Latest / Tea Time w/Amie & Bev / Episode #330: You Were a Child Trying to Make Sense of an Adult Story
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to tea time with Amy and Bev
- 0:05Speaker 1: go and sister.
- 0:07Speaker 2: It's going, It's going, I will say this going. Life
- 0:14Speaker 2: is entertaining, life is lifeing.
- 0:17Speaker 1: For sure.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Yes, I could probably sit back and watch my own
- 0:21Speaker 2: freaking show and roll and ravel and eat the popcorn. Really,
- 0:25Speaker 2: that's probably not even a bad idea. Now, a lot
- 0:28Speaker 2: of things have been happening. I have spoke to one
- 0:30Speaker 2: of my aunts on my biological father's side. I have
- 0:33Speaker 2: reached out to my biological father a few times, and
- 0:37Speaker 2: there's not a lot of strong communication or much of
- 0:39Speaker 2: any communication, which it is what it is. And I
- 0:43Speaker 2: also know that he had gone through some sort of
- 0:45Speaker 2: surgery and hasn't been really quite the same since that recently,
- 0:49Speaker 2: so but I reach out.
- 0:51Speaker 3: But I went over and saw his sister, which is.
- 0:53Speaker 2: My aunt obviously, and she gave me pictures of my
- 0:59Speaker 2: dad when he was a little boy with my grandfather
- 1:02Speaker 2: that I have a different perspective on. And that's what
- 1:06Speaker 2: kind of where we'll go with things perspectives. So my
- 1:09Speaker 2: perspectives was that was the child, bluster, that was this,
- 1:13Speaker 2: That was that, But there was more to a person
- 1:15Speaker 2: than that. He was still and I don't know how
- 1:17Speaker 2: it was for his whole family, but you know, you
- 1:19Speaker 2: hear other different stories, not that anybody said a single
- 1:22Speaker 2: thing about him. But I got to see him, and
- 1:26Speaker 2: from my adult perspective, I'm not afraid of him. I
- 1:30Speaker 2: don't have any fear about him. I don't have any
- 1:32Speaker 2: emotional reaction or any feelings about him at all whatsoever,
- 1:35Speaker 2: which was pretty freeing for myself, honestly, because we get
- 1:39Speaker 2: these ideas in our head, of these perspective, of these
- 1:41Speaker 2: stories that we circulate, and then that's all that that
- 1:45Speaker 2: person or that thing could ever possibly be. And then
- 1:48Speaker 2: when you step aside from it, it's like he was
- 1:50Speaker 2: just another person that was being abused by somebody else.
- 1:53Speaker 2: It was just another person that was looking for acceptance
- 1:55Speaker 2: from somebody else. It was just another person. He was
- 1:58Speaker 2: just another person that was in my experience for me
- 2:00Speaker 2: to grow. And so I got to see my father
- 2:03Speaker 2: growing up, and I got to talk to my aunt,
- 2:06Speaker 2: ask her like.
- 2:07Speaker 3: How was he? How was he?
- 2:09Speaker 2: And she said he was super shy, didn't communicate really well,
- 2:12Speaker 2: and you know, I'll have all these other perspectives. And
- 2:14Speaker 2: then one of my kids said, well, you don't have
- 2:16Speaker 2: your problem. You know, you know, being shy and finding
- 2:19Speaker 2: women or whatever. But it's like that was my mom's perspective,
- 2:22Speaker 2: So I'm taking on my mom's perspective. Was my mom's perspective,
- 2:25Speaker 2: right who knows it was her perspective. And it's like
- 2:28Speaker 2: we take on all these ideas and beliefs from somebody
- 2:31Speaker 2: else as if it's our own.
- 2:33Speaker 3: We accept that that those are the true answers.
- 2:36Speaker 2: And it's so from now, I'm in a space where
- 2:38Speaker 2: I'd like to get to know my biological father and
- 2:41Speaker 2: know what his life was growing up, know what his
- 2:43Speaker 2: experiences were, know about know about him, and he's not
- 2:47Speaker 2: in a space to communicate that, which is fine because
- 2:50Speaker 2: then I get an opportunity to talk to my aunt.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I get an opportunity to see the grandmother that thought
- 2:54Speaker 2: that I you know, I was walking around and just
- 2:57Speaker 2: shaking my button. You know, I I eight year years
- 3:00Speaker 2: old or seven and six, you know, this is this
- 3:02Speaker 2: is what happens when you behave that way. Well, but
- 3:05Speaker 2: I got to see her in a different perspective. I
- 3:07Speaker 2: got to see her as a young she was a
- 3:09Speaker 2: beautiful woman. Like I got to see all these different things,
- 3:12Speaker 2: and I got to paint I can change my story
- 3:14Speaker 2: at any time. This is my pot for the whole thing.
- 3:17Speaker 2: My perspective was that and I've been how many times
- 3:19Speaker 2: have I said, and it's been recorded many times, I
- 3:22Speaker 2: don't remember my childhood? Well, how can you remember every
- 3:25Speaker 2: part of your childhood if your main focus is always
- 3:28Speaker 2: on the trauma? And mine was It wasn't on all
- 3:31Speaker 2: the rest of the stuff. And I didn't realize that
- 3:33Speaker 2: until I'm driving home on Friday and I'm talking to
- 3:36Speaker 2: one of my daughters, sending her a message, and I said,
- 3:39Speaker 2: because her response was, well, you have a right to
- 3:41Speaker 2: have those feelings, you know what I mean, the trauma,
- 3:45Speaker 2: to have that response of the things that happened to me.
- 3:47Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this works for everybody, but this
- 3:48Speaker 2: is what I'm experiencing right now, and it's for me.
- 3:52Speaker 3: It's it's very free.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I'm driving home and I'm like, like, not in a
- 3:57Speaker 2: defensive place of this is why I am in community.
- 4:00Speaker 2: But I'd like to have the different perspectives, I said,
- 4:02Speaker 2: because what if I always told you guys, i'd like
- 4:06Speaker 2: to know my mom with all the traumas, I'd liked
- 4:08Speaker 2: it because I didn't sit and have conversations with her
- 4:10Speaker 2: about this stuff, and I said, what I can tell you.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I remember being in a BW Van bust and driving
- 4:17Speaker 2: through the hills where the dairy was at and listening to,
- 4:22Speaker 2: you know, disco music.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And having a good time.
- 4:25Speaker 2: I could remember walking to the going to the beach
- 4:28Speaker 2: in my flip flops breaking, and it didn't matter that
- 4:31Speaker 2: my feet were frying, and you just kind of scooted
- 4:33Speaker 2: to the next shady place. You didn't stay in that
- 4:35Speaker 2: space of, oh my god, your daughter's feet reburning?
- 4:39Speaker 3: Did you have an extra praya shot?
- 4:40Speaker 1: Like?
- 4:40Speaker 2: There's so many bullshit things that you can come up
- 4:42Speaker 2: with in your mind to feed that trauma that victim.
- 4:44Speaker 2: That all that perspected. And as soon as I started
- 4:49Speaker 2: telling her all these different stories.
- 4:50Speaker 3: More and more stuff started coming forward.
- 4:52Speaker 2: And I said, wouldn't it be nicer to know that
- 4:54Speaker 2: story about me or that story about my father or
- 4:58Speaker 2: that story instead of having the perspective that I've gone
- 5:01Speaker 2: through my whole life. Because I learned to look at
- 5:03Speaker 2: the traumas I learned to look at being a victim,
- 5:06Speaker 2: I learned.
- 5:07Speaker 3: To be in that space.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I don't have to stay in that space anymore. So
- 5:11Speaker 2: with all that being said, everything that I've experienced in
- 5:14Speaker 2: the last week has been very free. It's not always
- 5:17Speaker 2: comfortable because then I have to take a look at
- 5:19Speaker 2: myself about behaviors and why I do certain things or
- 5:22Speaker 2: when things come up inside of me, and you can't
- 5:25Speaker 2: blame anybody else there, there's nobody else at fault. So
- 5:28Speaker 2: it's it's been quite a lot of growing. Some of
- 5:30Speaker 2: it's been great, some of it's been uncomfortable, and some
- 5:33Speaker 2: of it's been downright kind of shitty sometimes that you
- 5:36Speaker 2: can't even catch your own breath to process things, but
- 5:39Speaker 2: then you know that it passes.
- 5:41Speaker 3: So there's a lot in that right there. But hopefully
- 5:44Speaker 3: it was clear it made sense.
- 5:47Speaker 1: There is a lot in that. There's so many directions
- 5:50Speaker 1: we can go any you know, you talked, you said
- 5:55Speaker 1: that you're you're Graham, So it would be your grandmother, right,
- 6:00Speaker 1: your grandfather's wife. Yes, she she was the one you
- 6:05Speaker 1: said was beautiful.
- 6:07Speaker 2: I never saw this picture of her, Yes, And absolutely
- 6:10Speaker 2: it's because we get a perspective of somebody in our
- 6:12Speaker 2: mind and that's where they stay. Yeah, in the suitcase
- 6:15Speaker 2: that we carry around on her back all the time.
- 6:17Speaker 1: But she is she the one that also like accused
- 6:21Speaker 1: you of walking around shaking your butt at eight years old,
- 6:23Speaker 1: being and so what came to me, I just wanted
- 6:26Speaker 1: to make sure I was hearing that correctly before I
- 6:28Speaker 1: move forward with what I was going to say is
- 6:31Speaker 1: and this isn't where the conversation has to go, but
- 6:34Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that from perspective, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 1: you're an innocent eight year old being a child, and
- 6:43Speaker 1: her insecurity could see you as a threat through jealousy
- 6:47Speaker 1: because you're young, and you're vibrant and beautiful in your
- 6:51Speaker 1: own right and all the things. So she's seeing through
- 6:56Speaker 1: her eyes, which is her perspective, through her own insecurity,
- 7:00Speaker 1: that she may not be getting the attention that she
- 7:03Speaker 1: needs or things like that. Right, So when you think
- 7:05Speaker 1: about perspective, all of us have it, you and I.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Every time we show up for these for tea time,
- 7:12Speaker 1: we have different perspectives. We're getting something out of it
- 7:15Speaker 1: in our own way, and it's not always the same.
- 7:19Speaker 1: It's might be similar, but it's not going to be
- 7:21Speaker 1: the same. It's not going to you know, we're not
- 7:23Speaker 1: going to get done and then have the same experiences
- 7:27Speaker 1: because the conversation, the conversation is that we are going
- 7:31Speaker 1: to hear what we need to hear, or we said
- 7:33Speaker 1: something out loud that we needed to say out loud
- 7:35Speaker 1: and heard it for ourselves and then we're like, oh,
- 7:39Speaker 1: and we've done that multiple times in our conversations. You know,
- 7:42Speaker 1: we're like, as I say it frequently, as I say
- 7:46Speaker 1: this out loud, this is what I'm hearing back to myself. So, yeah,
- 7:52Speaker 1: perspective is huge when it comes to interactions, especially relationships.
- 7:59Speaker 1: You know, your significant other, person you live with, is
- 8:05Speaker 1: you're seeing the perspective from one way and they're seeing
- 8:08Speaker 1: it from a different angle, and unless there's communication, then
- 8:13Speaker 1: there's going to be resistance discord, right, So I just
- 8:19Speaker 1: wanted to kind of make that as a as a
- 8:22Speaker 1: point of perspective from what you were saying.
- 8:26Speaker 2: So one hundred percent, you're one hundred percent, I would say,
- 8:30Speaker 2: from my perspective, you're a hundred.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Percent on it.
- 8:33Speaker 2: It's the truth and it's and we don't realize that's
- 8:36Speaker 2: where we learned our people's skills. We learned our people's
- 8:40Speaker 2: skills from that space. And so I don't remember if
- 8:43Speaker 2: it was you or whoever. It's like when even like
- 8:46Speaker 2: when you see when you would see your parents.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Not everybody got to see their parents' fight.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I got to see my parents fight occasionally, but never
- 8:52Speaker 2: got to see how do they resolve that? You know,
- 8:55Speaker 2: where was the resolution in that? So it's like there
- 8:57Speaker 2: there is these tools that we didn't gain and it's okay.
- 9:00Speaker 2: But now it's I'm in this place where I'm open
- 9:03Speaker 2: to receiving more information because I want to do and
- 9:06Speaker 2: be better within myself. It's not even it's for everybody
- 9:10Speaker 2: else too, but it's it's for myself because I don't. Man,
- 9:15Speaker 2: you just don't know until you know, You just don't know.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a well, so for the audience, if
- 9:24Speaker 1: this is your first time being with us, I didn't
- 9:27Speaker 1: know my biological dad, and neither did Bev and so
- 9:34Speaker 1: and then we both had experiences of being molested. So
- 9:38Speaker 1: her and I have been walking this similar path and
- 9:42Speaker 1: so a lot of what she says resonates with me.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Even though we've had different journeys, they're similar and.
- 9:52Speaker 4: You bringing this up is it amazes me.
- 9:58Speaker 1: But I know it's divine timing and all the things.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Because this past week, I too had an experience of.
- 10:05Speaker 4: Pulling up memories.
- 10:08Speaker 1: And I had the experience of being molested at fourteen,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and I after that went into a very deep depression.
- 10:21Speaker 1: I've talked about this multiple times in our videos of
- 10:24Speaker 1: from fourteen to thirty five. It was suicidal thoughts almost
- 10:28Speaker 1: on a daily basis, and I didn't want to be here, obviously,
- 10:32Speaker 1: but something was stronger than me that kept me going.
- 10:36Speaker 1: And years ago, when I started my healing journey and
- 10:41Speaker 1: was working through the mental and emotional turmoil, one of
- 10:47Speaker 1: the things I was very, very very angry about was
- 10:51Speaker 1: that nobody ever asked me if I was okay. After
- 10:55Speaker 1: it came to the surface of what had happened. Nobody
- 11:00Speaker 1: ever asked me if I was okay. Nobody asked me
- 11:04Speaker 1: what happened? Like, I had so much anger at me
- 11:08Speaker 1: about that. Through my healing process, you know, I came
- 11:13Speaker 1: to terms with that. As soon as somebody finds out
- 11:17Speaker 1: information like and this experience happened. First of all, there's denial.
- 11:23Speaker 1: There's no way this person could have done that, Okay,
- 11:26Speaker 1: So they're in their denial, they're in their own grief,
- 11:28Speaker 1: their own in their own shame, they're in their own
- 11:30Speaker 1: guilt because they maybe intuitively knew but didn't say anything,
- 11:35Speaker 1: or intuitively know new and and and ignored all the
- 11:40Speaker 1: signs or you know, just put a blind eye.
- 11:44Speaker 4: To it, whatever, whatever it was.
- 11:46Speaker 1: They went into their own story because of their perspective
- 11:52Speaker 1: and couldn't be in a space to hear anything more.
- 11:58Speaker 1: They couldn't hear the details. They couldn't hear what I
- 12:03Speaker 1: was going through, and so I had to do a
- 12:06Speaker 1: lot of healing around that and forgiveness. So a week ago,
- 12:16Speaker 1: at the time this is being recorded, a week ago,
- 12:21Speaker 1: I was in a had an experience where some of
- 12:25Speaker 1: this story was surfacing again coming up. I left the experience,
- 12:34Speaker 1: was driving home, and it came up again about here
- 12:39Speaker 1: we are, twenty one years later from being thirty five
- 12:43Speaker 1: and going through healing to fifty six. Still what came
- 12:47Speaker 1: up for me was still nobody has ever asked me
- 12:51Speaker 1: if I was okay. Nobody ever asked me what happened?
- 12:59Speaker 1: But the beauty and it was there was no anger
- 13:02Speaker 1: attached to it. The thought came up, and I'm like, yep,
- 13:06Speaker 1: it's true. Nobody has ever asked me any questions, had
- 13:10Speaker 1: any conversation, has had any other perspective, Like you're saying,
- 13:15Speaker 1: you're getting different perspectives about these adults who raised or
- 13:19Speaker 1: gave virtue, raised you, but it was just like huh interesting,
- 13:28Speaker 1: but no anger, So just us having And it happens
- 13:34Speaker 1: almost every time we have these conversations that we're living
- 13:38Speaker 1: these parallel experiences, similar, similar things are happening with us,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and then we get to come together and have these
- 13:44Speaker 1: conversations and be like, oh, yeah, me do so so yeah.
- 13:51Speaker 1: So the perspective coming back too, it was a perspective
- 13:54Speaker 1: that I saw through the eyes of a child being
- 13:58Speaker 1: put through this traumatic experience and then living with it
- 14:01Speaker 1: and never having the support from loved ones to move
- 14:09Speaker 1: through it or anything like. All my support was outside
- 14:14Speaker 1: of the circle the family, the friend circle was outside
- 14:19Speaker 1: of that, and it wasn't through traditional therapy either. So
- 14:24Speaker 1: so the perspective at that time was I was very hurt.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I felt abandoned again, abandoned by a biological father, then
- 14:31Speaker 1: abandoned again because there was no support there for me.
- 14:36Speaker 1: They but they didn't have the capacity to be there
- 14:39Speaker 1: to support me because they were living in their own
- 14:41Speaker 1: turmoil about it and there their own mental and emotional
- 14:46Speaker 1: struggles about it, even wrapping their head around that anybody
- 14:50Speaker 1: that they knew like that would even do something like that.
- 14:52Speaker 4: So, so you know, you we.
- 14:56Speaker 1: All see something and experience through through our eyes and
- 15:01Speaker 1: from our childhood programming, from our whole package of what
- 15:08Speaker 1: we have, and then we process an experience through the
- 15:12Speaker 1: information we have in our system. And I always use
- 15:17Speaker 1: a computer as an example. A computer can only operate
- 15:22Speaker 1: from the programming it has in it, the programs, the apps,
- 15:26Speaker 1: and if it doesn't have the tools that it needs
- 15:34Speaker 1: to do something you wanted to do, you have to
- 15:37Speaker 1: go get another programmer app. So it's just like ai
- 15:44Speaker 1: AI started in this small capacity where it could only
- 15:49Speaker 1: do so much output for you in a way that
- 15:52Speaker 1: it knew how.
- 15:53Speaker 4: But now as.
- 15:54Speaker 1: People are you know, billions of people are using it
- 15:57Speaker 1: on a daily basis. It's getting smarter and it's getting
- 16:03Speaker 1: more precise, and the output today is so much different
- 16:08Speaker 1: than it was three years ago. So we have to
- 16:13Speaker 1: understand that about ourselves, that the what our package has mental, emotional, physical,
- 16:19Speaker 1: and spiritual, what we store in our body from the
- 16:22Speaker 1: experiences we've had in our lifetime. We are operating from
- 16:27Speaker 1: that programming. And because we're operating from that programming, we
- 16:33Speaker 1: see situations and experience from a certain perspective, just like
- 16:38Speaker 1: BEV was talking about, this is how I see it,
- 16:42Speaker 1: but from her looking at me and us having these
- 16:46Speaker 1: conversations and the words I'm saying, she's having a different perspective.
- 16:52Speaker 1: This is how we operate. We are such incredibly interesting
- 16:56Speaker 1: beings with all the tools and resources we have within
- 17:00Speaker 1: ourselves of how we function on a daily any moment,
- 17:05Speaker 1: but on a daily basis and interacting with other people,
- 17:09Speaker 1: we're actually crazy, like we're insane beings.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Wild. Wild is my word.
- 17:17Speaker 4: These days.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Everything seems wild, and it's not even a word that
- 17:21Speaker 2: I've ever used before, not frequently, but right now it's like, well,
- 17:24Speaker 2: that's wild. Or the storm that we had that was wild,
- 17:27Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a different perspective.
- 17:29Speaker 3: That's wild. Like for me to even if.
- 17:32Speaker 2: I could never have had this conversation the way we're
- 17:34Speaker 2: having this conversation right now, from the perspective that I'm at,
- 17:38Speaker 2: probably even five years ago now, it's like it's not
- 17:42Speaker 2: even possible. But there's such a shift that happens, and
- 17:45Speaker 2: it's on the other side of it, it's so fring
- 17:47Speaker 2: and you get to paint a different picture.
- 17:49Speaker 3: I don't have to sit and look at these people as.
- 17:51Speaker 2: If they're demons, and horrible, miserable people.
- 17:57Speaker 3: They were people.
- 17:59Speaker 2: They were people doing the same thing that we're doing,
- 18:02Speaker 2: not exactly because we're not carrying on the traumas, but
- 18:04Speaker 2: we still have stuff. I have seen some things recently,
- 18:09Speaker 2: and I would say that I had narcissistic tendencies quite honestly,
- 18:15Speaker 2: I really would.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I just said that about myself the other day too.
- 18:19Speaker 2: That's so that's funny, but it's but it's true, but
- 18:22Speaker 2: it's from my perspective, and it's and it's like, let's
- 18:24Speaker 2: not get caught up in the label, but let's look
- 18:27Speaker 2: at all the things. Because when you look at all
- 18:29Speaker 2: the things, it's like, Okay, well that's true, and now
- 18:32Speaker 2: I'm receiving a different perspective. I can either get pissed
- 18:35Speaker 2: off about the perspective that I'm getting, or I could
- 18:38Speaker 2: recognize if I am getting pissed off, it's triggered something
- 18:40Speaker 2: within me, because there is something within me that wants
- 18:43Speaker 2: to be different. But it but that has been the path,
- 18:45Speaker 2: that has been the process, and so that's what I've
- 18:49Speaker 2: been looking at too. That's why I say some of
- 18:50Speaker 2: the stuff that I'm looking at about myself is not
- 18:54Speaker 2: It hasn't been a walk in the park. But I
- 18:56Speaker 2: can't condemn myself. I have to love that part of
- 19:00Speaker 2: myself to know that I downloaded that information from somebody
- 19:04Speaker 2: around me and thought that that was the way that
- 19:05Speaker 2: I navigate the world. And I'm finding that's not the
- 19:09Speaker 2: way that I navigate the world. And I'm not sitting here,
- 19:11Speaker 2: like I said, I'm not going to condemn myself. I'm
- 19:13Speaker 2: not abusing myself for those processes. But I'm looking at
- 19:16Speaker 2: it and saying, okay, so now I'm questioning things. It
- 19:19Speaker 2: gives me the opportunity to sit back and kind of
- 19:21Speaker 2: listen a little bit more, feel a little bit, a
- 19:24Speaker 2: little bit more, not get so caught up in all
- 19:26Speaker 2: the words and the terminologies.
- 19:28Speaker 3: But to feel things. And it's not easy.
- 19:31Speaker 2: This is all guiding me right to the heart, and
- 19:34Speaker 2: I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing, to
- 19:36Speaker 2: be quite honest with you, that's the truth. It's like
- 19:38Speaker 2: everyone says you, I'll let your heart leave. Well, mother,
- 19:41Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying to do that, but I don't
- 19:44Speaker 2: know exactly what that means. So it's like it's like
- 19:46Speaker 2: my soul's telling me this is the process, and then
- 19:49Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how do I fit into
- 19:51Speaker 2: that process, like how do I what does that look like?
- 19:53Speaker 3: How do I do that?
- 19:54Speaker 2: And so the only way I can say to navigate
- 19:57Speaker 2: through that is continue asking questions. Notice the thing show
- 20:00Speaker 2: up in your experience. I'm really sitting and really focusing
- 20:06Speaker 2: and trying to feel even the smallest vibration, the smallest palpatis,
- 20:12Speaker 2: the little things in the chest area, just recognizing it
- 20:16Speaker 2: because I can feel other areas more pronounced, and I'm
- 20:18Speaker 2: and I am noticing that is shifting. I am noticing
- 20:22Speaker 2: that I can feel it, that it's always been there.
- 20:25Speaker 2: But it's like we shut ourselves down from our experiences
- 20:28Speaker 2: and there's no reason to do that because I'm safe.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I am safe to express myself. I am safe at
- 20:34Speaker 3: my environment. I'm safe.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.
- 20:42Speaker 1: When you're talking about, you know, being an adult and
- 20:44Speaker 1: you're handling things differently, seeing things differently, one of the
- 20:48Speaker 1: practices I learned from You can Heal your Life by
- 20:51Speaker 1: Louise Hey. She has a tool in there in.
- 20:55Speaker 4: Her book.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Of you think about your or just say a parent
- 21:04Speaker 1: or an adult. So if you know you think about
- 21:09Speaker 1: your adult mom or your adult dad, the book right there.
- 21:18Speaker 1: But then and visualize them ten years younger. And then
- 21:27Speaker 1: you keep going through that process, and you keep visualizing
- 21:30Speaker 1: them younger and younger and younger until they get into
- 21:34Speaker 1: like five years old, and imagine them as a five
- 21:39Speaker 1: year old and kind of thinking about the things they
- 21:47Speaker 1: had to endure at a very young age in their
- 21:50Speaker 1: childhood to be who they were when they were an adult.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Raising you.
- 21:55Speaker 1: It's just like giving you that different perspective, and then
- 22:00Speaker 1: and seeing them as they get younger, and then you
- 22:02Speaker 1: from there, you go like each year, four years old,
- 22:05Speaker 1: three years old, two years old to infant where they're
- 22:10Speaker 1: they're crawling and then she uses a I believe she
- 22:16Speaker 1: uses a stage. So then she says, you just see
- 22:18Speaker 1: them as this little infant who is happy and playful
- 22:22Speaker 1: and and has no concerns, no worries, and then they
- 22:28Speaker 1: just they just crawl away. They crawl off this you know,
- 22:31Speaker 1: away from from not like off.
- 22:34Speaker 4: The stage, but you know, to off the stage.
- 22:37Speaker 1: And you know, when I went through that process, I
- 22:40Speaker 1: was thinking, Wow, that's where the compassion came in for me.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Was what because I had I had two very emotionally
- 22:50Speaker 1: mentally abusive stepdads, and it was like wow, to think
- 22:56Speaker 1: about what they had to endure for them to become
- 23:00Speaker 1: an adult and be who they were, to act the
- 23:03Speaker 1: way they acted, or believe the way they believed. For
- 23:07Speaker 1: my mom, the thing she had to endure as a
- 23:11Speaker 1: child and then grow up and have the lack of
- 23:16Speaker 1: self confidence and self esteem that she had and the
- 23:20Speaker 1: lack of self love. Even though it is like self
- 23:23Speaker 1: love was not like a coined word. Back then, nobody
- 23:27Speaker 1: talked about self love. It wasn't a it wasn't a
- 23:30Speaker 1: daily conversation. Now today it is because we've learned so
- 23:34Speaker 1: much and with all the teachers and authors and such
- 23:38Speaker 1: that we've had before us, and so she didn't know
- 23:42Speaker 1: all those and so all the things that she had
- 23:45Speaker 1: to endure to be who she was an adult and
- 23:48Speaker 1: then a child raising a child. She was. She was
- 23:52Speaker 1: twenty when she had me, and she's still you know,
- 23:55Speaker 1: you think about your own kids now and being twenty
- 23:58Speaker 1: years old, and it's like, good, oh, don't have kids yet.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Like wait, but it's at twenty. We think we're an adult,
- 24:07Speaker 1: but we're still very young in our thinking and our
- 24:11Speaker 1: emotions and all that.
- 24:12Speaker 4: And her raising.
- 24:14Speaker 1: A child, So you know, when you go through that process,
- 24:18Speaker 1: I feel that's when you really get the perspective of
- 24:25Speaker 1: they each person has had their own childhood, their own
- 24:30Speaker 1: perspectives about their parents or the adults who raised them
- 24:34Speaker 1: or whether it's foster care or adopted, like it doesn't matter,
- 24:39Speaker 1: or that there were adults around them, people around them
- 24:43Speaker 1: where they learn things from. So then they develop their
- 24:46Speaker 1: own way of seeing through certain eyes, through a certain filter.
- 24:53Speaker 4: To take with us.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Right, we all take it with us into our adulthood.
- 25:00Speaker 1: So you know, no doubt, my mom was doing the
- 25:03Speaker 1: best she could raising me most of the time being
- 25:07Speaker 1: a single parent, and then getting into abusive relationships, like
- 25:11Speaker 1: she was doing what she thought she could do to
- 25:14Speaker 1: provide for us back then, Like it's total survival mode.
- 25:19Speaker 1: And back in those days, it was you know, you
- 25:21Speaker 1: need you're supposed to have a man in your life.
- 25:24Speaker 1: You're supposed to be this family, a man, a woman
- 25:27Speaker 1: and a child, you know, children. So and she was
- 25:32Speaker 1: working two jobs at it sometimes to support us. So
- 25:37Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, and a lot of times we
- 25:43Speaker 1: as children, like you said, we don't see the arguments
- 25:46Speaker 1: or we don't see we see the argument, but we
- 25:48Speaker 1: don't see the resolution.
- 25:52Speaker 4: We don't see the whole.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Gamut of the interaction between two people. A lot of times,
- 26:00Speaker 1: some of it happens when we're not home, some of
- 26:02Speaker 1: it happens behind a bedroom door, and we don't see
- 26:05Speaker 1: the whole story. We only get bits and pieces, and
- 26:11Speaker 1: then we hear the conversations we're not, you know, like
- 26:15Speaker 1: my mom and grand and my grandmother having conversations.
- 26:18Speaker 4: So I get bits and.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Pieces there, and so I develop my own story. But
- 26:26Speaker 1: that's all it is. It's a story because I don't
- 26:28Speaker 1: have all the details, and how could I How could
- 26:32Speaker 1: a child or any your friend, like we're friends, but
- 26:36Speaker 1: I don't have all the details of your life every
- 26:38Speaker 1: single day, So I don't know. I can make a
- 26:41Speaker 1: story up. But ninety nine ninety nine per says it's
- 26:45Speaker 1: going to be false. None of it's going to be truth.
- 26:50Speaker 1: It's my story. So every day we are living from
- 26:54Speaker 1: a perspective of stories that we've created within ourselves. And
- 26:58Speaker 1: that's kind of what you started out with. You had
- 27:01Speaker 1: these stories about your biological father and your your aunt,
- 27:05Speaker 1: your grandmother, your father, your grandfather, like you had these
- 27:07Speaker 1: stories that you created as a child, and I did
- 27:10Speaker 1: the same thing.
- 27:11Speaker 4: I did it too.
- 27:14Speaker 1: The only story I know to be true. Is my
- 27:17Speaker 1: own story, not anybody else's. Doesn't matter if it's my mom,
- 27:21Speaker 1: my dad, stepdads, grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends, cause I don't
- 27:26Speaker 1: know their stories.
- 27:30Speaker 4: I know my story.
- 27:33Speaker 1: So as an adult, like you know, you know, we
- 27:36Speaker 1: get caught up in the drama of everybody. You know
- 27:39Speaker 1: that all the dirt on people and what's going on
- 27:42Speaker 1: with them. And you know, a while back, I heard
- 27:46Speaker 1: somebody say it's not my story to tell. I was like, damn,
- 27:53Speaker 1: that's true, right, It's not my story to tell because
- 27:55Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell their story the way they're
- 27:57Speaker 1: going to tell their story, because I'm going to tell
- 27:59Speaker 1: it from my own inner perspective of what I think
- 28:03Speaker 1: is right or wrong. It's their story to tell, Let
- 28:08Speaker 1: them tell it.
- 28:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we fill in the blinks with whatever right experienced.
- 28:17Speaker 1: And I also learned like, if I hear something about Bev,
- 28:22Speaker 1: instead of sharing that story around, I'm gonna go to Bev. Hey, Bev,
- 28:25Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little concerned I'm hearing these things.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Is this true?
- 28:29Speaker 4: Not true?
- 28:31Speaker 1: Just letting you know, and she can validate it or
- 28:34Speaker 1: say it's none of your damn business.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Take a hike. I don't need to talk to you
- 28:38Speaker 4: about this, right, it's her choice.
- 28:41Speaker 1: But even so it is still not my story to tell.
- 28:45Speaker 1: So that's what we talk about. Gossip. There's gossip. Wow, Yeah,
- 28:51Speaker 1: you're telling a story that's not true. And then when
- 28:53Speaker 1: you hear a story from somebody and then you take
- 28:55Speaker 1: that story and tell you're a part of it and
- 28:57Speaker 1: put in your pieces of details. Right now, that's how
- 29:01Speaker 1: this story changes and grows and gets out of control
- 29:04Speaker 1: and then turns south real fast. The more people that
- 29:09Speaker 1: tell this, tell the gossip, and it gets so far
- 29:14Speaker 1: from the truth, and then we're so convoluted in our
- 29:17Speaker 1: perspective about that person that that's you know, that's very
- 29:23Speaker 1: damaging to everybody involved, even as somebody who's doing the gossiping.
- 29:27Speaker 1: That's damaging to me and how people could see me.
- 29:30Speaker 1: So it's not my story to tell.
- 29:34Speaker 2: No, not my story to tell. I hear you, I
- 29:39Speaker 2: hear you. Because then we're only adding our own perspectives
- 29:41Speaker 2: on things or how we heard it or how we
- 29:43Speaker 2: felt it or whatever, and it's like it's and then
- 29:46Speaker 2: and then when you add in the fact that we're
- 29:49Speaker 2: all master creators, is that what you were where you
- 29:51Speaker 2: going to create from? No probably not. It's not real,
- 30:00Speaker 2: be real, one hundred ten percent. It's not where you're
- 30:01Speaker 2: want to create from.
- 30:02Speaker 3: It's just it's yeah.
- 30:06Speaker 1: So really, I would say for for anybody listening is
- 30:12Speaker 1: maybe sit with your perspectives. Right.
- 30:17Speaker 4: So here's here's a good example. I use this in
- 30:21Speaker 4: like classes and group coaching.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Is when you have you have a mother and a
- 30:28Speaker 1: father and they have a child, that first child's experience
- 30:34Speaker 1: with those two adults is going to be one hundred
- 30:38Speaker 1: times different than the next child. So the second child
- 30:44Speaker 1: now has not only the mother and the father, but
- 30:46Speaker 1: they also have the sibling, the older sibling, So that
- 30:50Speaker 1: second child has a completely different experience with these people.
- 30:56Speaker 1: And then if there's a third child, now that third
- 31:00Speaker 1: child has the parents and the two adults or two
- 31:03Speaker 1: older siblings and then them. And typically what happens, not always,
- 31:08Speaker 1: is the more children you have, the less attention each
- 31:12Speaker 1: child gets because now the family has grown, the parents
- 31:16Speaker 1: are really focused on providing for the family. Right, there's more,
- 31:21Speaker 1: there's different dynamics with each as a family grows. Then
- 31:29Speaker 1: I witnessed it myself in my own family that then
- 31:34Speaker 1: the children, the three children or six children, doesn't matter
- 31:38Speaker 1: how many children all grow up into adulthood and all
- 31:43Speaker 1: have different beliefs, habits, perspectives, like all the things are different.
- 31:51Speaker 1: And then everybody's like, but they all grew up in
- 31:55Speaker 1: the same house. They all were raised the same.
- 31:59Speaker 4: No they weren't.
- 32:01Speaker 1: That's your perspective that they were raised quote unquote the same. Yes,
- 32:05Speaker 1: they grew up in the house. No, they did not
- 32:08Speaker 1: grow up the same. And I taught that to a lady.
- 32:15Speaker 1: She attended one of my retreats, and I was teaching
- 32:20Speaker 1: about that, about perspective and how we all have different
- 32:24Speaker 1: perspectives even in being raised under the same roof. Because
- 32:29Speaker 1: she was struggling with her siblings. They thought they didn't
- 32:33Speaker 1: think the same. They didn't, They saw things differently. They
- 32:37Speaker 1: always fight, like they didn't have a good relationship. And
- 32:39Speaker 1: when I went through this process, it like this ginormous
- 32:44Speaker 1: light bulb just went off and she's like, oh my gosh.
- 32:49Speaker 1: From that point, her relationships with her siblings start mending,
- 32:55Speaker 1: because she added she gained a different perspective of how
- 32:59Speaker 1: they were seen things versus how she was seeing things.
- 33:04Speaker 1: And a lot of times the older sibling ends up
- 33:08Speaker 1: being the parent to the other siblings.
- 33:10Speaker 4: So the other siblings.
- 33:11Speaker 1: The younger ones don't really know the parents because the
- 33:14Speaker 1: older sibling steps in to take care of the kids
- 33:16Speaker 1: while the parents are busy, you know, in survival mode,
- 33:20Speaker 1: trying to provide for the family. So then they're getting
- 33:25Speaker 1: they're getting their programming, so to speak, from the older sibling,
- 33:30Speaker 1: where the older sibling got her programming from the parents
- 33:34Speaker 1: and has put it through her own filtering system and
- 33:37Speaker 1: now has put her ideas, thoughts, beliefs, habits onto the
- 33:43Speaker 1: younger kids. So as yeah, they're all under the same roof,
- 33:46Speaker 1: but they're all having a different experience.
- 33:52Speaker 2: And that's why it's so important for us to be
- 33:54Speaker 2: open to shifting, not being so deadfast or standing so
- 34:02Speaker 2: firm in our beliefs that we don't actually are missing
- 34:04Speaker 2: out on truth honestly, and I shouldn't say truth, but
- 34:09Speaker 2: you're missing.
- 34:09Speaker 3: On perspectives because truth is that's.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Flexible as far as I'm concerned in a lot of ways,
- 34:15Speaker 2: because it's from so many different perspectives.
- 34:17Speaker 3: But being open to see and I never thought about
- 34:19Speaker 3: it that way either, But you're one hundred percent right.
- 34:21Speaker 3: We don't.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Everything shifts, everything changes, And my god, that'd be like
- 34:27Speaker 2: me saying that I raised my kids exactly the same.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't raise.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Them exactly the same because I changed. I'm a person
- 34:35Speaker 2: that changed Otherwise. I mean, even if we even if
- 34:38Speaker 2: we're a curmudgeon and we're unhappy and miserable, we're there's
- 34:42Speaker 2: still going to be bits of us that are going
- 34:43Speaker 2: to change for each individual that comes into our experience.
- 34:48Speaker 2: So it's just being open to the perspectives.
- 34:50Speaker 3: It's just being flexible.
- 34:53Speaker 2: It's just being not so steadfast in these ideas that
- 34:57Speaker 2: you're right, because being right it doesn't always make sense
- 35:02Speaker 2: in the perspective. Sure I could have been and said
- 35:04Speaker 2: that I was right about that perspective, I was right,
- 35:07Speaker 2: but it's not.
- 35:08Speaker 3: It doesn't feel good.
- 35:10Speaker 2: So if it doesn't feel good, then it's an opportunity
- 35:11Speaker 2: for me to look at it and kind of explored
- 35:13Speaker 2: a little bit more and then realize, Man, I could
- 35:16Speaker 2: feel so much more free by letting this stuff go.
- 35:18Speaker 3: And I did, and I do. Yeah, my dad didn't
- 35:24Speaker 3: do anything wrong. He was a child. He was a child.
- 35:28Speaker 3: He didn't.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Yeah, for what I can feel from him, he totally
- 35:32Speaker 2: loved my mom.
- 35:33Speaker 3: I don't know what their relationship was like.
- 35:35Speaker 2: I don't know but I can tell you from my
- 35:38Speaker 2: perspective as being an adult and what I could feel
- 35:42Speaker 2: from him, he completely loved her, was in love with her,
- 35:46Speaker 2: and was hurt by her. From his perspective. He hasn't
- 35:50Speaker 2: said those words, but that's what I could feel.
- 35:53Speaker 1: And he did what he thought was best in that
- 35:55Speaker 1: moment based on his information, knowledge and wisdom at that time.
- 36:00Speaker 1: So thinking about at that time, it's his age, it's
- 36:05Speaker 1: his upbringing, it's the the.
- 36:07Speaker 4: Era, the generation.
- 36:10Speaker 1: It's like there's so many factors to.
- 36:13Speaker 4: An experience just one experience.
- 36:18Speaker 1: So yeah, for him, he did what he thought was
- 36:22Speaker 1: appropriate at that time. Now, if they became older, they're
- 36:30Speaker 1: going to shift and change, and if your mom was
- 36:32Speaker 1: still present in the physical body and they got together,
- 36:36Speaker 1: they would be it would be like a brand new
- 36:37Speaker 1: relationship because they're both different. And that happens a lot.
- 36:42Speaker 1: High school sweethearts get together, then they're apart for several years,
- 36:46Speaker 1: and then later in life forties, fifties, sixties, even seventies,
- 36:50Speaker 1: they come back together and they're like it's like magic
- 36:55Speaker 1: because they have to go through.
- 36:56Speaker 4: Their own life experiences.
- 37:01Speaker 1: You know.
- 37:02Speaker 4: I had a couple people.
- 37:03Speaker 1: Uh in high school who were just amazing, But I
- 37:10Speaker 1: was so broken and hurt and going through all these
- 37:13Speaker 1: things that.
- 37:13Speaker 4: The relationship would never have worked.
- 37:18Speaker 1: So it just even if we would have gotten married,
- 37:25Speaker 1: it would never have worked because I had too much
- 37:30Speaker 1: going on within myself that it would have hindered the relationship.
- 37:35Speaker 4: And I know that now.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Back then I was crushed. Today I'm grateful. So we're
- 37:45Speaker 1: all doing We're all doing what we think is best
- 37:48Speaker 1: in the moment based on our perspective, based on the
- 37:52Speaker 1: way we are seeing through our own eyes, our own filter.
- 37:56Speaker 1: And you can have compassion for yourself.
- 37:58Speaker 4: Not only are but you have compassion.
- 38:00Speaker 1: For yourself too, because you have endured so much. I've
- 38:05Speaker 1: endured so much, and I've learned and I've grown and
- 38:08Speaker 1: I've changed, and I'm not the same person today as
- 38:12Speaker 1: I was five years ago, two years ago, twenty years ago. Right,
- 38:16Speaker 1: So we're depending on staying a victim to your circumstances
- 38:20Speaker 1: and the perspectives that you developed over the years of people.
- 38:27Speaker 1: When those shift and change, you see through the eyes
- 38:30Speaker 1: of compassion and forgiveness and love and empathy that you
- 38:37Speaker 1: just it changes your whole system and you operate differently,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and then you keep moving through life with that new system,
- 38:46Speaker 1: just a different world.
- 38:52Speaker 3: There's no room for judgment, no room for judgment.
- 38:55Speaker 1: And then and then we no longer exist in the
- 38:58Speaker 1: physical body.
- 39:00Speaker 4: How do you want to live?
- 39:00Speaker 1: Like? It really comes down to how do you want
- 39:02Speaker 1: to live? How do you want to live?
- 39:04Speaker 4: These lives?
- 39:04Speaker 1: This life? Wow, I think that was pretty good conversation
- 39:13Speaker 1: and pretty deep actually, when if you really want to
- 39:20Speaker 1: dig into it deeper, it takes some time to sit
- 39:25Speaker 1: with it, to maybe write journal about it, write it out,
- 39:29Speaker 1: get conventional therapy, get a coach, get a mentor there's
- 39:35Speaker 1: something that's going to help you help maybe shift your
- 39:40Speaker 1: perspective or change your programming, or help you change.
- 39:43Speaker 4: Your belief system.
- 39:45Speaker 1: You know, something that's going to help you ease the turmoil,
- 39:51Speaker 1: the traumas and dramas that you've been storing in your body.
- 39:54Speaker 1: So Bev and I come together because we obviously from
- 39:58Speaker 1: the beginning of this conversation, we are have having similar
- 40:00Speaker 1: experiences on a regular basis, and we come together. We
- 40:04Speaker 1: have these conversations not to compare, but to share. We
- 40:08Speaker 1: share because we know other people in the world are
- 40:10Speaker 1: having these same, not same similar experiences and don't know
- 40:15Speaker 1: what to do with it. So when we have these conversations,
- 40:19Speaker 1: it might help somebody else, So be resourceful.
- 40:22Speaker 4: Share the video, share the.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Link, share the content, have the conversations, and help somebody
- 40:29Speaker 1: else with move through whatever it is that there might
- 40:33Speaker 1: be that they are trying to move through and heal
- 40:37Speaker 1: or at least shift, so there's some ease within their system,
- 40:43Speaker 1: within their thinking process, within their daily life that they
- 40:48Speaker 1: feel that sense of relief that it's okay and there
- 40:54Speaker 1: is tools and resources to help them move through it.
- 40:59Speaker 1: So you can find us on many platforms. We're on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Spreaker, Spotify, podcast, attic.
- 41:05Speaker 4: And YouTube. Just share it.
- 41:08Speaker 1: You don't even have to don't even talk about it.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Just say you know what, I think this might help you,
- 41:12Speaker 1: and just share the link. Leave comments, questions, leave topics
- 41:16Speaker 1: you might want to have us talk about. We don't
- 41:20Speaker 1: plan our conversations. They're very organic. We just turn the
- 41:23Speaker 1: camera on and start talking and it goes where it goes.
- 41:27Speaker 1: So any find a words from you beb Before I
- 41:30Speaker 1: wrap this up.
- 41:32Speaker 3: I would say take the time to breathe.
- 41:34Speaker 2: If you're noticing that you're constantly always busy, keeping yourself busy,
- 41:39Speaker 2: finding because we can always find things to do. It's
- 41:42Speaker 2: a distraction from these opportunities that you can have within
- 41:45Speaker 2: yourself to free yourself from the stuff you're running from
- 41:48Speaker 2: by keeping yourself busy.
- 41:50Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Awesome.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with us, Teach time with Amy
- 41:54Speaker 1: and Bev. We'll see you next time.