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Mike McCarthy Withdraws From Saints Search | Will New Orleans Hire Kellen Moore Or Darren Rizzi? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: looking for a head coach and they're getting closer. If
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  Speaker 1: So another day has certainly brought you closer to the
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  Speaker 1: day that you're gonna name a coach and somebody's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take this job because, as Mickey Loomis told us, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of thirty two. That's why it's a good job,
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  Speaker 1: because it's a job which in and of itself is
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  Speaker 1: indicative why this is a bad job when you have
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  Speaker 1: nothing else to sell. But a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: reacting to the decision that my Mike McCarthy made, or
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  Speaker 1: that was reported on Tuesday night that Mike McCarthy would
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  Speaker 1: withdraw from consideration for the Saints job, that being the
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  Speaker 1: only remaining job. Of course, that Mike McCarthy would withdraw
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  Speaker 1: from the Saints job and sit out the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five season and then re enter the market in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, it is worth noting that's exactly what Mike
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy did when he was fired in Green Bay. He
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  Speaker 1: was fired in Green Bay in twenty eighteen, he sat
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  Speaker 1: out twenty nineteen, and then jumped back in as Jason
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  Speaker 1: Garrett's replacement in Dallas in twenty twenty. So Mike McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: nationally is a bigger story here because he's the guy
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  Speaker 1: that was a Super Bowl winning coach with the Packers
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  Speaker 1: and then coached the Cowboys. So all the national talking
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  Speaker 1: heads are talking about this more from the McCarthy perspective
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  Speaker 1: and less from the Saints perspective. But look, Harry Douglas,
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  Speaker 1: the guy played a long time in the NFL. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say about Mike McCarthy withdrawing from
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  Speaker 1: Saints consideration.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing, right if you sit out
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  Speaker 2: a year, gather your thoughts in for a better opening
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  Speaker 2: to come up, so you can also have a better
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  Speaker 2: interview with whatever respected team in the future. And when
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at teams, Freddy, that could potentially come open
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  Speaker 2: next season. Hey, Mike McDaniel, if the Miami Dolphins can't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get on their horse, that job might be open.
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  Speaker 2: When I look at Shane Stike and Innianapolis Coats, if
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  Speaker 2: you can't seem to get Anthony Richardson going and guys
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  Speaker 2: to play better down the stretch, when you still have
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  Speaker 2: an open window like they did in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: one more I have is the New York Giants. If
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  Speaker 2: Brian day Boy and company, if those guys can't get
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  Speaker 2: the ship moving in a different direction and in a
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  Speaker 2: positive and promising direction, and that's another job that could
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  Speaker 2: potentially be open.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the direction he took that conversation. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 1: good and beneficial to hear people outside of this ecosystem
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  Speaker 1: give a perspective, because sometimes you like you'd call that
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  Speaker 1: third party validation, right some thing, If you or I
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  Speaker 1: say it, it's different if someone from outside from a
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  Speaker 1: different perspective is saying the same thing. But Harry was
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  Speaker 1: talking about looking at you from Mike McCarthy's lens, but
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  Speaker 1: saying wait for a better job. I mean, Miami, Indy
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  Speaker 1: Giants could all be open X shows would all be
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  Speaker 1: better jobs than New Orleans. He's right, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: problem New Orleans is running into. I mean, you look
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  Speaker 1: at Miami. What if Miami does come out the next year. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we got two I understand too, has got concussion issues
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see what that means. Miami was, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: the oldest roster in the NFL this year. But you
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  Speaker 1: do have a young franchise quarterback and you've got a
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  Speaker 1: much better cap situation than the Saints do. As we
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  Speaker 1: know Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, I mean, like Anthony Richardson may
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  Speaker 1: not be the guy, but you'd still have a guy
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  Speaker 1: who is a a highly thought of quarterback that was
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  Speaker 1: a top the worth picking the draft the Giants. I
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  Speaker 1: would assume the Giants are going to go draft the
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones replacement this year in the draft, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the young guy like Maliite neighbors. So bottom line is,
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  Speaker 1: all these places are better opportunities than New Orleans, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of what we've talked about here for months
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  Speaker 1: that the sound of being redundant, this was always going
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  Speaker 1: to be the problem. We ran through that exercise where
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  Speaker 1: I played the role of Ben Johnson and Muse was
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  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's agent. It's like, sell me on all the jobs,
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  Speaker 1: and we went through everything, the quarterback situation, the ownership situation,
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  Speaker 1: cap draft capital age at the roster, everything, and the
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  Speaker 1: Saints were of the jobs we thought that were opener
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  Speaker 1: would come open. The Saints were the worst job. And
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  Speaker 1: it's manifesting, it's playing out. I mean, your top choice
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  Speaker 1: was Aaron Glenn. He picked another team that the top
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  Speaker 1: guy in the market, Ben Johnson, didn't even give you
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  Speaker 1: an interview. Aaron Glenn picked somebody else. Joe Brady said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm as stay in Buffalo. Cliff Kingsberry said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a good, I'm a stay in Washington. I mean
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. When you look at the McCarthy news, I
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  Speaker 1: know there's two ways to look at that. I should
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  Speaker 1: say there is two ways to look at that. One
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  Speaker 1: is he didn't want your job, wants to wait next
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  Speaker 1: year for something better, or he wasn't going to get
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  Speaker 1: the job. And that happens often where if a team
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to hire a certain candidate, they tell the guy, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're not getting this job. So publicly they can say
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  Speaker 1: I'm withdrawing. It allows him to save face. Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: The other part of that too, is you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you're Mike McCarthy, you are kind of being strung along
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  Speaker 1: a little bit here. It's like, do you ever watch
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  Speaker 1: a show Shark Tank? You've ever seen that? I love that
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  Speaker 1: show if you've ever watched it. It's a it's these
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  Speaker 1: business people that are negotiating if they're gonna buy equity
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  Speaker 1: into a company as an investor. But sometimes what will
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  Speaker 1: happen in that show is like the first shark will
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  Speaker 1: make an offer, and I mean, here you have this
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  Speaker 1: person that's a super wealthy, successful business person that's made
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  Speaker 1: an offer to buy equity in this company, and that
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  Speaker 1: person saying, ah, it's a burd in hand. But what
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  Speaker 1: if someone has a better offer, So they're like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna listen to everybody else. Well, that first person that
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  Speaker 1: made the offer sometimes gets ticked and is like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I'm out never mind. I mean, I made
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  Speaker 1: you an offer, and now you're gonna go listen to
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  Speaker 1: other people. Maybe that's where Mike McCarthy was going, like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in the job. I'm a super Bowl winning coach.
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  Speaker 1: I've won sixty percent of my games in my career.
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  Speaker 1: I just had Dallas in the playoffs. I've been in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs eleven times. And you want to wait and
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  Speaker 1: see if there's somebody better among guys that have never
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  Speaker 1: been a coach before. I'm good. I'll wait for a
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  Speaker 1: better opportunity next year. Like maybe that's where it was
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  Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy. I don't know. I mean in time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. As time goes on, all these
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  Speaker 1: guys end up telling their stories. So we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: ultimately happened here. But the bottom line is it's another
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  Speaker 1: another negative situation for the Saints because you have another
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  Speaker 1: viable candidate that for whatever reason, has withdrawn. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're New Orleans, this is what you're down to. You're
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  Speaker 1: down to Kellen Moore, who wasn't on anybody's radar when
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  Speaker 1: this thing started. The initial odds about a month ago,
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  Speaker 1: a little more than a month ago, but the middle
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  Speaker 1: of December there were odds posted on who would be
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  Speaker 1: the next Saints coach. Number sixteen candidates listed. Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 1: wasn't one of the sixteen. But it's Kellen Moore, it's
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  Speaker 1: retaining Darren Rizzy, and then it's Anthony Weaver and Mike Kafka.
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  Speaker 1: That's your list, Like it's gonna be one of those
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  Speaker 1: four guys. I mean, unless if there's a candidate none
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  Speaker 1: of us foresee that maybe pops up here late in
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  Speaker 1: the process, which I mean, I don't know that I
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  Speaker 1: see that happening. It sounds like, I mean, you're waiting
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  Speaker 1: to interview Joe Brady, that's not gonna happen. You're waiting
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  Speaker 1: to interview Cliff Kingsbury, that's not gonna happen. You're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to interview Mike McCarthy this week, that's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: So you've done all your interviews. I mean, you've had
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  Speaker 1: four in person interviews. It's going to be one of
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  Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, is is it Kellen Moore? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if it is, it's a young guy, offensive minded guy.
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  Speaker 1: He checks some boxes. But I don't think that's the
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  Speaker 1: type of hire that's going to make people super pumped thinking, Yep,
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  Speaker 1: you found the guy that's going to transform this organization.
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  Speaker 1: And in fairness, I don't know that many people thought
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  Speaker 1: that about Sean Payton in two thousand and six and
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  Speaker 1: it worked. Maybe it could work with Kellen Moore, maybe not,
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  Speaker 1: but it is certainly it stings to see another viable
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  Speaker 1: candidate scratched off the list because what's left right now
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  Speaker 1: is not a very impressive list. It's not something that
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  Speaker 1: should instill a lot of confidence for the New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: Saints moving forward. And I'll continue to reiterate it for
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  Speaker 1: those that haven't heard me say, and I've been saying
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  Speaker 1: this for about two weeks now, and a lot you're
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  Speaker 1: starting to hear this refrain a lot more from people,
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  Speaker 1: but we've been saying it here for about two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I think your best option is to retain Daron Rizzy
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  Speaker 1: for now. You're not gonna tell him you're retaining him
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  Speaker 1: for a year, because if he comes here and he's awesome, great,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think that that's gonna happen. I think
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna stink next year. But you retained Aaron Rizzy,
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  Speaker 1: and a year from now, when your cap situation is
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  Speaker 1: a much better spot. After you tank, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a top five pick and a deep quarterback draft class
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  Speaker 1: to go draft your franchise. Some of those aging contracts
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  Speaker 1: are gonna are gonna roll off of your roster, and
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  Speaker 1: you're a much more attractive job a year from now
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  Speaker 1: than you are right now. And then you go hire
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  Speaker 1: Joe Brady or whoever is at Ben Johnson out of
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  Speaker 1: near the top of the of the list because you're
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  Speaker 1: because you are a more attractive destination where you can
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  Speaker 1: have success. You're just not right now. It's the market
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  Speaker 1: is speaking. All of these candidates that are not willing
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  Speaker 1: to take your job. The market is speaking, you are
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  Speaker 1: not an attractive spot, but you got to hire somebody.
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  Speaker 1: So are you playing for the short term? Are you're
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  Speaker 1: playing for the long term? Something we'll find out with
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  Speaker 1: the gum Smack and Mickey here pretty soon