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Peenomorph: James Bond Retrospective & Xenomorph Debate · Multiple Nerdgasm

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you're the favorite host of of people and I'm like, why are you
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telling me that? Yeah, that's.
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Not that's not that's. Rude and play.
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Favorites. I don't want to you.
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Get favorites in your kids. You don't do it.
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And even if you have one. You don't tell anyone.
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I was going to say easy for me. I always tell Larry she's the
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best daughter I've ever had. And she goes, oh, thanks, dad.
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And I'm like, no worries, mate. One day she's going to be like,
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hang on a minute. My daughter quoted Bluey to me
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in an argument that she and I Oh nice.
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And it fucking cut too because you know that.
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You know that episode that starts with them telling Bandit
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he's the best dad in the world and then they find out they
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they're on their way to the dump to throw out all of their
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childhood? Are you not the best driver,
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Dad? Dad.
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Yeah, yeah. That's.
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Right, I'm asking you a question.
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Dad, right. In the end, he she goes, I don't
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think you are the best dad in the world.
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We'll say yes. So I'd always been a right
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little shit and I, you know, send it to a room or send it to
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bed or whatever. And she just looked at me and
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goes, I don't think you are the best dad in the world.
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Like you AI know where that's from.
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Yeah, funny. Blue's fucking great.
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She's Lyra's been watching it again, actually.
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And she went off. It.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Harper goes in and out. Yeah.
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Not went off it but like was watching other stuff.
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Have you seen Did you know the episode where the mom and dad
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are trying to escape and it's all drawings and they're chased
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by the the Puppetry house car? Yeah.
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Have you seen the short? Oh, you know what?
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I know that there's new minisode things, new shots.
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I have not watched them all night.
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They're. Pretty good.
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There's hit and miss, but there's one where you see kind
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of the machinations of of the dream house car and it didn't
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Blue, blue and bingo on in it. They're not in the episode.
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It's just the Butlers and they're hiring a new Butler and
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telling him how that how everything works.
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It's very, very funny. Yeah.
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OK, yeah, I got to watch all those.
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Yeah, they're pretty good and they're they're literally like
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one to two minutes each. Bluey movie, but not until 2027
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I think I. Guess it takes a long time to
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make a movie. It must, but that's so long
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away. Yeah, 2027.
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Yeah, if you think Luke is frustrated when things take that
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long to come out, I'm pretty sure our daughters are not
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gonna. I'm just gonna tell.
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Her about this I understand it's not so simple to make a movie
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but like I mean kids watching Bluey now, like will they be
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watching Bluey in two years? Yeah, I know.
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Probably, but but also are they going to continue to make more
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show? Because it seems like no, they
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might be done with that. Yeah, I think they're focusing
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on the movie, but that you're right, because that could mean
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that they miss out on, yeah, the audience in between.
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But I guess if they're it means they're going to make a better
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movie, that's fine. You know, I mean, they may be
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Simpsons. I'd say do that and the.
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Simpsons went for 30 odd years. Just shitting them out.
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Yeah, yeah, I do like to go back to those old Simpsons episodes.
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They're beautifully written. They're different to today's
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episodes, obviously, but the main reason is that they don't
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just try to just bombard you with jokes.
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They actually just want to tell a story and then do it in a
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funny way. A.
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Funny story, yeah. Yeah, whereas now it's just like
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everything Homer says has to be fucking random and wacky.
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Yes, he can't make a sensible comment ever.
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I haven't watched The
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Simpsons. I don't even know how long, and
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I keep forgetting it's still going.
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Like, I think there's probably more Simpsons I haven't seen
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than I have seen at this point. This got.
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Really sad. That's that's where I am with
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Star Wars and we do have some Star Wars news.
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Probably wait for Luke for that. Sure we could.
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Just. We'd be annoyed if he was late
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and then we'd said all we'd talk about is the Star Wars news.
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Yeah, he's not going to know any of this stuff.
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We'll have to explain it to him. He's lived.
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He's been in the fucking jungles of Vietnam for.
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Yeah, that's true. A week now or for how long has
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he been gone? 5 weeks actually in various.
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I think he's been gone almost two months all up.
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That's pretty cool. I wouldn't get to do that.
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That's a holiday. Yeah, that's definitely a
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holiday. You're gonna get holidays like
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that when you're. When you're here, you're.
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Gonna get holidays now like that when you have kids, yeah.
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That's true, too. Follow up, Jimmy Kimmel is back
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on on television. He was.
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He was off for a couple of days, yeah, and then he was back and
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then Next Star and what sailor on Sinclair said Now we're not
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putting him back on, so he's back on Disney and then they
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said. Oh, I won't put him on.
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I would have loved it and I I know this wouldn't have
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happened, but I would have just because I don't give two shits
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about Jimmy Kimmel, but I would have given him.
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I would have given him full props.
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If when they said, fine, you can come back, he went fuck you.
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No, no, why would I want to come back to a network where you just
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sacked me for making a? Joke in the I guess it's no and
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I guess it's like I think he's more interested in giving the
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middle finger to the FCC and to to Trump because he's that's his
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thing. So the fact that I think he, the
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fact that he got cancelled and then got back on might actually
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be good for him in that sense that he's like trying to, you
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know. Yeah, show him.
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Up kind of thing is. He is he almost invincible now.
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I can't sack him twice. That's what I mean.
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It's like, yeah, he's like almost one in a way.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.
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I yeah, because I've never Kimmel.
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I don't watch Kimmel. I don't dislike him, right?
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I just don't care. Yeah, Yeah.
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Not particularly interesting to me.
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And that. Yeah.
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So. Is this the one that used to be
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married to Sarah Silverman or is that the other Jimmy who has a
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show? It's.
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This Are they still? OK, but this is the one that I
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prefer, I think, out of the two, out of the two people whose
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shows I've never ever watched. Who's the other one?
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Fallon Fallon have a show. Right, right, right.
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Yeah, he does. He does, yeah.
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Yeah. Don't care about him either.
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No, I'm less. I'm less inclined to pay
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attention to him, but in my mind they're kind of the same person.
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Sarah Silverman and Wait What Is Happening partners Jimmy Kimmel
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until 2009 and then Michael Sheen.
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Michael Sheen What? For four years she was with
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Michael Sheen. I did not know that.
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No, no. That's.
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Bizarre. And I thought.
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I thought I knew all the women Michael Sheen had banged.
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I just did it. Yeah.
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It's so interesting because I like Sarah Silverman.
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Yeah, but. And I like Michael Sheen.
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She's she's been a period. Of four years there from 2014 to
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2018. Yeah, they were together and I
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just didn't know that. They didn't tell me no.
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They didn't. I can't.
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Believe. I can't believe Mike didn't
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message. Me, I would tell you if I was
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doing Sarah Silverman, I'd let you know immediately.
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Yeah, mid coitus. I would let you know if I was
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doing anyone that Michael Sheen had done.
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Yes, yeah, right. Mind you, let's not let this
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week's episode divulge into women.
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I would do because last week did, and while it was hilarious,
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I couldn't tell anyone to listen to it because it was.
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It was just us. It was just us being
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insufferable fuck wits for an hour.
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So. Yeah.
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Well, we'll let Luke give an update on on we do on all that
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if he wants to. Sure, Yeah, yeah, we've got some
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insufferable fuck wit follow up. Actually Gary Busey, known fuck
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wit. Hobbit, chaser and known fuck
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wit. Yeah, he's now a a convicted sex
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pest. Yeah.
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Because he plead guilty and has been sentenced to Tia's
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probation and probation. Don't grope anyone from for
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groping somebody at a con. Yeah.
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I guess when they asked for a photo, he was like, yeah, come
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here, darling. This is he told the judge.
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It was not an accidental touching and.
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The job is like you noticed Gary Busey.
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Yeah, I thought I could get away with it, so I went for it and it
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turned out she didn't like that and now I'm in trouble.
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Authorities say Busey grabbed the buttocks of two of the women
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and then put his face near a third woman's breasts while
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trying to unlatch her bra. You don't do that.
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That's not an accident. Touch, Gary you.
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Don't do that. Don't.
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Please don't do that. Come on.
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And you know what? Even if you were young and
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handsome, women don't want you to do that when they're just
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trying to get a photo, you know? I mean, we'll talk about some
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movies this week where it seems like women in the movie do want
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you to do that. OK, But.
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Well, just be clear, they don't want you to do it.
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No, they want Sean Connery to do it.
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Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so Gary BCT is
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probation and is he on the register now, is that?
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I mean I. Guess so in his 80s.
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Well, he's on my register. Do you know what I mean?
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He's sure. Like if I ever meet him, I'll be
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like, oh, are you registered sex offended Gary Busey and see what
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he I. Wouldn't ask him that I wanted
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him to be. Honest, no, I I think he
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probably quite capable and quite willing to beat the living shit
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out of me so. He might grope you next.
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Yeah, that's right. Actually, what you're trying to
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do, I can't do it. Gary Busey.
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You and Gary Busey sounded more like Christopher Lambert, but
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yeah, that's cool. I love that video of him on the
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red carpet where the guy asks, tries to ask him what he's
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working on next and he's like, he almost goes to say something.
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He goes, oh, you almost got me there.
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And he goes, oh, you. Yeah.
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Has this big freak out about how the guy was trying to trick him
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into it. The guy's just like I was just
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asking you a question mate. Yeah, I don't.
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I'm not trying to insinuate anything.
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Yeah, I actually don't care. Yeah, Speaking of Christopher
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Lambert, though, there's some Highlander news that we haven't
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discussed, which is that Highlanders off for the time
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being because Sandry Cavill got injured in Scotland.
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Yeah, right. Filming Highlander.
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Do we know what the injury was? The head get chopped off.
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Head cut off, yeah. Yeah.
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It's the one thing they didn't want to happen.
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No, I don't know what the injury is, no.
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No, you can't be the Highlander without a head.
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That's, that's the tagline for Highlander.
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Can't be a Highlander without a head.
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I've got a, I've got a little pet peeve with Highlander.
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And it's the same as your pet peeve for the Alien franchise is
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that I don't, I don't like it when people refer to the
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immortals as Highlanders. And I have to fucking sigh and
11:57
point out that no, he's a Highlander because he's from
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Scotland, not because he's, he's a magic person.
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They're all magic. He's the only Highlander.
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Yeah. Yeah, there could be only one.
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I'm like, no, no, no, not one Highlander.
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Yeah. Immortal.
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There could be more immortals from the Highlands of Scotland,
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potentially, yeah. We just don't.
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There there are. Because we've never.
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Series. There's at least one other.
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There's there you go. OK, that episode was called
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Highlanders. Yeah, Highlanders.
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Yeah, well, there was one episode of the series where they
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were both in it, and there was one film that they were both in
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it, but that was long after both got shit.
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Right, Right. Yes, Well, yes, I do.
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So it's 222 segues we could do here.
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One of them is just that. Speaking of film injuries, Tom
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Holland is also injured at the moment.
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Oh. Shit, so he's not going to be
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able to do the rest his history podcast that's.
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Right. Wait, he's not on the most
12:53
recent one. It's Tabitha.
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What? Oh.
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Interesting they've got the most recent bonus episode is about
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Dracula and it's oh sick Dominic and Tabitha, one of their
13:05
producers, talking about Dracula.
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It's a weird coincidence that you've made that joke.
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Is it? Yeah, it is.
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Yeah, it's definitely. No, it's the the spider man, Tom
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Holland has been injured on set, got a concussion, apparently
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doing a stunt. Yeah, to be rushed to hospital.
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Yeah, right. Well, it's no good.
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No, no, not a whole lot more than that to say, I suppose.
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But yeah, wish him well. Do wish him well.
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This is sorry. This is on the set of a Spider
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Man movie, yes. Yeah, of the new Spider Man
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movie. Yeah, right.
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OK, yeah. Do we know much about the new
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Spider Man movie? We know they did do a they put
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out a set photo. Pretty much enjoyed all of the
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spider man so far. Yeah, Spider Man, it's still got
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the same people in it. There was a there's a weird
13:57
theory or or someone else and you love interest potentially is
14:02
in this and some weird thing about how like it's it's also an
14:05
MJ. And so they're like, oh, they're
14:07
doing this thing where, you know, Zendaya has been MJ, but
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it's actually ha ha rug pull. It's not the MJ.
14:15
It's what's her name? Sadie, whatever her name is from
14:19
Stranger Things. To the redhead, Gwen Stacy, he's
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trying to. They can try to shoot on that.
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Well, all right, I think people on the Internet making shit up
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probably, but I think it's because it's Sadie Sink.
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Is that her name? The girl from Stranger Things.
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The red headed girl. She's got red hair.
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Sure. Yeah, yeah.
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Mary Jane, like Mary Jane does. Yeah.
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So that's, I think that's just probably all that is.
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But we know that. We know she's in it.
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OK, that's great. Yes, and then all the rest of
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them are back as well. And I do want to have a rant
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again. Yeah, it was a rant.
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Alien. Oh, I've watched all of Alien
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Earth. OK, that's great.
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So I've still only seen two episodes of it.
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All right, I'll still say I like it.
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But then again it's been 2 weeks and I haven't watched more than
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two so. Yeah, no, I watched all of it.
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I, I mean, I do. I dislike it.
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I don't have, you know, that much to say about it.
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I just don't don't like what they did with it.
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There's too way too much alien in the sunlight.
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Like way too much. And then like I said, the main
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thing that I keep thinking is like, they just tried to smush
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too many alien things. I mean, it's it just like I
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said, it makes me think about how disjointed all that alien
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stuff is. And that annoys me.
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And like, like that thing where you know, when there's one of
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them, it could just fucking kill everybody.
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And when there's more than one of them, you can shoot a few of
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them and it's fine. Like it's just, it's like, so
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it's inconsistent and but when it's in different movies, it
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doesn't matter so much. Like an alien, there's one of
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them and it kills everybody and it's, it's like a more of a
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slasher film. Aliens, there's tons of them and
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the marines are shooting them and it's less noticeable that
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that's that they're that they're different.
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The alien is different because it's a different movie.
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So like, yeah. That's right, an alien three
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different again. There's one of them and it's
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killing everybody and I know that they're not armed in in.
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But yeah, it's also because, first of all, they have guns.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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But well. Yeah.
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Do they have, do they not have guns in the first?
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I know that's kind of the plot. No, the 1 is.
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They're in a space of weapons, yeah.
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Yeah, that's the point is I don't think I think they have
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them, but they can't use them because they'll blow a hole in
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a. Hole.
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I think also they they realise they can't shoot it because it
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will eat. Through the whole acid.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's actually, I mean,
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what do I need to go into this too much?
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That's the other thing with Alien Earth is that to Alien,
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the aliens just are scary when you're in a spaceship because of
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all those reasons. There's literally designed by
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Dan O'bannon. That's right, yeah.
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It was a freaking nightmare if you're on a spaceship, like,
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yeah, so. Yeah, because Dan O'bannon
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watched Fantastic Voyage or Thing from Outer Space,
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whichever that 50s movie was. That's basically just that plot
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and when. But what if they couldn't even
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kill it? And then you rewrote that and
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called it Alien by Dan O'bannon. Yeah, Dan O'bannon or a guy.
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A strange man. Yeah, strange man.
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But yes, my rent is, well, he's. For incorrectly.
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Yeah, right. His script for Dark Star is
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essentially. Alien as well.
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Except with a beach ball. Yeah, yes, these words xenomorph
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incorrectly. I believe in alien Earth because
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these two refers specifically to that species.
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At least they seem to people online.
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There's actually more discussion about this.
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That heartens me that I'm not the only one out there who who
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finds this annoying. I'll just say look, Xenomorph
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from ancient Greek Zeno. Oh, Luke will be happy to hear
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my rant now of a xeno Wharf. I'm glad you're here.
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I'm glad, I'm glad you're here because any of the listeners
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want to see. That's bringing up a point that
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we've never heard before, so. Let me explain something to you
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Zeno. It's from the ancient Greek that
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means strange or foreign, and morph means from the ancient
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Greek meaning form. So zenomorph means strange or
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foreign. Form.
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It's almost like a euphemism for the word alien.
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Canalian or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And also, I discovered this week, I didn't know this before.
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It wasn't invented by James Cameron even or anything like
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that. It was used in the 50s to
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literally in newspapers talk about extraterrestrial life.
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There you go. So OK.
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This sort of makes sense. So we don't need to go on about
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it because I've. Done that.
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What's a pinomorph man A. Pinomorph.
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Yeah. Tell the list is about is.
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That the is that the name of this this episode?
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That's I've got a that's what I've got a referral to a
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specialist for. I saw one thing online,
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actually. I will say the other day that So
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Alien Earth has brought up this conversation again.
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Luke just with me, with the Internet in at large.
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No, the Internet is fighting again.
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Well, there's more discussion about it.
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And then I was saying in a way that heartened me that I was
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like, I'm not alone, that I'm not anyone who's annoyed by
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this. And someone was saying, oh,
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well, in in Alien Covenant, there's like a protomorph and a
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neomorph. Why they called that and but
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like, they're not called that in the movie.
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No one calls them that movie. They're not called anything in
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the movie. They're nothing.
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Protomorph. Yeah, They don't have this
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fucking weird creation that never existed.
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They don't have names. They didn't.
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That's what they named. In the movie.
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That's what they called them on set, right?
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So if we're going by that logic, then the alien from Alien is
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called Big Chap, and we have to all start calling him Big Chap
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in the movies. Now they have to start referring
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to him as Big Chap. Yeah, like what if you in Alien
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Romulus? That's what they should have
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called the alien when they recovered it.
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Big Chap. What if they nicknamed him like
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Big chap? What if they nicknamed him like
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Eric or something? Oh, no.
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Exactly, Eric. Yeah, I would love that
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actually. But I mentioned this
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specifically that my Xenomorph complaint was specifically
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brought up today to take issue with this headline about the new
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Predator movie where Dan Trachtenberg, who is directing
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the movie, he did a great job on Alien, Alien, great job on Prey.
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Fucking great job. He has said that there's no
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Xenomorph in OH. There's no strange forms.
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I I'm disappointed because I thought the Predator was going
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to be in it, but apparently not. Yeah, it's just going to be
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yeah. So that's disappointing.
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You're, yeah. You're familiar with the
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Predator though, right? So maybe he's not Zeno.
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He's not as Zeno as you think. That's true.
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He's a known form and he's a known.
20:53
Form, Yeah, yeah. That could be what he means.
20:57
Yeah, my favorite part of Predator.
20:59
Is it the predator or is? It it's Gary Busey.
21:05
Yeah, it's Gary Beauty and they're going to confirm in this
21:09
Gary, Predators do just use guns for currency.
21:12
That's that's the old flintlocks.
21:14
So it wasn't just a one off thing.
21:16
That's just. This just happened to have one
21:18
Yeah, yeah, yes. So yeah, I just predator bad
21:26
than whenever Xenomorph. I guess it's just it's just
21:28
going to be Elle fanning as half a synth coming around with no no
21:35
clothes on around. Aliens.
21:36
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. I've not watched any more Alien
21:43
this week because I've been watching old episodes of Always
21:47
Sunny Philadelphia. Yeah, very good.
21:49
Because any time I don't know what to watch, that's just
21:52
they're waving at me, you know, going to.
21:54
Me, you know, easy. Go to.
21:58
So easy, there's no duds. I know.
22:00
At least I'm going to chuckle at something that happens in the
22:02
next 23 minutes. And last night I watched the one
22:06
where Mack and Dennis continually just watched the
22:10
first Predator movie every night.
22:14
And then for that. One and Dennis, it's called Matt
22:17
and Dennis breakup is the name of the episode.
22:20
And because they're living together at the time and Dennis
22:23
is like, I don't want to watch Predator anymore.
22:26
A, we've seen it and B, we only watch it so you can talk about
22:31
male forms. And he was like, hey.
22:34
Man. Carl Withers has got the best
22:36
physicality. He's like, I don't want to hear
22:38
the word physicality. I want to get through a whole
22:39
movie without you saying the word physicality.
22:44
All right, I go back. But Carl Withers did look
22:47
amazing back then. Oh totally, He looked run
22:50
through the run through the surf with with Stallone in Rambo 3
22:55
Rainbow three no Rocky, 3 Rocky. Three.
22:57
You know what if they'd shoehorned a scene like that
22:59
into Rambo 3 running through the I'd.
23:02
Be OK with the. The desert of Afghanistan?
23:05
Yeah, with the some sexy Mujahideen fighter.
23:10
Yeah, I mean, it does. Yeah, it does.
23:12
Does pause at the end and say dedicated to the Braves or
23:15
Taliban? No.
23:16
Well, it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, The Taliban.
23:19
After a while, I forget what they're called.
23:20
You had been. Now I do want to apologise for
23:23
being late. I am sorry I am on holidays and
23:27
it is very easy to forget what day it is and.
23:31
When you're as drunk as you are. I wasn't actually at drunk, I've
23:34
just been sitting at the beach and I was swimming and I got.
23:39
What were you doing? What were you doing at the
23:41
beach? I was swimming in the water, all
23:44
right. And then I swam back and I
23:45
looked at my watch, looked at my watch and I went, oh, I've got a
23:49
message. I should read that.
23:50
And I went, are you coming? Yes, I am.
23:54
And let's just I also need to say, don't worry, last week the
23:57
knockouts planned. I am still a virgin.
24:03
And so is she. So if any listeners are out
24:08
there looking to take my Finish Unity, it's still on offer.
24:13
Look, I've got some I've. Got not on a Patreon tier.
24:17
OK. No, not selling it.
24:19
Not. In trouble with that before.
24:21
Yeah, now look, I've got some. I've got some if you want some
24:23
tips. I've been watching some movies
24:25
this week and I've got some tips for you.
24:28
You know how to work with the ladies, how to pick up some, how
24:30
to pick up the ladies. OK.
24:35
I've been watching all the James Bond movies and I've watched
24:40
from the start in order from the start except the first Casino
24:44
Royale which I should go back and watch just for funsies
24:46
because you need to. Oh.
24:47
Well, I understand you need to slap them.
24:51
When even when they're slapping, you just keep holding them down.
24:56
So I'll say, OK, so I've watched, I've watched Doctor,
24:58
No, I've watched From Russia With Love, I've watched
25:01
Goldfinger, I've watched Thunderball and I've watched You
25:03
Only Live Twice. So it's quite a lot of bond.
25:06
And they do get progressively every everyone that I watched,
25:12
he would he would, he would assault a woman in a way that I
25:15
was like, well, that's the worst case of yet.
25:16
And then and then the next movie I get.
25:18
Now that's the worst case of it so far.
25:21
Just before we continue with with with the sex sex crime
25:26
talk. Sure, that's not all I have to
25:27
say about. It No, no, no.
25:28
Just to be clear, I've realized that you've got a strange
25:31
conundrum on your hands, right? What's that?
25:33
Of course, if if you're going to do them chronologically,
25:37
technically speaking you should be doing Never On a Majesty's
25:42
Secret Service next before and then coming back and doing
25:45
Diamonds of Forever. No, that's what I am going to be
25:48
doing. Yeah, yeah.
25:49
But it's weird because when you get like the box set, I don't
25:52
think they're ordered like that. I think it's the 6th Connery.
25:54
Which is odd because the big, I mean, it's been a while, but I,
25:58
I, if I recall, there's literally next.
26:01
And finally you should mention that I finished when I finished
26:03
you only lived twice. It came up and it said, do you
26:06
want to watch the next one? And it said diamonds are
26:07
forever. And I was like, that's not the
26:08
next one. That's not the next one, My
26:10
Majesty. 'S Secret Service is the next
26:11
one, and Diamonds Are Forever begins with Bond looking for
26:15
Blofeld because he's just killed his wife, which happens in a
26:19
Majesty's Secret Service, so they have to go in that order.
26:22
Yeah, it was, Yeah. Although he could also be
26:25
looking for Blofeld after you only lived twice I guess.
26:29
OK, he's OK. Look, James Bond is always
26:31
looking for a blood. Looking for a blood that's.
26:33
Just yeah, yeah, yeah. True.
26:35
Yeah, I remember when Blofeld just randomly died off camera in
26:39
that one James Bond movie. You mean the most recent one?
26:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I mean, it was on camera.
26:45
It was just very, I think. Yeah.
26:48
Yeah, true. The nanite infection.
26:50
What I love about the James Bond women, and by love I mean.
26:54
Oh no, you're right. He dies off camera.
26:55
They take him to hospital and they go.
26:56
He's dead. That's right.
26:57
You're right. Yeah.
26:58
Yeah, yeah, I thought so. One.
27:02
There's one girl that's in 2 James Bond movies, I believe.
27:06
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the girl he's with in the
27:11
start or from Rush with Love is what?
27:14
It's not ours or Andrus, but it's from somebody.
27:16
She's from Doctor No, and apparently they were going to
27:19
always do that. It was always still banging one
27:23
from the last. And then she'd die.
27:27
And then? Like in that one scene she's in
27:30
in from Russia we love, he hits her, she goes to get something
27:33
and he smacks her. She tries to get the yeah,
27:36
because M calls him and says you need to come in.
27:39
And then she's like, he's busy and he's like.
27:43
Shut the fuck up. Bitch.
27:46
I'm on the telephone, yeah. Yeah, because he meets her at
27:50
the casino in Doctor No. That's right.
27:53
In his introduction in Doctor No.
27:54
And then he leaves to go to Jamaica and bangs a bunch of
27:56
other chicks and then he. Yeah.
27:58
And then he. He's with her.
27:59
Some who start off throughout the film, some who don't.
28:02
Some who don't and then he meets he's Wither at the start of
28:04
Russia with Love and then he goes off also.
28:07
So the start of Russia with Love, it's just so like he's,
28:13
he's got to go get the, the Russian cipher device, right?
28:17
And he's, he's kind of like he's the other Lecter.
28:19
He's not that interested. But then they show him a photo
28:22
of the, the girl who's the Russian contact and which, who's
28:25
been chosen specifically for this purpose.
28:27
And he sees the photo and he goes, well, actually, I'm not so
28:30
busy right now. It's just like, fuck, man.
28:33
Why is the the the UK in the hands of this man?
28:38
Yeah, that's right. But also like, can he not get
28:43
chicks on his own? Like, you know what I mean?
28:45
Like they know women. He.
28:46
Can control himself, yeah. So like, if I just showed you a
28:50
picture of a woman in another country, even if you found her
28:53
attractive, you wouldn't be like, get me on a plane to
28:55
whichever country this is. I knew she got it.
28:57
Like, hold on. He has to go to Istanbul to meet
29:01
with her. Like, yeah.
29:02
Yeah, yeah. Look, I still know the greatest
29:05
pick up line in the world, and it's not from James Bond is.
29:09
It from Highlander. It's from Highlander, I'm Connor
29:12
McLeod from the Claire McLeod and I cannot die instantly
29:17
banging. And that's another movie, too.
29:20
You know, you're saying that the the sex crimes get progressively
29:23
worse than the. James Bond, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
29:24
the. Sex means in Highland to get
29:27
increasingly gratuitous in more unnecessary ways as they went
29:32
on. Yes.
29:35
It's fine, but. Yeah, so so Speaking of of his
29:40
treatment of the women from Russia with love, he he doesn't
29:44
really, I don't think do anything to watches 2.
29:47
Women fight to the death. That's true, he does.
29:49
He does do that for. Entertainment.
29:51
And then and then they then they fight for him.
29:54
Oh yeah, he says. They get to sleep because the
29:57
guy says the head of the gypsy says you can decide which one of
30:01
them is allowed to marry the man they want and so they both just
30:05
start fucking him to get his approval and he's just like what
30:08
is happening? That's not that's not OK.
30:11
Yeah, and then but then in Goldfinger when the Pussy
30:19
Galore, he. Never thought that as a kid.
30:24
I thought that was a perfectly sensible name when I was a kid.
30:27
There's a lot of stuff in here that I was like, I've seen this
30:29
a lot of times when I was a kid and I just didn't even pick up
30:32
on that. I can't believe this.
30:34
But anyway, so he she's golfing. It says, I need you to take care
30:37
of him. And, and in fact, he says, go
30:39
get changed. I need you to look after James
30:41
Bond, wink, wink, right. So I mean, it's clear that
30:44
that's the goal. But the way that happens is she
30:47
takes him around and they're in the barn or whatever and he goes
30:51
to like a attack her in a, in a, in a fight way.
30:57
And then she flips him and then judos her.
30:59
And then and then and they judo each other back and forth.
31:01
And then he judos her into the hay and then just fucking jumps
31:04
on her and starts making out with her.
31:06
And then it's like like romance music.
31:10
And it's like, fucking hell yeah.
31:13
Yeah, because he doesn't know she's been told to do it.
31:16
No. He just thinks.
31:18
Raping a woman. Physically fighting me and since
31:21
I've overpowered her I'm. Yeah, I I mean, I'm here, I can
31:26
do whatever I want now and. We're in a barn.
31:32
So that was the most egregious until the start of Thunderball
31:36
where he's at the medical clinic and the nurse just gave him a
31:39
check up and he just grabs her and starts kissing.
31:41
And she's like, get the fuck off me.
31:43
And he's like, he's like, no, I just can't help myself.
31:46
It's like, what? You've got to learn, mate.
31:49
You've got to learn. How has James Bond not been
31:53
cancelled by now? Yeah, somebody used to say
31:56
something to. Him.
31:57
We're not the first to say this. There's just, it's just silly.
32:01
Yeah. And then there's, I mean, in all
32:04
of them, it's like he meets a woman and then it's like the,
32:08
it's like the woman's just waiting for him to fuck her
32:11
always. And then he'll make a move.
32:13
And then it's always just like she's like, oh, thank God.
32:15
Finally. Yeah.
32:17
Like now we can. Now we get on with the plot.
32:19
Yeah, no, no, no. Like the woman is like, Oh yes,
32:23
like obviously I'm into Bond. Yes.
32:25
Yeah, like it's just. Maybe just one or two slaps
32:29
first and then, but she gets there.
32:32
Also, I've never seen him reach for a condom.
32:35
So I mean, how many illegitimate children all over the world does
32:38
this man have? I mean, two Gypsy babies at
32:40
least, right? At least, Yeah.
32:43
Yes, but I think the so far the the the nurse in Thunderball is
32:47
the only one to say no, no, stop it.
32:50
Yeah, right. Usually the women are just like,
32:52
oh, let's go. Yeah, I'm into it.
32:54
She's no, I'm a medical professional.
32:56
I'm just doing my job. Yeah.
32:59
This is a conflict of interests. There is I I, I can't remember
33:04
if if Roger Moore is as rapey, but I do know that by the end of
33:09
his tenure he was old enough to be the grandfather of some of
33:13
the women and it's gross to watch.
33:16
There was an interview where he said he stopped doing it because
33:19
they would put him in the, he said they put me in the film
33:21
with these women and he'd be like, I, I was uncomfortable
33:24
with with it. Well, I think this is this is
33:26
ridiculous. That was not even the Tom Cruise
33:29
was Tom Cruise is doing a lot of that as well.
33:32
And then I think Maverick, they sort of went someone a little
33:38
bit. Closer to his age.
33:40
Yeah, it's a little bit more age appropriate, but for a while
33:42
there he was built gross. I mean, he's with Ana Dalmos now
33:49
apparently. Apparently they didn't.
33:51
Blame him. You can blame him.
33:52
No. Well, yeah.
33:54
So it's going to confer the Scientology.
33:58
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've, I mean, for what
33:59
I've read that's happening, I, I don't believe anything I read
34:03
anymore. But so just if, if, if we can
34:07
move on from sex crimes but stay on James Bond.
34:09
Yes, yes, love to. I have some other thoughts that
34:12
aren't sex crime. Related.
34:13
Well, we mentioned today, I mean, you started at the
34:15
beginning, Doctor. Yeah, I haven't seen that for
34:19
two or three years at least. But I remember that one being
34:21
good, and I remember it being refreshingly good because it was
34:25
one of the ones that I'd seen the least, or perhaps saw the
34:28
latest. And I've seen all the crazy
34:32
gadgets and running across crocodiles.
34:34
Yeah. And then you watch Doctor No and
34:36
you're like, oh, this is just an actual.
34:38
Sequence straight. Forward on a mission, it's a
34:40
mystery. It's a nice thriller.
34:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Appreciate that about Doctor No.
34:45
The only thing I was like, it doesn't have a lot of the Bond
34:48
tropes in it. I mean it does, I guess it's
34:51
just doesn't, it's not as like formed yet almost like it's
34:56
quite simple. I guess that's what I.
34:58
Said I need to bond troops otherwise I'd lose interest.
35:02
He goes to Jamaica and he gets, he finds out Doctor Nose there
35:07
and then they get into the base and then it's just over, like I
35:11
said. Oh, OK.
35:13
But I find those tropes so From Russia With Love has what I
35:16
think is the right mix. You know he's got the.
35:19
From Russia with Love is fantastic.
35:20
He's got the the briefcase that's got 3 or 4 different
35:23
little gadgets inside it that all do something.
35:26
Yeah, it's got the gold in the thing, so.
35:30
Yeah, that's right. But then is it the very next one
35:33
after that where he fucking puts on a jet pack in the first in
35:36
the in? The that's in Thunderball, but
35:37
Goldfinger has the Goldfinger is the first appearance of the car,
35:41
which has all the yeah, pop up shielding and the smokescreen.
35:46
So it starts to get that way. For some reason I'm OK with the
35:49
car having all that stuff, but when I saw when, yeah, when I
35:52
watch it's on the board and I see him with that fucking jet
35:56
pack, I'm like. It's insane wind this.
35:58
Pack, that's too much, yeah. You need to find the right level
36:01
like it's. Yeah, So it's yeah, Doctor.
36:06
No. Simple, straightforward, good.
36:07
Rush With Love is excellent. I really enjoy it.
36:09
In fact, I liked it so much that I had it on while I was playing
36:12
No Man's Sky. I watched like an hour of it and
36:15
then I was like, I'm enjoying this so much.
36:18
I actually did want to just watch it.
36:19
So I started it from the start again and I watched it over.
36:22
That's how that's how good it is, is that I could be bothered
36:26
doing that. What is also good is that in
36:30
your mind, you think that in every James Bond movie he fought
36:33
the Russians, but that's not the case at all.
36:36
And in this one he does like this was.
36:39
I mean, it's not all said in Russia.
36:40
In fact, is any of it said in Russia other than?
36:43
Istanbul and then on the train to what are they trying to get
36:46
to? I can't remember see.
36:47
See, in my head, I don't know, he's just fighting everyone, but
36:51
he's just more about sleeping with women.
36:55
I mean, that's part of it. Yeah, is.
36:58
There any problem with From Russia with Love is it doesn't
37:01
have the car and he's got Blofeld.
37:03
Actually first appearance of Blofeld, he's Blofeld is
37:05
mentioned I think in Doctor no or Specter is mentioned at least
37:09
in Doctor no. Yes, but you first introduction
37:12
of Blofeld is From Russia with Love.
37:14
But in the T and. The Goldfinger is what's that?
37:17
Is it in the teaser like the the Oh no, it's when no.
37:20
Blurfield's in quite a bit. He's like, he's like behind the
37:25
scenes of everything because it's a chess player guy whose
37:28
planet is that's right to do everything.
37:30
And then there's the Smash woman, the the Russian defector
37:34
to Spectre. And then that's all Spectre
37:37
doing stuff when Blood felt behind it.
37:39
Maybe I'll just watch these ones because these ones actually
37:43
enjoy. Goldfinger's very good.
37:46
It's very iconic. It I don't think it's the best,
37:49
but it's very. It's too long as well, if you
37:52
ask me. And it's it kind of, you know,
37:55
he's in America and it's just very different to the, to the
37:59
others in, in that way that it's very like, it's a spy, Like
38:04
it's, it's more of it's just a criminal.
38:05
He's trying to steal gold. Yes, yeah.
38:08
It's yeah. I think the big one doesn't make
38:11
me is like Goldeneye. That's the, that's my goal,
38:17
100%. That's my that's my James Bond.
38:20
That's 30 years old this year and it's coming back to cinemas
38:23
and I'm, I'm, I'm kind of thinking maybe I want to see it
38:26
on the big screen again, if only for that opening scene with the
38:29
dam. Yes.
38:31
Yeah, incredible. No, it can't be serious.
38:35
Yeah, it is. You get a little.
38:37
It is going on there, I'm afraid.
38:38
I don't know, I have switched from my hotel Wi-Fi to 5G.
38:42
You try and help. I'll say this though, about
38:46
Goldeneye. It has the worst music of any of
38:50
the Bond films. I don't mean.
38:52
Oh, Goldeneye golfing. I was like, no, golfing is
38:55
great. No, no, no, no.
38:56
Wow. So long, Matt.
38:59
I'm just trying to see if that helps you.
39:01
Still hear me right. We can hear you, yes.
39:03
We could hear you anyway, though your your voice wasn't like it.
39:06
Just your your image. No Goldeneye.
39:11
And I don't mean the song. The song's fine and and actually
39:15
their version of the Bond theme is pretty good too, but just the
39:18
spot music throughout it fucking awful.
39:21
Awful. Well, it's still it's still one
39:25
of my favorite bonds and I don't know why it just I think it's
39:29
the first one that I sort of watched that was that that age
39:32
where I went to the movies and saw it.
39:34
Like, that's why it probably resonates a little bit more.
39:37
Yeah, totally. Agree, and all the other ones
39:41
already felt retro, but that one felt really right now to us when
39:46
we were 15 or whatever it was, whatever it.
39:49
Was. And he was not as rapey and in
39:53
fact the woman in that was quite be on a top.
39:59
Yeah, Famke Jensen. Yeah, Matt, you look like you're
40:01
in the witness protection programme.
40:04
Yeah, what's going on? I think, I actually think it's
40:06
it's a problem with my my phone. Everything else seems to be
40:09
working. Literally my phone is.
40:10
Mine I know the iPhone 14 Pro Max is just not.
40:16
Covered this way on its way out. Maybe that's.
40:18
Finally, there was a brand new one ready, ready and waiting in
40:22
the stores. On the subject of the music, I
40:28
think Doctor No has the theme, but it doesn't have much else
40:32
going for it. From Russia with Love.
40:36
The music's OK Goldfinger is where it starts to get really
40:40
good. Goldfinger.
40:43
Exit soundtrack. It's really good.
40:50
Thunderball. Thunderball in general, right?
40:52
I found to be kind of boring. Yeah, I know people say, some
40:56
people say it's their favorite. I found it to be quite boring.
40:58
I remember it starts with him getting stuck in the sauna and
41:02
that's literally I remember the whole fucking movie.
41:05
Like I don't remember what the actual plot of Thunderball is.
41:07
Oh wait, it's underwater, isn't it?
41:09
Yes, yes, it's got all the underwater stuff.
41:11
And I I know, I'm sure that underwater stuff was really
41:14
complicated and impressive back at the time.
41:16
Like, and there's like a big fight at the end between, you
41:19
know, the, the MI Six team, I guess and the Spectre team
41:23
underwater. And I'm sure logistically that
41:25
was impressive, but it's just kind of boring.
41:27
Well, Satya underwater locus as well.
41:31
No, no, no, no. That's what.
41:32
I'm later. Yeah, that's later.
41:34
I get them all confused. Yeah.
41:37
You need to do a rewatch then all the way through.
41:40
If you can't be bothered doing a rewatch loop, but you do want to
41:43
experience them. There's a YouTube called Dutch
41:45
Bond fan, one word Dutch Bond fan.
41:48
He's this charming young guy. He's like 25.
41:51
He's Dutch, obviously, and he just fucking loves James Bond.
41:56
And he is sarcastic and dry and very witty.
42:01
And he does these 30 to 40 minute long recaps of all of the
42:04
movies, and they're very funny because he's like, you know, he
42:08
meets this girl that he hates anyway, he bangs her.
42:11
And then, you know, like, it's just they're very funny when he
42:15
narrates. Them so even.
42:16
When he knows they're the villain, he's just like, yeah,
42:19
whatever. Why not?
42:21
And who needs a condom? Right, exactly the.
42:26
Problem is my next rear watch is probably going to be Robotech
42:29
because I hide a scooter where where I am at at the moment and
42:32
that just seems to be the music I'm listening to.
42:35
It's it's making me. Speed a little bit but it's fun.
42:38
I would also love to watch Robotech.
42:41
I tried recently to watch Voltron but I've forgotten how
42:47
fucking awful the voice acting is in those.
42:52
Was more also just selling toys as well.
42:57
Yeah. They took 2 Japanese shows and
43:00
mixed them together, right? Isn't that how that came
43:02
together? Yeah, there.
43:03
Was the Lions? And then there was the cars.
43:07
Yeah, that's right. But.
43:08
Even even within that, like there's massive changes because
43:12
they didn't send the scripts, they just sent episodes and they
43:15
just. Visuals and they're like, we
43:17
don't speak Japanese. Figure it out.
43:19
Evidently like there's 2 characters that they just
43:21
decided fuck it, they're one character now.
43:24
Like they look enough, right? But yeah, one well.
43:28
It's the same thing happened, Same thing happened with
43:31
Robotech. It was robotechs, actually,
43:33
because of the way Americans. Come about two type of shows,
43:36
right? Yeah, it was 3 shows that had
43:39
the together because Macross Southern Cross.
43:43
Oh. That's right.
43:45
And I forget what the third one was, but it's because at the
43:47
time in America, you had to have or a cartoon series, you had to
43:50
be 136 episodes or something. Yeah.
43:53
Yeah, yeah. To have a lot of ridiculous
43:56
because it was on every day. Those shows were on every day.
44:00
That's wild. People always talk.
44:03
About screen. Time now and I'm like, mate, we
44:05
we are. I think we used to watch a lot
44:06
of TV in the 80s. Like, yeah, I don't think it's a
44:09
new thing. Look, I do want to say just
44:12
before we move on, Speaking of Japan.
44:14
Right. The one of the most recent that
44:16
I watched, You Only Live Twice. I want to talk about this a
44:18
little bit because I think this is the Bond movie I must have
44:22
watched the most as a kid because I got so nostalgic when
44:27
it, oh, there I am when I put this on, the music is fantastic.
44:33
And really, you know, you know, when you, you know, you watch
44:36
something and you go, I haven't seen this in ages.
44:38
And instantly you get like this wave of nostalgia where you go,
44:40
oh, this one I forgot. I I guess I just watched this a
44:43
lot because I was really interested in Japanese culture
44:45
because I watched Shogun and all that.
44:47
Yeah, yeah. You Only Live Twice is a
44:49
fantastic movie, but it's a little bit problematic and I
44:54
know people are aware of the fact that they make him look
44:58
like a Japanese man in it. There's a sequence in this movie
45:01
where James Bond has to become a Japanese man.
45:04
He has to do it. Mickey Rooney.
45:06
I still Mickey Rooney take a Japanese wife.
45:09
Who? And it's only marginally better
45:11
than the Mickey Rooney portrayal too.
45:12
Like when? You.
45:13
I mean he. He doesn't do the.
45:14
Voice Sean Connery talking about this but.
45:17
And that's emotionally doesn't do an accent.
45:20
And they put little prosthetic things in his eyes to make him
45:22
look Japanese and it and it, and it ends up being pointless
45:26
anyway because they do that so that he can hide in the fishing
45:28
village for a long time to keep an eye on the, the, the bad guys
45:33
because the, the US launches in a week.
45:36
And then they literally the first night he's there, right
45:39
with his fake wife who refuses to sleep with him.
45:42
And then it cuts to later that night and she's asleep on the
45:44
other side of the room and he's just there staring at her in the
45:47
night, going like. Why wouldn't you fuck me?
45:53
So that was creepy. And then and then the guy comes
45:56
in and goes, Oh no, they've moved the launch up tonight.
45:58
It's tonight. It's like this is all pointless
46:01
anyway. Does he still get the fuck up?
46:05
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. She's coming up with yeah, yeah.
46:10
In fact, she. So they go.
46:12
He takes her on a on a boat to this cave that a friend went
46:16
missing in. That's how they find out where
46:17
the base is and all that kind of stuff.
46:18
Anyway, so they're out on a boat.
46:19
He's in his fishing gear. She's in a bikini, of course.
46:22
And then they get on the island. They go out at the volcano,
46:24
she's in the bikini. They find the base.
46:27
He says go back and get Tanaka right forget forgetting or not
46:32
caring that their boat got stuck in The Cave.
46:34
So she next thing is literally her swimming through the ocean
46:37
to get back to mainland Japan to get the Japanese Secret Service.
46:42
This is very funny. But then when she comes back
46:45
with them, she's clothed. But then mysteriously, when they
46:49
leave, when they're running out of the base at the end, she's
46:50
back in her bikini and, and then so she's in the bikini at the
46:55
end in the boat within the. That's right.
46:58
Vote with him. Very funny is it?
47:01
But do you know who wrote this movie?
47:03
Oh, I do. Actually.
47:05
I do know who wrote this movie. I didn't know that it was
47:08
written by Roald. Dahl.
47:09
Roald Dahl. Yeah.
47:10
What? Yeah, isn't that weird?
47:15
And then that apparently that's why it's just so outlandish.
47:17
This is the most outlandish 1 yet and I think sets up so much
47:22
stuff that came later like the volcano base, like the look of
47:27
Blofeld in this I. Think they knew each other?
47:29
I think Roald Dahl and Ian Fleming knew each other.
47:31
I mean, they were contemporaries.
47:33
I think they were in the Secret Service together.
47:36
Really. OK, that would make sense.
47:37
OK. Yeah, I think they were both in
47:38
the Secret Service together like in in World War 2.
47:41
Yeah, yeah. Because from what I understand
47:43
this is it's very different to the book.
47:45
The book doesn't have the plot about I, I don't.
47:49
Think about bikini. It's literally the opening scene
47:53
is like the the US launches a space shut ship and it gets
47:56
eaten by a bigger spaceship. And then later on you see that
48:00
the Spectre spaceship lands like a SpaceX ship back inside the
48:04
volcano. And it's just like so outlandish
48:06
for the the 60s, like on the level that the others never
48:10
never got that outlandish. And now it's true.
48:14
Elon Musk could do that. But that sets up the I think the
48:19
most ridiculous stuff in the later films is because of this
48:22
film. Yeah, right, Right.
48:25
Yeah, yeah. It's got Donald Pleasance as
48:31
Blofeld though, so oh. Yeah, wrong.
48:33
Is that the only? That's the only one.
48:35
Donald Pleasance plays Blofeld. In, I think so, yeah.
48:37
I think after that, I mean in all the others it's been
48:39
different and then it's. Yeah, it's somewhat different.
48:41
Which is everyone. It's a bit unfortunate because
48:42
he's not consistent. Yes, as in even in appearance,
48:46
he's not consistent. It's not someone else with the
48:49
same kind of makeup. Even aren't.
48:50
They not just, yeah, I don't know that's, I mean, you had the
48:52
same money, Penny all the way through.
48:54
You could have really. Yeah, same M, same Q up until a
48:56
point until and. In fact, Felix lighter changes
49:00
and I find this quite disappointing too, because he's
49:03
he's an interesting character. You don't know he's that's
49:05
basically the James Bond from the CIA, you know, And so they
49:09
always cross paths. And yeah, he's.
49:11
Different and they. Flip flop him around.
49:14
Yeah, Goldfinger and Thunderball most noticeably because he's a
49:16
main ish character in this and it's a completely different
49:19
actor and then he's been very Felix.
49:21
You'd never know. Yeah.
49:22
Yeah, that's. Right.
49:23
I wonder why they did that. Was it just like a consequence,
49:26
schedules or money? I think the guy in Goldfinger is
49:31
like an, I guess older and I don't know that you'd buy him
49:35
doing some of the action stuff in Thunderball.
49:37
Maybe that's why they did it. It could also just be that they
49:41
were in a different country and they were just so fucking lazy
49:43
and they didn't care about that kind of stuff.
49:45
They were just like, I don't know who we get.
49:46
As long as Connery's bond, who cares?
49:48
Yeah, yeah. And even then.
49:50
And even then they gave up. Yeah.
49:52
And then and then, but then Lazenby, they're like, oh, we
49:54
better get Connery back. Yeah, because that didn't work
49:58
out. Yeah, and then he did one more
50:01
too. But they don't count that.
50:02
Or do they? Do they count?
50:03
Never say never again. Like if you buy the box set is
50:06
that? No, never say never again is
50:07
not. Counted, not counted as well.
50:09
Just. As came out the same time as
50:11
Octopussy, right? And that's so it doesn't make
50:14
any sense. Yeah.
50:15
Also, it's another remake of Thunderball.
50:18
Yeah, yeah. Directed by Evan Kirchner,
50:21
though, so I'm excited to watch it.
50:22
I am going to watch it, yeah. Yeah.
50:24
I remember it being pretty bad. It's got Rowan Atkinson in it.
50:29
I can't wait, Can't wait. Yeah, on Her Majesty Secret
50:33
Service next, and then I'll be interested to leave just on Her
50:37
Majesty Secret Service. I remember really liking that
50:39
movie so I'm interested to see. Same same.
50:45
But I think now, and also, I mean, why did it not work out
50:49
with Lazenby? Just because he wouldn't cut his
50:51
fucking hair for the premiere? Is that really all it was or did
50:54
I? Think he also didn't want to
50:55
come back, didn't want to. I don't think they sacked him.
50:57
I think they begged him and I think they didn't lock him into
51:00
like the three picture deal they normally do with these.
51:03
You have to promise to do more than one.
51:05
And I think that's because of Lazenby, because he was just
51:07
like, you know what? I've done one, I'm famous now.
51:09
Fuck off. I read that Connery, they had
51:11
him sign up for six and he fucking hated it.
51:14
Like after Thunderball he was like, let me out of this shit.
51:17
Yeah, and like because. He said why he would get.
51:19
Forced him to do. He would get harassed by a
51:21
report by reporters and and women, right?
51:23
And he he apparently hated it. Yeah, right.
51:28
One other thing I learned of interest, He's wearing a wig in
51:32
every Bond film. I had heard that, yeah.
51:34
It's never his real hair. He was always born.
51:37
Always, always like thinning in Doctor No.
51:40
So they put a wing on him and then after that they had to
51:42
because. Yeah, he set precedence.
51:46
Oh, I have some follow up news, which I know is weird because
51:50
I've been so out of the loop for so long.
51:54
Stan Lee. Stan Lee.
51:58
Unaware of him. They've got bad news for you,
51:59
Luke. Yeah, he's dead.
52:01
They. Would and not let him rest?
52:05
Again, what have they done now if they've weakened at Bernie's
52:07
at him? Nearly.
52:09
They're doing an AI version of him, the San Diego Comic Con, so
52:14
you can go and get a photo with him.
52:17
No. And he would interact with you.
52:22
So you will talk. My photo is a real photo.
52:25
Yeah, you can interact with him, he'll responds and no one.
52:29
It's just so disgusting. Because his hand's not down your
52:34
pants. Yeah, that's right.
52:36
His pants. Before we go away from Japan, I
52:39
just want to give a shout out to the Toyota that they drive in
52:42
that movie. Fucking beautiful.
52:44
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's the only bummer about.
52:47
I mean I love the ESTA Martin, the DB5 in particular, although
52:51
I know again I haven't watched it yet, but I believe the DBS
52:53
from Unimaged Seat Reserves is also a beautiful car so I.
52:57
Forget to be honest. We'll see, just let Stanley rest
53:02
in peace. I yes, I guess the AI Stanley
53:06
would probably hear better than the real one did.
53:08
Yes, you might be yourself. You can go and talk to him, but
53:11
if you go and talk to him about your story, you might actually
53:14
go. What not?
53:19
The AI Stanley. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
53:23
Yeah, he did. He did hear what I said.
53:25
I just don't think he understood what I said.
53:27
Yeah, you might get a better response this time I.
53:31
Mean I was happy with what I got.
53:32
Funny. Yeah, Definitely.
53:33
Definitely. But even back then, just let him
53:36
rest. Yes, a blanket on him, sit him
53:39
in the floor chair, roll him out on the balcony.
53:44
Yeah, but you know, I just thought it briefly not.
53:46
Balcony at a yes unless he really needed the money.
53:50
I think the same about Tim Curry.
53:51
Unless, unless it's he's asking for it and he wants the money,
53:54
leave him at home. Unless he's asking for it, what
53:57
he's trying to say, Dan. He dresses so preocatively,
54:03
that's true. With contemporary Bond news
54:08
quickly, Denis Villeneuve has said fucking stop.
54:13
I'm casting somebody you've never heard of as Bond, and I'm
54:16
doing it. When I'm finished with Dune,
54:17
stop talking about. It Yeah, I haven't even decided
54:19
yet. Yeah, it's good.
54:20
It's not. There is no news on that front,
54:22
so. We do know who's writing it
54:24
though, right? We they announced a writer.
54:27
Who was that? You know what?
54:28
I think that's true. I think it's written.
54:33
Let's see, does it say in this article?
54:39
Steven Knight? Yeah.
54:44
OK. But yeah, he'll he'll announce
54:46
it when he's ready, when he's decided who it's going to be.
54:51
Knight will be going back to Fleming's earliest novels Casino
54:54
Royale, Live and Let Die, Moonraker, Diamonds are Forever
54:56
from Russian with Love, Doctor No and Goldfinger.
54:58
Maybe we know when they're going to are they even sure when
55:02
they're going to start filming? Like is it I mean?
55:05
Denny Williams has said we're not doing anything until I've
55:07
finished with Dune. Yeah.
55:10
Which is fine, I like Bond, but I also like June so do a good
55:13
job of June. That's fine.
55:15
Yeah. And I appreciate the fact that
55:17
he's like, stop speculating. There's nothing to know at this
55:20
point. I cannot believe how wrong I was
55:22
with June. Yeah.
55:26
Look, Speaking of, I want to talk about this, what's going on
55:32
over at Microsoft, Luke, because there's an article this week
55:36
that says Costco has confirmed they're not going to be selling
55:41
Xbox consoles anymore. And other retailers have also
55:44
weighed in, like EB Games and said, yeah, we're probably not
55:48
either. Is this your prediction about
55:50
them moving away from consoles, or is there something more going
55:53
on here? What's going on?
55:54
I'm not sure I I know I'm about to pre-order the new handheld
55:58
PC. The Rog, The Rog, The Rog.
56:01
'S Li whatever it what it is, I'm going to pre-order next that
56:04
comes out this month, but that's all I know.
56:07
But I have yeah. I don't know, I think maybe just
56:12
because are people buying consoles anymore at the moment
56:16
apart from the switch to? I think people are buying the
56:19
switch to and they're buying the PS-5 Pro.
56:22
I think that's what's happening. And I wonder, well, I'd say I
56:25
don't. I've been out of this
56:27
conversation for so long that it wasn't until this article and
56:31
and some other conversation about it that I realised is
56:35
there even. Is this still a console war?
56:38
There's not, and that's what Microsoft is trying to get away
56:41
from because they're actually saying everything is an Xbox you
56:46
can play. Sure.
56:48
On your phone, your computer, you can stream all the games and
56:53
that's their goal. It's just is.
56:55
This an Xbox, Microsoft? Is this an Xbox?
56:57
What are you talking about? Yes, it is, and you don't even
56:59
know. Yes, just.
57:02
Play on your fridge. I don't know, but I am getting a
57:06
bit nervous because I need the achievements.
57:09
That's what. Achievements cannot go away.
57:11
We were chatting, you know, I've got a PS-5 in the lounge room
57:14
that I forgot I have. Sometimes I can move that in
57:17
here. Did you buy that you just
57:18
straight out bought Bought that I can't remember.
57:20
Yeah, like years ago I did. Yeah, yeah.
57:23
I bought it for. I mean, you had APS three you
57:25
traded for some beer or something, but this one you
57:27
just. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:28
No no PS5I specifically got the PS-5 with the VR thing so I
57:33
could play Gran Turismo 7 and that was.
57:35
Did you get the disc version or the disc list?
57:38
Of GT7, I got the disc version of of the of the console of of
57:43
yeah, yeah yeah, disc, yeah yeah disc.
57:48
But I don't have a pro because that's fucking 800 bucks or
57:51
something that I'm not. And you mean you don't use the
57:54
fire I, I? Literally forget that it exists.
57:56
It's in the living room and I forget it exists.
57:58
I learned a lesson on that. Except maybe now that's what I
58:01
should be playing on. But it's done the relief for me,
58:04
it's fine for. Dan, I guess that's fine if Dan,
58:06
you know, wants to pony up and get a PlayStation, you know,
58:08
that's really the only barrier for the two of us is cost for
58:11
you it's. Achievements.
58:14
You've got a lot of you're invested in the ecosystem.
58:18
Like I can't, I can't take achievements away from me.
58:20
I don't know what I would do. I've got two things in my life.
58:24
First service 2. Things in my life, these
58:28
podcasts and achievements. That's it.
58:31
Don't. Put that on Dan and I.
58:33
Yeah, that's right. My two things take them both
58:38
away from me. There is some exclusives on
58:42
PlayStation over the years that have definitely tempted me.
58:46
They have and like the uncharted series got a war and I actually
58:50
remember buying APS 3 spider man left for dead and that's spider
58:56
man. I need to play that.
58:57
That's Spider Man. Yeah, I do want to play the
58:59
Ghost of Yoni. Yeah, no, there's some good
59:03
stuff on there 500, but I just yeah, so.
59:07
You can get one from here that's not too bad.
59:10
I don't have. That because how many years
59:11
people have been saying, oh, Sony won the console wars.
59:14
I'm like, did they? I think I just, I like, I just
59:16
bought a Series X, you know, in 2020 when they came out and then
59:20
I just played games and I didn't think about it, but I guess.
59:24
I think the console walls are actually dead.
59:27
They're they're not a thing. I think Sony keep wanting it to
59:30
be a thing. Xbox now just going.
59:34
We'll release our games on Sony, it's fine.
59:37
And I get Final Fantasy 7 next year.
59:39
I'm looking forward to Sonic Hill and Xbox and F Sun Hill.
59:45
F yeah, yeah, OK. The remake of 2 is not on.
59:50
Remake of Xbox, right? That's right.
59:53
Correct. Well, no, I, I, I am worried
59:56
that's all I'm going to say. I don't want to get into it
59:58
because I've not, I'm out of the loop.
59:59
I've not been reading any news for two months.
1:00:02
Can I tell you, I replayed, I replayed the original Silent
1:00:05
Hill like earlier this year or late last year on the Retroid
1:00:10
and it's fucking great. Like it's still just fucking I
1:00:14
think. Excellent.
1:00:15
My only complaint about those is the controls are you get.
1:00:19
Used to it though. And they also design, they kind
1:00:21
of design around that, like the difficulty level of the game is
1:00:25
tied to the controls being shitty in some cases.
1:00:27
Yeah. Like if it was really like
1:00:29
fluid, it wouldn't be hard. You could just run through it.
1:00:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you hear that.
1:00:33
Noise. And there's a fucking zombie
1:00:35
baby coming at you. Yeah, and you just cannot turn
1:00:39
around. Sure.
1:00:39
Remember playing that came the first time you hear that noise
1:00:42
and you go oh shit, everything is going to change and knowing
1:00:47
even. Yeah, so good.
1:00:53
Great, great game. So you put Peanut morphed down
1:00:58
the bottom. That's going to be the name of
1:00:59
this episode, isn't it? Yeah, it is.
1:01:01
Yeah, I already know what I'm going to do for the image too.
1:01:07
Is it got a mouth and it's going to be a Dick, a big Dick with a
1:01:10
little Dick. Coming out of it, dribbling into
1:01:15
Sigourney Weaver's face. Oh.
1:01:17
No, no Alien 3 bit where it's. Like that's just a That's a
1:01:25
picture for rule rule 34. You can put that on there.
1:01:29
That definitely exists. Rules.
1:01:32
Yeah, definitely. What's?
1:01:36
We did an episode where we had a RoboCop penis, didn't we?
1:01:40
As the thumbnail. I remember that, I remember.
1:01:43
I do remember. Creating that.
1:01:46
Robo clock? Yeah, I think that does ring a
1:01:48
bell. So, you know, we can do one very
1:01:52
similar to that. Yeah, I Google this.
1:01:58
Oh, Matt's gone. He's gone down to the disgusting
1:02:03
rabbit. Hole.
1:02:04
This is Xenomorph. Yeah.
1:02:08
Completely turned off now. Yeah.
1:02:14
So have you not watched the Mandalorian Grogu trailer then?
1:02:18
Like. No, I haven't watched it.
1:02:20
You have watched it all right, I.
1:02:22
Don't like I watched? The trailer.
1:02:24
Not watching, not watched YouTube, not read any news.
1:02:27
I've been just radio silent. Good on you for two months.
1:02:30
Good on you. Yeah.
1:02:33
Well, I mean, it looks like the TV show.
1:02:34
I'll just say that in a way that maybe go, OK, I just I don't
1:02:38
care it. Shouldn't just remain the TV
1:02:41
show? I have a feeling because all of
1:02:43
this is going to be the. First episode of the third
1:02:46
series and when this is not for me.
1:02:48
It's going to be a. It doesn't wear a lot like it.
1:02:51
It just looks like the show too. Like it's not.
1:02:53
I don't know. There's something about it that
1:02:55
was. Going to be my question, have
1:02:56
they? I thought if anything was going
1:02:59
to get me, maybe they've just done this so well.
1:03:01
It's like cinematically or something.
1:03:03
Yeah, it looks different. No, because that's what I'm
1:03:07
saying. That's the problem is that the
1:03:08
TV show already looked pretty good.
1:03:09
And so now, yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's weird.
1:03:13
But yeah, I don't know. I don't care about this.
1:03:17
Unfortunately, no good. I thought you were going to say,
1:03:20
oh it's fucking great in the year and it's not no good.
1:03:23
OK, I will go to a movie for you.
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It's got a little Babu Frick looking guy in it but.
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OK, well I hate that guy. Babu Frick was the only good
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thing about. I hated him, but you know, just
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trying to do a Baby Yoda. Yeah.
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Everyone loved him and I was not.
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Yeah, and only looks allowed to do Baby Yoda.
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Yeah, Yep. You know, Build 1.
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Remember, give me $10,000 and I'll build it for you.
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Yeah. Or if you do have $10,000, you
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can become a patron patreon.com/that's.
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That's how much it costs to become a patron.
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I'm just saying if you have $10,000 to burn.
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Oh, you can spare it to us a couple of bucks a month.
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Yeah, sure. Yeah, you give some of it our
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way. patreon.com/multiple logasm or multiple logasm.com.
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Follow the links, $5 a month will get you the after party,
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which is the rest of the show. The main check and end pretty
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much after this plug. You don't have to have that
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get on the Patreon feed. Do it or you can just join and
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That's OK, but you can. The news is we do.
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This you can just if you are on Patreon, you can just follow us
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and then. The problem with doing a show as
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frequently as we do and living normal grown up lives like we do
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is that we just talk about everything on this show.
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So there's nothing to put in news updates because you hear it
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every week. So I mean this is.
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This is the NEWS UPDATE, yeah. Every Patreon gets a hug from
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me, OK? Unrelated to the money you're
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spending though. Unrelated, you slip you.
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Into the straw and he will hug you.
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You'll know the true meaning of the word patchamorph I.
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Have actually hugged a lot about listeners.
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All right, we're trying to attract people to the Patreon
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like so do. You think that's not attracting
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them? Now I'm just saying you maybe
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want. To make clear that.
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They can opt out of the hug if they don't want to.
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Ishugofvirgin.com taken properly is.
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Virgin.com. I do have one more thing I want
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to say about Star Wars, but I'm going to leave that for the
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after party because I know that our our patrons love it when I
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go on and on about what I do and do not like about Star Wars.
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We'll see you there. Why?
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