Latest / Archons Corner / Ekwidon is So Busted Except for one HUGE Flaw
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- 0:00I gives it terrible. So for those of you listening to this on the
- 0:24audio podcast, this is popless KeyForge. I believe, I believe the only
- 0:30two people wearing shorts right now are is the and Southerly. And this is
- 0:34what you miss when you don't join us live on Thursday nights. Oh enz,
- 0:39just slas. What's going on? Everybody? I am the one the
- 0:47other They don't have a video. You're the geekiest one of us here,
- 0:52and you don't have a webcam. No, no, I'm going to hack
- 0:56your webcam. Internet. You gotta know how to know what I do and
- 1:02things and stuff. Oh boy, no phone, use Pakistan and then through
- 1:08Lithuania and then through Canada. Yeah, and then to to the server and
- 1:15then signing in with my email that's right, yeah, exactly with your Facebook
- 1:19account. Anyways, a story. I know he's trying. I see it.
- 1:25I'm like, no, no, I'm really curious. What's gonna happen?
- 1:27Is he going to join us? It's gonna be like some weird picture.
- 1:32I don't know if this works all right? Maybe the third times the
- 1:38show. I'm lookie, we're focused, We're a laser focused tonight. But
- 1:41what's going on everybody. I am the one, the only, the w
- 1:44oh okay I e topless and cold joining us tonight. We got the normal
- 1:49cast of misfits. We got the Ewakis of eks Walk Jr. Hell key
- 1:55Forge Community glad to be here, super excited. We have the returning champion
- 2:00big Z. He's a buffero right now. We got our resident PhD doctor
- 2:08Sheet I'm here, and the choke show dras Corps. Oh, guys,
- 2:16how's it going? And that elf from the south southerly Elf? Oh pretty
- 2:23pretty warm? Down here? Yeah, down here? Where where are you
- 2:25again? I forget where you? Well? Else from the south in the
- 2:30south south, so help your future. Yourself has their titular segment segment.
- 2:38We have our tituler segment didn't really go but anyways, dras Corps has a
- 2:47segments that he wants to introduce today. Dras Corps take it away, all
- 2:54right. Well, so I mentioned to you guys that uh I had some
- 3:00some uh something I wanted to chat with you guys about. I need your
- 3:04your input, your feedback, uh and like what should I do? And
- 3:09this is this is about life and about key Forge, and uh I didn't
- 3:15tell these guys what what I was gonna bring up when beforehand, But here's
- 3:22here's here's what happened. Okay, so you guys can imagine, you know,
- 3:27we're hanging out the family right the wife and I are chatting and uh
- 3:31you know, this is probably happened to you guys. She's like, hey,
- 3:36like, do you know when that Keyforde stuff is happening this summer?
- 3:38Like so we can plan our suber vacation. And I'm like, uh so,
- 3:46of course the answer is no, I don't know. Why don't you
- 3:50know draft because because uh GG hasn't told us. Okay, so you know
- 3:59GZ now is it? Yep? So she says, she says, I
- 4:03you know whatever. Okay, so she says up that and then the subject
- 4:08changes. All right, so all right, I bought myself a few days
- 4:12right, Okay, maybe or bought myself I don't know a week taps.
- 4:17So a few days later, this is what happens. She's like, hey,
- 4:23you know what I've been thinking, maybe you should go to that Minnesota
- 4:31vault and then you should fly to where we're staying on Lake Champlain for for
- 4:44the vault. I'll pick you up from I'll pick you up from the airport
- 4:48in in Montreal because we're in the Canadian side of Lake Champlain and like and
- 4:57then so so I'm like yes, so like like isn't it like if I'm
- 5:06like, yeah, I'm doing it, and I book flight to Minneapolis and
- 5:11I go to the vault and then Sunday instead of waking up with my family,
- 5:15getting in the car and driving seven or eight hours north, instead do
- 5:21key Ford stuff on Sunday, you know, win the whole event of course,
- 5:25of course, uh and uh. And then why internationally you've done it
- 5:34once? Why not again? I mean landed Ontreal. My wife that like
- 5:41I guess, leaves the kids at the hotel, drives an hour north to
- 5:46Moontreal, picks me up at the airport, and it drives me back to
- 5:50the hotel. Like yeah, let's see like some kind of D and D
- 5:59equivalent, like coming up to a bunch of people with a broken down cart
- 6:02on the side of the road like this is the draft, yeah, right,
- 6:08like to this one and no more, I say, yeah, I'm
- 6:17doing this, right does that mean like Okay, suddenly all the summer stuff
- 6:21gets planned locked in and then it's like, oh, yeah, you're doing
- 6:25this, and then we of course we find out the dates and everything's cover.
- 6:29Once she gives you this, then she doesn't have to feel guilty about
- 6:31scheduling over everything else. Right, all right, so what do I do?
- 6:38Guys? Okay, so that was you in Minnesota. I say,
- 6:47yeah, what do you say, Wookie? I want your first as you
- 6:50know, your great advice from the Wookie. Well, see, I'm torn,
- 6:57right, I'm torn between z's what do we call it? I like
- 7:01these like a prop urbage, Yeah, fanatas like whatever, whatever, fanaticism,
- 7:06irrational national fanatics, fanaticism. But like, so, here's the deal.
- 7:13Right. It is now February eighth, as of the time of recording
- 7:16this, we don't really know if there are going to be any other VAUL
- 7:24tours. Besides, like, gen CON's still Nationals. I guess, so
- 7:29if you're planning I'm going to guen Con, I guess they still have an
- 7:30opportunity there. But but has that been announced Bookie? Well they did,
- 7:36I think so. I announced it at KFC that gen Con will be Nationals,
- 7:42but they had They also the decks would cost like that. I remember
- 7:47them saying, I don't think it was on their game found it was printed
- 7:51on the game found at the time, so they so the lead cost twelve
- 7:58Yeah, I just want to change tonight at the store for some sealed and
- 8:01it was twelve ninety nine. Yeah. I do want to say that I
- 8:05do think that nationals will happen at gen Con, But if you actually look
- 8:09at the what has been listed, I did not see gen Con on there
- 8:15listed awhere? Oh yeah yeah, research team says otherwise in theals. Yeah
- 8:22yeah, KeyForge nationals August through September. US nationals at gen Con twenty twenty
- 8:28four. Others to be announced. Yep, so there, Domino, just
- 8:31yep. I thought that was so yeah. So okay, I'm going I'm
- 8:39gonna go ahead, Drazz, I will be on a different side. I
- 8:41know your lovely wife. She is absolutely amazing. I think that she knows
- 8:46your passion and love for the game, from recording every week or as often
- 8:50as weekend, to being interested in being able to travel in the competitive scene.
- 8:58I know how you felt about last year and that it didn't necessarily show
- 9:01up as successful as you wanted, and I don't I know that with many
- 9:07other significant others it could be seen as a trap. But I think that
- 9:11your girls are old enough, and she is basically saying this is really important
- 9:16to you, and she is giving you an out. So that's how I
- 9:20see it. Either can you in Canada? Hell, you would do this.
- 9:28Actually, that is where it's different. I do believe that if this
- 9:31was Tara in the same spot, that if she gave me again, if
- 9:37she went ahead and said what I heard from dress, then yes, I
- 9:41would feel comfortable enough to be able to go and to fly out. The
- 9:45girls are older, I can tell you. That's that is what is there.
- 9:52You're not going to miss the main event. You're still going to be
- 9:54with the family afterwards. Is that correct? Yeah, so it's there.
- 9:58It's for the eclipse, right. The clips happens on Monday. Now I
- 10:03would miss like the family drive up, and I would miss like whatever they
- 10:05do when they get there on Sunday. But you would be there for the
- 10:09family drive back, which is when everyone's kind of like done and needing your
- 10:13help. I don't know. I think this is a really interesting predicament.
- 10:20But I think that I know your lovely wife, and from the few times
- 10:24that I've met her and been around her, she seems extremely amazing. And
- 10:28yes, I could see this as being hey, go for it. So
- 10:35I want to hear Southerly's opinion because you've been married for twenty years, right
- 10:39suddenly, so you've got lots of experience much in this category. Yees,
- 10:43So what's your advice? Has been married to the game? There you go,
- 10:48you one, I'm I'm married to the money. Actually, now,
- 10:58well, I would say, right like, if she values the convenience of
- 11:01having this all planned and figured out, that's what you're gonna say that convenes
- 11:07are being buried. For a second, there, you value being mauried.
- 11:11Go ahead, go ahead? Oh no, having plans figured out early and
- 11:15in advance, all right? Yeah, yeah, then over you know a
- 11:20few hours and part of a day of your time with the vacation, then
- 11:24yeah, go for it. I will also add in, I don't think
- 11:30that this is limited to just this fault to her, I think, again,
- 11:35no background at all, But I can see another East coast vault.
- 11:39I think that Philly is a great location, and I think something in your
- 11:43neck of the woods you'd be easily able to go. But I know that
- 11:46you traveled a bit last year, and so I think those two would be
- 11:52easy enough to be able to attend and then you'd have to see what other
- 11:54options come up. But again it's very late to be able to see the
- 12:00plan. And it's not just you Draz, I mean there's been a lot
- 12:03of people that have been talking to that are just like, I don't know
- 12:07plans, I don't know what we can do. I don't know what's even
- 12:09available. What does a vault mean? Like? What of what is there
- 12:15to do there? What's there to look forward to? There's a lot of
- 12:18questions right now that frankly need to be answered or provided like yesterday or a
- 12:24month ago, in order to really keep us going forward with the Vault season.
- 12:31So I don't know, it's scary. It's also scary some of the
- 12:33other theory and conjecture that I hear. Even this morning, I think I
- 12:39woke up, did you guys see and the or to key Forge, like
- 12:43they're like, hey, there's a potential that we could have a vault here
- 12:46in Sweden and really yeah that was announced this morning, but they're not in
- 12:50anything. But they were just basically saying, is there enough interest? We
- 12:56need to be able to make sure that there's at least sixty four people.
- 13:00Wait, so how do you think that game do you like some random person
- 13:05from well, well we know, let's not say like someone from DG like
- 13:11message one of their n KFL like players, like, hey, guys,
- 13:15does anyone want to play Keford over there? We got to schedule something soon.
- 13:20But what does that even look like? How does that correspondence come out
- 13:24to be? Well, you're you're thinking about that. I'm thinking how scary
- 13:28that is that you're reaching out and we're trying to gather Will there be enough
- 13:31interest at this point in February? That's that's absolutely scary to me. But
- 13:37I like the idea. Hey, the US ones. There's a big question
- 13:45mark alongside a lot of want to know how that correspondence like started, like
- 13:52who is the person that got that message and how because we know it wasn't
- 13:56a store. So I'm going to make this very simple next year, KFC.
- 14:03So when we're looking in twenty twenty four for the fall, you should
- 14:07announce that your first vault is going to once again be in Minnesota, and
- 14:11it's going to be in April. Here you go, and then from November
- 14:15and December you should be working on solidifying the rest of those vaults. So
- 14:20that's getting a vault season, and I'm well aware of that, but I
- 14:24mean that that's again I have no background, I have no understanding there.
- 14:28But that's how I would go ahead and handle it is by jan January first
- 14:33is when you really want to be getting out information. Here's your vaults,
- 14:35here's your locations. You can at least establish the first one for your own
- 14:39home that you can. You're coming right back this we save this day done
- 14:43check? So all right? So PhD in psychiatry doctor sheep adulshit, sorry
- 14:54if we didn't make it, well, it's like the same thing. So
- 14:58thank you for your donation. Got cheap? Did we pick what where our
- 15:03donations are going this year for twenty twenty four? Yeah, they always go
- 15:07to autism speakers. Hey, I'm good with this, Thank you very much.
- 15:13GG Game Design. I'm gonna say whichever employee leaves first, can't you
- 15:20can't say that zoo and I got like liquid here and then I cough and
- 15:24it could go everywhere. Oh anyways, any cheap? Thanks cheap? Uh?
- 15:39And what is a surprise chance for me? I think it costs too
- 15:43much to do what you're suggesting to make this vault worth it. And I'm
- 15:46usually one who's just all about wasting the money. But the interestingly, flying
- 15:52internationally sounds terrible. It's way cheaper to fly into Montreal. I already looked
- 16:00to fly to Philly, which is interesting. I'll save money by flying back
- 16:03to Montreal, Okay, can I also, it's what you do there you
- 16:08go see sheep, sheep got convinced there, Can I tell you sheep and
- 16:11wikie, what I just saw within the last two days is that there is
- 16:18Frontier going ahead and opening up new lines to Philly thirteen bucks right now?
- 16:25Oh my goodness, that's for the that is yes, that is for this
- 16:29the It is from Milwaukee, Milwaukee to Philly, straight flight, and it
- 16:33is super cheap right now. But we need to know, like, hey,
- 16:37what weekend are we going? What you just have to be the luggage
- 16:40compartment. Hey, if you guys come to Philly for thirteen dollars, I'll
- 16:42host you well and whatever you guys want. Yeah front Frontier front Yeah.
- 16:48Oh so I'm coming shirtless because I can't afford the extra shirt jars. Yeah
- 16:53so front Frontier. Frontier is a charge on everything, so you carry on
- 16:57all of your baggage and thing of that sort. You want you want to
- 17:00snack, you're going to be charged for it. But for that cost is
- 17:04like, Hey, we're starting out this new line. That's phenomenal. I'm
- 17:07like, okay, can we run a vault? Can we go ahead and
- 17:10see that? So good news? GGZ put a vault there quickly? And
- 17:14when would you like me to visit Drascar? Yeah? Wow, yeah,
- 17:18well let's let's look at the calendar. Well we'll make this happen. Yeah,
- 17:21look at when one of the cheap probably like Tuesdays these cheap flights,
- 17:23but yeah they're not Tuesdays is the cheap flights? All right? But we
- 17:30got we're eighteen dollars. So honestly, here's my I So I don't think
- 17:37it's a plan trap, but here is what I think. I'm worried that
- 17:41if I do this like that weekend, she'd be like what did I let
- 17:48him do this? This could be unhappy about it and then like annoyed that
- 17:56she just drive like seven or eight hours and it's got to drive another two
- 17:59hour around trip to pick my ass up from the airport. And then do
- 18:03your girls drive though dress that your oldest is right there, no, fifteen,
- 18:11my oldest. I recommend I wear a personal experience dress, like this
- 18:18wasn't actually twenty twenty three. I went to like Everything under the Sun in
- 18:21twenty twenty three, and this wasn't recently. My kid is much older in
- 18:23a much different place than twenty twenty three, but like earlier on, my
- 18:27kid was younger. It was the Vegas Fault, like the one that was
- 18:33not this year's but like triad, Yeah, the Vegas Triad. It was
- 18:37like, I don't know, like there was something going on that weekend.
- 18:41I went to the Vault instead, so I wasn't with whatever family event was
- 18:45going on. The event itself was like somewhat frustrating for me, and like
- 18:51part of that was because I knew I wasn't where I should be, and
- 18:55I kind of carried that with me through the whole event, Like I've been
- 18:57all of these events, and I actually remember that one a lot more for
- 19:03all those reasons than many of the other ones. And I had permission.
- 19:07I got permissioned in a very similar manner. I did not have to,
- 19:10like my it wasn't like I had to attend to this thing. It was
- 19:15like a birthday party or something like, not my kid's birthday party, but
- 19:17like you know, a family, yeah, birthday or whatever. Yeah,
- 19:22now you guys are talking about family. I can't hear that. And I
- 19:27still remember that. Well. I don't remember a lot of the vaults back
- 19:32in twenty nineteen, but I do remember that one. And part of it
- 19:34wasn't just because like like that was going on. I just think the whole
- 19:38experience was kind of like myth and I remember that that feeling whole weekend.
- 19:44Hey, that's the first one. I literally moved my flight up to come
- 19:48back early instead of like playing Sunday because I had like sucked out with well,
- 19:53I did my normal four to two, I got my plane move flight
- 19:57moved up to that night, and flew out that night. So for the
- 20:02uh, for the annoyance part of it, I recommend a bouquet of flowers
- 20:06and ice cream. That'll take a lot of things. I think you're wise
- 20:11beyond your years, sir, Thank you, thank you. Used to chat
- 20:15Bob for this, Probably he's just watched his dad make a lot of mistakes.
- 20:21I've been in a relationship for like five and a half years. Five
- 20:23and a half minutes. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
- 20:27no, your spouse well, and the fourth of your life. Yeah
- 20:32crazy, that's fine. I've literally been married more than half of my life.
- 20:37Oh mm hmm. Yeah, I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
- 20:42Mm hmm. All right, well, thank you, thank you for your
- 20:47wisdom everyone. Uh those in the who are listening, you can add your
- 20:52advice to the chat and uh well, uh we'll see where we go with
- 20:56us. I will we'll figure this out. So you have not decided it,
- 21:00because I'm I'm right at the edge of my seat here. You have
- 21:02not decided what you're doing now. Now here's the thing is you need to
- 21:08go because you got to get the head count up or there is not going
- 21:14to be any more vaults. Oh gosh. So in the Lake Champlain area,
- 21:18you as core are nothing right society, how many vaults we have in
- 21:23the future. We are already like that, Yes we are. I like
- 21:30Champlain area. You might be able to find Stewart's for ice cream. Oh
- 21:36nice, I will say. I will say that for anyone who is thinking
- 21:42about or has plans on coming out to uh baltour Rose, there is a
- 21:48gathering, a party that is already being planned. So something no, no,
- 21:55it's an extra We're looking for a good, good goods. I want
- 22:00to rave. No, the party bus was lost with sheep. I want
- 22:03glow sticks, I want I didn't know anything I delivered. I delivered all
- 22:10the party bus dollars we could ever need. And I had a party bus.
- 22:15Oh we did have a sweep room though. So now here's my deal
- 22:21a right, So here's where we live in this whole thing. Because I'm
- 22:23on the fence because of my sister. I'm waiting to find out because Iowa
- 22:29school junk happens differently than Wisconsin' school junk. But now that jazz cours Cow,
- 22:36I thought you were locked in. I'm not locked in yet because I'm
- 22:38I was waiting on my sister, my youngest sisters. I only get to
- 22:41see her like once or twice a year. I'm typically once a year.
- 22:45Yeah, but that's her sister, our whole bunch growing up. No,
- 22:48I didn't my my my youngest sister is the same age as my son,
- 22:55and she moved to Iowa probably about ten years ago. So long story short,
- 23:03I'm going to see my sister a whole bunch. But now the drafs
- 23:07car is coming. I don't know. You don't know. If dress this
- 23:11is true, I would now you count this to head count, it's gonna
- 23:22be on you. Oh man, I'm gonna the whole drasscour experience has got
- 23:29to carry the vault. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, Now,
- 23:33the vault is just the side thing you do around the Drascar experience. I
- 23:37mean really, it really is. So we should just starting Dacre experience.
- 23:41Vault will come if like, yeah, what maybe I should just say when
- 23:47how about this when I win the lottery big? You know, because that's
- 23:51the thing, Key Ford, you will what yeah? Right? So so
- 23:57and the wife would totally be on board this. Like I'll just buy like
- 24:02a big, a big ass van, like one of those ridiculous camper van,
- 24:07like yeah, the bus of the trucks right that you're like super annoyed
- 24:11or on the road with you. I'll buy one of those, right,
- 24:14I'll drive around honk in the horn and I'll just drive from vault to vault
- 24:18and like board game convention, and then I'll, like the wife and I'll
- 24:21do stuff like around the area and I'll host like parties there in the parking
- 24:25lot and uh we're like go to cool places and uh it'll be awesome.
- 24:33That's the plan. Well, well, in true AC fashion, we have
- 24:37blown a ton of time again today, guys, so time to get down
- 24:45to brass tacks, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all
- 24:48ages. It is time to dive into some grim reminders. This week we
- 24:56have the sticky ichy equadon. You didn't want to go ahead and do sheep
- 25:00spit, We'll do that after what you guys covered it you you already did
- 25:04my hole. Hold on, hold on, sheep, tell us the news.
- 25:10I'm sorry, sheep, Liz, tell us what's going on in the
- 25:14world of keyboard op remb reminders. Store pledges are delivering to stores something I
- 25:26don't I don't know. If news up? Oh you wanted news? Yeah?
- 25:32Nothing. If if you want to get pre release kits, your stores
- 25:38cannot order them through asmo Dat's website. You have to contact your rep and
- 25:45tell them you want them because they are not on the website. They are
- 25:48forty five dollars retail. They come with three decks and a random pin,
- 25:53which you should have seen from any of the from the one article that they
- 25:56put up after nobody knew what was going on and I complained a lot.
- 26:03But to order those you actually you can rep for the good of the community.
- 26:11I bitch a lot, but how do we do that? She so,
- 26:12like me as a player, have to go. You have to go
- 26:17to your store or owner and then get them to call a rep who may
- 26:22or may not know the game exists. Yes, you got it, God,
- 26:29you have you have got this figured out. To get a pre release
- 26:32kit that is, I mean it's forty five bucks for three decks, because
- 26:37I know there's a lot of people who still don't believe us prices did go
- 26:42up. Retail product a box to a store at least my store is now
- 26:48one hundred bucks a box, which turns into fifteen dollars US retail per deck.
- 26:53Like that is how much boxes from uh from retail is going to be.
- 27:00So the game found pledges, those went out at a cost that equates
- 27:07to the twelve ninety nine MSRP that was advertised in the game found. So
- 27:14if you store got game pound stuff, they paid for it at a price
- 27:17that equates to twelve ninety nine adack. But when they have to go to
- 27:22askmodet to replace them, they're going to be paid more. Yes, doesn't
- 27:30mean that the game found product that God MSRP isn't fourteen ninety nine. The
- 27:34MSRP is fourteen ninety nine for all decks. Actually, there is no single
- 27:41place that you can actually find the MSRP of key Forde advertised, except for
- 27:47on the game found, which isn't an official like there. Of course,
- 27:52there is nothing official. Right, We're all going to know the price and
- 27:56what Ghost Galaxy thinks it should cost when they put it on the game Center's
- 28:00website. Until then, nobody knows nothing because there's release and there's I believe
- 28:07reached. The release date is March first. Yeah, so March first,
- 28:11So we would expect games interrotab eliine item, whether he can actually buy anything
- 28:17from it or not. So all right, I mean games already prick guys.
- 28:26Sorry, game Center did didn't get a pledge? Yeah they got a
- 28:33retailer did a right, Yeah A did not. We did not know.
- 28:41Oh what did we get? A good friend of a C got one and
- 28:48determined they would sell more product by supporting Archons Corner than they would report content
- 29:00creator will sell product. Oh never mind, I'm not going to go how
- 29:07they want those decks because reach out to sheep to buy boxes of grim Reminders.
- 29:14I got some for sale and our store makes some money. Well,
- 29:18we're gonna figure out those are gonna get given away as special a fire.
- 29:23They're all hot, of course they are. I don't know anything about them.
- 29:30I will say that the store logos on the decks is really need.
- 29:34I think that was well done and give I look forward to being able to
- 29:40collect a couple of different comment about that. Good. He does want to
- 29:47store his story about it. Whatever, it's not what you expected it to
- 29:55be. It shouldn't have been white, like why okay in that manner,
- 30:02I hear what you're saying, Z. But I'm saying overall, it's a
- 30:04neat idea to put the logo on, and I appreciate that it's moving in
- 30:08the right direction. Can it have been cleaned up? Appreciate things? Would
- 30:12they stop fucking things up? All right? Like z Z if that is
- 30:19your line one, I know, I know it's a speare jar, but
- 30:23don't blank it up. That's a very very low line. But it's consistently
- 30:29cross. So I'm sorry, that's what I'm saying. Like I'm pretty patient,
- 30:33owl like, uh, it's just so consistently this way. They were
- 30:40like okay, fine, at least they got it on there like at this
- 30:44point, I think JR. Would be happy if the symbol was like,
- 30:47I don't know, in the middle of the picture. All right, we're
- 30:55good, all right, So now we're going to talk about some equ cards.
- 30:59Those actually exists, like Equadon cards. We are onto Equadon from grim
- 31:06Reminders. First up, we have you don't I never realize these we're in
- 31:10alphabetical order. First up, we have art Project pip i ember. Every
- 31:14time you play it action unforged opponents key. If you do purge art Project
- 31:19and your opponent draws ten cards. So do we want to do what we
- 31:23did last week to will play the guessing game of what we thought zer ranked
- 31:26it at. Sorry, it should be pretty darn high. Actually gonna s
- 31:33three. It's one to six for the it's one to it's one to six
- 31:38zeros or you don't know, zero to six. I'm sorry, zero to
- 31:41six. I suspect the Zeros they're out there. Good card. This is
- 31:49either a four or five. It like ten cards is a big trade off,
- 31:56but unforging opponent's key is a big deal. I So I think in
- 32:07so n sealed this is probably better because the value of the ten cards is
- 32:12not as strong as as ten cards in ARCon, but he's ready for Arcan
- 32:17So I'm gonna say four s. There is some good steal in this house.
- 32:23So yeah, but this doesn't give Amber. That's right, you know,
- 32:29Amber dead too. I want ahead and flash the number four. I
- 32:36think this could even be higher there because at turn again late in the game,
- 32:39the ability to be able to use this, I think four. I
- 32:44like it all right. This one actually has changed over time. It started
- 32:49out a five and has been regressed all the way back down to a three.
- 32:57Game like there're unforging a key right like then they're getting ten cards.
- 33:02I have found as far as like when we looked at some of the math
- 33:06behind giving them ten cards, the ten cards on average, based on them
- 33:10already starting with six cards in their hand, is more mathematical value than six
- 33:15Amber. So in a lot of the cases, it's really just a stall.
- 33:22And against a lot of meta decks, playing this card means you've just
- 33:27lost period because of combo. Like you literally cannot play this card against Pink
- 33:34Fraud or Jena or Jack or any GENK deck that's ever been printed. So
- 33:39that's for very real meta decks that you're gonna see forever. Those decks are
- 33:45never leaving in the meta. So if you're talking about a curely competitive card,
- 33:51I just named four decks you're gonna see probably still in the top eight
- 33:54going forward in the future that you can never play this card against. So
- 33:58it's completely dead. It's just a chain. You'll never use it all the
- 34:04time. Hell, yeah, it's probably great. But we're we're we're in
- 34:10the Arkan. Yes, so it's gone from a five to a three.
- 34:15I think it's only still at a three because there are some decks where,
- 34:20like I think most whoa you can afford to play this against that doesn't have
- 34:25the fuddled in it. But on the other side of that, a lot
- 34:29of the stuff you see as that. So like it's the three, it
- 34:34is all right moving into as their tooth. Hold hold on a second,
- 34:40did you guys do and I missed last week because I was sick. I
- 34:44apologize, but I actually like this that you know we're coming in, we're
- 34:47going ahead and looking the set after a couple of different plays, I know
- 34:51all of us have played. Correct, you guys talk about that? Yes,
- 34:54yes, that gives us. Did you do all of the revenants last
- 34:58week? Now are we gonna? But are we gonna at least throw in
- 35:02the They did for I objected, but they did talk about drummer not we
- 35:08talked about drummer or not. That was it. But I think we'll save
- 35:13the revenance for another time. We'll go they should can't do it as you
- 35:19should do Revived Zora because that is Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
- 35:22Yeah, I think we should do that one. Yeah, all right,
- 35:24So up next revived or that last? Well it's on the way at
- 35:29the top of the sheet. Am I gonna? We didn't last last?
- 35:32We didn't? Yeah, I know, but that was because it was at
- 35:35the bottom. But Revived Zora, Creature spect for power one armor play if
- 35:40your opponent has more forged keys than you, or current cost if you do
- 35:45heard Aura, if you are haunted archives Revives not great. Excuse me,
- 35:55I don't love cards. Where Like you have to be losing for them to
- 36:00be okay, we're good. It's good if you're losing, but like you
- 36:04have to be losing, right, But like, but the whole thing is
- 36:08like it reaps for amber and then it's going to go to your archives.
- 36:15So you're gonna mean, it's just play if you're going to get this three,
- 36:17well, but hold on, I mean you have to be behind at
- 36:21some point. Right, should never be your goal. It should never be
- 36:23your goal. But more times than not, you're going to find yourself behind
- 36:28it. What all I'm need to play better? I played DT, so
- 36:35what okay? This is? You find yourself behind? I think this is
- 36:40also good in uh and in a lot of combo orientated decks that are slower
- 36:46to set up than burst for a crapload of amber. I mean a freak
- 36:51a freak key, right, but it's free key only if you're behind,
- 36:55So it's not Yeah, it's that curd of cost. But it's a good
- 37:04it's a mid tier card. I say this is like a three. I
- 37:07was saying it was a three. That's that's where I had put it.
- 37:09Three three minus. I don't think that's a grade here. But okay,
- 37:15is that a number three minus negative three? No? No, I mean
- 37:20it's just when you're looking at it, I do think that it's gonna fall
- 37:23in the three, but it's on the lower price, is right our bid?
- 37:31I think it's it's not a great three. I had three. Yeah,
- 37:35three Now here's where that's why three minus I'm good. Yeah, he
- 37:42doesn't like cards in the scenario either. He might have put it as a
- 37:45two. I don't know. Let's say, uh, presently, I have
- 37:49it as four. Give me your thinking on this Z. It is a
- 37:54four to one, which could easily read for a long time. So that's
- 37:59just only the threshold to just be a three ish creature. It recurs itself
- 38:05in a set that has more pips than any other set, and it can
- 38:09be a key chat, which is the predominantly way you win games against really
- 38:15control the decks like key cheats is almost the only way I've ever seen decks
- 38:20beat stuff like jock right that have their own oppressive combos that control your key
- 38:28situation. Mhm, I get there. I definitely do have it out of
- 38:37four right now. I mean, you'll never win the game by playing this,
- 38:40right, That's true unless you're having a good time. Well yeah,
- 38:46but you always But that kind of like saying, like playing key charge before
- 38:52key three is bad. I mean, it's obviously not as good as winning
- 38:54you did, but it's also bad. We're going to use this to get
- 39:00closer and then tach on pulse to close out, but we'll get to that
- 39:02later. Danks straight, you're gonna go into a turn at zero and you're
- 39:07going to play this then for one, they're an active card charge for key
- 39:13two then you're gonna win to death and next time you Yeah, this can
- 39:17be in any house forget Yeah, not tied to any house, all right.
- 39:23As there to six power Merchant to get a Rookia uh. He is
- 39:30enhanced with two capture pips and a discard pip. After fight after re move
- 39:36each ember from a friend of creature to your pool. Give control of that
- 39:39creature to your opponent from knowing what I knowed. Brios Arcs a six,
- 39:51right, this kills Brios Arcs so bare minimum it's a three. I'm actually
- 39:59her. Here's the thing to read on this card is it's after fight after
- 40:05read are both non optional, and if you don't have amber, you're just
- 40:10giving a creature to your opponent. That is not something I read when I
- 40:15read that until you pointed that out, so it brings it down a little
- 40:21bit. But in the right decks where you capture a lot, this could
- 40:23be good. Your opponent a creature, the creature, give control of that
- 40:30creature. So you take the amber. But I'm saying if your creatures,
- 40:35if you have a board with no amber on it, you still give them
- 40:37a creature after reaping. Yeah, mm hmm, write down to it.
- 40:49You might have to give them this card. Mm hmmm. I think so.
- 41:00It's very so it's a rare. It is a good card for a
- 41:05rare spot. It's interesting, right, right, don't skip. It's enhancement
- 41:14like natively with it. You know. Two it is allowing you to capture.
- 41:21Remember so to capture and a disc a discard. I think I think
- 41:27the more important thing for this card is the to capture, because it's giving
- 41:31something capture. Put it at four right, effect, it might even be
- 41:38better than a four. I'm gonna stick it at a three. It's not
- 41:42better than the four, but uh it's sometimes in some dex it's a two.
- 41:46In some decks it could be a five all but it's still slow.
- 41:51No, I give it a three because it's slow. I give it three
- 41:58for this card I expected to get to capture the deck, one discard in
- 42:00the deck, which is f and one amber from it reaping itself. Regardless
- 42:06of any other effect, it is a four. You're getting a number to
- 42:09capture and efficiency all from one card in your deck no matter what, because
- 42:15the six power is pretty much going to reap unless they boardwipe and then that's
- 42:19kind of how we do that. As far as all that goes, you
- 42:21expect a six power to get to reap one time, and if it does
- 42:23happen to fire, its ability to move extra stuff to your pool, lottery
- 42:30gravy. Yeah, this is gravy. I'm taking old. Because also even
- 42:34if you are giving them equadon is only in two sets and you're giving it
- 42:38to them tap down, So like if they do have equadon, just kill
- 42:43something and then move it over hurt and tacked mm, which at that point
- 42:51it's still above four like it would you still be even be above before because
- 42:54that means you got to capture a discard and killed something. Yeah, and
- 42:59if you actually get to use it, the fact where you move amber that's
- 43:01a steel that's Christmas time. If that fires like that's that's like you got
- 43:07a six value out of a four card. Oh that's true, okay,
- 43:12okay, ambiitrash. It is an artifact from equadon. Your keys could plus
- 43:19one member during your draw cards step refill your hand to an additional one card
- 43:25is a reprint, Yes, it is a reprint, but I don't I
- 43:29don't know if do we want to go over the reprints just the new one.
- 43:30We never did this for Winds of Exchange, so ruh, no,
- 43:36Well we talked about I remember before the car reprints. That's we're not going
- 43:45through reprints. Also reprinted bullet drink card, next bonded auctioneer for power equadon
- 43:54creature after destroyed artifact. If you do it's controller games one scrap return artifact
- 44:00to its owner's hand. Where are all these? I don't get any of
- 44:04these? I always get freaking. This is not an uncommon Miley's artifact.
- 44:14Okay, four power and you get some r it's a weak auction off auction
- 44:20off, but it does have the scrap, which is okay. So he's
- 44:28gotta be a three or four. I mean, if you want, he's
- 44:34our but he's hard, is hard to come back, so full, I'm
- 44:38going with four, all right, Yeah, I'll go over like two and
- 44:45a half three, that's three anything. I did a great mood for brob
- 44:52Nar last week. I was like, everything's a five. It sounds like
- 44:58a three. I think I think out of the houses that is higher than
- 45:04equadon here. But I think it's interesting. Is it your force destroying artifact?
- 45:08If there's artifact that it's out, if you reap, you're gonna have
- 45:12to do it. It's another not a man. He's not a man.
- 45:16Well that's all right, then he can fight. Yeah, and this,
- 45:21But I would say the other thing is that there's a lot of I don't
- 45:23know, maybe it's just me and maybe it's just the decks we're playing.
- 45:27There's a lot of artifacts in this At least it feels like there's a lot
- 45:30of artifacts in this set. A lot of bad artifacts, but there's still
- 45:36a lot of them. Like, all right, give us your number Z.
- 45:43I had a look at three. Yeah, three, definitely three,
- 45:50fair enough? All right, Curse of to may it okay, curse the
- 45:55sponsananity artifact has trust. At the start of your draw card step discard your
- 46:04hand. We actually just talked about this card this tuesday. Yeah, we
- 46:07were just having a restruction at our locals with it. Yea opinion that this
- 46:13card is not that good. Yeah, And treachery is this card enters play
- 46:16under your opponent's control. If anyone doesn't know that it's so situational, right,
- 46:22because if your opponent's playing a combo deck, this is great. If
- 46:27your opponent is playing just a value deck, then I don't know that this
- 46:34does that much. And if they're playing a creature deck, it's awesome for
- 46:39them. Yea, that's true. Yeah, they right, because they're more
- 46:45likely to have more cards that match their board. Weak combo decks that have
- 46:52to fire their combo to win are not gonna like this card. No,
- 46:55right, that is for sure. But I think across it like this got
- 47:00played against me at Extra Crispy and it gave me the game because I just
- 47:06one house from then on. Mm hmm, I think I like this card.
- 47:17It's a great tool to have, right, Like you might discard it.
- 47:22You probably should discard it a bunch of the time, but like my
- 47:25tool. But like this, this was what she talked about. You cannot
- 47:31but like, well, okay, so here's the deal. I think Sheep
- 47:35and I had this argument. It wasn't really an argument, but we were
- 47:37talking about handcrafting. Sheep is saying that handcrafting really isn't a thing anymore.
- 47:43It's just go fast. I never said that. Well, handcrafting, but
- 47:50there's no way. Sheep said that hand crafting is definitely a thing what I
- 47:54was saying, and you have to handcraft when you're not playing board plus cards
- 47:59every turn. Then you gotta play board plus cards where you can building up
- 48:02to a bigger hand to get value for when they handle your board. So
- 48:06you're not getting good consistent value this in a lot of situations unless like this
- 48:13card. I think if you have this card and very good repeatable c this
- 48:16card is very very potent. But average you don't have the sea. And
- 48:22if I land a board and you can't keep me, I just get to
- 48:25play that board plus move cards, turn things, use my board again,
- 48:30play more cards, get rid of everything else you have to. You then
- 48:34have to answer the board with this card. Otherwise they always almost always get
- 48:37to go back to the house that's already on. I think your math is
- 48:42play off there. I have played it. I give this a four.
- 48:46I think it's a good tool that sometimes you discard. But the middle of
- 48:51the situations a middle of the road seven ordinal values. Okay, I'm going
- 49:01to also go four A four, but yeah, I have a remember,
- 49:08but I think it's because oh, go ahead, so you probably know the
- 49:12number anywhere. I was gonna say, I abstain, I need to play
- 49:16with it more. Actually four because of like synergies directly in the house that
- 49:23it's printed in. There are a lot of cards that give your opponent cards
- 49:30in this house, and this directly mitigates the bonus you're giving them from the
- 49:37cost that is inherently on other equedon cards. There are three commons that directly
- 49:43give them cards, actually four. I forgot close doors in the sett too,
- 49:47so there are four cards that already give them hand size, which then
- 49:52if they're constantly doing this like reduces the value because just the way the card
- 49:59cycles come out, that's true, giving them you could fire art project.
- 50:06If this curse is on them, you're giving them an increased hands as for
- 50:10that turn though, yeah yeah, but it's still going to mitigate the next
- 50:15turn because then you know just the way the game is played. Yeah,
- 50:20it helps a lot. All right, Well we will see who is right
- 50:25given time de escalate? Is this it's not a chase, it's new whoa
- 50:34and the set seemed to just meld together right now, definitely new. This
- 50:38is the new king of board wipe do escalate, destroy each creature your archives
- 50:45the top three cards of their deck. Well, so now that we knew
- 50:51it's the king of board, wipe six, get to be six. I
- 50:58don't know it's the king of them. Okay, I'm gonna gonna keep the
- 51:05keep it going and say three. No better, You're always to say three.
- 51:10You're always close if you say yeah. We we had talked about this
- 51:16card before a little bit, right, where potentially third three dirty archives is
- 51:23better than three chains on you. Oh yeah, right, Well, and
- 51:29there's scenarios in the game where they get nothing. Yeah, they can be
- 51:34at bottom of deck. You could also have your You can also force a
- 51:40flip legacy your legacy Maverick Desania. Yeah, yeah, based on that.
- 51:50Yeah, well, the biggest thing I think is you can force a flip.
- 51:53You can force a haunted player. This doesn't this doesn't. This doesn't
- 51:59force a flip. You could only force a flip undraw correct, so it
- 52:02will archive. But then with an empty deck they have to Now, yeah,
- 52:07you have to play very extraordinarily awkwardly to not flip. Me and Sidney
- 52:12came into this because she was trying so desperately not to flip her deck.
- 52:15I don't even remember what I played, but it ended up for you know,
- 52:19because it's like, well, you can play no cards and not flip,
- 52:23but the chances of you playing no cards are pretty slim. Yes,
- 52:29but this doesn't actually force the flip. So if they have some haunted effect
- 52:34their turn and they'll still be haunted. Sidney needs to become one with the
- 52:37tight Pips. The tight Pips, I do I have now become a fan
- 52:43of my tight Pips after this weekend. But let acquiries folks. Speaking of
- 52:52tight I'll give this card a five. Oh we never scored this card ze
- 53:00excellent, all right. So the fulk Rome it is another artifact hip a
- 53:05vember. Every time you play it, at the end of each player's turn,
- 53:07they may gain one ember. If they do, their opponent draws two
- 53:12cards. It's rare. I'm gonna put this one two only because in this
- 53:22set there's like a there's a lack of just like Amber control you can really
- 53:25throw out. Obviously, you do have stuff like generous offer in equedon that
- 53:31combos with it. This isn't Amber control. This is just gaining well right,
- 53:35right, But my issue with it is you're allowing your opponent to get
- 53:38to that sixth member when they need to. You know, sometimes you can
- 53:42just get stuck at five on a turn. And this this set doesn't necessarily
- 53:46have too many ways to gain a tempo. You know what you have like
- 53:50box spit or you have trawler, you have vallevectoplasm. It's generous offer.
- 53:54I mean, like I don't like it. Yeah, I mean the value
- 54:01of it would be fantastic, or it would be at least interesting, But
- 54:08at the end you gain one amber, then you give them two cards and
- 54:13they get the response now with a bigger hand, right, just not loving
- 54:16it, but you're giving your opponent the opportunity to do that to you as
- 54:22well. Yeah, but I already know I don't think this is a good
- 54:27trade. So yes, I'm playing this card and hoping you use it poorly.
- 54:31Or I mean, like if you know they have no amber control,
- 54:36Yeah, like there are times you can play it, but I I'm not
- 54:38liking this. Am I wrong? See? Am I wrong? You're right?
- 54:44With someone I was talking to two cards. We had this big conversation
- 54:49about how double sided effects and affect most of the table are usually bad,
- 54:53Like no one was the power of these things. So this one. The
- 55:00only place where I see this is when you force them to flip. This
- 55:05is a force them to flip there, which if you're playing offsets sometimes since
- 55:13you're the onset, obviously like this could be more valuable to them to do
- 55:16that to you, right, yeah, yeah, I don't. And again,
- 55:20because you have that option to do it to them, they have that
- 55:22option to do it to you. So this is this is one yeah,
- 55:30because you might have to discard it, which makes it sad, very sad.
- 55:36I do actually have it at a two at the moment because oddly Humble
- 55:39with Manifold and Corner of the market, so that is the only reason.
- 55:50Oh maybe it's not. I don't think it is does comboth Manifold though,
- 55:54Okay, that is one of my favorite parts Elena the or power Merchant human
- 56:01from equadon Treachery, after you for Jaki give control the most powerful friendly creature
- 56:07to your opponent, this is bad. Yeah, I mean I actually this
- 56:15was in h I played a deck with us tonight and it did not trigger
- 56:22once despite me getting it early game both times, and lets them get to
- 56:28key faster because actually this is treachery, but it doesn't have the versatile.
- 56:34I guess I was thinking all treacheries have versatile this one does not. So
- 56:37if they're not playing equedon, then you can just toss us over there who
- 56:42really cares? Yeah, but it's not it's not bad. But it's not
- 56:45like good like you're you're it's bad. It's generally a bad guard. I
- 56:52mean, you're you're like at least they don't have folkrum but like, like
- 56:57what it might just be that they're giving you this back. What does this
- 57:01do? I guess question and that it works on here that you forge a
- 57:06key and have to give them a better creature. I hate this card.
- 57:12I'm on it. I hate this card. Lena the discard, Elena the
- 57:15one ze. I mean I have a zero. She does she has a
- 57:24change in your dead I forgot zero her. I always forget it. We'll
- 57:29really do anything for you of the time. Like it's not good. Yeah,
- 57:36agreed, I like your zero rating. I totally forgot zero was an
- 57:39option. How did this get made? This is this is uh, it's
- 57:45just love this stupid card and they're like, oh the Elana and then it
- 57:49made them give me their I don't know something good that's big even most like
- 57:55normally, the most powerful ones are the ones you want, like they will
- 58:00have fight effects and then you won't be able to use them. It doesn't
- 58:02change their house like no, like dis card does nothing, Yes, it
- 58:09does nothing. Envoy of a Quat we can just we can just go with
- 58:16bad Envoy of ecuadoric. Yep. Again, the set seems to mesh.
- 58:23Yeah, a state sale, I know this one's new. Purge a non
- 58:31creature card from your discard pile if you two, if you do, gain
- 58:36two totally. I was playing this one and it made it harder to get
- 58:47haunted, is what I will say. But on the other hand, there
- 58:52are plenty of bad cards in this that that you're discarding through discard pips any
- 59:00ways, and then you can purge them, and that isn't bad for Amber.
- 59:04I mean, there's so much milling in this debt in this set that
- 59:08when you're reshuffling, you can get rid of the things that you don't want
- 59:13to see for the match and gain Amber in the process. And in theory
- 59:16you can also in furnace protect yourself. Yeah that's true too. Yep.
- 59:22That'samber game that is impacted by furnace. Yeah, so I would give it
- 59:29a four. Yeah, I'm in the three four land. It's fine.
- 59:34It's I don't want tons of them, but I don't hate them. It
- 59:37is a common two. I mean, what are you can too? I
- 59:40think it's a five. I also had one with a discard pip that definitely
- 59:45made the card better. Oh yeah, that's nice. I have this out
- 59:51of three mentioned the kind of reasons why with Dan Like it's it's great in
- 59:59certain kinds decks, but I feel the best house in set is Guy's story,
- 1:00:05and this is really bad for Guy's story. Doesn't want to see this?
- 1:00:09Why does it wants to be haunted? So just that taking one card
- 1:00:16out of your discard pile making it a little harder to get haunted, but
- 1:00:20ends up mattering a little bit more often than I would like it. I
- 1:00:22mean, it's a net zero because you play it and get rid of it
- 1:00:25card in the discard. No, it's a net negative one because if you
- 1:00:29played any other card, you didn't lose one in your discard. Yes,
- 1:00:35it slows down your arto charge is relevant for what I'm saying. Victor charge
- 1:00:42is uncommon, so it's gonna be in a lot of that weird story ecto
- 1:00:47charges common and I've opened probably I don't know at this point, what'll we
- 1:00:52open about half a dozen decks and sealed play get to find one. I've
- 1:00:58only opened six decks. I have a three actor not a one. Groping,
- 1:01:05no grouping, no no group okay, flea markets reprinted forbidden tome enhanced
- 1:01:13with a drop hip and to wait wait, I want to talk about the
- 1:01:15ecchdo charge note for a second though, because you're losing one from your discard
- 1:01:22pile, but you're gaining two ember. Yeah, so you would have lost
- 1:01:29you know, because that that would have been one less ever cost for actor
- 1:01:32charge, but you're gaining to ember instead and ecto charges in a different house
- 1:01:37of the sun. I have eight actor charge decks by the way, Oh
- 1:01:44my god, I mean I just have it. I just have it as
- 1:01:47three because it defects your haunted state ongoing. I could be convinced to possibly
- 1:01:53move this up to afore. But like we don't have in the Z scoring
- 1:02:01system the way we do the decks, we don't have a way to see
- 1:02:06currently that there's like a bunch of discards in a certain house, right like
- 1:02:09if if there are five discard pips inside Equodon, there's probably not a better
- 1:02:15card than You're a fucking deck than a stick sad, but it becomes gold
- 1:02:21standard of the cards you want to play because you just want to stay in
- 1:02:24the house and just play Equodon for the rest of the game, and they
- 1:02:30are gonna be fun, tons of fun decks like that. So all right,
- 1:02:34start to see more of that in the meta. It might go up
- 1:02:36forbid in tone another artifact I already went over to enhanced. Each Haunted player
- 1:02:44refills their hand to one additional card during their drag card stat and it's enhanced.
- 1:02:52Right, yeah, I already went through them. Right. This is
- 1:02:58a this This is a better version of Howling Pit mine. It's the howling
- 1:03:12the Howling Pits, Howling Mind is the magic Okay, So it's sort of
- 1:03:21better than that because it's time situational and in theory, your your grim Reminders
- 1:03:27deck is going to do a better job Stayed and Haunted maybe longer, and
- 1:03:30it has three pips, which makes it better. So it's all in all,
- 1:03:35probably better than that. I still am never a fan of a card
- 1:03:38that gives my opponent stuff, so still says in the it's probably three because
- 1:03:45it's got the triple pips on it. Yeah, I feel like there's with
- 1:03:54all the discarding pips in this set that also helps enhance it. So I
- 1:04:01I really didn't really love the Hewling Mind, but this one I like.
- 1:04:05I like quite a bit more. I still don't like it. Three Yeah,
- 1:04:15man, I think this is closer to a four. I really like
- 1:04:17my pips draw and two discard is really nice, and with the ability and
- 1:04:21house and in set to be able to stay haunted more, I think it's
- 1:04:27a little bit better than average shop. I might have it too high,
- 1:04:35but but if this was literally just draw, discard discard, it would be
- 1:04:40a three. Nothing else. I have it at a five because from my
- 1:04:45play experience, like you stay haunted way more than offset, it would be
- 1:04:51a four. I guess if it's just Grim Reminders versus Grim Reminders, because
- 1:04:56then that part's is a complete WAT. But if you're not playing against the
- 1:05:00Groom Reminders, yeah, I would expect to net two more cards per game
- 1:05:05than them, which is a significant advantage enough to move it to a five.
- 1:05:12Is whe which is where I have it. If the whole meta ends
- 1:05:15up being Grim Reminders versus Group Reminders, this definitely goes down before, but
- 1:05:18I expect to still see lots of woe, so just versus woe, especially
- 1:05:25since woe keeps most of their cards in front of them in a big line.
- 1:05:30I expect this. We call this the battle line, the whoa line.
- 1:05:39Yeah, but we haven't got to Mars yet. Mars has a perfect
- 1:05:43answer for a whoa battle line. Oh you got tid creatures, I've got
- 1:05:45a plan for you, but we will catch that up. We'll get that
- 1:05:48on Mars. Martune Reverser Pip November. Every time you play it, it
- 1:05:54is an upgrade. This creature's text box is considered blank except for traits.
- 1:06:01Why do I foresee problems with this card? Play? Destroy all other upgrades
- 1:06:08attached to this creature? It? What other herd right sorry card was?
- 1:06:17That was a discard back in the day, wasn't it that? That's the
- 1:06:23one that caused mainly memory issues, not like actual play issues. People just
- 1:06:33again weird issues with your Google right and other cards. If cards put cards
- 1:06:40under it, it gets a little goofy. Maybe I think this one's fine.
- 1:06:45I don't think this creates anyone now, I this is fine? Again?
- 1:06:48Yes, I think people will goof it up, and that does this
- 1:06:55blank text static text given by other creatures. Mm hmm yeah, like like
- 1:07:04like a loo a fact. No, it would not because he's talking about
- 1:07:11the physical in the text box. Yeah yeah, actually physically text box is
- 1:07:15considered blank. Got a different creature games, it would still get that upgrade
- 1:07:24effect after the fact. Yeah. Yeah, nothing, this card blanks the
- 1:07:31box. No, not not continually. It just blanks whatever is printed on
- 1:07:36the card itself, because if it did anything else, it wouldn't need the
- 1:07:42playability. Now, the playability destroys the upgrades, and then all upgrades do
- 1:07:51is say this creature gains, which is the same thing as other creatures like
- 1:07:57Ludo, Like it's the same wording. Yes, I under I understand what
- 1:08:02you're saying, but i'm if you put another ar upgrade on it, I
- 1:08:08don't think it triggers. Why if it literally says that the only textbox games,
- 1:08:18if it gains something afterward that's not in its text box. Yes,
- 1:08:24yes, that's how the game effects work. Things go in it's textbox.
- 1:08:28When it says this creature gains, that's how it's not. Because that's why
- 1:08:33Clone doesn't grab the stuff, and that's why phone doesn't say take their textbox.
- 1:08:40The other one, the stupid one that know, mimic Tel. That's
- 1:08:44why mimi Tel doesn't do that either, because originally we thought it did,
- 1:08:46and then they came back and clarified it's just the textbox. Therefore, you're
- 1:08:50not grabbing other effects from the upgrades or other creatures gaining it. It would
- 1:08:57keep them anyways, because the upgrades aren't there, so they would disappear as
- 1:09:00soon as if you're reading it the way you were interpreting, and Mi Michtel
- 1:09:03should grab the upgrades effects, which is no, because the upgrade effects are
- 1:09:08only there because of the upgrade. As soon as the upgrader goes, the
- 1:09:11creature no longer has the this gains effect. But you're making the opposite argument
- 1:09:15now, No, I'm not. I'm making the I'm saying there would be
- 1:09:25one card is saying this has and the other card here is saying it's blank.
- 1:09:30Right, so it's kind of the has or the ken versus the can't.
- 1:09:34But it isn't those words. I don't know. I'm not convinced it's
- 1:09:41not worth arguing about right now. I think I know what the judges are
- 1:09:47said, So I think that this card was put in here to counter brio
- 1:09:55thought swim. I think I think that's what they were thinking. What do
- 1:09:59we do to counter that? Yeah, put this in so occasionally it's three
- 1:10:05counters certain things. Most of the time I think it's a two. Actually
- 1:10:10he hates up because it's a two. Yeah, as an ember pip though,
- 1:10:15I think as a number doesn't matter. Two. I actually had this
- 1:10:18out of one. Somebody convinced me, mainly because of like mothers that he's
- 1:10:25probably like, there's some ship in this game that's super impressive that this does
- 1:10:28shut down. So it is a two, right, and you can't yet
- 1:10:33exum it, right, So yeah, I mean this gets rid of really
- 1:10:38strong reap effects. So it's as good as the card that said not quite
- 1:10:42as good, but in line with the cards that say this creature can't reap,
- 1:10:45this creature can't fight because it gets rid of their important effects. Yeah,
- 1:10:48the most important is that it gets rid of their status static effects like
- 1:10:53you don't have to kill the mother, you don't have to kill the dog,
- 1:10:56I don't have to kill the witch. Right you go, here's your
- 1:11:00three power, which is the eye. It's no. One nip, which
- 1:11:04queen will be a good hit. Oh yeah, which queen, Now,
- 1:11:08like that's that's the real thing. Leaders in general. Oh yeah, you
- 1:11:12have that hormol tune boom. Yeah. Uh. Freelancer is a reprint I
- 1:11:18believe is the Sapper reprint. I don't believe, so right, all right,
- 1:11:27so uh oh boy, we're just gonna call him Sapper three power three
- 1:11:33armor play slash after fight. Yeah you pronounced that. Take control of an
- 1:11:40enemy artifact, give your opponent control of Sapper scrap, destroy a friendly artifact
- 1:11:47if you do straight enemy artifact so many words. Artifact control is good and
- 1:11:58it's versatile, it's play scrap. So there's no other conditions that really need
- 1:12:01to be met other than having an artifact to destroy it. If I don't
- 1:12:04have an artifact to destroy, i'm kind of do you want to destroy your
- 1:12:11artifact? Like you yeah, like until you make it. Usually the reason
- 1:12:15why I need art that controls because your opponent has a key artifact, right,
- 1:12:18So like that's the but I have to have it full crumb, blow
- 1:12:23it up, and then tough again, which a nice one because it doesn't
- 1:12:30give versatile. So even when you give it to them, unless they're playing
- 1:12:33this house, it doesn't really matter, and you're giving them a creature.
- 1:12:39But if it's a one sided artifact, you can just take it. But
- 1:12:45you're giving them Did you just say something about its like being three three?
- 1:12:49No, yes, well you will never have this on your battle line.
- 1:12:53It's not if Like I hate the way they worded this because it says take
- 1:12:57control of any of the enemy artifact on playing Yeah, period, give it
- 1:13:00to them, so you never have it, yes, unless they then fight
- 1:13:06with it. This is basically a treachery card like but I was saying,
- 1:13:12doesn't have the versatile so but still it's still not a three to three for
- 1:13:16your battle line, and you're just you understand that. Yeah, you're never
- 1:13:20repeat with the guy. You could put this into play, Well, you
- 1:13:29can put it into play, but if there's no artifacts again, if your
- 1:13:32if your opponent has no artifacts. This is a mediocre artifact control card.
- 1:13:38Like it's it's okay because it does you can both steal or destroy maybe because
- 1:13:44you can only destroy if you have an artifact to destroy, so that's a
- 1:13:47little bit weaker. This just falls into the two three area. To me,
- 1:13:51there are not any artifacts that are destroy it's but it is Yeah,
- 1:14:00maybe a one. I don't know you. I disagree with you guys on
- 1:14:05this one. Okay, you're wrong. You can buy all my sap greg
- 1:14:15the sack. There you go. It was the three the course of our
- 1:14:18conversation just now too. When I rated this car to three, I did
- 1:14:26not realize it didn't say if you do like I thought. It was like
- 1:14:30take control of the any artifact, if you do, give it zap like
- 1:14:33this, this, this templatinge is real bad. Why does it Why does
- 1:14:39it not say if you do. I don't understand why we're not consistent for
- 1:14:44key for it helped me just forgot. This should have just had this,
- 1:14:50could have just had treachery too added to it, simply because it has our.
- 1:14:59That's the only reason you're giving it a two. Because it has our.
- 1:15:02There are almost you want to destroy it on your side of the battle
- 1:15:06line in this set, so like it's still destroyed, it's real destroy So
- 1:15:11it's going to be at least a two. That's something mm okay, And
- 1:15:15most of the time you hit that destroy off house because you hit this with
- 1:15:18a discard pip or something. There's a lot of this well. But yeah,
- 1:15:21but again you have to have a friendly artifact to destroy an artifact or
- 1:15:25theirs. Yeah, that's why it's a low. Maybe this is the use
- 1:15:29of folk group. I'm actually arguing for it to go down to a one.
- 1:15:34I don't think this is a two, but artifacts still matter a lot.
- 1:15:39That's that's an argument from the day. Gem Coat Vendor is a reprint.
- 1:15:43Generous offer is a reprint. Grizzly exchange. Weird story. The art
- 1:15:47on the card doesn't look that grizzly, but it doesn't at all, not
- 1:15:53very grizzly. It is an action. Maybe one of those guys is named
- 1:15:58Grizzly. Maybe yeah, Uncle Chris, Yeah, bet all right, So
- 1:16:08Vember, every time you play it, put the top five cards of your
- 1:16:11opponent's discard pile on the bottom of their deck. Discard the top five cards
- 1:16:15of your deck. I'm curious to seriously put a deep you. I've never
- 1:16:27really had it. The five and five has never really gotten me there.
- 1:16:31But it does have a pip of Vember. That's fine. Yeah, it's
- 1:16:36uh, it's whatever a pip of amber is worth. Is it worth the
- 1:16:41three? Or what's amber worth a two? If all it was was amber
- 1:16:46would be a one. Okay, I guess it's a two. That might
- 1:16:50be a two because it has some situational use. But there may also be
- 1:16:55a time when you gotta be like, I got a discard this because I
- 1:16:58can't give them the five cards back. Yeah, that's true, depending on
- 1:17:03what their cards are. I just just to me this one because it go
- 1:17:15either way. Sometimes you definitely don't want it in their discard pile, though
- 1:17:20you do have more effect of their discard pile during your turn. You don't
- 1:17:29want to creatures like you could have just played de escalate and then played this,
- 1:17:33right, Yeah, I get to I just I have never had this
- 1:17:39hit for anything of anything. I just it's it's a you have this card,
- 1:17:45but you don't have ecto charge. Yeah, you're correct, Yes,
- 1:17:50when you play, I was pulling an ecto charge in the seal. That's
- 1:17:57what I've been playing. This is what happens when you're key. Yeah have
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- 1:18:53You can get your ratings now. However, don't remember where I was
- 1:18:58going with this. My grim Reminders experience has not been great. You keep
- 1:19:02opening like eighty Z decks. Yeah, my my Z scores are like NY
- 1:19:10three eighty seven. I finally pulled a one twenty two this week and it's
- 1:19:15and it's you know what, it's fun, but it's still mid yep.
- 1:19:20Anyways, Grizzly two two fair enough? I can Brian League dark In.
- 1:19:30You get an amber, you put six cards in your discard pile. You're
- 1:19:32almost haunted right there. Yeah, you sure are. Unless I'm already haunted,
- 1:19:38then I don't really know if it matters. Uh for power philosopher from
- 1:19:43ecuadon after each player returns the top card of the discard pile to the hand.
- 1:19:49I did some ship with this one more. Yeah, like there's moments
- 1:19:54for this could be good. He's a average, he's above average power.
- 1:19:58You have control of what's going to the happier discard pile. I think the
- 1:20:01spells permanent record, which we'll go over here in a little bit, permanent
- 1:20:05record, shenanigans all over it if possible, probably dies. But I'm going
- 1:20:14to go four. That feels too high, Like, I don't think it
- 1:20:20triggers that often, but when it does trigger, it can be good.
- 1:20:25It's situational. I think it is a four. Yeah, I think it's
- 1:20:28a three. It's a four. Remember well, I think to useful effect
- 1:20:35like ones, and like they are also getting the top card, so like
- 1:20:42sometimes it's not I mean, you have more control there. But yeah,
- 1:20:46I don't think it's any better than a three, which because has generally like
- 1:20:56a few high impact actions that are great to recur. And there's some funky
- 1:21:02lockout potential that this can enable. Yeah, I don't know about that lockout,
- 1:21:10but any lockout table flip oh, I'm forgetting the card name off the
- 1:21:17top of my head. I'm convenience. I'm rereading right now. Okay,
- 1:21:25anyways, where you got it? Z? I only have a two.
- 1:21:28I have played with this I it doesn't fire for me, and then no
- 1:21:33matter what you are, I mean, I have been fine with giving them
- 1:21:36the card back the one time I got it to fire, because again I
- 1:21:41just killed something that sucked. I don't know. It falls to the flour
- 1:21:45for me. I mean edited two for me, so is more power than
- 1:21:50power? Yeah, eyes really fast. The thing is we've been played a
- 1:21:57lot of versus grim reminders, and there's a dot of C like a ton
- 1:22:00so like a living But I know he would survive against other sets more.
- 1:22:09I I probably could justify moving into three. I mean, I could just
- 1:22:13see a world where I permanent record steal too. Lind. You know you
- 1:22:18can do your fighty stuff if you want, then, Lind Dark and get
- 1:22:21my permanent record back, exhaust something else to steal another two. And you
- 1:22:26sure have a lot of creatures in play. What do you mean? Yeah,
- 1:22:30I have three creatures in play in a creature heavy meta. Oh no,
- 1:22:34uh yeah, they're all getting debted. All right, Let's go on
- 1:22:39to the next one or zero PIP card on a zero scorecard ox batality,
- 1:22:45fatality, Oh my goodness, oakspatality. Yeah, cards are folks, gotta
- 1:22:51be a one because that's real bad. Choose an enemy creature and a friendly
- 1:22:56creature until the end of turn. They flip flop a power, right,
- 1:22:59yeah, they flip up power. Now, that will be better. Until
- 1:23:02the end of turn, the friendly creatures power is equal to the number equal
- 1:23:08to the enemy creatures. What Until the end of turn, the friendly creature's
- 1:23:12power is equal to the enemy creature's power. That is actually worse than I
- 1:23:15thought it was, Like, what is like? This just makes it you
- 1:23:25can have like in theory, if you have a ready creature in this house,
- 1:23:30you can at least guarantee you're big enough to fight whatever he's got,
- 1:23:33except if they got armor. It doesn't. This card like it is just
- 1:23:40an amber pip as state sails really nicely. Yeah, this card and you
- 1:23:50can get three of them. Oh oh, it's so bad technically technically okay,
- 1:23:58so if I fight, Oh yeah, but you regularly get three comments
- 1:24:03like that's a common comments common there's you have it in deck and like a
- 1:24:12nine percent chance you have at least two. That's horrible. Horrible. I'm
- 1:24:16gonna guess it wasn't too. I mean, yeah, I mean it has
- 1:24:21a pip, so it should be one. But no, it's so upsetting.
- 1:24:26It's a zero because emotional emotional damage, like isoid card. We had
- 1:24:31to make a better we had to make one of these worse. So like
- 1:24:33you, okay, I got so death. There's only so many Z score
- 1:24:44points to assigned throughout the set. Many Equation cards sacrifice their lives for winds
- 1:24:49of death one because of a tamber pip. Or do you give it a
- 1:24:55too because you did you thought it and most of the exists because of eco
- 1:25:00dirt? What what? What? What would you give this the Oh it's
- 1:25:06a one, that's all you did. Yeah, that's the correct answer.
- 1:25:12But I give it a zero on principle, zero is reserved for like that.
- 1:25:18On princ odd this card because I kind of wanna be real not nice
- 1:25:26to them. Yeah, hospitality, Yeah, it's a hoax incarnation pod November.
- 1:25:33Every time you play it action, choose a card and any discard pile
- 1:25:36and put it on the bottom of its owner's deck. Scrap. He's the
- 1:25:40bottom card from any from each player's deck. I don't hate it. I
- 1:25:45personally really liked draw Disruption. I have not had meaningful success with this card,
- 1:25:54and it's a common yeah, I mean, it gives you something to
- 1:25:59destroy when you discard your sapper. It's like, it's a one for me,
- 1:26:06it's the one. We don't want this car, it's for me three
- 1:26:15three one. What's it doing for you? Like, I guess it's OK.
- 1:26:20He's got to buy the bad decks. It can be when you're I
- 1:26:24mean, when you get to the bottom of your deck and you know end
- 1:26:28of the game, important things are happening. You're making your opponent draw the
- 1:26:32junk back from their deck that they don't need at that point in the game.
- 1:26:35But assuming you, I guess you could put the exto charge on the
- 1:26:40bottom of all. That's good. Southerly, you live so much in Christmas
- 1:26:44Land. I love you. I want to hug you because you like you
- 1:26:46say the best everything. But like this is this is it's not an omni
- 1:26:53it's an action. You're not going to be in ecuadon that much. Express
- 1:27:00Well, you can put your own neck when's the death at the bottom of
- 1:27:02your deck. I can step I can step on legos too, but I
- 1:27:05don't choose to like that. It's just says for most most artifacts, like
- 1:27:15are what you just said that's most I understand that's most artifacts. So but
- 1:27:19but like, really, on average per game, what are you getting three?
- 1:27:25Two to do this? Two times? You're gonna do this, we're
- 1:27:28going to get so are you the boom of really clogging their hand at the
- 1:27:35bottom of the tender the like to elve's defense. Like, if I'm playing
- 1:27:42a good grim Reminder's deck and this house, the one we're talking about right
- 1:27:45now, gets four plus discard pips, that too probably becomes three or four
- 1:27:53because of what happens when you have discard pips in one house. So and
- 1:27:58if you have multiple because it is a common well, right, but you
- 1:28:04can just stack the bottom of your deck with one whole house. Yeah,
- 1:28:08this is well, there's there's a different card in a different house that does
- 1:28:12that instantly, and that's just the bottom and you get two of them.
- 1:28:23Mouf. That just means you're playing that house, which isn't terrible. This
- 1:28:30is a two. It's okay, this is a war. It's a two.
- 1:28:35See what is it? It's a two? There we go insurance policy
- 1:28:40reprint. No one mentioned it. This is actually not bad defense. Like
- 1:28:44I mentioned something about one other before in a set that is very vulnerable to
- 1:28:49in furnace, this is the best way to protect a card. It is
- 1:28:53a little slow, but at least it'll do it. Insurance policy reprint Iron
- 1:28:58Handy, I mean how I think. I think Wookie wants an Iron Handy
- 1:29:08like only copy of this card? Whould you have signed Iron yourself? This?
- 1:29:18Yeah, from the from the Woe pre release found this is one of
- 1:29:26the one of ones. And I oh, it's absolutely terrible. This card
- 1:29:34is another like, can I say what the car? Can I say what
- 1:29:40the card does before we say it's horrible? I mean, it is horrible,
- 1:29:43but can I tell you it's a five? While you are haunted Iron
- 1:29:48Heidi, and each of Iron Heidi's neighbors get plus two armor. There's so
- 1:29:57much direct sea going around. This has never meant anything. It's just a
- 1:30:02five power creature. It might reap once and then it goes away. It's
- 1:30:06a one. I have yet to see it do anything. I've had the
- 1:30:11opposite experience in my Groom Reminders games, because I've personally gone up against a
- 1:30:16lot of scary brabnarpods and this was sort of stopping them from being able to
- 1:30:23destroy key creatures, so then they actually reaped and then beat you. I
- 1:30:29mean, I mean bean stock is beanstock brawling ground? Good stuff? Yeah?
- 1:30:36All right, where where is iron handy? Heidi heldy? I've always
- 1:30:41liked Bulwark. This reminded me of Yes, that's what I had like back
- 1:30:49then. I think, I don't know how this is a two. It's
- 1:30:56a bit of really what hows like Like if you have geys mars like this
- 1:30:59is good. It needs some protection from some of those dudes. If you
- 1:31:02have like Brobnar and fish, it's probably less good. Sand Hopper also exists
- 1:31:09in this set, so you can play a cope out of turn and immediately
- 1:31:13give it armor stuff like that your deck. I guess there are good fish
- 1:31:17targets to protect. It's really just that would not care about her. All
- 1:31:24right, Well, she can continue to give out her iron handies because we're
- 1:31:27gonna go on sign up for an iron handy man. Yeah, let's go
- 1:31:33get the shirts off. But both neighbors too, yea and herself. Okay,
- 1:31:41well she got skills mm hmm hip November. Every time he played it
- 1:31:50is an action enhanced draw discard discard play. We're turning to damage creature to
- 1:31:56its owner's hand. If you do, it's controller gain one games one I
- 1:32:01will. I would put this at two, but it has a extremely high
- 1:32:05upside as a common card. If you have a damaged pip sandworm or a
- 1:32:10damaged pip ledgerd of me. I just keep using it to reheal my six
- 1:32:14power steal one guys. Nice, nice as common I use my handyes,
- 1:32:24so she can continue to give out him. Yeah. Yeah, that's this
- 1:32:28card has been Sometimes it's two amber pips and it comes with enhances, like
- 1:32:33this card has been fine. It's it's been in the three four range because
- 1:32:38the enhances are good and you can generally get the two amber out of it,
- 1:32:43and every once in a while it's important disruption. Oh I forgot the
- 1:32:45enhancements. Yeah, that moves it up to like a four. That's four,
- 1:32:49I think, Yeah, I would have said four. I love this
- 1:32:55card. It's five. I have it at a five. Like everything this
- 1:32:58card does is how I like. Oh, all right, are so you're
- 1:33:03putting it at a five? Mm hmm, so yeah, I'm not angry
- 1:33:09at it, So all right. Market fluctuation PIP November. Every time you
- 1:33:14play it, each haunted player draws three cards. Each player that has not
- 1:33:17haunted discards three cards or three random cards from their hand. I wanted this
- 1:33:26card to be amazing, and I swear every time I had an opportunity to
- 1:33:30play it, I was discarding and you were drawing, and I was like,
- 1:33:32hmm, this is the discard right now. But when it does fire,
- 1:33:41it's really strong. Yep. Yeah, for sure, when you're haunted
- 1:33:45and they're not. Anytime you make an opponent discard three, that is really
- 1:33:50strong. So I like, I think it's like a three, maybe a
- 1:33:57four again playing non griminder, but gminders against grim reminders, this is the
- 1:34:01one for me. Yeah, and grim reminders are reminders. I failed for
- 1:34:05this to ever. The best I got out of it was we both drew
- 1:34:10three, so and you just have six sad two. Like I said,
- 1:34:21that's the best I got out of it. I think that it is against
- 1:34:30grim reminders inset maybe maybe a one. And like, how often are you
- 1:34:33actually doing it? Yeah? I not very often. I'm gonna say,
- 1:34:39yeah, you're discarding this. Sometimes you need to draw it early and be
- 1:34:45able to get to haunted before your opponent there Actually when you draw it early,
- 1:34:49it also isn't necessarily as bad because you play your other house cards and
- 1:34:55then you discard the rest of your hand while they're discarding random Well, if
- 1:34:59you get this early, it's just a it's just a number pip and that's
- 1:35:02fine and a handfult which is fine, right, Yeah, so it it.
- 1:35:09I don't know, like there are just times now where it's just a
- 1:35:12crappy chain. Yeah, Z rated this as Z I edited a four.
- 1:35:23Uh oh wow. If you get this in the beginning of the game,
- 1:35:29like for turn one, two or three, in which case like even if
- 1:35:31you're both not haunted, you're getting efficiency, they're getting f't like if I
- 1:35:41play this against like any slow deck, I'm probably just gonna win. Mm
- 1:35:48hmm. It's here is I don't better? This doesn't work out for me.
- 1:35:56Yeah, I do have a four, and I do understand, like
- 1:36:01late game I am sometimes discarding this, but like, to me, this
- 1:36:05is one of the best cards anyways to go first if you're not on the
- 1:36:11play. You're saying, so this is like a hard Mulligan card. Yeah,
- 1:36:15Like I would Mulligan for this harder than I Mulligan for Eureka. You
- 1:36:18know you sold me on it, like, like imagine if this happens to
- 1:36:23you. You just you went first, like truly, first you played your
- 1:36:26one card, and then they play this card after playing two other EQUEDONNT cards.
- 1:36:30They're gonna draw six. You're gonna go into your first real turn of
- 1:36:33the game with three cards, like unless you probably just lost the game mmmm
- 1:36:45midyear festival are It's it's random and you discarded the three cards they don't care
- 1:36:49about and they just got efficiency too. That's the problem with random. I
- 1:36:54mean that that like people said that about punk as well, like right,
- 1:36:56like that's that's also a thing. But like the chance to just shoot them
- 1:37:01in the head real early, I think it is significant enough for me to
- 1:37:05rate it before that I have. I could move it up to it still
- 1:37:11just because of the gr implications that just doesn't work out nicely. This is
- 1:37:16in a word that I don't thought that I don't have, Like this is
- 1:37:19a card I want to play some more games with to see because like I've
- 1:37:25been flipping back so fast and groom reminders that like this card is always there
- 1:37:30and I'm always looking at going go away card. Yeah, and then I
- 1:37:35really like it. I feel better about it. This is also a because
- 1:37:40there's a couple ways in set at Common to target any card in your discard
- 1:37:45and archive it, like this is a card I would look forward to do
- 1:37:47that. Yeah, if you can value card and there are two commons that
- 1:37:55are very very good that could do that easily. Mid Year Festival is reprint
- 1:38:02out. Negotiate is reprint, pat and Pale not a reprint. Festivities is
- 1:38:10not a reprint. Okay, all right, we go well no, I
- 1:38:16just woll for me woe in gr melding so much together. It's but pipmember.
- 1:38:25Every time I play I'm with You action play Choose nine creatures move all
- 1:38:30amber on the chosen creatures to their controllers. Pools destroy the chosen creatures like
- 1:38:38this is this? This need some freaking sorian with it. This, This
- 1:38:44card would have been better. I mean capture in in geistoid and unfathomable.
- 1:38:54There's a I think it's like a common fishman might be in Common. They
- 1:38:58captures all of their do yep four power coming yeah yep. So like if
- 1:39:03you have sand Hopper with Midior Festivities insane. But because it's very comboy,
- 1:39:10I'd give it like a three. It's just it has that high end.
- 1:39:14I mean, even if nobody's capturing anything, you destroy nine creatures, I
- 1:39:18think it's just report that destroyed nine is pretty big. Yeah, this is
- 1:39:25five. At least this can be a sort of one sidelight, one sided
- 1:39:30board wipe. This is pretty damn strong against WHOA, right, but it
- 1:39:36depends how much your opponents captured. This is this is like five again,
- 1:39:41this is super strong. Yeah, I mean, like any board wipe occasion,
- 1:39:45you know, something not occasionally, but sometimes you discard it, but
- 1:39:48it is so strong, right. My issue is the capture is very prevalent,
- 1:39:57and uh WHOA reminders and so I feel like more than more often than
- 1:40:02not, you're you know, you're giving your opponent good value. I'm gonna
- 1:40:08run my bulletdrink guard into whatever they got and then and then I'm going to
- 1:40:13play my midyear festivities. Yay. I don't know. I want to say
- 1:40:19it's a four, but it's probably five, might be a six. I
- 1:40:23just said half the range is that these are some numbers. There are three
- 1:40:30of the seven possibility. Yeah, maybe I said, like, I don't
- 1:40:33know, there is a card I almost read, couldn't break the system.
- 1:40:43I have this at a at a solid chase card. It is a six.
- 1:40:47It is going to play like a rare. I'm well aware that it
- 1:40:53will be a three and four and a lot of decks, but there are
- 1:40:55going to be a bunch of dexprinted where this is a game winning card most
- 1:41:00games. Yeah, there is a lot of capture in three other houses and
- 1:41:05set and this is like you're literally just taking all of that amber while simultaneously
- 1:41:13board wiping your opponent. There's nothing else in the game that does this card.
- 1:41:16This is this is alone what it does. You're not taking the sixth
- 1:41:21semper for the board. But yeah, you don't take the umber, you
- 1:41:27give it back to its creatures controller. No, if you've captured, you
- 1:41:32get it. They get in line. Like there is alliance card that literally
- 1:41:42captures one Amber on every non sar Lance creature. All right, kind of
- 1:41:48I'm pad five power human action exhaustin enemy creature. If you do, each
- 1:41:54player gains oneember. It's a five power creature that it's all of us.
- 1:42:00This is a two, the one one one it's looking for it. It's
- 1:42:05a five power creature. That's that's at least a two. Yeah, it's
- 1:42:09not anymore. Well, we don't like crappy creatures around here, but we
- 1:42:14like permanent record, permanent records. I like permanent record. Action exhaust a
- 1:42:21friendly creature if you do steal two, yeah, comment this is real.
- 1:42:28Yeah, this is one that gets returned or archived off of those cards that
- 1:42:32let you do that, like steal two while exhausting off house generally. Now
- 1:42:36imagine this was a historianally darkened to play. Get to play it twice.
- 1:42:41I already said that you can't steal my combos Ya you can't, Okay,
- 1:42:48okay, So this is a five. I'm stealing your empery two four.
- 1:42:53I want you four. It's actually it's ad lace. Often you don't have
- 1:43:00an action for a ready creature. I have it literally exactly with what I
- 1:43:09had. This is to me in play is the same as generous software exactly
- 1:43:13because like in this case, sometimes you don't over to creature and generous offer
- 1:43:16in case sometimes you don't have a creature you want to kill. Like they're
- 1:43:19the same. I have them both for they do the exact same thing.
- 1:43:25Good cards, very good cards. It is an upgrade pip a vember.
- 1:43:30Every time you play this creature games while you are haunted, this creature cannot
- 1:43:34be used. Mm hmm, that's that's a one. Maybe it's a to
- 1:43:45it as an ember pip. Yeah, that's what I gave it credit for.
- 1:43:51Well eber pepsi one over this ye yeah, and that's gotten a fact
- 1:43:58that is not meaningful enough. Well, maybe it's one. It'll basically two
- 1:44:02different upgrades together. Only that's right? Which is that's the time? Like
- 1:44:11reminders, it's easy to get there and stay there. You guys again,
- 1:44:15you can have the decks with this card, because I have ade. I
- 1:44:19still don't want cards that are two fair enough pull up stakes? Is that
- 1:44:27a reprint? No reprint? But in a spin but in a spin action
- 1:44:33lose one Ember. If you do choose a house and discard the top card
- 1:44:38of your opponent's deck if that card belongs to the named house, gain four
- 1:44:43Ember. This was this is a conversation. This is not. The opportunity
- 1:44:49cost of this card is positive, that's true. I agreeistically than you will
- 1:44:59lose playing this card. And how much totally amber is that? So you're
- 1:45:04going to lose? That's something, Okay, opportunity costs, right, So
- 1:45:09the odds that you lose and in like in theory, right, We're just
- 1:45:14gonna say it's one uh so one third that you get it, one thirty
- 1:45:17you get it right, multiplied by the four Ember that you win if you
- 1:45:20get it one point three right, So that's minus how much Emperor you're expected
- 1:45:26to gain by playing it minus one right, So you have two thirds of
- 1:45:31the chance, but you're losing one Ember. So you know you'd be expected
- 1:45:35to lose point six Ember. Why am I in the middle of a Scott
- 1:45:38Steiner promo? What nobody understand? Keep going silently, somebody will okay,
- 1:45:45laughing right now, and it's okay, you're just expecting. So I have
- 1:45:50thirty three and two thirds said chances. So anyway, opportunity and stupid positive
- 1:46:00value. You play this card and stupid First math, If you play this
- 1:46:04card three times, once it fires, you gained three The other two times
- 1:46:10you lost one person math, you gain twice as much Ember as you lose
- 1:46:16with it gained one Amber over three plays and you discarded three cards. If
- 1:46:23this card just said lose one Amber and they discard the top of their deck,
- 1:46:27it would suck. This is a crappy gambling A little bit. This
- 1:46:34is this is three. But there's so much stacking the deck and grim reminders.
- 1:46:42You know, it doesn't matter I build net point three or point four
- 1:46:45or point five or a card it is. It's a pointless rare that every
- 1:46:53once in a while is going to hit some amber. And I don't think
- 1:46:55it matters enough to really be excited. But it's a two, dear future
- 1:47:00have it zero. If anyone opens a double put in a spin, I
- 1:47:04will be purposing that, okay, a zero, one one, okay.
- 1:47:14But for all of us gamblers out there, we all know this is a
- 1:47:16seven in our hearts because the opportunity she sheep will probably play this every time.
- 1:47:26Every time. This gard it every time. I mean, if it's
- 1:47:29nothing, every time my amber count. And if it if I'm at one
- 1:47:36or two amber and that's where i was going to end the turn. Anyways,
- 1:47:39you're damn straight I'm playing it. If I'm at six amber and I'm
- 1:47:43playing this card, it goes in the discuss. Listen, man, it
- 1:47:45is another spin of the wheel. Point three expected spin the wheels it's the
- 1:47:50okay, should be point three, look spin the wheel. Well again,
- 1:47:57reminders, there's a lot of manipulation ravating more raing morphasoid. I don't know
- 1:48:02what it is, but it's a four power shape shifter. While you're haunted,
- 1:48:09it gains poison and skirmish after fight after reap drag card discarded card good.
- 1:48:18You see how oh that poison and skirmish doesn't matter. It's it's the
- 1:48:31card is pretty good. I have a couple of decks with discard it.
- 1:48:36I have triggered it once, and I have played those decks in sealed events
- 1:48:44against sheep, against walks, against mister perfect. It has fired a total
- 1:48:48of one time. I would give it a three. Yeah, three,
- 1:48:54I think that's general break. It can more times use the poison all of
- 1:49:01the requirements to be. It's got a body generally expected to reap. It
- 1:49:06has an effect that might fire one rum or so. Four power creature after
- 1:49:15reported this card is the top card of their decks, not anatomy creature that
- 1:49:17shares a house with the discarded card. Same sort of criteria, but I
- 1:49:24would put it out a three minus, which means two. I do have
- 1:49:29this one at a two. Yeah. Its effect is not terribly toff.
- 1:49:33Sand hopper sand good hopping sand worm good. Yeah, it does have two
- 1:49:49embers where we're talking about we're talking about that with fan Hopper and Leagaritamain you
- 1:49:57have. Yeah, we could talk one day when we decide to do that.
- 1:50:01It's right now. There's a whole nother site that does that. Sand
- 1:50:04Worm sixteen power beasts. After fight, shuffle sand Worm in your deck.
- 1:50:10You get two pips of Ember. Every time you play the sand Worm pips
- 1:50:15good, so he's at least it twice. Hold on he can, right,
- 1:50:21which is a three. Yep, at least there you go because you
- 1:50:25can kill you can kill three of them. Well you can't fight. He
- 1:50:31shoves you get to play them again. Another Remember too slow, too slow.
- 1:50:38It does have some power. Is this a four? This is at
- 1:50:44sand Hopper makes us a six? Oh my god? What you're drunk?
- 1:50:53You guys hate emver never what the six means? You're seeing the card to
- 1:51:00win games due to some I have it at a four. I could entertain
- 1:51:08an argument for a five one day, but I need to see it happen.
- 1:51:11Four is a okay, because that's really exactly where it belongs to.
- 1:51:15Scrap Scrounder is a reprint security detail November. Every time you play it,
- 1:51:21play a friendly creature and each of its neighbors capture one or isn't there a
- 1:51:32Starlans card that does almost the same thing to mid Year? Yeah? So
- 1:51:39that this card is good, right? Like? That puts it in the
- 1:51:42three range. Four. It's good, but not amazing. I just have
- 1:51:45it added two because of where I generally evaluate capture Amber at It takes off
- 1:51:55of this that I think because of in house like synergies and and guys,
- 1:52:01the decks will have guys toy like. I think this has to be a
- 1:52:05three in set. There's just too much that can be done with the Amber
- 1:52:09due to those two houses. Midyear festivities yep, all right, shopping Spree
- 1:52:15is a reprint yep. Yeah, although I guess with crap it's a little
- 1:52:25veteran Nope, still sucks. Yeah, this card Sipho Naptarian, Siphon Naptarian.
- 1:52:36That was well done. I thought I called it. I got there
- 1:52:40eventually. Six power trip this is this is six Amber pips. When I
- 1:52:45hit it with that logos card, Well, while you're while you're haunted,
- 1:52:49it has taunt. If it's destroyed and it's not your turn, gain to
- 1:52:55mber. This is I really like this card personally, it's half the value
- 1:53:02of brand without the downside of giving your opponent the ember anti board wipe that
- 1:53:08value of brend. Yeah right, right, but you brend is also anti
- 1:53:15board white in the same sense. It's like a two and maybe a three
- 1:53:20of maybe agree with Sheep that you're drunk Southerly. What's about discouraging your opponent
- 1:53:31from wiping your board like they lose them if they did. Yeah, I
- 1:53:39it's enough of a discouragement to not wipe their board often. But I'm just
- 1:53:45gonna go faster. It's like you're gonna be able to put two of these
- 1:53:49down. I haven't actually gotten one of these yet, so I don't know.
- 1:53:54I played against this. It was very frustrating. Actually I could out
- 1:54:02well, he said it was frustrating and it can kill a brend. So
- 1:54:06it's at a four. You mean I do have it a four? I've
- 1:54:13always so this is a very good iteration of taunters. Most taunters in this
- 1:54:18game aren't anywhere close to this good, and most another similar one at three.
- 1:54:25He is better than most all of them. So I put him at
- 1:54:28a four. Yeah, I start because of the destroyed defect. And this
- 1:54:33is very similar to brabble and it's got yep screl swarm whatever a screl is
- 1:54:44pip November. Every time you play Action Way, deal one damage to each
- 1:54:49anime creature. This is throwing stars that has a scrapability. You may archive
- 1:54:56scurel Scorm from your discard file like inn discarded archive it is this. Yeah,
- 1:55:09yeah, it feels like two. Okay, I would kind of put
- 1:55:14it as a one. Okay, I want I wouldn't want to see it.
- 1:55:21I can accept that you don't really want to see this. Soul exchange.
- 1:55:28Does this like come with multiple copies of itself? And if it had
- 1:55:31discard, if it gave itself discard pips where you could like discard tons of
- 1:55:35these to build up six amber with what discard as is? Yeah, it's
- 1:55:43it's and a left and right. It feels like a one. Let's let's
- 1:55:48exchange our souls. Yea feels like a one to me. I don't know.
- 1:55:54One damage all all those little one creatures running around out there, all
- 1:56:00builds the enemy only like that pops all the woods and stuff. So many
- 1:56:03words floating around right now and when we exchange souls, now exchange choose a
- 1:56:12player return the topmost creature from that player's discard pile to their hand destroy a
- 1:56:18creature controlled by the player. Luckily I was the one that we ordered by
- 1:56:26this card pile with my opponent board wide. Me laughed wow while they weren't
- 1:56:32looking right wow, like right in front of them is this is this a
- 1:56:40sand worm right on top? M hmmm. I think this is a two
- 1:56:46a situation, like you can get your own creature back or destroying opponents.
- 1:56:51If it played the creature, it would be better. So you kind of
- 1:56:58have to be in house. It really only is good with in house equadon
- 1:57:02or you put their really crapperd creature in play and kill their good creature or
- 1:57:06put their crappy creature in can it can't chaine them. I think I see
- 1:57:12this more offensively than in that regard than playing it to get my own crappy
- 1:57:17creature back, unless I I mean, we just went through most of the
- 1:57:20creatures, really only getting your sandworm back like that. Yeah, that's the
- 1:57:25creatures in this house suck. Well. We haven't talent scouts printed, so
- 1:57:30you could always be getting him back. Siphoian was a six or something,
- 1:57:34right, Yeah, like Phil, Phil, give me a pod filled with
- 1:57:39you have sandworm, you have Siparian, you have the sand Hopper, you
- 1:57:44can have in the Historian. Don't forget you like sipho stuff with the change
- 1:57:51either way, it's then you're gonna on manifold for game. Here we go,
- 1:57:57really yeah, manifold, take another take another turn after this one.
- 1:58:03Your opponent draws ten cards perche Taki on manifold. How like if this card
- 1:58:13maybe has said take another turnout of this one on your next turn, your
- 1:58:16keys cost plus ten, this card wouldn't be absolutely bonkers. This card is
- 1:58:21just this card is just like once I'm at second key and Amber it's over.
- 1:58:26I don't know what do you Okay is going to do there? We
- 1:58:29are in the process of doing that, but like, I doubt she's gonna
- 1:58:31code this is a key sheet. But in my system it does. And
- 1:58:34because of our system, all seven houses have a kichi. This is the
- 1:58:43kichi for Equadan and the best of the game. Interestingly, I actually did
- 1:58:48have to use Takian manifold to catch up in a game. I was down
- 1:58:54a key when I played my Kakian manifold and it did actually let me come
- 1:58:58back. Well, it's a weird game. I was like, again,
- 1:59:01there's like cross house synergy stuff that the Okay does and I've been helping them
- 1:59:08with that, Like catch and release is in set, Like just think about
- 1:59:15that. That's take another turn going fallible. Hm hmm, Like okay,
- 1:59:24you in cards, great, I'll take my turn fish, But we are
- 1:59:30talking about the rare and uncommon combo. Yeah, there will be a few.
- 1:59:35There will be a few. It's gonna happen. You'll have to be
- 1:59:40lucky to get. It's gonna probably end up at tables somewhere that you'll see.
- 1:59:45This is another card that makes me say, who play tested this set?
- 1:59:51It was not me? Mm hmm. Anyone want to get the rating
- 1:59:59on this car? Seven? You're almost a seven. That has to be
- 2:00:02almost a seven, I mean yeah, as to me, yeah six plus
- 2:00:06loss. Yes, I have it at six. I have no idea whether
- 2:00:12it can be printed more than one in one deck, but if it is
- 2:00:15printed, if more than one is printed in the same deck, it does
- 2:00:18scale up. Well. There are a few cards that let you hurt too,
- 2:00:23so you could maybe, yeah, get that back to the reprints Forgotten
- 2:00:30Guardian, I don't want to anyways. Scouts reprinted techno rachnophobia. Discard the
- 2:00:38top ten cards of your deck. If you discard five or more cards are
- 2:00:41the same house, This way you get to steal two. I read this
- 2:00:45card. We did this today. If the map has been attempted to be
- 2:00:53solved. Yep. Okay, Well at a at a random state, right,
- 2:01:00You're thirty six cards. Third chance each came out to over fifty percent.
- 2:01:05It was about fifty three. I believe you can control it a little
- 2:01:09bit. Or because you have so much information with a discard pile in your
- 2:01:13hand, it's gonna be I would imagine generally sixty percent of greater hitting.
- 2:01:17Sure. I think the more important portion of this card is discard the top
- 2:01:21ten cards of your deck. You are automatically you're haunted. Yep. Yeah,
- 2:01:27which is why I keep saying most of the in their cars like this
- 2:01:30in almost every house. Yeah, remember minor play most of the game hanted
- 2:01:35at first. Does that make this a four? Three or four? It's
- 2:01:40a four. I would say a four because you can get yourself haunted and
- 2:01:44you can potentially steal too. Because I think the biggest thing is like if
- 2:01:48you get to steal too, that's a bonus. Well, like the more
- 2:01:51important thing is sometimes and I hate cards that sometimes just often enough I'm going
- 2:01:59to discard. I mean towards the end of your day. Okay, what
- 2:02:05are you? I said, it's worn between three or four. I think
- 2:02:11it's four. It's a two three. Three. I think three is also.
- 2:02:18I think a fair assessment. I like it a little more just because
- 2:02:21it automatically gets me haunted and I don't have to work so hard. Umber
- 2:02:27road is there. Well, I think that it depends on when it comes
- 2:02:31out really well. Of course, that's why it's a three, because timing
- 2:02:36is so important to the card. Correct And when you're desperate and you're just
- 2:02:46trade secrets, you can just put it and gamble for the steel. Mm
- 2:02:51hmm. The philosophers reprint, Yeah, why do I not? Because he's
- 2:02:57a rare. That's why, tutor bin, I'm going with minus two.
- 2:03:04Yeah, negative negative one. Here's your dollar for the swear jar. Fuck
- 2:03:11this card. This card is so help from Future Alliance podcast, Yeah,
- 2:03:21they can go help from shut this card up their ass. This card is.
- 2:03:25They were like, this is so good. This card is. Yeah,
- 2:03:30no that's not oh yeah, for Future Alliance podcast. Our local says
- 2:03:35this card is good and spontaneity is the best card and set that's certainly like
- 2:03:45to like. This card frustrates to me a lot, like I can't have
- 2:03:50no I give it a zero? Why can you not give it a zero?
- 2:03:58This card? It is unplayable. I can't even play the card on
- 2:04:03the field because all it does is Okay, I have to play him?
- 2:04:08Why do I have to play him? Because the scrap is worse than the
- 2:04:13play I know, And that's the I mean, is the scrap worst than
- 2:04:16the playtlast I'm getting? You get a four power creature means he's probably going
- 2:04:21to reap and he's a one. And if he doesn't reap, then I
- 2:04:26just gave my opponent a free card. Yeah, that's what you just said.
- 2:04:31Does that work in a scoring system? I know? And I hate
- 2:04:35I hate. I hate him. Every deck had a number in a spreadsheet.
- 2:04:43Everything has no other card that I actually hate more than this card is
- 2:04:46every He is so frustrating because even discarding him field, oh, discarding him,
- 2:04:56and he doesn't shredder material. He never shows up. And just a
- 2:05:00positive note, he never shows up. He's always like a deck that has
- 2:05:05two or three of these just throw them in the tread. I already have.
- 2:05:11Why do you think I have so many sixty seven draw better scores?
- 2:05:15They all have Tutor beIN Rilo like they're all just and like, here's the
- 2:05:18deal. Here's the thing that frustrates me. We get cards like take On
- 2:05:23Manifold, and then you get like just the complete opposite as spectrum of Teeter
- 2:05:28beIN because z was too busy fondling himself looking at take On Manifold and he
- 2:05:33missed all this other garbage. He was just like that car always about like
- 2:05:40if mindfold exists, there have to be a bunch of other bad cars.
- 2:05:45But this is comments so bad Rare, I hate you. You know what?
- 2:05:51Put tutor beIN at Rare and put on Manifold at Commons. Problem solved.
- 2:06:00I mean, why is there a reason that? Is there a reason
- 2:06:04the car could not just stop after that first period to start up to three
- 2:06:09cards? Is there a reason this card exists? Because it's equadon and there
- 2:06:15has to be a balance to everything. What is the balance here? It's
- 2:06:19the theme of the house. There is no balance here. He is garbage,
- 2:06:25just just fun making up for salad. Scouts. Do the last card
- 2:06:34Sandhopper on Common. I mean we have had a half hour cast, so
- 2:06:40we should do the last card. Yeah, oh yeah. On Common Currency
- 2:06:44is a reprint za val Archaeologist. Each time you play an artifact from your
- 2:06:48discard pile game one play slash after reap, you may play an artifact from
- 2:06:54your discard pile an indianagy. It's fun ll he was going to be much
- 2:07:01better than he is At one point in time. I thought there was going
- 2:07:08to be a guaranteed number of artifacts in the house that he is in.
- 2:07:12But I confirm today using the UK with the twenty thousand decks that are there,
- 2:07:16that there are several decks that he exists in that only have two artifacts
- 2:07:23in the whole deck and are not in his house. So considering the dreadge
- 2:07:28aspect of grim Reminders, though, I do think that it's useful for decks
- 2:07:32where artifacts artifacts are important. Good with your scrap, destroy one of your
- 2:07:38artifacts, destroy one of their artifacts. Guy. Yeah, I'm just saying.
- 2:07:42Originally I thought this card was going to be like four or five level,
- 2:07:45but I confirm today. Do you notice how there there's not a single
- 2:07:53sack artifact. There's not I would put it at a four. Personally,
- 2:07:59I guess yes, you could just sit here and try to redo incarnation.
- 2:08:05I saund like I wanted this to card to be really really good. I
- 2:08:09I had wanted it to be a five. I now have it at a
- 2:08:15three because of that, just the card decision is not what I was hoping
- 2:08:20it would be. I get that, But like the whole it just plays
- 2:08:26so well into the dredge of this. If there's only two artifacts in your
- 2:08:31deck, like this means it's not gonna even if you have two artifacts in
- 2:08:33your deck, play a creature, play one of those artifacts back, but
- 2:08:37you may have discarded gain a number. It's a situation. But like what
- 2:08:41she just probably made, like pointed out, like most of the artifacts in
- 2:08:45the set aren't sacrifice, right, but we're talking about like again, you're
- 2:08:50discarding half of your dad in a lot of games. Yeah, I don't
- 2:08:54know. So I do like the of using your discard as the resource,
- 2:09:00and this plays into that and gives you a benefit for playing an artifact at
- 2:09:03your discard pile. If your opponent destroys your artifact you want, you can
- 2:09:07also use this. I kind of like it. I like, sometimes it's
- 2:09:11gonna be but I could give it a four. Now it's a three.
- 2:09:16It's a three. I think it's a three if not a two. Searches
- 2:09:22today, I kept seeing too many texts with what like was there a one?
- 2:09:26I know there was a two. I think there might have been ones.
- 2:09:30There are ones that would have really So the overall on this house,
- 2:09:35I am not actually that high on it, like the like I have a
- 2:09:37deck, it's got a tacky on manifold. But the best card in the
- 2:09:43house for me that game was Trade Secrets because it actually made the rest of
- 2:09:48the bad cards that come in this this house useful because we skipped a lot
- 2:09:52of reprint creatures and stuff, and they are like, they're just bad.
- 2:09:58It's none of the good one, that's for sure. So in a competitive
- 2:10:03setting, I see like two different sorts of houses emerging from this, Like
- 2:10:07the one I can one, I would imagine it's going to be like a
- 2:10:09state style generous offer, permanent records stuff like that, where it's more action
- 2:10:13based and you know, gain ember steel steel, and then the other is
- 2:10:18going to be obviously like sand hopper, sandworm, bouncing creatures, stuff like
- 2:10:22that, and then obviously you know tech manifold I think it's begeistoid. Flip
- 2:10:31your deck, like basically flip your deck over, take the cards you want
- 2:10:33out and put them in your archives and then recur stuff with untamed and archives
- 2:10:39stuff with Mars and just like keep you and win. Like that's gonna be
- 2:10:41a big thing, right. The only competitive lines I see in the set
- 2:10:46for like top in top table or Tachion manifold and like not in the same
- 2:10:50deck and like really abusive midyear festivities decks like there no triple sand Hopper.
- 2:11:00There's just not much to do it like the other set. I guess we
- 2:11:03know, because talent sound is not your side, it's right, Like,
- 2:11:07yeah, you could sand hopper, your your tutor, your sandworm, trawler,
- 2:11:13sandworm in the guard are really it for in house unless you just get
- 2:11:18lucky with pips, right, Like it's right, It's just not quite what
- 2:11:22it was when you get a discard pit placement on a creature though that allows
- 2:11:28you to just like constantly call Equodon after equedon. Yeah, I mean,
- 2:11:31I guess that would be the fine. Like if you get two plus sandhoppers
- 2:11:37with a sandworm with basically any pip on it other than the two, it
- 2:11:41already has, Like you're in bullshit territory, so that's something. So yeah,
- 2:11:46like more than one sand hopper plus sandworm is already a thing, and
- 2:11:50then Tackian manifold and Midyear those would be the three things I'll be on the
- 2:11:56eye like looking at and that's that's it. But like, unfortunately, what
- 2:12:00I'm saying is all kind of rare, Like Tachyon is a rare, Midyear
- 2:12:03is a rare. Double standoffer equates to less than rare. Like that's that's
- 2:12:09what we're seeing this house. Yeah, Like if they don't have one of
- 2:12:13those scenarios, I don't want this as a house in my deck because of
- 2:12:16how good the other houses in the set are. Like like for me,
- 2:12:20Equodon has to have one of those scenarios for me to want it because of
- 2:12:26like, you have a lot of very good options elsewhere, and even if
- 2:12:30you get all of those, you're gonna get three tutor Ben Rilos Well,
- 2:12:33I wouldn't want offer you you will always get to too. And with your
- 2:12:39three tutors, you're gonna get three hospitalities and you are going to cry,
- 2:12:46wait you can discard them off house' hey bring back reversal and maybe we have
- 2:12:52something five. I just I am so upset every time I open up and
- 2:13:01I'm like, oh, EQUADONN and you flip it over and you're like oh
- 2:13:05to Ben Ryley, who knew it's more frustrated than bad Pity because bad pity
- 2:13:13just started her Like this is there. There are enough good cards that this
- 2:13:18will get plenty of play and sealed kind of level play because it's got enough
- 2:13:22steel and enough creature control that's good that you will see it will see play.
- 2:13:31I agreed. Yeah. You can also just draw, and I've done
- 2:13:37it, and it is real bad. Like you can get such a bad
- 2:13:41draw on this house, kind of like Star Alliance and uh and whoa Like
- 2:13:48it can be good, but most often it's a real disappointing thing. I
- 2:13:52mean, it gets myron handies. You know, we do need to be
- 2:13:56a little fair to like to explain kind of what we're seeing here, like
- 2:13:58this, this is actually a good house as far as like the design of
- 2:14:03it compared to other sets. If I were to compare this whole house to
- 2:14:09most other houses in the games and other sets, it's still better than them.
- 2:14:15The only reason I'm saying what I'm saying about the three Like, I'm
- 2:14:16only looking for these three things. That's because there are four other houses that
- 2:14:20are we better than this one. So I'm not actually saying it is a
- 2:14:24bad house overall. It's just probably the fifth or sixth best house in the
- 2:14:31set of lots of good houses. Yeah, and I recently got a real,
- 2:14:37a real stinking pile, so I have no love for them right now.
- 2:14:41I really don't started looking because the boxes that we're open from are cursed
- 2:14:46with the tutor bin. Because when you like really look at it, like
- 2:14:50Jennifer risk Offer and Permanent Record are on, really good steaks is still there.
- 2:14:56Sand Worm is uncommon, sant hoppers uncount Like you're going to have a
- 2:15:01lot of great pods. I opened a nice sand hopper with a discard pipped
- 2:15:05sandworm. So this is why you've got such a heart on for sorrow,
- 2:15:11because you open one that's pretty much that's just and it gets you so much
- 2:15:18value. This is the way that's too that's too uncommon, but that's a
- 2:15:22lot of value. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify do escalation literally one
- 2:15:26of the best wipes we've seen is Yeah, Like, I just wanted to
- 2:15:31make sure that we clarify to our audience like this is a really like we've
- 2:15:35never actually had a set like this where we're talking about like it's the land
- 2:15:37of riches as far as good card a good card because like it just hasn't
- 2:15:43ever happened, it's still a good house. All right. That is going
- 2:15:48to do it for us tonight. That is all of Equadon. I hate
- 2:15:54Tutor ben Rylo join us. Next week we go over the ghosts of the
- 2:16:01Crucible, the Geists. Something tells will find something to hate in there.
- 2:16:07I'll here, there's bad stuff in there, no doubt, like all the
- 2:16:13clocks. But then there's the mamet or whatever, and that's so good.
- 2:16:18I love them, like tech medicals, the best cards ext but like the
- 2:16:22next two best cards in the setter on Common and guys doid but tune in
- 2:16:26to see what they are. That mamete that I got this week that discards
- 2:16:31and basically archives whatever. I'm just archiving whatever I discards it destroy. Yeah,
- 2:16:37so all right, that's gonna do it for this this week. Thank
- 2:16:39you guys so much, and we'll see y'all next week. Be forging everyone
- 2:16:48made the porge be with you. I give it. My second Dallas,
- 2:17:11is that you can't say take this, why I sat dangers, Tell me
- 2:17:22why the fuck is