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WS pitching plans, Bo’s position, Giants officially hire Tony Vitello · Foul Territory

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: There he is into the World Series, right, Yeah, well,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: we have a lot to catch up on. We do
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: have a lot to catch up on. And also there's
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  Speaker 1: breaking news basically as we're starting here about Tonyo Btello,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get to in like twenty minutes or so.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do World Series first. We've covered that story
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and we'll definitely get Kip's perspective there. Before
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  Speaker 1: we charge Kip, we're gonna talk more. I guess we
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: could do it within the opening segment. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Boba Schett and how you try and welcome
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  Speaker 1: someone back like that, and then we'll go over the
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  Speaker 1: pitching pairing to start the series for the Dodgers. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, let's just charge and then we'll put Kip
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  Speaker 1: on the hot seat, right charge about all right, so
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  Speaker 1: we know that the Dodgers are rolling out the same
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  Speaker 1: one too to start the World Series, just like the
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  Speaker 1: n I'll see because you know that worked out pretty
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  Speaker 1: well for them to Kip. So it's Blake's Snell in
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  Speaker 1: game one and it's Yamamoto in game two. First off,
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on what they're rolling out from a starting
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  Speaker 1: rotation perspective and how you would try and crack that
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  Speaker 1: mess it up and not look like the Brewers did. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hope Toronto welcomes Bo Bashad back better than
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  Speaker 2: you guys welcome me back. Just throwing me right into
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  Speaker 2: the fire, just right into the deep end, immediately, hold on.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, before we get into the pitching.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you the question then, because because I said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if you can welcome Bo back,
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  Speaker 4: not that I don't like Boba shit, But then some
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  Speaker 4: fans on the comments were like, just put him at
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  Speaker 4: second He's never played second base?
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  Speaker 3: How hard is that transition before we even dig into
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  Speaker 3: the pitcher.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, that would be an uncomfortable transition for anybody to
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  Speaker 2: switch positions, especially in that big of a stage. It's easier,
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  Speaker 2: I guess going from just one side of the infield
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  Speaker 2: to the other. I think he's still a good defender
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  Speaker 2: enough to where now he's just given more Timebviously, second
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  Speaker 2: base is going to be the easier position than the
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  Speaker 2: short stop short to throw more time to get the
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  Speaker 2: guy out. So I wouldn't doubt that he could make
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  Speaker 2: the transition, But uh, it's not the ideal situation, and
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  Speaker 2: I do welcome him back, maybe a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: than you do AJ, just because I think, uh, what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what do we mean by welcoming back? Like
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  Speaker 2: he's one of the better players. He's in You're already
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  Speaker 2: probably the underdog in this series, and he's an X
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  Speaker 2: factor that can probably give you more on the offensive
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  Speaker 2: side if it clicks right away obviously a big if,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe what you've been getting from those middle infield positions.
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  Speaker 2: So I think you're going for it if you welcome
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  Speaker 2: him back.
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  Speaker 5: I think I.
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  Speaker 1: Think the key here that we've been discussing is George Springer.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the comments to what we bring up
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  Speaker 1: have to do with the obvious or according to fans,
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  Speaker 1: Springer in the outfield, Barger to third earning Clement to
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  Speaker 1: second KF to the bench, that is definitely their best
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  Speaker 1: offensive setup if you're bringing Bo back. But wait, George
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  Speaker 1: Springer rates as a poor defender. He innings wise, I
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: added it up. I think it was about forty eight
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  Speaker 1: games worth if you're going you know about his total
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  Speaker 1: innings divided by nine, and most of that was in
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  Speaker 1: right field. And I think a lot of Springer playing
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  Speaker 1: well this year, especially down the stretch, had to do
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  Speaker 1: with him not playing in the outfield. Okay, even with
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  Speaker 1: all of that being said, Kip, I'd still throw him
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  Speaker 1: out there if I'm getting a big offensive boost. But wait,
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  Speaker 1: Springer got clocked in the knee and obviously the biggest
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  Speaker 1: swing in you know, the century here for the Toronto
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays, But that doesn't mean that he can man
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  Speaker 1: the outfield. Pretty big difference between that and what he
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  Speaker 1: can do at the plate.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, But at the same time, like think about I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going off my own which is now we're coming
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  Speaker 2: up on almost a decade ago. But like we put
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  Speaker 2: Carlos Santana normal first basement out and left field. This
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  Speaker 2: is when alnl and pitchers were still hitting and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. So it's like, if it's an offensive boost,
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  Speaker 2: which you're gonna need versus this Dodger team to keep
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  Speaker 2: up with them their run scored, I think he gotta
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  Speaker 2: just throw them out there. And as far as his
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: knee will be fine, AJ canntestas too.
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  Speaker 5: You'll have enough. It's a World Series.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have enough adrenaline and enough doctors on hand,
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  Speaker 2: enough stuff to get you through whatever game you need
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  Speaker 2: to and feel great for the game.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm not really worried about the knee.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so spring in the outfield, bo Dh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's still a chance that bo plays shortstop, and he.
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  Speaker 3: Know, it's just it's just, you know, Kip.
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  Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen, when Kyle Schwarber came back for the
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  Speaker 4: Cubs and he had missed all year with his you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a different situation for me because Schwarber was never
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  Speaker 4: really going to play defense. He was only there to hit,
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  Speaker 4: and he'd been getting at bats for a while and
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  Speaker 4: the down in Arizona, and I know it's not the
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  Speaker 4: big leagues, but when he got thrown back in there,
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  Speaker 4: he had been doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Boba Shd has not as far as I know. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he's getting a bat here and there, like in sim games,
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  Speaker 3: but he's not getting like.
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  Speaker 4: Actual game reps at shortstop. He's not getting game rep
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  Speaker 4: at bats. It's a different thing. It's just hard to
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  Speaker 4: come back for him.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you if you, if you don't start him,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't put him in right away, I don't
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  Speaker 2: see how he should really I'm in at all, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's what AJ is trying to say
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  Speaker 2: a little bit unless you have a bats because you're
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  Speaker 2: not just going to give him. He's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be a late pinch hit. You're not going to use
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  Speaker 2: him as a late pinch hit in a big situation
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  Speaker 2: when the guy hasn't seen live pitching or hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: doing that. So if you're not going to use him then,
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  Speaker 2: and if you don't start him at the beginning, then
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  Speaker 2: where is he going to come in? So I think you,
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  Speaker 2: I think you start maybe game one, game two. It's
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  Speaker 2: and listen, you're you're going against an elite pitching staff too.
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  Speaker 2: If these are your first at bats back, good luck.
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  Speaker 2: But it's it's hard, but anything goes and anything can happen.
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  Speaker 5: It's just I.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not getting anything maybe from I KF or
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  Speaker 2: whoever has been there or something, I'm just going off
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  Speaker 2: of what they've been doing. Then it's like you don't
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  Speaker 2: really have much to lose. And you tried it early
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  Speaker 2: and then you can switch later switch the second half.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to read you have to you're
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  Speaker 4: down a couple of games. This isn't right, that's what
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  Speaker 4: do you have to lose? You just have this thing
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  Speaker 4: called the World Series to lose.
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  Speaker 2: Kid, Yeah, and I, but I also don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be there if you're down with say you're down three
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  Speaker 2: to zero and then you finally put him in and
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: he has a big game, and you're like, well, we
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  Speaker 2: should have done this much earlier. So I'd rather know
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  Speaker 2: ahead of time or as early as possible, what we
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  Speaker 2: have in him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess fair, And I.
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  Speaker 1: Know Barger can play third man. He's played really well infield.
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  Speaker 1: He's had a great I mean that defensive outfield for
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays has been really good.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that I would want to mess with that.
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  Speaker 4: And Jim and az An Ikf in the middle are
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  Speaker 4: really good too. Yeah, as we get the Ikf whenever
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  Speaker 4: they turned the double play, does the.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fly ball percentage is, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's sky high. I mean, the Dodgers are
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  Speaker 1: a top three home run hitting team, Like you want
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  Speaker 1: the outfield tight. But anyway, let's go over a couple
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: other notes from the series. Mike Petriello putting out some statistics.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: I thought this one was interesting, And Mike's a big
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  Speaker 1: proponent of slug over contact. That's a little precursor here,
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  Speaker 1: but he does do really good research on topics like this,
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  Speaker 1: where he said the Jays offense has the fourth highest
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  Speaker 1: October slugging percentage since nine teen sixty nine. So as
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  Speaker 1: much as they make contact, they are also making very
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  Speaker 1: good contact. It's damage contact. They're going against Dodgers pitching,
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  Speaker 1: which has the second lowest October slug in percentage allowed
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  Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty nine. He said, forget small bombss. This
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  Speaker 1: series is going to come down to whether Toronto bats
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  Speaker 1: keeps slugging versus an elite LA rotation. I mean, that's cool,
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  Speaker 1: that's historical information to point out how good the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: have been preventing damage and how the Blue Jays starters right,
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  Speaker 1: especially their starters. But I think it's underrated. Like we
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  Speaker 1: look at the Blue Jays like it. They're not just hitting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they have singles, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: doubles and homers in there too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there are more facing the Dodgers pitching either, right,
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  Speaker 4: So starters the facing.
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  Speaker 3: Snell Yamamoto.
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  Speaker 4: Show, Hey, Glass now they don't give up damage a lot,
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  Speaker 4: and Snow we already talked about dominated them earlier this year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean Glass now dominated them. He didn't get a decision,
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  Speaker 4: but dominated them, y'all. Moto hasn't seen them, so it's
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  Speaker 4: a little different, you know, show he hasn't seen him
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  Speaker 4: in a few years. But it's a different thing. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 4: we talked about this yesterday. Can the can the Blue
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  Speaker 4: Jays starters match the Dodger starters and to make it
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  Speaker 4: a battle of the bullpen because both bullpens aren't terrific,
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  Speaker 4: And then can the lefties of the dog of the
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  Speaker 4: of the Jays who didn't get to pitch a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot against the Mariners because they're so right hand dominant,
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  Speaker 4: little and flew hardy and if they use lour come
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  Speaker 4: in and the gate show, Hey, Munsey and Freddy, that's
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  Speaker 4: where it's gonna That's kind of the margins you're looking
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  Speaker 4: for if you're the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the thing also is, Kip, you need a
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  Speaker 1: starter to be off right, like those guys are amazing.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to do that every single start. Y'amamoto
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  Speaker 1: had a blit, not the last start to start before
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  Speaker 1: right the Reds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, against the Phillies.
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  Speaker 1: Against the Phillies, yeah, yeah, Reds. He had the first
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  Speaker 1: inning issue was more tasker and its fault and then
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies got to him a little bit. So you
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  Speaker 1: need one of those where it's like, eh, command's not
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  Speaker 1: as sharp or he's missing a pitch right now, and
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  Speaker 1: then they capitalize.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you need them to be off.
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  Speaker 2: But again, this starting rotation is that good at keeping
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  Speaker 2: down the slug and you kind of have to force
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  Speaker 2: your way to make them off a little bit. You
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: got to take your singles, you got to create a
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  Speaker 2: little havoc on the bass pass, you got to find listen.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Is this kind of I say this a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about like whether the Yankees have done where they kind
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  Speaker 2: of live and die too much by the home run
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  Speaker 2: ball at times, and you just don't want it all
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  Speaker 2: to come down to whether Vladdy hits a home run
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  Speaker 2: or Springer hits a home run. You got to create
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  Speaker 2: runs in another way and force that pressure. Because if
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  Speaker 2: it's coming down and just home runs, this pitching staff
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  Speaker 2: does such a good job at eliminating that. So they
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  Speaker 2: throw too hard and their stuff's too nasty, So you
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  Speaker 2: really got to find other ways to score sometimes and
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  Speaker 2: not just count on the long ball.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we got a super chat here from Music to
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  Speaker 1: My Ears, Shane Bieber has three pitches which could be
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  Speaker 1: affected against the Dodgers, but not where he places them
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  Speaker 1: curve slider and change ups start low and low seventy
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  Speaker 1: percent of the time, or not swinging at low pitches.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: A Dodger fan here commenting on Shane Bieber's game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's a long ways away. But yeah, listen, one
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  Speaker 4: thing about the Dodgers. They don't chase a whole lot.
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: You have to try to get him out on the
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  Speaker 4: strike zone or strike the ball, and they do a
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  Speaker 4: good job eliminating a lot of different pitches. And that's
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: going to be another thing, Like with even with Gosman,
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  Speaker 4: how will they handle that split that he throws right
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  Speaker 4: Game two? You savage with the split we saw the
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: Marriers made an adjustment and kind of laid off of that.
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  Speaker 3: They got better as they saw him, especially the second
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  Speaker 3: time he saw him, right.
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  Speaker 4: So can they Can the Dodgers do this for the
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  Speaker 4: first time they see a lot of these Dodgers have
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: seen Kevin Gosman a lot because he's been around for
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: so long. So but they Yeah, the Dodgers are really
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  Speaker 4: good at this, and the Blue Jays are blue Jays
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  Speaker 4: are good at it.
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  Speaker 3: The differences between the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 4: When the Dodgers do it, it seems like they build
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  Speaker 4: pitch counts up. The Blue Jays do it by swinging
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  Speaker 4: earlier in the count and not getting to two strikes
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times, and that's why their contact rate
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  Speaker 4: is higher.
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  Speaker 1: I think you got to keep with that or don't
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: let those guys get ahead, right they're going to fill
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  Speaker 1: up the zone, then go for it. And if it
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out one of the games and a pitch
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  Speaker 1: counts that nothing and the guy deals with the complete game,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: oh well, you know, out of the next all and
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Mike Petrello put out this tweet on mookie bets.
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  Speaker 1: be made of bets three oh six, three fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: five ten slash line off. Kevin Gosman that was all
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  Speaker 1: was the slash in thirty nine plate appearances from twenty
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  Speaker 1: oh for fourteen against Kevin Gosman. That's a great call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good call. That's a completely different
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman.
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  Speaker 4: Back then, it was a different guy. I faced Kevin
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  Speaker 4: Gosman back then. It was a lot different than what
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  Speaker 4: he now.
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  Speaker 1: pictures evolve. I do think that's helpful. Sometimes that does happen,
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  Speaker 1: have numbers were okay.
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  Speaker 3: And it doesn't even matter, and sometimes it doesn't matter.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, Holop Corner breaking news.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: It happened.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Tennessee head coach Tony Vaytello is now going to be
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the manager of the San Francisco Giants. Jacob Rudner from
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Baseball America talking about how this is a landmark move
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: and he's the first manager to be hired directly from
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the college ranks with no pro experience. Before we dive
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: into this, I just want to let everyone know Baseball
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: America Hotchiet we covered this, so you can go over
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: there later and check out more clips on the topic.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: We also did a story with Susan Slusser a YouTube
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: clip yesterday, and there was another conversation that we had.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: But let's keep it going. I'll add one more new
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: bit of news from Bob Nightingale. He said he's going
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: to take a pay cut.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Three point three mil salary and benefits is what he
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: was currently making at Tennessee. Bob said, don't forget Bob
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Melvin is still on contract for twenty twenty six at
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: four million dollars. I don't really care. I mean, that's
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: pretty common where. But he's just pointing out that, at
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: least according to his sources, Tony Vitelo will make less
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: per season to start here with San.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Francisco play pro ball.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, he did not.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: He has no pro experience at all.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like not even like I could like, at least
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Murph played a little bit, you know, a Murph coach
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: for a while, and he went from you know, then
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: he was a bench coach before you know, he did
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: a bunch of things in the minor leagues, managed in
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: the minor leagues and stuff before he got a job.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: But to go right from college to the big leagues, man,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know care if you're gonna have talk on this.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't go to college. But you don't have to
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: run a spring training in college. You can't threaten kids
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: with today if you don't, if you don't do what
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I say, I'll make you transfer and take your scholarship.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: There's none of that. You get what you get in college.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: You get to pick the players. Man.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: You get to say I'm recruiting you, and I'm recruiting you,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: and I'm recruiting you. In the big leagues, they just say,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: here's your team, go play with them.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And it's short term too. In college, I mean in
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the big league sometimes you might have a guy for
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: ten years. You got to be really careful about how
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you manage relationships. All right, So enough from us. Kip
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: played college ball and you actually played for Pat Murphy,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: who did not do this a direct route. Brewers manager
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: spent plenty of time in the big league bench coach
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a whole deal. But anyway, give us the context of
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: how you think this is going to play out.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to play out. It's going to
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: play out well. But it's because the same way for Murf.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Murph is a players manager. He is someone who gets
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the team together. You want to play hard for him.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: People guys like playing for Murph. I think that's a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: big thing here that I've seen with Matello is it
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: looks like guys like playing for him. He's going to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: have his bumps and bruises on how to run the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: big league team compared to a college team. Obviously, but
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: this kind of strikes me as and I want to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: get both yours.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Thoughts on this right back to you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Is this a he checks the box of players want
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to play for him like a murph. But this is
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: also where a new guy with no grounds or no
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: pillars to stand on can kind of be just a
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: yes man for the front office to make the lineups
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff too.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's who we don't know. The most fascinating thing
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: to me is like a.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Little bit to me, And I don't want to discredit
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Ptello before he's even started or anything like that, or
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: saying that he can't make his own moves. But it's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: like you see a lot of front offices and kind
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of where the old school where the manager makes all
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the decisions just isn't isn't around as much.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Well, you go for making all the decisions to making
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: almost no decisions, right is from a college to a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: big league manager. I'm not saying you don't make any decisions,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: but they're they're limited.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But it'll still be a players guy that that enjoys
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it and looks like he's had success wherever he's gone
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and looks like guys would like to play for him.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So when you can check that box, front office sees
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that and then they can just do the other stuff
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: that they want to do.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: The hiring makes sense.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that can only take you so far being
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: being a nice guy. I mean, come on, I played
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: for you played for nice guys. I played for nice guys,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: guys you want to play for. Robin Ventura was the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: nicest guy in the world, and you want to play
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: for him. But he wasn't a great manager like that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: That's to me is you have to have that Joe
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Madden people love playing for some people hated playing for
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Joe Madden, but he got the most out of people
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: and he knew how to do that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: This guy, I like having a guy with He has
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: managerial experience, whether it's is at the college levels, so
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you're is gonna have to see the nuances of the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: game and how different it is from the big leagues
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to the college game. But I do like someone with
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: managerial experience over maybe say a former player to start
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: right away.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: My two cents, The biggest thing is who's he gonna hire.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Who's he gonna hire as a coach. That's a huge thing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I've got to have veteran coaches, right He's guys, have
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: a veteran bench coach, veteran pitching coaches, Guys that have
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: been around.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Because if he just goes out and says, oh, I'm.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Just gonna bring my Tennessee staff over here, and they're like, hey,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: spring training starts next week.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: What's the plan.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, just scrimmage every day like they do in college.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Like that's not how it works exactly, you know, like
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: that's where it's gonna be. How do I run a bullpen?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: You know, in the big leagues you have twenty six guys.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: In college you have well, it used to be like
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: forty guys. Now it's not a thirty six inning. Yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: so many more options. You know, guys only pitch once
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a week. Who do I set up here and there?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not I don't have to recruit guy. I don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: know it's gonna It's fascinating to me. This is a
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: fascinating hire, good or bad, however it works out.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Here's the one thing where I disagree with people that say,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: why would he lead there? I mean, he's a coach
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: slash manager. Just because he's doing this successfully at Tennessee
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: for years doesn't mean that he doesn't have goals of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: being a big league manager and winning a World Series.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: How many kids grow up and say I want to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: win a World Series versus how many kids grow up
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and say I want to win a college World Series.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You always start with World Series. So I don't want
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to discount that part, Kip. I mean, is he taking
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a pay cut? Maybe probably right according to the report,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but he might have gotten more than three years, so
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: there's still some security there. And he spent eight seasons
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: already at Tennessee. He's won there, like you kind of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: accomplished it all. You have to deal with more of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the nil crap now, which a lot of college coaches
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that have a lot of power get pissed about. So
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it makes sense to me. You get to be under
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Buster Posey, who is a very different front office exec
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: from most of the others. And he played and he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: has a lot of respect for the college game. He
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: loved his time at FSU. So to me, it all
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: adds up. It makes sense. And here's the cherry on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: top for me, Ki Tony Vytello is going to be
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: known forever as the guy that did this, and if
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: he does this successfully, he will pave the way for
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: others to do this and will be a pioneer. That's cool.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That's a legacy building moment.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't question at all why he's doing it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I completely understand his side. I comp it is such
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: a big jump, and like you said, the personal goals
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and aspirations and you want to be a World Series
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: manager and you want to be a major league manager.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: The guy's taking a pay cut to do it. That
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: is absolutely The goal is to get to the big
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: leagues in any aspect of the sport. So no, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: don't question why Vitel's doing it. And there will be
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the entire rest of the league will be watching how
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: this plays out to see if it can work or not,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and then that'll open up the floodgates to more college
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: coaches maybe doing it down the road if this works out.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Let's take you through the arena club slab pack experience.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: This is part two because Todd Father last week pulled
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a card that he didn't love, yet he sold it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: back for actually more than what the slab pack cost.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: This time pulls a card that he likes.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and this is the best part of it. Ronnie
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Mauricio and Me's stand out, you know, rookie sensation. He's
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: been absolutely phenomenal. I like the itch of seeing what
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: you're gonna get, you know, I like prospects I don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: love them, but seeing this kind of card is actually
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: absolutely beautiful thing. I know a couple people around town
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: that would absolutely love that card. So there's gonna be
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: a lot of conversations going on here for Arena Club.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And what you do is you have it in your
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: digital showroom. If you want to hand it out locally,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: then cool. You ask Arena Club to send it to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you and they do, or you can sell it back
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: like you see there instant offer for one hundred and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: ninety three bucks. But he's keeping it, And you can
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: do what Todd father does by going to Arena club
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: dot com slash foul and getting twenty percent off your
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: first card purchase or your first slab pack purchase. What
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: do you think is going to be the toughest thing
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: for him at the jump? Like Lancelyn's on this show
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes and I heard him the other day on the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: radio say that the speech in spring training for him
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: actually matters more than most because it's different and you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: just want to hear what he has to say and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: just the way that he's perceived right from the jump
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in spring training, like, hey, let's give this guy a chance.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He has had a lot of success. Do you think
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that you know something in spring training really matters, Like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: what's the moment where it's going to be like, Okay,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he's got these guys.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I think he's going to be good at that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be more comes down to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: what AJ was saying, more about running a bullpen, running
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: an organization, almost a big league team for the first time,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: rather than a college team. I think the differences of those,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I think is what it's going to come down to.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think he'll get the room behind him and with
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: a good speech, and he'll have the respect of the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: guys by it before the season starts. But it'll be
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: interested to see maybe in that first month, let's say
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: April comes around, and you see maybe make a couple
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: wrong moves or put in the wrong guys, or start
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: different players that aren't supposed to be starting. It's like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: that's when you'll start to question it. But going into it,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I think he'll be He'll be fine with getting the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: team behind him.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I just I think it starts now. The minute he's hired.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: He's gonna start having to reach out to guys. I
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: feel like he's gonna start reaching out to Logan Web
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and Raffie Devers and Williadomas and getting getting them on
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: his side. You know, I mentioned Robin Ventura before. One
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: of the things I think where Robin messed up is
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: my I was there his first year. He didn't call
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: anybody in the offseason because he's like, oh, I didn't
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: want to see act people like I was playing favorites
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: or anything. I'm like, dude, you should have reached out
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: to me and Canerko and some of the veteran guys
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: that had been around for a while to like see
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: what we're thinking and what we like and this and that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: He's like, well, I wanted to go into spring training
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: with a clean slate, Like no, like go into it
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: and say, hey, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna call Raffie Devers.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call Logan web I'm gonna call Willia Damas.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call Matt Chapman, I'm gonna call Patrick Bailey.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call these guys that I know I'm gonna
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: be counting on and get and get their feelings and
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: what they what they need from me as a manager,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and then go from there.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You know, the first thing I'm doing if I'm him
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: once I sign, after I get acclimated with the team
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and the organization, flying to the dr and having lunch
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: with Ruffia.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, get to know those guys.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, dude, you're a big guy. I saw what they
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: did to you in Boston. Not my vibe. I'm a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: player's guy. I know what this means. Even though I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: didn't play, I think they did it wrong. And play
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to what.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: He wants, right, That's what I'm saying.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: How hard is that team will fly you there and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: take them out to lunch.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: That'll go a long way with your relationship with your team.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Doing just even a phone call like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay, cool, Well, it'll be exciting, fun storyline to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: watch this giant fessturassing. The Giants have become relevant. They
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: were even this year they were five hundred, but they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: are more relevant now. They were kind of stuck in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the mud in my mind for several years after that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. It's like, eh, and I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Buster Posey has made this Is.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: This gonna be more of a Bruce Bochie higher or
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: a Gabe caplor.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Hire you'll find out, or a little bit in between,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: but attendance was up big in San Francisco. I give
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: credit to Buster Posey for bringing in stars that people
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: actually want to watch and they can buy some jerseys.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Hey render to everyone. The Playmaker's Classic is happening on Tuesday,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: February eighteenth, twenty twenty six. Four hundred plus packed the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: event last year, including one hundred current Big leaguer's, former pros,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and future stars. This is an opportunity to be close
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to those players and also, as Will Benson brought up
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the other day and he'll be there, you get to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: talk to players about whatever's going on in your world,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: including any charity initiatives that you have. So I think
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's a really cool opportunity to, you know, be around
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: people that want to do good things for the community,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and this event is a really cool way to pull
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that off. Kip, you know Arizona quite well. It's also
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a good time down there in downtown.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Some good golf, perfect golf weather around that time too.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: M h. Spring training obviously, so you can go to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: camps right around. It's like right before when games start
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and players are it's like the perfect time. Yeah, you
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: get good access there because the players aren't even playing games.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yet they kind of do their thing and then they're
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: excited to be there, so they'll go. You know, they'll
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: be like the roped off areas and they'll spend time there,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: especially appreciating that people are there before the game starts. Anyway,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: if you want to check all of that out, go
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: for it. Playmakers Classic. We'll talk more about it as
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: we move along here in the off season, and we'll
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: bring on other players that will be in attendance. Playmakers Classic,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: More Information Players Trust dot Org. Let's move on here
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: while we have a minute. What did I see here?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: A little note on Bolpi, the most talked about ady
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: ops plus of all time. Chris Kershner with the tweet,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: spoke with an orthopedic surgeon about a surgery. Big takeaways
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that would happen immediately after the quarter zone injections probably
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: indicates how much his shoulder affected his season. That that also
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: means excuses are now over. I disagree. Which has been
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the same player for three years. It is the same
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: player for three years, Kip. He's also now going to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: be coming off shoulder surgery, which is actually always almost
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: always an issue for players often coming off shoulder surgery
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: as a bat is usually an issue, And where the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: hell were the Yankees on this not realizing that his
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: shoulders messed up and it was causing a problem. Like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. This whole story is trash to me,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and if I'm a Yankee fan, yeah, I want to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: move on.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Do I think it affected him?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, But I think if you're good enough to play,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that means you're good enough to hit BP, hitting the cage,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: work on your craft, and you find what works for
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you that day. So I think this struggle was more
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: than just a soldier shoulder surgery explanation.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: So, like you said, it's been going on for a while.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kip eighty one, eighty six and eighty three. That's
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: his ops plus his first three years in the big leagues.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: He just yeah, I mean we saw how good he
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: can be when he plays well. Obviously, anybody it's a
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: no brainer comment, But I just yeah, No, it's there's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: enough stats now behind it where something's off or something.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Or he's an eighty or ops plus guy the.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Guy, Hey, we have a tweet on World Series ticket pricing.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Pompliano does a lot of sports bids. He's been
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: on this show. He said, World Series tickets are currently
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: more expensive in Toronto than in LA. Current get in
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: prices Game one eight to seventy five, Game two nine
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: sixty three. Get in prices doesn't necessarily tell you the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: whole story, of course, but if you want to just
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: get into the building, this is what it looks like.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Game three seven eighty eight, Game four seven fifty, Game
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: five seven eighty seven. Those are the three in LA.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Then back to Toronto, You're you're looking at close to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a grand just to get into the building for what
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming is standing room only.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I know a guy that can get us in.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Kevin Pilar, Kevin Polar walk in Superman poss that's right.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Say I have five of my foul territory.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Fronts, I have five of my Justice leaguers. Let us in.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Random, But I heard the previous Superman that just came
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: out like gets he gets like beat up the whole time.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's Superman. How can anybody beat up?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: So I haven't seen Polar should take over. I'll send
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you something that was really funny on it. Anyway, this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: makes sense, right, Toronto hasn't seen this. I mean you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: played for a team that hadn't experienced this, so you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: can speak to what this is like. The Blue Jays
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: haven't won since ninety three. The Guardians have never won,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: slash Indians or not since what.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I played for a team that didn't win for eighty
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: eight years.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Dude, I forgot about you, you're O.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I forgot about me. Sorry, Kip, I mean you're like
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Favorite Cleveland didn't win. I mean you guys won.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it had been eighty eight years, longer than the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Red Sox. But kIPS on that track with the Guardians
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Anyways, World Series prices are.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: What was the year for Cleveland forty seven forty A
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: forty seven, Kip.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Eight forty eight, forty eight.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Forty eight, I was way off last title in forty
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: eight seventy seven seasons.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: They're chasing down them Bear up there, they're chasing down
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: them Covey Bears.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe if they change back to the Cleveland Spiders they
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: would win.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I actually did like the Cleveland Spiders.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Should they still should have gone for the Steamers. I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: just saying.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Guardians business train. There's last on my list.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: What I don't like off topic, guys.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Sorry, but in the breaks in the commercial breaks. We're
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: allowed to do this.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: This is a commercial. We just we just fuck around
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the Cleveland Steamers.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Because of the boats in the in the in the
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: train that runs through there.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: It should have been.
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  Speaker 1: bring this up from you know, sorry, right from the jump, here.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I know for the production team mind scenes, if you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: can bring up that tweet from you know, I'm curious
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to get the player perspective here and to push it forward.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So he wrote about how the Mariners had twenty five
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: instances where a reliever was seeing a hitter for the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: third time in a series, including when Bizardo saw George
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Springer for the third time in the ALCS. He said,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers have had one. Now, I think there's important
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: context here. The Dodgers don't have to use their relievers
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: as much in the playoffs because their starters goes.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: And they've won every series very easily.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: There's that, But regardless, I do want to get your take,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like you're seeing the same reliever over and over again.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: How much of a factor is that? And clearly there
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are front offices that should be game planning. Hey, this
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: hitter has seen this picture this many times. Eventually it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: going to click. So let's try to avoid that, right, Yes, okay,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: no matter who it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Is, I mean, you should do this in the in
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the regular season. Kid Kip knows this.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: When you played teams nineteen times, you get the same
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: lefty ten times in a year and you're like, Okay,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I bet you I'm.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Gonna figure out how to get some kind of hit
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: off this guy. Do something off this guy.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I used to call Mets spring training games
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: for U S and Y, and I remember multiple times
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: we thought that there was going to be one starter
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and then they were like, nope, Mets are playing the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Phillies today. They're having him pitch in the B game
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: or in the back or whatever because they just don't
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: want him to see them and what he looks like
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in spring training coming up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: So it's all it's all just more information for the hitter.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Think about like a long at bat. He's getting more
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and more information every pitch. Now, just multiply that when
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: he has more and more at bats versus the guy
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: then and if he's like ag said, if he's tried
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: new things, if he tried ambushing this time, if he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: tried sitting curveball on the left on left this time,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he's just he's gathering information and data, and he's if
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you don't want it to be in the playoffs, if
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: you're the pitcher where here's a hitter, he might might
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: have finally found the answer to how to get a
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: hit off you, And that's where Aja is saying, it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: just there's sometimes it's just time where he's due, He's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: he tried everything else.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: You don't want to give a hit or too much information.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, So how do we spin this forward to you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the World Series? Like? Is there anything you should keep
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in mind? My big thing on the Blue Jay side
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is to use that variety. I don't think that there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a clear cut circle of trust for John Schneider. So
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I know I pushed this the other day with you,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, let me see a little Kevin Gossman
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: out of the bullpen on his throat. Ay, let me
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: see Bassett a little bit more frequently, Like, let's just
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: keep throwing different things at the Dodgers. I don't want
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the same game plan middle innings every time from Toronto.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: You know, every day Louis Varland is going to give
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: up some dingers. If he's pitching every game in an
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: extended series like this, that's been the case. It's a trend.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I hate to bring this up for Kip, but like
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Andrew Miller in twenty sixteen, he already mentioned it like
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: they I mean, Francona wore him out even a rolled
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: as Chatman got worn out until and when Raja hit.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: The home run.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: He was worn out because he don't if they're pitch
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: him every game in multiple innings. It was like, dude,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: at some point, you gotta give these guys a break.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: It affected both. It affected both.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: H Miller shouldn't have thrown in game five and Chapman
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have thrown in Game six. I think we were
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: a static that we came back enough to get Chapman
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: into the game, even though we still ended up losing
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: six and seven, but we got him into the game
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: on six, and we felt like that was a win
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: in and of itself right there, because he was gonna
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: be more tired. More guys would have seen him then.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: So there are those little things where you just and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you got to have the two different pitchers. You got
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to have one who can get you an out and
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: one when.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: You need a strikeout. So are there are different ones
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: there too?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You know who I just thought of. We might have
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: brought him up once a while back on the show.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: But remember Brandon Morow for the Dodgers.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: There's a blue jac Yeah, but he pitched for the Dodgers.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: He was a blue Jay. At one point. But he
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: pitched for the Dodgers in what was it the twenty
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: seventeen World Series I believe, right, never came back. Yeah
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: against the Astros. Right, well, then yeah, he got ended
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: up getting hurt. And he did say afterward that you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he was also feeling it a little. I mean, they were,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they were going to him every game, and then he
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't feeling like he had this stuff for one of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: those games.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: That's what Matt Brash looked like for the Blue Jays
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: at the end.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'm running out of gas, I.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Mean for the Mariners. Yeah, that's why he didn't pitched
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: instead of bizarre.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Though, they pitched him the day before.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying, but he looked tired, right, some of
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: these guys get tired. Man, you pitch, they don't pitch
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: as much. If you talk to a manager and keep
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: you knows we talk to your managers, I'd be like, oh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: he's thrown.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Three out of four.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Definitely giving him the day off when the playoffs are
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: like okay, well you can give me one day. You
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: can go four out of five. Men, he pitched in
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: four out of five days regular season, they just were like, hey,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: don't even take spikes. Today, we're not you're not we'll
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: give up this game. You're down to Yeah, you're down.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: But in the playoffs and then they have to try
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to get it up, that's.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Where it's the most important. Uh, the managerially use of
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a bullpen comes into play. The biggest is the playoffs
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and especially the World Series. Now you can get away
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: with stuff during the regular season, you guys down because
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: no and no, nobody's going to say no, No pitcher
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: is going to be like I'm hanging today in the postseason.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So you're always going to have use of everyone. But
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: it just comes down to how the manager works the bullpen,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: which Stringsy pulls.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Mara pitching fourteen out of the Dodgers fifteen playoff games
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. That was his sanity, the trash Can Astros.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was five.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: He was hurt before that.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: He was hurt before, I mean the history of his
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: whole career. And then yeah, that was his moment. In
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the playoffs, he was money for them,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and I think he started to wear down of course,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and then also, I mean World Series twenty seventeen. There's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: there's a lot to it. There. I mean the game
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: five that he pitched in where he gave up like
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: four or five runs. That game was thirteen twelve exactly
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: twenty five runs in that camp. I remember watching. I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: was like, is this going to be how baseball is now?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I just wanted to go over the thought
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: exercise with you guys on how to play this out.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers definitely seemed to have the easier decision making
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: for Dave Roberts. As long as they continue this, it'll
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: be interesting because we haven't really seen this, Kip. What
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: if a starter for the Dodgers does have a bad
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: day and you have to script the rest of the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: game or play it out with your believers. So let's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: say a dude doesn't make it past the second inning
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and you got to fill a lot of time cursh off.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And to cover some in.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: They are they are set up so perfectly for so
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: many things with just how good their staff is. It
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: can handle so many different ways of they're rested, they go,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the starters go long, so yeah, and then they have
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: guys in their bullpen who are starters and are stretched
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: out as well too, so they really are capable of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: handling almost each situation, and like if if the starter,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: let's say game one or two only goes too innings,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: they're out of the game. Now you bullpen it or
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you go Kershaw Like you're saying you still have Yamamoto
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and show, Hey, guys who are willing, who are able
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to go six, seven.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Eight, nine innings themselves.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: So that's the luxury of these guys who are just
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: dominating get late in the games all the time.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Anyways, it's funny if you're in Toronto, you're like, guys,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: let's let's get one of these starters knocked out so
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we get Kershaw. Just sounds funny, he did. I mean
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: he always puts up good run prevention numbers, no matter
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: what the stuff.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Looks like, and that it used to be not got
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: the starter to get to the bullpen.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Well here's here's a Hall of Famer waiting for you.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Good, but stuff wise, I mean, you'd much rather face
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw than a good day for Blake Snell, Tyler Glass,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: now Yamamoto or Otani.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: True, True, I'm just disappointed.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Show he's only if this game, if it goes seven,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it only get to pitch a once.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: No twice, he'll come out of the bullpen in Game seven.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Do you think his dream give up, give up the
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: DH his dream to.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Do exactly what he did in the World Baseball.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Class, It's got to be Kershaw for me.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I actually think Shotani, as robotic as he is, has
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: one dream right Game seven, World Series, tight game and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: he closes it out. I actually think that's the thing
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: He's talked to the team about on it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I like, push, are we getting to a Game
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: seven too soon?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I want to bet on it. That's that was I
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: did miss that. Uh, but that's what he wants. Okay, Wait,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you think Kershaw is going to close it out.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, an ideal world, if we had Andy McColl
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: on the other day, if they have a lead and
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: a big enough lead, and it's a clinching game, Kershaw's
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: last game and you bring you bring him in.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's got to be.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, I understand, but I'm saying five six runs,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: you say, kursh go close this thing out and let
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: him do it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I think that would be the storybook ending. He deserves
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: six plus. Okay, fine, They're up ten to two in
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the ninth kursh finish this thing.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird to say, like the storybook Eddy that
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: he deserves. Like guys had an amazing career, he also
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: deserves the storybook I need as well.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, some people get it all. Some people get it all, Kip.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, it would be so cool, you really would.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, curseh is already. There's one thing Kersh
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: has missed in his career that he didn't get. He
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: didn't get the tyler Glass now body. Okay, but he
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: got the Hall of Fame career, he got the money,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: he got everything else, but he doesn't have the tyler
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Glass now body.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: No, he's a proud dad body, I know.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So you can't really get it all.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: He got most of it. He just missed that one
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: little thing.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he is inspirational, as are many baseball players.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: You don't have to have a tyler Glass now body
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: to make it to the big leagues.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: That's rowdy, right, there's a lot of guys where you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: look and you're like, Okay, he's.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Just firing from the hip today.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: It's been a long week, Kip. You missed you missed
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: To seek apparently welcome to foul thereto.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: It's been a lot of It's been a rough week
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: on the Twitter for me.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I've been getting people have really hurt my feelings that
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: they're mean words they've said to me.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: I have to take a part.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: If you think about the context. I mean, it's fans
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: just talking rubbish, yes, strategy stuff like whatever. You know.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I got a fan going, oh, I mean, did you
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: forget George Springer play the outfield? No, you're watching a
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: thirty second clip on Twitter and we talked about that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: for five minutes of it and his knee. But thanks
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: for chiming in. Hey, it's FT presented by the new
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  Speaker 1: Fox one app. We have some news coming in about
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the Braves manager spot, which I think is the best
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  Speaker 1: job available out of the whatever. The number is still
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a large number of openings. Scott Coleman, part of our
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Hammer Territory crew, said Mark Bowman's reporting, it seems the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Braves are down to three candidates. Clubs bench coach Ryan Flaherty,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Downders bench coach Danny Lahman. Who's the third Somebody send
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: me who the third one is on there? Cut But
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Mark Bowman also wrote a quote tweet on that and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: said he confidently, Oh here's the third one, George Lombard,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Tiger's bench coach. But he said he confidently removed David Ross,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Mark de Rosa, and John Gibbons from the list. I
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: remember when I worked with DeRosa at MLB, that was
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like what he was waiting for at one point. That was,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: but that was a while ago. This was when Snicker
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: took over and then ends up staying there for a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: long period of time. And I don't think. I don't
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: know what the deal is. Maybe he's waiting till his
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: kids are out.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Too good of a gig right now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It's a good gig. And also I.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Paid a lot of money from MLB to talk really
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: well about MLB on MLB Central, right.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: He gets to go around with Rob Manford and hang
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: out and play golf.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: It's a good gig.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: It's a lot because the Dratetage team USA every year
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: every few years.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean he's got a pretty good gig
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. At some point, when you know, the the channel
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: keeps changing like it does, then maybe he gets interested
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: in the manager role, because I mean the manager roles grind.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: The very big difference from doing a little bit of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: TV right a lot more heat. I mean, Braves fans,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: they've got a great team and a great organization. Braves
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: fans have high expectations, rightfully so, But Kip, whenever I
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: go on like this year, I'll go on a radio
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: station in Atlanta and I'll make just just want to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: make sure everyone listening here is aware, like the world
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: is not ending. This team won a World Series recently.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: They're competitive every year. Like, I get it, this is
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: not a good year, but this fan base has experienced
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: really good baseball and almost every way, sorry you didn't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: have time for that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Were spoiled in a good way. They've had such a
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: good Yeah, spoiled.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Let's slap. And we have a quote that Ken Rosenthal
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: put out there from Max Scherzer on Giants new manager
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Tony Vitello. By Tello was the pitching coach at Missouri
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: when Max Scherzer was there. I tell he is not
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: that much older than Max. Max is what forty one
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: ish forty two? I tell he's forty seven. But anyway,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Max said, I absolutely believe in him. He's to this
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: day one of my closest friends, and I absolutely believe
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: he's going to get it done at the big league level.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: It sounds like at some point we're gonna have to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: talk to forty one year old Max about toy Bytello.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Max a little busy right now. He's got a World
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Series that he's going to pitch in.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: M He's a little busier right now.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but mac Max is a big fan of foul
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Territory as well, so we'll get him probably right after
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: World Series, I would say at this point to recap
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: it right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: By the way, I got a couple of birthdays that
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: we have to shout out. One, Yes, Carbon Burns used
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to be my favorite player, but not anymore. Two, eat
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: your row. Three Brad Thomas. If you don't know who
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Brad Thomas is, he was a left handed pitcher. He
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: started came up with the Twins. Was supposed to be
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: on the plane in nine to eleven flying home to Australia,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: one of the ones that was crashed. Michael Kadyer hit
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: a home run in the Double A Playoffs kept him
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: from being on that plane, so he missed that plane.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: He would not be here today. So Brad X team
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: made of mind. Great story. And last, but not least,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Hector Carrasco. If you don't know who Hector Carrasco is,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: looking him up. He's a right handed pitcher. He was
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: with the Twins when I came up. He lost his luggage,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: like on every other charter flight. I never figured it out,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: and then they'd have to give him money for his
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: clothing his luggage. So every like every third flight, he'd
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: be like, I lost my luggage, and they'd have to
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: give him a check for his clothing. Smart play, A
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: smart play, smart play, Hector. I don't know how you
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: lose your luggage on a charter flight, but he did
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: it often.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: At that door flung open and one bag fell.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: It happened like five times when you were like, Hector
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: out hel, do you lose your luggage on a charter plane?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Bro? That's good And I literally happened like five times.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: The flight guy's a cut that's how right exactly.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Flight guys got it in the cockpit, put it down
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: the suet.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Do you guys know how old is one of guess
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: physics two.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I just saw him. He looks unbelievably good. I saw
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: him in here in Seattle.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Wow, he's a workout machine.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Dude's unbelievable good.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: That guy looks he loves the game as much as
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: anybody I know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: But I was like, don't you have anything else to do?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I mean he gotta have something to do. His whole
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: life is just be like you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Going to Clue or to to Wrigleyfield every day and
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: just hanging out like.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: No, I gotta fight something else to do working out
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: with I know, yeah, but it's it's cool. I love
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