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The Pond Creek Monster · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we are here today with our friend Bryce.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He shot me a message, said he's got some weirdness going on on his farm, some squatchiness down in southern Illinois.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we did a little talking before the show.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a pretty weird life all together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get into some squatchiness and then get into some strangeness.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So like I said earlier, feel free to stop me at any time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll start off with the squashingness.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I remember being a little kid, and my grandma telling me a story about whenever my dad was only like four years old, and my uncle was a newborn.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She saw a honey bear across the road in the field.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so she got scared because it stood up on two legs and started walking.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So she grabbed that and she grabbed my uncle ran in the house and hit in the closet until my grandpa got home that night from work.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: As a kid, her telling me this, I hear honey bear.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking, okay, so like a brown bear.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think we had those.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Our buddy Jeremiah Byron, his show.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he's a good dude.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So fast forward.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think about two years ago, I was listening to one of his episodes and he was talking to this guy named Country and Country was talking about Bigfoot and all that and he called them honey bears and as soon as he said that light bulb went off on that story grandma told me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So if my dad was four years old, that would have been like 1962.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's been activity out there at least since then, 10 years ago, my dad was out there on the farm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's lived out there most his life and him and my cousin, they were at my cousin's place, which is maybe three-eighths of a mile from where my dad lives on the same road.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And they were sitting there talking, it was getting to be about dust, you know, the coyotes were all working up and everything out in the field across the road, you know, bugs all that making noise.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: While I said not to know where dad just heard this loud, like vicious roar and.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He told me about it because it was like everything went dead quiet the hair on his arms and my cousin's arms stood up and these are guys that do not scare easy So that caught my attention, but still yet.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's weird.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm thinking, well, I mean, you know, there's cougar out there.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's Bob casters all kinds of different things that there could have been But that's that it didn't sound like anything he'd heard before.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So now, we're going to fast forward to Mother's Day, 20, 20, 3.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Me and my wife and our kids went out to the farm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to go look from her rails.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And my dad told me where there might be some at still.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So my cousin, the one that I was talking about that was with my dad whenever they heard it, he has passed it at this point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: but his place is still there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we parked at his house and then walked behind there and went through the tall grass area by the pond and then got over to the field that's behind there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's about a 40-acre field back there and it had been distrelatively recently and probably a week or so.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And, um,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Whenever we got out there, my son, he saw a bunch of big footprints, and it first, whenever I first looked at it, first thing I was thinking, just seeing him from a distance is, okay, somebody's been out here with rubber boots or something on, you know, going through there, like somebody's been out here stealing the rails, and, um, so we walk up on it closer, and
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know whenever you wear rubber boots.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Number one, you don't see toe prints.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We saw toe prints once we got up on them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know anybody with an 18 inch foot.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Whew.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a hunker there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 18 inches by about five and a half wide.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Holy, oh.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was cutting the cool closest to the pond.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was cutting that corner, going to the set of woods where my dad said the murals were.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we still went and looked for Morelle's, but we didn't find any, but it was really weird, right?
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I mean, we saw like a big spot in that tall grass area where like something had been betting down there, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But I was thinking deer.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I really didn't think he's.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't expect him to find huge ass prints or anything.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so see that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Whenever we're coming back from the woods, going back into the field, ended up about, want to say about 20 feet from where the print, no, no, I got there wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're coming back in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There was the prints.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then right by the prints was the back half of a deer carcass, but it was like, you know, picked clean, but the bones were not scattered.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then 20 feet up from that was where the front half was and they were doing that still had any further on it was the front hooves from about like the joint down to the hoof.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's strange.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it was like something just literally ripped it in half like anytime I've been out there on, you know, walk around the woods or anything and you come across like a coyote kill or something like that the bones are always scattered.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's never, you know, together, or at least it's that together, and that was really strange, too.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, made a mental note of it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We took pictures of the prints.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got pictures and stuff.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Helina, you have to send them our way if you, if you're cool with that.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you happen to look and like,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you happen to see how long the stride was between the prints?
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to make note of that?
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, guessing, looking at it, take our stride, like a big stride for us, and add like another half step.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So roughly fourish feet, maybe longer.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: pretty, pretty decent good decent side track.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't like, you know, they were side by side prints or anything either.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, you know, right foot forward left foot forward going like that.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was weird.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, you know, I'm like, yeah.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wow, because then I remember Dad's story, you know, which at that point would have been eight years previous about hearing something, which where he heard that come from would have been, like at the front of Jerry's house, the field across the road.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, right there in that same vicinity.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was weird.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, didn't, I mean, I told Dad about it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This one guy that I used to be on his little team with told him about it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't really want to check it out or nothing.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I just kind of, it's like all right.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I just kind of kept it to myself.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just like, I'm going to look into this more at another time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's see.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Looking on here, I made a note.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I got my flashlight on here in the car.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're good.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did also, whenever we were in the woods after we had followed the footprints into the woods, I did notice, and I don't know if it was purposely made or if it was just happened to be a bunch of sticks leaned up against the side of a tree in the middle of the woods there, but there
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know though because it wasn't very big and like every time I've seen pictures of a tree structure or anything like that, they've always looked pretty good size, you know, so that could have just been coincidental.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I've seen some documentaries and read some stories where researchers think that the smaller ones are sometimes built as just like area markers.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: like one will build it to let the other one know hey there's food here you know there's there's deer there's water that how they might even be eat more else you know know you know that's exactly exactly what I was gonna ask is if you know the thought process because I would be the same way if I even if I saw like a legit structure in the woods I don't I don't think I'm experienced enough to know
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: For sure, that's a big foot structure.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when he said smaller, it made me wonder if that was markers because it sounds like just from the lineage that you've laid out, it sounds like migration patterns.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was wondering.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which tells me that big foot has been around.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we know it from native lore, but
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would suggest that they've been around for a very long time to have migration patterns.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because we're, you know, the first person that's described that to us as well.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's people, ironically enough, you say, your activity starts more in May, or we've had people contact us and say it starts more in the fall for them.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And as you think about Steve, because as the crow flies for him,
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good jump, but it's because it's where they were calling in.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, it wasn't very far from us was it was like an hour and a half to the yes, yes, yes, I'm a little over an hour south of you guys, right?
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to I was going to ask to like you don't have to be specific of course, but like how are are you close to Shawnee because Shawnee is a very, very squatchy area.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's unsacitings that come from down there.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm within we'll say 25 miles of the Shawnee.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so why is the little closer, um, but as far as like driving probably 25 miles,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely the same general area.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a lot.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know, gosh, what is in the Carter Bashar, he a lot of his squats investigations and a lot of evidence he's picked up has been down in the Shawnee.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's definitely a squatty squatty area down there.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, these dudes from the squatters have ran around down there as well.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I've talked with him a couple of times and one of my friends, he's the one that we made a YouTube video about my siding and everything.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's really good friends with them as well.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I emailed them to try to get them on here, but I haven't heard anything back yet.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we'll things will work out to where we can get those dudes on here because I'd like to pick their brains too.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome, first off, getting to talk to people from the same general vicinity that have had encounters and kind of, it's almost like putting a puzzle together, you know?
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was gonna bring that up too, like how wild would it be as if,
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: his big foot is connected to previous listeners, big foot that mentioned this, you know, on their property in the fall, I get, you know, it has a clear migration pattern, which weird kind of that their migration would be more toward the north near the end of the year, but they're also bigger covered in fur, so I mean, yeah, I don't know.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was talking to is like, I didn't like, you know, 2023, 2024 didn't really do a whole lot of poking around out there and or even really like having my dad, like, listen for things or whatnot, but this year, this year's been very productive with calls, knocks,
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I saw it the second time this year, or I don't know if it was the same one, but I saw another one, you know, I had a second sighting of one.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming it's the same one though, just because it looked about the same except the distance I saw from was a little bit longer because it was up a hill.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you've actually seen them twice.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I would consider.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: going out into the field, if I could just see a footprint, I'm good.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sold.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bigfoot is fucking legit.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's what I'm trying to, like, thin a bigfoot itself would be fan fucking tastic, but just what I would want out of the experiences to see a footprint, because I think that in itself will blow my mind.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, dude, whatever we saw that trail of
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: No way, like I couldn't imagine for me that would cement big foot, you know, I'm staying because we I've talked about it.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've talked about it before like there's there's a there's a vast difference in being in believing and experiencing and for me just just seeing like I'm I'm picture means to you out there and we just see a trail of
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: to kilo-neal footprints, walking through the woods, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's that's I can crazy.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was because I was just like, I mean, I wasn't out there looking for that.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was looking for Marielle's.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't right.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can found big footprints.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I go.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was fucking nuts, man.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I apologize for cousin.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're good.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to the show.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to do good.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so okay.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So now we'll go to 2024 and this was when I had my first sighting, but actually seeing the creature.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was bringing my grandpa, he had dementia.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's since past and I had my youngest son with me.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was three at the time and we were going out there to the farm and I was only just crossed over the bridge where the creek is.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I always look whenever I'm driving out there, you know, look to see what I see in the fields, you know, deer, turkey, whatever, or if somebody's out there that shouldn't be out there, things like that because we're kind of 911 ourselves out there, you know, and I've seen, I caught movement out of the corner of my right eye, and I looked over.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when I looked over,
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I see something huge bent over digging in the hillside of the field because it's got a slight bit of a hill to it, and especially since after the coal mine came through in long wall and everything's kind of sank in various spots.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: something, it was, it was right there digging and what caught my attention was it's arm flinging back because I mean, like stretch your arm out at another half an arm and that's how long this arm was going back solid black, it had a, like, kind of like a shine or a sheen to the fur like a horse.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, like, like a black horse, like when the sunlight is kind of shiny a little bit.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, or maybe it was wet.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because the direction that it was, it's back was facing was me and the creek.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was kind of turned at about a 90 degree angle for me.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I never saw the face, which I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because depending on how the face looks, it could have been horrifying, but
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, and I mean, I only saw this thing for like four seconds max because I had grandpa on the car, I had my youngest in the car, so I wasn't about to stop and get out and go check it out because, you know, what if it was hostile, you know what I mean?
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just like, okay, I got to hurry up and drop him off because I'm going back and I'm going to take another look and see if it's there.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: just about to where I was going to lose sight of it.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It stood up.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: When it stood up, the body build on this thing, it was not like the Patterson Gimland film.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was a like Patty.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Have you guys seen the movie or know what I'm talking about?
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a Sam Elliott movie, the man who killed Hitler and then the Bigfoot.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard of it, but I haven't watched.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah,
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if like maybe like Google, like what the big foot looked like in that because not the color of it, but the body build of it, it was more of a lean, like very big, but leaner than like patty was, like you know, like you'll hear some people say like it, it looked like a basketball player almost out there, except eight foot tall.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of like that, not super skinny, but not hulking either.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you, if you, if you view that, and I feel like I've heard the way whenever I saw it, like where, yeah, right.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like a lot of people may hear that and be like, well, that wasn't a big player this.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you, if you view it as a simple, let's just say for arguments say here, a primate,
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: animals, animals go hungry all the time.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have illnesses that will cause that, you know, to be malnourished and lose weight and so on.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that could be a reason that's the why it was lean.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe it was just a leaner, leaner, big foot in general.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And see, and I was, I wasn't really sure because I was like, holy shit, because I remembered the footprints, you know, from the year before and I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I reached out to Joe Doyle from Hillbent Haller.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hey man, can I just run this by a because I'm not sure what I saw.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I know what I saw, but I don't know what I saw because I didn't see the face.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, man, he doesn't sounds like a big foot to me.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was like, especially since you found Prince the year before.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, it wasn't the same field that I found the Prince in the year before, but that field was literally at the top of the hill.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this was at the bottom of the hill.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: The hill is about a good.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Quarter mile probably maybe a little bit more than a quarter mile Hill and from the creek going up to where like my dad's house is on the farm and Yeah, I mean, so it was pretty wild So I got home.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I told my wife about it and I was like we're going back out there tomorrow And I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna see if I can't find anything to prove what I saw
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it rained that night, which, of course, I was like, fuck me, because, you know, rains all the time and may down here.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we went and her and the boys stayed in the car.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just went venture and off into the field.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And eventually I came across where it was at.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Found foot prints.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I found where it was scraping.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, because of it raining and it being on a hill, the prints were kind of filled in, but you could still see the indentation.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the dig where it was scraping at, you could see in there too, you could see a little hole too, or maybe it had reached in.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it was grabbing a snake, going for a go for what, you know.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we here too, but it would, yeah.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And but Amber said that whenever I got there, whenever I was just standing, where the hill was coming down and everything that she could barely see me standing, I'm five foot 10.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And whenever I bent down to look at the scrape area, she lost sight of me completely.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when I saw this thing, I saw probably like upper thigh with it bent over scraping or even thrown the dirt back and everything.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I saw like upper thigh up just to give you a reference of tallness on that thing.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big, big, big, big, big, yeah.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: a Sasquatch.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: digging like I know that's weird like you hear there's theories that maybe they bury their dead but like I don't know it's it's not strange that it was digging because obviously it's probably like a forger could have been digging for roots could have been digging for like you said gofers or snakes or you think it was time of year was trying to find something to eat maybe it saw something and just like fuck it I'm going after it that's lunch you know
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was way crazy.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I mean, and I know that sounds insane, but I mean, it's what I saw, you know?
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I mean, yeah, I don't know how to describe it.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we're in like the sheen you said described in the hair.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It immediately made me think of like the the theory about them.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're if you watch a lot of like,
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: the DNA checks for for hair and stuff.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They say that the follicles are like hollow I believe and it has something to do with like maybe some sort of camouflage they have, which that's immediately what I thought when you said the sun was like reflecting off of it kind of making it sheen like maybe that something like that.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because like is it wet like you know now I mean
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: is weird.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I figured out where it came from, like, coming from the creek, like the path it took, because whenever number one, there was just a great big, like, for something that had been and walking through big and broad shoulder.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And whenever I was walking back there trying to see if I could find some more prints or anything to take pictures of, I ended up seeing a tree branch break, but it wasn't just like snaps down or anything because I mean, like that ice storm we had last winter, I mean, there's a ton of those that look like that out there now.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: this was snapped down and then twisted around several times.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that told me it was 10 feet up in the air.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that tells me that was something with a reach that had intention.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And had hands because you got to grip that to be able to twist it.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, there wasn't no way I was getting myself there and doing that.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was in May.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was in May, too.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was in 2024.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was in May, um, about two weeks before Mother's Day.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, in 2023, the footprints I saw them on Mother's Day.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, take a look at my paper here and make sure I'm didn't miss anything.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was just, I was talking to a guy at work who is like an avid hunter, and he's into the paranormal, but he never really got into big foot, and he's like, I didn't think, because I was talking to him like, man, we got a guy coming on the shows, got possibly some big foot on his property down, so they're in Illinois, and he goes, I didn't think there's big foot in Illinois, so I'm like, oh, contrary, so I looked at that, and Illinois's top five.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's five in sightings.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, according to the BFR, there's more big foot sightings in Illinois than there's in Alaska.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you think like it would be out there?
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess there's less people, which I mean, I guess kind of accounts for sightings, but yeah, like it's out there with like California, California, and Washington.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy because it's right smack in the middle of the country, like it's yeah, I looked that up on my guts fucking wild.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, dude, there's all sorts of weird shit going on with Sella and Illinois man.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, why did they call the area?
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in little Egypt.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a good house of weird.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got garden of the gods down there at the Shiny.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, giant city.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: was your second sighting also when was your second sighting was it in May Friday was earlier this year oh yeah and so okay so have my sighting in 2024
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I contacted my friend Joe Terry about it and I was talking with him and I'm like, look dude, like, I know you investigate these things.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He makes documentary films for his YouTube channel and I was like, you want to come check this out, man.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: See if we can find something and it took a while before, you know, our schedules worked out where he could come on down and do it.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the week before he was coming out, I was with my dad and we were unloading the lawnmower that I borrowed and it was about 930 at night and coming.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: like where we were at we were at the barn across from his house and he went because he was like hey one of the boys left their soccer ball here I'm gonna go grab it I was like I and he went to go grab it and there's one of the three ponds that we have Kyle is about I don't know I'd say
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: back from the from the house.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I could be off on that.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but, you know, 930 tonight pitch black out there and I'm sitting there.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm undoing the trailer and everything getting it off the hitch.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And all said, night here, a woop, but it wasn't like a loud woop.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was almost like, uh, it was it was
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, wait a second, I go, dad, did you hear he's like, yeah, he's like, I heard stuff like that all the time out here.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't like what I'm like, why do you tell me this?
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was just like, well, I was going to, but he just another Thursday night, you know?
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I started telling me about all these different sounds he's heard.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: just since I had my sighting back in 24 and I was like, okay, so he was telling me about like, he'll build fires at night and stuff out there a lot and you know, like after midnight, he'll be sitting out there and he'll hear whoops.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's had a very shrill like five second long whistle
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And always coming from that same direction, like over by the pond behind his house.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I mean, there's some old barns back behind there, too.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's, uh, shit.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Out of there's there's some fruit that grows back there.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of what the heck it's called right now, but there's some fruit trees back there.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, yeah, so I mean, there's there's definitely
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: an area where something big like that could chill and not be seen, you know, um, I mean, it was wild.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was telling me all about it.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was right before Joe came out to film and the the second documentary.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did the one for YouTube.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got it out, um, if anybody's interested in watching it, is it okay if I say the name of it?
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, just like go to
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And because that's what I came up with and like, yeah, well, you know, everything's big foot.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, I was like, well, Murphy's burrow.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they've got the big muddy master.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got the Pawn Creek, so Pawn Creek, Master.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so we called it that and it's about an hour long and now I mean it's just me telling my story like I'm telling you here except this this episode here with you guys has got more info because more has happened since then and so hey, all of
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're sitting there and we've been filming most of the day and it was getting to get about dust and we were going to go set up the fire because where my my 13 acres that I personally own, there's a little like roadway that the coal mine had built because they tried to dig a well back there but they didn't hit waters but they left the trail and everything and
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we used that to set up a fire pit area back there and my wife was going to interview and tell stories that my grandma told her that even I didn't know about things she's experienced whenever she used to live out there on the farm and so like the honey bear story some ghost stories and just other weird shit like UFOs and whatnot.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So whenever we were getting there, there was, let's see, there was Joe, Jason, Russ, me, and then Amber got there right afterwards.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So eventually there was five, but at the time of my second sighting, there was four of us, and Russ was sitting right next to me in the back of the truck on the tailgate.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was Jason's truck, and he has this great big, like F350 or something like that.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was back and out of the drive and whenever he was back and out of the drive and turning into the road, we're looking down the hill towards where the creek is.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking and I'm like, is somebody down there standing in the road, because.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: There is a house down that way, but it's like further down the road and going back up the other hill, there's no reason that anybody should have been standing down there plus they looked really big like tall, you know, and from that distance, a guy like me or you, we're not going to look very big.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, that's weird and run like do you see that and Russ is like, yeah, I don't he's like, that looks too tall to be a person and Russ is a skeptic.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's big skeptic.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He likes the idea, but he doesn't think it's really here, you know.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there he is looking at it with me.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then once again, it was black kind of on the leaner side, but still had some size to it, you know.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: but like whenever it was facing us for sure, but it almost had a little bit of a lean to it, kind of like a curiosity like it was trying to see if we were going away from it or coming towards it, you know?
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I told this story of people have been like, dude, why did you tell the guys to stop?
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, the whole time I'm looking at it, the trucks move and me and Russ are trying to figure out what it is we're looking at.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, once it clicks, we're already over there getting ready to turn and go up into where the fire fire area is going to be the bonfire area.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we told them after that, and of course, they were like, oh shit, so like we were, you know, they wanted to go back and look, nothing was there by then.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that was weird.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I feel very, very confident in it being either the same one or like in its family, planner, whatever that might be out there.
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: because it was like, I mean, the field was right there where I saw it in 2024, you know?
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like there was the creek, there was the field.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just standing in the road, staring right up the road at us.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So especially with build being similar.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what time of year, what time of year was this?
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's see, this would have been,
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: late July early August I can't I can't remember exactly which month because it was right there it like the changing of the months.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So not a few far away from me.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to as I'm saying like I want to say it was like last week of July first week August somewhere near.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was weird.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was definitely weird.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have, whenever we did the YouTube documentary, you know, Joe told me, because I told him, I was like, hey, man, I found a bunch of footprints out here because him and his camera guy he had at the time, it wasn't us.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was somebody else.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: They had to be back up in Springfield where they live at, um, by like, I don't know, it was like early afternoon.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we did like a morning to about lunchtime investigation.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out there looking around some more and like I got to thinking this is what I've been doing and it's been working so like you'll see like on podcasts and TV shows whenever like Native Americans talking about Bigfoot, how they'll say something like, um,
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just like if you're out there, just announce yourself, you know, let them know, hey, I'm here in peace, you know, you guys are welcome here, things like that, you know, so I've been doing that and then just asking if they could give me like a sign of its presence or something along those lines, and dude, it was, it was fucking crazy man, so.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sitting there.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in that field again.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did that.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm maybe 15 feet off the road in the field.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And right there, I look down and like, four or five feet in front of me, I find a, I find a footprint, toes, everything.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, now it was old.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't brand new, it was old, but I found it.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I found that one, that one was 16 inches.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I found some other ones that were a little bit smaller, like probably around 14.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wear a size 13, but like the only reason that I know that these weren't like me or somebody else is because they had to print.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was no like two or boot rubber boot outline anything like that, no tread, nothing like that.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'm like, Oh, cool.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sitting here taking pictures and everything like that.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then coming from the creek in the tree line, I hear really weird sound.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this sound, this sound, it sounded like, if you're like, like, like a deep,
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like a deep belly, grow like you were hungry or something, you know?
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you were mumbling that sound.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it sounded by coming from the tree log.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not so much like the Samurai chatter that Ron Morhead caught.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: This was more like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'd never have once at all ever felt anything hostile coming from from these things.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that was wild.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like it was just a mountainous presence just letting you know, hey, right here.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: To give me a sign if it was around, you know, and then it started doing that.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought maybe seeing the footprints was the sign, but here in that, you know, I was like, well, maybe that's the sign.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's a maybe it's a mutual respect thing just you know there's your sharing your coexisting sharing the land together It's it's using resources, but it's being appreciative of it.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's it's even crazier to me to think that Like you talk about how the natives would reach out and communicate it could be in their language And then you reach out and communicate and have responses in our language, which means I'm where down the line either
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It has adapted itself to our language or it has some type of whether it be mental connection or a spiritual connection.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Something out of the norm, maybe it's intuitive enough to recognize it's able to read your body tones and your body language and the tones that are coming out.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: is not hard to tell when somebody has a threatening tone threatening body like you know what I mean like we're we're pretty perceptive of that yeah it could even like look maybe can lock into your like intention you know you don't even be on the body like I never like whenever I'm out there squatting I never take any weapons with me which I know people say it's just completely idiotic of me to do but I've never felt a reason to have to
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, um, so October 17th just last month, um, we did like Joe came back down and Jason came down and we did a for Joe's channel.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did like a we're supposed to do a live stream on YouTube.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there was some weird shit going on out there with like electronics malfunctioning.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: It showed on Joe's phone or whatever that we were live on YouTube, but we were not live on YouTube.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was so weird.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: The video recorded and all that.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it never did go live on YouTube.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so here we are the whole time thinking that we're talking to people and all that stuff put you know like like got people watching in all that and no nothing but before they got there because they were down at Dixon Springs where that's where they had their camps set up and so whenever they finally got to the farm I'd already been sitting out there in my car.
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just pulled up is probably.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: about six o'clock when I got to the farm, and they got there a little bit after eight.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I was sitting out there, and I just went ahead, rolled the windows down, turned the car off completely and just listened.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know, who knows, maybe I'll hear something.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it wasn't too long, about maybe 15, 20 minutes and, um,
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've always heard people describe hearing something coming through the woods that sounded like a bulldozer or rhinoceros just blasting through trees and whatnot.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I heard that, or it was the top of a tree falling out of the top of the tree and hitting every branch on the way down when there was no wind twice.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: it once and then it happened again about 10 minutes later.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I'm going to say, like, what are the odds of being in the right spot at the right time to hear a tree top out.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you just heard it twice in the same night.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So kind of eliminate it.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was, it was
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was like, when I was like, what the fuck, you know, because I'm like, okay, that's weird.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I knew my dad was on his tractor, but he was like, oh, they're into the farm.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't like he was in the woods directly across from where my car was parked at.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like, where I parked that was just been right there by the barn that's in front of his house, where he has his fires at and everything.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And here's things.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: and I mean, whatever they got there, I told them.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we went over there and like they have their night vision, all that stuff.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was running the parabolic dish, heard a clear is day, would knock like something, it almost sounds something like a baseball bat and just smack the hell out
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: trying to think.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like you could hear the coyotes, but then you could hear something trying to imitate the coyotes.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it had a deeper voice and at the end of a coyote, you know, this thing, it had some roughness to it at the end, you know.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: strange.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you do hear a count to that.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to mimic things, mimic coyotes, mimic owls.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's heard it mimic a, mimic a train whistle.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because behind his house, the train tracks that go to the coal mine that's not too far away from the farm, um,
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: it goes through several times a day and always at night that said and like one went through but it was already gone and then few minutes later he hears something try to do a train whistle but whenever it ended on the whistle it was like you know like fun about yeah
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: he wrecks out there.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, what the fuck?
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was telling me, I mean, he's hurt.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to get him to, you know, go on a show with me and talk to you guys because he did do the documentary, but he's kind of since then like, okay, I'm just going to tell you what I hear and you can tell people.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I mean, he's, he's, you know, he likes to keep to himself, you know,
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's heard quite a few different things out there man.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's heard things trying to mimic owls.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are owls out there, tunnel owls out there, even.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I mean, I've heard them.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you can definitely hear.
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that, but then he'll explain what he hears and how it ends and it always just sounds like what you hear people say who have heard a big foot mimic an owl.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: How it almost sounds like it, but right there at the end, it just kind of starts to sound a little not alish.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to think of the guy's name and I cannot remember for the life of me, but he did a bunch of investigations like just north of us like up in Green County and Pike County and he got a bunch of super weird mimicry recordings like sometimes you hear like in squatchy areas you'll hear
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh the classic like zippers sound people constantly talk not constantly but there's multiple reports of people here and like a tint zippers up when there's there's nothing around he's got some those on recording um something mimicking like like uh your tools like like like a weed eater and shit out in the middle of the woods that would fuck me in the middle of the night was the middle of the night I'd be like I'm out
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess you don't think about them mimicking like non biological sounds they're hearing, but if they attribute those sounds to humans, like what better way them try to blend in to be like, all right, I'm going to make this sound that this human was making I saw in his yard the other day, you know?
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, parrots do it.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly what I was thinking.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, parrots is the same thing.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, they'll mimic any noise they hear.
• 52:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're, honestly, and I, that we're talking about it, they're actually good at it.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where it's like, I've heard them.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just watched a video the day of the one, like, mimicking a blender or like your phone camera snap.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're almost there.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're almost, I mean, there is that where you can kind of tell,
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's the parrot doing it where it's not perfect, but it's there.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just like kind of like we were just saying with the mimic and the howling.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just a different enough.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just different enough.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, you know, Kyle, how like we were talking, you know, like the Native American way and everything.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: There used to be a Native American settlement out there on the farm way before we ever
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was telling you guys earlier, before we started, there was also a fort out on the farm.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fort, it was called Fort Jordan.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently from research, I'd done and everything, it was one of the first forts built, like this side of the Ohio River in America's expansion westward.
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you can only imagine how that went down
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And my whole thing is, is like, you know, Native Americans that were there, there was, I mean, there was definitely Native Americans there.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I had it.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I found a ton of arrowheads when I was a kid walking that creek and everything just walking around the banks and whatnot after like a big rain or something like that.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the water would be going through
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm wondering, just maybe if those things have been around since then, you know, like, it makes me wonder because like, I don't think I would have the luck I've had, if I'd have went in strapped, went in even with a knife or something like that and not done.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: how I always do every time I go and I announce myself and all that, not just like, you know, be like, you know, force brothers, things like that.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't say, hey, big foot, don't you know.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, I try to be as polite and then everything is like, can't what I'm doing it, just, you know, giving it the respect that it deserves to have for something the size that it is.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: right and just letting it know it's welcome and you know as long as you respect our property and respect our possessions and whatnot and don't try to do anything crazy then we are going to have any issues kind of deal you know and so far so good.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was actually wondering now.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to bring it up, but we kind of straight away and now you've kind of brought it back.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I, I would assume that there's been hunting on your property.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of some kind like with rifles and shotguns and yeah, my cousin back when he was alive, he hunted all the time,
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: once I blew me, not very off.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I was wondering, you know, you made the comment about, you know, some people would think that you're crazy for not carrying some type of defensive tool out there, whether it be a firearm or a knife or even a large stick, whatever the fuck it may be.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird, it's weird to think that it somehow registers that and would be like, all right, I'm not gonna approach this individual because they may be not have the intent to harm me
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: but they have the ability to arm me now.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting, it's an interesting thought process there.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I'm a person like me.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I always carry a knife no matter what, but even in those situations, I thought about if me and Steve just go out solo, I would probably carry a firearm and it's not with it would never be with the intent to harm said big foot.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would be with the intent of I will defend us if that ever need to happen, right?
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's interesting to think that maybe that in itself,
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: spearheads all of it and they're like, no, we're not even going to go around them because yeah, they have the ability to kill.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have the ability to hurt.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some people will be like, oh, they're bullet proof, but every one thing I've always hurt people agree on is if you get them in the eye, you got them.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, we've heard stories of them being taken down.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, like, say God forbid to say that it did do something that prove that it was not, you know, a docile creature or something like that out there, like, you know, harmed something or whatever, then I might start packing when I'm out there, but, you know, until that happens, I just, I'm just going to keep doing like I am and hopefully lose.
• 58:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've almost reached like in a mutual respect of like, you know, hey, I'm here.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're here.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've kind of felt each other out and we're good.
• 58:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got trust you.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's some, I think it's the best way to put it's mutual respect.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what's crazy is like, because I grew up on that farm as a kid.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I remember like I used to walk through the fields and stuff to.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: cut over to my grandparents house and everything because I wasn't about to walk in the road because people drive like many acts out there when they aren't going out there or I don't.
• 59:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like I'd be walking through the fields and I would hear what sounded like somebody building a barn or something like that is what I always thought as a kid because you would just hear like what sounded like hammer on wood.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, now, you know, of course, as a kid, I don't even heard a big foot, you know, right?
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It won't until like that frickin' ex files or something like that, you know?
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know whatever they did, the Jersey Devil episode, it wasn't about a big foot, but like the way they kind of made it look almost made you feel that way a little bit and it being like feral people, but not even the real Jersey Devil.
• 59:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, like that's whenever like I started kind of taking an interest in the things was that show, but Never once did I ever think anything I heard out there.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as a kid was anything other than just some farmer doing something out there because used to in the, you know, in the late 80s early 90s, there used to be quite a quite a bit well, not quite a bit.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot more people out there than there are now.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: When the coal mine came through in 0607.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: almost everybody sold out to them and moved.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't sell out.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just, you know, pay us for any subsided sandwiches and things like that.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: and that way we still own our property, but they own pretty much everything else out there.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, you can just imagine all this property that nobody has lived in just growing up, trees, all kinds of stuff.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's the perfect camouflage for those things to be out there.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, there's the creek, there's other creeks, there's a shitload of ponds all over the place out there.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: the train tracks, they can use that as like a interstate system sort of and not thinking that.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because like the one that goes to the to the coal mine, the one specific coal mine, I won't say it's name just to kind of keep the mystery.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it will connect to the railroad tracks that eventually take you down into the Shawnee.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think exactly what I was thinking.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, because it's realistically, it's not that far of a trek, especially, especially for these things that hang out in the woods all the time anyway.
• 1:01:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was wondering if they didn't know what not.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it wouldn't take a metal off.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good observation too, to suggest that they would use the railroad as a form of transportation, because I mean, I get almost back that up.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: A skid steer with a giant mulcher head on it.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it would just literally eat all the brush all the way to the dirt, and we would make dirt paths everywhere.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Animals use the path of least resistance.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: All the time.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people will swear to you.
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You are ruining the deer hunting in this area by doing this, and I will promise you every single time.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: We would make a path like that the very next day.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were deer prints all over that all over that.
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go a bit.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Animals get curious.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: They find that path of least resistance.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that becomes, I mean, you see all the time around the woods.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, deer runs, deer runs everywhere.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so it would make perfect sense that Bigfoot would utilize something like that because it is a path of least resistance for him or like electrical path wire like ways that are kept clear out.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It makes with the history of the area or the property there, especially going back into like native American, it makes me wonder if maybe there was some sort of like
• 1:03:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: generational, like respect pack between, whatever, Sasquatch that were on the area and like the Native Americans, which kind of, you know, grew into what you have now.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, that's a definite fair question and safe assumption, because that's where I'm at where it was like, like, it was weird.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's other shit going on out there too, or then just big foot, um, but uh, she said, you know, not many families have property that's been in the family, you know, close to 150 years.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, we do.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then she said, she made this comment one
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: the land shows our family to be its stewards.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: If that makes anything cool.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, she's super intuitive like that.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, maybe, I mean, I didn't really, at the time I didn't think much of it, but then when I started thinking about it later, I was like, damn.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think there's something to it.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's something to it.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think what you said Steve probably logically makes the most sense because if we look, if we step back and we looked at it from the lens of a big foot is a creature.
• 1:04:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The creature's not going to give a fuck if that's
• 1:04:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: your property.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's it's always going to view it as this is my territory.
• 1:04:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And but the fact that it has this this form of mutual respect, there's not a lot of animals out there that do that now that have this like almost like a bartering given take type situation.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know some animals will, but there's not it's not
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's rad that you guys like you have you know she's almost built like a rapport with the big foot out there.
• 1:05:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's bizarre.
• 1:05:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they know it's a thing man.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm glad you said that instead of me.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's so weird it's like and like you know like I'll I'll talk about it with like some friends at work.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like, though the other guys like, oh, don't believe anything, bros as he believes in Bixlet, you know what I mean?
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, yeah, let's be we now.
• 1:05:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I get it all the time being the weirdo podcast guy work.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, have you ever thought about like,
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe like trying trying to gift with them like leaving maybe leaving some apples or some shit like you see that all the time on all of the the Squatch and shows, but I would just just curious if that ever crossed your mind I thought about it, but the only thing is I'm not sure where I would do it is
• 1:06:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I'm like, do I go to that field?
• 1:06:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that field right now, I think has winter week planted in it.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm pretty sure they just cut the soybeans, not maybe a month ago.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, but that is where I've had the most activity and have seen twice.
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that would be the perfect spot to do it.
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, some area out there where a tractor is not going to get it and it would still find it.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have thought about maybe doing it's on my cousin that passed away on the back deck railing like right there where I first found those prints back in 2023.
• 1:07:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's thought about
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know because there's three or four different areas on the farm where there seems to be the most activity for sure.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's another spot that I didn't have this encounter, but my brother did whenever he was out looking for dad because my step mom who doesn't really believe in any of this stuff.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But she just, you know, likes to hear us talk about it, and things like that.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: She was out.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was nighttime.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dad had been bush hogging all night or all afternoon.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he decided after he got done that he was just gonna go fishing.
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was fishing over there at my other cousin he lives on the main road that goes through there.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's on the most eastern part of the farm.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a big pond about it little over an acre-sized pond right in his backyard.
• 1:08:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was over there, fishing, and is weird because my stepmom, she was outside at their house, which is on the other end of the farm, and swore she heard dad yelling help.
• 1:08:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Coming from the woods.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now this one I don't like to talk about because I've heard that sound and the night I heard it was the night we were doing the night investigation last month on the 17th.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was weird, but like my brother, he went running out towards the woods and he was
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: never heard nothing.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: He never heard it say, help or anything.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He never heard that.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he went and got my dad's buddy that lived down the road a little ways.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And both of them were out looking for him.
• 1:09:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they ended up on the, let's see, the north woods on the farm.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were over there and they said they heard something big,
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: almost like a show of force grow the way he described it because he was like you need to talk to your dad about what I heard I go what you heard he was like yeah I was like you tell me that was like you heard it tell me and so he went ahead and told me like a couple days later because whenever I saw him it was a dollar store but it's like fun but yeah so
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That I don't like to talk about very much because.
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what do they say, something that's yelling for help is.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not a big foot, that's out there.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not a big foot.
• 1:10:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is where I lose people a lot too because they're like, Oh, yeah, we're, you've got that and big foot, you know, it's like, dude, it's a big fucking farm.
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird, too, though, because there's been UFO sightings out there for decades.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: My dad and uncle, when they were kids, they were coming home from Justin City and my grandma was driving and a cigar shaped UFO followed them from town all the way out to the farm and just
• 1:11:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: like it went like it hovered by the house and then it went on across the road and the way the way that grandma described it to Amber was it she said that it looked like it almost lowered down into the woods across but I mean if you think about direction of travel and everything it could
• 1:11:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, but I mean, I've seen things out there that I can't explain in the sky.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: The night we did that investigation on the 17th, we saw a bunch like Jason had this this green laser that you can like shoot up into the sky and it's like super powerful.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That show skinwalker ranch like how they shoot those lasers up there.
• 1:12:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a smaller version of that.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, he shot that up in there and clicked it for like, you know, few long pauses and then, you know, doing that.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't too long after that.
• 1:12:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: We started noticing a bunch of red orbs in the sky.
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was weird because I was like, did don't tell me you just
• 1:12:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was like, don't fucking tell me and we're just watching them right and it's weird because they're like kind of moving and then they would like phase out and then they'd phase back in and it would do that I mean in my dad was right there with us watching it.
• 1:12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was just weird because it was kind of a cloudy night that night, but then whenever these things showed up, the clouds kind of just started to go away for a good 45 minutes.
• 1:13:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're watching this.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's just weird because it's just like, why are they phasing in and phasing out and why does it look like they're kind of going, you know, back and forth a little bit too.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jason was was looking with his, I think it was the night vision.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, I can still see him whenever it looks like they're facing out to the naked eyes.
• 1:13:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I can still see him.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, they're still there.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, okay, cool.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Joe texted me about three days after that.
• 1:13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this, this is this whenever you told me this dude, this like I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:13:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He told me that whenever he ran the footage
• 1:13:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: like a good look at what was going on that he saw a big pyramid shaped UFO and all those lights was one thing oh shit yeah that's what I said I was like oh hell okay okay um great so I'm thinking pyramid UFO okay well not that long ago there was a pyramid UFO sighted
• 1:14:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's there's been a few.
• 1:14:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's just there's been one in like watching to DC.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, like, do you know about what time that was whenever that was cited like was it last month?
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's it's been a while ago.
• 1:14:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: The DC ones been a minute.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:14:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I mean, that was weird because like I didn't see a pyramid, that's what he said showed up on film after running running some different filters over the image right I saw was just the red ors, you know, and I mean, it's just it's it's an interesting area out there like I that's that's about the best way I can put it, man, because I mean shit, you know, like,
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen ghosts out there and the funny thing about that is so after my great uncle and my great grandmother passed away, back in 06, my grandparents asked me to move into that house on that side of the farm that way somebody was over there to keep an eye on things because that's where all the equipment was and I was like, yes, you're no problem.
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And let's see, the first thing I noticed ghost wise was I was sitting I was working really weird shifts at my job and it was like you would do like two midnight shifts on like say Wednesday night and Thursday night for your Thursday Friday.
• 1:16:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I would work to 12 hour shifts on the weekend like 10 30 in the morning to 10 30 at night.
• 1:16:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was fucking with me.
• 1:16:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sitting there.
• 1:16:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of doing with some insomnia and I was staying up all night and then sleeping during the day.
• 1:16:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was sitting in the living room.
• 1:16:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching the movie Hot Rod with Andy Sandberg.
• 1:16:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I distinctively remember hearing footsteps go from my uncle Larry's bedroom, which was my bedroom at this point in time and it was going clear over to the kitchen and then back And I heard that I was like, what?
• 1:16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm like, I'm looking in like I hear the footsteps.
• 1:16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I should see a person walking and there's nobody there because I'm the only person in the fucking house
• 1:17:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, okay, this is creepy.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mentioned something to my dad about it the next day.
• 1:17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was just like, yeah.
• 1:17:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, we didn't even hear it.
• 1:17:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, well, Uncle Monkoleary, he died on Thanksgiving in, oh, five.
• 1:17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was.
• 1:17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Granny, she died, spring of those six, I'm pretty sure it was.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Larry was all gone, but Granny was still there.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he was sitting overnight with her.
• 1:17:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of keeping an eye on her and everything because we would have during the day at home health care kind of thing.
• 1:17:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: but at night, dad did all the work.
• 1:17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he heard that, too.
• 1:17:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what he told me is that whenever Uncle Larry was still alive, that around 2, 2, 30 in the morning, every night, he would get up, go to the kitchen, make himself a little glass of milk, drink it, and then go back to bed.
• 1:18:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he also told me to watch the
• 1:18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: the back door from the kitchen going to the pantry because he's seen that open up before and he said that you know Larry used to go in the middle of the night he would go in there and go into the pantry and start counting all the different cans.
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like okay because Uncle Larry handed up passing away a brain cancer from the
• 1:18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was pretty wild because I distinctively remember a couple of times seeing that door going from the kitchen to the pantry because you got to be careful because there's also back steps going down there, so you could like fall and bust your ass, McDonald.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, I remember seeing that open to and that was weird.
• 1:19:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just been really really weird out there and.
• 1:19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know we've been going for like an hour and 18 minutes.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much time you guys got, but I would like to mention one more thing that we talked about earlier, the whole thing that kind of kicked off, paranormal, and general in my life, and you guys are tied into it.
• 1:19:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: a few years ago whenever you guys posted a picture you guys did your episode about the hat man and you posted your picture this picture of this African American family that that there was this elderly lady in there and the hat man was standing behind her with his hand on it on her shoulder dude when I saw that
• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: That, why it just freaked me the fuck out because I'm like, whoa, I've seen that, you know, and I mean, it's just like bam, like my first ever sleepover and I see the fucking hat man.
• 1:20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it was so crazy.
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was me and my friend Thomas Rye.
• 1:20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were in here in Illinois.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where we grew up at and he lived like three doors down from me and
• 1:20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had a satellite dish, you know, so like, of course, I wanted to go stay the night of his house.
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could get sci-fi channel, man, because it was like one giant ones in backyard, you know, they turned it.
• 1:20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was so cool.
• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was raining that night, storming really good, actually.
• 1:20:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was so weird, man, because like we saw like he had a
• 1:20:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: his living room.
• 1:20:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: His house set back a little bit from the house that was right next to it.
• 1:21:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like his living room window, we could look out and we could see like the steps going up and leading to the front door of the house next to us.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we were sitting there watching TV, it was storming and
• 1:21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: like just big flash a lightning and he goes hey man somebody's over there trying to get into wherever the people's names where I can't remember anymore but trying to get in their house I was like what we look over and there's just like this figure standing like right in front of the front door of the house just looking like it wants to go in but it's just standing there right
• 1:21:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's right there at the window looking at us.
• 1:21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: nope.
• 1:21:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was so fucking weird man because this thing number one I never did see its eyes and like every time you hear about the hat man you always hear about glowing eyes and shit I didn't see that.
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: What I saw was a complete black silhouette wearing like the outline of it looked like it had a trench coat with like its collar flipped up and it had a fedora hat on.
• 1:22:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really weird.
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like the rain, whenever the rain was coming down, it almost looked like the rain was like bouncing off of it before it ever hit it.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's weird.
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 1:22:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very weird.
• 1:22:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we see it.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: We hurry up and run around to like the way the way it was, like you had the window right there, which would have been the north side of the house.
• 1:22:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: the couch that we were sitting on facing the TV was facing like we were looking dead right to see it.
• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we like went and hit around the other end of the couch from here right because you know that's what you do when you're nine years old.
• 1:23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
• 1:23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
• 1:23:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
• 1:23:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, can't see us anymore.
• 1:23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we hear his front porch door open.
• 1:23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We see it looking through because like his parents front door.
• 1:23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They had their front porch.
• 1:23:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a completely like closed in front porch.
• 1:23:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, I don't know, three or four steps, and then you're at the front door.
• 1:23:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his front door was one of those old ones that had like the like three rectangles, like windows in it, you know, and it was looking like right.
• 1:23:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just standing
• 1:23:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, oh dude, like, it's giving me chills just remembering this so that's happening.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We go run back around the couch the other way and we're trying to hide from it, but like the whole time, man, like, I mean, now I know what is an anxiety attack, but back then, I didn't know what that was, but you know, like you have an anxiety attack like your heart's racing and like super anxious feeling and everything, like scared death kind of deal.
• 1:24:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we were feeling.
• 1:24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've talked to some people about it.
• 1:24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I've been on some other shows talking about that because before I saw Bigfoot that was like my big story of any kind of paranormal activity I had, really.
• 1:24:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people say that maybe the reason that it was doing that was because it was like feeding off of our fear.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I could have been with definitely scared shitless because it it almost seems like it didn't notice you until you noticed it yeah, it knew that it was caught trying to get into the neighbor's house and then it's like, all right, we're going to we're going to transfer our focus over here.
• 1:25:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I mean, it was there.
• 1:25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I don't know the whole thing may have only been.
• 1:25:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: five, 10 minutes at the most, but dude, it felt like hours.
• 1:25:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I bet with that amount of fear running through your hell.
• 1:25:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I probably feel like it was all night thing.
• 1:25:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like so then like the next morning, we told his parents what happened and everything and the mom just kind of brushed it off.
• 1:25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the dad, he just kind of had this like look on his face like he knew what we were talking about.
• 1:25:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so like he went out, walked around and everything, walked down their driveway because their driveway was in between the two houses and he said, he found a strange looking heel print.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like something was standing there, but I never saw it, so I couldn't really tell you that's just what he said.
• 1:26:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird because I mean, it had to have been physical because it opened the door the porch door.
• 1:26:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there had to be some kind of physicality to it, unless it's fucking Patrick Swazzy from ghost kicking can.
• 1:26:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know what.
• 1:26:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we solved it.
• 1:26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We solved it.
• 1:26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
• 1:26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't, you didn't see any kind of facial features.
• 1:26:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it did.
• 1:26:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was straight black, pitch black.
• 1:26:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, almost.
• 1:26:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, honestly, like, if you look at that picture that you guys posted again, that's what it looked like, just the collar on the jacket was flipped up.
• 1:26:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That kind of was a more detective or something, you know?
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what makes me think of as an old detective.
• 1:26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my ex wife had seen it pretty much her entire, like, younger life.
• 1:27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that was, like, I had, I had heard about it, but I didn't, like,
• 1:27:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Realize that it was a paranormal like a global paranormal phenomena until later on and then I was like holy shit like people it's crazy to me that there's a phenomenon that people are experiencing exactly the same way across Everywhere you know Dude, I've got a theory on like because like Steve mean you're the same age.
• 1:27:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure like I'm 40 or you 40 or just about 40 Yeah, yeah
• 1:27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling, like, I was talking with a few of my friends about this, like, think about the shows we watched as kids, like, you've got, like, you know, are you afraid of the dark, eerie Indiana, you've got goose bumps, you've got tells from the crib, all that stuff, right?
• 1:28:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Almost like we were being prepared to run into situations like that whenever we were
• 1:28:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: like a pre-programming kind of thing.
• 1:28:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just isn't just an idea, but it really like the more and more I think about it and the more I've experienced this like shit.
• 1:28:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, might be on to something.
• 1:28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it like stuff like that is kind of almost like the more we dig into it and the more we learn about it, the more you look back at that stuff is almost like that's kind of like soft disclosure going on there and with unsolved mysteries and in search of and all all of that stuff that like we used to be glued to ex files and
• 1:28:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, I mean, that guy that made that show, he had to have been on the inside on some information.
• 1:28:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Oh, dude.
• 1:29:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even the guy from the Simpsons.
• 1:29:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, okay.
• 1:29:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Down.
• 1:29:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Broding's a fucking time traveler.
• 1:29:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what was it?
• 1:29:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: The pilot episode of the Lone Gunman was about the World Trade Center getting attacked?
• 1:29:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: maybe a year later it actually happened.
• 1:29:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it's bonkers.
• 1:29:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll blow some guys.
• 1:29:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: The way they did on the show.
• 1:29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
• 1:29:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably get ready to wrap her up there.
• 1:29:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that area sounds amazing.
• 1:29:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:29:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a pleasure coming awesome.
• 1:29:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude, like like I said, I've been listening to you guys for years.
• 1:29:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it was like late 2020 when I started checking you guys out.
• 1:29:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I knew I heard you guys were from selling online.
• 1:29:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, fuck yeah, I'm going to support those guys.
• 1:29:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 1:30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, by favorite episode like of your earlier episodes that you guys did, I really enjoyed the one about the watcher of that house in New Jersey, but there was this one episode you guys did that had to deal with this like tunnel.
• 1:30:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I think it was construction workers or something and like they would go down like one guy would go down and before he could get through to the other side, people were already saying they saw him on the other side coming out and everything.
• 1:30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a. Freaky.
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sound like England, I think.
• 1:30:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I need to go back and revisit some of those episodes.
• 1:30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We might might be cool to like go back and retouch.
• 1:30:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, that was a good one man.
• 1:30:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, I love all of them.
• 1:30:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like that was one of my favorite ones because it was just like that's one of those things that you just don't hear a lot about.
• 1:31:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, whatever you guys did that it was like, Oh, shit.
• 1:31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
• 1:31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 1:31:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude, you have to keep us updated if anything else wild goes on or it sounds like a hot spot.
• 1:31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know, work it out with your like your guys as one schedule's and stuff.
• 1:31:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys more welcome to come out.
• 1:31:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll show you around see if we can't find anything.
• 1:31:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that'd be awesome.
• 1:31:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I will.
• 1:31:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what to get it right now?
• 1:31:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: But thanks for hanging out with us.
• 1:31:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that bearing your stories with us in the holocaust.
• 1:31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't cry.
• 1:31:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Heck yeah.
• 1:31:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, on that note, holocaust.
• 1:31:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for hanging out with us this Monday.
• 1:31:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hope everybody's having a good work week.
• 1:31:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, check us out on our social media.
• 1:31:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.
• 1:31:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Until we meet again, remember to stay safe, stay weird.
• 1:32:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you got a squatty area, shoot us an email, we'll talk about it, we'll compare notes here.
• 1:32:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, thanks, Bryce, for taking the time to come in and hang out with us.
• 1:32:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, it's my pleasure, I really enjoyed it.
• 1:32:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Our pleasure as well.