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L53 Live with Robert Prevo from " MONSTROUS " · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys. This episode is with Robert Prevo from
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  Speaker 1: The Monstrous Podcast. He's an investigator who's had many, you know, encounters.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's had, like he has a hat Man
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  Speaker 1: encounter that is just incredible. I don't think it's in
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  Speaker 1: this episode, it's in previous episodes. He runs a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, called The Monstrous and he's like more
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  Speaker 1: he's more scientifically minded, and you know, he kind of
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  Speaker 1: he's he's a really nice guy, well spoken, great but
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, and enjoy this episode with Robert
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  Speaker 1: Provo from the Monstrous Podcast. Welcome back today, I Jupiter Live.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Tom Franklin, and today we have on
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  Speaker 1: the wonderful Robert Prevo from the Monstrous Podcast. He's a great,
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  Speaker 1: great guy. We're just gonna have a conversation. It's always
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  Speaker 1: good to chat with Robert. He's got a critical mind,
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  Speaker 1: he's a critical thinker, but he really enjoys what we
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  Speaker 1: accept my request if you would come on, and he's
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  Speaker 1: let's welcome to the Igrebrater Podcast one. Mister Robert pro Hey, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: how's it going, buddy? It's going good man. How are
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  Speaker 1: you today? Doing great?
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  Speaker 2: You reminded me as soon as you mentioned Rumble, you
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  Speaker 2: reminded me that I need to update my Rumble over there.
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  Speaker 2: I've got episodes on YouTube that I don't have on rumbles,
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  Speaker 2: so I need to add those in.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's hard man, because you I So. What
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  Speaker 1: I do is when I upload my stuff, I have
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  Speaker 1: the first ticket, grab it, Grab a section that you
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  Speaker 1: know was interesting that fits to like the way I
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  Speaker 1: want to present it. Put it on the front. Get
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  Speaker 1: a nice little thing that I get from an AI,
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  Speaker 1: put it on the front. Do that, upload it all,
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  Speaker 1: go to chat ept, get all my stuff, fix it
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  Speaker 1: and reword it the way I want it. Then I
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  Speaker 1: finally get all that done, it's upload it and then
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  Speaker 1: you have to go to Rumble, and also I have
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  Speaker 1: to go to Spreaker it's it's, uh, people don't realize
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  Speaker 1: how much work it is behind the scenes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just getting getting guests certain seats, seeking out guests and
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  Speaker 1: uh hopefully getting them on the show, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, there's there's a lot of work that's
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes. Whenever you're trying to locate eyewitnesses that
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  Speaker 2: want to you know, that actually want to come on
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  Speaker 2: and they want to talk about what they've experienced. That's
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  Speaker 2: one of the hardest things right there. And then trying
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  Speaker 2: to schedule it in get them to where they're on
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  Speaker 2: the same platform that you're on with stream yard and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, to where you can schedule it and
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, and then you can get to together.
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  Speaker 2: You can edit everything afterwards and you know, add in
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  Speaker 2: your your graphics, your sounds, all the stuff, get it edited,
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  Speaker 2: put it together the way you want it, and then
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  Speaker 2: put it on a platform somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, people don't they think, you know, well, once
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  Speaker 1: you know, once you're you know, on YouTube and you
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  Speaker 1: get monetized that you make money, you really don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I get lucky if I make fifty dollars a month,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, not much, but it's the way
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  Speaker 1: it is, and uh, you know, we just we're struggling
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that we just keep doing we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's more of a labor of love than it is anything.
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  Speaker 2: Else, exactly exactly. Yeah, we do this because that's what
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  Speaker 2: we want to do. We want to get the we
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  Speaker 2: want to get the information out there because we know
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  Speaker 2: that you guys enjoy it. We enjoy putting it out there.
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  Speaker 2: We enjoy the podcast just as much as you guys do.
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  Speaker 2: I watch I of Jubiter, I watch you know, everybody
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  Speaker 2: else who you know, is putting out stuff. I love
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  Speaker 2: tom stuff as much as everybody else does, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So thanks, thank you absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, talking about the show, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and like you know, introduce yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and tell everybody about yourself and why you do what
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  Speaker 1: you do and tell them a little bit about your
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  Speaker 1: show man.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay. So, as you know, I'm Robert Provo. I've
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  Speaker 2: been involved in Yeah, I got all fancy with it,
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  Speaker 2: Provo Prevo, who cares anyway, you know? So anyway I've
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  Speaker 2: been I've been involved with cryptozoology and the paranormal pretty
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  Speaker 2: much my entire life. Especially with the paranormal. I'm one
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  Speaker 2: of those kids who grew up seeing ghost experience and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: one of the kids who was afraid of the dark
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  Speaker 2: because I knew that there was monsters in there. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm again exer. I grew up with
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  Speaker 2: In Search of and those kinds of shows where we all,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about the Locknest Monster. We were
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  Speaker 2: talking about Patty and stuff like that, and we always
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  Speaker 2: thought it was a world away, but we didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: that all these things were happening in our own backyard
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  Speaker 2: and that we could actually go look for them, excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: And so in the eighties, whenever I was a teenagers,
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  Speaker 2: whenever I really was, I spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 2: in the woods as as a teenager, and that's where
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  Speaker 2: I really got to where I understood and got in
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  Speaker 2: touch with nature, and you know, started the whole investigating
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  Speaker 2: researching thing. I was big into religions from all around
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  Speaker 2: the world, studied the occult, everything I could get my
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  Speaker 2: hands on, you know, as far as monsters and you know,
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  Speaker 2: anything anything from movie monsters on. So, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: I became an adult and everything, I really got involved
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  Speaker 2: in cryptozoology and the paranormal and you know, it just
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  Speaker 2: kind of went from there. I used to be an
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  Speaker 2: admin with cryptozoology dot com. They're defunct now, the page
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  Speaker 2: is no longer there, but I used to be an
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  Speaker 2: admin on there and a writer on there. So I
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  Speaker 2: wrote a lot of articles for them, And so I
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  Speaker 2: went ahead and I started working on doing research in
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  Speaker 2: my area with black panthers, because you know, authorities will
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  Speaker 2: tell you there's no black panthers in North America. Well,
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  Speaker 2: anybody who spends any time in the forest knows that
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  Speaker 2: there's black panthers in North America's just like I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you there's no mountain lions in our area. There's no
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  Speaker 2: black bears in our area. I'm in Arkansas, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: and we know for a fact that you know there are.
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  Speaker 2: And so anyway, that's the part of cryptozoology. Cryptozoology at
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  Speaker 2: its heart is biological. We're looking for animals, biological animals
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  Speaker 2: that either used to exist and are believed to be extinct,
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  Speaker 2: or we're looking for animals that were never proven to
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  Speaker 2: actually exist. Okay, so I've evolved on from that. As
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  Speaker 2: you can see down there, it says Robert the animologist. Well,
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  Speaker 2: animology is something I kind of came up with, which
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  Speaker 2: is a combination of the paranormal cryptozoology uphology. Basically, what
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  Speaker 2: it is is it takes away, it strips away all
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  Speaker 2: the barriers and it makes it so that if you're
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  Speaker 2: an investigator or researcher, you feel free to investigate any
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  Speaker 2: of those things that you want to investigate. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: put it under one one umbrella.
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  Speaker 1: Right now you're talking about you're talking about I'm sorry, Robert,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about We'll get we'll get to your book, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I promise we're talking about the uh, the these these cryptos.
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  Speaker 1: But and you know, like animologists, you know, they just
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  Speaker 1: like they just did the dire wolf thing. That's wild
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  Speaker 1: and it's a little bit scary. Man. I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what's your thoughts on that, just like real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm pretty good friends with Ryan Trimblay
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  Speaker 2: and we were talking about that the other day and
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  Speaker 2: he's got a friend who refers to the dire wolf
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  Speaker 2: as the lire wolf, uh, the one that they just
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  Speaker 2: came out with. So you know, and and there's a
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  Speaker 2: good reason behind that, because these aren't true dire wolves
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  Speaker 2: that they've come out with. When when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the way that they manipulated the genetics. They didn't actually
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  Speaker 2: use genetics from a dire wolf. What they did is
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  Speaker 2: they took a gray wolf and they altered the genetics
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  Speaker 2: in such a way through using crisper so that it
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  Speaker 2: would fit as close as they could possibly get from
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  Speaker 2: what they understand with the genetics that they have. So
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  Speaker 2: the genetics that they have in mapping the dire wolf
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  Speaker 2: is not complete, you know, it's kind of it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like what we saw in Jurassic Park. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not it's yeah, so it's not complete. So if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at ten thousand year old a genetic string,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be in pieces. So they got it
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  Speaker 2: as close as they could and then they what they
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  Speaker 2: did is they took a great wolf and then they
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  Speaker 2: took and they matched up the genetics so that this
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  Speaker 2: embryo or these embryos would come out appearing to be
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  Speaker 2: just like a dire wolf. Now as close as they
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  Speaker 2: can get. Now you have to remember, these are cubs.
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  Speaker 2: These are cubs still, so we still don't know if
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  Speaker 2: they'll even reach maturity.
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  Speaker 1: We we you know, we kind of hope that Dolly,
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  Speaker 1: like as far as I know, Dolly to Sheep back,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that was the late eighties, early nineties
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  Speaker 1: Dolly or mid nineties like that. She didn't make it
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  Speaker 1: very long as far as I remember.
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  Speaker 2: What was interesting about Dolly Dolly being a clone, Well,
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  Speaker 2: what they did is they cloned, they cloned a sheep
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  Speaker 2: of a certain age. So whenever they cloned that sheep,
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  Speaker 2: the embryo already started out at that age. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like if I cloned somebody who was thirty five years old,
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  Speaker 2: that embryo would start out at that mark of thirty
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  Speaker 2: five years old.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's kind of like that the Robin
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  Speaker 1: Williams movie where you just like, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: but not really. I'm sorry, you were about to talk
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  Speaker 1: about your book. Please please tell me about your book.
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  Speaker 1: We got the link rail, guys.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Yeah, so I've got a Monstrous Arkansas
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  Speaker 2: The Field Guide Unknown in the Serious Beings in the
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  Speaker 2: Natural State. And yeah, it's kind of a kind of
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  Speaker 2: a fun little book. It's just the idea was to
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  Speaker 2: come out with the field Guide for the monsters that
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  Speaker 2: were in Arkansas. We had I had seen a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff at the time, you know, Washington gets
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  Speaker 2: all the publicity whenever it comes to Bigfoot, and then
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  Speaker 2: you see what the apple Achians, and yeah, I felt
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the Ozarks was missing out. So I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's kick out a book for Arkansas. So we did
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  Speaker 2: that and had had a lot of fun with it.
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  Speaker 2: It was I did about half the artwork in it,
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  Speaker 2: and a friend of mine, Dale Kitty, did the other
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  Speaker 2: half of the artwork. And it was a labor love.
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  Speaker 2: So the idea was to come up with a book
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  Speaker 2: that researchers and investigators could keep in their backpack when
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  Speaker 2: they're actually in the field and use it as a reference.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, fantastic dude, And this is you can find this
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  Speaker 1: on your website or where can you find this?
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  Speaker 2: You can go directly to Amazon dot com and you
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  Speaker 2: can find it there.
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  Speaker 1: You go, just go and type that in, guys and
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  Speaker 1: hook them up. Yeah, that's very interesting to crisper technology.
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  Speaker 1: So like, if this technology, which I think is known
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  Speaker 1: for about fifteen years, if I'm not mistaken, it's about
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  Speaker 1: that old. What is your take on If they can
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  Speaker 1: take that and they can make a dire wolf, how
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  Speaker 1: far are they away from making something like a dog man?
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  Speaker 1: You know? What I mean, like, if they can do that,
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  Speaker 1: then why can't they do that as well?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the problem. What we didn't. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: actually make a dire wolf. First of all, we made
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  Speaker 2: an We made an altered gray wolf. So we have
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  Speaker 2: to keep that in mind. Okay, So what you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about is recombinant DNA. So we do a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of that with We kind of do it for fun
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  Speaker 2: with like tropical fish, where we'll take a certain type
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  Speaker 2: of tropical fish and we might take the DNA for
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  Speaker 2: bioluminescence out of jellyfish and we'll add it to them,
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  Speaker 2: and you end up with these glow in the dark fish.
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  Speaker 2: So you got kind of that. But whenever you start
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  Speaker 2: messing with trying to alter, you know, and add in
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  Speaker 2: a Homo sapien mixed with a canid, you're you're going
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  Speaker 2: to end up with a mess. Ninety nine percent of
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  Speaker 2: the time is not even going to you start to work.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you got it has to take. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: you have to be able to have a junction in
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  Speaker 2: that DNA strand and okay for that to for that
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  Speaker 2: to actually take, So you're not going to You're not
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  Speaker 2: going to jump that much evolutionary period without understanding. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody kind of thinks, well, you can take
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  Speaker 2: this and you can make monsters of any kind that
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  Speaker 2: you want. You know, it's, you know, kind of like
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  Speaker 2: taking apart your g I Joe's and putting them back together,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, well, this one's got this head and
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  Speaker 2: this one's got this arm, and no, it's it's not
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  Speaker 2: quite that much fun.
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  Speaker 1: You know. There's there's a take that's your take on
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  Speaker 1: dog Man, a dog mat of somewhere's between a primate
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  Speaker 1: and because of the name, or is that your actual
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  Speaker 1: take on it, Because the way I'm kind of seeing it,
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  Speaker 1: it's more like a maybe a mutation of somewhere's in
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  Speaker 1: the cane. It's you know what I mean, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a cana that's able to stand up, whatever that means.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a I don't think it's kind of a mixer. Just
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  Speaker 1: think that's what it's called colloquially. Colloquially me me personally.
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  Speaker 2: From what I've been studying and from what I've been
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  Speaker 2: working on, my hypothesis is that dog Man is not
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  Speaker 2: a cane. It at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's okay, you think it's a primate, I do. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: could you expound upon that how you came Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'd absolutely love to. I kind of have to
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  Speaker 2: back up because it actually starts with the illuminated eyes
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  Speaker 2: that we see, and it actually starts with sasquatch. So
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  Speaker 2: let me let me back off of dog man and
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  Speaker 2: go to sasquatch because this has occurred with sasquatch much
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  Speaker 2: longer in investigations than it has with dog Man. So
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  Speaker 2: whenever we look at research and investigations that have to
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  Speaker 2: do with sage sasquatch, we've noticed that they a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time sort of reported to have illuminated eyes. Usually
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  Speaker 2: they're red illuminated eyes, and it's not like eye shine.
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  Speaker 2: There's something in the back of a lot of animal's eyes.
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  Speaker 2: It's called the tapitam lucidam and it's like a concave mirror,
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  Speaker 2: and what it does is it reflects that light back
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  Speaker 2: into the eyes, back into the cones and the rods,
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  Speaker 2: and it magnifies that light. That's why whenever you look
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  Speaker 2: at a wolf, or you look at a dog or
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  Speaker 2: a cat or anything with eyeshine or with a flashlight,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see that eye shine. Now we are
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  Speaker 2: seeing that with Sasquatch. I think Tom will be right back.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's got issue right there. But we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: self illuminated eyes with Susquatch and we're not sure what's
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  Speaker 2: going on with that. There's a lot of talk about
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  Speaker 2: this being something a little bit more paranormal, but I
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  Speaker 2: tend to look at things in a much more biological way,
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  Speaker 2: So what could possibly be causing that? Because we know
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  Speaker 2: that they have excellent night vision, they can see in
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  Speaker 2: the dark like we can see in the daytime, they're
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  Speaker 2: able to also see IR light on IR cameras from
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  Speaker 2: game cameras. We know this because they're able to avoid
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  Speaker 2: our game cameras and we have seen them at distance
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  Speaker 2: peeking around trees at game cameras, so they're actually able
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  Speaker 2: to see the IR light and they understand the function
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  Speaker 2: of that light. There's also talk about Sasquatch being subterranean
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  Speaker 2: or partially subterranean, that they use caves or go into
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  Speaker 2: holes in the ground, you know, to escape bad weather
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  Speaker 2: or maybe get away from the harsh winter weather or
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  Speaker 2: maybe even the harsh summer weather. So there's some coming back.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it's necessary for these cres to be able
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  Speaker 2: to see an almost absolute pitch black. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever been in a cave before, but I've
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  Speaker 2: been in mammoth caves whenever they turned out all lights
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  Speaker 2: and it's absolutely black.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was in a cave in Indiana back in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and two. It was like a cave with
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  Speaker 1: the biggest mountain in side, which basically where the ceiling
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: falls down and creases debris, and they turned out the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: lights and I was with my ex wife and I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I was the scared one. I had all my old
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I just got out of the military and was driving
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: across country and I was like, could you guys turn
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the lights back on, because if it is blacker than black, guys, yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you're yeah, really, So, if you're a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: creature who is needing to travel subterraneanly through these caves,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to be able to see or
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to be able to You know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: bats have echo location, so we don't know that Bigfoot
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: has echo location, but if they are using these caves
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to travel through, they're going to need to be able
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to see. So if you want to be able to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: see in complete blackness, you need to be able to
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: see in a different wavelength. So it would either have
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to be in the infrared spectrum or it would have
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to be in the thermal spectrum, and possibly both. Yeah,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you do need to get to man with caves.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, Austin's here, everybody, Hey Austin from the Day Chronicles
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: High Body.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the thing is that means that these creatures,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: these sasquad, have an organ in their eyes similar to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the tapitam lucidum like other animals have, but it's a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: little bit different and it's able to actually allow it
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: to see in either the ir or thermal range that
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: we can't see, possibly both, which one of the side
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: effects of that may be that self illuminating eye, or
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it may be something that they use in absolute black
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: so that they can identify one another.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting too. And maybe if
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it's some type of an organ up there, they can
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: also emit emit that what people call it being zapped
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: or you know, they always say ultrasound.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Or whatever it is. That's always a possibility, right, So it's.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Like another organ where they for them. They're immune to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it because they're used to projecting it, you know, through
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: evolutionary processes, and it bounces off one of them kind
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of like a bat, and comes back and hits the organ,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and they know that you're there. It's a good, good,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: good chance.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: See, And a lot of people will be like, oh, well,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you know that that's kind of far fetched. Well it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: really not that far fetched. Human beings couldn't even see
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the color blue or register the color blue until somewhere
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: in the mid medieval period. We had, right, we had green,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: we had red, we had other colors, and purple actually, yes,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Yeah, what our brain sees as purple is
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: actually our or what we describe as purple is actually
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: where our brain takes blue and red and mixes the two,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: because purple does not actually exist as a wave length color. Hmm.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to look into because I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: as a painter, I take my lizard crimson and I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: mix my Prussian blue and I put them together and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I get my nice purple. But I do know for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a long time it didn't exist, or like there was
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: also like you know, certain tribes in certain areas of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the world who didn't see yellow. It was only just
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like our orange. It was just certain colors of green.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: They would just say, oh, it's just light green or
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. But that purple truly doesn't exist. That's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: interesting because if we're perceiving it as purple and perception
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is our reality, then I would, at least on the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: philosophically speaking, would maybe kind of bump up against you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: on that one a little bit.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: No, that's fine. We should always do that. It should
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it should always be a conversation. There should never be
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you know, you know how I am about that. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: don't think we should ever just you know, well Robert
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: said so so, or Tom said so that. So that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the way it is.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: We should always discuss these things. Yeah, which is the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: bay God. We got Tim from the Ohio Researchers. I Tim,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: what's it going buddy? Yeah? I think that I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that little statement not to get political whatsoever, is a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: microcosm of what's everything that's going on nowadays. You know
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: what I mean, It's a microcosm. You know, you should
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: be able to listen to someone's opinion and that you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: not drop the Nazi word, you know what I mean?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: In every two seconds to promote an idea because you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: disagree with it. And and I think that's been for
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: some reason, and I think mostly because of social media
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and of course the you know, the politicalization of certain
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: media outlets because they make money if you're upset. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really cool thing to say. It's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: just to kind of like connect it to what's going
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on in the world at this particular moment. We should
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: be open to everything.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Hm hmm. Absolutely, So, So here's here's the connection between
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: dog Man and Sasquatch. Then, so dog Man. Dog Man
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: has also been seen with the self illuminating eyes. So
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: if and only if this is a biological development that
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: has happened in Sasquatch and Sasquatch is a primate. I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: not saying that Sasquatch is a gorilla. We're primates too,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: So if Sasquatch is a primate and has developed this,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: then it stands the reason that dog Man has to
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: be a primate too if it has that same biological
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: or evolutionary development, because two separate species developing that same
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: trait at the same time doesn't make sense.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh okay, So you're saying, like it's like they're
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: like cousins of one another. Summer's down, summers down the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: branch of evolutionary scale theoretically, for example, you know, you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: can't have an orangutang drive a forklift, but they still
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: have a postable thumbs right right right a forkliff was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a really good grab. Robbery should have left too late.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm just gonna let it go. Tom, I'm
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: just gonna let it go now. Oh. I actually feel
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: like I should maybe be offended because I was a
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: forklift driver.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: For someone. Make that a shirt. Let's get the ia
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Jupiter having an orangutank driving a forklift.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I would love to tell you that it needs to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: have a T shirt on it. It says Robert on it,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's interesting, very interesting that the the the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that they would both kind of to kind of develop
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it and it wouldn't be on a separate path. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: if one's a primate, then therefore the other would be
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: then for also a private that's what you're trying to say. Yes,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and there's actually sport. There's actually some more stuff to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: support the idea of it being a primate. If you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: look at folklore, native American folklore. In uh yeah, in America.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Of course, with Native American you don't see much of
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: anything that has to do with like these werewolf things.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Now people people want to refer to skin walkers and
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. We that's a whole other subject about
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: why skin are different than that. What we do have
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: is a lot of what it ends up being referred
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to as devil monkeys. When you get up in the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Canada and you get out into the Appalachians and you
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: get into the Ozarks, there's a lot of talk of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: these things that they referred to as devil monkeys. Later on,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the original name was not devil monkeys. Each tribe had
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: their own name. And of course in North America, they're
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: not going to know what a monkey is because those
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: animals don't exist in North America, so they had a
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: different name to them. But and if you look at
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the descriptions, a lot of these dog men seem to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: have this big thick maine. Well, if you look at apes,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: or not apes, but monkeys, bigger monkeys, and you look
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: at baboons, there are a lot of there are a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: lot of baboons who have these big thick manes on
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: their heads. While while we're at it and hanging around
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: with the baboons. Have you ever seen the face of
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a baboon? It looks much more like a canine, true,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: than it does than it does an eight And they
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have huge canine teeth true.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: What about the what about the the large backsides? Yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robert, but it's been a long day. Man.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a very I love that. I love
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that because if you the bad boons, which they they
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they they're like some they look and they actually stand.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Up to yes, yes, which is where which is where
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you were leading me to, which is where I was
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: going to lead you to. As a matter of fact,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: is that they are much more able to travel on
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: all four and when they travel on all four, they
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: look like their front legs are longer, which is what
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is generally reported by dog Man eyewitnesses. Interesting, and then
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: they can stand up, and when they stand up, they
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: have a kiss. It's much more similar to ours than
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it is a dog's. Now, you hear a lot of
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: eyewitnesses talk about dog Man being built like Ronald Schwarzenegger. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: This dude. I'm I'm digging this, dude. I am picking
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: up what you're putting down right now. I never I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: never thought about that. I never thought about that. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: don't think I don't think anyone's brought that up. That
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: is such a it's such an acute observation, man, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: really I like that. And that's an interesting, very interesting, dude.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not done yet. If you dig around it and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you start looking at the tracks of some baboons, their
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: rear tracks are very much like a canine's track, well,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: their hands are much more like ours. You hear a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: lot of reports of dog man climbing up trees very
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: quickly or getting on the roof of a house, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and terrorizing somebody. Well, an ape or a monkey is
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: going to do that much easier than a canine is
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: going to be able to do that, right, right, m
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And skeletal skeletal structure, like we said, is just going
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: to be much easier to move from on four to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: upon two. Like we talked about the muscular cure with
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the test and it having a tail that is similar
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to a canid is really not that big of a stretch.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So we're probably looking at something that is in the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: baboon family or very close, but is much larger, is
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: probably around you know, six foot tall, seven foot tall,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Do we have I mean, okay, I know for example,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like you know, the Sasquatch, big foot, wild man, whatever
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you want to call them, have been seen in North
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: America as well as in Asia, even the Yallowey and Australia.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Is there any instances of say like dog men and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: other continents other than North America? Have you heard of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that right on its side?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And no.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: So I mean, if you look at folklore and you
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: go back into you know, stories of were wolves from
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: around the world and everything. If if we're going to
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: dig in and maybe they weren't always, you know, you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: kind of get in muddy waters whenever you get into
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that because you're digging into the stories of wolves and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: were wolves. Because we had a tenuous relationship as human
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: beings with wolves. You know, they would they would come
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in and they would take our sheep, our cattle, they
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: would take our children, they would take us, you know.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And then we also had a relationship where we befriended
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: some of them and we made them into our best friends,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and we've got our dogs now, so and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: then we have this love hate relationship with the idea
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of the were wolf. You know, we even today it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: really over romanticized, the idea of the were wolf. Uh,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And we see it a lot of times whenever we
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: talk about dog man, where things kind of get a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: little blown out of proportion as far as you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the relationship that an eyewitness might have with a with
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: a dog man, or you know, claim to have with
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a dog man. Right, so so you know, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: he's my best friend, and his name is Billy, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: he lives down the road, you know, you know that
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: So the wolves are scary, dude. I mean, there was
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a there was a story I'd probably heard on Rogan
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: where the Germans were you know, like in a trench
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: warfare I think with the Russians or the French, I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't remember which ones. And it kept having these things
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: where the wolves were coming into the trenches at night
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and taking out the soldiers. So they decided, Okay, we're
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: not going to like take out each other right now,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna like make a coalition and take out these
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: wolves and then we can get back to fighting. That's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: such a what a strange, strange paradox or what we
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: are as I'm really into World War two at the moment.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep keeps popping up with
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: my feed. But uh, that is a very another various
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: due observation, dude.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at Finland and the Netherlands around
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: the late eighteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds, there was
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: a really horrible outbreak of wolves taking children, I mean
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: just in front of their parents, coming up, grabbing the children,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: running off into the woods. And you know, some of
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: them were never found, and some of them were found
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: in pieces. So you know, you know, it's horrible, But
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I mean that's nature too. That's what we have to understand.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And you know, there's still a lot we don't understand about,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: you know, all the way from Sasquatch to dog Man
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to all these other things that we're talking about. But
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I think if we look at it biologically, and we
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: take each individual thing and we take it apart, and
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: we say, okay, what is the most likely thing to
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: happen here, and how do these things add up? I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: honestly think that dog man is a primate. I don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: think it's a dog or a caneid at all. Oh.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I've also heard there's different versions of it too, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: there's there a subspecies as as I can't think of
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the paranormal Bronxville paranormal. I can't think it was named
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Alfred Santa Rica. Yeah, yeah, and uh and I've also
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: heard it from b Moss where she was saying that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the one that she saw looked more like a looked
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: more like a pit bull, which would also think kind
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of because that means the noses then father in you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: from me from the side view, which would also then
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like maybe maybe there's just like you know, like when
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you have you know, you have stripe bass, and then
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you have where the line is solid, and then you
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: go into the lake Lake regions, you know what I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Like they'll have stripe bass too, but the line will
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: be broken. So it's kind of like just a little
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: slight variation when there may be isolate an isolated pocket
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: when they're separated from the rest. So that it's making
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense, man, I like it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always possibility that, you know, we have to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: take it into account. There can be subspecies that can occur,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: there are birth defects that can occur, there are things
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they can alter the DNA, like you know, maybe measles, mumps, rubella,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: things like that. They can actually affect primates that affect humans.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You know, if these are primeates and like we think
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that sasquatch might be, then we have to be aware
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: that all of these viruses that can affect us can
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: most likely affect them vice versa. The ones that can
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: affect them can affect us. So we had to be
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: kind of careful with all of this in here because
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more biologically at stake then we really
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: even give it credit for.
• 35:34
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• 35:38
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• 35:55
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• 36:03
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• 36:07
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• 36:12
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• 36:15
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• 36:17
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• 36:19
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• 36:21
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• 36:28
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• 36:30
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• 36:32
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• 36:36
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• 36:42
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• 36:45
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• 36:49
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• 36:53
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• 37:03
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• 37:07
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• 37:13
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• 37:15
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• 37:18
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• 37:22
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• 37:27
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• 37:34
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• 37:40
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• 37:44
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• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we start out we were doing it one
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: every week, and it got to be just a little
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a little hard on trying to pull in eyewitnesses and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: research and investigators, and you know, you know, I want
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you guys to have fun watch them, and I want
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to have fun making them, so I don't want the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: big headache in Quite frankly, I think we're doing just
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: fine doing it every other week. And if we get
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: to where we're monetized and we feel like everybody's really
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: wanting us to hit it every week, I'll gladly hit
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: it every week. We know we'll do we'll do something,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: We'll we'll put some more effort into it. But I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: think we're pretty good.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Go over, guys and subscribe to his channel. Let's see them.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: We go back and grab it real quick. Here it
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: is go that's the podcast on Facebook groups, and here
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is the YouTube channel.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Go there.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: If you like what Robert does it's a very very
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: very good host, very knowledgeable. Uh and as you can see,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: he's a very well spoken person, which is normally like
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a bad thing to say about somebody. But it's like
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a kind of a backhand remark. But it's really not
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: when it comes to which you do. And yeah, so
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that's that's also do so like it is true, dude,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like me. There's times where I'll put out a feeler.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll go, hey, is anybody out there? And
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes you know, I recently put out one. I try
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to book about a month to a month and a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: half advanced. That way, I save some space if somebody
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: has something they really need to urgently say and come on.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll move people very rarely though, and it's.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: A I do.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I was doing three for a minutary because I was
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: going to switch from the Wednesday live to a Friday live.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: That was too much. But two a week. It's still
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: hard to find some people sometimes, But like I think,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the more you do it, the more people will reach
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: out to you if they can connect with you. It's right,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it's not just about the story. It's not just about
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the guest or the host. It's about the feeling of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: being in the room with them at the same time.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's my opinion, and and I think you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: very good at that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So well, thank you. I appreciate that. I know that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you are. You know, you know, you've been doing this
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: for a while. You're doing great, Coral.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Let's let's not let's not butter each other's bread. But
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: so are you going to do an anniversary show?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I believe we probably will. We probably will.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I don't do a live, do a live and have
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: everyone on there and say hi, I think yeah, we'll
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: ford it. So what else would you like to talk
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: about to day? You've always got something up your sleeve.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I know you.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Oh lord, So let me let me touch on the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: podcast just a little bit. So what we try to do, well,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: what I try to do on the podcast, I generally
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I pre record ninety something percent of it. So what
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I do is I want to give people a chance
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: to come on if they want to. If they want
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: to remain anonymous, they can be anonymous. If they want
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: their name out there, I'll put their name out there.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And what I really try to do is let them,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll hand them the mic. Basically, I'll introduce
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: them I'll let them do the talking and I try
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to ask the questions that you would want to ask, hopefully,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and so you know, and if if somebody who is
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: really popular and you know, maybe has more to say,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: tell me, tell me on the channel, because I read
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and what I don't read, my wife
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: reads and tells me, hey, did you notice that you know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you know so and so is really popular. Maybe you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: should have them back And I'll do that. I'll turn
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: around and I'll have them back on there. And I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: not I'm not on there to judge whether something is
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: real or something is not. I'm there to help you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: tell your story and you know, so it's it's a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: place for you to sit there and you know, get
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: something off your test if you need to. You know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: we're there to help.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Well. You you have you know you have for example,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you'll have people who have you know, guests. You have
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to read your guests. That's super important. Yeah, some some guests,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: uh you know, just you just you just wind them
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: up and they just go. And there is some that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of pick and move and grab.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: But my favorite ones like you like yourself, where you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I can spit out a question, you answer it, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you throwing back at me, what do you think about this?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That those are my favorite just you know, personal thing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: But it's always you know, it's always interesting. But you
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: also have people on you know who like, for example,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you know you're more the scientific area. I'm sure there's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit of spiritual in the things that you do.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I would say ninety ninety five percent if I were
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to take a ball a ball park guests. And then
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: there's you know, people like my buddy Jim who's more
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: on the religious side of it. And and no one
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: has the right and or wrong answer. So I like
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to create a format in which everyone has a chance
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to speak and promote their ideas. And uh and uh,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's. I think it's super important that we
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: just you know, like we were saying to being, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that we don't paint ourselves into a corner. A lot
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of people say, you know, hey, if you do if
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you don't take a stance on something, then they want
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to do that camp thing. You're in this camp or
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you're in that camp. The only camp I'm in is
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: my camp. I'm in my own camp. And if you
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: guys want to come over and hang out with me.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: We can grow some sausages and you know, make some burgers.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But I think it's important to be open to all
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: all aspects of it because we really don't know, like
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: with any you know, scientific diffinity, whether what is what
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: these phenomenon are.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, absolutely, and people get wrapped up in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you know, the negative side of Whenever I mentioned science,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: science you have to remember is a method. It's it's
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: not anything anti something.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: What it is.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Science is a method as far as investigation and looking
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: into something. It's following critical thinking, whether it has to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: do with cryptids or it has to do with you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the paranormal, or it has to do with UFOs or
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: consciousness or you know, anything that you want to talk
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: about or reality, any of that stuff. It's it's a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: method of trying to understand something. So, you know, science
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: gets a bad rap, especially in the past ten years.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Science has got a horrible rap, you know, whenever the
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: CoV I D went around.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, good with good cause, man, I mean
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: people people were were kind of off put by it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And another thing I'm talking talking about science just for
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: a second, the method science is not is people think
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: science is its own subcategory. To me, science is philosophy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's a philosophical concept in which we then try to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: go back and reproduce the experiment in the way in
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: which it came out for somebody else. And it's always open,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you know, open to to being better, to get more
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: knowledge behind it. But what happens is that it has
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: been corrupted and and it now has become seen by
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: many as kind of an ivory tower situation, especially like
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: with the things that are happening in Egypt. You know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: they just they just took these scans supposedly, and they're
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: seeing things under the pyramids that are like mind blowing.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: But if you talk to the Egyptologists, which is a science,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: they're like, nope, it's just you know, it's just this
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and you can't go in and measure it and you know,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: have a nice day. So that's they're they're kind of
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: That's because they have allowed politics and science to merge,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and they never should have. We had the same problem.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Science and politics have no business. They're horrible bid pillows.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't know. You know, science is about
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: gathering information, gathering evidence, gathering facts and then trying to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: come up with a hypothesis or a theory, testing that
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: hypothesis and theory and seeing if it works if it
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't work. That's like I talked about the idea of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: dog man being a primate. I'm going where the evidence
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: is lead me. Does that mean I'm one hundred percent exactly?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Probably not, probably not, But you know, it's it's somewhere.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It's where we're going, you know, with with what we're
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: looking at. Could there be evidence that pops up tomorrow,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: actual physical evidence that pops up tomorrow that tells me
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm completely wrong. I'm okay with that. I'm absolutely fine
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: with that. I've got I've got no you know, no
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: stake in it. It's just something that we do, you know.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's it's a human it's a human nature.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I mean you can also take it from say, for me,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: like I'm a person of God. You know, there's and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: God is a very dirty word when it comes to,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you know, certain aspects of the way, Like for me,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: religion gets in between what I am and what I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: know to be for me, what I understand God to be.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of the same thing. It's like it's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: kind of a filtered it's filtered through some hierarchy. Well,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you know, especially talking about the Catholic Church. I'm not
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: picking on the Catholics. And individually I have you know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: my girlfriend's Catholic for example, and then we have a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: lot of philosophical discussions and you know, Christian discussions about things.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: But that happens a lot too, where it's filtered through
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the uh what would you say, the eight primate human type?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: You know, give me, gimme more and more and more,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, fight other groups and stuff like that too.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So for me, it's like you know me and you know,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: whatever that is, I guess people will call it spirituality.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the word I guess is the best
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: that best describes it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Right for me.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That's why I have a hard time with religion. It's like, yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I don't need to wear a robe, I don't need
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to swing things with smoke around it. I don't need
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: a special building to go to to have one with
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: with my feeling and connection with the other, you know
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So to to kind of lump those together.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It seems to be the problem too that it's basically politics.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean it is.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be careful, you know. Like I said,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I studied religion for a long time whenever I was younger. Uh, okay,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: every kinds of theology and different religions from around the world.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So the biggest problem that you have with a lot
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: of churches and their dogma is that they don't want
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you to be invested in God. They want you to
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: be invested in their church. So you know, don't don't
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: let the dogma get in the way of your karma,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: is what I try to say. Sometimes, you know that
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you want to you want to have a one on
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: one relationship with whatever you want to call it. Your
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: relationship with a higher divinity is your business and it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: nobody else's.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, they asked me, you know, have to ask me.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: You know what could you have that? You know. I'll
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: talk to my girlfriend, she's you know, Catholic, and you'll see,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Mexico, most people are Catholic, and you'll see
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: them drunk all the time. There's a liquor store in
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: every corner, and people are smoking, and there's some you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of violence sometimes and things in you
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Like I thought you guys were Catholic and I go
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: she goes, well, that has nothing to do with the religion.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, uh, you know me, I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: not religious. But am I more Catholic than they are?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just you know, with all
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the you know, with you know, without all the funny
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: hats and all the stuff?
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: You know, am I more?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Am I being more connect with God than they are?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: By being who I am? And she's like, yeah, i'd
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: have to say you are. And I go, well, there
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: it is. That's what I've been trying to tell you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And she goes, okay, I respect that. I respect you too.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you know what I mean. It's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: not tolerance. It's not you don't tolerate, tolerate the weather,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: you tolerate a bad Hamburger after a long night of
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: working or something like that. It's it's about trying to
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: find common ground with somebody, realizing that they are like
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you in a different flesh suit, and their experience to
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: them is, you know, subjective like yours is. So you
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: try to make their experience of you what you wish
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: them to do to yourself, which is the golden rule.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And I think if we did that. We we get
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: so much further in this world, man, so much further
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: in this world. And I've said this before, he too,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Like there's places here I've gone through certain they call
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: them Bodygos. Bodrigos is like a like a certain section
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: of the city what they call that in America suburb,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like a little suburb of the city. And there's places
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: here who have never seen a white guy before. And
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I'll go in there and I'll go to the store
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and you'll see that it'll be a mom and pop
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: store and I got three or four kids and ones
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: are there stocking shelves, and you know, they got their
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: kitchen in the backs connected to their house. And I'll
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: go in there and say hey, hello, Hi, and they'll
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: look at me and they'll be afraid. I'll go, what's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: your name? You know, everything in Spanish, and then I'll
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: leave out of there. My girlfriend, that's really sweetest. So
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I'm basically being the ambassador for my country at the moment.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I'm being the ambassador for someone they'd never met before,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: so that their first experience is not a negative experience
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: that they were This is a huge I'm tall compared
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to you know, I'm huge, you know, with blue eyes
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and like a big raymant is coming in. It scares
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the hell out of them. And I just I get
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: down low and I you know, and I go, hey,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and and uh it's uh, if we were
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to do that with everybody and see ever, you know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like someone's cat, grab their cat and take it to him. Hey,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I seen your cat on the road. And if everyone
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: did that for everyone, the world changes. It's just like that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But people don't want to there. There's They're only self
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: motivated by their own ego, which drives me up a wall.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robert out over your ranting.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: No, you're you're you're saying you're You went on the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: rant that I would have gone on. So I just
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: went along with you.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Oh mantus alien. Soy over here, having a
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: discussion about mantis aliens on the side, shade vikings here,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: high shade biking. Justin's here, everyone's over here, killing matches here,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: under fire ninety seven, all the usual subspects here today.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: All right, man, shit, all right, Robert deflor is yours again.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I keep interrupting.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: You're you're all right, Tom, You're all right. So a
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: lot of the stuff on our channel is generally has
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: to do with cryptids, so we look at things like
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: big but there's a whole lot of dog Man stuff
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: on there. So if you like dog Man and you
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like dog Man eyewitnesses or people who you know, study
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: or research that, we definitely got a lot of that
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: going on. It seems to be the hot topic, you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: in the past five six years, and it's probably going
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: to continue. But we do a lot of the you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the sasquatch and all the other stuff. I'd like to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: get some more of the paranormal stuff going on. Definitely
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: more of the UFO and you know, stuff like that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: So if you if anybody out there listening and your eyewitness,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you know, if you're an eyewitness too, and or study
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: or investigator or researcher into any of those, and you
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: want to hop on a podcast and you want to talk,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I'm there. I'm there.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: So just but you can go through my catalog. I mean,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a ton of people who want
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: to get this story out there. I can't think of
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: his name right now, but he uses a pseudonym. He
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: used the Spanish studentom I can't think of his name
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: right now here he is. I was going to ask
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: how to get contacted. Just go ahead and write them up,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: drop my name, say hey, Tom sent me to you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and said, you know, you know you would be probably
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: willing to come on the show. Would you'd like to
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: do that? And I think I can't think of his
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: name right now. He uses two different pseudonyms. There's the
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: one he uses and then there's the one on his
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: name over here that he comes in sometimes. If you
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: guys can know what I'm talking about, and he's a
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: former military guy and he's just like, I've seen this
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: thing and I don't know what the hell it was,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and he you know what I mean. And people can
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: come on anonymous, I'd imagine too, or like write you
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, what do you think about this?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: And and I think you would be very responsible that
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And I've told people before if you're not,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: if you feel like you don't want to come on
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the show, and maybe you want your eye witness story told,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: if you really want it done that way, I can
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: work up a whole video on the story being told,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you take a look at it. You
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: tell me if that's okay with you, and then I'll
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: put it on YouTube. You know, that's if that's what
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you want. If you don't want to get on area
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: and you don't want your voice on there or whatever,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: and you want it done in AI or you want
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: me to you know, read your story, I'll do whatever
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: you want. You know, I just far to say it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Goes yeah, because there's still an astigmatism around this, or
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: it's not a stigmatism, that's an I think stigmatism. There's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: still a stigmatism around it, especially I would imagine in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the part of the country where you're from, because uh,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you know that's you know, very religious based still and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: there's a very strong family and there's a very you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: like you know, the head of the family, and you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: got to go out in the hard work, so to say,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you've seen something like this, it's kind of hard.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's the same for me. If you
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: guys want to come on anonymously or you know where
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: we just hear your voice and we you know, you
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: can block out your screen. We can do that as well.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: If you want to send it to me or Robert
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: or whoever it is. There's you know, there's plenty of
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: good podcasters magical or Magical Journey podcasts or the Fishery
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Spams podcast. You guys can go ahead and do that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: as well. Or and if you want to tell us
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: we are here for me, I would say we I'm honestly,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: we're to provide a space in which those things can
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: be spoken, because you're not crazy. It's more it's it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I would I would have to say, especially when it
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: comes to paranormal and even to a certain extent UFO,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it's more common than you would actually think, especially the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: paranormal especially.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's weird man. Oh yeah, I've experienced paranormal things
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: my entire life. I've had stuff with the hat man.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I've had you know, oh yeah remember that, Yeah, go
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: back and check out that episode, guys.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've had, you know, stuff with other experience.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty spiritual type person, so I mean, whenever I
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: go out into the woods, I'm one of those people
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: who talks to the woods. When I go out there,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is why I'm here, this is what
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for, this is what I want to do,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm not here to hurt anybody. Or hurt anything.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: So you know, I try to thank you so much, Saviking,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the for for helping me out. Man,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I really really appreciate that. Uh here's the story, guys,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I haven't even told I was this is this will
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: happened to me two days ago. Robert, I was at
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a at my boss's workshop. He they went down to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the peninsula today or yesterday, and he was like, do
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you want to go? And I'm like, no, I have
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a podcast with my buddy Robert, I'm not going. Plus,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: it's a wild place. This is a place where I
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: had like a little bit of lost time. I feel
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: everything went bad, but that's kind of you know, but
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: this happened to me. So I'm welding at the same
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: place I seen the smoke riser from the floor in
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the corner. I'm welding, and I'm sitting at this one
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: point I got my I wasn't welding at this particular time.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I was using a wirebrush, cleaning off an old gate
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: getting ready to be repainted. So I'm sitting there and
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I swear something it felt like something grabbed. I was
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: first sleep short. Something grabbed my sleeve and I looked down.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: There's like my keys were hanging down by this sod.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting on a chair like as I'm doing this,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and uh and I stopped for a second and I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: recognized it. Because here's a question I guess I have
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: since you've been doing the podcast, because this is something
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: that's happened to me. Do you have there has there
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: been an uptick in your paranormal experiences?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know if I would
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: call it an uptick. I don't know, because I'm I'm
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: fairly aware of things that go on around me. I've
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: always been that way. I don't I wouldn't say. I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say that I've had an uptick as far as
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: that goes. But apparently you have, so okay, I mean
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: because I was speaking.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been speaking. I spoke with I'm gonna have
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Tommy Callum on I hope all the live but he's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: in England and he has a different work schedule. But
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: you will see a show come out where he's he's
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: saying the same thing is happening to him where like
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: like ever since I started the show, you know, I'll
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: see shadow creatures your set whatever that is in the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: corner once in a while, and then I'll be order
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: three knock, three knocks on the door. I hear that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: once in a while, and I'll go, because I know
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. I go, No, you have to leave.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But I think I think it felt because I can't
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: think of anything else that would have been. It felt
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: like something just tugged on my ship while I'm in
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the middle of it. Always seems mentioned that it happens,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and we need to pay more attention to it. It's
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: just my little thing at the moments.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you. People do
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: need to be people do need to be more aware
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: of stuff like that. That's I will say, I've had
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: some more crazy dreams lately than I've had in the past,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: you know, a few years or whatever. So yeah, very
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: very unsettling. I would say.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: We're getting older too, though, you know we're getting older.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably just a pineal gland firing out,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: some diamelthal trip to mean, you know, getting you always
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: thought about that sleep is just like practice for death,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: but it's more a communic concept. It's like one day
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be an expert at this. Yeah, yeah, Robert,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on today, my friend.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. I always love your like, uh,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: every time I get to talking to you, it's all
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: always it's you always surprise me, like with the Baboon
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: thing that that was great. Uh, please do my favorite.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Tell everyone about your book one more time. Tell us
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: where we can find you, and tell them where they
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: can like and subscribe to you a channel so that
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you get the motivation, which you don't need anymore, but
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: that a little bit extra helps so they can see
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: more of your more what you're doing.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So if you go to Amazon, you can find
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: my book there. It's Monstrous Monstrous Arkansas, Monstrous Field Guide. Anyway,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: put Monstrous Fuel Guide in there, Monstrous Arkansas. You'll find
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: it on there. And I think it runs paperback. I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: think it's like fifteen dollars, and I think you can
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: pay a little bit more than you can get the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: hardcover one. If you're a if you're one of those
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: people that just absolutely loves books like me, you're like, well,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: it's not a real book unless it's hardcover. So I've
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: got I've got both. If you are interested in this,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff and you want to join us. Yeah,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: there it is with the real name of it, Monstrous
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Arkansas Field Guide to the Unknown in the Sterious Beings
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: in the Natural State. So yeah, that's a big old mouthful,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: isn't it.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: So? Anyway then if it's quite a subtitle, that's why
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it's a fuel guide.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: All right. So here the interested if you're interested.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: There he is. I'm sorry, the gentleman that I was
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: just speaking about. Uh, I think it's I like, I like, like,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: please if you want to go into a good show.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: My friend talk to Robert. Write him. Where was his
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: email at, Pam? Could you grab his email for me.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you in contact with him. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: guess his name was Pablo or I can't think. I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: can't think what he calls himself. But this is the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: gentleman I was talking to you about, is I like?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I is his name? I think this is the gentleman
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He he was on my show and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: he has had some he's had a big foot experience
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: as well as what he thinks is a thank Thank you, Pam,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: thank you very much to me. Right there it is,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: write him? Do me a favorite Pancho. That's his name, Pancho,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: not Pancho Villo, but Pancho. That's what his pseudonym is. Yeah, Pancho,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: do me a favorite and write Robert if you'd like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: to come on the show. Robert is an excellent host
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and he would be very good at getting your information out.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robert, it was perfect timing and I didn't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: mean to cut you off.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: You're okay, Tom, Yeah, you gotta strike while the ironst sometimes.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, keep chopping with it. That's what
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: we're doing.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: So if if you like that kind of stuff as
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: far as talking about you know what we're talking about
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: on here, and you're on Facebook, join us on the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Facebook group Monstrous the Podcast or Monstrous Facebook Group. I've
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: got both of them. I've got Monstrous the Podcast, which
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: is a link for the show that's over on Facebook,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: or you can join the Facebook group and we start
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: off as Monstrous Arkansas and then we expanded past that. Uh,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: look for us on YouTube. Look for us on Rumble.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Remember on Rumble, I gotta update everything so everything's up
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to date. On YouTube. We are on Spotify. There is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit on Spotify. I'm way behind on Spotify,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: you can find us on TikTok, you can find some
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: stuff on the Instagram. We're all over the place. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: so if you want to recount to us, recount to us.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Love to have you on the show. If you just
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: want to watch the show, join up. We are doing
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: memberships and we'd love to have you subscribe. We're trying
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to get monetized too, and if you get us monetized,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: help us to get monetized so that we can put
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: out more great stuff that you know for you to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: listen to.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And how far you away? How far are you away
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: from being monetized?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: We are almost right at eight hundred subscribers, so at
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: one thing.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Not that far.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: No, No, not far at all, No, maybe.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Two three months, it's most a month, guys. Let's go
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: ahead and good amount there, guys. Let's get Robert up there,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and then whenever you get sup dude, make sure when
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: you get that out, make sure you let me know
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: so we can put it on our channel to ohay, absolutely,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: we celebrate everyone together the same, dude. Robert, thank you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: so much for coming on today. I appreciate it. Thank
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: you for accepting an invitation. And it's always an open
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: door for you to come back and talk about whatever.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: We can talk about making a peanut burn jelly sandwiches.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I couldn't care less, man. It's always a pleasure to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: talk with you.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Tom. I enjoyed it every single time we talk. Brother.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: You take care.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, I will just hold on one second. I want
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: to do it right from here.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I like to do it.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: This is the way I used to bump people up,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: but this is better. So you guys will listen to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the channel. If you enjoy it, please do my favorite
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: likely to subscribe. Please follow me on Rumble, and please
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: follow me on Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. If
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: you want to catch yourself a T shirt. All that's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: over there. I got some new stuff that came out.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I've been really hitting it hard, trying to get away
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: from this physical labor and get into what I'm good
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: at is speaking. I'm not very good at writing. Maybe
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Robert can help me us. I can write my own
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: book one day, be more of a memoir of a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: crazy man or something of that nature. But I appreciate
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: it nonetheless. And one more time, Robert, thank you so
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: very much for coming on the show. And remember, guys,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: we are the guy. We are aware. Love you all,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: munn
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: SA