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The Kiss Of Death (RHOP Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
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  Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get into this. Hey guys, welcome
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  Speaker 2: back to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod
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  Speaker 2: with myself and Dolores. Dolores, you're back home. Now, you're
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  Speaker 2: back home? Right.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like I was gone forever. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: That trip like felt like forever. Yeah, so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: That's done and over with and I can't wait. They
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  Speaker 2: both air on Thursday, so we're excited about that.
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  Speaker 3: It was quite different than the reunions were used to
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  Speaker 3: as you know, you've you've done it, like you told me,
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  Speaker 3: you told him everything you told me. He was right.
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  Speaker 4: It was pretty civilized, except for you'll see when two
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  Speaker 4: of the housewives come out and then it becomes a
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  Speaker 4: housewife reunion for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh really, how is Dan Yell?
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  Speaker 3: You know, she was really good.
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  Speaker 4: She explains why I didn't vote for her, and you'll
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  Speaker 4: see there's a big reason behind it.
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  Speaker 3: So I was kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Glad she did that because I feel like a big
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  Speaker 4: asshole this week because people are like, how could you
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  Speaker 4: not have voted for her? And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: because I fell for something that she said to me.
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  Speaker 2: But she got me, Yeah, she got Well, she's a
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  Speaker 2: good actress. I'll tell you that the way.
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  Speaker 4: She talked, she's a really bad actress. The gamers are different,
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  Speaker 4: they're cut from a different cloth camera I know one
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  Speaker 4: that I wasn't aware of. I mean, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: I've I've been around, I've literally worked in a jail.
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  Speaker 3: I've sat with prisoners that murdered people, and I still like,
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  Speaker 3: probably got more of the truth off of them when
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  Speaker 3: they were sitting there, one hundred percent. I did these
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  Speaker 3: people live to lie?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, manipulate, lie and manipulate.
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  Speaker 4: And I just I just wasn't privy to who they
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  Speaker 4: were before they got there. We don't know who we're
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  Speaker 4: going to see. And Andy's like, how could you not
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  Speaker 4: have known? I'm like, because I didn't know them before.
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  Speaker 4: If I knew Boston Rob took someone to the end
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  Speaker 4: and then stabs them in the back in the end,
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  Speaker 4: I would have voted for him.
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  Speaker 2: Right, That's the problem. We don't know who's going to
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  Speaker 2: be there. We don't know their background. Half of them
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I don't I don't watch gaming shows.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a big brother.
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  Speaker 2: Uh uh huh.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll tell you the people that I did know
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  Speaker 4: what they were aware of. Like Tom Santaval. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: was easy to vote for him. I know what he's
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  Speaker 4: capable of.
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  Speaker 2: He made it so far. I think nobody really thought
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  Speaker 2: that Tom was a trader because of that would be
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  Speaker 2: totally expected him, you know what I mean, Like it
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  Speaker 2: would be too obvious if they put something like a well,
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  Speaker 2: let's get into headlines. We have quite a few headlines
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  Speaker 2: about Karen, of course, not unexpected. But Karen's full court
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  Speaker 2: statement audio released came out and wow. So as Fox
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  Speaker 2: five DC released the full audio of Karen's court statement,
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  Speaker 2: Karen begins, your honor, I went to apologize for taking
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  Speaker 2: this case to trial, but I also want to thank
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  Speaker 2: you for allowing me to have the trial. I think
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  Speaker 2: in my prior cases, I showed up to court, followed device,
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  Speaker 2: the lawyer, got the case resolved, and it went away.
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  Speaker 2: I like to think I took the cases seriously, but
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  Speaker 2: this certainly has been such a different experience for me,
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  Speaker 2: an experience that demanded that I take a look at myself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it goes on and on, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think we need to read the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: But it's pretty long. It is pretty long. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: long with any of it, actually, Like are you I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what she says here, it does not matter.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to jail for a year, that's all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we'll get into it later. Like
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  Speaker 2: all of her statements kind of don't take accountability. And
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  Speaker 2: it's all kind of very sad to me that it's
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  Speaker 2: just she just kind of like, you know, oh, it
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  Speaker 2: was an accident. Oh you know, and then listening to
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  Speaker 2: her say my all my prior do you find it's like, Dane,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing for.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 4: So I've been like talking about that. I worked in
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  Speaker 4: the corps and I worked with persons. I have stood
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  Speaker 4: there many a time. And the lawyer says, if we
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  Speaker 4: go to trial, you're probably going to be found guilty
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  Speaker 4: and you're going to do like twenty five years. Take
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  Speaker 4: the plea right now, plead guilty and you'll do five
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  Speaker 4: or six.
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  Speaker 3: And most people go for that. Yeah, most smart people
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  Speaker 3: go for that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: There was no denying what she did. It was not
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  Speaker 4: her first defense. Why did she bring this to trial?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. And then at the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: They talk about the fact that she was offered a
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  Speaker 2: plea deal of six months house arrest.
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  Speaker 3: She was offered two plea deals, six months house arrest.
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  Speaker 2: Or sixty days in jail.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now she's one year. Do you think she
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  Speaker 2: had bad legal counsel?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think she was cocky. Yeah. Didn't we hear
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  Speaker 3: somewhere that she fired her first attorney? Yep? Yeah, So
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  Speaker 3: that says a lot to me.
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  Speaker 4: I hear a lot of people fire their attorneys, and
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  Speaker 4: usually it's because they said something that they don't want
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  Speaker 4: to hear.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the time, maybe the guys or the.
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  Speaker 4: Man or the woman. Maybe the attorney is just not
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  Speaker 4: doing their job. But most people, especially people that aren't accountable,
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  Speaker 4: don't want to hear the truth, and that's why they're
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  Speaker 4: in trouble in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hope that she gets a help she needs
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  Speaker 2: and continues when she gets out of jail, so she.
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  Speaker 3: Won't be drinking for a good year now. And I
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  Speaker 3: do hope.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, Yes, Karen, I'm not shitting on you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not kicking you while you're down. You're gonna you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna do your time better.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking also at this point, I let me tell you,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of times to self reflect where she's
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  Speaker 4: going because there ain't nothing to do. You're told when
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  Speaker 4: to eat, when to sleep, once it, when to sit,
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  Speaker 4: when to stand. I mean, you are told what to
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  Speaker 4: do all day. It's not a country club. She's going
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  Speaker 4: to a criminal facility. But after watching that reunion, those
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  Speaker 4: girls aren't too easy to deal with either.
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  Speaker 3: They show no mercy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that scares me, scares my heart. But so according
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  Speaker 2: to court records, Karen was only in rehab for forty
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  Speaker 2: eight hours. Tweeted by uh we we I Go podcast,
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  Speaker 2: I believe she went to a place called Right Turn
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  Speaker 2: for forty eight hours. It's a place with rooms meant
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  Speaker 2: to look like gel cells, so she could experience what
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  Speaker 2: that's like. She also has a continuing relationship with her therapist.
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  Speaker 2: So the rehab really wasn't a rehab if this is accurate.
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  Speaker 3: Was it like a like a prep for where she
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  Speaker 3: was going?
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously she knew at that point she was going
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  Speaker 2: to jail, but that's what it sounded like. It sounded
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  Speaker 2: like she was this.
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  Speaker 3: Is what you expect.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty that's brilliant to be honest, I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: those places existed.
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  Speaker 3: Me either, me either. I don't care where she went.
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  Speaker 4: Unless they had trained actors and actresses in the room
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  Speaker 4: where she is, then I'm going to tell you that
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  Speaker 4: I'm not prepare her for where she's going. No, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't give her the cheese sandwich that they serve, the
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  Speaker 4: government cheese sandwich, or the pants vegetables that she's not
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  Speaker 4: used to that you get constipated from.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, this is just horrible.
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  Speaker 4: The government cheese that probably wouldn't melt on an Arizona
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  Speaker 4: sidewalk in a hundred degree weather.
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  Speaker 2: Like very processed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, that's mm And she's in her sixties.
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  Speaker 4: She's in her sixties, so you're not as strong as
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  Speaker 4: you were.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, you know what, take the year and be
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  Speaker 3: glad you didn't kill someone. Yeah, because we could be
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  Speaker 3: having a really different conversation right now.
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  Speaker 4: That night, that tree, that tree saved her life and
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  Speaker 4: someone else's life. So, like I said, this is even
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  Speaker 4: though she's going to do a hard year, this is
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  Speaker 4: the best case scenario all around, because no one got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that she'll get out early?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do not that early. She'll do some time.
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  Speaker 3: She's going to do some time, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: she's going to get out. Maybe a couple months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Sources tell People magazine that production on the Bravo reality
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  Speaker 2: show will proceed with the upcoming tenth season as Huger
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  Speaker 2: is behind bars. Cameras are expected to pick up officially
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  Speaker 2: at the end of March, so they will continue without Karen.
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  Speaker 2: If she returns in the future that who knows. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, But despite likely not appearing on season ten,
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  Speaker 2: Huger is expected to still be discussed. Of course, she
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  Speaker 2: is a sort of still's people. Giselle even told attendees
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  Speaker 2: at the City Winery event she had last Wednesday that
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  Speaker 2: she would be open to film a visit with Karen
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  Speaker 2: and Jail. Is that even possible? That ain't happening, right.
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  Speaker 4: Not a fucking chance in hell. I didn't think they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna let that happen. I would be so surprised. I know,
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't happened here. I know they wanted to do that here.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, when things happened by that year, does the
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  Speaker 4: fucking happening thing happened?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Uh, that's probably just wishful thinking. Yeah, of course,
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  Speaker 4: Jaselle didn't show any mercy over there.
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  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, when Karen was giving her.
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  Speaker 4: So at what Astley say, produced, you know, little speech
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  Speaker 4: with her husband. In that one clip that they showed,
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  Speaker 4: they were like, girls, shut it off, Andy, shut it off.
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  Speaker 4: This is so produced, this is shit. They didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to hear it, but you're gonna go felt like they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They were rough. Let me tell you, that's a rough crew.
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  Speaker 4: And if that they talked to each other like that
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  Speaker 4: in New Jersey, they would be a fistfight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're absolutely right, because you know, obviously that
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  Speaker 2: video that Karen provided was a little cringe. But Giselle,
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  Speaker 2: why you want to go smack?
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  Speaker 3: And I climbed it.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know. Let's move on to the real
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  Speaker 2: houses of Beverly Hills. Last Friday they did the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Now they have there's the seating chart. Are you surprised
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  Speaker 2: at all by the seating chart?
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  Speaker 3: Let's say no, are you? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: This is the first time that Jerida has ever had
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  Speaker 2: the first seat, so next to Andy, so Kyle always
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  Speaker 2: has the first seat. The only thing that I could say.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, that should have had the first seat.
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  Speaker 2: No, mmm, I'm torn with that. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: I was a little bit like Bo's has second seat
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  Speaker 2: and Erica has third seat. For a first time housewife
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  Speaker 2: to have second seat, that's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Is it warranted? I don't know, you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know if it's warranted. I don't know, Hamma, you could
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  Speaker 2: say it.
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  Speaker 4: Don't feel bad about saying it. You just don't think
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  Speaker 4: she should be in the second seat. She probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be in the second seed. But as whatever, I think
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  Speaker 4: that it never defines you where you sit on the couch,
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  Speaker 4: like it sucks.
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  Speaker 3: You see your spot, you go sit. I've never been
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  Speaker 3: in the first seed.
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  Speaker 2: Now do you think Bos did more than Erica this
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  Speaker 2: season so far?
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  Speaker 4: I think they showed more of Bo's. I think Bos
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  Speaker 4: had more of a story. And yes, she did do
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  Speaker 4: more than Erica this season so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I guess it's it's deserved.
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  Speaker 4: Then she had her boyfriend, she showed she was open about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, wanting to have a baby. She went hard
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  Speaker 4: for Dorrie. I mean, she like really stood up for her.
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  Speaker 4: Antha came in now and.
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  Speaker 3: Then, but yeah, she did. To be honest, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Erica was pretty much the peacekeeper this season.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that puts you in the third seat.
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  Speaker 2: That puts you on the third seat. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So let's move on to the House of Potomac. Season nine,
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  Speaker 2: episode twenty of the Reunion. This is third part of
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  Speaker 2: the Reunion. It is over after this. So it starts
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  Speaker 2: off with Eddie text Wendy that TJ just dropped a bomb.
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  Speaker 2: TJ told Eddie that Stacy paid him to be her
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  Speaker 2: love interest this season. TJ also claims that Stacey will
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  Speaker 2: still owe him money. Stacy says TJ would never say that.
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  Speaker 2: Andy says they have it on tape.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the only place they have it. There's always
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  Speaker 3: a paper trail well that which she had a minute.
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  Speaker 3: I've a little full of cash when he showed up.
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  Speaker 2: If she was smart, she would if that.
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  Speaker 4: If it's true, it's got to be in writing somewhere, Okay, somewhere, somehow,
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  Speaker 4: there's a.
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  Speaker 3: There is proof of that. Now.
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  Speaker 4: The problem and the big mistake that Stacy made for
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  Speaker 4: me was not calling him on the couch. He may
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  Speaker 4: not have answered, or he may have said, yes, you
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  Speaker 4: paid me, and she would have said, show me the
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  Speaker 4: proof and if it's there, he would have showed it.
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  Speaker 4: She would have had to own it right there and
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  Speaker 4: it would be over by now.
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  Speaker 3: But this is not going away.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: I interviewed Stacey and we talked about it, and she
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  Speaker 2: is sticking to her truth that she did not ever
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  Speaker 2: pay him. She seems very upset, but she is it that.
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  Speaker 2: She's not the person that's like, you know, you're an asshole,
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  Speaker 2: show me proof like me and you are. She's like
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  Speaker 2: more like, oh, bless him. You know, I feel bad
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  Speaker 2: for him. You know, I lost my best and I'll
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  Speaker 2: pray for him. But he hasn't provided any proof on
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  Speaker 2: social media. He also has changed his comments on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: to only people that know him can comment, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Also, in like the comments section, there's been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of comments that say, you know throughout the
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  Speaker 2: season that you know he wasn't into her, she was
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  Speaker 2: paying him. It was nothing in Kenya. So I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 2: like you read those comments and go, yeahm.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes that's what I think.
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  Speaker 4: I am not neget I'm not totally saying, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so he got it off for there, Yes, she'd paid me.
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  Speaker 3: He seems like a bitter, little jerk, right.
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  Speaker 2: He sounds like a little bitch to me.
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  Speaker 4: Little's let me tell you something, any girl that dates him,
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  Speaker 4: after they saw what he acted like to her should
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  Speaker 4: run like because he's not a nice man.
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  Speaker 3: He's not.
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  Speaker 2: And another question I have was was it a setup?
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  Speaker 2: Like why did they have him on the phone?
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  Speaker 3: No? I think because the guys are always they become
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  Speaker 3: friends right over this, as you know, like Paul would
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  Speaker 3: have called and said, hey, Bro, where are you?
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't say bro, but that's how Frank talks, but
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  Speaker 4: Paul would say like like, hey are you coming? Why
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  Speaker 4: aren't you here? I'm not so sure was the setup.
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  Speaker 3: It's not out of character for the guys to call
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  Speaker 3: and say gom. But it could have been a setup too.
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  Speaker 3: It could have been.
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  Speaker 2: So then we go on to Mia. Mia is in
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  Speaker 2: the back. She leaves crying. The woman and Andy chant
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  Speaker 2: bring Eddie out, Bring Edie out. So Eddie confirms that
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  Speaker 2: TJ told him that Stacey paid him and still always
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  Speaker 2: have money. Eddie says, TJ is tired of being painted
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  Speaker 2: as flamboyant.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't deserve to be spoken to like that. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry she didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to him like that.
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  Speaker 4: She doesn't project that like I'll go head to head
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  Speaker 4: with somebody, but not her like now.
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  Speaker 2: She claims that he's been her best friend. However, they've
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  Speaker 2: only known each other two years and she is upset that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, her best friend is turning on her like this,
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  Speaker 2: but not enoughcome to our world. I know everyone is
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  Speaker 2: telling Sacy to call TJ. Even Andy is how many times?
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  Speaker 2: And Andy's like, call TJ, call him clear it up.
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  Speaker 2: I personally would have.
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  Speaker 3: I would have too. But here's the thing, if I
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  Speaker 3: was telling the truth, I would have, right. I know
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  Speaker 3: she was afraid. So that's where I'm If I was lying,
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  Speaker 3: I would be afraid of what he would say, and
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I hate to say that. That
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  Speaker 4: really made me think that she's not being truthful.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to say it. I don't trust that guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's a sweetheart, she really is, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Because she comes from such a place
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  Speaker 2: of love and kind and all that, the QBC Beauty Queen,
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  Speaker 2: all that that, she just doesn't have it in her
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  Speaker 2: to to, you know, go after him or question him
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  Speaker 2: or ask him for I don't know. I'm a different person.
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  Speaker 3: I would have.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Lost my shit right there, Camra.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: There was no reason for her not to call him
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: except for the fact that she was afraid of what
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: he would say. Maybe she was afraid of something.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Else he would say, Maybe he has something else on her,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: like you said, Wehn Liza this, or you said and
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Desa this, or yeah, you know, maybe I do.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I do think she was afraid of what was going
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to come out of his mouth.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: She was afraid of what was going to come out
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: of his mouth.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: And and he doesn't hold back on what he wants
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: to say or how he wants to say it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: She's afraid of something, She's afraid of something.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to say that. Just him doing that,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: even if she was paying him, okay, for him to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: do that and to out her like that, Like why
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: what was his point? How did that make that make him?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: That makes him look worse?
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think he cares after he spoke to her
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the way he did, I don't think he cares about
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: how he looks. Clearly, I don't.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Trust that guy well because I don't like the way
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: he spoke to her. I know whether I liked her
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: or not, and I have nothing against her I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: like the way he spoke to her.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I think she's very pretty, she's gorgeous.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: She is absolutely see how much what happens Like I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: did her her blooming dress.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Now do you think Mia leaving the reunion early is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: going to hurt her for next season?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Because you know that's the kiss of death. You
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: don't do that. Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Andy doesn't like it, producers don't like it. You got
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: to stay there and you have to take it. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: you know, I've said this last time we spoke, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it again.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Me and needs help, me and needs help and she
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: needs to get it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And I'm not so sure that she's cut out for this.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: She's too unstable.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that, like when you make up
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: stories and you're lying and you're trying to make good TV,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it shows and it's not good TV at all, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: especially this season with bringing the kids in and paternity
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: tests and this will.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Love try and one things your ibs, but you don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: know who the fathers.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: See. These are all things that are not normal. Not
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: that we're all normal, but this is really abnormal, making
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: up stories, pathologically lying things like that, paying your boyfriends
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: to come on the show. These are all not normal things.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: The control room brings Andy the tape. On the tape,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: TJ says he will never be back in DC and
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that Stacy paid him to be on the show and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: he wants his money too. I guess I want to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: know how much do you think she was Do you
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: get a day rate? Did he get like a contract?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Like how much?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Listen, here's the thing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: If she was paying him, if it was you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: we get paid when we get paid to show up somewhere.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: We get air travel, food, you know, food, hotel, she
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: would have had to pay.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: For these things. Yeah, I think the way he said it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Here's the other thing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: The way that he said it was in a way
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: like what you're saying, like somebody said that in a
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: comment and then he just like said it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he went with it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think he went with it. But the yeah, all
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the women agree. It's you know, all the women on
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the couch were believing TJ.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: They were not believing Stacy. I think Stace, they.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Know something more than we do. Well, first of all,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they'll kill they cut each other. They don't really stand
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: by each other.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Like I look at my show Tamra, not that it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: about my show right now, but even when we were fighting,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: we did stand by each other at certain times.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: They don't give a they are fucking Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Well, if I was paying TJ, I definitely would be
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: asking for a refund because he was a total flop
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: So I'm paying for do you mack? You know hopefully
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: he signed an NDA before.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well, if he did, then she's he's screwed, right because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: he just went on and outed her.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Like they're like if she has an attorney involved, clearly
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: he signed an NDA and she's maybe holding on to
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: saying that NDA has to stick. He can't talk like that,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: so he'll he'll either have to retract what he said,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: which probably not, or he'll just have to stay under
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the radar, like blocking his comments.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Well, she had mentioned that she was going to call
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: her attorney, So I'm wondering if that's going to happen.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I think in the next week or so, or actually
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: in the next couple of days. If he's got receipts,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: he's going to show them.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: If he didn't sign an NDA. Yeah, but if she
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: paid him or she I think he's.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Already blown that NDA. He already spoke, so he's already
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in trouble to make it worse. Yeah, I guess.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: So. I'm curious now and I can't wait till the
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: truth comes out. And you know, the dirty laundry always
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: comes out in the.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Wash, it does. I was trolling his Instagram last night.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He doesn't he's not very active on Instagram, but I'm like, okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I was fighting. I'm like, I'm like, should I DM them?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Should I say, do you have receipts? Give them to me?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I can't do it. I can't
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You think you're the only one that said that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I know he's probably up to his ass in fucking
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: DM saying send me a receipts.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you who would do it, And that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: was Teddy. She would do it in a heartbeat. She'd
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: be like, show me the receipts, dude, I know she would.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Somebody got them and I'm sure I'm sure he yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: but definitely if you're going to open your mouth. That's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: why I'm very torn by.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: You know, he didn't want the spotlight too. That's the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: whole other thing.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: He liked the spotlight, So would she have to pay
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: him to come on because he wanted it so bad?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, he probably would pay her to be on.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So then Andy asked the woman if they have
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: seen karen struggle with the drinking problem. All the women
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: say they have. Jacqueline says she was trying to be
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: shady with the eight balloons. The woman agree that Karen
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have taught taken this case to trial obviously. Stacey
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: thinks that Karen didn't remember what happened that night obviously
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: because she was drunk. Wendy says Karen tried to get
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the bodycam footage thrown out. Gazelle says Karen pushed the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: trial because she didn't want to take any deal. Big
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: giant mistake not taking the deal.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Know, she she had a sense of entitlement. What she
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: said in her statement, she has gotten away with it
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: in the past, which we all know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: But I mean, just well, listen, doesn't matter now she's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: got it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't. And who's the person in the car?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: There was somebody in that car. Now, do you really
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: believe Karen didn't watch that body cam footage.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I do because I don't like sometimes watching things that
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like I look stupid on.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: But you know, her attorney watched it, So if her
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: attorney watched it, I believe she didn't watch it until
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: she had to.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I absolutely believe.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: That you might be right, because I don't even like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to watch myself on housewives. I don't listen to the podcast.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I hate my voice, so I can't get that. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: she watched it when she had to.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: She I definitely didn't. I can't even imagine. She's like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know that person. I bet you didn't.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she even said in the footage, the body
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: cam footage, something about somebody leaving the car. Now, there's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: been rumors for years. She has a sideboyfriend. Could they
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: call him blue eyes?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Blue Eyes? Yeah?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: So now let me ask you. Did she want to
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: say that somebody was in the car so she wouldn't
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: take the fall for it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: That could have been it too. That could have been
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it too.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Somebody else was in that car and driving. Where did
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: they go? Bullshit?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that could have been what she was trying to do. Basically,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: say that somebody else was driving, because by the time
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the cops get there, I don't know where she was,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: if she was still in her seat, was she out?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: What was going on?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: She was blacked out before she hit the tree, so
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: she was out. That's what she said. She was blacked
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: out before she hit the tree. And I don't think
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: anybody was with her. And the people whose house or
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: wherever she was by who let her drive?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. If somebody was in the car
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: with her too, like, why would you let her drive?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Ashley says the night after Karen's accident, a journalist text
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: her and said that there was a person in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: car of Karen and they were the person driving. Now,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't think I believe that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Then why is Karen going to jail? Then? Why is Karen?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: There was no.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: One investigation done? Yeah, she said that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: What happened was the blogger watched the tape.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Do you know when a cop pulls you over with
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: a bodycam, you can just email them and you get
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the body cam footage immediately.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody. You could get anyone's bodycam footage. You can get anything.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: If you know an instant that happened. You email the
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: police department. It is public. Whatever you want, you get it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Somebody's calling names about something. Pull texts someone voice text
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and because of his accent, it said I want to
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: kill you or something. And he didn't even And the
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: guy went to the cops about it. Cold Pull an asshole,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: sad he's looking. So my brother, who's the cop, goes,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: you know, you could get the body cam footage, so
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: he did and we heard everything the guy said about us.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, Well, Giselle said, Karen was offered two deals,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like we said earlier, the sixty days or the house arrest,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: which she screwed up. Now the flashback of Karen telling
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Ashley clankity clank that did not age well at all.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Karma, what did actually say? Karma's her friends, karmas my friends,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and she always sticks up for me. You know That's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: why I'm saying now. And I don't drink and I
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: don't plan on drunk driving. I don't kick people when
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: they're down, because it's like spitting in the wind.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: You know, you just listen. She made a mistake. We
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: could talk about it, we could say how stupid it was,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: and everything else. But I'm not getting excited about it
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: for her.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Right right. I mean, I could see this is not
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: her first one, this is her fourth one. So I
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: could see the girls getting very annoyed and agitated with
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: her because she wouldn't take responsibility. It was never du why,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it was never about drinking and driving. It was always
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the accident. So to me, that would drive me crazy
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: filming with something like that. I know, I'm like, just
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: take ownership of what you did.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You have no choice, I know.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But then Andy Show's never before seen footage of Karen
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a day before she left her rehab, which wasn't really
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: rehabs what we're hearing. I feel like the entire scene
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: was one big cover up. It didn't feel authentic at all.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: It felt staged. I think that she, you know, first
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of all, her biggest mistake is being all made up
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and glamorous and laying on the bed the way she was.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: You know, hellos were beautiful, rhyingtone pillows.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm like a little more humble, just I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: think this would have been a time to be a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: little bit more.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I would have been sitting at the kitchen table with
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: my head down. Yes, so ashamed saying I screwed up.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I am sorry, and I have to I have to
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: pay for it. This is what I gotta do. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: everyone would respect that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: They would that people. That's what I say this all
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the time. We all fuck up and we all do it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But when you own it, it.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Goes goes away. It goes away. Now easier said than done,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: easier said. And that's I think what they were trying
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: to tell.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Stacy last night, like just call him whatever, he says,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: own it if you did it, because you we're gonna
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: find out. He can have twenty five thousand NDAs you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: there's a saying in my family, two can keep a
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: secret if one is dead. It's coming out, coming out.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming out. So in this little interview that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: she did in her bedroom with her husband, Karen says
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: she didn't watch the tapes before the trial and that
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: she didn't recognize herself in the footage. Karen says she
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: started self medicating seven years ago when her parents died.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Karen says the night she drank champagne after upping her medication.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Karen says she never drinks and drives because she has
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a driver. Ray says that's When the blue Eye rumor started,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Giselle tells Andy to turn off the footage. Ashley says,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: it's performative. Karen says, what happened to her was self
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: inflicted and she's going away for herself, not court ordered.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, she really covered all her bases, Like the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: girl said, her drinking, the Blue Eyes, the six million crashes,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: but I self medicated zero pay well, she kept blaming medication.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: See it's such a small fucking world. Ashley's on the
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: train coming to New York, sitting next.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: To some guy. You know, she's talking. She tells her
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: business to everybody.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And she's talking and the guy's like, oh, let me see,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, I know this woman from Legal
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Seafood and she would come and drink all day long.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: She is an alcoholic. She will always be an alcoholic.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean all we can wish for is
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that from now on, like she gets the help she needs.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: She gets the help she needs, and that's not going.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: To be fun for her. And when she gets out
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: that she continues with her sobriety because.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: AA is going to be a part of her life.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: That's damn straight, it is. And you're going to go
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: there every day.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you don't take a drink for
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: twenty five years, you're going to stand up in that
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: meeting and you're going to say I'm an alcoholic.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Yep. And like you said, Ashley and Wendy and I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: think Giselle all said that. You know, the talk around
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the town is that she does hang out at bars
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and she drinks all day. Andy asks the woman what
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: they think will happen to her and sentencing, Gizelle says,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you can't wear a wig in jail. Gazelle says going
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in jail at sixty something years old is a problem
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: and it won't go well well. Like I said earlier,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think wigless Karen is the biggest problem there.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: She's used to.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know if she's ever known what it's like
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to rough it. I don't know where she comes from.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know what she's like, but but I don't
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: know what.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Her bringing gump was like.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: So you know, there's no rhyanstone pillows in jail, there's
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: no accommodations, there's nothing. There's nothing comfortable, which is what
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: she's used to. I you know, I mean, I don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: know if you can go back to your roots. It's
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: been a long time since I've had to rough it
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: about anything.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: But but but you kind of can always like go
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: go and tap that, like okay, I did this once before.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I didn't come. I don't know how she's going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: handle where she's going.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you, I we can't. So
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: but it's an r V. I couldn't imagine. I'm like clusterrophobic,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: so I couldn't imagine just being in sell and then
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: not to mention I got a bad back. I couldn't
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: lay on that cot. It would kill me.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I would have to, but you would have to, and well, listen,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: she's gonna have to. It's gonna be survival.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: M M. That's rough. That takes me back to like
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: remember when the Chrislies were put in jail and they're
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: still in jail. It's been years, They're going to be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: there for a long time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm crazy.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: But that's also a different jail. Yeah, that's more of
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: a that's the country club.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: So oh is it a more of a country club?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I thought it wasn't I.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Think so I could be wrong. But I think so
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: because that was fed federal. Oh that was taxes, right, yeah, taxes.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So Andy thinks the women as they wrap and Stacy
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: says she lost her best friend today, and Wendy says.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: She clocked me her friend.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. Wendy said she clocked Mia before
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: anybody during MIA's first season when she lied about her age,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Mia be lying since the beginning. It sounds like.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I've clocked Mia from the minute I looked at her.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So okay, I just I would be okay if Mia
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't back next season.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's in everybody's best interest for Mea to
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: go get help and work on herself and be the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: best version of herself for her children. MM, because you
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: know we have the little ones. We gotta work like
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: it's not just about you. You can't go go when
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you become a mother. You can't keep going fucking up
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: your life and not fixing what's broken. You got to
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: fix it as much as you can exactly.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So, like we said, a source confirmed that they'll start
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: filming season ten pretty soon.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think that they will bring in Robin or
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Candace next year? I miss them both.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I love Robin, I love Robin. I don't know Kansas
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: very well. I've metaged. She was lovely when I met her. Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: but I was just that Traders with Robin.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love her. I think she's she's going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: be back.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like she don't play either.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: She'll call you, she doesn't. The Ultimate Girls Trip Traders,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: they kind of revive, you know, like, oh my god,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: we need her back on the show. So yeah, I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: think so. We have a few fan thoughts. Season was good,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: but reunion was great. All great, thought great, great? Why
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: are these women so quick to believe a terrible man
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like TJ.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Over over Stacy. Yeah, well, hey, listen, they don't like Stacy,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: so that's whine.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just feel like Stacy didn't do herself any justice.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: She could have gotten a little upset like she did
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: at Karen and be like, yeah, I'd show me the receipts.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: But she didn't do that. But you know what, everybody
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: deals with things differently. Karen messed up, but she gave
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: us nine years of great TV. We'll miss her next season.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: And then this person thinks that Stacy is a liar.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: She might be.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: She might very well be, because she didn't make that
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: call because I think that if she called them, he
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: would have said. If he didn't say, yeah, I have
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the receipts and yes you did, he could have said
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: other things like I was saying before, Like you could
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: have said, yo, why don't you tell Wendy what you
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: think of her?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Why don't you tell this one?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And then somebody said Karen has bigger issues and we
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: know yes, And then somebody said what I said, please
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: let it be a rap on Mia Mia bye bye.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I could see that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I could definitely say that. But I see Karen coming back.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Why hundred thousand.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent she's coming back. There's no I mean, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: hear that jen Shaw's coming back.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: One hundred thousand her son, jen Shaw is coming back
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: because there's she's she's good with Meredith.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I am hearing. I don't know. This is
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: could be a rumor, but that's.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Like what seven years she's doing, Like jen Shaw's got
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: gone away for a bit.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think she's out maybe next August or
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I don't I can't remember what it was. Twenty twenty five,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: early twenty six, I can't remember.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, could you imagine we're talking about jail
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: terms for housewives, like what is going on here?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't like it. To be honest with you,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I don't like it either. I don't want to see it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: It hurts my heart. I don't want to see it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I'm very sorry for these people, whatever mess they got them,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: and these.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Were these are self induced. Now when we talk about Teresa,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: her ax husband did that to her, so that I'm
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: not even throwing her in that group.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Listen, we are no different than anybody else and should
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: not be treated any different than anyone else. And by
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the way, no.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: No, I know we all make mistakes and it's how
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: we deal with them and how we write out of
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: And what I don't understand is where were the people
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: in Karen's life. And I've said this before. My family
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: would be banging down my fucking door one day one
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: day in me what Karen was doing every day, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: there wouldn't be one person that wouldn't have put me
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: in my place, or put me in a rehab, had
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: me kidnapped, if they had to to put me away.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It's very sad that I got that far.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even like my daughter and my husband
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: right now, are on me because when I get sad,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I like shut down. Like I could sit in the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: seat all day long and just my whole body shuts down.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm like that too.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I get consumed with things. It's like I usually work
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: out every day. I haven't been consistent in three weeks,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and then I got filming on top of that,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm letting everything with filming really hurt me. And
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: they're like, you need to snap out of this. You
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: need to get your ass up. You need there's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: part of you. You need to take care of yourself.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing camera you also deserve to. You're going
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: through a lot, and you're watching somebody you love go
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: through a lot right now, and and you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Know, sometimes you just need that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Everyone beats the shit out of us because we're usually tough,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and they're like, snap out of it. You know, I'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna cut you a break right now and
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: say take your time.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I know you're gonna need it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I'm trying through a lot, you're filming, You're doing this.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: You know, filming isn't easy. I heard the seasons a
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: little bit kooky, Yeah, crazy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I don't have the energy that I don't have the
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: mind space. And when things like this are going on
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in your real life, like it's too much, it's.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Too so much, so you shut down because that's that's
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: your body's way of dealing with it. Yeah, shutting down,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: So shut down.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: All you want, kid.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to snap out of it. I'm trying,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: but you know what it is, what it is. But
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: thank you so much.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: You're doing a great job. Thank you, Yes, thank you.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I look forward to our chats.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I really, I know I do too amazing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Well, go break a leg, okay, I will.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I'm off to LA for a meeting, so I will.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to you very soon.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'm going to go get my computer fixed so
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: then I'm ready for you.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Oh good, that's a good idea. Okay, bye bye