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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Britney Spears does it again
- 0:13Speaker 1: in the last hours, a wine bar fiasco. This on
- 0:18Speaker 1: the heels of dangerous driving after drinks. I'm not buying it.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
- 0:26Speaker 1: thank you for being with us.
- 0:28Speaker 2: All I have to do is look into her eyes
- 0:30Speaker 2: and you know that she is unwhelmed. She's clearly crying
- 0:33Speaker 2: out for help. Something needs to be done before she
- 0:36Speaker 2: gets herd If you don't have some stockguards, what will
- 0:40Speaker 2: she do next?
- 0:43Speaker 1: We all recall in the last week Britney Spears at
- 0:48Speaker 1: the bar of a Mexican restaurant. I believe it was
- 0:54Speaker 1: drinking what appeared to be out of a champagne flute.
- 0:56Speaker 1: There she is now Minnie, oh, there you go a
- 0:59Speaker 1: toe no though, that's a regular glass. A toast to
- 1:02Speaker 1: the entire group, and then she is led out with
- 1:08Speaker 1: some very saggy shorts. Out she goes and gets into
- 1:13Speaker 1: a car. We also have a video of her with
- 1:17Speaker 1: the same champagne flue that she had the same type
- 1:20Speaker 1: at the wine bar. But let's follow through. There she
- 1:24Speaker 1: goes and she's going to a vehicle. I'm fine, I'm
- 1:30Speaker 1: not the church later, lady, drink whatever you want, but
- 1:33Speaker 1: when you get into a car, you're in trouble. You
- 1:37Speaker 1: are in trouble. There is Britt getting into a car
- 1:40Speaker 1: after drinking an unnamed liquid at a bar and making
- 1:45Speaker 1: a toast with it. And look at this. Somebody actually
- 1:49Speaker 1: takes her knowingly to the car and pours her into
- 1:53Speaker 1: the driver's seat and bye bye, go ahead, hit the highway.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Now this isn't even the scary part. They know she's
- 2:04Speaker 1: been drinking ostensibly. And oh lane weave number one. Notice
- 2:10Speaker 1: the paparazzi following her. Do they call nine one one?
- 2:12Speaker 1: Do they try to help her? No, because they want
- 2:16Speaker 1: the money they're gonna get from this video. You know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: she's had a long history of people taking advantage of her,
- 2:23Speaker 1: taking photos of her when she's at her worst. We
- 2:27Speaker 1: all remember her when she had shaved her head and
- 2:29Speaker 1: was lashing out of the paparazzi with an umbrella. Do
- 2:32Speaker 1: you blame her sitting on the sidewalk with a ripped
- 2:35Speaker 1: hose crying my scary running down her face? Oh lane
- 2:39Speaker 1: weave number two. People use her lane weave number three
- 2:47Speaker 1: that I know of. They use her and make money
- 2:51Speaker 1: off of videos just like this, but it out now,
- 2:54Speaker 1: that is the most significant one. Stay with it. Stay
- 2:57Speaker 1: with it, and I'll show you why that's the most
- 3:00Speaker 1: disturbing one, because right around the curve we see oncoming traffic.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Four more seconds and that could have been a head
- 3:11Speaker 1: on collision and we would be talking about an entire
- 3:16Speaker 1: lane weave number five, an entirely different story tonight. Okay,
- 3:23Speaker 1: that was last week. To Sam croupin joining List, investigative journalist,
- 3:28Speaker 1: host of daily show Sampson's World on YouTube and you
- 3:32Speaker 1: can find him at Secret Service, Sam, I don't know
- 3:34Speaker 1: what that means. But to Britney, Sam, second verse, same
- 3:40Speaker 1: as the first, We're gonna have to go to our shrink.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Regarding a pattern. In the last hours, Britney Spears washes
- 3:46Speaker 1: up at a wine bar and much the same thing
- 3:50Speaker 1: happens in the video. You see Britney Spears walking out
- 3:55Speaker 1: with apparently a restaurant employee who takes her to the
- 4:00Speaker 1: car and she's got in her hand another champagne flute
- 4:05Speaker 1: full of amber liquid and her face is really puffed up.
- 4:08Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but they poured her
- 4:11Speaker 1: into a car and off she goes. This video from
- 4:14Speaker 1: our friends at Daily mil Okay, Sam croupin what happened?
- 4:20Speaker 3: I mean, Nancy, Look, we don't she wasn't pulled over
- 4:23Speaker 3: by police. We have no proof what was inside that glass.
- 4:26Speaker 3: We have no proof that she was drinking and driving
- 4:29Speaker 3: at all. But you can see the video as she leaves,
- 4:32Speaker 3: she's let out. Somebody who's not intoxicated does not need
- 4:35Speaker 3: somebody to lead them out of a restaurant. And then,
- 4:38Speaker 3: as you said, I loved your pun Nancy poured her
- 4:41Speaker 3: into the front seat to drive. And look, we still
- 4:44Speaker 3: know nothing. But then after watching this video and you see, Nancy,
- 4:49Speaker 3: and you made the point, she goes over into the
- 4:52Speaker 3: other lane, she crossed over the double lanes, and you see,
- 4:55Speaker 3: like you said, life works like that that four seconds later,
- 4:59Speaker 3: had she stayed in her car for four seconds to
- 5:02Speaker 3: just look down at the radio or something? That was
- 5:04Speaker 3: a head on collision? And we really need to help
- 5:07Speaker 3: Brittany because nobody's looking out after Like you said, the
- 5:10Speaker 3: paparazzi just films this. Why not call the police? This
- 5:13Speaker 3: is in my mind, this is allegedly clear drinking and driving.
- 5:18Speaker 3: I mean that is her lane discipline is awful.
- 5:22Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it, lane discipline fresh
- 5:25Speaker 1: concern after Britney Spears spotted with a full champagne flute
- 5:30Speaker 1: coming out of a wine bar in the La Suburbs,
- 5:34Speaker 1: much like last time before she climbs behind the wheel
- 5:38Speaker 1: of her car gets poured in. Now her team insisting
- 5:42Speaker 1: she was not drinking alcohol? Then what was that apple juice?
- 5:46Speaker 1: This video from our friends at Daily Mail. Also in
- 5:51Speaker 1: the footage on this most recent footage, her face is
- 5:55Speaker 1: alarmingly puffy and blown up like it's been in flame.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Joining me, Doctor Priyabenergy forensic pathologists and atomic pathologist at
- 6:05Speaker 1: Anchor Forensic Pathology consulting, Doctor Prier, you have handled so
- 6:10Speaker 1: many different variations of what we're seeing to what do
- 6:15Speaker 1: you attribute this.
- 6:17Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into the driving impairment that
- 6:19Speaker 4: we can see, but we know she's at a wine
- 6:22Speaker 4: bar drinking, and really what happens. I mean, she's quite
- 6:26Speaker 4: thin normally and to see her face bloated, that's what
- 6:30Speaker 4: alcohol does to you. I don't know what she's had,
- 6:33Speaker 4: if she's had anything to eat with it, but sometimes
- 6:36Speaker 4: there can be salt, sugar, right mixers. Whatever it is
- 6:41Speaker 4: really affecting her. Alcohol really is a toxin to the body.
- 6:45Speaker 4: It dehydrates you. You might be taking an extra salt.
- 6:49Speaker 4: The body's going to retain water in an effort to
- 6:52Speaker 4: try to balance itself. So she is obviously very disturbed
- 6:57Speaker 4: and is basically a mess.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Doctor pret energy. That doesn't sound like much of a
- 7:02Speaker 1: medical opinion. She's a mess. Are you actually suggesting her
- 7:06Speaker 1: face is blown up like a basketball because of salt intake?
- 7:12Speaker 4: It could be salt, alcohol dehydration. It's just the imbalance
- 7:16Speaker 4: from the alcohol and the excess drinking. And you know,
- 7:20Speaker 4: we know she's been erratic.
- 7:22Speaker 1: For a while now, and.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Alcohol causes huge disturbances. We know she's probably dehydrated, electrolyte
- 7:29Speaker 4: issues and is she even eating enough to balance the alcohol,
- 7:35Speaker 4: so her body's all disregulated.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Okay, this is what I don't understand, Maria. How does
- 7:41Speaker 1: drinking too much blow up your face? Because I've never
- 7:45Speaker 1: heard of that. Well, how does that work? Why does
- 7:48Speaker 1: that happen?
- 7:48Speaker 4: Like an alcohol face au like retain water? You're dehydrated,
- 7:54Speaker 4: Your skin's growth like it just starts. Your body tries
- 7:58Speaker 4: to regulate itself. It's dehydrated, so then it's going to
- 8:01Speaker 4: pull water. Any water that you can have and then
- 8:04Speaker 4: I don't know what she's drinking, but you could have
- 8:07Speaker 4: salty drink, sugary drinks.
- 8:08Speaker 5: All of that's going to cause bloating.
- 8:11Speaker 1: In the law, this is called a similar transaction and
- 8:16Speaker 1: regular talk. When you don't know a horse, look at
- 8:19Speaker 1: her track record. If you don't know what she is doing,
- 8:22Speaker 1: if you don't know what she's going to do, look
- 8:24Speaker 1: at what she has already done.
- 8:27Speaker 6: Leaving the restaurant, Britney struggles maintaining her balance as a
- 8:30Speaker 6: friend holds her hand guiding her outside. Brittany gets behind
- 8:34Speaker 6: the wheel of her black BMW despite protests from restaurant
- 8:37Speaker 6: employees trying to prevent her from driving.
- 8:40Speaker 7: Driving erradically, ignoring road signs, squealing her tires as she
- 8:44Speaker 7: makes a U turn against the posted no U turn sign.
- 8:47Speaker 7: Britney speeds away from the restaurant. She has trouble maintaining
- 8:51Speaker 7: her lane, swerving onto the shoulder and crossing the center
- 8:54Speaker 7: line into oncoming traffic.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Instead of owning it. Britney Spears blames the evil, awful ganger.
- 9:01Speaker 7: Britney Spears takes to Instagram to say if anyone is wondering,
- 9:05Speaker 7: they'll lookalike. Was not me? Many people on social media
- 9:10Speaker 7: have pointed out some oddities about the video in the restaurant,
- 9:13Speaker 7: that the person was similar looking, but the video was
- 9:16Speaker 7: blurry at times. The manager of the red Os says
- 9:19Speaker 7: Brittany was not intoxicated, did not order any alcohol with her. Kisadiya,
- 9:24Speaker 7: a fan, bought her a glass of wine. Oliver Wynn
- 9:27Speaker 7: says Brittany was chatting with her friend and fans and
- 9:30Speaker 7: took pictures. The manager says he was impressed by how
- 9:33Speaker 7: nice she was to everyone.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Joining us is renowned psychoanalysts out of the Beverly Hills jurisdiction,
- 9:39Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. She's the author of deal Breakers. You
- 9:42Speaker 1: can see her now on Peacock and find her at
- 9:44Speaker 1: doctor Bethany marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, don't people know
- 9:49Speaker 1: they are enabling when they buy Brittany a glass of wine?
- 9:54Speaker 8: Nancy, of course they know, because we all know she's
- 9:57Speaker 8: been to drug rehab. We all know that she was
- 9:59Speaker 8: hostile vitalized at Cedars, so the public should know. It
- 10:02Speaker 8: takes a lot of bravery to stand up to somebody,
- 10:05Speaker 8: especially a celebrity, when they're about to get into a car,
- 10:08Speaker 8: but you're not just saving Brittany, but you're saving potential
- 10:11Speaker 8: people that she could hit on the way home. You know, Nancy,
- 10:15Speaker 8: what I'm seeing here is an ingrained pattern that keeps
- 10:20Speaker 8: repeating itself. So there's a saying in my field neurons
- 10:23Speaker 8: that fire together wire together, Meaning if you do something
- 10:26Speaker 8: enough times and you combine alcohol with it, you will
- 10:29Speaker 8: keep doing that exact same thing. She could have an
- 10:34Speaker 8: interlocking device on her steering wheel and then she would
- 10:37Speaker 8: not be able to drive unless she blew into it
- 10:41Speaker 8: and could prove to the to the mechanism that she
- 10:44Speaker 8: wasn't drinking, and that could force her to use ubers
- 10:47Speaker 8: or to get a driver. I think that would be
- 10:49Speaker 8: a best option at this point.
- 10:51Speaker 1: You know another thing, Doctor Bethany Marshall. In both cases
- 10:54Speaker 1: we see someone walking her to the car and pouring
- 10:58Speaker 1: her into the driver's seat. Both cases, they know she
- 11:03Speaker 1: apparently has been drinking alcohol. They know about all of
- 11:08Speaker 1: her issues. Who doesn't. You can't go along without hearing
- 11:13Speaker 1: some crazy Zany conspiracy theory about Britney Spears. They know
- 11:16Speaker 1: all of this, yet they're walking her ount and putting
- 11:19Speaker 1: her into the car.
- 11:20Speaker 8: But Nancy, the people who stood up to her might
- 11:23Speaker 8: have all fallen by the wayside, meaning she has selected
- 11:26Speaker 8: out friendships and a team who look the other way
- 11:29Speaker 8: when she drinks, probably for some personal gain. So let's
- 11:33Speaker 8: say she has a friend who says, you know, you
- 11:35Speaker 8: can't come over if you're drinking, or let's go to rehab,
- 11:38Speaker 8: or they stage an intervention. She's just going to get
- 11:41Speaker 8: rid of those people. Ask anybody who's listening to the
- 11:44Speaker 8: show who has a friend who's an alcoholic will know
- 11:48Speaker 8: once you stand up to them, sometimes they just will
- 11:51Speaker 8: never talk to you again. So we're seeing people who
- 11:54Speaker 8: are benefiting, benefiting in some other way from their friendship
- 11:58Speaker 8: with Britney.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Earlier, we heard Sam Krupin, host of Sampson's World, on
- 12:03Speaker 1: YouTube describing the issue surrounding proving this was an alcoholic
- 12:10Speaker 1: beverage to Kathy Griffin joining US private investigator owner of
- 12:13Speaker 1: Kate Griff Investigations, by the way, the largest female owned
- 12:17Speaker 1: investigative agency in Texas. Kathy, you have to go through
- 12:21Speaker 1: a lot of hoops to prove duy. But here, in
- 12:26Speaker 1: very disturbing footage and photos, Spears looks disheveled, her hair
- 12:30Speaker 1: is crazy, her face really puffy. All signs that she's
- 12:35Speaker 1: not taking care of herself and is drinking again. What
- 12:39Speaker 1: do you have to do to actually prove a duy
- 12:42Speaker 1: in court?
- 12:43Speaker 9: Kathy, Well, first of all, you have to have somebody
- 12:47Speaker 9: you know, counting drinks with actually seeing them drink the
- 12:51Speaker 9: alcohol number one and number two, you know, getting into
- 12:55Speaker 9: the car and actually driving themselves. And my question to
- 12:59Speaker 9: begin with is why is Brittany driving? To begin with,
- 13:02Speaker 9: She's got lots of people that can help her or
- 13:04Speaker 9: should be helping her, and she's not. I think that,
- 13:08Speaker 9: you know, she's out of control at this point, and
- 13:11Speaker 9: I think she she needs people to help her. We
- 13:13Speaker 9: get hired from parents to do this for other parents
- 13:17Speaker 9: that are with children that are trying to get a
- 13:21Speaker 9: conservativeship over their children that are drinking and driving and
- 13:24Speaker 9: doing drugs and so so we are familiar with this
- 13:27Speaker 9: kind of behavior and we document all of this and
- 13:30Speaker 9: it's and it's scary that she is allowing this to
- 13:33Speaker 9: even happen to her.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Sway, you've actually been an adult babysitter to keep people
- 13:38Speaker 1: from drinking and doing drugs before.
- 13:40Speaker 9: Pretty much yes, or to at least at least gather
- 13:43Speaker 9: the evidence to see if they're doing that.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Yes, interesting, Ashley Crispin joining us a high profile lawyer.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Ashley question, when you prove a duy in court? The
- 13:56Speaker 1: Criminal Code the statute is very specific. You cannot prove
- 14:00Speaker 1: a case by saying I saw her having a drink
- 14:02Speaker 1: at a bar. You don't know what she's drinking. For
- 14:04Speaker 1: all I know, that could be sparkling apple juice that
- 14:07Speaker 1: happens to be in a champagne flute that she happens
- 14:09Speaker 1: to use to toast everyone as if it were alcohol.
- 14:13Speaker 1: We have a fan buying her wine at the bar
- 14:16Speaker 1: and giving it to her and watching her drink it.
- 14:19Speaker 1: We don't know if that's her first drink, fifth, her
- 14:23Speaker 1: fifteenth for that night. And we don't know what blood
- 14:26Speaker 1: alcohol she's got, what the level is. Is she appoints
- 14:31Speaker 1: zero seven, which is under the legal limit, or appoints
- 14:33Speaker 1: zero eight or a two. You have to have a
- 14:38Speaker 1: blood alcohol test, a credible blood alcohol test, such as
- 14:43Speaker 1: one taken at the scene by a breathalyzer. It has
- 14:46Speaker 1: to be handled a certain way, It has to be
- 14:49Speaker 1: analyzed a certain way, just like every scientific evidence ever
- 14:54Speaker 1: introduced into trial. I mean, think about it. Think about
- 14:57Speaker 1: Brian Coburger. Remember his DNA found on the snap of
- 15:01Speaker 1: the hilt of the murder knife that was taken from
- 15:04Speaker 1: the crime scene. It was taken from the crime scene
- 15:07Speaker 1: in a particular type of receptacle bag taken to the
- 15:14Speaker 1: crime lab. Whoever carried it had to write on the
- 15:17Speaker 1: outside of the envelope and seal the envelope that they
- 15:21Speaker 1: promise no one is tampered with it. When they get
- 15:24Speaker 1: to the crime lab, it's handed over, a person receives
- 15:27Speaker 1: it and signs for it. It's then given to the scientist.
- 15:31Speaker 1: The scientist signs for it and then opens the bag
- 15:35Speaker 1: and does the tests. It's a very strict chain of custody.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Same thing with DUIs. You can't prove it du Why
- 15:44Speaker 1: on an anecdote, Oh yeah, I think I saw her drinking.
- 15:48Speaker 1: That doesn't work, Ashley.
- 15:50Speaker 5: I hear you, Nancy. But in every case, we don't
- 15:53Speaker 5: always have the physical evidence that we'd want civil or
- 15:57Speaker 5: criminal cases. In criminal cases a higher standard. In civil
- 16:01Speaker 5: cases we have a lower standard. But we have circumstantial evidence.
- 16:05Speaker 5: That's what we rely on in many cases, and in
- 16:08Speaker 5: this case in order to prove a DUI for Britney Spears,
- 16:11Speaker 5: where we don't have a blood alcohol level what's going
- 16:14Speaker 5: to have to happen is the interviewing of all of
- 16:17Speaker 5: the personnel that works at the bar club that she
- 16:21Speaker 5: was at. You have the interview of the fan who
- 16:24Speaker 5: bought the drink and watched the drink. I actually saw
- 16:28Speaker 5: in the background of that video. It looked like it
- 16:30Speaker 5: was like a busser or some kind of personnel there.
- 16:33Speaker 5: The look on his face right there is like, what
- 16:35Speaker 5: is happening? This is crazy. So you certainly have other
- 16:39Speaker 5: people in this restaurant that can help you prove your case.
- 16:42Speaker 5: You always want that evidence. You always want that physical evidence.
- 16:45Speaker 5: But if you don't have it, you're not sunk.
- 16:47Speaker 8: You just have to try harder.
- 16:49Speaker 5: And that video is damning with her driving. I mean
- 16:52Speaker 5: to me, I'd open up in any opening with that
- 16:55Speaker 5: video right going over the double lines is where I'd start,
- 16:59Speaker 5: and then I'd walk.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Myself joining us right now. The so called King of
- 17:03Speaker 1: DUI's Raymond Judice, veteran trial lawyer out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Now,
- 17:08Speaker 1: why is he the King of d UI's Because once
- 17:11Speaker 1: upon a time he was the lead prosecutor of DUI's
- 17:16Speaker 1: and an Atlanta metropolitan area, a Decab County he used
- 17:19Speaker 1: that experience prosecuting dangerous DUI's and suddenly started defending them.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Ray Judice, thank you for being with us. We have
- 17:29Speaker 1: a lot of anecdotal evidence that Britney Spears is drinking
- 17:33Speaker 1: alcohol again and then getting poured into a car by
- 17:38Speaker 1: none other than a restaurant bar employee, and she cranks
- 17:43Speaker 1: up and drives off. There's a video of her veering
- 17:45Speaker 1: all over the road that would never stand up in court.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Ray Jiudicay, the defense would slash that to ribbons without
- 17:56Speaker 1: a blood alcohol test.
- 17:57Speaker 10: Explain well, I agree, Nancy, that may be a disha
- 18:00Speaker 10: or enough probably cause to stop the car or pull
- 18:03Speaker 10: the car over. But the absolute gold standard, the highest
- 18:07Speaker 10: and best evidence you remember from law school as a prosecutor,
- 18:11Speaker 10: is a blood test drawn in Georgia within three hours
- 18:15Speaker 10: from the time of arrest by a certified for of
- 18:18Speaker 10: bottomist and that can be found at the fire department
- 18:21Speaker 10: at EMTs, the hospital emergency room that then goes to
- 18:25Speaker 10: the GBI crime lab. And as a prosecutor, you take
- 18:28Speaker 10: that blood test and you put a prosecution exhibit sticker
- 18:32Speaker 10: on it, and you put it up on a big
- 18:33Speaker 10: board and it says er point one point seven or whatever.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Over the sticker, and the sticker, I rab a boat
- 18:40Speaker 1: on it, put it on a silver platter, and put
- 18:41Speaker 1: it on top of the Christmas tree. That's what I
- 18:43Speaker 1: would do with that blood alcohol. And what happens at
- 18:46Speaker 1: trial if I, the prosecutor, try to prove a DUI
- 18:51Speaker 1: driving under the influence, and all I've got is a
- 18:53Speaker 1: fan going, yeah, I bought her glass of wine for
- 18:55Speaker 1: all on me. She peeked it up in the bathroom.
- 18:58Speaker 1: I can't prove anything about that blood alcohol.
- 19:01Speaker 10: It might even be a directed verdict of acquittal, might
- 19:04Speaker 10: not even get to a jury. You've got to have
- 19:06Speaker 10: a test. You can charge, you can arrest, but it's
- 19:11Speaker 10: hard to convict without a gold standard.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Blood test, and typically across the country the legal leminace
- 19:19Speaker 1: point zero eight. Let me ask you what don't reveal
- 19:23Speaker 1: a name, which I know you wouldn't, but what's the
- 19:26Speaker 1: worst blood alcohol number you've ever had, either prosecuting it
- 19:30Speaker 1: or defending it?
- 19:32Speaker 10: Oh, Nancy. When I was a prosecutor back in the eighties,
- 19:35Speaker 10: we would get blood tests from Grady Memorial Hospital and
- 19:39Speaker 10: we used to have what we call the four hundred
- 19:41Speaker 10: club point four five times at the legal blood alcohol level.
- 19:45Speaker 10: But those were chronics that was not a first time
- 19:49Speaker 10: drinker or three glasses of wine. Usually those folks were
- 19:53Speaker 10: usually older men and they had a long history of serious,
- 19:57Speaker 10: hard drinking. In fact, surprise, many of those fellas looked
- 20:02Speaker 10: pretty good on the videotape because they've been drinking all
- 20:05Speaker 10: their life. But the blood was drunk. Okay, the blood
- 20:08Speaker 10: didn't lie, and we would still get convictions of no
- 20:11Speaker 10: matter how good they looked on the walk and turn
- 20:13Speaker 10: of the leg lift, the blood was over the legal limit.
- 20:16Speaker 11: And it's just hard.
- 20:17Speaker 10: That's just hard for a jury to ignore. Jurors are
- 20:20Speaker 10: used to blood tests. Blood test tells you who you chosen,
- 20:22Speaker 10: are tells you whether your eyes are green or blue.
- 20:25Speaker 10: It tells you you know whether you've got a disease.
- 20:27Speaker 10: People are used to blood tests. The science is good,
- 20:30Speaker 10: and when that lab technician comes in with their masters
- 20:34Speaker 10: in biology from Georgia Tech and explains how the blood
- 20:37Speaker 10: is tested, the jury is just wrapped around your finger
- 20:41Speaker 10: as a prosecutor. So that, like I said, I call
- 20:44Speaker 10: that the gold.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Standard crime stories with Nancy Gray, Now you're talking about
- 20:58Speaker 1: all those old guys that have been drinking whole lives.
- 21:00Speaker 1: You know what I call that an h the habitual violator. Now,
- 21:05Speaker 1: a lot of these cases end up just with somebody
- 21:08Speaker 1: landing overnight in the can because of a drinkie. But
- 21:12Speaker 1: when you have a head on collision ray Judica, it
- 21:15Speaker 1: ain't so funny anymore, is it.
- 21:18Speaker 10: Well, No, of course, and that can be an elevated
- 21:20Speaker 10: selling charge if the other party is injured, called a
- 21:23Speaker 10: serious bodily injury by vehicle or in tragic situations ba
- 21:27Speaker 10: ulah homicide. So sure. Look, when I started prosecuting these
- 21:32Speaker 10: cases in June of nineteen eighty five, the blood alcohol
- 21:36Speaker 10: limit in Georgia permissible was point one two. Okay, that
- 21:41Speaker 10: was a drunk driving. Mother's Against Drunk Driving has done
- 21:44Speaker 10: a fantastic job working with law enforcement and state legislators.
- 21:49Speaker 10: The level then one two point one zero, then point eight,
- 21:53Speaker 10: and in certain circumstances, if it's combined with prescription medication
- 22:00Speaker 10: like an antidepressant or muscle relaxers or any kind of opioid,
- 22:04Speaker 10: a blood alcohol level less than point oh eight, let's
- 22:07Speaker 10: say a point oh five point oh six can be
- 22:10Speaker 10: used to prosecute under Georgia law under what's called an
- 22:14Speaker 10: alcohol plus prescription medication or they were smoking. And all
- 22:18Speaker 10: these young folks think THCHC is like drinking a glass
- 22:22Speaker 10: of milk. Well, here in Georgia you can be under
- 22:25Speaker 10: the influence of THCHC. That's marijuana plus some alcohol and
- 22:29Speaker 10: that'll get you a dui every day of the week.
- 22:31Speaker 7: Seeing the video from the restaurant and driving, family members
- 22:34Speaker 7: are shocked, concerned. They need to step in before the
- 22:37Speaker 7: downward spiral leads to another breakdown, similar to what happened
- 22:41Speaker 7: when she shaved her head, lost custody of her boys,
- 22:44Speaker 7: and ended up hospitalized. That event in two thousand and
- 22:47Speaker 7: seven ended with Brittany in a conservative ship managed by
- 22:50Speaker 7: her father for thirteen years.
- 22:53Speaker 2: She's clearly in a very very unstable place. She's stancing
- 22:57Speaker 2: around naked with knives with a bunch of duck hoop in.
- 22:59Speaker 11: The Maybe she had been pushed as far as she
- 23:03Speaker 11: could take them.
- 23:03Speaker 1: No wonder everybody's worried sick about Britney Spears. Okay, apparently
- 23:09Speaker 1: in the last days Britney Spears. And this is just
- 23:14Speaker 1: prior to the wine bar fiasco and just after the
- 23:20Speaker 1: weaving amongst the lanes while apparently drinking. Britney seeks out
- 23:27Speaker 1: professional advice from the Kardashians. Oh, we're just chilling in
- 23:36Speaker 1: our geriatric bed.
- 23:39Speaker 8: Because this dead vibrates.
- 23:41Speaker 1: What the what the.
- 23:47Speaker 4: Baby dude won't three three three four.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Six split split.
- 23:58Speaker 1: The Kardashian children appslutely adorable, But can we get to
- 24:03Speaker 1: the point. Dr Bethony Marshall, renounced psycho analyst. Do I
- 24:07Speaker 1: have this right that Britney Spears is getting love advice,
- 24:13Speaker 1: advice about finding the right guy from the Kardashians. And
- 24:17Speaker 1: let me be clear, I know the Kardashians. People trash
- 24:22Speaker 1: them all the time. I think out of jealousy. This
- 24:26Speaker 1: is how I know them because Rob Kardashian, Robert Kardashian
- 24:30Speaker 1: the Sun competed with me on Dancing with the Stars,
- 24:33Speaker 1: and he was a great dancer. And can I tell
- 24:36Speaker 1: you they would come by all the time to watch
- 24:39Speaker 1: him practice, and they could not have been more polite
- 24:43Speaker 1: and nicer people. I mean, they were wonderful and very
- 24:48Speaker 1: supportive of him. So that's my experience with them, so
- 24:52Speaker 1: I don't really appreciate all the trashing. However, the Kardashian
- 24:57Speaker 1: women have had a long line of parasitic boyfriends and husbands, right,
- 25:03Speaker 1: they're horrible. These guys they attract. Why and they're telling
- 25:08Speaker 1: Brittany who to date? I mean, Bethany, do I have
- 25:13Speaker 1: to say Kanye, Kanye, I think you'll remember this, won't you? Bethany.
- 25:19Speaker 12: Look, I spent like all the money for the commercial.
- 25:26Speaker 1: On these new teeth.
- 25:29Speaker 2: Once again, I had to shoot it on the iPhone.
- 25:33Speaker 10: Go to easy dot com.
- 25:37Speaker 8: Make it stop.
- 25:37Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. And how we
- 25:39Speaker 1: spent like one hundred thousand dollars on those teeth. They're horrible.
- 25:44Speaker 1: That's from easy Online. Kim Kardashian, the Queen of reality,
- 25:51Speaker 1: the multi gibilty billionaire. Her she married him? Why? Why?
- 25:59Speaker 12: She?
- 26:00Speaker 1: He does have something to show for it, the awesome children,
- 26:04Speaker 1: but Kanye, and she's giving Britain and help me.
- 26:11Speaker 8: Well, it's not just that he is allegedly mentally unstable.
- 26:16Speaker 8: With this video you just paid. He probably spent almost
- 26:19Speaker 8: his entire paycheck from that Super Bowl appearance just on
- 26:23Speaker 8: new teeth. His team can't even take away his iPhone.
- 26:26Speaker 8: So this is not just poor relationships. This is relationships
- 26:29Speaker 8: with people who are quite unstable and parasitic. Nancy parasites
- 26:35Speaker 8: and what I mean by that, they choke, they put
- 26:38Speaker 8: a stranglehold on the host.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Okay.
- 26:42Speaker 8: Financial abuse is a form of intimate partner violence. I
- 26:47Speaker 8: don't know if you know that. It's a chronic part
- 26:49Speaker 8: of relationship domestic violence, and we can see it in
- 26:52Speaker 8: a lot of these relationships where these men just suck
- 26:56Speaker 8: off the Kardashians. Britney Spears has had that same experience,
- 27:01Speaker 8: and so it's sort of scary.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Who's do you remember ray j a right? Di? Does
- 27:08Speaker 1: he take the sex tape video of him? Did? And Kim?
- 27:14Speaker 1: What wasn't that the guy on? Okay? Yeah? I mean
- 27:17Speaker 1: really what their ticks sucking the blood out of these
- 27:23Speaker 1: beautiful women. I don't get it.
- 27:26Speaker 8: And you know it's interesting, Nancy, but parasitic lifestyle like
- 27:30Speaker 8: men who are parasites with women. They're entitled. They want
- 27:34Speaker 8: to get something without giving something in return. This is
- 27:37Speaker 8: a sign of narcissism and antisocial personality disorder because entitlement
- 27:42Speaker 8: is the expectation of reward without achievement. I'm just going
- 27:46Speaker 8: to marry you and I'm going to take your money,
- 27:48Speaker 8: but I'm not going to do much to make.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Your life better.
- 27:51Speaker 8: All the benefits flow towards me. The parasite. The benefits
- 27:56Speaker 8: are not supposed to flow towards you, and I do
- 27:58Speaker 8: think they attract these kinds of men is really unfortunate,
- 28:02Speaker 8: and that what's there in it? They can't see what
- 28:04Speaker 8: they're in.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. Forget about Kanye drooling in his
- 28:10Speaker 1: video and RAYJ selling the sex tape or making a
- 28:15Speaker 1: sex tape. What about lamar Odem He had Chloe, he
- 28:22Speaker 1: was married to Chloe. Then he ends up in a
- 28:26Speaker 1: brothel and not only does he go to a house
- 28:29Speaker 1: of prostitution, he gets caught. Then there's the drugs, there's
- 28:34Speaker 1: the alcohol. Can they find a guy that actually helps them?
- 28:40Speaker 1: Help me out? Listen to this list? Dr Bethany, ray J,
- 28:44Speaker 1: lamar Odom, Chiston, Thompson, David Chloe. They have two children together.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Where is he? Is he paying child support? I doubt it?
- 28:51Speaker 1: French Montana, I don't think you did anything wrong. You've
- 28:57Speaker 1: got disic. Oh my stars put up disc Has Scott
- 29:01Speaker 1: Dissick ever earned money on his own Rsi's still riding
- 29:06Speaker 1: Courtney's coattails. He was even referred to in the reality
- 29:10Speaker 1: show as Lord Dissick. I guess because of his penchant
- 29:14Speaker 1: for expensive designer stuff. I mean, he's like chitching sucking
- 29:20Speaker 1: them dry, sucking the Kardashians dry, and they're giving Britney
- 29:24Speaker 1: love advice.
- 29:26Speaker 8: Hey, Nancy, you know I once treated Courtney Kardashian as
- 29:30Speaker 8: the part of the show. She came to my Beverly
- 29:31Speaker 8: Hills office, and the stories she told I can talk
- 29:34Speaker 8: about this because its been aired on TV. But the
- 29:36Speaker 8: stories she told me about Scott that at one point
- 29:40Speaker 8: they were driving through an intersection and Chris was behind
- 29:43Speaker 8: the wheel. They slowed the car. He was so upset
- 29:47Speaker 8: about something he jumped out of the passenger door while
- 29:50Speaker 8: the car was still going. It did like the triple
- 29:53Speaker 8: quadruple roll and then run down the block and she
- 29:56Speaker 8: still could not separate from him. She also told me
- 30:00Speaker 8: that whenever she was in New York City she had
- 30:02Speaker 8: to go to work and he was here. She was
- 30:04Speaker 8: constantly afraid that he was with other women. Tiga cheated
- 30:08Speaker 8: all the time on Kylie all the time. I mean,
- 30:11Speaker 8: I just hear all these stories from my office. When
- 30:13Speaker 8: lamar Odom had that overdose, Remember you were referencing when
- 30:17Speaker 8: she went to the I don't know it was, Nancy,
- 30:21Speaker 8: It wasn't just that prostitution and drug abuse. He had
- 30:26Speaker 8: an event, a health event where he almost died. Chloe
- 30:30Speaker 8: flew to be with him. The Kardashians surrounded him with love.
- 30:34Speaker 8: So it's not just that the men are taking advantage
- 30:37Speaker 8: of them. This is a group of women who tend
- 30:39Speaker 8: to be very supportive of the men in their lives.
- 30:42Speaker 8: But you know, it's that kind of like the blind
- 30:45Speaker 8: bleeding the blind.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Men are using them and sucking them dry. Same thing
- 30:50Speaker 1: happening to Brittany. Now, we can't blame Brittany's apparent junk
- 30:54Speaker 1: driving on a man, but they certainly aren't helping to
- 30:59Speaker 1: Dave matt We've just been outlining all these incredible Kardashian
- 31:03Speaker 1: women dating and marrying a bunch of losers that sudden
- 31:06Speaker 1: them dry. That said, what about Britney. I mean, obviously
- 31:11Speaker 1: Kevin feederline use her now as soon as the child
- 31:14Speaker 1: support is he starts pushing his tail all book. But
- 31:18Speaker 1: he is one in a line of many that have
- 31:21Speaker 1: used Britney, such as who Dave mack Well, she.
- 31:26Speaker 11: Had sam Asgari her final husband. You know, we've got
- 31:33Speaker 11: Columbus short Wade Robson, Jared Leito back in the day
- 31:38Speaker 11: fred Urce, and of course you know the guy that
- 31:42Speaker 11: she wins him.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Ask you why who she's dated? I've asked you who's
- 31:46Speaker 1: using her? Who used her?
- 31:51Speaker 11: Every person in her life uses her, Nancy, she has
- 31:55Speaker 11: think about this. When you see her coming out of
- 31:58Speaker 11: that restaurant, who is she with? Nobody? When she was
- 32:02Speaker 11: at the red O a couple weeks ago, who was
- 32:04Speaker 11: she with somebody that was kind of following her around.
- 32:08Speaker 11: She doesn't have anyone in her life that isn't using
- 32:12Speaker 11: her for something, Nancy, including Fetter Line. As soon as
- 32:16Speaker 11: the child support stops, he comes out with that book
- 32:19Speaker 11: to trash her, just to make a paycheck. Everyone in
- 32:22Speaker 11: her life has constantly done this for her.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Crime stories. With Nancy Grace Sam Croupen joining us host
- 32:38Speaker 1: of Sampson's World on YouTube, this is a point. This
- 32:43Speaker 1: is a valid point. People use her and they seemingly
- 32:48Speaker 1: don't care at all about the effect on her. This
- 32:52Speaker 1: doesn't explain away alleged drunk driving. But we see all
- 32:57Speaker 1: of these enablers, including all of these.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Men, I mean we call them yes men, Nancy, and
- 33:04Speaker 3: I have to say, after watching this video over and
- 33:06Speaker 3: over and seeing the look on that bus, boy's face.
- 33:09Speaker 3: I'm just feeling the body language and their faces that
- 33:13Speaker 3: like that. He's saying, like, we got to get her
- 33:16Speaker 3: out of here. But this is Britney Spears, so we
- 33:18Speaker 3: have to kind of treat her with kid gloves. If
- 33:20Speaker 3: this was any regular person, if I went in there
- 33:22Speaker 3: and probably held the restaurant up and would just it
- 33:25Speaker 3: looks like she's sitting in there drinking and then she
- 33:28Speaker 3: drops something they have to pick it up. But the
- 33:30Speaker 3: answer is is nobody wants to tell a celebrity no.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Why because once they do, they are instantly pushed out
- 33:37Speaker 3: of their circle. I mean, I'm sure you've had a
- 33:40Speaker 3: friend who goes to your party and wants to drink
- 33:42Speaker 3: and drive you like, please don't like I can drive,
- 33:45Speaker 3: I can't do it. You know, it's like a toddler.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Sam Creepin. You need to do more, a little more investigation.
- 33:54Speaker 1: We don't have parties with alcohol because I have twins.
- 33:57Speaker 1: What kind of example what I set for them? I
- 34:00Speaker 1: don't want them running outside it a bottle of wine. No,
- 34:03Speaker 1: I don't invite people ever to drink at my parties.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Right, But I'm saying, Nancy, if I'm hanging out with you,
- 34:11Speaker 3: and Nancy Grace says, hey, Sam, you want to do
- 34:13Speaker 3: a shot with me? I'm like, well, this is Nancy Grace.
- 34:16Speaker 3: I got a rise to the occasion. I can't tell
- 34:18Speaker 3: her no. As regular people, we have a very hard time.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Just say hey, Sam, do you want to do a
- 34:24Speaker 1: shot with me? That is never coming out of my mouth.
- 34:28Speaker 1: You need a different example.
- 34:30Speaker 3: Okay, look, Nancy. All I'm saying not hearing. All I'm saying,
- 34:37Speaker 3: Nancy is this is the problem with Hollywood and celebrities,
- 34:42Speaker 3: is that everybody a wants to do drinks with you.
- 34:45Speaker 3: They don't want to say no to you. They just
- 34:47Speaker 3: want to be the life of the party for you
- 34:49Speaker 3: and never say no. But here is the problem is,
- 34:52Speaker 3: look at Brittany. She's not touring anymore. She's not making
- 34:56Speaker 3: any money. She's blowing through her money. And I believe
- 34:59Speaker 3: what's so sad is this is a desperate call for help.
- 35:02Speaker 2: At some point, something tragic is going to happen.
- 35:04Speaker 9: The Britney Spears that we're seeing today is the Britney
- 35:07Speaker 9: Spears who was always existent.
- 35:09Speaker 2: I would like to see her here. I would like
- 35:11Speaker 2: to see her back on stage of her own volition.
- 35:14Speaker 2: I would like to see her recording music.
- 35:18Speaker 1: On the hills of a dangerous driving escapade, now a
- 35:21Speaker 1: wine bar fiasco. What is happening with Britney Spears and
- 35:26Speaker 1: is she heading straight to another conservatorship? This as question
- 35:32Speaker 1: swirling around her fake brit accent, people online even suggesting
- 35:37Speaker 1: she's got a split personality. That's nothing to joke about.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Listen and her early hands.
- 35:45Speaker 2: It's really hearty, high, as high as hot.
- 35:51Speaker 1: He's so hot, good gone.
- 35:55Speaker 12: I used to put my whole hand in it, as though,
- 35:58Speaker 12: since I honestly want to pull of it. It just
- 36:01Speaker 12: like it's not like one hundred and fifty degrees. It's
- 36:03Speaker 12: just like I'm one hundred and ten and just jumping
- 36:06Speaker 12: something fus you know, good stupid.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Look, I'm just a trial lawyer, but I know something
- 36:13Speaker 1: is wrong with that. Listen and then what was my
- 36:15Speaker 1: gifts so long?
- 36:17Speaker 2: What's apost to be long?
- 36:19Speaker 1: This is short? Now Britney Spears again adopting a fake
- 36:26Speaker 1: British accent, and she's really good at it. Listen and
- 36:33Speaker 1: can put my whome foot in there.
- 36:36Speaker 12: It's gonna be really funny. I have at my foot
- 36:38Speaker 12: and yeah, and it feels like just a moist tease
- 36:45Speaker 12: and it's like, oh good god, it feels so good.
- 36:50Speaker 12: Oh my god, it's like so nice.
- 36:53Speaker 1: And again, oh hi, you're not good. Who's gonna die?
- 37:00Speaker 1: I ask kid, Well, I would probably recommend going. He's
- 37:04Speaker 1: gonna jump too, He's gonna jump to Doctor Bethany Marshall.
- 37:11Speaker 1: I'm sure you have at least seen the movie Sybil
- 37:16Speaker 1: about multiple split personalities. That wasn't just a movie that
- 37:20Speaker 1: was based in fact, or the old uh dramatization Three
- 37:25Speaker 1: Faces of Eve, which was also based on a real
- 37:29Speaker 1: split personality, A multiple personality, not just split but multiple.
- 37:36Speaker 1: How likely is it? That's extremely rare? And I'm curious.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Hold on Sam Croupen joining us, star of Sampson's World
- 37:44Speaker 1: on YouTube, investigative journalist. When does the false accent come out?
- 37:51Speaker 1: Is it triggered? What is it intentional? What is it?
- 37:56Speaker 3: I don't I just don't know, Nancy, I'm not really sure,
- 38:00Speaker 3: but I think hit British accent.
- 38:02Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 38:02Speaker 3: I mean, she's an actress, she's an artist.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Really, honestly, did you have to okay, you lost to
- 38:08Speaker 1: all journalistic credibility just then back to Dr Bethanie Marshall. Actually,
- 38:14Speaker 1: the reality is it comes out at all different times,
- 38:18Speaker 1: whether she's having fun, whether she's under duress, whether she's
- 38:22Speaker 1: shooting an instat video of her twirling around in nothing
- 38:25Speaker 1: but pasties. That's her right under the constitution. Does it
- 38:29Speaker 1: signify anything serious? Isn't that very rare to have split
- 38:34Speaker 1: or multiple personalities?
- 38:36Speaker 8: It signifies something serious, but not multiple personality disorder. With MPD,
- 38:42Speaker 8: the person usually dissociates from different aspects of their experience,
- 38:47Speaker 8: and usually it's from early trauma, so they have that
- 38:50Speaker 8: kind of very disconnected deer in the headlights.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Stop, what did you say? You know you're in warp
- 38:55Speaker 1: speed for us Mere Mortals, Doctor Bethy. What do you
- 38:58Speaker 1: mean from early trauma? You mean like being beaten or
- 39:02Speaker 1: used as a show pony when you're a child.
- 39:06Speaker 8: Well, actually, that's a very good point. I stand corrected.
- 39:10Speaker 8: But usually it's from sexual trauma or really severe torture
- 39:14Speaker 8: or abuse. The person disconnects from their feelings and thoughts,
- 39:19Speaker 8: so there's the detached quality and they're often not connected
- 39:23Speaker 8: to all parts of themselves, giving the appearance of multiple personalities.
- 39:28Speaker 8: I'll tell you what this big British accent is, Nancy.
- 39:31Speaker 8: It's what we call an affectation. An affectation is when
- 39:35Speaker 8: somebody uses like a word like darling, darling, or overly
- 39:39Speaker 8: complicated language, or commonly a fake British accent to impress
- 39:45Speaker 8: the people around them. So I think what's happening with
- 39:49Speaker 8: Brittany is she's lost her audience. She has huge Instagram following,
- 39:53Speaker 8: she doesn't have that experience of being on a stage
- 39:55Speaker 8: and getting the feedback from the audience. So all of
- 39:58Speaker 8: this fake Britain accent it's a way to pump herself
- 40:02Speaker 8: up in some artificial kind of way, to get the
- 40:06Speaker 8: illusion that she's even more impressive and attractive than she
- 40:11Speaker 8: experiences herself as being.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Well, I want to follow up on the split personality
- 40:16Speaker 1: claims online from a lot of armchair therapists and psychoanalysts
- 40:22Speaker 1: with absolutely no training and no wonder Brittany goes into
- 40:26Speaker 1: hiding if she happens to look online, and we know
- 40:29Speaker 1: she lives online because things like this is this.
- 40:33Speaker 8: Video in Britney spears social media actually a different person
- 40:35Speaker 8: pretending to be her.
- 40:36Speaker 2: We came across multiple different theories.
- 40:38Speaker 3: Including that this is a green screen background, even though
- 40:41Speaker 3: Brittany has taken multiple.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Videos at this spot for years and you can clearly
- 40:44Speaker 2: see the background changes.
- 40:45Speaker 13: You guys really think that's the Britney Spears. That is
- 40:50Speaker 13: Britney Spears. I really am beginning to think that the
- 40:54Speaker 13: conspiracy theorist are the ones that believe that that is,
- 41:00Speaker 13: because I think the majority knows that it's not at
- 41:02Speaker 13: this point.
- 41:03Speaker 1: That was from NBC News TikTok and decoding celebrities on Insta.
- 41:07Speaker 1: So doctor Bethany Marshall the first or one of the
- 41:12Speaker 1: most recent apparent joint driving incidents. Brittany actually went online
- 41:17Speaker 1: and said that that was a look alike. Viewers and
- 41:21Speaker 1: fans are feeding into that, which is feeding into this
- 41:26Speaker 1: claim that she has a split personality. And I guess
- 41:28Speaker 1: the other Brittany is British.
- 41:32Speaker 8: Well, people with conspiracy theories, people want to attribute big
- 41:37Speaker 8: meanings to small causality, meaning this could just simply be
- 41:42Speaker 8: substance abuse, low self esteem, the exaggerated fake British accent
- 41:49Speaker 8: to make herself look better to other people. And that's
- 41:53Speaker 8: just what it is. It's nothing deeper, but they want
- 41:56Speaker 8: to make it deeper.
- 41:57Speaker 1: To Ashley Crispin, joining US veteran try A lawyer, she
- 42:00Speaker 1: is an expert in conservatorships, and guardianships. Is Brittany heading
- 42:07Speaker 1: straight toward another guardianship, a conservatorship, with possibly an intervention
- 42:14Speaker 1: as a speed bump along the way.
- 42:17Speaker 5: It certainly looks like it. It certainly looks like it.
- 42:21Speaker 5: I mean since two thousand and one, when she after
- 42:24Speaker 5: her thirteen plus year conservatorship, there was a low period
- 42:28Speaker 5: where we didn't hear too much from her, and recently
- 42:31Speaker 5: we've been seeing and hearing a lot and it doesn't
- 42:34Speaker 5: look good. And that's what conservatorships and guardianships are all about.
- 42:38Speaker 5: It's helping people who look like who or who are
- 42:41Speaker 5: unable to help themselves, taking rights from people who can't
- 42:45Speaker 5: do it, and giving it to a trusted person to
- 42:47Speaker 5: exercise those rights. And it looks like to me one
- 42:50Speaker 5: of those rights, at least in Florida, where I practice
- 42:53Speaker 5: most of the time, is the right to drive, the
- 42:57Speaker 5: right to have a driver's license. That would be something
- 43:01Speaker 5: that would be certainly hot off the press for me
- 43:03Speaker 5: in a conservatorship if I was handling it.
- 43:06Speaker 1: And to you, Kathy Griffin, private investigator, owner of k
- 43:09Speaker 1: Griff Investigations, Kathy, you have actually been hired or somebody
- 43:15Speaker 1: on your team to babysit or follow someone if they
- 43:20Speaker 1: are heavily drinking, if they are doing drugs. For what
- 43:23Speaker 1: evidence to go toward a conservatorship, that's correct, Nancy.
- 43:28Speaker 9: For children and parents, if they cannot help themselves take
- 43:34Speaker 9: care of themselves, if they have a problem with control.
- 43:38Speaker 9: I mean, obviously she seems to be out of control again,
- 43:42Speaker 9: and I feel like she needs some sort of supervision.
- 43:45Speaker 9: I think again it's a cry for attention, which she
- 43:49Speaker 9: does very well. But you know, yes, we are paid
- 43:52Speaker 9: to get the evidence for the courts so that they
- 43:55Speaker 9: can decide whether one parent or another or that person
- 43:59Speaker 9: needs to be conservatorship or under a certain parent versus
- 44:03Speaker 9: another one.
- 44:03Speaker 1: We remember an American hero, Sergeant Ronald Owen Onita Indian
- 44:08Speaker 1: Nation PDE killed in a line of duty after serving
- 44:11Speaker 1: forty five years, leaving behind a wife turned widow and
- 44:16Speaker 1: grieving son. American hero Sergeant Ronald Owen Nancy Gray signing
- 44:22Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,