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Patriots Unfiltered 10/25: Top Takeaways from Loss to Bears, QB Situation, Defensive Issues · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: we're here. But we were planning on having this show anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so always. Yeah, So it's really a continuation of the
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  Speaker 1: postgame show because, you know, not a lot of new
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  Speaker 1: waste than one. Yeah, I mean, not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: new information since last night builded his morning hit um
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  Speaker 1: with Ei in you know, really just sticking to his guns,
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  Speaker 1: not really not naming who the starter is. And I'm surprised,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I really thought he would. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just thought an easy way to to just kind of
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say bury this game, but kind
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  Speaker 1: of put this game behind you would just be come
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  Speaker 1: out and say, we got Mac a little work last night.
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  Speaker 1: We're feeling good about the direction he's in. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I do, I do acknowledge maybe there's some health stuff
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  Speaker 1: that they are still working through, but if it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be close, just give him the confidence, name him
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  Speaker 1: the starter, put all this to bed this week, Let
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  Speaker 1: everybody focus on the Jets. And but it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like that's what they're gonna do. I agree. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe a practice it'll be evident to the
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  Speaker 1: team that macks the starter, but if they got to
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  Speaker 1: read between the lines and themselves. You know, we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about it before the show, and we knew what
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen if Mac didn't play well with the fans.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a human being. You know, after two series,
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  Speaker 1: you're yelling for your backup. That's that's gonna stick. That
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  Speaker 1: that that's got to leave a mark, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: some you know players will take that and use it
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  Speaker 1: as motivation and get mad and you know, but other players,
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  Speaker 1: you know, will be resentful, and you we don't know
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  Speaker 1: which one it's gonna be from Mac. I think it'll
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  Speaker 1: be a little both. I think he'll fight. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a competitor. I don't think he'll tuck tail. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't think he'll ever forget it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I don't mean like giving up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, will he ever forgive? You know, now
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  Speaker 1: if he plays so well that, you know, the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: are like, you know, you're our guy. You know we
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  Speaker 1: want to give you, you know, six years, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars. Yeah, I mean I think he'll
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  Speaker 1: he'll forgive then. But yeah, let's just say it's sort
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  Speaker 1: of he remains like that kind of good quarterback. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I could be a good quarterback and get money somewhere
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  Speaker 1: else I don't need, you know. Yeah, right, but there's
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  Speaker 1: no ignoring the noise. I mean even Jacobe Myers mentioned
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  Speaker 1: after the game he didn't think it was fair after
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  Speaker 1: all the work he had put in, that that was
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  Speaker 1: the treatment that he got. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's why I put the fans on the bad
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  Speaker 1: list last night, Freddie. Yeah, I think they exacerbated the situation.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it ultimately started. Mike had the first bad
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  Speaker 1: and coaches the plan. Yeah, I think was flawed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I you know, we like we talked about it last night.
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  Speaker 1: We we got you know, rumblings of it before the
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  Speaker 1: game that that was what was going to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: I said from the get go, if that's the plan,
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  Speaker 1: I do not like it. Yeah, I do not like it.
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  Speaker 1: Curse I do not enforce. And I'm telling you, if
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  Speaker 1: Mack had come out and lit it up, they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have taken him out. They would have maybe maybe if
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  Speaker 1: the score was the other way toward the end, you
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  Speaker 1: take him out, you know, just to avoid any you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fourth quarter injury or something like that. But
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  Speaker 1: you know they weren't going to take him out if
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  Speaker 1: he was playing really well. Now that would be that
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  Speaker 1: that's this doesn't make sense. How how bad was that
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  Speaker 1: interception he threw? You know, when I first saw it,
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  Speaker 1: like I saw it, I saw a Smith open. But
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  Speaker 1: in order to get it to Smith, you had to
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  Speaker 1: avoid a bunch of guys who were converging. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, so he was in a space but he
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  Speaker 1: was you're right, yeah, well you described was right. He
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  Speaker 1: was open quote unquote, but there were three guys around him.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't throw a laser because you had to get
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  Speaker 1: it over at least one guy, and you know he's
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  Speaker 1: not he's pedaling, he's back pedaling. He floats it over
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  Speaker 1: and by the time the ball got there, there were
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  Speaker 1: three guys on Smith, you know, So it was everything
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping that he wouldn't do. When he came back,
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  Speaker 1: it just looked exactly like what it was before, which
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  Speaker 1: was forcing a ball into coverage off his back foot
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  Speaker 1: like it was, it had no chance. And it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm all for what you guys said about the fan,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, like as just for me,
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  Speaker 1: I was incredibly frustrated watching him come out and pick
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  Speaker 1: up exactly where he left off against Baltimore in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the turnovers. And it just depends what you think
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  Speaker 1: of mac Jones to me, Like when Bill decided, Like
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  Speaker 1: as the weekend went on, it was seemed apparent that
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  Speaker 1: mac Jones was going to start. That's what most of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, see, he's expected to start, he's expected
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  Speaker 1: to play, and I think the fans sort of got
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  Speaker 1: on board, well that's what Bill's doing, so that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Um And then the first sign of trouble,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, give us a ZAPPI. Yeah, Like, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think if Mac like that? To me is
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  Speaker 1: the bottom line. If you thought Mac was a franchise
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  Speaker 1: quarterback after what he did last year, you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: looking to change, right, And I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that are looking to change. It's deuces,
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  Speaker 1: Paul to me and to MARRAWI, how you doing stand? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't run. I drove you filmed up unfiltered this morning?
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  Speaker 1: We did. Yeah, it was it was a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Paul really got animated. We could have used a filter,
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  Speaker 1: would have liked it. Yeah, yeah, I got down, I
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  Speaker 1: come behind and hold you back, you know. Oh you
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  Speaker 1: Robert like he's writ in that pantheum right. It was
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  Speaker 1: I'm unconscious right now. It was like six Beth was
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  Speaker 1: What time did you get to sleep too? I went
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  Speaker 1: to bed at two, woke up at nine. I'd be
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  Speaker 1: fine too, that's a regular night sleep. Oh good morning.
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  Speaker 1: I got to bed at three and I was up
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  Speaker 1: at six. I see for me, I need about like
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  Speaker 1: ten hours. You know what I got, Paul? You know
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: the you know this sound, The sounds like a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: year old boy stomping just woken up into the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: like his morning pete. Like, I'm half asleep and I
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  Speaker 1: just like stomping in. You know there's no there's no
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy it. I get the dog licking me. Just god,
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  Speaker 1: you got to take him for a walk. At him outside, No,
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  Speaker 1: he had already been up, but he just you know,
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  Speaker 1: he likes my taste. Oh my gosh. I just this
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of the conversation of Buffalo wings and all right,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. Oh yeah, I heard that story. It's nice,
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  Speaker 1: little love it e there, get away from that game
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  Speaker 1: for a second tomorrow. We you know, I said, this
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  Speaker 1: show is like a continuation of the postgame show. But
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  Speaker 1: you weren't on the show, So what do you what?
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  Speaker 1: Were you as shocked as we were what happened? I
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: was it almost felt like I couldn't believe what my
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  Speaker 1: eyes saw. Yeah, and I honestly thought the Bucks lost
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  Speaker 1: to the Panthers. I was like, nothing could be worse
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  Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, last night it might have been worse
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  Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, just because coming into that game, like
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  Speaker 1: it was really nothing about the Bears that really scared me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously justin fields, you know what he's capable of.
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  Speaker 1: But that was arguably his best game of his NFL
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  Speaker 1: career that I saw last night, and I just it
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  Speaker 1: was disappointing. It seems like the exact moment it was
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  Speaker 1: just like disappointing. Was disappointing because he was starting to
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  Speaker 1: get confidence with you, and you know, it just felt
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  Speaker 1: like they took a step backwards. Yeah, it's funny. My
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  Speaker 1: mom texted me after our pregame show. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you made your key to the game.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be stupid, And I'm like well, I called her afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: was like, and what did they do in the game, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just I felt like they hit the snooze button
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  Speaker 1: on the Bears. I didn't listen to. Yeah, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't add it off. I think stupid. Didn't protect
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  Speaker 1: the ball, nothing, nothing, They didn't they didn't scare the bear.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, like to Tamearith play like I kind
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  Speaker 1: of had settled into like a feeling, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: of like I think they're going to be pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was getting back to the place of like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, they might not make a playoff run or anything,
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  Speaker 1: but this is twenty twenty one again. They're gonna beat
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  Speaker 1: the bad teams and they will take care of the
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  Speaker 1: teams that they're better. That's what I was thinking. And
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  Speaker 1: then and then as it got to be ten nothing,
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: I was a little intrigued, just because I still thought
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  Speaker 1: this is a terrible team. I think they'll get they'll
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  Speaker 1: turned around, they'll score a touchdown, maybe we'll come back
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: for once, and and and Mike kept saying he wanted
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  Speaker 1: He was like I want this team to like have
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  Speaker 1: to play from behind so we can really see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what they're capable of. And I literally rolled my chair
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  Speaker 1: over to Mike and I was like, hey, ten, nothing
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  Speaker 1: like this is what you wanted to see, this type
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  Speaker 1: of adversity, like the team playing from behind and not
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  Speaker 1: having the lead in the beginning. Yeah, and then we
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: all probably thought the same things that becomes in it's
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  Speaker 1: four ten ten, And I think everybody maybe was like
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: even me and maybe perhaps Paul who had been hesitant
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  Speaker 1: to like pump the zappy train. But I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's just something special about this kid, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna roll in this game and we're gonna win,
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna put up forty points in these guys.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for that brief moment, I think you thought that,
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  Speaker 1: and you felt the energy in the stadium. Oh god,
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  Speaker 1: the place was going crazy. There was an electricity. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I literally rolled my chair over to Mike and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not coming to work to America and coming down
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: with the fever. So one thing that kind of stuck
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  Speaker 1: out cleared up in the fourth quarter is like, you know,
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: like you had said, like, you know, I still I
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  Speaker 1: thought they were sort of settling into that team that
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  Speaker 1: was going to beat the teams that they were better
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  Speaker 1: than they weren't better than that team last night. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: that that was to me the eye opening things like Chicago,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: I think is a not a talent rich roster, but
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: their players were better than your players last night physically hard.
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  Speaker 1: They just out physical the Patriots, and you something that
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: kind of got lost under the radar because of the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback situation everything, the fact that Jamie Collins started what
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  Speaker 1: is that saying? It's what is that saying here? Because
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: and I listen, Judon, I think had a good game,
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  Speaker 1: not like he's the only guy that I could even
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  Speaker 1: muster to put on the good list. So I'm not
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: trying to tell you this game last night was Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Collins's fault. But I think you can look and say,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: like two and a half sacks, he had a past
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: defense that turned into the Miles Bryan interception. What a
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: great game. I don't think he had a great game
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  Speaker 1: last night. Now statistically he did, but I thought there
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: was a lot of slamming down inside looking for sacks
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  Speaker 1: and allowing justin fields to get around him. And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that's one of the things that Bill said.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I want to get Collins out there because I think
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: he might be able to better now at then hindsight,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: it was not a good move. I didn't even notice
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Collins all night. Well, I noticed him once when
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  Speaker 1: he bit and got burned. Yeah, and Judon consistently allowed
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  Speaker 1: Fields to get around him. I think he settled down
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit in that regard with his discipline in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, and he made Fields make some decisions
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't just easily get around him. But I
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: wonder if that had something to do with it. Was
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: it because of Fields that Collins was out there? I
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: don't I can't tell you that with certainty, but that
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  Speaker 1: would be my guess. I mean, it's hard to say,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm reading between the lines. It just felt like
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: they thought it was going to be a physical, upfront,
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  Speaker 1: ground and pound kind of game, and that they were
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to rotate a lot of guys in it.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed to me my impression was that let's hold
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  Speaker 1: off on Judeon for like, got to have it passing
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  Speaker 1: plays and you know, kind of make him a little
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: bit more situational, rather than making him deal with every
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: first and second down having to stop the run and
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  Speaker 1: set the edge and getting them all tired out, spread
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  Speaker 1: out the load a little bit between Jennings and Collins
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  Speaker 1: and him, But I mean, you know, and I guess
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  Speaker 1: to some degree it worked because he's continued to be
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: productive here but not nobody else's really you know, like
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: before the game, it's like, oh, it's good to see
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Lawrence guy back, you know, and I figured they'd be okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he did. He ended up playing seventy percent of
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the snatch, so it's not even like he got much
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  Speaker 1: of a rest. I mean, what was he like eighty
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  Speaker 1: percent last year? Who judo Juda? Yeah? Probably yeah, so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I I just think in retrospect it probably
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  Speaker 1: didn't work, and Collins didn't play much, you know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: two snaps, So I don't know. I mean to answer
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  Speaker 1: your original question, Fred, I, I just don't know why
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  Speaker 1: they did it, but I'm guessing it had something to
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: do with Fields. But I also, like we talked about
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: it when we just taped to the TV show, you know,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: and Bill said, you know, they don't really have any
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: design runs with Justin Fields, and they had a lot
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: of last had a lot of design runs for him
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  Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, a lot of like option runs type
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: of thing, you know. I mean, he always says, Bill
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: always says after every loss, you know, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: starts with the coaching. We got a coach him better.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Last night was a game that he was not wrong,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: but the coaching was a big part of the problem
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: last night. They were unprepared for what Chicago was doing,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: and their decision to do what they wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: offensively did not put his team in the best position
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I I mean,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: my thing was just just didn't look ready to match
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: the energy the Bears, and the Bears seem like they
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: came in here and wanted to win right from the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: get go. It was just way we had a game.
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  Speaker 1: When they scored the touchdown to make it ten nothing,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: their sideline exploded, and I was like, and they were
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: like not affected by because I think they looked at
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: it like they got the two touchdowns because we missed
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: a wide open guy and they got a hand on
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  Speaker 1: a pass. We can move the ball. I think they
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: were kind of unaffected by the fourteen point, right, you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people probably felt like, Okay, now,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: slow start, we spotted them ten. Well, well, you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: we'll win thirty one to ten. I think a lot
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of people were feeling that way. Chicago. I don't think
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: ever looked at it that way. They immediately got the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: ball and won seventy five yards and retook the lead,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: forced to turn over on the Zappie fumble, and then
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: went back down and got another field goal, and then
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: got the ball to start the second half and had
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: another long drive. Like they were just unaffected by those
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns that the Patriots got. Yeah, disappointing is the word.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Why can't the defense with the mobile quarterbacks? I mean,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I go back to my first year in
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen with Lamar when they first kind of got
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Lamar that first time. I mean, you know, you know
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be dealing with Buffalo and Miami
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: and not that Miami's mobile. But it's just these these
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: problems keep popping up, and it's just every time they
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: look like, who we don't know what to do again.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: It just seems like to play last too long, like
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you know, against the Patriots, these mobile quarterbacks are able
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to buy time and by that time, everybody's so spread out,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: there's huge running lanes. You know, you got to get
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to him faster. You can't, I don't know, you can't
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: play that zero technique you know, where you're just taking
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: up space and allow this guy to run around back
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: there and make room for himself and buy time and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: all that, and you can't cover forever, you know. Um,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and eventually he's gonna find huge open lanes to run,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you know, because everybody's so spread out by the time
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the play breaks down. You know, I don't know, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: like what do I know? But it just seems like
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: other teams are able to do a little bit better
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: against mobile quarterbacks, you know, And what do we do
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that's different? Well, we you know, we insist on those
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: big guys, you know, filling up two gaps and not
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: being aggressive, just taking up space, and that seems to
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: be one of the thing core principles of our defense
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that a lot of other teams don't do. Yeah, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And that's the conundrum that like you favor these bigger players,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but you can't stop the run, like you know, like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: like we we always talk we need to get smaller,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: faster linebackers sideline to sideline. All right, that's fine, but
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you know you've got these big body guys Carl Davis,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you know, Devon Godcha, Jawan Bentley in the middle. They
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: can't stop the run. They haven't been able to stuff
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the run for three four years now, so like something's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: got to change, Like you keep going with these big guys,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and like, so if you can't stop the run with
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the big guys, then why are you going with big guys?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Like just go with small guys and be faster. And
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to stop the run anyway, I'd
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: at least like to be fast and be able to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: deal with some of the speed that you have to
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: deal with right now, Yeah, because like the speed that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: they have that they don't seemed like they play those
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guys a ton. But I mean, like the livebackers, you know, well,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you was hurt last night, but he's been there, he
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: hasn't He hasn't played that much. Mac Wilson plays a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: little bit, Ray Kua McMillan plays a little bit, but
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you don't really notice them. Bentley and and I'm not
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: picking on because I actually think he's played reasonably well
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the last year. I mean I didn't notice so much
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: last night, but he flashed on one play where he
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: caused some pressure, and I think they have some mismatched
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: parts still. Yeah, it's I mean, it's a process. You
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: can't just rebuild it and get it the way you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: wanted immediately. And it's been a couple of years. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: think they're still reworking the roster a little bit. Yeah, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. We talked about it last night.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: They're not a good team, you know, in order to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: be Patriots, in order to be a good team, you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: have to be good consistently. Unless you're something consistently, you're
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: not that whatever it is, bad or good. I think
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: they're a team that plays good sometimes and plays really
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: poorly sometimes. They're an inconsistent team. At this point, Well,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I just to me, when I think of consistent, like
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that starts with a quarterback. I need you to make
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a decision. Pick one, don't play both, Like when you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: have two, you have none, So pick one. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: because it's hard to as much as you say, like
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you can do this narrative like oh, like the preparations
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the same for both quarterbacks. We don't have to tweet it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: We don't change it. Yes you do, so pick one.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I don't At this point, I don't care who you pick.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Just pick one who you're comfortable with the rest of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the season. No more of this like, oh, we're gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: pull Mac Jones put Bailey, and we're gonna pull Bailey
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: put Mac. No pick one. Yeah. I just the consistency thing.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And that's another like how do they look so good
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: against certain bad teams and so inapt against quality teams
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like I just and it's been consistent. It's not like
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: one year, Oh this is one team that just they
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: were kind of front runners. It's different personnel now. I mean,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you've gotten rid of a lot of guys. I mean
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. And and here's I don't trust them.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know when I will ever trust them. And
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: here's something to keep an eye on and your ears on.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's the locker room. Other than Mac, it
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem anyone knew of the plan last night, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to really listen and pass words,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but it seems like guys were a little bit bewildered
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: at at what transpired. You know, Myers Steve I was
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: at Myers locker last night when he was talking to media,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and he literally said he was shocked when Mac was
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: pulled as fast as he was, but he said, that's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, it's well, it's the NFL, but it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it's also how how are my teammates being treated? You know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: first first thing is how am I being treated? That's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: always their first thing, you know. But then that could
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: happen to me, you know. Um, So believe me they
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they pay attention to everything and and keep an eye
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: on this, because I will be shocked if it's not
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: one apparent to the team who the starting quarterback is
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: for the Jets. I'll be shocked me too, if I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: thought I would be too. But I'm already borderline shocked
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that we don't know right now. Yeah, like I thought
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: when he talked to the media this morning, he would say,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, we had a chance to
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: see Mack. He came out of the game physically. Okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you know, he'll he'll be the starter. It's a short week,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: so tomorrow is game planned day. And I'm with you, Paul,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but I'll be even doubly shocked if by tomorrow at
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: four o'clock we don't know who the starting quarterback with you, Jet,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that he would look at
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: that in retrospect. He won't admit it to us, he
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to, but I think he would say that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the way he handled it last week was not in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the best interest of the team. Also, Fred, back to
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: what you said about, you know, paying attention to just
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the little things. One thing we talked about in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: pregim show, which I don't know if you guys talked
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: about it again on the post game was um Isaiah
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: went and how he scrubbed his whole Instagram and then coincident,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, so another player did
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the same thing last night. Um scrubbed his whole Instagram
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and Damon Harris, Oh really, scrubbot whole instagram, changed profile picture,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: deleted all his Patriots photos and why Yeah, and he
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: put a few back on there this morning. But it
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: was just very odd and it was just like, what
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a weird thing to do right after the game. Maybe
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: he feels like I need to start over or something
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like that, but but it's weird. Next thing, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the house is for sale. Isaiah win Um. I'm obviously
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: he was limited all week in practice, but I still
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: think it's odd that his his Patres scrubbed and then
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't play well. I wonder, like, you know, people speculate,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and they should if he's being held out, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: because they might want to move him. I mean, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I just said, and I did push back a little
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: on tomorrow last night in the pregame. He didn't play
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: because he was hurt. But that doesn't mean that he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: also is not on the block, like I think Tamara
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and I both can be right here right like he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: he might be battling an injury that they said, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: know what you're not you're not playing well, and in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the back of their mind they're like, and we're going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to move you in a week, right. I don't think
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they'll move them because who wants them? Yeah, but well,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you know you you say that, but like, let's go
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: back to the agents. The agents and other teams here
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: say you know, he's he's not being he's not being
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: used the right way, blah blah blah. They moved him
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to right tackle they didn't. But I think that's why
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you get the scrubbing of the stuff. So then you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: get the other teams that their ego bring them over here,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: we'll get them, right, you know, right, But a lot
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: of Patriots have done that. But if he's right, what
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: is he is? My point? I know, pro Bowl guard,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but he's a left guard. Okay, can you say it
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like he's not that I think he is, Like we're
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: four years in. He's not what you thought here because
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they haven't used them that way they should. He's a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: left guard. He's a pro Bowl guard. They might need
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a left guard. I just think it's weird. Why what's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: wrong with cold strange? We'll see what happens if David
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Andrews is out this week. Because David Andrews holds his
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: hand on every place, true. I just think it's Oh
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and he deleted pictures again? Oh jeez, oh boy, Harris. Yes,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he only got three carries, so maybe he's and he
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was healthy like they he wasn't like he was renewed
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: from the injury point. You know, who knows. I don't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: know like this, I just think is this the thing? Now?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That's that was my question. It's like I would rather
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like leave the pictures up there so then no one
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: knows if something is going. Oh no, they're acting out
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: children because because threebo did that debo scrubbed his page
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of everything forty nine ers until and that's his whole
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: situation and then now it's bad, it's acting out. Is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that how you tell someone like, you know, no, Bill,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I'm good, Damian, you you're you're still You're still still
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like okay, all right, it's I'll show you, right, sub
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's just so how you're doing, like I guess. So
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, because I erson you do that when you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: break up with your girlfriend boyfriend, you delete your whole
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: page and change your profile chets page. I just it's weird,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you know, weird. Just another thing I wanted to bring
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: up was do you think that there's something to be
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: said for like maybe given the team the opportunity to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: kind of come and play for Mac Jones who got
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: booed by his own fans here, like, you know, if
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: he really is the guy, I would I would hope
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that on the team there's some sense of like this
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: guy has been like organizing offseason, he's a captain, let's
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: rally around this guy and play for him. Like I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: don't get that sense at all, And it seems like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it's being fed too, because nobody really knows what's going on.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So I got the sense with Myers anyway, I mean
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I agree at least like words. I mean, with his
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: words he supported, He's like supported. I mean, it's thanks,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: but that's SNAFL so good luck. I just that's that's tough.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean, I think everybody, except for maybe
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the people booing him, felt a little bit bad for
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for Mac. Class last night. There was a lot of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that on Twitter. Hard when when when Zappy came in
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and immediately threw a touchdown, there was like five or
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: six people are like I kind of feel bad for Mac, Right, yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I did. I literally texted my family. I was like,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine just like internally being booed off and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: then hearing my backup come in and he their cheers
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a chance for him, he scores a touchdown, right, especially
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: because it's like a blown coverage. Like it wasn't like
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: he came in and threaded the needle and was like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: throw a dime and you're like, well, I just gotta
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: tip my hat because he's really good. It was like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, and to be fair, I mean, maybe those
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: places were there to be Mabel Mac was in and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he just didn't make him. I don't I have I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: won't eliminate that as a possibility. But still, but these
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: are the facts. Okay, this is the facts. So like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Mac Mac's first possession, he takes over at the twenty two,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the seventeen. His second possession, he takes over
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: at the twenty one. His third possession, he takes over
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: at the twenty three. Zappy comes in. Where do you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: think they took over midfield forty five? Second possession? What
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: do you think he took over field fifty? Like that's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: like Matt, like Mac Jones and Bai Zappy had nothing
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to do with their average starting field position on those
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: first five drives. Okay, the next drive that Baileys Zappie started,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: where do you start his own? Twenty seven? How'd how'd
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that end? Not with points? And then he went twenty seven,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: eighteen fourteen, No points on any of those drives, Like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: that's not just an insignificant thing. You start near midfield,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna score, right, and you have that one
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: big chunk play and he makes it easy. He had
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: seventy three yards on two throws. Yeah, and one of
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: them was a terrible throw, an incredible catch by Myers.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Now the one to Parker good solid throw, great catch
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: by Parker, by good solid throw by Zappy. Yeah, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Mac is not making those plays. And to Mike's point,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe he's missing some of that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: stuff and maybe the reason for the timing of taking
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Mac out. This kind of was a developing opinion as
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I was driving in today, Like we all talked about
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it at the time Live. How many times do you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: just like take off? Yeah? Yeah, Like do you think
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: maybe Mac? And Matt Patricia and Joe jg Were saying, Matt,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I mean Bill s Bill, Matt and Matt Patricia was saying,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Mac, where are you going? Just stay in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the pocket. There's plays to be made. Run the play,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: execute your read, you know, go through your progressions. Don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: look to escape before you need to. And then it's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: like three drives and the same thing happened, and the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: pick was the same thing. He leaves the pocket and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: goes over and makes the play, and they're like, you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: know what, he's not trusting the process. We got to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: get him out. Evan was funny because Evan was mad
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: before the game. You know, the fog is I'm really
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: worried about the all twenty two. I'm not sure, but
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this is a good week for his analysis, Like was
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: mac missing plays? Like what was going on in the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: route progress, you know, in the route trees while he's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: in the pocket. See even if they were, even if
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they he wasn't aarily missing receivers. I don't think they
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: want him running around like like he wasn't under siege
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: last night. I don't think that the pressure was such
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that did you just had to get out Like against Baltimore,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he was under siege and he had to get out
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of the pocket and make plays with his feet, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I thought he did that effectively. I don't think he
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: had to do that last No. I think that was
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: more of like the hero Ball moment coming in showing
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: showing people like my angle works, it works, just fun.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I think it was I'm out of here, like I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't think he trusted it, and like the first one
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was like it was after that penalty right on. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: think Trent Brown got a penalty and that was third
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and eleven and he scrambled up the middle for six
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: hut and it was like third and eleven, like unless
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the red sea just parted and he has no one
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: near him, like you're not getting third and eleven right, yeah, yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and it was quick. I thought it was a quick
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: decision to get out of the pocket. You mentioned like
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he wanted to as the ankle. We were joking around
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: last night, like in the huddle, He's like, guys, here's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the play, but I'm going to test the ankle on
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: this plas test the ankle on too. Yeah. I mean,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: ankle looked looked good. No one looked good. Like his
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: mobility looked fine. You know, he was other than the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: one where he was under pressure and threw off his
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: back foot for the interception, he was planting. He was,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you know, distributing the weight fine. Didn't look like he
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was favoring one foot. I thought that was the only
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: positive that came out as he hotel. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: What also didn't look at the running game. Yeah, it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: didn't look at which was weird. I expected that to be.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: The Bears came to play, they did, and they were
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: just beating us in the trenches both sides. And you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: when you realize that, you gotta adjust, you know, And
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think you know, when Zappi came in, he was
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: using a lot of like swing passes and check downs
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to Stevenson and they were kind of working, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that's the other good one word. No, No No, he had
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: more than one. He had a lot of little check
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: downs to Stevens and none of them were positive. There
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was one on the third down that confirmed many How
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: many yards catching did Stevenson have? He had a lot
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of catches. He had eight catches, Yeah, and I think
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that was there was only one of them that was
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a positive, like a really good play at a twenty
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: yard play, and it was the first third down that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: he came in. Well, I think the rest of them
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: were all plays down down nineteen points that they're throwing
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: underneath good luck. I think as we're scratching for positives,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I think one of them is like Stevenson kind of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: emerging as a better pass as a decent pass catcher.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You know. I think he's far and away the better
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of the two. Yeah, I think that. And I'm hoping that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you know, the scrubbing of the Instagram changing their profile picture,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping it was just like you know, one of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: those like emotional things. Yeah, and then he because he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: slowly adding puctures back from last night, everything was gone
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: profile picture. Maybe it was just changing. But then also
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: archiving thirty Patriots photos. That's weird. But but add this
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to Mary, add this to the little bucket of let's
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: watch the locker room. Let's yeah, this is part of it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And that was you might need to go in and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: talk to the fellas. I might come in on Friday,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and just but I think I would. I would rather
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: do it like and Irish could buy and not delete anything.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And just like if I was receiving trade interests or
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'd rather not know. Well, it's called
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: passive aggressive. It's passive aggressive. They use social media that way.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: The other thing did you see my Instagram? Yeah? No,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: why what's on it? You know? The other thing the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: other thing players will do in this age is, you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you know on social media is they won't scrub, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: they'll come up with like some weird where like you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: just ain't fair. And then everyone's like, hey, you want
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to elaborate. What does that happen with Cam Newton? When
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: we were at the Eagles training camp, we were there,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: someone said, like, you posted such and such on your
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Instagram story? What did that mean? He's like, uh, nothing
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: related to the Patriots. Like it was just crazy. So
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but like they'll do that though, Yeah, you know, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: what are you shaking your hands here? Just tell us
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: who the starter is? What does it mean? Or you
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: know Patrick Chung was big on than that. You know. Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people say things and you just can't
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: trust them. Okay, who were you talking about? Yeah? What
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: are you talking to? The best thing you can do
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: there is just ignore it, Yeah, because that's exactly what
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're craving. Oh yeah, they want everybody to be like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: what's the matter? What's the matter? Asked me about why
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I have this bad look on my face? You right,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't. I will say, you know, it probably
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: was just I'm hoping just you know, three carries. I'm
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: hoping that that it was just you know, it's kind
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of mature, but well, I mean he sees the writing
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on the wall too. He's going to be here another
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: half a season. Yeah, and so I'm hoping you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a few pictures were added back. Maybe it's just you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you've had a good night's sleep, you woke up and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you're like, all right, so keep keep on which pictures
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like any anything in particular? Is there a pattern here
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: that the Steeler's picture was added back? You know that's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a good Nagie Harris isn't doing that well, like he's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: approven that trade destination. Oh my gosh, that's that's reading. Really,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about that dealers? He's readers would
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: want to trade for. They're not gonna trade Damien Harris.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Why not and leave themselves at one running back for
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year. How you got pier strong
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you got to keep and maybe yourself with one running
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: back for the rest of the year. Like those guys
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: aren't ready. Maybe we're fire sale. Maybe we're like, you
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: know what, we lost one game, Like do I have
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: to be the one that raised the troops? They lost
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: one game. I don't know if Damien Harris isn't going anywhere. Yeah, okay,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna trade Damian win could be traded because
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: they just won him out, But they're not gonna trade
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Damien Happy. No, you can't. I don't know. He'll leaders
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of the year. More
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: than it was an emotional archive, I don't I would not.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they traded. Why are you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: acquiring people? It's one of the few teams in the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: worst spot than the Patriots. Yeah, I don't know. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I like Pittsburgh. Oh he might like them,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: but like, seriously, if you're Pittsburgh, why would you trade
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for somebody? You would trade somebody to somebody from draft
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: picks because you're rebuilding right. Yeah, now, Isaiah Win or
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, that's different. But damon Harris, non Hittsburgh will
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: trade for Isaiah Win. They need offensive line help. Okay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Now if Kendrick Bourne scrubbed his page, then I'd be like, hmm,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that's different. That's different. Yeah, that's a different one. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: got two little sleep tip. We just put a last week.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: We posted a do year life episode with Kendrick Bourne.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I figured we get people saying, oh, Patriots, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, Kendrick Bourne's out of the doghouse. Maybe
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: you know people reading into that you know, didn't happen
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: now did work? So he's a guy that out of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: all these guys that we're talking about in terms of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: never November first, by the way, it's the trade deadline,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: so it's coming quickly today. I think Kendrick Bourne is
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a candidate. So yeah, toe injury is that a sticking
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: point though? If he's got a little bit of an
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: turf toe, yeah, but I mean, whoever would acquire him,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you know it's turf toe. You know he's out for
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a week or two or whatever, and you know you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: go from there. Now if it's more serious, because turf
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: toe can be there's definitely varying degrees of that. You
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: saw the guy from Chicago, the offensive lineman that left
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the game last night. They carted him off with yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: um and he I mean they didn't say turf toe,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: but they said a toe injury. So when they announced that,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: there's only one kind, right, So it's not it's it's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's not as Jermaine Wiggins would say, it's not not Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it would be a deal breaker
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: for someone that's looking for a wide receiver down the stretch,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: ye Green Bay. I just wonder about like what kind
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of like what what is going to be the motivation
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: for making trades. Is it going to be to acquire picks?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Is it going to be is it to win now
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: or is it for the What would your motivation be?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: My mind right now would probably be to acquire picks too,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and and and shed you know, any positions of depth
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that you potentially have and try to max your your
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: draft capital. But I also wonder about the the locker
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: room element of you know, and I don't want to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: overplay what Kendrick Bourne potentially means or doesn't mean to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the locker room, but you know, just the ramifications of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: trading somebody like Isaiah Wynn within the locker room versus
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the ramifications for trading somebody like I don't think they're
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: gonna trade Damien Harris, but but Damien Harris, who you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: or even Kendrick Bourne to an extent that I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: has some leadership juice within the locker room or guys
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you know kind of look to them a little bit
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: for energy or barking. Yeah, I mean, I think I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: would have do with Mike. I I'm not looking to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: have the Fred Curst fire sale, but if I had
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: someone you know, calling me do that you can acquiring
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: about about guys um, I would definitely be looking to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: acquire picks, not necessarily like acquired talent. I have to
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: have Evan pay very close attention to the mood practice. Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Another one could be Nelson. That's another one that I'm like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: didn't play much last night. Kind of the fourth receiver
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Yeah, he's a guy that I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: don't think would have much. It's like I think someone
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: would would take Kendrick Bourne and say, you know, we've
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: seen him be productive, he's on a reasonable contract. Will
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: we'll take home. I could do some different stuff, you know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Aglord makes a lot of money right and is doing now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman on the broadcast last night said that Taekwon
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Thornton is the second best receiver on the team right now.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Who was the first who? He didn't say, Uh, he
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: said Thornton is the I mean Myers, Myers has to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: be the best. I guess that catchy, but he said
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: that Thornton is the second best. Like that really caught
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: my ears. I think I'm like, I think it's telling. Yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he's he's a long way away. Still. Yeah, I didn't
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: see really much he had. I mean he has ability.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: You can see it, like he has ability to get open.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: And I thought that early one that Mac missed him.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I thought he was open. I thought he had a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: step just when the Bears cornerback did the Ellis Hobbs.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I got beat by three yards, but the past was
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: off target. You did the that was that's otherwise known
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: as the Ellis Hobbs. I think Thornton can play, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I mean we haven't really seen much yet. All right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: eight five five past five hundred is the ace ticket
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: hut line web radio at Patriots dot Com is the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: email address. Let's turn to our listeners. We'll start with
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Jim and new Haven. What's up Jim? Hey, Hey Fred?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: How you doing in the gang? Love the show? Thanks,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: thank you. I just got a little quarterback controversy point
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and something about the defense and when Bailey Zappy was playing.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: It was after the Cleveland game that you know, I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to call a weakness or
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: not potential weakness. In the locker room celebration, he was
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: talking to Craft and they looked about the same height,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and I was worried about his height and like maybe
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: tip balls and things like that than Robert Kraft. But yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: height is an issue. It's an issue with both guys though, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I mean when you're that when you're that short, you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: need to be carefully. You need to look for your
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: passing lanes. Do you need to You know it's subtle,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but you need to move your feet left or right,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, just enough to get that lane. Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And to Jim's point, there were a number of passes
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: bad down last yes, yeah, just up. We had a
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: little yesterday. Yeah. I also got a point about the defense.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: You know, to me, the last four or five years
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: kind of the same. We can't handle a running quarterback.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: You know, they rushed when they rushed, the rushed passed
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: a quarterback behind them and you're out of position. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to me, bad tackle. And they would say they tackle
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: very well, and I don't really see the great tackles.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: To me, bad tack one. And um, they did not
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: tackle well last night. I think they've tackled well this
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: season though. Yeah. The other the other thing I noticed
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: that from last night was in the run game, initial
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: hit like one or two yards, but then the push
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and one or two yard game turns into four. Montgomery
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: had a lot of yards after contact. Yeah. Yeah. You know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: even Matt Judan, who we probably think is the best,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you know, defensive player making plays and facts, but he
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: gets the sacks, but we still go for first down.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And one of the facts I think on one play
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: that he got then he doesn't set the edge and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: fields runs right by him for the first down. So
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: in the gates what he just did, right, it seems
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: like it's not timely what they're doing. You know. Yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: they struggled, but I would say that they haven't really
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: struggled in the recent past with teams like last night,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like offenses that are like one dimensional and uh really
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: not overly productive. Those are the kinds that they usually
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: shut down and we and we saw when fields passed,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: he missed a lot. He's inaccurate, but wide open and sewing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: The guy's wide open all nights. Yeah, so that's what
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that'sn't made it worse for the defense last day because
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: it looked like the plan from non football coach was
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: stay in front of him, don't let them, don't let them,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you know, run through you run sideways. And then it
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: seems like that he could past all but they led
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: him run. That was a that was the thing. He
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: really wasn't a good pastor at all. So we had
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the edge there and we gave it up. Yeah, they
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: need a better plan. Thanks, Jim, appreciate the call. We'll
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: go to Todd in North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, guys,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I think tomorrow was spot on. They didn't play within themselves,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that she said before
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a game, that they had to, you know, play their
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: style of game, and they just really didn't. They got outcoached,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they got outplayed. It just didn't look good. And the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: other thing I remember is last week the lady called
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: in from Chicago and she was worried, and you guys
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: kind of poopooed her, and she said, you know, these
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: got I watched their practice fields. Has got something, he's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: got some movement. He's a big guy. They got to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: be prepared for him. And you guys didn't really take
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: her seriously. Yeah, I didn't know. I thought the Patriots
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: were good. I won't make that mistake going forward. Yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I get it. I do get it, because I mean,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I pooh pooed it. I thought the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Patriots would roll in this game. I'll take my medicine.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was wrong, and I agreed with so I guess
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I eat some crow too. But you know, it's coaching.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I think I just think we got out coached. It
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: really felt like we were just grasping at straws. Yeah it,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I mean these are one of you know, usually when
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Bill says, oh, you know, we got out coached. It's like, okay,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you know, team team loss, but this is one of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the games where I really do think, you know, we
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: lost the coaching battle. Yeah, I agree, And I feel like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: oh week I kind of was just like, is justin fields,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like you know, hitting a wall here? Or are they
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: just not using him right? And I think that Monday
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: night game last night, I think they used him appropriately.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't really seen that out of him.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: That was probably arguably his best game as a pro. Yeah. Um,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm just really sad and unfortunate that he had
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: against us. Yeah right, Yeah, like any other game, but
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that one right, save that for the vikings. Um. Eldred's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, Aldred? Oh, I don't even
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: hear the truck, Aldred, you're there, Aldred? Aldred talks to us.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: All right, please we'll go to the We got a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: lot of emails, a lot of emails, Antoine writes in
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: from Montreal. You guys touch quickly on the multiple quarterback point,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna off my head, but I can't remember
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: them playing well against one. This mobile quarterbacks well against
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: one since the league has shifted that way. Unless the weather,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: level of the field. I feel like it comes back
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: to the fact that they would rather have sound and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: discipline players in the field instead of the best athletes.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I would think that to stop an athlete at quarterback,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you need athletes to catch him and bring him down
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: because when they play sound and everything is covered, the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: QB takes off for twenty yards, so we have eleven
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: guys trying to catch him. Maybe it comes back to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the epic Fred and Paul argument about playing the young, faster,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: more athletic players. So what they make, So what they
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: make some mistakes and blow a cover for a sixty
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: yard touched down. I'd like to see them stop a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: drive on third down and not have a fifteen play
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: eight r drive. Thanks for the therapy, Keep up the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: great work. Yeah, And to his point, like we talked
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: about the linebackers earlier, you know, with ray Kua, McMillan
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and mac wilson. I looked up they played twelve plays
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and eleven plays nothing, So they were among the least
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: utilized defensive players they had last night, you know, they
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: had more Jabril peppers. I think when Dugger went out, um,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you know, he played a reasonable amount, but I don't.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I don't really know why they It just seems like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Bill can't help himself. He's gonna he's gonna gravitate toward
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to buy over like oocha or you know mack Wilson
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: or something like that too. And I'm not telling yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm not telling you that mack Wilson's the answer.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's not. Like he's a cast up. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like I thought there were opportunities in the draft to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: get some athletes and maybe mold them for the future.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And smaller but sideline linebacker. Yeah yeah, But at the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: same time, like I would just say, like they should
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: be better than this. If Kyle Dugger is the player
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people say he is, and and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips, I think he's a really good football player too.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are two good in the box safety
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: types that they have to be better than this, like
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: they just like Kyle Dugger, he got hurt again, Like
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it stinks that somehow he gets hurt against
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the mobile quarterbacks and then all of a sudden, it's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: like we don't have our only guy that can stop people.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: But he missed a nice tackle in the backfield. Oh yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: he struggled. Yeah, maybe that was and maybe he was
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: hurt before that. Assistency, you know, consistency, it's Wan writes
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: in from Stratford. Three quick points. One This one is
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: for Paul. We kept more injury free. Um two we
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: should have stuck with Mac for at least the first half.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: And three. Silver pants are cursed and I'm glad Fred
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: called it last night. The silver they're like gray and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: they don't match the helmet, So I am not on
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: board and needs silver pants. Like what like I was thinking, like,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: you know, they have like a shiny silver helmet. What
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: if the pants were shiny silver? That would be kind
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: of like they lions shiny silver pants. But I mean like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: like you know how like like chrome some people wear
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the bubble jackets and they're like shiny, you know what
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like the pants are like that, So you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: mean like, uh, like Notre Dame's helmet. It's like yeah, chrome, yeah, chrome, yeah,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: chrome pants. Yeah, chrome pants. He has to seem like
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he was chrome. But it seemed like Judean was slow
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to get up a few times during the game. Anyone
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: else see this And do you think you'll show up
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: on the injury report. Nah, nah, nah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Refresh my memory was the on it
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  Speaker 1: last week? I don't think so. Okay, Um, I think
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  Speaker 1: I threw. Did you think it was weird last week
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: that the Bears had no one? Yes? I actually meant
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to talk about that pregame show. I've never seen that. Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: that's you know, like we always talk about things that
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I see it, like in the playoffs sometimes yes, you know, yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: but no injuries to report? Nothing? Yeah, yeah, I thought
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that was weird. Yep, damon in the UK with the
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  Speaker 1: crowd chanting zappie? Did Bill listen to the polls of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the school teachers and fourth graders last night? Just kidding?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: If he listened to my little pole, he would have
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: stuck with Mac. What annoys me most is the position
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Jones was put in. He had six throws. Even Tom
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Brady has thrown a pick in his first six passes
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: before Rogers missed a lot early in Week four. It's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a bad throw, but I get him being a little
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: nervous under pressure from the rushers, especially if he knew
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: he was coming out after that drive. He didn't know
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: he was coming out after that drive, and with the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: crowd chanting the backup's name. Can you blame him at
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a young stage trying to force some magic. I agree
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: with that element. It's just that, like Bill told Mac, ostensibly,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that's the way Bill has explained it. That the plan
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: was that both of those guys were going to play.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with when or you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like after a pick or anything like that. But I
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: agree with the emailer there, like, I don't think that's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: setting your quarterback up for a position to succeed. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think that you're asking for trouble by saying you're coming
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: out at some point. Yeah, it's kind of like, you
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: know when everybody said, why wouldn't he just say that
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Mac is the quarterback? And I brought up the fact
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that maybe he's trying to send a message to Zappi.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Max's not ready to play. So I'm not going to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: tell you publicly that when Mac is ready to play,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: he will unquestionably be the starter, because what does Zappi do.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe he says, I'm really doing well here, but I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: have to do better because I have no chance to
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: be the starter. Once Mac comes back, I have to
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: do something to impress him and show him that I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: need to be the starter, and instead of just handing
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the ball off and you know, using play action and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: making throws, I'm going to start trying to play outside
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: myself and do things that I'm not capable of doing
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: because I had to show him I could do it all,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I could be everything. Right. Well, I think that made
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: some sense, But it works the other way too with Mac.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Like you told them specifically, you're coming out, So I'm
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: not going to just throw that ball away on third down.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to jam it in at the triple
• 50:11
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  Speaker 1: Henny sacked inside the twenty shot but close to the
• 55:55
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• 55:58
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• 56:06
  Speaker 1: playing catch in front of the Patriot bench. Jones with
• 56:10
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• 56:14
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• 56:18
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• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the Patriot's third series. There you go, he's got some life.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Offensive lineman trying to calm the crowddown. We can't hear
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Harris in the backfield with the place baked Man Zappi
• 56:42
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• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Patriots look at his place. Fields takes the shotguns stamp
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: against the four man rush. He thrown the root ball
• 56:59
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• 57:03
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• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Heat dropped. He's lucking it up. He's thurning the long
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• 57:16
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• 57:30
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• 57:43
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• 57:49
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• 57:52
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• 58:00
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• 58:03
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• 58:07
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• 58:09
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• 58:25
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• 58:58
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  Speaker 1: Zappy drops to the knee. The Chicago Bears have officially
• 59:46
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• 59:53
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  Speaker 1: some of the other losses this week this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, penalties, turnovers, dumb plays. Yeah, there were so bad,
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  Speaker 1: but they got physically. Oh yeah, this wasn't This wasn't
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  Speaker 1: This was like, oh, they completely outplayed us. They wanted
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: been not good, not good line drive, punts, no hang time.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: They had great feel position. Yeah. I saw Mike Rees
• 1:02:07
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  Speaker 1: seems like he's trying to give them an out for
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the poor performance to say, Oh, I think it did.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe Bill wasn't biting on that one either. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: another thing to watch. I mean, it just it feels
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  Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Jones had several opportunities for you know,
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  Speaker 1: to return in the kickoff game and not much. There
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of good blocking up front. Think he
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: got past the twenty five once? Yeahn't. They're you know,
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  Speaker 1: really missing Cody Davis in a time like this. Bill
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• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: super exciting with Hey, maybe z that they can step
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it up, But in the end, it's just like, I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: don't know what I'm more frustrated about massive the defense. Um,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I was going to actually ask about what Justin justin
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the last call I was asking about, but do a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: variation on it. So assuming the House of Cards is
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: basically all falling apart and the season is kind of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: slipping away. And that was the inflection point for that
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: last way last night, Like if they're not going to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: be a playoff team, what is it that you're looking
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: for from from them the rest of the season, Like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: what kind of signs of growth would you be looking for? Stabilization?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Mike is Mac the guy was my anti. That's the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: big one, because are you looking for a quarterback? Do
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: you have the quarterback? I mean the other stuff you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: can put little pieces in, but I think that's the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: big question you got to find out. And I would
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: start it this week because we've been talking about make
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: him the starter. Let him work through whatever he's got
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: to work through until you either feel like, all right,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: he's starting to work through it and he's showing signs
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: of progress and we feel good about his trajectory now,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: or he continues to play like he's been playing. He's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a turnover machine. The offense can't string two first downs
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: together with him playing, and then you know, yeah, he's
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: not He's not the guy. You know we were around
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and one when Bill famously said Tom
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Brady's our start, Our quarterback for the foreseeable future. That
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: put an end to the whole you know, questioning, and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I think it helped Brady and it helped his teammates. Okay,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: this is the guy that's gonna be you know, I'm
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. This is the guy behind me. I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: know how he plays. He's different than Drew bledsoe you know,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and I you know. So I think Bill needs to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: do that this week. And he doesn't have to come
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: out and proclaim it to us, but he needs to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: do it with the team in practice. Matt Jones is good,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: but I think but I think it would mean be
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: more impactful if he did it, yeah, publicly, because I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: think that was the key in two thousand and one,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: right right, there were nobody nobody else was asking questions
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: about it. It ended, Yes, yeah, it ended. There was
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: like the that the fallout after that press carvage. Everybody
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: went in the locker room. We all talked to Drew.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Drew took the high road, even though he was he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: gave a lot of next questions. He was pissed, but
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: you know, to meet question, you know, I understood her.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I knew how emotionally was so I let it slide
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: for eight or nine years. This was his team, you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: so I get it. But Bill put an end to it, right,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: and it was not it was not an issue. Now
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I think that there's you know, I think there's a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: big difference in that one guy was playing so much
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: far and away better than the other. Yeah, in in
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: this case, you watched last night, so you know, so
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder, like you know, with other head coaches, like now,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: this is the third time in Bill's career where he's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: had like a quarterback decision to make, you know, going
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: back to Bernie Kozar, you know, yeah, what I mean,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: what do you do if you get to the end
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: of this year and you just you don't really believe
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I'm saying you're the coaching staff,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: you just don't believe Max the guy, Like, you know, like,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: how do you approach it? You got to I mean,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: he's under contract. I mean you could try to trade him.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You've got Bailey Zappy who you know, maybe you could
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: trade Mac and just you know, kind of go with
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Zappy or you know, do you keep both of them,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: kind of compete and try to bring somebody else in
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: as well. Like I don't it's just a hard place
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: to be. What we talk about when you're in purgatory
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's like you're damned if you do
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: and you're damned if you don't. Yeah, you know, the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: only thing that saves it is you know, you get
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that first pick and then you then you can determine
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: your fate. But you know, right, otherwise you're searching every year.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But oh, sorry, ahead. This makes me think about Paul's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: statement that he's made about, you know, not having like
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: the guys these stars around the quarterback. Do you think
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: that it could help to get Mac Jones or Bailey Zappy,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: like that wide receiver one like that guy like a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: DeVante Adams obviously hurt obviously not him, but help a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: lot that would help, can't hurt. But I wonder if
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: like you go into next season get let's say, let's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: say that it doesn't happen the way Mike is saying, like,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you don't find out about Mac this year, and it
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like is shaping You're stuck in the middle.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: You mean, well, or like Mac plays but he's okay. Um,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the high ankle sprain is not gone, by
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the way, Like there's a chance that he misses more
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: time due to that ankle um because without having the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: complete time to rest, like, it's not going to just
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: go away. So what if you get caught not you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't play great, Zappy plays a little bit.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be an open co petition going into camp
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: next year, Mac, I could absolutely see's like, you know,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I trade me, I'm out of here, Like I don't
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: want to, like I don't need this. Yeah, Like I
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: think there's a there's there's a chance for like a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: really tumultuous offseason if it's not what Mike says, like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: play Mac and find out if Max the guy. But
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: even that stinks, you know, like open competition and start
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: it's like it totally stinks. I'm saying that you avoid
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: that by just making the decision now and letting Mac play. Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that he Max said, you know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I've been in this position before, Like I'm just gonna
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: go out there, I'm gonna practice, I'm gonna get back
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: into routine, and I'm like, you've been in this position before.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, is he comparing it to like, you know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: when he was behind Jalen Hurts that's what that's what
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: he said. But he was never like he was never
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: in play, right, He was never the starter, and then
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: he got hurt and then he had to win his
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: job back. That never happened. But even like when he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: was when he was like the fifth quarterback in the room,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really in play. He beat out Bryce Young,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: yeah barely. Yeah his last year, Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: like he didn't have he wasn't like in competition with
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in TUA. But in his answer he went
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: back to Pop Warner and little Jimmy Sullivan. I remember
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: there was a quarterback he did say, Pop beat out
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Sullivan is silly. That was a really awkward answer.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I agree, he said, though that's Fret's not lying about that. No,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: it's not. It's just it's just he answered that way
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: in the context of a question about leadership of the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: team right now, it seemed like he was kind of
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: mentally turtling a little bit. It was a very strange response.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I thought, it's got to be tough up there, because
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: you know that every word you say, he's going to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: be it's going to come back to you afterwards. He's
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: getting dissected, but not only the the media, your own
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: your but also your own coaches are going to go
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: through and have their all their no what are you saying?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: You know, Uh, it's it's a tough position. I kind
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: of feel bad for him. I do feel bad from him,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, I know that, Like the
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: first question on my mind is like, like if for
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, if you're not gonna make
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's all about Mac, But the entire season
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: hasn't been all about Mac. Is he going to be?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Is the franchise quarterback? I just wonder if there are
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: other things. There's so many holes to plug. I don't know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: he's wondering other things to be on the lookout for it,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: keep open, interest alive and thanks for the car listen.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: In terms of the rest of the team, I think
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: they've got the makings of, you know, some players. I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: think there's some good play, you know, like Barmore's got
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: to get healthy obviously, but you know, I think Jonathan,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: there were some young guys that are making just some
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: young guys, and I think you can build. I think
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you need an infusion of some talent though, and I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: think next year. You gotta you gotta be aggressive, you know,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: and and spend a little bit of money draft well again,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and I will you have to have you
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: can't just have one good draft. You have to have
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: a series of good drafts to get back up there.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: And I would also say, like, I think they have
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: some young guys making contributions, but there were a lot
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: of openings for young guys to step into. That doesn't
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean they're great just because they're playing. Like I
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: hear a lot of people are, Buddy Fitzie, I've heard
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Here's you know, all ten
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: draft picks played in the game. I mean, real happy
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: for you, Like, you know, it looks like it looks
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: like Marcus Jones is a dynamic return guy. Made a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: really nice play on defense last night, but he's had
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: a very minimal role on defense. Jack Jones looks like
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: he's a ball hawking kind of defensive back. It's gonna
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: give up some plays, but he's gonna make some plays. Okay,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: you got a backup quarterback who played because you don't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: want her to play, Like, I'm not really sure that's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: a feather in anyone's cap. You know, you have a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: guard who's playing out of complete necessity. He's been okay,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: he's not a bust, he's been okay. Cole Strange like yeah,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: but like, don't confuse it with all these guys are playing,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: so they're all, what a what a bang up draft?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's right. Well, and like the thing for me
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: is none of it's really mattered. Like you look at
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: their production in twenty nineteen with the tight ends, they go, well,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: spend all this money on tight ends. There still getting
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the same production on the tight ends. And all these
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: old linebackers last year, all these complaints about the defense
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: can't stop anybody getting new guys. They still can't stop anybody.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: So like nothing's changing, and the personnel has evolved a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: little bit, certainly a quarterback, it's changed. It's changed within
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: this season. That's like what's frustrating to me is that
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: we're seeing the same movie over and that's another one
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: over again. Think back to the off season of twenty
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: twenty one, they had the free agency splurge like two
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: hundred and whatever million, and there were a lot of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: analytical pieces telling you how many teams have done this
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: in the past, And I think Mike Reis had a
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: great breakdown that it almost always works in year one
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: and there's almost always a drop off in year two,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and everybody laughed. Those teams don't coached by Bill Belichick. Okay, well,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: which ones of those free agent acquisitions have been better
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: in year two? Well? So far, Jude On, I think
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's been the same. But I'll even give you.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: I'll give you that he's been better. I think he's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: been the same. I mean after the last night's game,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not really prepared to say anybody right like Jalen
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Mills looks to me to be far worse than he
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: was last year. I think he looked disinterested at times
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: last night. He wanted no part of tackling anybody. I'm
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: hoping by the end of the season will say John
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: hu Smith. The tight ends have been very quiet. Agalore
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: had a little splash early, He's now a non factor.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, I mean, we forget about in Devon. Gatcha
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: is a part of a defensive line that can't stop
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: the run. So I know he's the best defensive tackle
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: in football according to his coach, but he but he
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: can't stop the run. Parker might end up with better numbers.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Parker's not a free agent splash from two years ago.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Parker they traded for this year. Okay, oh, okay, yeah,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: but I think, like all everything you're laying out, Paul,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: this is like it's just making me feel like, you know,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Fred said, Oh, we're gonna have some money to spend.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, right, I'd rather be spending that money
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: on guys who are on the team that are good
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that you want to retain. It's like, rather than another
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: one of those free agent spending speeds, which sounds great
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: at the time, than cap space club. You mean it
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: like if you're going to take some of that cap
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: space and and have a guy like let's just say,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: like the one, the one draft pick that I'm really
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: really like, sort of intrigued with this is Thornton, Okay,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: because I think he has a skill set to be dynamic.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is, but I'm willing to
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: take some time here to find out. Let's say he
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: was like finishing year three and he was that guy.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: He's a guy that you're talking about up there with
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson and those guys. No, now I have
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: the cap space. Let's splurge on keeping this guy right
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and a deal that because this guy, this guy's a
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: different maker that I already have, I don't have to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: worry about him fitting into my locker room, my system.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I know he can, you know what I mean. That's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the kind of thing that I like the cap space for.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't have to let talented players go because
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: you know, that's what the dump teams do, Mike, And
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: then I think it's a question of do they have
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the talent and the guys that they want to retain
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: that I have shown up, you know, And that's like
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: just the thought of another one of these free Asian
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: splurts is where all of a sudden you're getting all
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: these new guys and like, you know, the thing of
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: like retaining Jacobe Myers, where it's like, hey, here's a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: guy to hold up as an example that came in
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: as an undrafted rookie who has performed and delivered no
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: matter who he's been playing with. He's you know, they
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: should be able to resign like and and will they
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know, We don't don't know.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: But he's one of the few guys that you should
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: that you can say we developed him ourself. He's been productive.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: He's not in one a elite talented player that's going
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: to break the bank. So and I know we're getting
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves the off season. But John and Maine writes,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: and this reminds me of the quarterback controversy between Hugh
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Millen and Scott Zola. They both were terrible, but Zola
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: won a few games, so everyone was clamoring for him,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: but neither one of them were very good. Time to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: draft to Drew BLEDSOE do you think Bailey's Appy's building
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: a whole post football career here in New England by
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: his performance. That's a good job if you can get it.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: It's a great call right there. He's right. That happened. Yeah,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Zoe won a couple of games and everybody went crazy.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's the z I told you. It's it's
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: part of the Name's got personality too. There's something you know,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: he's likable. Chris with a great point, Paul, Chris, t
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: I a n what's up? Christian? That's a good point.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: You break up there, Paul, Well, and I think I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: could be more depressed. But after being on hold, what
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: depression I was after last name. We're working through it
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: together here, um, and I just think they weren't ready
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: from Jump Street when they came out, they just right
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: away it was ten to nothing, and I was like, okay,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Chicago came to play, Um, are we going to show up?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of like the twenty
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: twenty home game against the forty nine ers here where Yeah,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: just from Jump Street that got smacked on the malt
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: and that was it, and I similar game. I really
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: don't have like numbers as far as you know, the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: sort of the instances and how like these type of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: games seem to be occurring more often to me for
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: some reason. Yeah, I think I saw something Mike and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I were talking about Christian. I think they've lost something
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: like five of the last seven home games or something
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: like that. There's a large percentage, and they've all been
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: by double digits, yeah, or the amount of or they
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: like Max lost like six or something of his last
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: eight and they've all been by double digits or something
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: like that. I mean, not good. Whatever it is. Yeah,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: the trend is not a good one. Yeah. Yeah. The
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: aura of Gillette Stadium is gone. Yeah it is. And
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I Paul brought up a great point last week about
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: what does it say about your roster when you got
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: a sign Cannon and Collins. I mean, what does that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: say about your team building? It just gets back to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: what you guys talked about in the draft and all
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, it's just really really frustrating as a
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: fan when you look at it the amounts of missus
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and then you got to have guys coming here to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: to sort of you know, to fill in the gaps,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: and then you still get smoked. Um. You know, it's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: just it's crazy. But I do have a question for
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: the whole group. Has Bill lost team yet? No? No, okay,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: you think, but but but we talked about like what
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: would it take for like Bill to lose his job,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: And I think we've said in the past, like it
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: would he would have to totally lose the team, you know. Yeah,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: So keep an eye, keep an eye on the little things,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, to me, one of the little things
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: is a wide receiver saying it that's yeah, you know,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: that's not right. What happened last night. Yeah, it's the
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: second time. That's a sign to me that things aren't
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: exactly Yeah, great, you put that in the bucket along
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: with the instagrams. That's why I'm not willing to say
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: they haven't lost. I don't. I'm not telling you that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: he's lost the team because I don't know. I don't
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't been in the locker room. Like, I couldn't
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: even tell you what the mindset. Now, if Fred asked
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: me the mood, I'd have to say, chiefs Rid, I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: really don't know. I don't know what I mean. They
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: like just facts are facts. They just got thoroughly outplayed
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: by a team on national television that has had won
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: two games going into it that you know, by all accounts,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: they should have smoked. I mean, it's it's uncharted territory.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were like nine and a half point
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: favorites at some point the week and they they lost
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: by Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up Eldred? Hey? So listen, ladies,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: are you are y'all doing good? Well? You know what?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: For twenty years, like I said, I enjoyed the high
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: and little loads, But this time I'm not enjoying the loads.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I'm getting my butt kicked every date, every day. Now
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I know how to feel it be down below the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: we below the pack. We ain't in the pack, we
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: below the pack. Yeah, you know, but my question is this,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: I know I don't think that was fair how he
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: did Mac And like I told you a couple of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, if we're in the top five or ten,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I still draft a quarterback. I still would draft one
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: if you Yeah, if you're in the top five, absolutely
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I would. But because that means you lost a lot
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: of games, even if you're in the ten, because I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: don't know if you have a chance to get one
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, but I mean I think it's hard.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: But we know Bill won't do that. Bill a trade out,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: you know, that right to get more picks. We noticed, right,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I boy don't like last time he had an opportunity
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: to pick a quarterback in the first round, he didn't
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: trade it. I would he took the quarterback, yeah, but
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: he could have traded up the one that I wanted.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Like I said, everybody said he he was a bus
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: but that's justin field. I see, say bad with a
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: bad team. Now, Like I said, we've been been with
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Daniels last year and this year might be a little
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: bit better. They might have been, but like, yeah, I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: mean it's hard to just automatically assume that. Yeah, and
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: I like Justin Fields, but he hasn't looked good as
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: a pro. Yeah. But but one more question, act y'all
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: because I gotta run real quick. Okay, we're talking about
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: the off season. I know you're talking a little bit
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: of all season and free agency, right a little bit? Okay,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: how many free agency people you think will come and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: you don't have a two office coordinator? Yeah, I don't
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: think that that's an issue. If you want a free agent,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I think you just give them botload of money in
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: bam and you get it. Yeaham, That's how they did
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: it two years ago. They didn't have a quarterback, but
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: they overpaid for everybody. Yeah, but most people want to
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: win too. And and I think last I agree with Hardy,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: you packed it in with twelve minutes. No, this least
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: fight to the end. I don't know care if three
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: points or se Yeah. I just disagree that they packed Yeah,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I thought they I think they threw the ball on
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: every play, Like I don't really understand, Like the Bears
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: weren't stupid like some teams aren't. They didn't allow you
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: to throw a bomb. They played everything underneath and they
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: made you check it down in the running back, so
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: you couldn't do Yeah. They number three in the pass
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: and yeah they number three, so they're good at debt. Yeah,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: they are good at debt. Yeah, but I mean, you
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: weren't facing the Lions, all right, different, I gotta go,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Thank thanks, Aldred. Let's go to Jeff in California. Hey, Jeff, guys,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, Hey Jeff guys. Hey, uh So,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to call and pick you guys brain
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: because during the off season, everybody was making the immediate
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: comparison of Mac making the second year jump to Burrow,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: and during the off season I had called it it
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: put it to you guys whether or not it might
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: be more like a Mac to Baker Mayfield second year jump. Well,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: you were right. Seems like we're trending a little more
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: in that direction now, yeah, yeah, I mean, I do
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: wonder how much teams have watched Mac. Now, you know,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: he's now played twenty two games, He's eleven and eleven,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: He's got twenty one picks in twenty two games, And
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much teams have sort of watched him
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: and said, these are the things he did, these are
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: these are the trends, these are these are the things
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: we have to watch for. And there's a there's a
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: book out on him. Now, I do why I worry
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, And I don't know
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: if you guys noticed it last night, because they had
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: it on the broadcast. I kind of flashed it real quick.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: They made a big deal about. I think it was
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: the second TD where Mac came off the sideline and
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: walked up to Bailey Zappy and congratulated him. Yeah, after
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: the second T But I don't know if you guys
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: noticed it because they flashed it on the broadcast. I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: think it was on the first t D And when
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: that happened, they went to Mac pasting on the sideline,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: and I swear to God, the moment that they flashed
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: to him, he dropped an F bomb right after the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: TD and the whole crowd was going nuts. Oh really, yeah,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Marine Colo Matt says he saw the same thing. Lapan
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: and I both saw and commented on it. What do
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: you think he was f bombing the fans or the situation?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: The situation. I think I think it was the situation.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: I think he was. He realized and I text my
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: brother about this right when it happened, I said, and
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Mac never played again because I just I think you
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I think, like, my thought is, I think they lost
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: him last night, and I think what you guys touched
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: on the fans are partly to blame. Yeah, I think
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: they might have lost him. Well, I think they lost him,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't I don't necessarily say they lost him forever.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they did lose him last night. It seems
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: to me though from the post game, and you can't
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: really judge, but from his post game, it seems like
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: he got talked to in a positive way from Bill,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: like because when he came out in the post game,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: he seemed to be on board. You know, I thought
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: he was trying to convince himself. I gotta be honest
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: with you. Maybe, but I wouldn't go with the onboard thought. Okay,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: I thought, I agree with Jeff. I'm not telling you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: they lost him forever, thanks Jeff, because the other guy
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: didn't play well. If the other guy played well last night, yeah,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I think you'd a lost him forever. Oh yeah, but
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: they could still get him back. They're just gonna have
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: to work at it. Alex and Englewood New Jersey. What
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: a rough primetime game. That was a beatdown. I feel
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: like Matt tried to play a bit of hero ball,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: go out and show the fans he's better than Zappy.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Do you all believe that could be a possibility? I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: didn't see that. Also, we can pause that. Can we
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: pause the Zappy fever and just let Mack get back
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: to the number one? I wrote in before the season
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: started and called it a seven and ten season. This
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: game certainly doesn't help me feel we will be any
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: better than that. I expect a rebound with the Jets
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: in them to put up a much better fight than
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: last night. I think they will. Oh yeah, yeah, I
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: mean I think. I mean, the Jets are are feeling
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: it right now. They've won some games, I mean, won
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: an opportunity for them. I mean, of all the things
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: that have changed since you know, twenty eighteen, here like
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: the one thing that hasn't as the Patriots keeps smacking
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: the Jets around, like regardless of it's Cam Newton or
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Mac Jones. So I think I think the
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Jets they got something to prove in this game. I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna come out car. They've had some injury
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: issues this week. I can't believe I'm saying this, but,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: like the Breeze Hall injury to me is an enormous
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: break for that I've never thought i'd worry about, like
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: a big injury for the Jets going into a Patriots game.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: But that's that's a huge break. Yeah, this this email
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: made me laugh. George and Madison New Jersey named this coach.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I attended Wesleyan University. My first coaching position was with
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts. I won six Super Bowl rings as
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: head coach and two as defensive coordinator at two different organizations.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm widely considered to be the best football coach of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: all time and a defensive genius. Yet I've never heard
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: of a quarterback spy? Who am I? That made me
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: like Patricia? That made me like RPI? I just going
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: by everybody. Everything gets blamed on Ma, Patricia, not Bill.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Let's see people calling in. It's a big show. Thank you,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: every big show. But we rarely get to talk the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: day after a game. Decompressed. Chad's in LA. What's up? Chad? Hey? Everyone?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: How you doing today? Good chat? It's been better? Uh?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: A couple questions? Um, the the lady that lived in Chicago.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: That kind of gave everyone, um, a little bit of
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: a warning. Yeah, Todd talked about that earlier on a call.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah do you think that's legit? Okay? And then, um,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: rarely do I blame coaching for you know, what happens
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: in the game. I feel like, you know, one of
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: the greatest of all times would have been able to
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, prepare the team and do all
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: those things. So if there was a breakdown, what is it?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: And then my last question is, you know, of course
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: about Zappy and h Jones, I feel that it was
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: unfair to Zappy. I mean, he had a winning streak.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Rhythm is important, and I just feel like they kind
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: of gave that a way in order to try Jones again.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: And even though he came out strong, I still think
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: you know that that Myers play, that that disrupted handoff
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: might have shook him a little bit. Yeah. Wait, what
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: is the thing about the the coaching, No, the Myers thing, like, well,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: the fumbled handoff is Zappy didn't give it to him,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Like what is it like it was, Oh yeah, the
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: ball never got into Myers hands. Okay, because the announcers
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: made it sound like he hit him on the numbers
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: and Myers dropped it. It was a handoff, got a
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: pass and it never really got in. Like I think
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: both guys are at fall, but I mean, Zappy is
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: the guy responsible on a play like that, And I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: mean I think there's an element of Zappy wasn't quite
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: as bad as everybody thinks he was with this, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: he was terrible in that game last night. He had
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: a little spark when he came in, mostly because Jacoby
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Myers made an incredible catch and then he went. I mean,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: he played the balance of the game and they scored
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: fourteen points. Right, He played three quarters and scored fourteen points,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: just like in Green Bay he played three plus quarters
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and scored like seventeen points. Like, they haven't been overly
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: productive with the exception of the Cleveland game offensively. What
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: would you do if Mack is healthy? Man, Mac would
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: be my quarterback. I wouldn't really have a decision to make.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: But evidently he's not healthy, so I don't know. I
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: don't know what I would do. What if he has
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: two picks in the game, would you would you change
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: it out Atack? No? If Mac is healthy, he'd be
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: my quarterback. But he's saying during the game, I wouldn't
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: change him out if he's healthy, right, I agree, I think, yeah,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I think I'm with Mike, like you have to find out. Yeah,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: pick one. You're gonna just keep going back and forth.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: And then Zappy goes in. He throws two interceptions. All right,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: we're back to Mack like you just you have to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: find out. With Mac, I think. I mean that's fair,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fair. Yeah, he's played better than Mac
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Jones in in twenty two. There's no question. All right,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: thanks Chad M happ in Colorado, says Fred, I realize
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: you couldn't stand my watching McCall a candy bars, but
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: humor me, please as I continue to beat this drum.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: If Belichick selects a draft pick based on positional need
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: or the best player left on the board, no disrespect
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: to Bailey, but why did he choose a quarterback to
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: back up second year Mac with Hoyer on the team
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: and other veterans out there. That is arguably Zappy wasn't
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: the best player left in the fourth He was chosen
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: because of a suspected need. Coach had doubts about Mac,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: and now, whether Belichick intended it or not, there is
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy. Perhaps Zappy makes better decisions, relatively better passes,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: such as swing passes to the backs downfield balls and Mac.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Perhaps Zappy has comportment better suited to starting in the NFL.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: That might be true. The rest of it I don't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: agree with. However, if Belichick really made the interesting choice
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: of Zappy based on presumptive need, then why have Mac
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: as a captain, et cetera, et cetera. In any event,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: it all really boils down to the O and D lines.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Without those being core strengths, were in trouble regardless, Thank
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: you a team. You make even the tough seasons and
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: times better. Luncheon me next month after I make some
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: moonlighting cash. Okay, all right, don't spend it on us,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I was one of the very few
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: that brought that up as a possibility. I don't know
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: the answer, but at the draft I wondered if this
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: was sort of a hedge or if it was just
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: good business. I always think it's good business the draft
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks here, but I did wonder if there was an
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: element of, you know, we want to develop a young
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: guy so he has someone that he legitimately perceives as
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: competition as opposed to a thirty six thirty seven year
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: old guy who's really just there in case of emergency. Yeah,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: my only thing is just I think maybe it's just
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: unfortunately because of his size, it's just happy looks to
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: me like career backup. Like yeah, I mean, and I
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: know that it is what it is. But but there's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: not a huge difference in their sizes there. Really it's
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: like one inch, yeah, maybe an inch and a half
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: in Max's favors a big inch though Nick in Kansas
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: first looks smaller in his uniform. Yeah, first off, and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: he looks like the kid from Hoosiers first off, switching teams.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a zappy guy. Now. Belichick said that his decision
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: to put zappy and wasn't performance based, but I'm not
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: buying it. Mac had some scrambles, had picked up a
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: few yards, but I think he was scrambling to show
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Bill that he was healthy and could play. Clearly, his
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: ankle wasn't a problem, it was his ability to connect
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: with receivers. Zappy brings that he cooled off in the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: second half, But for what the coaches were asking of him,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I think he did over first. I hope Mac doesn't
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: become another Harry or Win. Not saying we should trade
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: him this season, but we should get rid of him
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: while he still has some upside. I just wow. Yeah,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I at this point, I'm just I don't know what
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I want. But I think back to the year two jump.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: I have not seen a Year two jump. I forgot
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: who asked that question, but it's just I feel like
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: I think Mike was saying this as I walked in
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: when you guys were talking about I think he came
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: in and showed us the same thing that he was
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: doing before he got injured. And just not I'm just
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: not excited about either those guys. And I get that
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: like some people, I see Bailey Zappy is something new
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: that you haven't explored yet, and but I don't really
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: see anything out of these two guys that makes me
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: think that they're gonna get you back to where you
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: want to be, competing with Buffalo in Kansas City with
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of team. So you want to go with Zapp,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: be fine, but I think you need to aim a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: little You probably saim a little higher if you're ready
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: to already move on from Mac. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: both of them could be, especially Mac. He can be competent,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: but you gotta block for him. You know, he's gonna
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: he needs things to be right. Yeah, he needs things
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: to be right. He's not gonna win games on his own,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: you know. It's it's just it's been disappointing, and I
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: think seeing him back out there last night, it just
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, just brought the disappointment back out
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: of just remembering looking at him last year, seeing a
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: comfortable guy, looked like he was in control and confident.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to see he looks broken right now,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: because I think that's too extreme, but he just is.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: And seeing anything like saw all the more reason declare
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: him the starter and let's go. Let's put our full
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: organizational support behind him and see what we've got, and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: see what we have definitively. So would you be mad
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: if they did that to ZAPPI? Um, well, only in
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: the fact that I think Mac is better. But at
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: least they'd be making a commitment. At least they'd be
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: you know, moving in a in a solidly in one direction.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: At least you'd have that. I would disagree with the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: person they did it with, but at least they're doing
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: it with somebody. Yeah, but I think it should be mad.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I need a decision to be made before this Jets game. Like,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: if Max's ready to go, and he's good enough to start,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: he plays the whole game. If he goes, there's four
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: picks in the first half, don't care, plays the whole game. Yeah, Like, yeah, sorry,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: he wants to fight his battles and figure it out.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: Ye I wouldn't. You don't care. I wouldn't really care.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree generally with the point of Fred
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: that I think that I think that Mac has a
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: slightly higher ceiling, but I'm not really It certainly hasn't shown.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing I would say. But I would
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with the panel. If
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I had to choose, you're asking me to choose, I
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: would choose Mac. But I think it's more important that
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: they simply choose. Yeah, choose and stick with it, Like
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: you can't change her. Like if obviously, if he reaggravates
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: his ankle and he doesn't feel well, yeah, but Baileien, Yeah,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: but it's different yeh. But but if he goes out
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: there and you take him out because he threw two picks. No,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: leave him in there. You have the blue pill or
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: the red pill? Which pill will you choose? What's what
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: movie is that? Paul? No, no idea? Okay what movie is?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: You're gonna tell No, you don't like the matri see it. No, procedurally,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: you don't like your don't. As Mac would say, I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: like my routine. My routine is lawn order and that's
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm sticking quick you and my wife. Yeah, I
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: mean it's like background noise. It's always on it. They're
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: gonna prosecute it. They're gonna take you from Apple's tonight.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Um let's go to Cody and Fresno. What's up? Cody? Hey, guys,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Just to touch on what you guys we're saying right now,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: I agree that consistency is key across the board, whether
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: an offensive play calling or personnel on the field. You know,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: they really can't get it going without consistency. But um
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: my point to calling, I don't know if you got
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: touched on it. The tip balls from Zappy? Is that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: really his fault or where the Bears just they just
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: showed up last night? No, I think I think Bears
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: had their hands up. What you're supposed to do with
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: any quarterback. But like there are quarterbacks who have more
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: tip balls than others, it's their faults. There's gonna be
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: one of those things. It's going to start to annoy me.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, as this week is gonna go on, you're
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be told that Bailey Zappy wasn't quite as bad
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: as you think he was last night telling you trying
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: to figure out Paul. Yeah, he said you played terribly,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: but he did outside of the three turnovers, you know,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: the handoff as his fault, I give him that, and
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: you know the two the two interceptions off the pig,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: you know those are unfortunate because if they weren't it,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: were they going to be completed? Were there's going to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: be Aaron passive? Well, what about the errant passes that
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: he did throw? I thought one of his biggest complete
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: one of his biggest completions in the second half. I'm
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: completely convinced he overthrew Hunter Henry in Taekwon Thornton made
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: a sliding catch. Now maybe I'm wrong, maybe he was
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: targeting Thrownton all along, but I mean Henry jumped for
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: that ball, so if he knew he wasn't the intended receiver.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think you would have done that, but and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Paul had Henry you I was in. I squeaked one out. Cody.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: It was close, and I hate you know how much
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: I hate fantasy, but I need it now, I need it.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: I'm all in, How did you do that? I won
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: by six points the Max Baby comparison. I mean, didn't
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: do anything good? No, I mean the pick was absolutely
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: his fault. Absolutely totally agree. And when Dad comes in
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: and gives us that spark of life, you get hope. Yeah,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: I thought ZAPPI made one play and Mac didn't make any. Yeah,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: the play to the play to Parker. I give that
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: play to Zappy. I think that was a great throw
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: to Parker. That's it. That's all I got. Yeah, all right, Cody,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean the two scoring drives were
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: a total of seven plays, and they will they both
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: involved one player in each drive, and one of the
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: plays on the first drive was all Myers. Yeah. Like,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: and to your point, he started at better field position
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: they did. I mean, the two quarterbacks did very little
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: last night, and I agree with Cody. Mac Jones didn't
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: make any positive plays. Really, I'm just confused, Like why
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Mac hasn't had a great second year just because like
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: in the off season he lost his way, got born
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: in shape, was at nutritionists, all the things like okay,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: you go back to okay, worked in the elements, he said,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: he working different elements, Like, oh, he did all the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: right things. So what's the issue. I don't know, Like,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: but you got to look at McDaniel's leaving and taking
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: at least three other offensive coaches with him, and then
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: they bring in Patricia and Judge and and not and
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: on top of that they try to install a new offense.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Like is that part of it? I don't know. But
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: but those those are things that happen. Those are facts. Now,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: did they negatively affect mac in the offensive? You have
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: to look at that. You have to consider it. You
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: have to consider it because they happen. Those were things
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: that happened in the offer. In addition to the positive
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: things that he took care of himself. He got leaner,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: he got stronger, he worked out with his you know,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: um his wide receivers on his own. Those are all
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: good things. These other things happen too. Were they good
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: or bad? Yeah? And I would trace it back to
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: last year too. I mean some of those games at
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, they look similar to what
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: we're seeing now. So I mean, I don't see it
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: as like everything was perfect when we last saw maclast winner,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: and now we came back and everything has gone completely sideways,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: like it's it's been a while, And I think Fall's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: point is like teams getting a sense of what they
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: like to do with him. I think that that's that's
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: a valid part of it too. As we got to
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: the off season, I think everybody sort of stepped back
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: forgot about the way the season ended and looked at
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: the entirety of the rookie season and said, pretty good, right,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: ten and seven, pretty good, ignoring the fact that he's
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: two and seven now it was last nine games. Yeah,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: and again like this isn't a negative like slant. He's
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: eleven and eleven with twenty one picks in twenty two games.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Like that's what Mac Jones's career is, so basically the whole,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Like instead of fixating on the other rookie quarterbacks last year,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: who none of which had none of whom had any
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: success except for Mac. Yeah, and by the way, great,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: real happy for you, but he didn't have a lot
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: of success either. You know, by the way, averaging a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: pick a game in the season isn't that bad if
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: you're throwing for forty touchdowns, you know, with thirty five
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns is a high number in today's NFL. Seventeen
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: intercept I mean intercept. Yeah, that's a high number in
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: today's NFL. Now, if you want to throw forty five
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and you're making some mistakes, I can live with that. Yeah,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: But if you're like thirty two touchdowns seventeen picks, that
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: ain't great. Yeah, that ain't great. You gotta be you
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: gotta be under fifteen, I would say, to be one
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: of the better quarterbacks, and like the best ones are
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: in single digits. I mean, like, what's Aaron Rodgers throw
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: like four now this year? He's a mess. Who knows
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: how many picks he's gonna end up with. But I'm
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: just saying, like I think there's this sort of feeling
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: that he accomplished more than he did. That's why I
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: asked the question a little while ago to you guys
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: like he just needs to name Mac the starter and
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: go with it. Well, what if he just says I'm
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna name Zappy the starter? And go with it. Well,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I would disagree with who he chose, but I would
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: agree with the commitment. Yeah, I would agree with because
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: like and I think it was Cody who just called
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: right And to his point, Bailey, Zappi's played better than
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones this year, right, Yeah, that's what's hard. I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: just I can't remember the last time I was impressed
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: with Mac playing a game like, I mean, Jacksonville last year,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: I guess, but that was Jacks played well in Baltimore
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: this year, you know, for part of the game. It's like,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: it's like that. But I'm gonna be fair. I don't
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: want to give Zappy all the credit for playing well
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: last night when it was two drives, right, like it
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: was two quarters and then the other two quarters back
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: through three picks. Right, you means Zappy no against Baltimore
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was probably one
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: of his better games. But it involved no touchdowns and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: three interceptions. Ye. Let's go to Scott and Wellesley. What's
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: up Scott? Scott? Oh? Sorry, all right, Let's go to
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Brian and Florida. What's up? Brian's gone? What's going on here?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Everybody's bailing? How about Josh and Dallas. Hey everyone, Hey,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Josh artist gears to uh to the defensive side of
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: the ball. And if this has already been stated earlier,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: then forgive me. But they flashed the dat up on
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: the screen last night that said something like the Bears
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: converted more third down last night than they had since
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: two thousan fifteen, I think correct. I believe the color
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: was the quarterback and Matt Forte was a running back,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: so that's just correct. Twenty fifteens the last time they
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: had eleven third down conversions in one games. So that
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: was disappointing to to see, especially considering, you know, they
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: even said on the broadcast usually in these kinds of games,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Belichick is going to make you uh find another way
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: to beat him. And it felt like they were pretty
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: much on par with the rest of the games they
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: played this season in terms of rushing attempts, field passing attempts.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: And so I'd love to just shoot your thoughts on
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: whether you think that breaks down to coaching schemes or
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: was it just xes and OSM. Even in the Brady era,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: there were some games where the Patriots would play a
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: team that they don't face a lot and all of
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: a sudden, like Matt Flynn from Green Bay looks like
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you know, and it's almost like Bill gets
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: stubborn about his game plan. Well like and you don't
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: he didn't know the game plan. He didn't. Yeah, that's
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: what it is. And I think last night he had
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: that that line during the week that Chicago hasn't run
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: and run any design runs for Justin Fields, and they
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: came out with a lot of design runs the other
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: team game plans and he didn't know the game plan.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I think that more often than not, he's the best,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: so his game plan is accurate to what the other
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: team's going to try to do. Last night it wasn't. Yeah,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about a coach there that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: he's relatively new too and doesn't have a he doesn't
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: have like a dossier that Bill could look at and say, Okay,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: this is his patterns, these these are his tendencies. You know,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: A conundrum for you at last year j and Indy
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: writes in it seems to me that mac Jones is
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: operating at a four G frequency in the NFL is
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: operating at five G. He is an iPhone six. The
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: NFL is an iPhone twelve. Poor Mac. Yeah, I feel
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: bad for Mac. But like, if you feel like that,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: what do you feel like ZAPPI is operating now? Zappy
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: sort of an Android? He's not, He's an android? Uh?
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: The fold up one, the new Sam Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: you think that he's high tech. Phone still always chumps
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: anything that Andrew would do. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Andrew
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: can keep coming out with cool phones, and it's just
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: it's never going to be folded up phone is really cheap.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh okay, I misunderstood the analogy. Jay and Indy.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: I can't let the olds talk. Yeah, over in the corner,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: J and Indy, I heard it said that Bill Belichick
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: is a great coach, and some would say he's the
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: greatest of all time. But why does it seem that
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: he's been getting out coached by other teams coaches so
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: much in recent years. Well, that's what happens when you lose,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: you know, So what happens when you don't have better players? Yeah? Right, exactly,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Um he says exactly in a way like
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking the opposite. Maybe he wasn't the greatest, because
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what is the greatest I'm gonna try
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: this email in case, how can you ever know? I
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: gonna try this email? Even an amazing coach never won
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: a game, but he could come out. He was the best.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Lee and Fall River writes in do you remember the
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: days when players wore the pat Patriot logo? Top gun
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: was out, Kate Bush was on the radio, Daniel LaRusso
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: and Johnny were doing karate, and we pulled the first round,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: fifteenth overall quarterback to go with a later round draft
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: guy in the draft drafted after one hundred while getting
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: smoked by the Bears. That would be Tony Easton. I
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: would imagine. No, the more things changed, Tony Easton was
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: eighty three. Oh yeah, it's a famous class. There's big
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: time class and all that stuff is going on now. Yep,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's his point. Yeah, the pat Patriot, Patriot,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: pat Patriot And going back new season of pretty good Cobra. Kay.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I heard it's uh decent, it's better. Yeah.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: The last the last couple I wasn't huge on, but
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: this one I got. This season was worth it. There
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: was some good. Uh what season is five? What show
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: we I was talking about? Four or five? Four? So
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: I means I have to see three of all. I know.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I saw the Yeah, she doesn't watch anything. There's no law,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: there's no order. Heard of the karate Yea. The show
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: Oh Okay Cobra Kai Okay, based on the original Audrey
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: and New Hampshire says people are forgetting that the number
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: one thing that seems to mess up young quarterbacks is
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: a change of scheme and a change of coach. That's
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: exactly what has happened to Mac. And he's being judged
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: as if he's all been if it's all been steady,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: just because Bill is still in charge. I simply can't
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: look at Max's performance without this important dynamic. It's unfortunate,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: but I don't think we can make a fair assessment
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: at this time. Man. I mean, I think that's a
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: fair like extenuating circumstance. I just don't think it explains
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: his play completely. Yeah, I mean I think. But a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: part of it too is just for me, Like I
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: thought they were doing everything to make it easier on it.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: I think they changed the offense to help him, things
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: like that's what I like, why else would you do it?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I think it was It doesn't looked like
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I mean the driving point, Like if Josh McDaniels didn't leave,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think they would have changed the offense. But
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  Speaker 1: what they did was they used it as an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to change the offense for him. Like they did it
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  Speaker 1: because of the coaches. That was the reason that we're
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: going to change this, because we have coaches coming in
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  Speaker 1: and don't know the other offense. Yeah, so we're going
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  Speaker 1: to teach them this. But while we're doing it, it's
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: going to be catered to you, Matt Jones. And everyone
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  Speaker 1: goes through this all the time, like all the things
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  Speaker 1: that they're doing differently than last year or all things
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  Speaker 1: that should be right in Max wheelhouse and they haven't
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  Speaker 1: really manifested. That's what's so weird. That's what's so weird. Um,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: let's see. Dave writes in from Toronto, first time emailer,
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  Speaker 1: a long time listener regarding size Paul's inference that our
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  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks are the same size. I didn't say they
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  Speaker 1: were the same size. I said they're both small. Because
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: this isn't correct. One six three Matt Jones is six
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  Speaker 1: foot two inches five and five eighths. Bailey Zappy is
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: six foot zero inches and a half two inch difference
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  Speaker 1: different difference of two point one two five in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL is huge. Combine this with the arm length difference
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: for tip balls see below. So there's a significant arm
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  Speaker 1: length difference between the two UM measurements on that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he says it's He says it's significant. One is um
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  Speaker 1: has a wingspan of seventy four and three quarters, the
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  Speaker 1: other has seventy nine and one eighth. So, uh, that
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  Speaker 1: puts Mac in the twenty ninth percent tile and Bailey's
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  Speaker 1: in the ninetieth percent. Tyler the other way around, they're
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  Speaker 1: both small. So Bailey's got a long arms. Sure, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can give me a numbers both snow, I'm sorry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Mac has seventy nine in an eighth so he's in
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  Speaker 1: the ninetieth percent times long. Yeah, but in terms of
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  Speaker 1: arm length it's not that much different. Although Mac is
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  Speaker 1: thirty two when five aids puts him in the seventieth
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  Speaker 1: percent time, why are we doing this? And Bailey is
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: thirty one and three eights puts him in the twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight percent? Time? We are both small, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for NFL standards, they're both small for quarterback standards. Yes,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: for NFL quarterback standards. They're both small, Yeah, particularly when
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: you take into account that neither of them is a
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  Speaker 1: dynamic athlete. Like if you're small and Russell Wilson in
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  Speaker 1: his prime, you can get away with it, or you
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: have the aptitude of like Drew Brees in his prime,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: you can get away with it. I haven't seen that
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  Speaker 1: for either one of these two guys. Right, A couple
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: more calls, Patty and Agaham, what's up? Patty? Stop everyone? Hey,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: So you know last night when I turned on the
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: pregame show, Maas started with her big key was don't
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  Speaker 1: do anything stupid. And I'm sorry, but going into the
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: game planning to play two quarterbacks was flat out stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I really don't understand the logic of it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I could say two examples and my football
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: and the thirty plus years I've been watching football. One
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: was in two thousand with Drew Bledsoe and Michael Bishop.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean you had a known commodity with Drew
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  Speaker 1: and you were I mean you were trying to pretty
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: much give crap. Yeah, that was different. See, I I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: don't know this, but I think this is Bill covering
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  Speaker 1: up for his quarterbacks. Him saying that, so that if
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I do have to yank a guy for performance, we
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: can say it was the plan. Yeah, and I think
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: he's covering up it's quarterback, and I think he thinks
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: he's doing them, you know. So you think he put
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: that out there before the game and Casey had to
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. I said, I said this to Alex
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: during the game. I said, watch like in the post game,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Bill is going to be asked why he pulled him
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: when he did, and he's going to say, oh, it
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: was designed that way all along. We were only going
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: to play him this amount of stabs. It just so
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: happened that it happened after a pick. I was like,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna say that, and he's going to say
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't performance based. But he didn't. But I think
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  Speaker 1: he said it wasn't planned. They didn't have a plan
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  Speaker 1: on when to take when. Yeah. Yeah, any doubt he
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: doubled down on that this morning. None of it makes sense.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: None of it makes sense. Do you think it was
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: stupid to play both of them? I agree, yeah, And
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: I think you just you gotta live and die with
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, if if if you get
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: mac a break for another week. So what I mean,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: if you get who cares what the end result is,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: even if they still would have gotten blown out, that'd
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: be playing the whole game or mac playing the whole game.
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  Speaker 1: Just I mean, to me, that's this is like, this
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: is a kind of crap where you can lose your
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: locker room. What's doing doing stuff like this? And yeah,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I said last night, I'm I'm resetting
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: my expectations for this team. I thought that this could
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: be a ten win team. To me, they'd be lucky
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: to win anywhere between like four or five games this year. Now,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, Yeah, that's that's really harsh. It's bad.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. Thanks. You know. Here's the other
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: thing about Bill, and people have said it before, like
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: he doesn't look at quarterback is much different than any
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: other position, you know, but it is. But he says
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: it is all the time. Yeah, he says that that
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: there's a uniqueness to that position. He says that all
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: the time. Okay, well then you know then the speculation
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: is wrong. But I agree, No, I agree with you.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: And that's how he that's how he acts. It's not
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: what he says, but it's how he acts. Yeah, I
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: agree with you, but the quarterback position is completely different
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: than every other position out there. Yeah, you know, like
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: do you remember when, like the Miami game, all of
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: a sudden Cole Strange get out the sack. He got
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: run right by and then he sat out the next
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: two series, Like you could do that and like no
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: one bats an eye, you know, or Isaiah Wynn and
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon in Cleveland. Right, you can't do that and
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: expect it to just fly under the radar at quarterback, like,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: no one's going to talk about it. No one in
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: the locker room is going to say something about it
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: or think something about it. It's even worse than than
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: saying it thinking it. If there's some people like, well
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: what do we do? And now you know what's happening.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: There are guys that are zappy guys, and there are
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: guys that are matt guys. You know what's happening. It
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: has to it's human nature. All right, we're gonna have
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: to wrap it up. We'll be back tomorrow, so everybody
• 1:58:13
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