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Vikings Tailgate: Detroit Lions Game Review, Navigating The NFC North - Episode 42 · The Vikings Tailgate

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  Speaker 1: another episode of the Tailgate. It's a short week. Your
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  Speaker 1: Vikings are playing the Rams on Thursday night, right after
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  Speaker 1: a difficult loss to the Lions. We decided to instead
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  Speaker 1: of chasing down a Rams fan on short notice, we
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  Speaker 1: would do a follow up episode to probably the biggest
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  Speaker 1: and best game in the NFL so far this year
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  Speaker 1: and look forward as well. We brought Zach Martina back
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  Speaker 1: to break down the thirty one to twenty nine Lions
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  Speaker 1: win and talk about a little bit of stuff in
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  Speaker 1: the future. I think you guys are gonna love it,
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  Speaker 1: and hey, please support Zach go see him do some
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Enjoy the episode Everybody and the Game. This week,
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  Speaker 1: the Rocket Ricketts, I mean your Minnesota Vikings have lost
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  Speaker 1: their first game of the year against what some people
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  Speaker 1: believe to be the best team in the NFC, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. We brought Zach Martinez back,
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  Speaker 1: no pomp, no circumstance on the introduction here, just Zach
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  Speaker 1: is back. His team won. I'm bitter and frustrated. Zach,
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you.
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  Speaker 2: I am not bitter and frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: That's you know, That's not what I was going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you. You know, I was going to ask you
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  Speaker 1: something different, and I was leaving a space in there
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  Speaker 1: due to my anger.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'm sorry. I just I misread that. I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, you totally misread it. So my There's been
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  Speaker 1: kind of two schools of thought about the Vikings loss
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  Speaker 1: to the Lions on Sunday. One is, hey, we went
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  Speaker 1: toe to toe with the one of the best teams
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, probably the best team in the NFC.
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  Speaker 1: We were right there till the end. We almost had
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  Speaker 1: it right. And then the other school of thought is
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  Speaker 1: it was closer than it seemed. If we don't get
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  Speaker 1: that scoop and score it's they might push it out
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  Speaker 1: like it really wasn't as competitive as the tightly contested
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  Speaker 1: end made it seem as a lion's feil. And on
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  Speaker 1: the winning side, how did you see it? How did
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  Speaker 1: you receive the Vikings performance?
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  Speaker 3: I saw it more as the former. That was the
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  Speaker 3: entire game. I mean, first of all, credit to Vikings fans.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching at home, and that stadium was insane. That
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  Speaker 3: stadium was so insane at the beginning of the game
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  Speaker 3: that I mean I looked at my wife and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, this is gonna be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: It was. I mean, you could feel it. I could
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  Speaker 2: feel it in Michigan. It was crazy. So credit to
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings fans. They came out cool.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I love your compliment on our stadium. Guy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a bad mood. I'm in such a bad mood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in such a bad it's.
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  Speaker 2: The state of the art. You guys made a good investment.
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  Speaker 2: You guys made a good investment in that state.
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  Speaker 1: I know what you're doing. Everybody thinks Oh, that is
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  Speaker 1: very nice of Zact, But I know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Just make your damn point. Quit buttering me up with golf.
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  Speaker 1: Dam that sure is a loud stadium. You got there, Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me cut you down. Would you like to Would
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  Speaker 1: you like to talk about the juicy lucies in town?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm still recovering from the one I had last man.
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  Speaker 3: But what I will say is that thing you guys
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  Speaker 3: do before the game, with like this whole clappy thing,
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  Speaker 3: I will that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I will drive to Michigan and throw you in a
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  Speaker 1: great lake.
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  Speaker 3: My choice, though, I get to choose the lake. I
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  Speaker 3: would say that it was the The game was very,
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  Speaker 3: very entertaining. I was never I was never ever comfortable
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  Speaker 3: the entire game. That seemed like two teams that were
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  Speaker 3: playing for something that wasn't, in my opinion, one team
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  Speaker 3: that was far and away better than the other team.
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  Speaker 3: I know you mentioned that scoop and score and things change.
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  Speaker 3: But on the flip side, you know, yes, the call
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  Speaker 3: was right on the Brian Branch stripsack. I'm sorry, the
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  Speaker 3: strip and run into the end zone. Yes he was out,
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  Speaker 3: but they're like, oh, it was closer than it was.
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  Speaker 3: The ball was moving, when was it moving? Like that
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  Speaker 3: could have gone a different way as well, and then
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  Speaker 3: it's a then it's a total blowout.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was just I think it was a
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  Speaker 3: very competitive game. I was not comfortable even. I mean
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  Speaker 3: when they at that the end of the game, when
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  Speaker 3: they're like, no, we're gonna have one second on the clock. Still,
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  Speaker 3: I was like I was at that Thursday night game
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  Speaker 3: where Aaron Rodgers through the Hail Mary for Green Bay
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  Speaker 3: and beat the Lions like a sixty five yard thing
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  Speaker 3: with one second left. And I mean there is a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of PTSD from that. So I was not
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  Speaker 3: comfortable until that game.
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  Speaker 1: Read Zeros, I think you said it right. It felt
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  Speaker 1: like two teams playing for something. And this has been
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  Speaker 1: my talking point, like everybody's really jacked about this defense,
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  Speaker 1: and I am as well. Here's ing. I'm a guy
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  Speaker 1: who knows nothing about anything, but if you look globally
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  Speaker 1: at the NFL, dominant defenses are never truly dominant anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how the league works. Once you get to
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, if you are gonna win three or four
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  Speaker 1: games against great football teams, somebody's gonna put a thirty,
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  Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty eight on you. The Cleveland Browns, they
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  Speaker 1: go to the playoffs last year as this vaunted unreal
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  Speaker 1: defense and CJ. Stroud throddles them. If you think of
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  Speaker 1: the teams that are in the upper crest of the league, right,
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  Speaker 1: you think about I mean, even though the Texans lost
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  Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Packers, but you think about the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: You think about the Chiefs, right, you think about the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: You think about the Lions, the Niners who are down
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  Speaker 1: this year. But you think about the Eagles, you think
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  Speaker 1: about the Packers. These are all teams that on any
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  Speaker 1: given week, they have a lot of weapons and they
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  Speaker 1: can put points up. I'm not gonna say they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it constantly, but the idea that you're gonna walk
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  Speaker 1: into the NFL playoffs and hold three or four of
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  Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL under twenty four points
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  Speaker 1: is complete and utter nonsense. And so to me, what
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  Speaker 1: a great defense is is it's a defense that holds
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  Speaker 1: teams in the regular season most of the time, has
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  Speaker 1: its lapses. But then when you get in one of
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  Speaker 1: those situations where you're gonna give up a thirty plus,
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  Speaker 1: like the Vikings did on Sunday. Can they make the
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  Speaker 1: crucial stops in the crucial moments, right, you get the
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  Speaker 1: big stop early, you get the lead, but then after
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  Speaker 1: giving up those four straight scoring drives, they have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of crucial stops, including the scoop and score, But
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  Speaker 1: I think just as important to stop after the scoop
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  Speaker 1: and score. So that was, Yeah, that was a situation.
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  Speaker 1: Like anybody who had any problem with the defense, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see it. You're playing the best offense in
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  Speaker 1: the league and you go in there and with all
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  Speaker 1: the money on the line, scoop and score to take
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  Speaker 1: the lead, and here, offense, here's the ball with four
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  Speaker 1: minutes left. Like that is a super Bowl defense. To me,
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  Speaker 1: that's what a super Bowl defense will will do in
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  Speaker 1: a big time playoff game. And I think the tough
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  Speaker 1: thing is you get that two point conversion or you
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  Speaker 1: you know, you complete that, you know that flood concept
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  Speaker 1: on third down and it's we're just having different conversations here,
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  Speaker 1: but absolutely, you're right. It didn't feel like a game
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  Speaker 1: that truly truly meant something.
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  Speaker 3: And we yes, we're talking that. You know, the Lions
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  Speaker 3: put up thirty one points, but it's not you guys
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  Speaker 3: put up twenty nine and had you gone for the
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  Speaker 3: pat or thing's gone different. Obviously you had to go
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  Speaker 3: for the two. I get that. But if the Pats there,
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  Speaker 3: like you put up a thirty banger too, the offense,
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  Speaker 3: like your offense can put up points.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that the offense put up twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's always the caveyat.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you take that regard, you take seven away
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  Speaker 3: from us, and we put up twenty four because Brian
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  Speaker 3: Branch had that Brian Ranch had that pick.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, but I thought he scored and he did.
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  Speaker 1: They reverse the scoop and scored.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's remembered, but I will say, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: did feel like they It did feel like they played.
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  Speaker 2: Both played for something that was an intense game the
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  Speaker 2: entire time.
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  Speaker 3: That was good football. I've never seen pre snap looks
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  Speaker 3: like I did on your defense.
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  Speaker 1: Even though it didn't work out. You know, the thing
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  Speaker 1: before is it like we're gonna fight fire with fire.
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  Speaker 1: We're they're gonna come at us defensively, We're gonna Obviously
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  Speaker 1: that did not pan out. Jared Goff had a hell
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  Speaker 1: of a day. But the argument is maybe it did
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  Speaker 1: pan out because it was only thirty one points and
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  Speaker 1: you got the stops that allowed you the chance to win.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know with all those weapons how consistently,
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  Speaker 1: how consistently you can stop a team like that. But
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  Speaker 1: what the hell is happening? Like, I know Jared Goff,
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  Speaker 1: it worked, and you're like, oh, his career is resurrected,
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  Speaker 1: But now it's like shifting into something different. Were like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell? What was the stat you told me
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  Speaker 1: before the show?
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  Speaker 3: In the last four games, the Lions as a team
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  Speaker 3: have scored eighteen touchdowns and in that amount of time
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  Speaker 3: they have only had sixteen incompletions.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the most bonkers things I've heard in Earth.
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  Speaker 2: Only teams in the only team since the merger to
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  Speaker 2: do something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I is there. So what's the flaw with Jared Goff?
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  Speaker 1: What's the thing? Because here's the thing. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to sit there and believe that you believe like I
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel the way the Chiefs fans do when
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is out there. So going the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the season, what's the what's the thing that's in the
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  Speaker 1: back of your brain that you go if this happens
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  Speaker 1: with Jared Goff, We're in trouble. What's the It's clearly
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  Speaker 1: not blitzing him. No, because it's not just us. He's
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  Speaker 1: like the best quarterback against the blitz in the whole league.
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  Speaker 1: What is the concern?
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  Speaker 3: It's not just Jared Goff. We have at this point
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  Speaker 3: undeniably the best line in the NFL. We have a
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  Speaker 3: top five run blocking grade. We have a top five
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  Speaker 3: pass blocking grade. I think we're the only line in
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  Speaker 3: the league that has that right now.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when that draft happened and everybody wanted
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  Speaker 1: you guys to get Jamar Chase and you and I
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  Speaker 1: were texting and you got Piney Sewell and we were
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  Speaker 1: we were both so pumped for you, Dude, I would
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  Speaker 1: because I thought I thought he'd just be a Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer on a garbage team for twenty years. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know this was happening. I would have been less
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: pumped if I knew this was about to happen. But man,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about an all time decision. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: that decision is chief amongst the reasons you guys are where, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we were texting about it. I was on
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  Speaker 3: stage at go bananas. When that draft pick came in,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like doing live. I was not paying
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  Speaker 3: attention to the set. I was paying attention to the draft,
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  Speaker 3: and when that came in, I had to stop and
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  Speaker 3: I had to convince Cincinnati fans why this was so
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  Speaker 3: good for Detroit and they didn't care. Sure, I had
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: to dig out of a hole, but I did it
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  Speaker 3: because it was that kind of love for that kind
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  Speaker 3: of pick. But what it was, what I was saying,
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  Speaker 3: is like, yes, our line is great. We do not
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  Speaker 3: have Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes I think plays very much.
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  Speaker 3: So he knows the game obviously, but he plays on instinct,
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  Speaker 3: he plays on athleticism. He can move like Jared Goff
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  Speaker 3: has shown to be a far more analytical quarterback than
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  Speaker 3: I ever thought. You know, he got such a bad
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  Speaker 3: rep in LA and then he got here the first
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  Speaker 3: year and Detroit was not happy.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was. I was. I was happy.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this guy went to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford never had won a playoff game. Like this
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  Speaker 3: guy went to the super Bowl. Let's not let's not
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  Speaker 3: burn the house down, okay, And then all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden he gets that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: That's I'm gonna tell you. I don't admire that about you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's really dumb reasoning. I hate that about
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  Speaker 1: you that you thought that I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Remember what the Lions were before, Like I had to
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  Speaker 3: look on the right side.
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  Speaker 1: It was Matt Stafford's I just this is how anybody
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  Speaker 1: who wonders like the type of people we bring on
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  Speaker 1: the show, but you specifically, if you wonder, is like,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: are these people truly die hard fans? Like the fact
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: that because I don't think you're making stuff up for
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  Speaker 1: show's sake right now, I do think that's real.
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  Speaker 2: I would never sign.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that when you traded a Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Famer for a guy who had gotten worked in the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl by Bill Belichick, you were like, it's simple football,
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  Speaker 1: myth brother. One of them has been to the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl and one of them hasn't. It wasn't wild, but
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  Speaker 1: I do, unfortunately believe it.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't that Sack.
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  Speaker 3: I was obviously, I was very intrigued by the two
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  Speaker 3: first round draft picks that we were going to get.
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  Speaker 3: I could not believe that that first year the Rams
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  Speaker 3: were so bad and our second draft pick was that high,
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  Speaker 3: like it worked out great. But when Jared Goff came yes,
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  Speaker 3: I was bummed that Matthew Stafford was leaving because he
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  Speaker 3: was built Ford tough, all right, that guy he played hurt.
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  Speaker 3: I mean those soundbites of him when he's all jacked up.
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  Speaker 2: The city loved him absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I was just saying people were ready to do the
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  Speaker 3: nineteen sixties Detroit Riots again when Jared Goff came in,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, let's let's not strike the matches
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  Speaker 3: quite yet. However, I will say we had I think
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  Speaker 3: that was yeah, that was Campbell's first year and we
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: brought Anthony Lynn in as our offensive coordinator and that
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  Speaker 3: was not That was no bueno. It did not work
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  Speaker 3: out well. Mid season we had a party to the
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  Speaker 3: ways and Ben Johnson came up to start calling the plays.
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  Speaker 2: However, Dan Campbell that year reserved the right.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna call these plays, all right, why
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  Speaker 3: don't you take a shot, Like he really tried.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson out. Then that second year, where Ben.
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  Speaker 3: Johnson was the first first year all season coordinator, you
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  Speaker 3: could tell that he and Goff spent the entire offseas
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  Speaker 3: together building an offense and it didn't click.
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  Speaker 2: Right away.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't click until the second half of that second season.
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  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, we're putting up points. All of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, Amen, Rossi, and Brown looks like, how did
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  Speaker 3: you find this guy in the fourth round? So I
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  Speaker 3: think what it comes down to is, yes, the line
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  Speaker 3: is giving him time. They're giving him, they're giving him
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  Speaker 3: a chance to make good decisions while being blitzed. But
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  Speaker 3: I think it is that the offensive coordinator is smart
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  Speaker 3: enough to have built an offense around the talents of
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  Speaker 3: an individual, and it is allowing that player to shine.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I'm looking at your guys' schedule because like, I
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  Speaker 1: need to look forward. That's who I am. I have
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  Speaker 1: to look forward. Your next three games are interesting. Our
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: next three games are interesting. You have you go Titans
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  Speaker 1: and then at Packers, at Texans. Right and late in
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  Speaker 1: the season, you have Bills and Niners, which normally you'd
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: be sitting here with like the Ayuke injury, with all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, you'd be like, well, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna matter. That division is not a
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  Speaker 1: very good football division right now, and who knows if
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  Speaker 1: that'll matter. But these next three weeks are going to
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. You have this opportunity if you put the
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  Speaker 1: Titans down and you go into these two really tough
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  Speaker 1: back to back matchups Packers Texans, which Joe, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we won both of those games. But if you if
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  Speaker 1: you get those it gets really really fun for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But the Vikings having played those guys, I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: coming in the next three. I think that this week
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  Speaker 1: what an interesting testament to Oh hey, they just posted
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  Speaker 1: the Anthony Edwards justin Jefferson redo of the Moss Garnett picture.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, tonight is the Timberwolves tip off, so it
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  Speaker 1: is very cool. It is very cool. I don't generally
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  Speaker 1: like stuff like that. Zach, I will throw your whole
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: house in a great lake. Don't condescend me. But if
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  Speaker 1: you can get this Rams game on a quick turn on,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is people are gonna think I'm an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: This is probably the biggest game of the season because
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  Speaker 1: you came out and Zach, excuse me, Jay is laughing
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  Speaker 1: at me like I'm an idiot. I'll throw him in
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  Speaker 1: the lake too. Honestly, I'm ready to retire.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds like you're ready to retire a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then retire myself. It's gonna be it's gonna
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: be a double retire side retire situation. Zach.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like we all need a bath at this point.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Stop stop, stop both of you. Stop it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Let me.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I think this RAMS game
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: is the most important game of the season. Now, there
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: might be a more important game in the future. But
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: no one expected this team to be anything. They were
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: slotted for fifth in or excuse me, fourth in the division.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I think some people probably hadn't fifth. That's how mean
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: people were beingto this football team.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: There's only four teams.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I understand. That's the joke.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Zach.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, Zach, I'll set your car on fire.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I was just questioning your math skills because I believe
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: your predict prediction for the game was one hundred and
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: twenty nine to six based on six safety.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, this is why we don't do review shows. This
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is why it's a preview show and not a review show.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But so the team comes out, they go five and zero,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: they knock off three teams that everybody think are contenders,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's this like, oh my gosh,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: who are they? And the interesting thing for me is
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're surprised by it. I don't think
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players are surprised, but I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: think they're like, yeah, man, this is who we thought
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: we were. And one thing I heard about in the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: locker room after the game is they were pissed. They
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: were They genuinely took that game extremely hard, which continues
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to tell me that this team. I often think that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: players especially really know who they are basically in the preseason,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: right they know they see the guys on the field.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It's the funniest thing about drafting. You know, you get
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: these guys in you draft a quarterback or receiver and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you're like, I think they're gonna make it, Like they
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: don't look good now, Like there's this whole narrative. But
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I think every player, like two weeks into training camp,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: is like that guy doesn't have it. Yep, be never
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: gonna have it. You can sell it to the fans,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: but it's not there. Players know, especially veteran teams. This
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is the fifth oldest team in the NFL, so I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: think they knew who they were coming into this year.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And you get this first loss, and it's the first crack,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and you can't go lose this Rams game. You can't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: be slat like. This is the sort of game like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: if you are who you thought you were and who
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world didn't think you were. This
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: is the game on a short turn on where you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: have to go. That sucked. We should have won that game.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: We let it slip through our hand. We were sloppy
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: at times and we had the opportunities and we blew it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Now we are going to go into a bad RAMS
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: team and we are going to execute, and we are
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: going to defeat them, and then we're just gonna keep moving.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Like to me, locker rooms are weird places, and they
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: build upon moments. If you go in and you let
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this one slip and play bad, it can really seed
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: some doubt. But you go in and do what you're
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, and then you have Colts, Jags, Titans. Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it gets really, really interesting, and our two teams might
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: be on a collision path towards the end of the year.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I do think that we are on a collision I mean,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: anytime you see a divisional game in the last week
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: of the season, there are certain butterflies that come with
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: it to any football fan, like that could be.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: For the division.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I am not surprised at all that your locker room
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: was upset after that loss.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: The way that both teams.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Played, like I said earlier, like they were playing for something,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and when you don't get the thing that you've worked
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: so hard for, yeah, you're gonna be upset. I agree
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: with you also that you gotta win this uh, this
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: RAMS game. You've got to win this RAMS game based
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: on I think to get.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Not not not buy back in.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the phrase would be, but like
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: just to get that motor going back in the right direction.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I will also, as a Lions fan, just let you
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: know that whoever the Lions play the next week, that
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: team has lost because they are And this is what
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: analysts say from the other the other markets, Arizona, even
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, who beat us Lions, beats you up.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You're sore and you're on a short week.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I yeah, they're unlike the other football teams who hit
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you when you play against what they don't.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, you've seen Dan Campbell.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You've smelled his chew from watching a press conference through
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: your internet connection. They different, all right, this team's all
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: about grit mc DC baby, But I do I do
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: think that this short week is not great on That's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the only thing I don't like that you guys are away.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I will say this far and away. Minnesota is my
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: second favorite team in the division. Oh cool, So I'm
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: pulling for you guys on Thursday, I'm pulling for.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not pulling for you on Sunday at all. And also,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: let me tell you something that's cool.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Why would you're probably still bitter about last night.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It's not even just about being bitter. I'm just not
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: gonna pull for the other team that's tied with us
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: in the division. I want you to drop a big Well,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're not.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Tied in the division. We are first in the division
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: based on statistics.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I want you to drop a big, rotten performance against
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the Titans. And I want you to be like, did
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we lose to Mason Rudolph. I didn't know he was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in the league. That's what i'd like. Let me and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the reason that you're getting a little attitude from me
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: right here is I'm you know, I want I've pulled
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: up our schedules, what we're doing the show, and that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: put me on ESPN dot com, my former haunt, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I sure shouldn't read stuff on ESPN dot com my
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: former haunt. And I'm very angry, but like I got,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, why would you ever read a power rankings? Ever?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: They're only power rankings are only built so that people
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: have something like that, talking heads have something to talk about.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not an idiot, but like I was, like, Wow,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Zach's babbling on about caring about us and that we're
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the second team. He's over there lying. Why don't I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: check into where the U is lying? Don't you're fired?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: You're fired? Jay? Jay? Can we cut his? Uh? Can we?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Can we cut him from his payroll of zero dollars?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Zero dollars strike season? So the the way they did
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it this week they did the power rankings and then
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: they listed who's the young riser on your team? Who's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the young star on the rise? Who's the young riser? Uh?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So the Detroit Lions are number two. Who do you
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: think the young riser on your team is? Who have
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: they penned as the young riser?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I would say Brian Branch? But does it happen?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's Brian Branch? Correct, it is Brian Branch. Now here's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: my problem. Where do you think the Minnesota Vikings Land.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: After that game.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, and I'm not looking, I would
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: say top twelve.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Zach, I am going to jay, I'm never doing a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: review show ever again. Top twelve, our one losses to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the number two team. We're six. I'm pissed about six.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: You somehow made me more angry then, And maybe that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a friendship thing. Maybe you're like, I'm gonna pull say
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: out of this moment he's in where he's over spiraling
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: on his side monitor about some rankings that don't matter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe if I say something insane like top twelve, he'll
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: respond to that, and then that'll he'll be like, oh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: now I'm back in reality. We're six, and oh, by
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the way, we beat the number seven team and the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: number five team and our only losses to the number
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: two team. So yeah, it totally makes sense that the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: four and two Baltimore Ravens and the five and two
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Packers should be above us. Great call.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know that the Packers should be.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens are dismantling people of late, Like, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: don't know, man, do.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: You think Derrick Henry rushes for two thousand yards? My
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: brother Greg has heavily invested in him getting two thousand
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: yards because, as he framed in a text or phrased
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in a text, I am preparing for the inevitable heartbreak
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of being a Minnesota Vikings fans by putting a lot
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: of hope. He's cushioning by putting a lot of hope
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in Derrick Henry getting a second two thousand yard season.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: The only I mean, it's certainly a possibility. I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the fact that Lamar Jackson is so good at running
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: is going to keep him about two to three hundred
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: yards away from it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: How do you if you are like, how does it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: get worse? If you're Tennessee right now? Right Like, here's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the thing. I'm Tennessee two years from now might be
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, cause so.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Give Hellman's Mayo the naming rights to their stadium.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: You could always you never know what a team's rebuild is.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But in this moment, like they they could have made
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: every right decision and two years from now we'll be
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: like wow. But right now, you know, AJ Brown has
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: been amazing in Philadelphia over the last couple of years.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Whoeverbody's like, yeah, I'm not a big deal.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: He's old might go for two thousand if Mike Brable
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: takes the Browns starting quarterback job and leads them to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like, I don't know how it gets worse,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: but it's not. People are thriving outside their former relationship
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the Texans, as the youngsters say,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: do the youngsters stay thriving outside your former relationship? No?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I just like saying as the youngsters.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I don't like they say thriving anymore. However, I did
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: go see my brother last night with my daughters and Emily,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and my brother dyed my daughter's hair red and her
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: friend saw the hair and called my brother zesty, Oh zesty,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: which I guess is a big compliment.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Oh he's got like I hadn't heard it before.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He gallot zi, he's got a little Zach galloz to him.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: My brother said it sounds like a very old dressing
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and your refrigerator.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, yeah, gold, do you have
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: any of these zesty chips? Yeah, it sounds like a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: flavor of ruffles. I don't like it, but I do
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: believe it's important. It's the tough thing Zach about getting
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: older as an artist, is I think. If you don't
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: spend time around young people, you age out of relevancy
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and an understanding.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Of the world.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But the older you get, the harder it is to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, twenty year olds, what do you think
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of life? You just there's just that gap is making
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you weirder when you're like, I just want to know
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: what a twenty three year old guy thinks of the world.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And that's not a good look. As you age beyond forty.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Here's what aging artists have to do. As you put it,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you have to be able to You have to be
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: able to understand the language while refusing to speak it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You have to be able to go to Italy and
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: know they're talking about you in Italian, but just act
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: like you only speak English.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Sure you can't, Yeah you don't. You don't want to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be the guy at the Mexican restaurant saying I like facias.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You can't do that. You just have to ask for
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the fajidas and move on.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And yeah, you don't want to be you don't want
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to be a middle aged man going up be like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: look at that gyat which I guess is a big booty.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I hate that. I want the show to be over, Jay,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I hate that more than I've hated anything that we've
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: done in multiple years on this program.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Well, the Vikings have a wonderfold yet, and I'm so
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: glad the Lions got to put their foot in net.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Zach, Zach, I I could not have enjoyed this more
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and less at the same time.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That's what I like, That's where I like to live.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I want nothing more than
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: us to be playing each other in the final week
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of the season with the number one seed on the line.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I know that's a big dream and a big wish
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and it's a long way to get there, but God damn,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I want nothing more than that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And then you just got to work your way from
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that number six power ranking.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Jake, could you just cut the show? I just keep
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: trying to get out, and he just keeps saying, this
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is why we don't do these, ladies and gentlemen, for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Jay Nelson, for the Vikings Entertainment Network, and certainly not
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: for Zach Martina.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Come to laugh Camp.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's at laugh Camp. Go see him there this weekend.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Bye, guys.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks again to Zach Martina for joining the show, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: thank you for listening to our podcast feed. Hey, well
• 29:01
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• 29:03
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• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Also a huge shout out to Ticketmaster, the official ticket
• 29:11
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• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the game, and we will see you all again
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: next week.
• 29:21
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