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Mega Edition: Whitey Bulger And His Relationship With The Feds (10/28/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. The
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  Speaker 1: United States government has made it a habit to get
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  Speaker 1: into bed with some real scummy characters throughout history. One
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  Speaker 1: of those people who we're going to talk about tonight
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  Speaker 1: is Whitey Bulger. And Whitey Bulger is somebody I always
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  Speaker 1: refer to when people have the audacity to think or
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  Speaker 1: say that Jeffrey Epstein... wasn't working with some element inside
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  Speaker 1: of the government. As if the government wouldn't work with
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  Speaker 1: somebody like Epstein if they thought that it would push
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  Speaker 1: their narrative or their goals further. Of course they would.
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  Speaker 1: Just like they worked with Whitey Bulger. And you can
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  Speaker 1: insert a whole host of horrible actors that the government
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  Speaker 1: has been in bed with at different times throughout history.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I always found it so... laughable that people
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  Speaker 1: would be calling it a conspiracy theory to think that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was being used as an asset. Now, obviously, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not one of the people who thinks that the Mossad
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  Speaker 1: was running this whole investigation. I mean, this whole entire,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ring that Epstein was involved in. I think
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  Speaker 1: that that is a bit fantasy land. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think that Epstein was an asset. And when I say
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  Speaker 1: an asset, not a traditional spy, but somebody used by
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  Speaker 1: insert government agency here, to further their own goals. And
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  Speaker 1: as part of that deal, they were willing to look
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  Speaker 1: the other way when Epstein was committing crimes, the same
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  Speaker 1: way they were willing to look the other way while
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  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger was dropping bodies all over the place. So
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  Speaker 1: if they were willing to work with Whitey Bulger, a murderer,
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  Speaker 1: a mass murderer at that, a drug dealer, a pimp,
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's into extortion, you name it, You really mean
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  Speaker 1: to think and to tell me for a second that
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be working with someone like Epstein as well?
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  Speaker 1: Of course they would be. Today we have an article
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  Speaker 1: from the Boston Globe. The author of this article, Kevin Cullen. Headline,
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  Speaker 1: the Feds protected Whitey Bulger for decades. Now they're protecting themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what they do, right? When they feel like
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  Speaker 1: an asset is no longer worthwhile, they'll burn that asset.
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  Speaker 1: either get rid of them completely, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, or they'll get rid of all evidence and
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  Speaker 1: ties that link them to that person. And they'll effectively
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  Speaker 1: leave that person swinging in the wind. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: the federal government ended up doing with Whitey Bulger when
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  Speaker 1: they let him get transferred into the facility where he
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  Speaker 1: got killed. They put him into a facility where he
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  Speaker 1: had plenty of enemies, folks. You can't go through your
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  Speaker 1: life the way Whitey Bulger did. robbing and raping and
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  Speaker 1: killing and indiscriminately, by the way, and not make a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of enemies. So the federal government put him in
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  Speaker 1: this facility knowing damn well he was going to pay
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  Speaker 1: a price. And that's why I find it laughable as
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  Speaker 1: well with Epstein when people are like, oh, the government
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  Speaker 1: would never put him in a situation where he could
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  Speaker 1: be injured. Oh, yeah. So they put him in a
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  Speaker 1: cell with Nicholas Tartaglione, huh? Because that don't make no
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  Speaker 1: sense unless, of course, you are looking for the same
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  Speaker 1: result you're looking for with Whitey Bulger. Because it sure
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  Speaker 1: is a real convenient and a lot easier for the
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  Speaker 1: federal government to deal with the fallout from Whitey Bulger
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  Speaker 1: if he's dead, right? He's not out there running his mouth,
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  Speaker 1: talking any stories, talking about what he was up to
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  Speaker 1: with the government, causing the government a headache. And on
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  Speaker 1: the government's end, they can say, oh, look, this was
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  Speaker 1: just this is just a mess up. We didn't really
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  Speaker 1: mean to put him there or send him there. It
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  Speaker 1: just happened that way. Just like with Epstein and the
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  Speaker 1: cameras and stuff, right? So they give themselves that deniability,
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  Speaker 1: and it's enough of deniability where people actually buy into
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  Speaker 1: the narrative. But the fact is, you mean to tell
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  Speaker 1: me they put Whitey Bulger here by mistake, huh? One
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  Speaker 1: of the most notorious inmates in the system, and you
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  Speaker 1: just happen to put him someplace where he's going to
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  Speaker 1: get murdered? Shortly after the South Boston gangster, James Whitey Bulger,
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  Speaker 1: was beaten to death in his prison cell with a
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  Speaker 1: padlock tucked in a sock, his presumed killer, Freddy Geese,
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  Speaker 1: was tucked in the hole, a.k.a. solitary confinement. Hell yeah,
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  Speaker 1: threw that mofo right in the hole. They didn't want
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  Speaker 1: nobody to talk to him. They didn't want nobody to
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  Speaker 1: say a word, right? They didn't want him. freddie geese
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  Speaker 1: to talk to investigators so let's throw him in the
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  Speaker 1: hole and then we'll say that we're conducting an investigation
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  Speaker 1: so you can't have access to him sound familiar for
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  Speaker 1: those of you who follow the epstein case more than
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  Speaker 1: three years later as my colleague shelly murphy reported geese
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  Speaker 1: has not been charged with bulger's murder and remains in
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  Speaker 1: the hole glaine maxwell thinks she has it bad huh
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  Speaker 1: how about this freddie geese guy not even charged with
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  Speaker 1: the murder, and he's been in the hole now for, what,
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  Speaker 1: three years? But tell me again how bad it was
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  Speaker 1: for Ghislaine Maxwell. She couldn't be with her friends, she
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  Speaker 1: couldn't eat caviar, and she couldn't have her lettuce-wrapped sandwiches. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: you got people who are legit, almost in seventh-century type
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  Speaker 1: of conditions in some of these jails. A bigger conflict
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  Speaker 1: of interest you cannot find. The federal government doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to charge geese because a prosecution risks exposing the culpability
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  Speaker 1: of the Fed zone for putting Bulger in a position
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  Speaker 1: to be murdered. And boy, they don't want to do that,
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  Speaker 1: do they? We all know it's cover your ass for
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  Speaker 1: the Feds. How long have I been saying that? People
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  Speaker 1: will get out here and they'll try and run cover
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  Speaker 1: for what happened at the facility with Epstein like it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a gigantic F up, like it wasn't a huge
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  Speaker 1: problem that needed to be really disinfected. But we didn't
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  Speaker 1: get that, did we? No transparency, just BS and more
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  Speaker 1: diversionary tactics when anyone asks any questions. And the people
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  Speaker 1: in the media, well, they can't be bothered. Nobody can
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  Speaker 1: be bothered to really dig deep, right? The feds have
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  Speaker 1: already dodged one bullet after a federal judge threw out
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit filed by Bulger's family. which claimed government negligence
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  Speaker 1: in putting the 89-year-old gangster in easy reach of Massachusetts
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  Speaker 1: criminals who had a reason to despise if not to
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  Speaker 1: kill him. It's pretty much the same thing, right? Despise, kill.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about a bunch of seasoned, organized criminals. And not
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  Speaker 1: only was Whitey working with the feds as in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: giving them a little bit of info here or there,
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  Speaker 1: he was dropping a dime on a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of those people were business rivals or
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  Speaker 1: people in the rackets he was in. And to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of them, he would use the federal government to
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  Speaker 1: do so. And the federal government was more than happy
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  Speaker 1: to get those cases booked and to get those people
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  Speaker 1: locked up. The idea that it has taken this long
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  Speaker 1: to investigate a murder that took place in a federal
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  Speaker 1: prison with cameras everywhere is ludicrous. There's only one plausible explanation.
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  Speaker 1: The feds are covering for themselves. Sounds about right to me. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we saw it in the Epstein case. When he died
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  Speaker 1: and they went into that jail cell, no procedures were followed.
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  Speaker 1: Why weren't there cameras on at the time? Nobody's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to disturb the body. None of that. It's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be treated as a crime scene. But it was not.
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  Speaker 1: And you would think that that would cause a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of racket and have people jumping out of their
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  Speaker 1: skin asking questions. But instead, what they'll do is they'll
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  Speaker 1: try and call it, oh, it's a conspiracy. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a conspiracy theory. Well, here's an idea. Why don't
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  Speaker 1: you dig a little bit deeper? All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: these journalists believe what the authorities tell them. It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to me. Look, again, I'm not saying that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: commit suicide in that jail cell, Epstein. But how about
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  Speaker 1: some transparency and we could end all of the nonsense?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting to. The irony is that Bulger
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  Speaker 1: led a charmed life and ended others with impunity because
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  Speaker 1: the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department considered him an
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  Speaker 1: asset in their campaign against the mafia, an informant to
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  Speaker 1: prize and protect. Folks, does that not sound familiar? Does
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  Speaker 1: that not sound like a pathway that they took with Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: If Epstein was collecting dossiers and information on people, you
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  Speaker 1: don't think that would be important to certain elements in
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  Speaker 1: the government? considering they're willing to get in bed with
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  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger. And it's not me saying that to you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not here making things up, telling you to buy
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  Speaker 1: my newsletter, right? This is right here for anyone to read.
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  Speaker 1: You just got to put the pieces together. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact is the government has no problem whatsoever using these
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  Speaker 1: kinds of people to help them with whatever their goals are.
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  Speaker 1: And if people get caught up as collateral damage, in
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  Speaker 1: this case, other gangsters and people in the life, And
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  Speaker 1: in Epstein's case, well, who cares? Just a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: poor girls, right? If that means they can get more information,
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  Speaker 1: then so much better for them. And if you get
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  Speaker 1: caught up in the collateral damage of it, well, so what?
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  Speaker 1: We don't mean anything to these people. We're just chattel.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, quick commercial break. With the blessing of
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  Speaker 1: the FBI and even high ranking members of the Justice Department,
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  Speaker 1: he murdered many and collected millions in tribute for allowing
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  Speaker 1: the free flow of drugs that he and his alkalites
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  Speaker 1: claimed he did so much to keep out of Southie.
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  Speaker 1: So the government was running this whole scam with Whitey Bulger.
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  Speaker 1: And according to them, it was worth the risk they
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  Speaker 1: were taking of him killing a few criminals or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: because the information he was feeding them was getting people
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  Speaker 1: off the street. Now, this is the psyche of the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: There are bananas over there. I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 1: on at the FBI, but I'll tell you what, it's
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  Speaker 1: not a good scene. You see all these different cases
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  Speaker 1: going through the courts right now. You see the situation
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  Speaker 1: with Sussman and the Clinton campaign. That's not looking good.
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  Speaker 1: You see the situation with the laptop. That's not looking good.
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  Speaker 1: You got a bunch of issues with Trump and his
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  Speaker 1: bank accounts and money. That's not looking good. So what
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  Speaker 1: is the FBI really up to? Hanging out working with
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  Speaker 1: murderous thugs and helping guys like Epstein stay under the radar?
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  Speaker 1: When thanks largely to the good work of the Massachusetts
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  Speaker 1: State Police and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, Bulger finally faced
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  Speaker 1: the prospect of criminal charges. His corrupt FBI handler tipped
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  Speaker 1: him off, and he went on the lam. The FBI's
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  Speaker 1: search for him the first year he was gone was
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  Speaker 1: laughably perfunctory at best. They didn't want to find him.
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  Speaker 1: Because they didn't know what he'd say. And you can't
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  Speaker 1: have a loose end, right? You got to tie up
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  Speaker 1: your loose ends. You can't have Whitey Bulger out here
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  Speaker 1: diming you out. Who knows who will believe him? Who
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  Speaker 1: knows if one of these hard-charging prosecutors from the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Justice will get on board and believe what he
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  Speaker 1: has to say. So for the feds, and look, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's a cynical outlook for people who haven't been
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  Speaker 1: paying attention. But with all of these articles that we
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  Speaker 1: cover and all of these different situations that we cover,
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me that the federal government and the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Corrections is either terribly inept or in certain instances,
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  Speaker 1: certain circumstances, they're more than happy to let the inmates
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  Speaker 1: clean up the mess for them. And that's what happened
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  Speaker 1: with Whitey Bulger. Now, what happened to Epstein, obviously, that's
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  Speaker 1: still up in the air. We don't know one way
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  Speaker 1: or the other, but there's no doubt that Whitey Bulger
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  Speaker 1: was left out to dry. Sixteen years later, thanks to
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  Speaker 1: some honest FBI agents, a perceptive deputy U.S. marshal, and
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  Speaker 1: dogged prosecutors, Bulger was captured in Santa Monica and brought
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  Speaker 1: back to face the music. Bulger's lawyers admitted he made
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars from the drug trade, but insisted he
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  Speaker 1: would never kill a woman, and he wasn't a rat.
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  Speaker 1: A jury found otherwise, and he was shipped off to
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  Speaker 1: spend his final days as a guest of the nation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. You were never a rat, Whitey Bulger. And
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  Speaker 1: you would never kill a woman. You're too honorable. You
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  Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew. Mr. Honorable one and number two. Bunch
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  Speaker 1: of clowns, the whole lot of them. Not surprisingly, giving
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  Speaker 1: his cantankerous nature, Bulger turned out to be a pain
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  Speaker 1: in the neck for the U.S. Bureau of Prison Officials,
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  Speaker 1: who moved him from Arizona to Florida. After officials in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: tired of his constant complaining and harassing staff, They pawned
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  Speaker 1: him off on Hazleton in West Virginia, claiming his declining
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  Speaker 1: health had miraculously improved. Bulger was dead within 12 hours
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  Speaker 1: of arriving at Hazleton. So as much of a scuzzball
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  Speaker 1: as he is, should the Department of Corrections be playing
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  Speaker 1: pass him off or should they just do their job?
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  Speaker 1: Or was their job to put him in a position
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  Speaker 1: so he ended up the way he did? Geese, a
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  Speaker 1: mafia hitman, wasn't the only career criminal from Massachusetts at
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  Speaker 1: Hazleton who had a motive to tune up Whitey Bulger,
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  Speaker 1: but he was the first with an opportunity. Another Massachusetts criminal,
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  Speaker 1: Paul J. DiCologero, was captured on camera entering Bulger's cell
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  Speaker 1: with Geese two hours before Bulger's battered body was found.
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  Speaker 1: The federal government, enabled Bulger's murder of many. And it
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  Speaker 1: is reasonable now to suggest there is evidence that the
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  Speaker 1: same government enabled Bulger's murderer to kill him. So, again,
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  Speaker 1: the parallels with Epstein are insane. We've talked about Whitey
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  Speaker 1: Bulger in comparison with Jeffrey Epstein before, but when you
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  Speaker 1: look at this right here, seems pretty convenient for the
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  Speaker 1: federal government to drop these dudes in one of these
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  Speaker 1: facilities and let nature take its course. That Freddy Geese
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  Speaker 1: remains in solitary confinement, punished but not charged, is scandalous.
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  Speaker 1: But it's hardly an isolated incident. Between 2013 and 2019,
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  Speaker 1: of the 78 inmates killed in federal prisons, nine were
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  Speaker 1: killed in Hazleton. Hence its nickname, Misery Mountain. Imagine that shit.
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  Speaker 1: 78 inmates killed in federal prisons and 9 were from
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  Speaker 1: one facility? So, note to self, if you ever get
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  Speaker 1: in trouble, Hazleton is not the spot to end up in.
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  Speaker 1: The feds cynically believe they can ride this out, because
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  Speaker 1: who cares about imprisoned gangsters killing each other, other families, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anyone who wants to live in a society
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  Speaker 1: that's halfway decent? You can tell a lot about its
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  Speaker 1: society by how it treats its prisoners, right? And I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to see people murdered in jail or in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the day, the feds allowed Whitey Bulger to
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  Speaker 1: do his brutal thing, reasoning that no one would care
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  Speaker 1: about him bumping off other criminals. That Faustian deal ignored
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Bulger murdered innocent people, too. The feds
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  Speaker 1: are gambling again, betting that enough people That not enough
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  Speaker 1: people care about Whitey Bulger's violent demise, but rather see
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  Speaker 1: it as some form of rough justice. So far, that
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  Speaker 1: bet is paying off. And you better believe I'm paying attention,
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  Speaker 1: they got my attention. Considering the whole Epstein parallel here,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, definitely paying attention. Geese needs to be on trial,
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  Speaker 1: he needs to be prosecuted, and we need to see
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  Speaker 1: what he has to say. But the real question is,
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  Speaker 1: will the government ever let it get to that point?
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  Speaker 1: I have my doubts. If you'd like to contact me,
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  Speaker 1: at ProtonMail.com. You can also find me on Twitter at
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  Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the program. Four years ago, Whitey Bulger was
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  Speaker 1: transferred to a federal prison in West Virginia. On arrival
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  Speaker 1: at that prison, dude was murdered in about six minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So the question is, how were the guys who killed
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  Speaker 1: him tipped off to his arrival? And we know that
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  Speaker 1: they were tipped off because one of the people who
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  Speaker 1: was accused of this told his mother that on the
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  Speaker 1: phone and it was recorded by the authorities. So somebody
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  Speaker 1: tipped these dudes off that Whitey Bulger was going to
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  Speaker 1: be in this facility. And then, not only that, but
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  Speaker 1: they were allowed to have time alone with him. Dude's
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  Speaker 1: cell was open. A whole bunch of stuff. And it
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  Speaker 1: just brings me right back to Jeffrey Epstein's death. All
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  Speaker 1: the people out there that say, oh, it's impossible. He
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  Speaker 1: had to have killed himself. Well, yeah, that seems like
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  Speaker 1: the likeliest route, right? But why did he kill himself
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  Speaker 1: if he did? And for me, it all goes back
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  Speaker 1: to Nicholas Tartaglione, folks. I've said this several, several times now.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that Tartaglione was sent to send a message
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  Speaker 1: in that cell that night. And for whatever reason, things
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  Speaker 1: didn't go exactly to plan, meaning Epstein died. didn't end
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  Speaker 1: up dying, or Tartaglione was there to send Epstein a
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  Speaker 1: message that, look, we can get to you whenever we want.
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  Speaker 1: And until somebody else can explain to me why a
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  Speaker 1: man who was being charged with four homicides was in
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  Speaker 1: a cell with Epstein, then I'm going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: believe that. Because as usual, I'm just following the evidence.
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  Speaker 1: And wherever it leads me, that's where I'm going. I
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  Speaker 1: stuffed my biases with this case a long time ago, folks.
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  Speaker 1: And wherever the evidence goes, I do not care where
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  Speaker 1: it ends up, by the way. Wherever it ends up,
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  Speaker 1: those are the people that need to be held responsible.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about their political affiliation. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about any of it. But the fact that somebody tipped
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  Speaker 1: these dudes off to Whitey Bulger arriving, what it does
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  Speaker 1: is it just shows you that this sort of shit
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  Speaker 1: isn't just in the movies. This isn't a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists sitting around and coming up with plans that
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  Speaker 1: could have happened. This sort of thing happens. There are
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  Speaker 1: corrupt people. There are people who are working for the
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  Speaker 1: corrections office and the Department of Justice who are on
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  Speaker 1: the take. This happens. This isn't just something in the
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  Speaker 1: movies or in a book. People are greedy. And people
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like Whitey Bulger, well, they know that people are greedy, right?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So they had their hooks into all kinds of people.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And on the flip side of that, while Bulger was
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: using the FBI, the FBI was certainly using Whitey Bulger
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: as well. He was operating as a snitch while he
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: was running around as a mob boss, running the gang
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he was running, he was also working for the FBI,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: diming out his enemies. And there's a lot of... Relative
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: comparisons to be made here with Jeffrey Epstein, folks. Now
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: obviously Epstein wasn't running a mafia, but he certainly was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: running a criminal enterprise, wasn't he? And to think that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the federal government wouldn't be working with somebody like Epstein
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: because he's a child molester is laughable. People have this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: high regard for these bureaucracies, and I don't understand why.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: All you have to do is take a look at
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: their confidential informants, just take a look at the people
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: they run as their snitches, and then look at the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: favor that they give these people. Whitey Bulger, while acting
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: as a CI, while acting as a snitch, was able
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to go on murder sprees. And not only that, anytime
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: he was about to get raided, he was tipped off
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: by his FBI handlers. Don't believe me? Read the story
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: for yourself. Today we have an article from The Independent
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and the headline, Whitey Bulger's killers were tipped off about
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: mobsters prison arrival and murdered him within six minutes. This
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: article was authored by Rachel Sharp. So what are they
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: just they have, you know, psychological ability where they know
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: what's happening. They're all psychics in here. These three dudes.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Of course not. Somebody tipped them off. And it wasn't
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: another inmate who tipped them off, right? It was somebody
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: who works for the prison, obviously. Somebody who knows who's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: getting moved, who's not going to be moved. And there's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: something else going on here. But of course, we'll never
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of that. They'll just say that
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: these guys were tipped off. Nobody's ever going to get arrested.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to go to prison. Just like with Epstein.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Who was in charge of all of that documentation from
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that first night in the lockup? There was no chain
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of custody? And if not, then everybody who was working
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: there should be fired anyway because that's not protocol. But
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: yet still, no answers. And now it took us, what,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: four years to get any answers here? The three men
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: accused of murdering James Whitey Bulger were tipped off about
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the notorious mobster's arrival at the prison, plotted in advance
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to kill him, and then bludgeoned him to death just
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: six minutes after cell doors opened for the day, according
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to prosecutors. So the second these cell doors opened, these
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: dudes knew exactly where he was and what they wanted
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to do. And they were able to do it. Nobody
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: was able to, nobody stopped them. And, again, another high-profile prisoner,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: one of the highest-profile prisoners, in the custody of the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: federal government, and they let this occur? Fotius Freddy Gies, 55, Paul, Paulie,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: De Cologero, 48, and Sean McKinnon, 36, were indicted last
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: week on charges of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. Now, look,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I don't have any sympathy for Whitey Bulger. Please don't
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: take it that way. The dude was an absolute animal,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a scumbag, and honestly got what he deserved. But my
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: problem is, how did they get tipped off? You know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it just goes back again to the whole entire conversation
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: about the Bureau of Prisons being an absolute open dumpster fire.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And nobody wants to do anything about it. You would
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: think with all of this stuff going on, that there
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: would be a top-to-bottom review, and anybody who isn't up
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to snuff would get the ax. You mean to tell
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: me there's not people out there that we could bring in,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in these administrator jobs especially, to do a better job,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: make things easier? Of course there are, but there's all
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: kinds of bureaucracy at play, right? And even if you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: get caught doing something untowards as one of these prison
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: guards or an administrator, chances are the union's going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: bail you out. Just take a look at Epstein's guards.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: They get themselves a little plea deal, but even more
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: than them. What about their bosses? We never even heard
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: their bosses' names, right? Who was the boss on duty
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that night? Who's the sergeant on duty? None of it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And it's the same shit here. There's no way that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: these dudes could have gotten access to Whitey Bulger unless
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: they had some inside help. The charges came almost four
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: years after the infamous leader of Boston's Winter Hill Gang
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was savagely beaten to death inside U.S. Penitentiary Hazleton in
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: West Virginia. The three suspects were all behind bars at
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the prison when Bulger was transferred there on the 29th
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of October of 2018. The next morning, the 89-year-old mob
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: boss was found by prison guards wrapped in blankets and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: posed to appear as if he were sleeping. He had
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: been beaten to death and was left almost unrecognizable. Well,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger has done a lot worse to people, honestly.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So you get in this life, you get what you deserve.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: That's how it works, right? Either you're going to get
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: killed or you're going to end up in prison and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: then you might get killed. There's no happy endings for
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: these people running around in the streets acting like a fool.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: This is the ending. But when you're one of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: most high profile prisoners in the prison system, this should
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: not occur. While almost four years have passed with no
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: charges brought over his death, the brutal murder has also
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: raised questions about the failings of the Federal Bureau of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Prisons to protect one of its most high-profile inmates, who
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: had a target on his back as a mobster turned
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: FBI informant. You would think that this guy, if anyone,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: would be locked in solitary, having guards over him, making
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: sure no one has access to him. I mean, really?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Dude's a snitch, bro. The worst kind of person in prison. Unless,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of course, you're a child molester. But there are so
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: many people that Whitey Bulger screwed along the way. So
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: many people he killed who had friends and relatives and family.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You didn't think there was going to be retribution? In
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: court on Monday, new details emerged about the timeline of
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the killing and some of the evidence said to tie
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the three suspects to the crime. Assistant U.S. Attorney Hannah
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Nowak said that Bulger's Killers, a former mafia hitman, a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: mobster involved in the murder and dismemberment of a 19-year-old girl,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and a convict with no known mob ties who was
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: released from prison just three weeks ago, somehow learned about
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: his arrival at the prison in advance. So you got
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: yourselves a cast of characters here, huh? A mobster involved
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in the murder of a dismemberment of a 19-year-old girl?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: What in the hell could a 19-year-old girl have done
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: That would make you have to dismember her. I mean, wow.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And again, who would want to be living this kind
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of life? I don't know why anyone would ever get
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: caught up with someone like Whitey Bulger. Dude's a psychopath,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a murderer, and legitimately a serial killer. Then, as soon
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: as they saw Bulger come into the unit, they planned
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to kill him, she said. Following his death, the three
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: suspects then allegedly confessed to carrying out the attack... to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: other inmates in the lockup. Well, yeah, you're going to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: try and, you know, build some face on this, right?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Your reputation is everything in prison. And if you're the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: guy who clipped Whitey Bulger and you're going to be
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in prison for the rest of your life anyway, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: might as well take those accolades, right? I know I would. Shit,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: what do you have to lose at this point? A
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: jailhouse phone call between McKinnon and his mother was played
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to the court, revealing that the inmate had advanced knowledge
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of Bulger's transfer to the penitentiary. We're getting ready to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: get another high-profile person here tonight, McKinnon said in the cell. No,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you should know the name. Ever heard the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: name Whitey Bulger? So, these dudes know. And what the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: prison's going to say is, oh, it was leaked some
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: other way. Someone else told them, there's no internal leaks here.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We have no problems with internal security. Meanwhile, just did
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a story yesterday about a warden raping girls. We know
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: how many corrections officers are on the take bringing shit
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: into these prisons, and we know of all the contraband
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that's coming in. So for them to act like, oh, well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: there's no way it could be a leak on our
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: end or a security issue, it's going to be laughable.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: because that's what they're going to do. Watch. When McKinnon
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: told his mother who the high-profile inmate was, his mother,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Prevost, urged him to stay clear of him. Stay
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: away from him, please, she said. McKinnon told his mother,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I can't, saying that his cellmate, Geese, was a henchman
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: for a mob family out of New York and Boston.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: His mother warned him that you get in trouble, to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: which he replied, don't worry, oh, I don't plan on it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So first of all, you schmuck, you're on the phone
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: talking about your criminalistic plot to whack Whitey Bulger, yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get in trouble. There's a reason these people
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: are in prison, right? All of the real good criminals, well,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: they haven't been caught. It's only the jerk-offs that are
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: getting nailed, and when you run your mouth like this
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: on the phone, and you're supposed to be a mob guy, well,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: you usually end up in the hooscow. There's a reason
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the new age mob guys that are out there these
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: days who aren't getting caught, who you never hear about,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. That's because they're doing all
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of their business in person. They don't even know what
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a phone is. The call was made at around 3.30 p.m.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: on October 29th, October 2018, around five hours before Bulger
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: arrived at the prison at 8.30 p.m. that night. Ms.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Nowak said the phone call proves that the inmates knew
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: about Bulger's impending arrival and began immediately plotting to kill him.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: So the question is, how did they know? It's not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: clear who tipped the inmates off about Bulger arriving at
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the penitentiary. I think that's the most important question here.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And as a journalist or a news outlet, I would
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: think that that would be where you want to start digging.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: That's what the question is here. How did these guys
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: get tipped off? Not the fact that Bulger got clipped.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: We all know that's a possibility, being in federal prison,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: as a snitch, but who told these guys he was coming?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: At 6 a.m. the next morning, all the cell doors
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: in the prison block were unlocked, and Geese and McKinnon,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: who were cellmates, were captured on surveillance footage meeting DeCologero
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in their cell. Just six minutes later, at 6.06 a.m.,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: surveillance footage allegedly captured Geese and DeCologero entering Bulger's cell.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: McKinnon is accused of positioning himself at a table outside
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to act as a lookout. Now, how is it that
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: nobody's watching surveillance video from the surveillance room and sees
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this going on? What are you guys doing in there,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: playing Jenga? It took just seven minutes to murder the mobster,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: who was 89 years old and wheelchair-bound at the time. Sorry,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I don't feel... Look, again, I don't feel any empathy
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: for Whitey Bulger. I'm very familiar and intimate with the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: kind of scumbag he is, and was, and the things
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he was up to. So, I don't have any remorse
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for him being murdered. That's not the point of this story.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: The point of this story is it was another failure
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. At 6.13 a.m., Geese
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and DiCologero left Bulger's cell, and the three suspects returned
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to Geese and McKinnon's cell, prosecutors said. Prison guards discover
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Bulger dead in his cell two hours later at 8.07 a.m.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, 8.07 a.m. two hours later? You guys don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: have a camera pointed on this dude's cell all the time?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And furthermore, at 89, knowing he's a snitch, you don't
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: put him in a more secure wing? It's the same
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: with Epstein. What is Epstein doing in his cell with
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Tartagliano? Nobody's ever going to explain that to me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: He had been in the prison for less than 12 hours,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: so it was obviously a planned hit, right? Obviously, there's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: no way that it was just coincidence. These guys were prepared,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: as the phone call McKinnon made to his mother shows. Ms.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Nowak told the court that the three jailhouse informants had
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: come forward to reveal that the suspects admitted to killing Bulger.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: One of the informants said De Coligero told him he
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and Geese beat the 89-year-old to death with a belt
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: with a lock attached to it while McKinnon was lookout.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: The motive for Bulger's murder remains unclear. Oh, yeah, very unclear.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, really? Again, you don't got to be Inspector
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Clousto here. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: know what the motive was. A, dude was a snitch.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Killed a lot of people and had a lot of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: heat on the street. And B, well, he was no
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: longer useful to his buddies in the FBI, right? So
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: no more protection for you. Go and get killed. Boy,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sounds familiar, doesn't it? One of the jailhouse informants said
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that De Colajero told him that Bulger was a snitch,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: according to prosecutors. At Monday's hearing, a federal judge ordered
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: McKinnon to be held behind bars ahead of trial. McKinnon
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: had been released from prison just three weeks earlier on
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the 27th of July after serving eight years for stealing
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and trading guns for heroin in Connecticut. He had no
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: known mob ties. That's what happens, though, when you go
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: to prison, right? You go there and you get a
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: real education on how to become a criminal. And if
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have any plans on turning your life around, well,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you're getting... a lot of education from a lot of really, well,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: let's say, scummy people. And that certainly was the case
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: for Mr. McKinnon, right? Went there on a gun and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: heroin charge and ended up running around with some mob guys. Meanwhile,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Geese and Di Cologero are also charged with aiding and
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: abetting first-degree murder and assault resulting in serious bodily injury.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Geese is also facing separate charge for murder by a
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: federal inmate serving a life sentence. Geese and DiCologero, who
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: both have mob ties, are accused of striking Bulger in
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the head multiple times and causing his death. Geese is
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: still behind bars at Hazleton Penitentiary. And Di Colasero is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: currently being held at a separate federal prison facility, prosecutors said.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And that's what they'll do, right? If you got a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: buddy and you dudes are involved in a hit on somebody,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: they're splitting you up right away. Someone's going to get
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: shifted somewhere else. You might stay. You might get shifted
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: as well. But the second you get involved in something
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like this, you're going to the next step up. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: these guys are going to go to whatever the highest
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: level security facility is. and it's not going to be
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: fun for them, that's for damn sure. Di Collegiero was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a member of Organized Crime Gang, the Di Collegiero crew,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: which reigned over the North Shore of Massachusetts, and is
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: currently serving a 25-year sentence for his part in the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: 1996 murder of 19-year-old Aislinn Silva. So this is a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: guy from Massachusetts, the North Shore, who obviously has intimate
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: knowledge of who Whitey Bulger is, and you put Bulger
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in a facility where these guys have access to him? Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that's not suspect or anything. Nobody should have any questions
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: about that. Geese, a longtime hitman and associate of the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Genovese organized crime family based in Springfield, Massachusetts. He is
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: currently serving a life sentence for the murders of mob
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: boss Adolfo Big Al Bruno and mob associate Gary Westerman,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and the attempted murder of union boss Frank Dabato. At
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the time of his murder, Bulger was serving two life
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: sentences for the murders of 11 people, as well as
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a string of other charges including extortion, money laundering, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: drug dealing. And he was doing all of this while
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: working with the feds, by the way, folks. Don't forget that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: The FBI, that was their guy. He was their guy,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: their number one informant. And at the same time, they
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: were helping him out, getting rid of his enemies, tipping
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: them off, making sure he doesn't go to jail. During
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the 70s and 80s, Bulger terrorized the streets of Boston
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: as the notorious leader of the Winter Hill Gang, while
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: also acting as an informant for the FBI. He famously
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: went on the run in 1995. one day before he
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: was to be indicted on federal racketeering charges, and evaded
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: justice for the next 16 years, 12 of which he
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: was on the FBI's most wanted list. It's funny that
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the FBI would put him on the most wanted list
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: when it was the FBI who tipped him off in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the first place. Oh, you don't believe me? Once again,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: dig into the story. And also, by the way, that's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: why the way we do things here on this podcast
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: is to use sourced materials. I'm not going to sit
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: out here and waste your time by running you around
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in the weeds. So a guy like Whitey Bulger and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: his relationship with the FBI, that should be something that
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is just common knowledge to people. But unfortunately, a lot
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: of people, they still believe that the FBI won't work
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: with people like Whitey Bulger or it's a big conspiracy theory.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Fact is, the FBI has no problem working with anyone
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: if they believe it's a means to an end. In 2011,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: at the age of 81, he was finally arrested in
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Santa Monica, California, and was convicted of 11 murders in 2013.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Right up until his death, Bulger continued to deny that
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he was ever a government informant. Yeah, well, of course.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's in prison the rest of his life, certainly doesn't
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: want to run around talking about, I have loose lips,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a government informant. That's not going to work out
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: well for him, as we see. Prison officials and Bulger's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: own family slammed the decision to move Bulger from a
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: safer prison in Florida to the troubled West Virginia prison,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: known to be dangerous to snitches, where he was also
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: placed among the general population. And look, here's the thing, okay?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: When we see stuff like this, it's not like the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: government killed him per se, right? Oh, but they did
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: kill him, didn't they? By putting him into the circumstances
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: that they put him into. And the same can be
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: said of Epstein. They put them in general population at first. Why?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Because they were hoping for something like this to happen.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That's my guess. Can I prove that? No, I cannot.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: But until somebody shows up with some evidence that can
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: knock me off that perch, here we are. And the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: more we hear about other stories like this, the more
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: we have to draw back and take a look at
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: what happened with Epstein. In 2020, Bulger's family filed a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: wrongful death lawsuit against the Federal Bureau of Prisons and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: 30 prison employees, saying that he was deliberately placed in
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: harm's way. The suit, which saw $ 200 million in damages,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: claimed that Bulger was subjected to a risk of a
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: certain death or serious bodily injury by the intentional or
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: deliberate indifferent actions of prison officials. A federal judge dismissed
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit in January. Of course he did, or she did.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: They don't want to, you know, have shit on their face, right?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: They don't want to expose the fact that the FBI
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: has been with Whitey Bulger every step of the way,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: holding his hand, letting him kill people, and turning the cheek.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Because that doesn't fit the narrative, right? That doesn't fit
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the narrative. And it's pathetic. It's gross. And it just
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: continues to happen time and time again. And when it
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: does happen, they just shrug their shoulders and keep it moving.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Because nobody, and I mean nobody, is ever held responsible.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We saw it with Whitey Bulger here. And we most
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: certainly saw it with Jeffrey Epstein. If you'd like to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: contact me, you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that I discussed,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that can be found in the description box. All right, everybody,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for now, and we will
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: be back with a little bit more later on. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: hope that all of you are having a fantastic day.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. We
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: were recently talking about the men who were arrested for
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the alleged murder of Whitey Bulger. And one of those men,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Sean McKinnon, is pleading his innocence and saying he had
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with what went on. In fact, he
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: says he was trying to fix his life when he
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: was called down to his parole officer's office to sign
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: some paperwork. And that's where the U.S. Marshals swooped in.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So let's take a look at this exclusive interview with
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Sean McKinnon from NBC News. Headline, Whitey Bulger murder suspect
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: says everybody knew he was coming to their prison. This
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: article was authored by Rich Shapiro. And of course that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what he's going to say. Because if he doesn't say that,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and him and his buddies had some inside information, that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: really opens up a can of worms, doesn't it? One
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of the men charged in the killing of James Whitey
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Bulger inside of a West Virginia prison said in an
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: exclusive jailhouse interview that all the inmates in his unit
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: knew in advance that the notorious gangster was being moved there.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: How is that any better? What, did the guards go
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: around telling inmates, hey look, Whitey Bulger's on his way,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: get your locks ready. Get your sock ready with a
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: lock in it so you can bust his ass when
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he gets here. I mean, no matter how you chop it,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it's bad news for... the Federal Bureau of Prisons, just
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: like with Epstein. How do you let somebody like this
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: get killed? Whitey Bulger should have never even been at
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Hazleton in West Virginia. Bulger, 89, was found beaten to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: death less than 12 hours after he was placed in
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: his cell at the USP Hazleton Federal Prison, one of
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the most violent penitentiaries in the country. So you have
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: an 89-year-old man, obviously a scumbag, a man who deserves
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to do a lot of time, but why would you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: put him in this situation? Why wouldn't you put him
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in a more secure facility where you're going to be
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: able to monitor the behavior of the inmates around him
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and make sure that he isn't assaulted? Because when you
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: have a high-level inmate like this, especially somebody who's snitched
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on their friends, forget it. They're in serious jeopardy every
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: single minute that they're in one of these facilities. Everybody
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: knew he was coming, Sean McKinnon told NBC News in
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: a phone call from a Florida jail. McKinnon, 36, is
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: accused of acting as a lookout while two other inmates
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: rushed into Bulger's cell and beat him with a lock
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: on the morning of October 30th, 2018. Now, McKinnon was
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: the cellmate Of one of the other killers. And according
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to authorities. They all worked in conjunction. To make sure
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: this operation. Went off without a hitch. With McKinnon as
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the lookout. And then the other two men. Going into
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the cell. To beat the wheelchair ridden. Whitey Bulger to death.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: At a detention hearing last month. Prosecutors said McKinnon told
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: his mother. In a recorded phone call. Before Bulger was
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: moved to the prison, that the Boston mobster was set
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to arrive there. Suggesting he had inside information that played
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: a role in the killing. See, what'll happen here is
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they'll whitewash the whole thing. We'll get the whole rigmarole
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: from them, right? Oh, it was just a systemic error.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: It was a mistake. Somebody saw the transfer paperwork. We'll
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: get some kind of stupid story from the federal government.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: But the fact is this. How many of these prisoners,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: high-level prisoners... Are they going to let get hurt while
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: they're in the custody of the federal government? That's the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: question we all need to be asking ourselves, because how
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is it that somebody like this is not protected? McKinnon
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: told NBC News that Bulger's impending arrival at USP Hazleton
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: was an open secret in his housing unit. So that's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: bad too. Even if it wasn't directly leaked to these
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: three dudes who ended up killing Whitey Bulger, how is
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: it that this information is divulged to inmates on the tier...
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: about a high-profile prisoner who's about to get transferred there.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Someone who, A, worked for the government, B, has a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: lot of enemies, and C, is very, very high-profile. You
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: would think that would be kept under wraps. I heard
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it from another inmate, not even one of the guys
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: from Massachusetts, he said. It was like, I got this
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: secret news. I was just a little fish in the sea.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: So McKinnon's totally downplaying his role here, right? I was
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: just a lookout. I was just a guy that was
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: along for the ride. I really had no idea what
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: was going on. And in reality, that's probably the case.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He was just along for the ride. He wasn't the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: guy who put his hands on Bulger, according to authorities.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: He wasn't in the cell using the lock and the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: sock on Bulger. But he did work as the lookout,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: so he's involved, right? Now you're part of the conspiracy.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: The Federal Bureau of Prisons has received sharp criticism for
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: its decision to place Bulger in general population of a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: penitentiary where two inmates had been killed in the previous
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: six months. It remains unclear why an inmate like Bulger,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: an elderly former FBI informant, was moved to a prison
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like USP Hazleton. No, it's not. They were looking to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: get revenge on him. The federal government was done with
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger, so no more protection. How long have we
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: talked about this? When you're an asset for somebody like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the FBI or the CIA or the DEA, when you're
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: giving them solid information and your information is useful, then
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you're useful. When you're not useful anymore, well, they burn
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the asset. And that's exactly what happened with Whitey Bulger.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: As soon as he wasn't useful anymore, forget it. No
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: more protection. He's not giving them anything anymore. So why
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: should they protect him? And the same goes for Epstein
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the second time around. What did they think was going
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to happen, said Jack Donson, a retired Bureau of Prisons
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: official who spent most of his 23 years at the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: agency screening inmates set to enter the federal prison in Otisville,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: New York. There was a breakdown at every level. See,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of that. Every time we turn around, they
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: tell us, oh, it was a breakdown at every level. Oh,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: it was an administrative failure. Oh, it was a systemic failure. Well,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: how many times are we going to accept that that's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: what's going on? And if that's the case, and that
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: is what's going on, when are you guys going to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: fix it? Are you not going to fire everybody who's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: involved right now and bring in new people to do
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a better job? Because from where I'm sitting, it certainly
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like anyone's trying to fix anything if it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: this big systemic problem that we keep hearing about. Or
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: is it something a lot darker? Because how many times
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are we going to see this happen over and over
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and over with ex-FBI informants, ex-CIA informants, ex-insert three-letter agency
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: informant here who is no longer useful, who ends up
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: going missing or ends up dying or takes a leap
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: out of a window? I'm sure it's just all a coincidence, right?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: A spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons declined comment. Prosecutors
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: say two men, Fotias Freddy Geese, 55, and Paul DiCologero, 48,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: killed Bulger minutes after the cell doors on their unit
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: were unlocked ahead of breakfast. Now, Geese and DiCologero were
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: both involved in organized crime in Massachusetts. So once you're
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: involved in organized crime in Massachusetts during this time period,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you know who Whitey Bulger is, and chances are your
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: paths have crossed as far as your criminal activities go.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So there's animus here already. And then you add to
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that that these dudes know a lot of the people
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: that Whitey Bulger was snitching on. And of course, you're
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: going to have a situation where Whitey Bulger is in
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: extreme danger. Now, don't get it twisted. I don't think
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger is a good guy and he got what
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: he deserved. But once you're in the custody of the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: federal government, they have a duty to protect you, right?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And how many times do we see them not live
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: up to that duty? And it sure is convenient that
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time that we hear about it,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it's somebody that has some dirt on the federal government.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Geese and DiCologero were both involved in organized crime in Massachusetts. Geese,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a mafia hitman, was serving a life sentence for murder.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: DiCologero was serving a 25-year sentence after being convicted of
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: racketeering and witness tampering. McKinnon was from New Hampshire and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: had no known affiliation with organized crime, according to local authorities.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: That's how it works. You show up in prison for
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a drug stint. Next thing you know, you're racking and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: bunking with some organized crime figure. And now you're a
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: henchman and there's nothing you can do about it. What
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: are you going to do? You're in that prison. You're alone.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You have no backup. These dudes are running the whole
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: entire tier, running the whole car. So you have to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: play ball, right? So you show up there on a
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: drug beef, and before you know it, you're shanking somebody
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and looking at maybe another 20 years behind bars. It's
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: a sick-ass trap. He was in prison for stealing guns
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: from a firearm store and selling them in exchange for drugs,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and he was locked up in the same cell as Geese.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Once the unit's doors opened at 6 a.m., Deco Leggero
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: went into the cell shared by Geese and McKinnon, according
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: to prosecutors. The three men walked out a few minutes
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: later with Geese and Deco Leggero heading straight into Bulger's cell.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: It took them only seven minutes to murder the once
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: feared crime boss and leave his cell, prosecutors said. Well,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how it would take seven minutes.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Old boy was 89 years old in a wheelchair running
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: around like Grandpa Tuco from Breaking Bad. Shouldn't have taken
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you guys that long, right? During that time, McKinnon was
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: sitting at a table that provided him a view of
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Bulger's cell and the guard station, according to prosecutors. In
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: his interview with NBC News, McKinnon said he was in
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: fact sitting among a group of other inmates watching television.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: There were 10 other guys there with me, he said.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: McKinnon professed his innocence and said he believes he's been
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: targeted in a witch hunt. There might have been 10
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: other guys there watching TV, but let's be real. McKinnon
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: was Selly's with DeGeese. And DeGeese was the key hitman
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: here going after Bulger. So let's not act like you
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: have no knowledge of what happened, Mr. McKinnon. Come on now.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm an innocent man caught up in the wrong stuff,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: he said. A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney for the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Northern District of West Virginia, which is handling the case,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: declined to comment. Bulger was moved to the West Virginia
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Penitentiary from a prison in Central Florida known as a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: safe haven for government witnesses and others likely to be
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: targeted by fellow inmates. That was done on purpose, too.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: The federal government, again, once they have no more use
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: for you, they'll burn you as an asset and they
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: have no empathy where they put you. Just take a
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: look at where they dropped old Whitey Bulger here after
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: he wasn't of any use anymore. He was almost 90
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: years old with a history of heart problems and high
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: blood pressure, and he needed a wheelchair to move around.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: According to prison records, he was designated to be transferred
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: after he threatened a nurse. But he only arrived at
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Hazleton USP after someone had inexplicably changed his medical classification
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to a level that indicated he was in relatively good health,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the records show. So they always say someone changed the record.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Someone got rid of the tapes. Who is someone? And
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: is someone going to face punishment the same way me
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: or you would if we fucked up at our job?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: And I guess there is where my biggest problem is.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: All of these institutions, all of these three-letter agencies, they're
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: so protected, whether it be by their union or by
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: insiders or just by the fact that the government doesn't
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: want to have any dirt on their face. Bolger was
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: wheeled into his cell after 8.30 p.m. on the night
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of October 29, 2018. He was found dead the following
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: morning at 8.07 a.m., prosecutors said. Nearly four years after
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the killing, Geese, DiColigero, and McKinnon were charged with conspiracy
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to commit first-degree murder. Geese and DiColigero were hit with
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: additional charges, aiding and abetting first-degree murder and assault resulting
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: in serious bodily injury. McKinnon was also charged with making
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: false statements to a federal agent. So they're dropping the
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: whole Monty on these dudes, right? Giving them the whole business. Basically,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Rico charges, but... Charges like that within the jail cell.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: So they're going to get more years tacked on top
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: of their already existing sentences. In an interview, McKinnon said
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: FBI agents interviewed him twice in the following years. He
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: said he had no information to provide them. I don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: know nothing. I wasn't part of nothing. I don't know
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: what they did that morning, he said, referring to Geese
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and Deco Leggero. McKinnon was out of prison living and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: working in Florida when he was arrested in connection with
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Bulger's murder. Imagine you get out of prison on your stint,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: off your beef, trying to do the right thing, and
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you get nailed by your PO because you're caught up
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: in this Whitey Bulger murder, allegedly. He said he found
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: out about the charges after he was tricked into showing
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: up at the federal courthouse in Ocala. Earlier in the day,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: his parole officer called him on the phone and said
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: he needed to come in to fill out some paperwork. Oh,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that's an old-ass trick. They'll get you with that one. Oh, yeah,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: come in and fill out some paperwork. Show up and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the whole entire posse's there waiting to arrest you. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: as soon as he arrived at the federal courthouse, two U.S.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Marshals pulled him aside and handcuffed him. It was a heartbreak,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: McKinnon said. I did stupid things when I was younger,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he added, but I've been trying to make up for
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: that by living as a productive person, and now it's
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: being ripped away. Aw, cry me a sad song, Mr. McKinnon, really?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: He said his mother set up a GoFundMe account in
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the hope of raising enough money to hire a private attorney.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: These are the worst kinds of charges. Conspiracy, McKinnon said.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: It's going to be the fight of my life. Well,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: he's not wrong about that. Conspiracy charges are some of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the worst. And as far as financially, forget it. Even
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: if you're rich, this is bad news all the way
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: around for you if you get hit with conspiracy. But
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the real issue here is that the federal government put
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger in this position. Now again, I'm not sitting
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: here defending Whitey Bulger. The guy was an absolute scumbag
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and deserved what he got. But the problem is he
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: got it while being protected by the federal government. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it just goes to show you once again how terrible
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: things are. And this whole ass institution, the Bureau of Prisons,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: needs to be revamped, audited, and fixed. Because I'm tired
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: of hearing about, oh, it's a systemic problem. And then
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the systemic problem never gets fixed. All right, everybody, that's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode. If you'd like
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: to contact me, you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that I discussed
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. All right, folks,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be back later on with a little bit more.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I hope that all of you are having a good one.