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#1 NYT Bestseller, plus Al Sayed Embraces 9/11 Truthers & China CAUGHT in Massive Espionage · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome it is verdict with senator ted cruz ben ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you senator i tell you what it's been a
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  Speaker 1: really fun week it got a lot more fun on
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  Speaker 1: wednesday congratulations uh it is official you are now a
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  Speaker 1: number one new york times best-selling author while being a
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  Speaker 1: u.s senator i gotta say it's pretty impressive well done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this was a very, very good week. Last week,
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  Speaker 2: my brand new book came out. It's called Going Further,
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  Speaker 2: The Incomparable Clarence Thomas. It's a biography of Justice Thomas, who,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, has been a friend of mine for
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  Speaker 2: 30 years. He was a guest on the Verdict podcast.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you have not watched that interview,
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  Speaker 2: it was an hour and 20 minute interview I did
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  Speaker 2: with Justice Thomas. It is the one and only podcast
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  Speaker 2: Justice Thomas has ever done. You can watch it on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: And I would highly recommend it. It was a fascinating
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  Speaker 2: and wonderful interview. And the book, this week on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: the new New York Times bestseller list came out, and
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  Speaker 2: the book is the number one bestselling book in the
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  Speaker 2: entire country. And that's the first time all five books
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  Speaker 2: I've written have been New York Times bestsellers, but I've
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  Speaker 2: never had a number one. And so that's really gratifying.
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  Speaker 2: A whole lot of people, I think, are enjoying the book.
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  Speaker 2: I did a rally this week up in Fort Worth.
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  Speaker 1: And it was great.
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  Speaker 2: A whole bunch of people had bought the book and
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  Speaker 2: brought it to the event. I think people are really
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  Speaker 2: enjoying the book, and it's a big, big threshold. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about that a little more. We're also
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about the 25th anniversary of September 11th
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  Speaker 2: that is coming up, and at the same time as
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  Speaker 2: the 25th anniversary of 9-11, Abdul Al-Sayyad, the radical Islamist
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  Speaker 2: candidate in Michigan, is participating in a conference with Radical
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  Speaker 2: clerics with people who justify and give excuses for the
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  Speaker 2: terror attack on the United States on 9-11. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to break that down and actually go through the long
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  Speaker 2: history Abdul Al-Sayed has of tweets that are just astonishing
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  Speaker 2: about September 11th. He's deleted all of his old tweets,
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  Speaker 2: but the Internet is forever. And when you try to
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  Speaker 2: delete something, it doesn't go away. We're going to bring
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  Speaker 2: you back to those and walk through just how extreme
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  Speaker 2: and anti-American this particular candidate is. And then we're also
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about China. Chinese espionage, Chinese spying. Chinese
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  Speaker 2: spying here in the United States, not far away, but
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  Speaker 2: here in America. Multiple instances of Chinese spying, Chinese ships
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  Speaker 2: spying on military bases, intercepting communications. Chinese nationals engaged in
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  Speaker 2: espionage here in the United States, and even an American
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  Speaker 2: citizen pleading guilty to being a Chinese spy here in America.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to break all of that down on today's pod.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's going to be a very, very
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  Speaker 1: let's just go back to the excitement. Where were you
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  Speaker 1: and how did you find out that you finally have
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  Speaker 1: a number one New York Times bestselling book? I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who was more excited, by the way, if it
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  Speaker 1: was me or you, because I was stalking it all
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  Speaker 1: day on Wednesday and hoping that it was number one.
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  Speaker 1: It's every author's dream. You've done, what is it, your
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  Speaker 1: fifth book? I did one. Even just being a bestseller
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  Speaker 1: is amazing, but being number one is a whole nother level.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Ben, you're hurting my feelings with
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  Speaker 2: that word, finally.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there.
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  Speaker 2: Seems to be a whole lot of judgment there. You're
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  Speaker 2: casting some serious aspersions on my first four books. I
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  Speaker 2: liked the first four. I thought they were good books.
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  Speaker 2: They sold well. But I think the highest I'd ever
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  Speaker 2: made was number five on the list. So number one
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  Speaker 2: was gratifying. And look, this book really was a labor
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  Speaker 2: of love. The reason I wrote it is because Justice Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: I think, is an American hero. And he's someone whose
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  Speaker 2: story is inspiring. And a lot of people don't know it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of Americans don't know his story coming from
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  Speaker 2: abject poverty, facing just withering racism, and rising to the
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  Speaker 2: very top, the pinnacle of American law. But also his
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  Speaker 2: ideological journey, going from being an angry left-wing radical to
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  Speaker 2: one of the most conservative thinkers in history. And the
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  Speaker 2: book tries to do both of those and at the
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  Speaker 2: same time take his more than 30 years of jurisprudence
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  Speaker 2: and explain it. Explain it in terms that are understandable.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to be a lawyer. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to be a constitutional law expert. It's designed to make
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  Speaker 2: you understand why it matters. Right now today, Clarence Thomas
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  Speaker 2: is the second longest-serving Supreme Court justice in history. In
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  Speaker 2: less than two years, he'll be the longest-serving justice in history,
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  Speaker 2: and he has written opinions over the decades that are
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  Speaker 2: profoundly consequential on issues ranging from race. There has been
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  Speaker 2: no more important justice in the Supreme Court writing on
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  Speaker 2: issues of race and the Constitution's protections against racial discrimination
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  Speaker 2: by government than Clarence Thomas. And that, the book explains
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  Speaker 2: at great length. He has written, obviously, on abortion and
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  Speaker 2: Roe versus Wade. He has written on the Second Amendment,
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  Speaker 2: the right to keep and bear arms. He has written
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  Speaker 2: a great deal on Reconstruction and the fundamental rights of Americans.
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  Speaker 2: And he's also written, there's an extensive discussion of his
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  Speaker 2: opinion in the Kelo case. So the Kelo case was
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  Speaker 2: a case where the court upheld a city taking a
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  Speaker 2: woman's private home, not for public use, but instead for
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  Speaker 2: a parking lot for Pfizer, the giant pharmaceutical company. And
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  Speaker 2: Justice Thomas dissented in Kelo when he wrote in his opinion,
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  Speaker 2: the Constitution says you can take private property for, quote,
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  Speaker 2: public use. the Supreme Court over the years had basically
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  Speaker 2: changed the words public use to public purpose. And Justice
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  Speaker 2: Thomas said, look, that's not what the Constitution says. Public
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  Speaker 2: use means you can take a house, say, if you're
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  Speaker 2: building a road or a highway or a school or
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  Speaker 2: a library, something that's a government building that the public
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  Speaker 2: is using. But the argument here was not that the
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  Speaker 2: public was going to use it, but essentially that there
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  Speaker 2: was a broad public purpose in taking this poor woman's
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  Speaker 2: house because a parking lot would be more valuable to
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  Speaker 2: the community. And Justice Thomas says, look, that's contrary to
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  Speaker 2: the words of the Constitution. What's interesting that I write
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  Speaker 2: about in the book is even though in that particular case,
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  Speaker 2: and Justice Thomas has dissented in many cases, he won
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  Speaker 2: by losing because his dissent was persuasive. And many, many states,
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  Speaker 2: including Texas, have passed laws that now put into law
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  Speaker 2: that you cannot take private property for public purpose only
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  Speaker 2: for public use. His dissent was more persuasive than the majority's.
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  Speaker 2: And a prediction I've made, if a case comes challenging Kelo,
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  Speaker 2: the court will overturn it now. It will embrace Thomas's
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  Speaker 2: dissent as it has in so many other areas.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Senator, let's get into Abdul El-Said. He is
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  Speaker 1: going to join a panel. And the anniversary, an important anniversary,
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  Speaker 1: the 25th anniversary of 9-11 is coming up. He is
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  Speaker 1: going to join a panel with 9-11 conspiracy theorists at
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  Speaker 1: an Islamic convention. Now, this convention clearly is being done
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  Speaker 1: just days before the 9-11 anniversary. Obviously, they chose that
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  Speaker 1: on purpose. But I cannot believe that more are not
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Democratic Michigan Senate nominee and what he
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  Speaker 1: is scheduled to speak at and who's around him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got to say it. The Democrats running for
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  Speaker 2: Senate across the country seem to be competing with each
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  Speaker 2: other in terms of who can be more radical, more extreme,
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  Speaker 2: more out of the mainstream. On Wednesday's podcast, we covered
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  Speaker 2: James Tallarico, the extreme left-wing Democrat running for Senate in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: And in particular, we uncovered The Zoom call he did
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  Speaker 2: six years ago with left-wing activists from the Sierra Club
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  Speaker 2: where he pledged to, quote, dismantle capitalism.
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  Speaker 1: These guys are.
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  Speaker 2: radicals and extreme. Well, Abdul Al-Sayed basically said to Telerico,
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  Speaker 2: hold my beer, I can be more extreme than you can.
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  Speaker 2: And the story you just noted, so this coming week,
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  Speaker 2: is the 25th anniversary of September 11th. That was the
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  Speaker 2: most horrific terror attack on the homeland in American history.
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  Speaker 2: And instead of honoring that attack, instead of honoring the
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  Speaker 2: nearly 3,000 lives that were taken that day, Abdul El-Sayed
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  Speaker 2: is speaking at an Islamic conference that is essentially defending
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  Speaker 2: the attackers. Here, I'm going to read to you a
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  Speaker 2: story from the Washington Free Beacons. Democratic Senator, Michigan Senate
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  Speaker 2: nominee Abdul El-Sayed is scheduled to speak at an Islamic
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  Speaker 2: convention this weekend, six days before the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
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  Speaker 2: On a panel alongside a quote 9-11 truther and a
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  Speaker 2: Muslim cleric conspiracy theorist who has called for an examination
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  Speaker 2: of the official narrative surrounding the terrorist attacks. El-Sayed is
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  Speaker 2: headlining the Islamic Society of North America's annual convention in
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  Speaker 2: Detroit on Saturday. There, El-Said will speak on a panel
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  Speaker 2: to examine a, quote, turmoil to America, alongside left-wing pundits
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  Speaker 2: Sent Uygur and Zaid Shakir, an outspoken New Jersey-based cleric.
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  Speaker 2: Both men have promoted conspiracy theories surrounding 9-11, in which
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  Speaker 2: Al-Qaeda operatives killed 2,977 Americans. Quote, I no longer believe
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  Speaker 2: the official 9-11 story. Ugyur declared in a social media
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  Speaker 2: rant in February. Ugyur, who hosts the Young Turks YouTube show,
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  Speaker 2: is now pushing debunked claims about Israeli involvement. Because, of course,
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  Speaker 2: Israel is the one that committed 9-11. Don't you know that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, these guys are radicals and kooks. Including the, quote,
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  Speaker 2: dancing Israelis myth, an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that posits that
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  Speaker 2: five Israeli spies filmed and celebrated the terrorist attack. Quote,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know we arrested Israeli spies who were here
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  Speaker 2: to document the event, wrote Ugyur, who is the uncle
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  Speaker 2: of Hassan Piker, a close al-Said ally who has said
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  Speaker 2: that America deserved 9-11. Boy, I didn't know that. Did
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  Speaker 2: you know that Sank Ugyur is the uncle of Hassan Piker?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I did know that only because I've
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  Speaker 1: had to deal with him so many times. You know, he...
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  Speaker 1: He had to go on Piers Morgan's show and do
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  Speaker 1: a mea culpa after losing it when he was debating
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  Speaker 1: me recently over the issue of Israel, oddly enough, because
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  Speaker 1: he's absolutely obsessed with Israel and anyone that supports Israel.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the hate comes from within the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party. By the way, that clip when it went
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  Speaker 1: completely viral, Piers brought him back to try to rehabilitate himself,
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  Speaker 1: and then he doubled down on it, which was even funnier.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Hassan Piker, who's campaigned alongside Abdul Al-Sayed, said America
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  Speaker 2: deserved 9-11, he's the nephew of Sankogir, who now Abdul
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  Speaker 2: Sayyed is sitting on the panel with, Ogir was widely mocked,
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  Speaker 2: as one outlet described it, for going full 9-11 truther. Similarly,
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  Speaker 2: Shakir has called for a, quote, examination of what he
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  Speaker 2: describes as glaring weaknesses and inconsistencies in the official 9-11 narrative.
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  Speaker 2: He has argued that the U.S. government used the attacks to, quote,
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  Speaker 2: launch a war on Islam. And he directed followers to
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  Speaker 2: the writing of David Ray Giffen, a leading 9-11 conspiracy theorist,
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  Speaker 2: who has argued that the United States orchestrated the attacks. Look,
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  Speaker 2: these people are kooks. This guy is standing there going, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the American government is the one that knocked down the
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  Speaker 2: World Trade Center. The American government is the one that
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  Speaker 2: attacked the Pentagon. But they're not just kooks. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just crazy. It's not just thinking you see little green men.
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  Speaker 2: It is anti-American conspiracy theories that always, always, always blame
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  Speaker 2: America and always, always, always apologize for radical Islamic terrorists
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  Speaker 2: who are murdering Americans. It is conspiracy theory with an
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  Speaker 2: ideological bite to it. And look, in a September 11,
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  Speaker 2: 2012 essay for CNN, that called Muslims, quote, another victim
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  Speaker 2: of 9-11. El-Sayed cited a study conducted in California that
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  Speaker 2: found a dramatic increase in premature births for Muslim women
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  Speaker 2: after 9-11 compared to before the attacks. El-Sayed omitted from
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  Speaker 2: his essay the findings of his own study comparing birth
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  Speaker 2: outcomes for Muslim women before and after 9-11, which found
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  Speaker 2: no difference in premature births. Shakir in addition to propagating
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  Speaker 2: 9-11 conspiracy theories, has blamed Israel for other terrorist attacks
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  Speaker 2: and called for Muslims to, quote, use guerrilla warfare to
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  Speaker 2: achieve their desired political outcomes. In a 1992 treatise, Shakir
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  Speaker 2: argued for Muslims to embrace, quote, extra-systemic political action ranging from, quote,
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  Speaker 2: non-cooperative tactics to guerrilla war in order to influence government
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  Speaker 2: policies or eradicate the system altogether. Shakir asserted that every
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  Speaker 2: major Muslim political gain in modern history was brought about
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  Speaker 2: through such action and cited the creation of the Islamic
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  Speaker 2: Republic of Iran and the, quote, armed struggle that led
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  Speaker 2: to the Taliban control of Afghanistan. So understand this. Abdul
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  Speaker 2: Al-Sayed is sitting next to a guy who thinks it's
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  Speaker 2: great that the Ayatollah carried out a revolution in Iran
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  Speaker 2: and and took Americans hostage for 444 days and waged
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  Speaker 2: war against America for 47 years. He thinks it's great
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  Speaker 2: that the Taliban took control of Afghanistan and oppressed women
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  Speaker 2: and enforced Sharia law on everyone. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: coddled and nurtured al-Qaeda, which launched 9-11. These are the radicals,
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  Speaker 2: and this is who al-Sayed is associating with on the
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  Speaker 2: anniversary of 9-11. This is who the man is. When
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  Speaker 2: he tells you who he is, believe him.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me pause just for a second and
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  Speaker 1: talk about something that is about to happen. 25 years
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  Speaker 1: ago is the anniversary of 9-11, and America faced the
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  Speaker 1: heartbreak of a terrorist attack at home. Now, just three
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  Speaker 1: years ago, on October 7, 2023, Israel endured that same
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  Speaker 1: heartbreak in the Holy Land. Different decades, different attacks, the
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  Speaker 1: same evils. Now, each year, the International Fellowship of Christians
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  Speaker 1: and Jews hosts Flags of Fellowship. It's a movement that
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  Speaker 1: you can get involved with with your church, where thousands
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  Speaker 1: of churches display memorial flags to honor the 1,200 lives
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  Speaker 1: lost on October the 7th. It's a way to stand
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  Speaker 1: with Israel in faith, prayer, remembrance, and solidarity. Each flag
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  Speaker 1: represents a loved one, a family forever changed, and a
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  Speaker 1: promise that we will not forget. Today, hatred and violence
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  Speaker 1: still threaten our world. Yet scripture calls us to stand firm,
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  Speaker 1: comfort the grieving, honor those that were lost, and shine
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  Speaker 1: a light in the darkness. Now together, we remember and
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  Speaker 1: honor and declare that evil will not have the final word.
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  Speaker 1: So join thousands of churches and get yours involved all
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  Speaker 1: across America in this powerful act of remembrance and support
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  Speaker 1: for Israel. You can learn how your church can participate
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  Speaker 1: in Flags of Fellowship at joinfof.org. That's joinfof.org. Senator, I
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to this conference for a second.
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  Speaker 1: And who is putting on this conference where Al-Said is
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  Speaker 1: going to be hanging out with these conspiracy theorists on the,
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  Speaker 1: basically on the 25th anniversary of 9-11?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a group that's called the Islamic Society of
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  Speaker 2: North America. And it was founded, do you know who
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  Speaker 2: one of the founders was?
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  Speaker 1: Who is it?
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  Speaker 2: Abdul Al-Sayed's father-in-law. So his father-in-law was one of the
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  Speaker 2: founders of this organization. By the way, his father-in-law is
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  Speaker 2: also the single largest donor to Abdul Al-Sayed's super PAC.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a man who's funding his campaign. And
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  Speaker 2: what is the Islamic Society of North America? Well, it
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  Speaker 2: is a group with extensive ties to the Muslim Brotherhood,
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  Speaker 2: which is a terrorist organization. It's been designated... by the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: government as a terrorist organization. It has been designated by
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  Speaker 2: Egypt and Saudi Arabia and the UAE as a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 2: And the Islamic Society of North America is closely affiliated
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  Speaker 2: with the Muslim Brotherhood, so closely that the Islamic Society
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  Speaker 2: of North America was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a
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  Speaker 2: 2008 Hamas fundraising case, the Holy Land case, This is,
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  Speaker 2: and by the way, that was a case where millions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars had been funneled from Americans to fund Hamas
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  Speaker 2: and to fund terror attacks. The group, who's an unindicted
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  Speaker 2: co-conspirator in that, is who is hosting Abdul Al-Sayed. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, another speaker at the conference is a Texas-based
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  Speaker 2: cleric named Yassir Qadi, who has called the Holocaust a hoax.
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  Speaker 2: These are not mainstream. These are not normal people. These
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  Speaker 2: are radicals. And I want to note also, Do you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: know who used to be on the agenda? He's not
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: going to be on the agenda, but he was originally.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Who was that?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: A Pakistani cleric named Tariq Masood. He was scheduled to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: appear at the event. And he admitted to forcing his
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: 13-year-old niece into marriage.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: In compliance with what he believed was Islamic law. And
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he's been accused of pedophilic rhetoric and marriage with her
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: own family. And he argued that Muslims should marry their
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: 13-year-old nieces and nephews and their family. and should essentially
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: rape children. So this Pakistani cleric was on the agenda,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and actually Verdict covered this. We covered this in a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: previous pod, and we said Abdul Al-Sayed is speaking alongside
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this person who quite openly is bragged about pressuring his
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: 13-year-old niece, forcing her into marriage, and said this was
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a good thing. And Abdul Al-Sayed's defense at the time was, well, yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: we're both speaking at the same conference, but we're on
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: different panels. I'm not speaking on the same panel with him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: He's on a different panel. The public outcry was so
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: great that they canceled the cleric Tariq Massoud, but you
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: know what? Abdul Al-Sayed is still speaking there with every
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: other conspiracy theorist, and being an anti-American... Holocaust-denying, 9-11 truther,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Hamas and al-Qaeda-defending zealot and Islamist, well, that is apparently
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a very popular thing in the Democrat Party right now.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really, really is. And this, again, goes back
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to the civil war that we're witnessing right now in
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. It's really funny, by the way, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to this. You had
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: some Democrats come out and say that Hassan Piker and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Al Saeed basically need to get out of the Democratic Party,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that they're not stop using the word Democrat with Socialists
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of America. James Carville came out and said that. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: kind of laughed at his meltdown because it's only because
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: they're afraid they're going to lose that they're now saying this.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: They did not keep any of these crazies in check.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And now he's like, get out of my party. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: quit using the name Democratic. Just be a socialist if
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're going to be a socialist. And my response would be, well,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: then why did you allow them to run in the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Democratic primaries if you're now claiming that they are not Democrats?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Look, they're taking over the Democrat Party, and it is–
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It's clear that not every Democrat in the Senate or
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: House is a Marxist or an Islamist, but every one
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of them is terrified of the Marxist and Islamist. And
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: they're holding the party hostage. They're winning primaries all over
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the country from New York City to Michigan to Colorado
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to Florida to Oklahoma. And all the Democrats are terrified.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And by the way, these radicals pretend they're not as
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: radical as– As they are. So, for example, I want
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to listen to you. I want you to listen to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Abdul Al-Sayed on CBS talking about 9-11 and pretending that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: he's much more reasonable on it. Give a listen.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: We noticed that there were some resurface posts on 9-11.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And I was wondering if it's making it challenging to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: reach more Republican or more moderate voters in this race.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think all of us look back
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and say 9-11 was an awful thing that happened in
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: this country.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And I think all of us also look back and say,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: think about all the wars that were fought, and how
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: much safer do we feel like they made us? How
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: many lives did they ruin? And my point is just
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: to say that what happened on 9-11 is a disaster.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It was a terrible attack on our country.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: And our responsibility is also to think about how do
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: we build.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: An America where we.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Are protecting our servicemen and women, from being asked to
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: fight in wars we have no business fighting that ultimately
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: end up doing harm to people.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: And we're seeing that right now.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: If you look at the consequences of this war, that
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: we have no business fighting, the billions of dollars.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: That are being spent to raise our gas prices, we're
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: in a quagmire we don't know how to get out of.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: And you'd think that after the disasters in Afghanistan.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And Iraq that we would have learned a lesson, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: apparently not.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And so I just think it's really important for us
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to be learning the lessons of our history. And I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: talking to Michiganders every single day who wonder when the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: era of all these wars.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Is going to end because that's what Donald Trump said
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: he was going to do. He said America first.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm America first.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: There is not a day that goes by that I
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: don't think about the destruction that 9-11 wrought and also
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: think about how do we build an America where we're
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: not constantly fighting wars we have no business to fight.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Both of those things can be true.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: All right. So, Senator, you hear that. And it is, again,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he's clearly saying, all right, I got to pivot from
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: what I've been saying and what I really believe. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to totally change it. And you're like, all right, buddy, sure,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I believe you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So what's interesting, if you actually listen to the words
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: he said, he's not even entirely pivoting. So like what
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: he says there at the end is, quote, there's not
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: a day that goes by that I don't think about
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the destruction that 9-11 wrought. What's interesting, when he's talking
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: about destruction that 9-11 wrought, he doesn't mean the 3,000
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Americans murdered. He means the destruction that America destroyed al-Qaeda,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: that America destroyed the Taliban. He is mourning that it
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: cost the terrorists their lives. And by the way, if
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you think, well, no, no, no, surely that can't.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Be the case.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned, he had made a ton of tweets
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: about about 9-11. And when he launched a Senate campaign,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: what did he do? He deleted all of them. So
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: there were 11 tweets from 2020 to 2022 in which
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: he trivialized 9-11. And you listen to some of them.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So here's one he sent. The fact that the U.S.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: government continues to pit the Afghan people against 9-11 families
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: is appalling. All are victims. All deserve the full share
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of support they are owed. Here's another one. The hypocrisy
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: of the U.S. war on terror, withholding humanitarian aid from
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the Afghan people who had nothing to do with 9-11
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: but endured 20 years of war for it and are
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: now facing famine while exporting weapons to Saudi government allies
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that exported the ideology that created bin Laden. Here's another one.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Defending America never should have meant responding to tribalistic grievance
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: with tribalistic grievance as so much of the post-9-11 era
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: has been. Rather, it should have meant embracing the ideals
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that transcend it Here's another very revealing one that he
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: sent on September 11th, 2021. Quote, Today, I mourn the
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: 3,000 lives, 6,000 injuries, and infrastructural devastation in New York,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: perpetuated ignorantly in the name of my faith. Tomorrow, I'll
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: mourn the 1 million lives, millions of injuries, and infrastructural
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: devastation in three countries, perpetuated ignorantly in the name of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: my country. So understand, when he's saying he weeps the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: devastation of 9-11, he doesn't mean the Americans killed. He
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: means he's mourning that we killed so many al-Qaeda terrorists
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and Taliban terrorists. That's who he's mourning. And here's another
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: tweet that he deleted. COVID-19 has taken over 3,000 American lives,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: more than 9-11. I hope that means we'll spend the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: next 10 years fighting a war for public health and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: against climate change and poverty like we launched a global
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: war on terror after 9-11. We could save lives rather
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: than take them. This is over and over and over again.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: He has sent tweet after tweet after tweet. And the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: amazing thing is he deleted them all. He thought no
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: one would notice. And this is someone This is someone
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: who wants to represent the state of Michigan in the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: United States Senate. And he won the primary. And among radicals,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: by the way, Bernie Sanders is supporting him. Elizabeth Warren
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is supporting him. AOC is supporting him. Chuck Schumer is
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: supporting the guy. The senator from New York is supporting
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the guy who is mourning the terrorist who carried out
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the 9-11 attacks. It is astonishing.
• 27:44
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  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, and that is the issue of Chinese
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: spying and espionage and the influence in America. We've got
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a new story this week. We have found out that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Chinese container ships have been used. It's a company called Costco.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: They're owned by the Chinese government, and they apparently have
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: insanely sophisticated listening devices, spying devices on board of these
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: cargo ships that have been collecting intel for the Chinese
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Communist Party in Beijing and concealing this equipment like, hey,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: we're just here offloading equipment in America's ports. They've been
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: doing this apparently for years in the U.S.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Well, there are three related stories that are broken in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: recent days, and they all concern Chinese spying and espionage
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: here in the United States. The first one you just referenced.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: is a Chinese state-owned shipping giant, Costco, and this is
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: how Reuters has reported it, that Costco uses concealed equipment
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: on board its ships to spy on military communications near
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the coastline of target nations, including the United States, two
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: senior Trump administration officials said. The officials who spoke on
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: conditions of anonymity to discuss U.S. assessment of the Chinese
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: program said Costco has a decades-long intelligence collection partnership with Beijing.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: The arrangement allows China to collect communication signals from vessels
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and aircraft operating across Europe, North America, and Asia. The
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: advanced equipment aboard the ships is intended to enable China
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to gather information about, quote, military communications technologies and encryption developments,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: one of the officials said. The effort also allows Beijing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to monitor key shipping lanes and maritime routes crucial for
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: trade and military navigation, the official added. Costco did not
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: respond to a request for comment, while the Chinese embassy
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: in Washington rejected the U.S. claims. President Trump and Chinese
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: leader Xi Jinping plan to meet in Washington for a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: summit later this month, where they're expected to discuss a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: range of issues related of sensitive security and trade issues.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The officials did not detail the type of equipment Costco
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: ships were allegedly using, but said they were, quote, sophisticated
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: signals intelligence collection platforms, not routine communications hardware. They said
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Beijing uses the information gleaned to bolster its position in
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: territorial disputes and provide maritime reconnaissance and early warning indications
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of foreign military targets. The Pentagon put Costco on its
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: list of companies linked to China's military in January 2025.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And nonetheless, Costco remains one of the top global shipping
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: companies calling at U.S. ports and has several terminal service
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: joint ventures for container ships at U.S. ports. So these
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: are container ships. They don't look like they're not military vessels.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: They don't say Chinese Navy. They're a container ship. filled
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: with spy equipment and conducting espionage on U.S. soil.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: This is another example of the bigger threats, and we've
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot from China. It also,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: when you go back in time and you see how
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: long they were doing this, a lot of this happened
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: under the Biden administration. And I ask the question, who
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: is asleep at the wheel and how were they not
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: doing more? At least now we're starting to find and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: arrest different people that are involved in espionage. But it
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: seems like they could get away with whatever they wanted
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to while the Biden administration was in charge.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Look, when Biden was in charge, there was no one
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: minding the till. Another case that just broke is two men,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: two Chinese nationals were arrested, Yuance Chen and Liren Rian Lei.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: They were arrested last year, but the news just became public.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: They were charged with acting as agents of the Chinese
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: government without notifying the U.S. Attorney General. They were working
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: on behalf of China's Foreign Intelligence Service. And according to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the Justice Department, their activities included gathering intelligence about U.S.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Navy bases and American service members and assisting efforts to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: recruit people inside the United States military who could potentially
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: become intelligence assets for Beijing. Prosecutors say Chen was directed
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to visit a U.S. naval installation in Washington State in
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a Navy recruiting center in San Gabriel, California. At that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: recruiting center, Chen allegedly obtained personal information about Navy recruits
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and apparently transmitted that information to a Chinese intelligence officer.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: According to the criminal complaint, Chinese intelligence said allegedly instructed
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Chen on how to engage and recruit future sailors and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: how to reduce his chances of getting caught. Federal prosecutors
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: allege Chen and Lai helped facilitate a $ 10, 000 cash dead
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: drop in Livermore, California. This particular payment was compensation for
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: national security information that had previously been provided to Chinese intelligence.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: He didn't merely communicate remotely with his handlers. He traveled
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to Guangzhou, China, and met with MSS intelligence officers in
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: April 24, and again in March 25 to discuss compensation
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and intelligence assignments. Lai, likewise, entered the United States in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: April 25 on a tourist visa, claiming that his trip
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: was related to his online retail business. But according to prosecutors,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: weeks later he traveled from Houston, our hometown, to all
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the way to Southern California before returning to Texas. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: he was arrested in Houston. That's going on. And then
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: there's one more story, because I said there's three. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I got to say, the third story hits really close
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to home. It's an American citizen, Thomas Weir Palkin II,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: who was sentenced on September 1st to two years in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: federal prison after pleading guilty to acting as an agent
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: of a foreign government inside the United States. According to
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the Justice Department, Palkin worked from 2019 until 2026 at
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the direction of people he knew worked for the Chinese government.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: One of his handlers was a woman identified as Kathy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Prosecutors said Kathy gave Palkin assignments. He was directed to
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: meet potential intelligence assets in America. He provided those potential
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: assets with devices, including laptops, and cell phones so he
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: could communicate with his Chinese handlers. And he passed along
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: assignments telling those individuals one information China wanted. For doing this,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: prosecutors say Pocken received at least $ 100, 000, while China also
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: paid for several of his trips between China and the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: United States. Now, I got to say, look, when I
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: read this story, I'm like, Tom Pocken, Tom Pocken II.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: He's a Texan, and there's a reason I paused, because
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: his father... Tom Pauken Sr., was the chairman of the
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Texas Republican Party. Tom Pauken ran for governor in Texas.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: You were not living in Texas then, so I don't
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: know if this name leapt off the page that you banned.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: But Tom Pauken ran for governor of Texas in 2014.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: He was the chairman of the Republican Party. He was
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the chairman of the Workforce Commission. He was the chairman
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of the Republican Party from 1994 on. to 1997. So
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: his son just pleaded guilty and was just sentenced to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: prison for being an agent for the Chinese government, paid
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: more than a hundred grand. That is astonishing and it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: deeply disturbing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And this is, again, just how
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: much they're working overtime to get into the United States
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of America and their tentacles into us.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: China is engaged in a thousand-year war against the United States.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Their objective is global dominance. Their objective is military dominance,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: economic dominance. And I've spent my entire tenure in the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Senate arguing that we need a comprehensive strategy, much like
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: we had against the Soviet Union, to win the Cold War,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: because they're fighting to win, and far too many Americans,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: particularly American politicians, are not even aware this battle's going on.
• 37:09
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