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Mega Edition: A First Hand Account Of How Authorities In Florida Fumbled The Epstein Rock (5/15/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In
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this look back episode, we're going to hear from former
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police Chief Michael Rider of the Palm Beach Police Department.
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This article was published by NBC News and it was
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published on September twentieth of two thousand and nineteen. The
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authors of this piece Sarah Fitzpatrick and rich ship Heiro.
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Former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Ryder spent years trying
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to convince state and federal prosecutors in Florida to bring
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serious charges against Jeffrey Epstein. Now, the retired lawman wants
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to tackle a new mission to persuade lawmakers to take
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action to prevent the next Jeffrey Epstein from perverting the
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criminal justice system. Now, Michael Ryder was one one of
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the only good guys, if there were any good guys,
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if you will, in the whole entire Epstein saga, this
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guy listened to what these girls said, compiled a whole
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bunch of evidence, and then turn that evidence over to
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the prosecutors. Now, once the prosecutors have that evidence, it's
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up to them to do the right thing with it.
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Right It's up to them to make sure that they
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get indictments, and then after they get the indictment, it's
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up to them to make sure that these people are convicted.
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So they failed. The prosecutors in Florida failed. The police
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officers in Palm Beach who worked this case originally, they
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did great work. The investigators were all over this. They
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compiled all kinds of evidence. When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein,
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it was the prosecutors once again who decided not to
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pursue it. Epstein found every loophole, writer told NBC News
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as part of a month's long Dayline investigation. I want
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some system in the future that this can't happen again.
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He's not wrong. One of the ongoing conversations we've had
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about these people, all of them, is how they navigate loopholes,
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how they navigate technicalities and somehow harness them always to
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work in their favor. Now, I guess that's what they
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were put into these laws for in the first place, right,
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so the rich people can navigate them and not get
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in trouble when they're the ones who gets slapped with them.
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Like we said previously several times, it's like when you
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have a computer programmer who creates software. They leave themselves
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a little back door so they can access it right.
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Same thing here. They know that the small folk us
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are going to be the ones who have to live
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up to these laws, not them, not their friends. Writers
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said he believes the state and federal prosecutors handling of
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the Epstein case amounts to the worst failure of the
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criminal justice system in modern times. Look, he's not wrong.
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It's the reason we're still talking about this right now.
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It's that impactful, it's that important about how the criminal
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justice system is conducted moving forward. We need something that
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provides equitable law for everybody. If you're a girl from
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the quote unquote other side of the tracks, and you
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say you were abused by a rich and powerful man,
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and there's evidence to back that up, you should be
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listened to. And for way too long, these guys had
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all of their loopholes, all of their technicalities, and they
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were able to navigate the criminal justice system by using
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those and harnessing the relationships that they built with the
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other so called elite, and that amounted to get out
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of jail free cards. The story begins in March of
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two thousand and five, when the Palm Beach Police Department
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received a call from the distraught mother of a fourteen
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year old girl. Now imagine being the cop on the
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other of the other end of that phone call. Uh yeah,
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this is the Palm Beach Police Department, Sergeant Stanton speaking,
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Oh my god, my daughter has been abused by Okay,
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hold on, man, slow down. And then you start processing
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the details and the name that's being dropped, and all
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of a sudden, you know, right away you have yourself
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a big problem because when rich people are accused of
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stuff like this, they automatically strike back, and there's you know,
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problems for the people who bring this stuff up. So
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I'm sure the cops weren't too happy to hear the
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name Jeffrey Epstein. But what I will say about the
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Palm Beach Police Department, they didn't shy away from it.
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They did their job. They did their duty. The woman
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rider recalled said her underage daughter was having sex with
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an adult who lives in a mansion in Palm Beach.
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Palm Beach Police detectives immediately launched an investigation. Yeah, that's
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probably the right thing to do. You got some guy
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living in a mansion and he's having a relationship with
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a fourteen year old girl, probably a good idea to
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launch an investigation. And I don't care who that person
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is in the mansion. I don't care if it is
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the most famous person in the world. You can't be
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abusing children. Okay. So the Palm Beach Police Department, they
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started going hard, and if you know the story, well,
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you know that they really were kicking in some doors
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and asking some very uncomfortable questions. Do you think it's
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just a shock, just a coincidence that this got kicked
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away to the feds and then back down to the
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state level. They wanted it to look like, oh yeah,
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we're gonna take action, We're gonna kick it up to
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the feds, But really they never had any intention of
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the FEDS prosecuting this case. They said, this is credible,
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this is believable, said Ryder, speaking in his first in
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depth TV interview. Our sense, just from sitting in the
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room with the first survivor was that this is something
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we've absolutely got to get on. So right from Jump Street,
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the Palm Beach Police Department knew that this was something
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way bigger. And Michael Ryder, the chief here, he didn't
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spare any expenses, right, He was all over this He
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had his investigators looking into it, chasing down leads, and
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what they uncovered, What they found was terrifying. The interview
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with the initial young girl led to another and another.
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I have no problem telling you everything that I know,
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one of the girls told the police in a videotaped
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interview obtained by NBC News. Another told police that Epstein
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pulled out this vibrator thing and he pulled down my panties. Now,
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remember they only listened to had one girl speak in
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front of the grand jury. Why if all of these
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girls came forward with all of these credible allegations, why
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only have the one girl speak in front of the
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grand jury. That does not make sense. The investigators were
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immediately struck by the consistency of the accounts. Writer said
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the stories were all the same. He said, they all
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could describe the house in detail, they could describe what happened,
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and they didn't know each other. It wasn't like all
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these girls got together and said, all right, we're gonna
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take down Jeffrey Epstein, the guy who lives in the
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mansion down the block. Nobody even knew who Epstein really
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was at this point. He wasn't a celebrity so that
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whole line of thinking has always been garbage to me.
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These were just young kids, high school kids, younger in
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some cases. But the detectives also observed that the accounts
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weren't perfectly aligned. That would have been a red flag
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that the stories were coordinated, were coordinated, writer said. The
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investigators noted something else of significance. Many of the survivors
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didn't know each other, so there was little chance that
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they would have come together to concoct false allegations, and that,
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of course, was the bedrock of Epstein's defense. Right, this
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is all fake. Everyone's looking for a pay day. I'm
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like a piggy bank. Blah blah, blah blah. Within those
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first few weeks, the investigation was already bearing fruit. We
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realized this was basically a way of life for Epstein,
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writer said. And it didn't take long to realize that
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a lot of people were involved in this. This was
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a very prolific sexual predator. Now, listen to what the
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chief of police is saying here, Okay, and this is
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what I always tell you to do. Don't listen to me,
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don't listen to Joe Schmoe, who has the other pots cast.
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Listen to what these policemen say. Listen to what these
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investigators say. Listen to what the survivors say. There were
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a lot of people that were involved in this. This
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was a very prolific sexual predator. That's not someone making
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up a story. That's not some guy who just got
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involved in the case yesterday. That's Michael Ryder, the man
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who investigated this as the police chief in Palm Beach,
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who blew this shit open. He even knows how much
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more and how deeper this goes. Detectives picked through Epstein's
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trash and discovered incriminating messages on scraps of paper documenting
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phone calls. She is wondering if two thirty is okay?
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She needs to stay in school? Red one imagine And
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whoever took that note down is another piece of shit.
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What do you mean she needs to stay in school?
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Why are any school age girls calling Jeffrey Epstein in
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the first place? Note it was clear to police. Where
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about massages and sex? Writers said? And it just wasn't
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phone messages, writer said. Epstein had flowers delivered to one
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of the survivors who was in a performance of performance
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at her high school, congratulating her. At the end of
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the performance. Now, imagine how brazen you must be this
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high school age girl that you're sexually abusing. She has
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this high school performance, and you send her flowers. Now,
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I know if I was the dad of that girl,
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there would be problems, conversations would be had. This dirty
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son of a bitch was so brazen in his behavior,
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so brazen in his activity, that he would send flowers
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to a girl after her performance. NBC News has spoken
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with nearly two dozen women who alleged that Epstein didn't
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operate alone. Writer said, the investigation identified adult women who
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had sexual contact with underage girls and in some cases,
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performed sexual battery on children. This was a financially successful,
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smart capable, well networked, and well financed individual who built
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an organization around him that supported his criminal enterprise. Writer said, Now,
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if you're wondering why I always talk about Rico and
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how this isn't a Rico case, folks, what more do
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you need? I mean, honestly, and again, this is another
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reason why I've chosen the format that I have chosen
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to follow along with these articles. That way, everything is uniformed.
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It's not me making this stuff up right, or oh,
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this is just a guest by me. This is from
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curating all of these articles and following all of this
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evidence and listening to what the key players had to
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say for me, survivors, lawyers, and the law enforcement agents
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on the ground, not the jerk offs in the back room,
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not the cap of the world, guys like Michael Ryder.
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And when you listen to what they have to say,
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it is rather obvious that this was a criminal enterprise
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that should have been recoed and everybody involved should have
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seen a prison cell. But as the months wore on,
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with police building their case, odd things began to happen.
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When detectives armed with a search warrant entered his home
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with a video camera. What they found made them suspect
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he had been tipped off. The place had been cleaned up.
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Riders said. It wasn't completely devoid of evidence, but a
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computer that contained all of the home surveillance camera footage
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was gone and all the wires were left hanging there.
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Riders said, so they did a dump and pump came in,
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ripped everything out real quick, all of the monitoring equipment
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because somebody in the government tipped them off, one of
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their buddies. But nah, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't connected, He wasn't
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an asset. After six months of investigation, Riders said, the
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local police department noticed the shift in attitude from the
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state prosecutors. Riders said the prosecutors told them the witnesses
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were not credible. The prosecutors, Rider said, suddenly seemed dismissive
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of the case and were uncooperative in approving critical investigative
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techniques that hindered the Palm Beach Police Department's investigation. No shit,
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no shit, they were. These guys were working behind the
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scenes with Epstein's lawyers to make sure this went nowhere,
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or at the very least, make sure Epstein got just
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a little smack on the ass. No real jail time,
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thirteen months in a stockade. Are you kidding me? Right now?
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I've had punishments for my parents that were worse than that. Epstein,
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who had a massive bankroll and extensive connections, had assembled
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a high powered team of lawyers, including Kenneth Starr, Alan Dershowitz,
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Jack Goldberger, and Jay left Kuwitz. Around this time, Rider
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said the investigation took another strange turn. Epstein's defense team
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seem to know details about the probe before they were
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made public. Whoa what do you know? Just take your
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pick from Ken Starr, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger, or Jay
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left Quitz about who could have manipulated their influence, their
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relationships behind the scenes to turn it into something like this. Folks,
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we talk about it all the time. When you go
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to Harvard and you get your law degree and then
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you're practicing law, people aren't really paying you because you
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went to Harvard, per se. They're paying you because now
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you have access to all of the other scoundrels who
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went to Harvard, So you have inside connections, you have access,
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and that's what you're paying for. When you get a
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high profile lawyer, Your lawyers are going out to eat dinner,
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and who knows what else with these prosecutors down here
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in Florida at least, and at the federal level when
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we're talking about Mukasey and the others, and then we
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wonder why Epstein doesn't get punished like the rest of
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us would. How many of you gotten an invite to
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go play around to eighteen with insert federal official here.
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We believe that the content of our probable cause Affidavid. Eventually,
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sometime after we presented it to the State's attorney's office
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ended up with the defense. Attorney's writer said because minute
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details that nobody else knew that were in those documents
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were being refuted and contrary information provided by the defense,
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this writer said, never happened to me before in my career.
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And this is a guy again, he's in Palm Beach
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dealing with rich, powerful people. Never in his life as
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he dealt with something like this, however, But no, continue
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to tell me that Epstein wasn't getting hooked up, that
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nobody was there helping him make sure that the walls
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don't fall in, and then tell me that this wasn't
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a Rico case. Writer was so frustrated that he took
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the unusual step of asking the state Attorney, Barry Krisher,
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to remove himself from the case, citing the office highly
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unusual treatment of the investigation. When that didn't work, the
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police chief chief turned his evidence over to the FBI.
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And you would think, right, the g men are coming.
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This is awesome, all right, perfect, the FBI. They're going
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to save the day. And look, don't get it twisted again, folks.
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I'm not talking about your average agent that's working his
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tailoff or her tail off to try and keep us safe.
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There's a lot of those people that are going after
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some horrible, fucking criminals. My problem isn't with them. My
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problem is with the command structure, the bureaucracy that runs
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this whole entire monolith. They look at us like we're
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just numbers, Like we don't matter as far as you know,
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the citizens of this country, and they feel like they've
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been given the charter to do as they wish. And
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how many times do we see good agents like or
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good cops in this instance, like Mike Ryder gets screwed
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by prosecutors and these federal minions at the Department of Justice,
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those are the people I have a problem with, not
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the rank and file. And they said, this is an
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easy case, this is a horrific situation. We'll put them
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away for the rest of his life. Writer recalled, that's
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what the US Attorney assistant US attorney told us as well.
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But writers renewed enthusiasm didn't last long. In time, it
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became clear that the federal probe was stalling. Though he
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believes the FBI agents were invested in the case. Writer
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arranged to meet face to face with the prosecutor in
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charge of the case, US Attorney alex I have no spine, bitch,
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ass Acosta. Acosta would go on to be named US
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Labor Secretary under President Donald Trump. Another brilliant move by
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old Trump. Huh, alex Acosta, I mean, and you don't
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have this conversation with him, and then even if you do,
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you still go through with it. There's not a better
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person in the whole entire country that could have been
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Labor secretary. Huh. But I have to say this, I'm
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thankful that Trump, in a weird way put him there,
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because if alex Acosta wasn't in this position, and there
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weren't you know, a bit of politicism happening around this,
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we probably would have never had the second arrest of
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Epstein because would Julie Brown really been as interested if
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this didn't have the political been to it, if it
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wasn't a Trump appointee. Again, maybe I don't know. We
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can't tell one way or the other. The future was
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what it was. But I have a funny feeling that
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if it wasn't for Trump appointing alex Acosta as Labor
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Secretary in a weird way, we would have never been
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at the point we are now the conversation, writer said,
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did not get off to a promise start. He basically said,
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in a very measured manner that the defense in the
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case has successfully delayed and frustrated their investigation and their
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prosecution of the case. Writer said, so, when's the last
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time the federal government has been frustrated and had their
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case delayed? Zero chance. It doesn't happen unless they wanted
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to happen. But Rider left Acosta's office hoping for the
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best after the prosecutor told him they were moving forward
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with the investigation. I left that meeting thinking, this guy
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hopefully is going to do his job. Writer said, it
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didn't turn out the way a Rider had hoped. In
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two thousand and seven, Acosta made the decision not to
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charge Epstein in federal court. Instead, he sent the case
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back to the local prosecutors. Now, again, I don't think
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this was a costa on his own. You can't make
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this decision as a mid level bureaucrat. This was a
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decision that was made on high and Acosta was just
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the trigger man. Ryder was crushed. The same office that
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seemingly refused to pursue Epstein aggressively was now back in charge.
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And again you could say, oh, this is a coincidence.
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It's just you know, the way things happen sometimes. But
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there sure are a lot of coincidences around Jeffrey Epstein.
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Isn't there the cameras, the missing emails, all of this nonsense.
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At what point is it not coincidence? And is it
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just what it is? Acosta agreed to sign a non
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prosecution deal that ended the federal sex crimes investigation and
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spared Epstein the prospect of serving several years in prison. Instead,
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Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges for soliciting a minor
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for prostitution and served thirteen months at Palm Beach County Jail.
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Epstein was also required to register as a sex offender
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and pay his rested to his survivors. Eh didn't have
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to register in New Mexico. Huh, I've never seen anything
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like it. Ryder said it was extremely unusual and disappointing.
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Ryder said he believes the result would have been different
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had the victims been underage boys. That would have shocked
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the senses more. A writer said, somehow this hits in
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a different place that they were young women on the
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way to being women, and he's not really wrong about that. Yeah,
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how many people have set these girls up as prostitutes?
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Or why do they keep coming back the brain dead
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narrative that they wanted this to happen. You know, the
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same folks that will say, oh, well, she was wearing
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a mini skirt, so way more nuanced than that. When
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you have all of the different things that went in
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to grooming these girls and normalizing all of this, it's
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a whole different ballgame. But he's not wrong. Boys would
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have really shocked the emotions and shocked the senses. Epstein
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was released from jail in the summer of two thousand
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and nine, The case scene behind him until twenty and eighteen,
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when The Miami Herald published an expose highlighting the government's
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kid glove treating of a man accused of praying on
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dozens of underage girls. Acosta defended the way his office
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handled what he described as a complicated case. We believe
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we proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty nineteen
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press conference. We did what we did because we wanted
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to see Epstein go to jail. So you mean to
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tell me the federal government couldn't have done that if
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you really wanted to see and again, let me back up,
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you might want to see him go to jail. We
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want to see him go to prison, okay, and you
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not running the federal charges. You and your bosses taking
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the step back that made sure that Epstein was never
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going to federal prison. But Acosta resigned as litt Oh
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excuse me. Acosta defended the way his office handled what
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he described as a complicated case. We believed we proceeded appropriately,
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Acosta said during a July twenty nineteen press conference. We
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did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein
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go to jail. But Acosta resigned as Labor Secretary two
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days later amid mounting criticism. Krisher, the former state attorney,
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didn't return a request for comment from MDC News, but
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he relates a statement in July defending his office and
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pushing back against Acosta, suggesting that state prosecutors were driving
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the case. Nobody wants to take responsibility ever, right, It's
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always somebody else's fault. It's always someone else who did
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something wrong. In reality, the Feds fucked up and the
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state fucked up. If mister Acosta was truly concerned with
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the state's case and felt he had to rescue the matter.
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He would have moved forward with the fifty three page
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indictment that his own office was once drafted, Chrisher said.
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Epstein was arrested on fresh charges in July. New York
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federal prosecutors charged him with its sex trafficking and conspiracy
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in a case that featured similar allegations to those a
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decade earlier. Never far enough right? How again, how isn't
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this rico considering not what I said to you, but
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what Michael Ryder laid out to you just previously in
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this article. Epstein pleaded not guilty, but he committed suicide
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in his federal jail cell last month. The death left
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Rider thinking about the survivors and their lost chance to
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see him held accountable. I feel so badly for the survivors,
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writer said, I realize that there's a Catharsis in confronting Epstein,
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and they'll never have that opportunity. But he hopes that
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the entirety of the case will lead to systemic change.
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The criminal justice system needs to learn from this and
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make sure it can't happen again, said Ryder, who still
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lives in Palm Beach, where he runs a security consulting firm.
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Writer wants to see legislation that bars miners from being
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labeled as prostitutes in the justice system. He also called
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on Florida lawmakers to close loopholes that allow people like
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Epstein to get away with misdemeanors for child sex crimes.
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I mean, is he wrong? Does a cop, a former cop,
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have to call for this? Why wouldn't our politicians, the
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ones who make the laws, do it themselves. Oh, they're
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the ones who put this law in the books. Oh
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that's right. If you look at the first dozen victims
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and their accounts of what happened to them, it's clear
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to me he was coached by a lawyer on how
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to only commit a misdemeanor. Writer said, if you're a
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member of the legislature and you're listening to this right now,
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fix this. It needs to be fixed. And I'm guessing
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that lawyer. I don't have proof of this, but I'm
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guessing it was Darren endyke. Rider also delivered a message
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to all of those girls whose lives were upended by
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a middle aged sexual predator with endless resources available to him.
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I don't have any contact with the survivors, and if
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they're listening now, I'm embarrassed for the way the criminal
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justice system treated them back then. And Florida writer said,
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but I want them to know that not every part
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of the system failed them. We did our job in
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Palm Beach and at the Palm Beach Police Department, and
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everything that happens here should lead to in the future,
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if any of these things happen again to some other victim,
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that the system won't fail them. And I'd like to
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believe that, but man, I have a hard time believing it, folks.
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I am very cynical about our justice system, as you
26:38
all know, and the more I see, the more cynical
26:43
I become. So While I hope that Michael Rider's plea
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will find its way to the ears of our legislators,
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for some reason, I still have my doubts. If you'd
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like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
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Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b b Y
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c ap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can
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also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap
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U c CI. The link that we discussed can be
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found in the description box. Hello everyone and Welcome to
27:20
the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Capucci, and
27:25
this is a morning update. We're going to talk a
27:28
little bit more about the report that the prosecutors showed
27:33
to the survivors on Thursday, and coming out of that report,
27:39
we have another bit of information that is absolutely ridiculous,
27:44
and it just goes to show that the Department of
27:46
Justice itself is a shit show. These people they don't
27:51
they don't give a damn about anything. All they care
27:53
about is increasing their power and pushing whatever sort of
27:57
political narrative that they're injecting their stupid heads. We have
28:04
a report that one of Jeffreys Epstein's attorneys dated one
28:10
of the prosecutors in the trial. So how in the
28:14
world can anyone look at this and think that these
28:18
gals got a fair shake. The survivors got absolutely screwed
28:25
by the prosecutors in Florida and the federal prosecutors as
28:30
a whole. And now let's remember what we're talking about here.
28:34
In the first case, we're talking about young high school
28:37
girls from Palm Beach mostly, and this scumbag was able
28:45
to just walk and skate and get off And you
28:48
mean to tell me that we're just supposed to ignore
28:52
all of his connections, We're supposed to ignore all of
28:56
the relationships that his lawyers have had no pun intended,
29:01
and we're just supposed to ignore the fact that he
29:04
was so close to such a power broker like Bill Clinton. Now,
29:07
remember we're talking about two thousand and eight. Still, Bill
29:10
Clinton was still a big time power player on the scene,
29:13
and Hillary Clinton was getting ready to have a job
29:15
in Barack Obama's administration. These are very, very powerful people
29:22
that were close to Jeffrey Epstein, and at every turn
29:26
he was able to gain the system, and he was
29:30
able to be afforded a certain set of rights and
29:36
favors that normal people would never ever, ever, ever be
29:42
afforded if they were caught up in the same circumstances.
29:47
And the new information here about one of his attorneys
29:51
dating a prosecutor is just it's just more nonsense to
29:56
add to the top of the nonsense mountain. How on
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the hell is a prosecutor who dated one of his
30:06
attorneys not recused from the case? How is this person
30:11
even still working on the case, And how does the
30:14
Department of Justice find in their shitty ass internal review
30:19
that just a couple of mistakes were made. Now, I
30:23
don't think the Department of Justice expected the outcry over
30:28
their information that they released, right, I don't think that
30:33
they expected there to be this much of a blowback.
30:36
But what they need to understand is people have had
30:39
enough and we're no longer going to just sit by
30:42
silently while the Department of Justice drags its feet and
30:47
does not pursue the people that need to be pursued.
30:53
We'll be here every single day. We'll be talking about it,
30:55
we'll be raising hell, and they're not going to be
30:59
able to ignore us. One voice, sure, millions of us. Impossibility.
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So we just have to keep the pressure on, and
31:06
we have to keep asking these kinds of questions. How
31:09
the hell is a prosecutor who is supposedly going after
31:13
Jeffrey Epstein? How is he not recusing himself or being
31:17
replaced by his superiors knowing that he had a relationship
31:20
with one of Epstein's lawyers. It is ridiculous that this
31:30
guy was not recused all right, So our article today
31:35
is from the New York Post headline Epstein's attorney dated
31:39
the prosecutor in trial where he got a sweetheart deal
31:43
I mean, how is that not looked upon by the
31:49
Department of Justice as something that is just unbelievably unacceptable.
31:59
You can't have this guy as one of the prosecutors
32:02
while at the same time dating one of Epstein's lawyers. There,
32:06
what do you think there's no conflict of interest there?
32:09
How do we know that this dude isn't throwing sweetheart deals?
32:12
Many of men have fallen under the spell of a
32:15
beautiful woman. This article was posted excuse me, authored by
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Paula Frolick. It was a sweetheart deal that has baffled
32:28
the world. How In two thousand and eight, Jeffrey Epstein
32:32
was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser felony prostitution charge,
32:36
register as a sex offender, and served just thirteen months
32:39
in a county jail where he could come and go
32:42
during the day, despite several underage survivors testifying he raped them.
32:49
So right off the bat, you said to yourself, what
32:52
in the hell this guy scored this sweetheart deal while
32:55
at the same time one of the prosecutors was dating
32:58
one of his attorneys right on the right off the bat.
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That looks bad. And that's before you even add in
33:05
all of the other stuff. Right, So again, all these
33:10
little nuggets, all these little pieces of information, all of
33:13
these little puzzle pieces, when they're fitted together, they start
33:18
they start to draw a much darker picture than if
33:22
we were just looking at these things as one offs. Right,
33:25
every look. One offs happen in shit in cases, right,
33:29
every now and then there's a coincidence. But this case
33:33
is littered with all sorts of shit that is just
33:38
completely and utterly backwards. The Department of Justice has been
33:47
almost complicit in all of this, in my opinion, and
33:50
there needs to be some repercussions for people who are involved.
33:55
I have I'm very I'm very strong in that belief.
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It's now been revealed that one of Epstein's defense attorneys
34:05
previously dated one of the top prosecutors on the deal.
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I don't even honestly, I don't even know what to
34:12
say about that right now. It's just so it's so sad.
34:19
I guess I should say that the Department of Justice
34:21
has sat on this information for ten years. They've known
34:23
this stuff for ten years, and it's just coming out now.
34:29
They're an embarrassment, and Bill Barr is the biggest embarrassment
34:32
of all I know a lot of you out there listening.
34:35
Are you under the impression that Bill Barr is pursuing
34:40
people on behalf of justice? And that is not the case.
34:44
Bill Barr is a political hack, He's a retread. He's
34:49
been in Washington, d C. Forever. He is exactly what
34:53
Trump was talking about when he talked about swamp monsters.
34:56
But yet somehow Trump brings Bar in shell game. I
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don't trust any of these people. The last politician I
35:03
trusted was Ron Paul. Lillianne Sanchez was a member of
35:09
Epstein's defense team in two thousand and eight when he
35:12
was facing a potential federal indictment and life imprisonment for
35:15
sexually abusing dozens of girls between nineteen ninety nine and
35:19
two thousand and seven. I mean, I know it's an
35:24
uncomfortable question to ask in all, but did this relationship
35:28
have any sway on what mister Menchell did? Did it
35:32
have any were there any Was there any pressure by
35:38
miss Sanchez to get a favorable deal for her client. Look,
35:43
we know that stuff like that occurs. We know that
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people like Menchell, who get caught up in our relationship
35:52
with a beautiful young woman can easily be manipulated. Now again,
35:59
I'm not saying that occurred. I don't know. I wasn't there,
36:02
I wasn't hanging out with them while they were talking about,
36:05
you know, whatever it is they're talking about. But I
36:09
think that when you look at everything that went on
36:13
in this case, there are so many unanswered questions that
36:16
we can't leave any avenue on explored. Sanchez had also
36:22
did in Matthew Mintchell, one of the prosecutors who worked
36:25
on the plea deal. So this miss Sanchez has quite
36:31
the bit of a dating going on in her realm
36:36
of work. Me personally, yeah, I don't think it's a
36:40
good idea to be dipping the old pen in company, inc.
36:44
If you get my drift. And that's in any sort
36:48
of situation, never mind a job like this where you're
36:52
dealing with serious, serious matters. We're dealing with Jeffrey Epstein,
36:57
for Lord's sake, and this lady who is one of
37:00
his attorneys is having an affair with the prosecutor and
37:06
someone involved in the plea deal. How many people is
37:08
this lady having an affair with? Is it all a
37:10
coincidence or was she targeting these people? Is your the
37:14
romance came to light after the Justice Department Office of
37:17
Professional Responsibility OPR issued a report this week slamming the
37:22
Florida prosecutors for poor judgment and the Pedal Pervs deal.
37:26
Poor judgment is absolutely a understatement. Okay, poor judgment, This
37:35
was dereliction of duty. I got your poor judgment, as
37:39
Tony Soprano would say, I got your poor judgment right
37:42
here in miass. I mean, are you kidding me right now?
37:47
Sanchez and Manchell dated in two thousand and three when
37:51
they were both employed at the Southern District of Florida's
37:54
US Attorney's office. They later broke up but never disclosed
37:58
the relationship while both worked on the Epstein deal. Bam
38:01
right there, that alone should get the deal thrown out. Folks.
38:05
I'm telling you right now, with all of this stuff
38:07
that's coming out, the Eleventh Circuit Corps Circuit Appeals Court
38:11
is going to have a field day with this shit.
38:15
I said earlier that I thought it was a better
38:17
than good chance that the non prosecution agreement agreement gets overturned.
38:22
I'm accelerating that. I'm saying a very good chance at
38:25
this point, because the Eleventh Circuit Circuit Court of Appeals
38:30
is going to see all of this information too. They're
38:32
going to have everything in front of them, and they're
38:34
going to make their decision based on everything that has
38:38
been presented to them and everything that could be found
38:41
by their clerks or whatever the hell they have going on.
38:45
But the point is this is really bad for the
38:48
Prosecutor's office. And while they might not face sanctions by
38:51
the Department of Justice, I have a funny feeling the
38:54
Eleventh Circuit is going to come down hard with an
38:57
iron fist on these people. The report says Manchell had
39:04
left the office before the Epstein case was resolved. Menchell
39:08
told Justice Department investigators during the probe that his relationship
39:12
with Sanchez had no impact on his handling of the case.
39:15
Oh yeah, I'm sure had no handling at all. You're
39:19
just you could never fall to the charms of a woman.
39:21
H Mister Minchell, You're just better than the rest of us. Obviously,
39:26
give me a break. We all know that Jeffrey Epstein
39:29
was running a honey trap. This could have just been
39:32
another portion of that honey trap, another way to pierce
39:35
the veil and get somebody on the inside. What where,
39:41
We don't think that Epstein and his people are that devious.
39:44
Come on, folks, this is exactly what they do. This
39:46
is in their wheelhouse. So mister Menchell here, he should
39:50
be brought under oath and he should have to talk
39:52
about what occurred, because I have a sneaking suspicion that
39:57
he has not been too forthright out his tryst with
40:02
miss Sanchez here. Letting a well connected billionaire get away
40:07
with child rape and international sex trafficking isn't poor judgment.
40:12
It is a disgusting failure. Senator Ben Sass said in
40:16
a statement released on Thursday. Americans ought to be enraged.
40:20
Epstein should be riding behind bars today, but the just
40:23
US Department failed Epstein survivors at every turn. Well, mister Sas,
40:28
I'm here to report to you, sir, the Americans are enraged,
40:31
and guess what, You're in a position to do something
40:34
about it. So do you want to become a hero
40:37
in this story? Do you want to become somebody that
40:40
both sides of the aisle can look up to, like
40:42
the old days when we actually we actually had a
40:44
political system that worked. If that's who you want to be,
40:48
mister Sas, now's the time step forward. Demand hearings and
40:55
demand that these people be brought to justice. Epstein was
41:02
found hanging in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center
41:05
in Manhattan last August while awaiting trial on new sex
41:09
trafficking charges. You see how the Post doesn't say, oh,
41:11
he committed suicide, And if you notice, certain outlets don't
41:15
come out and say, well, he committed suicide. They'll say
41:19
found hanging in his cell or found dead in his cell.
41:22
And I think that that is good quality journalism because
41:25
at the end of the day, we don't know what
41:27
happened in that cell. So to assert that he definitely
41:32
hung himself or to assert that he was definitely murdered,
41:36
we just don't have all of those details yet. But
41:38
it is something that needs to be discussed obviously. Now
41:44
I think that Ben Sass getting sassy about all of
41:48
this is a definite good thing. It's a step in
41:50
the right direction. But they need to be more forceful
41:53
about it. The Congress, the Senate, they need to come
41:56
out and they need to take a stand against this
41:58
shit and let people like Epstein and those who were
42:02
running this operation behind the scenes, those who were working
42:06
with Epstein and those who were financing Epstein, that this
42:10
shit is never going to happen again in this country.
42:13
And if you took part in this, if you enabled this,
42:17
if you were involved with Jeffrey Epstein financially, then you
42:22
are in the crosshairs as well. That is a message
42:26
that needs to be sent. It needs to be sent strongly,
42:29
and it needs to be sent now. If you'd like
42:34
to contact me, you could do that at Bobby Kapuchi
42:36
at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap Cci at
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ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on Twitter
42:45
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