She is literally a size six, which is not fat.
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  I kept looking at my husband and going,
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  by the way, that's not fat.
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  That's not fat.
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  And he's like, I know that's not fat.
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  And I'm like, like the things that we were being sold,
• 18:29
  you know, it's like the, oh gosh, Bridget Jones diary
• 18:32
  and she was like 135 pounds and the whole plot of that movie
• 18:36
  is that she's such a fat ass.
• 18:38
  - I wish I was 135 pounds.
• 18:40
  - Literally.
• 18:41
  Same.
• 18:42
  So I do think that that didn't age well.
• 18:44
  I know that it's a joke and it's supposed to be like a commentary.
• 18:49
  But at a certain point, it loses being a commentary
• 18:53
  and just becomes body shaming, especially when he,
• 18:55
  he's like, you bet your size six ass and she's like four.
• 18:59
  Like, you know, she, ooh, I'm skinny now.
• 19:01
  And it's like, ooh, like instead of her being like,
• 19:04
  you guys know that I'm not fat, right?
• 19:07
  - You guys, you guys all know that, right?
• 19:09
  Like, I just want to make sure that we're all clear
• 19:11
  that we all know that I'm not fat.
• 19:13
  And even if I was, so the fuck.
• 19:14
  - Yeah, I think it goes back to like,
• 19:17
  - It is a product of the time, right?
• 19:18
  Like we did our America's Next Top Model episode.
• 19:21
  We're really talking about like a size six is plus size.
• 19:24
  Don't make my God.
• 19:25
  - It absolutely is not.
• 19:27
  Like I'm a size eight to a size six, depending on clothes.
• 19:30
  - Literally, I was telling Edra, I'm like, I'm a six.
• 19:33
  (laughing)
• 19:35
  - Right, and body types are different.
• 19:37
  And you know, if you're a size 12,
• 19:39
  you're still hot as hell.
• 19:42
  - Literally, you care.
• 19:43
  - Literally, you, everybody's body is different
• 19:45
  and they're all beautiful there.
• 19:48
  But yeah, I think like that is a really big thing within it.
• 19:51
  And I think they do a good job at kind of making her,
• 19:56
  like really early on feel avert,
• 19:59
  just joining into this.
• 20:00
  Like if you think about fashion gurus today,
• 20:05
  and that kind of like culture of like,
• 20:09
  oh, should now I know these spring collections,
• 20:11
  I know all of these things,
• 20:13
  and just have like such a sense of like knowledge
• 20:16
  and worship to these people, someone who comes in,
• 20:18
  he's like, I just need a job
• 20:20
  and this is a really big magazine.
• 20:22
  - Oh yeah.
• 20:23
  - And then come in.
• 20:23
  - Of course they would be like, why are you here?
• 20:26
  - Yeah, like we respect this so much.
• 20:28
  And this is something that we care about so much.
• 20:31
  And she, you know, she does make it clear like,
• 20:35
  oh God, I'm just, I'm a little better than all of this.
• 20:37
  Oh, you guys were thinking about that.
• 20:39
  No, I'm, you know, Andy does like,
• 20:42
  I'm not like other girls.
• 20:44
  - Yeah, they put her down for being humongous.
• 20:46
  - They put her down for being humongous.
• 20:47
  - Yeah, she's a little like, well, I'm smart.
• 20:50
  You know, and I do like that she is like, okay,
• 20:53
  well, I do, if I care about this job
• 20:55
  and I wanna keep it,
• 20:56
  I do need to start kind of stepping up a little bit
• 20:58
  and listening and learning and caring, you know,
• 21:01
  to the detriment of her relationship with her dear boy
• 21:05
  for Nate.
• 21:06
  Let's talk about Nate a little bit.
• 21:09
  What do you think about Nate?
• 21:11
  - Let's talk about the friends.
• 21:12
  Let's talk about the friends.
• 21:14
  Well, first of all, he's fine as hell.
• 21:16
  I'm gonna say that.
• 21:17
  - He is fine as well.
• 21:19
  - Yeah.
• 21:20
  - Adrian, can you say something?
• 21:21
  - Yeah, I think that, yeah, I think that is my,
• 21:26
  partner, like, started working at this place
• 21:30
  and then missed my birthday.
• 21:31
  I would feel a little upset about it.
• 21:33
  (laughs)
• 21:35
  - I think so.
• 21:36
  - And I started to feel like they lost a sense of themselves.
• 21:40
  But at the same time, like, I think that,
• 21:43
  that is part of like growing up.
• 21:44
  And I think that he's probably not a bad person.
• 21:48
  Like, I think that we really demonize him.
• 21:50
  Like, it's a, like, decent person, wrong,
• 21:54
  wrong fit in a relationship where neither of them understood.
• 21:59
  - Yeah, the other ones needs at the time.
• 22:04
  And it's like, they were probably really cute through college
• 22:06
  and they had like the same goals and stuff.
• 22:08
  But then as you get older, your goals changed from your partners,
• 22:11
  especially 'cause they're both like in their early 20s
• 22:14
  in this movie.
• 22:15
  She says that she just graduated college.
• 22:18
  I don't know, like, Andrew and I were talking.
• 22:20
  And I was like, if I had to work one job for one year,
• 22:22
  I would change my life.
• 22:24
  But I needed to miss your birthday.
• 22:28
  And he's like, I hate my birthday anyway.
• 22:30
  (laughs)
• 22:30
  But I'm like, okay, but at like 23,
• 22:33
  it probably would have been devastating.
• 22:35
  At 37, he's like, can we not have a birthday actually?
• 22:39
  Can you just get my birthday?
• 22:41
  - Yeah.
• 22:41
  - It's like, it can be very scheduled, right?
• 22:43
  - Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 22:44
  - But they seem like they had a whole party and stuff planned.
• 22:47
  I don't know.
• 22:48
  I see them both messing up in this relationship.
• 22:51
  And her friends kind of suck too.
• 22:53
  Her girlfriend is all happy that she gets the bag.
• 22:56
  - I think that she gets the bag more than him.
• 22:57
  - Yeah, right.
• 22:59
  She's all excited that she gets the purse,
• 23:01
  but then they're minute her boss calls her.
• 23:03
  They all play keep away with her phone.
• 23:04
  I'm like, who does that?
• 23:06
  You know that she's afraid she's gonna get fired at any minute.
• 23:10
  Calm down, you guys.
• 23:11
  - Yeah, yeah.
• 23:12
  I think what the movie, in itself,
• 23:17
  and a lot of my nitpicky things is,
• 23:19
  they really put down fashion as something
• 23:24
  an intellectual can do.
• 23:26
  - Yes.
• 23:27
  - And it's not worth, it's something women like,
• 23:30
  and it's not something that is valuable,
• 23:34
  and it's something women and shallow stupid people like.
• 23:38
  But I do think that they,
• 23:40
  I'm glad that she has that one friend.
• 23:42
  She has the token 2000s gay friend,
• 23:44
  who is in her two young kids.
• 23:46
  - Yeah.
• 23:47
  - But in Miranda, it makes it clear
• 23:50
  that she's a very intelligent woman,
• 23:52
  like that whole speech,
• 23:53
  and she's like,
• 23:54
  "You think that that Cerulean sweater
• 23:55
  "has nothing to do with you iconic, of course."
• 23:58
  But she breaks down the history of what designers did
• 24:03
  Cerulean and their shows to trickle down
• 24:06
  to the department stores,
• 24:07
  to the Ross eventually,
• 24:10
  where Andy probably got it,
• 24:12
  the supply chain, to supply in demand.
• 24:15
  And it's like,
• 24:16
  just because people dress hot,
• 24:19
  and this is what they're working in,
• 24:20
  doesn't mean they're stupid.
• 24:22
  And I think Andy realizes that by the end, too.
• 24:25
  A lot can be said for if Emily is a good person or not,
• 24:29
  or if she just really pictures this life for herself,
• 24:33
  that she doesn't want anyone to get in the way of.
• 24:35
  - Yeah, I think that this movie has so many iconic lines,
• 24:40
  like the sweater speech,
• 24:42
  we have four-hours for spring,
• 24:44
  ground breaking.
• 24:45
  - Breaking.
• 24:47
  - Gerger lines, right?
• 24:49
  There's so many different,
• 24:51
  like really good ones. - Don't be ridiculous, Andrea,
• 24:52
  everybody wants this.
• 24:54
  - Yeah.
• 24:55
  Or sometimes when I'm really, really hungry
• 24:58
  and I haven't eaten all day,
• 24:59
  I'm like, I need a cheese cube.
• 25:01
  Like, - Yeah.
• 25:03
  - Emily.
• 25:03
  - I don't eat.
• 25:04
  And then when I feel like I'm gonna pass out,
• 25:06
  I eat a cube of cheese.
• 25:08
  - Yeah, I have a single cube of cheese.
• 25:10
  (laughing)
• 25:12
  It's called Girl Dinner.
• 25:14
  I know there's so many lines in this movie
• 25:16
  and so many memes that you don't realize it
• 25:18
  until you rewatch it.
• 25:19
  And I was like,
• 25:20
  "Oh, Andrea, that's where that meme comes from."
• 25:23
  Oh yeah, that's that meme.
• 25:25
  Like, I've never seen that meme before.
• 25:27
  - Yeah, I absolutely think there's,
• 25:29
  like, it's just such a great, great movie.
• 25:33
  Whenever we were planning to do this episode,
• 25:36
  I was like,
• 25:38
  okay, what are some fun facts
• 25:40
  about the Devil Wars Prada,
• 25:43
  Merrill Streep based Miranda's voice on Clint Eastwood.
• 25:48
  (laughing)
• 25:48
  What?
• 25:49
  (laughing)
• 25:51
  She said it 'cause it was calm, quiet and terrifying.
• 25:54
  - Oh, you know what?
• 25:55
  I could see that one of Miranda's most terrifying,
• 25:58
  like monologues in this is when she misses the twins,
• 26:03
  like, recital or whatever.
• 26:05
  She's like, it was wonderful.
• 26:07
  However, I didn't see it because I was not there.
• 26:12
  Just like so quiet and calm, but like lethal.
• 26:17
  Like, you know, take a chance on the smart fat girl.
• 26:22
  - I just like, oh my God, it's so just like,
• 26:25
  (laughing)
• 26:25
  - Oh, stab to the gut.
• 26:27
  - Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:29
  And, you know, some quick firing off,
• 26:32
  Emily Blunt was actually sick during filming.
• 26:36
  And so on those scenes where she's on the verge of collapse
• 26:40
  is actually quite true.
• 26:41
  - That's so fun.
• 26:42
  - When she was truly very, very sick.
• 26:44
  And then, their costume budget, which is,
• 26:47
  I mean, the clothing in it,
• 26:49
  it's a fashion movie, you would think it's gorgeous.
• 26:51
  - It's gorgeous.
• 26:51
  - It would be high.
• 26:53
  It was at $1 million,
• 26:55
  which was one of the biggest budgets at the time.
• 26:58
  - Okay.
• 26:59
  - And we have the iconic Patricia Field
• 27:01
  from Sex in the City,
• 27:03
  who helped influence the styling direction.
• 27:08
  - That makes sense.
• 27:09
  The clothes are so good.
• 27:10
  And most of them, I think still,
• 27:12
  like I could see myself wearing that 20 years later.
• 27:15
  She has like one or two outfits that seem a little dated.
• 27:18
  - For the most part.
• 27:20
  - Yeah, the little hat.
• 27:21
  But most of the sessions where,
• 27:24
  I'm like gorgeous, gorgeous wearing that, yep, nailed it.
• 27:28
  So timeless, timeless fashion.
• 27:31
  - Yeah, and we see,
• 27:36
  this is where I learned what Paris Fashion Week was
• 27:38
  for someone who grew up in the Midwest.
• 27:42
  Those scenes were actually filmed
• 27:44
  in a Paris Fashion Week
• 27:46
  and a lot of designers
• 27:48
  loaned real couture pieces.
• 27:51
  Again, like this is based on Anna Winter.
• 27:55
  They wanted to ultimately be kind of a piece of that.
• 27:59
  And make sure that the fashion was good.
• 28:04
  And Anne Hathaway was not going to be the first choice.
• 28:07
  Several new dresses turned the roll down.
• 28:10
  - Oh, okay.
• 28:11
  - So I can't imagine it.
• 28:13
  No, I can't imagine it without her either.
• 28:15
  She's such a good actress.
• 28:16
  And like you mentioned earlier,
• 28:18
  she does have that great quality of being like,
• 28:21
  just kind of the every girl.
• 28:23
  Like, you know, she's,
• 28:24
  each girl cheeses and drinks beer in our apartment
• 28:27
  and has wavy hair or god forbid.
• 28:29
  But like, and then, you know, the makeover scene.
• 28:32
  And like you see that kind of like change
• 28:34
  of her through the whole movie.
• 28:36
  And at the end, after she quits,
• 28:38
  you could see that she's kept a little bit of both.
• 28:40
  She has that like cute leather jacket on
• 28:42
  with like the night.
• 28:43
  So it's like, she still has like the fashion sense
• 28:47
  and then she still has herself
• 28:48
  just a little more like refined.
• 28:50
  So.
• 28:51
  - I love that detail.
• 28:52
  - I think the montage of her
• 28:54
  once Stanley Tucci gives her
• 28:56
  the makeover. - Yes.
• 28:57
  - Is probably one of my favorite
• 28:59
  2000s movie montages.
• 29:02
  - To Vogue, right?
• 29:03
  - And it's just so good.
• 29:04
  It's so good. - So good.
• 29:05
  - Yeah, like all the different outfits.
• 29:06
  She's like getting the coffee, she's running,
• 29:09
  she's catching the clouds.
• 29:10
  - Holding the colors. - Oh, yeah.
• 29:12
  (laughing)
• 29:13
  - I love it.
• 29:14
  She's not bumbling anymore.
• 29:16
  - Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:19
  So we're gonna take a quick break.
• 29:21
  - And we'll be right back.
• 29:22
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• 29:26
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• 29:27
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• 29:29
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• 29:57
  And so, as you probably know,
• 30:00
  and as we mentioned at the top of the episode,
• 30:02
  we have the Devil Wars product to coming out
• 30:06
  and we are so unbelievably excited about it.
• 30:10
  Now I mentioned. - I have a question.
• 30:11
  - Good.
• 30:12
  I know, dude.
• 30:13
  Okay, as someone who hates a sequel,
• 30:17
  - It's new.
• 30:17
  - It normally refuses to watch it.
• 30:19
  I am an accepted sequel.
• 30:21
  - Especially.
• 30:22
  - Yes.
• 30:23
  - If it's a planned sequel, then yes.
• 30:25
  But if it's like a 20 years later,
• 30:27
  nostalgia bait sequel, most of the time,
• 30:31
  those aren't very good.
• 30:32
  So I really hope that this is good.
• 30:35
  - There is a Devil Wars product to book.
• 30:38
  - Yes.
• 30:39
  - That's good.
• 30:40
  - That gets me in the book canon,
• 30:42
  where ultimately, there is some source material
• 30:46
  that they are pulling from.
• 30:48
  And I think personally,
• 30:50
  like I have a lot of faith in Meryl Strebe,
• 30:55
  - Yes.
• 30:56
  - In Halfway and Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci.
• 30:58
  - Shit.
• 30:59
  - The cast is stacked to hell.
• 31:01
  Like it's gonna be, the acting is gonna be superb.
• 31:05
  It's just like when the movie ended,
• 31:07
  we looked at each other and we're like,
• 31:09
  why would she go back there?
• 31:11
  Why would she work for Miranda again?
• 31:13
  But I think I, you know, kind of watching the previews,
• 31:16
  it kind of explains why.
• 31:17
  So.
• 31:18
  - Yes.
• 31:19
  - Yeah.
• 31:20
  And so we wanted to just kind of run through
• 31:23
  our predictions for the Devil Wars product.
• 31:26
  Obviously we know some things about the movie.
• 31:29
  As soon as this thing started filming,
• 31:31
  we were getting stills so much,
• 31:35
  which does freak me out for movies.
• 31:37
  Like if you think of like it ends with us,
• 31:39
  oh God, we knew too much too early about that.
• 31:42
  And look how that one turned out.
• 31:43
  But.
• 31:44
  - I know.
• 31:44
  And we got like still shots of the,
• 31:46
  the now canceled Buffy sequel from "Busy."
• 31:50
  - Yes.
• 31:51
  - We had like those behind the scene photos
• 31:52
  of Sarah Michelle Geller.
• 31:54
  And, you know, everyone was like,
• 31:56
  why is she dressed like that and I got canceled?
• 31:58
  But that's okay.
• 32:00
  It's fine.
• 32:01
  I think this can go well.
• 32:05
  - I have to say that.
• 32:06
  - Yeah.
• 32:06
  And based on the trailers,
• 32:07
  really what we've seen is this is 20 years later.
• 32:11
  So it is kind of following the time, right?
• 32:13
  It's coming out in 2026.
• 32:15
  And Miranda Priestly is still running runway magazine.
• 32:20
  However, it is going to follow the real world struggles
• 32:25
  of publication today, right?
• 32:27
  The print media is really struggling to stay afloat
• 32:32
  and tensions are high.
• 32:34
  And so from what we can tell from the trailers
• 32:38
  that we've seen,
• 32:40
  Miranda seeks help from a familiar assistant.
• 32:45
  - Who is now quite successful.
• 32:47
  Andy Sacks goes on to get a job in news media
• 32:51
  as we see at the end of the first film.
• 32:55
  But here's everything we kind of know so far.
• 32:58
  - Yes.
• 32:59
  So as you mentioned,
• 33:00
  it's set in present day world of print journalism,
• 33:02
  which is, when was the last time you picked up
• 33:05
  a thread magazine?
• 33:06
  Like the airport every once in a while,
• 33:08
  I will for like nostalgia purposes.
• 33:11
  And if I forgot a book.
• 33:13
  I mean, I used to be a subscriber to Cosmopolitan.
• 33:17
  I subscribed to Teen Vogue.
• 33:19
  I never got to Vogue.
• 33:21
  It just when I was like a teenager in my early 20s,
• 33:23
  I had Teen Vogue.
• 33:24
  I had a glamour subscription for years.
• 33:27
  But the last time I actually bought a magazine,
• 33:29
  I think it was just at an airport as like a,
• 33:31
  what off.
• 33:33
  - Yeah, I don't think I buy a physical Vogue magazine,
• 33:37
  but I have read quite a bit of Vogue articles recently,
• 33:41
  but yeah, I think a lot of it has moved online.
• 33:44
  - Oh my gosh.
• 33:45
  I mean, the last like physical,
• 33:47
  the thing I read was a restoration hardware.
• 33:50
  - Oh my gosh.
• 33:51
  - It was all like,
• 33:52
  - It was like,
• 33:53
  beautiful couches.
• 33:55
  Way out of my pricering.
• 33:57
  - Anytime I go to those dollars for a couch.
• 33:59
  - She's, anytime I go to the doctor's office
• 34:01
  or like my therapist, I'll see like,
• 34:03
  oh, better home and garden from six years ago.
• 34:06
  Maybe I'll flip through that and learn a thing.
• 34:08
  - Do.
• 34:09
  - But yeah, I agree.
• 34:10
  - I agree.
• 34:10
  - Oh good.
• 34:12
  A lot of it's moved online.
• 34:14
  And team Vogue has amazing articles.
• 34:17
  And I do think that magazines now kind of have
• 34:19
  that great mix of like fashion and stuff,
• 34:22
  but it's also moved away from like,
• 34:24
  how to lose 20 pounds in six hours
• 34:27
  and get the abs of your dreams and win him back.
• 34:30
  I do also remember reading magazines back in the day
• 34:32
  that would like,
• 34:33
  give you like sex tips.
• 34:36
  - Oh, a lot of it.
• 34:39
  - It was around like,
• 34:40
  how to play with your man's balls.
• 34:43
  Like, don't forget the balls.
• 34:44
  - Why didn't we have so many questions?
• 34:46
  - Yeah, don't forget those balls.
• 34:48
  So now anytime I journey to that area,
• 34:52
  I'm like, well Cosmo told me I should never forget your balls.
• 34:56
  - Yeah, you know, never do, never do.
• 34:58
  And that's why we need print media back.
• 35:00
  - To learn how to not neglect the testicles, ladies.
• 35:05
  - Is fondle the balls, you know?
• 35:07
  - Fondle the balls.
• 35:08
  - We also know that Aetring Grenier is not coming back.
• 35:13
  Obviously him and Andy are together after 20 years.
• 35:16
  - Obviously.
• 35:17
  - Yeah, thank God.
• 35:18
  Thank God.
• 35:19
  He was like a little salty about it.
• 35:21
  Like he was kind of like making some statements about it.
• 35:25
  - But I do think he came around because recently,
• 35:28
  the Devil Wears Prada and Starbucks have a collaboration
• 35:31
  because Capitalism and they featured Aetring Grenier
• 35:35
  in one of the commercials.
• 35:37
  It's really funny.
• 35:38
  And he's ordering a drink and like going on about Nate
• 35:42
  to the barista and then it cuts to the barista
• 35:44
  and he's just like, okay.
• 35:46
  And then he's like, let's leave Nate in 2026.
• 35:51
  And let's have our energy refreshers to, you know,
• 35:53
  it comes back to being a Starbucks.
• 35:55
  And Devil Wears Prada to like collab commercial.
• 35:59
  And so it seems like he's in on the joke now,
• 36:01
  probably because he got a nice paycheck for that commercial.
• 36:04
  - Yeah, for sure.
• 36:05
  - He was like, he was quite salty in the beginning.
• 36:08
  Like I wasn't asked back and then I think he was like,
• 36:11
  oh shoot, I need to dial that back.
• 36:14
  And you know, he got a little bit of brand deal out of it.
• 36:18
  - Good man.
• 36:19
  - Well something that makes me feel quite hopeful
• 36:21
  going into this is the original screenwriter,
• 36:25
  director and producer were tapped for this project.
• 36:29
  - Yes.
• 36:30
  - And so I feel like the original actors,
• 36:35
  Sans, Adrian, the original director, screenwriter, producer.
• 36:40
  I feel like we're gonna get some good stuff ultimately
• 36:45
  and really just know that we're in good hands.
• 36:48
  But I mean, okay.
• 36:49
  I didn't, I purposely did not look up
• 36:53
  what happens in the book.
• 36:55
  - Yeah, I don't know either.
• 36:56
  - You've seen anything about it.
• 36:57
  Okay, so this will be fun.
• 37:00
  - Yes, I have gathered from the trailers
• 37:03
  that Emily doesn't work there anymore.
• 37:05
  Thank God, 'cause it's been a 20 years, right?
• 37:09
  - Yeah.
• 37:10
  - And she was at the very beginning of her career too.
• 37:12
  She was in her early 20s.
• 37:14
  It seems like maybe she moved on to like another big magazine
• 37:17
  or she's running something.
• 37:19
  Stanley Tucci's character is still working there.
• 37:22
  It kind of seems like which is shocking to me.
• 37:25
  Like has he not got the-- - After the betrayal.
• 37:27
  - Yeah, after the betrayal and after, you know,
• 37:29
  he's like, she'll pay me back when it means,
• 37:32
  you know, when the time comes and you know,
• 37:33
  even Andy's like, are you sure about that?
• 37:35
  But like, has he not?
• 37:37
  Like hopefully he's like the vice president or something.
• 37:40
  - Yeah.
• 37:41
  - I'm hoping that Miranda retires at the end of the movie
• 37:44
  and maybe has a hint of a personal life.
• 37:48
  I don't know, I'm hoping, and you know,
• 37:50
  they teased it in the first movie.
• 37:51
  She's got the twins, she's going through like a subsequent
• 37:54
  divorce, you know, she tries to hide her personal life
• 37:59
  from anyone, but like, I hope she has a little bit more
• 38:01
  of a hint of a personal life in this movie.
• 38:04
  And maybe Andy helps her kind of get in touch with that
• 38:07
  in some way and then I hope she retires.
• 38:10
  - Okay, okay, you're saying
• 38:11
  that Miranda priestly retirement there.
• 38:15
  So I think that from what I can say,
• 38:18
  I think that Emily Blanc's character is going to be
• 38:22
  kind of like a minutes to Miranda priestly.
• 38:25
  Like I think that she's going to be finally getting
• 38:29
  her come-up ends in a way.
• 38:30
  - Yeah.
• 38:31
  And you know, I could, if I were thinking like, okay,
• 38:36
  2006, 20 years later, Andy Sacks comes back
• 38:41
  to Runway magazine, is it going to end with her becoming
• 38:46
  editor-in-chief of her life?
• 38:48
  - Oh God.
• 38:50
  - But then she would be doing it tonight, although,
• 38:54
  but like she would also, she would become that person.
• 38:59
  - So I don't know, now you bring that up.
• 39:03
  Like I could see them doing it where Andy Sacks
• 39:06
  like becomes that person.
• 39:08
  Now if you look at like the trailer,
• 39:10
  it does seem like she becomes more of like a fashion girl
• 39:14
  in like a fashion forward person.
• 39:16
  - Oh yeah, she looks amazing, but I also think because,
• 39:20
  like if you think of Sex and the City to the movie, right?
• 39:23
  It's terrible movie.
• 39:24
  (laughs)
• 39:25
  But it was definitely horrible movie,
• 39:27
  but it leaned in a lot to the fashion
• 39:29
  and it kind of like went over the top with the fashion.
• 39:33
  And I'm thinking that's probably what this movie will do.
• 39:35
  Like be over the top with the fashion.
• 39:38
  I'm hoping like there's an explanation of why
• 39:41
  Andy's dressed like in designer coacher.
• 39:44
  Like I hope she makes enough money to do that.
• 39:47
  'Cause otherwise it's like, how the fuck is she affording this?
• 39:50
  But if she's, you know, working like,
• 39:51
  she has a high paying job, then sure.
• 39:53
  And I hope it kind of stays true to like,
• 39:56
  yeah, she's, you know, dress is really well
• 39:58
  because she's a, you know, 40-some odd year old woman
• 40:01
  with a strong career.
• 40:02
  She's a business woman, but hopefully she still has
• 40:05
  that kind of down to earth like, you know,
• 40:09
  dress is like a normal person would dress.
• 40:12
  I don't know.
• 40:13
  - Okay.
• 40:14
  - Okay.
• 40:15
  - I like that.
• 40:16
  So you're, you'd say, I think it's gonna be Emily
• 40:19
  more than Andy getting--
• 40:21
  - I think getting, yeah.
• 40:23
  - Or getting runway.
• 40:24
  - I hope Emily gets runway in the end,
• 40:27
  but I hope that she also has,
• 40:29
  'cause we saw softer moments of Emily
• 40:30
  throughout the first movie, right?
• 40:32
  Where she genuinely says thank you to Andy
• 40:35
  for helping her on the red carpet at the end
• 40:38
  when she's like, you have very big shoes to fill
• 40:40
  to the poor new assistant.
• 40:42
  - I hope we have softer Andy with, you know,
• 40:45
  the little zingers that she's known,
• 40:47
  or I'm sorry, softer Emily.
• 40:49
  But I could see her Nigel kind of tag teaming.
• 40:51
  Like, Meryl Streep is 76 years old.
• 40:54
  Now, I mean, you know, obviously we have people
• 40:58
  who work in fucking government in their 80s,
• 41:00
  who should probably retire, but, you know,
• 41:02
  I hope you hear Meryl.
• 41:04
  - Meryl Streep has earned her retirement,
• 41:06
  and maybe go on an island somewhere
• 41:08
  and kick back with a cocktail
• 41:10
  and not answer her emails every five seconds.
• 41:12
  But I don't know, that's what I'm hoping for.
• 41:15
  Maybe she's grandma Meryl now too.
• 41:18
  The twins are in their 30s now.
• 41:22
  - Yeah, I feel like one of those twins has to be gay
• 41:25
  and we're gonna get some, you know, gay,
• 41:27
  Gen Z jokes of like, yes, like Queen.
• 41:31
  (laughing)
• 41:33
  - There's gonna be so much.
• 41:34
  - I feel like they're really gonna lean in the mouth.
• 41:36
  - There's gonna be forced Gen Z humor.
• 41:39
  There are not gonna be any fat jokes.
• 41:41
  There's not gonna be a single.
• 41:43
  - That's part of our productions as well.
• 41:45
  - Yes, my prediction is may actually be
• 41:48
  an over correction of like body positivity
• 41:51
  and they're gonna try to like put that in there.
• 41:54
  - Yep, just like, and just like that did,
• 41:56
  where they threw in like the token black friend
• 42:00
  and you know, like they had people of color
• 42:03
  as like the side as the friends.
• 42:05
  They could be like, look, look, I have a friend
• 42:08
  and they're like, I have a plus side friend.
• 42:11
  - If they sex in the city too and dress like that,
• 42:14
  this I will riot.
• 42:17
  I'm not like I'm kidding.
• 42:18
  I hope there's more cast diversity,
• 42:20
  but I hope that those characters have personalities
• 42:23
  and plots and aren't just like there to be like,
• 42:26
  hi, I'm fulfilling a quota.
• 42:28
  Like, no, I want them to have like personality behind it.
• 42:32
  I did see that Simone Ashley was cast.
• 42:34
  I think she is.
• 42:35
  - Yeah, gorgeous.
• 42:36
  I love her.
• 42:37
  - So beautiful.
• 42:39
  - So beautiful, man.
• 42:40
  - I hope that she has.
• 42:41
  - I feel like she has.
• 42:41
  - She's an average of 10 episode.
• 42:42
  We just talked about how beautiful Simone Ashley is.
• 42:45
  (laughing)
• 42:46
  - For like 10 minutes.
• 42:47
  - Literally on her yearning face.
• 42:49
  I hope she gets to year in this movie.
• 42:51
  Like I hope she looks at a Chanel dress
• 42:54
  and gives us her yearning like.
• 42:55
  - Oh, it's a yearning.
• 42:57
  - Absolutely.
• 42:58
  And truly when we talk about cast here,
• 43:02
  they were throwing anyone and everyone in this
• 43:05
  and we are going to see outside of our fabulous four
• 43:09
  returning.
• 43:10
  We have Justin Thoreau, Kenneth Branagh, Lucy Liu,
• 43:15
  Simone Ashley, as we mentioned.
• 43:17
  We have Amanda Mora, a Lady Gaga baby is in this.
• 43:22
  - She's in it.
• 43:22
  I know she has the song, but I bet she has a cameo.
• 43:25
  - Yeah, I bet she has the song.
• 43:26
  - I bet she's on like the red carpet or something.
• 43:28
  The song.
• 43:29
  - She's on it.
• 43:30
  - I will say, I am a huge little monster.
• 43:32
  We all know this.
• 43:33
  The song Runway that she released with Do Chi.
• 43:36
  I said that it sounds like somebody typed in.
• 43:39
  Write me a gay fashion runway song into chat GPT
• 43:42
  and then this song came out.
• 43:43
  (laughing)
• 43:45
  - Yeah, it's like, could not be a strike oppose.
• 43:48
  - Yeah, but it's a fun little bob.
• 43:52
  (laughing)
• 43:53
  - Madonna, yeah.
• 43:54
  We also have Caleb Heron, we have BJ Novak,
• 43:57
  we have Rachel Bloom, we have Patrick Bermall.
• 44:00
  Truly just so, so many iconic people,
• 44:04
  people like internet famous, Gen Z people.
• 44:07
  So I'm really, really interested to see how they see
• 44:11
  ours in it.
• 44:12
  Like there's just gonna be so many people wherever
• 44:15
  like, ooh, I, and hopefully they do not do
• 44:19
  too much fan service and we do too far into that,
• 44:23
  into member berries.
• 44:24
  - Yeah, I hope that they strike a good balance.
• 44:27
  Again, I am on this podcast said so many freaking times
• 44:32
  that I refuse to watch a sequel.
• 44:36
  This movie does have me excited.
• 44:38
  - Me too.
• 44:39
  - I'm so excited.
• 44:40
  - Keeping my expectations practical,
• 44:44
  but we will give you our thoughts once we do get a chance
• 44:48
  to see them at the start of probably our next
• 44:52
  deep dive episode that we do.
• 44:55
  - I wish we could meet in the middle of the California desert
• 44:57
  and see it together.
• 44:59
  I don't know what's in the middle of San Francisco
• 45:01
  and Arizona.
• 45:02
  Let's meet there and go see it.
• 45:04
  San Luis Obispo.
• 45:05
  - I think it's more like LA.
• 45:08
  - I thought we were being honest.
• 45:10
  - Yeah, I think it's LA.
• 45:12
  Tom, LA, baby.
• 45:13
  - That's gonna LA.
• 45:14
  - Yeah, that gets me so funny.
• 45:17
  - That's like next week.
• 45:18
  - It is really close to my birthday when this is coming out.
• 45:21
  So everybody wish me a happy birthday.
• 45:23
  - Happy birthday, baby.
• 45:24
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• 45:31
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• 45:34
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• 45:37
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• 45:44
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• 45:52
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• 45:55
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• 45:58
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