Latest / Wrongful Conviction / #496 Maggie Freleng with William Beeman
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello, You have a call at no expense to you
- 0:03Speaker 1: from an inmate at Anamosa Dave.
- 0:09Speaker 2: What did he call himself?
- 0:15Speaker 1: You may begin speaking now, Hello.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Hello, how you doing?
- 0:21Speaker 2: I'm good? Is this William?
- 0:23Speaker 3: Yes?
- 0:24Speaker 2: Okay? What do you like to be called? Do you
- 0:25Speaker 2: like to be called will or William?
- 0:29Speaker 4: Most people call me Drifty Drifty.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Bill got the nickname drifty because his mind tends to
- 0:36Speaker 2: wander and he's.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Aloof Bill was kind of a loner.
- 0:40Speaker 2: This is his mom, Donna.
- 0:42Speaker 1: He's off from the corner by himself, reading or watching television.
- 0:47Speaker 4: I just don't like crowds.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Crowds even people I like it, don't like crowd especially
- 0:54Speaker 2: in prison.
- 0:56Speaker 4: I come in when I was twenty three. I was
- 0:59Speaker 4: sixty seven. Now do you realize what happened day to
- 1:03Speaker 4: day in a place like this? And I just he
- 1:12Speaker 4: wouldn't believe some of the stuff I've seen.
- 1:15Speaker 2: So he sticks to himself, and the name drifty stuck
- 1:18Speaker 2: to him. Like this. One time in the prison yard,
- 1:21Speaker 2: two guys started getting into it.
- 1:23Speaker 4: They get dark in then down the old fort. I
- 1:27Speaker 4: used to watch the two red tail hawks sore while
- 1:31Speaker 4: they were arguing, and he says, ah, there he goes
- 1:34Speaker 4: drifted off again.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Drifty Beaman, but he also says I can call him Bill.
- 1:42Speaker 4: I'm William Beaman. I've been incarcerated for forty four years
- 1:46Speaker 4: or something that I didn't do, and I hope some
- 1:51Speaker 4: good comes of this, not only for me, but for others.
- 1:55Speaker 2: From LoVa for good. This is wrongful conviction with Maggie
- 1:58Speaker 2: Freeling today. William Beeman. William Beeman was born April twenty second,
- 2:08Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven, in Muscatine, Iowa. What was life like
- 2:12Speaker 2: growing up in Iowa?
- 2:14Speaker 1: Hey?
- 2:14Speaker 4: It was great. Mustin eat that that rule. I mean,
- 2:24Speaker 4: it ain't no big city, but we had a lot
- 2:27Speaker 4: of industry and stuff around. Heine's fargest metalw factory was
- 2:34Speaker 4: in Muscatine Banded eggs Hedge Corners. We had three factors
- 2:39Speaker 4: to them.
- 2:40Speaker 2: And many many other factories. Once known as the pearl
- 2:45Speaker 2: button capital of the world in the early nineteen hundreds,
- 2:48Speaker 2: before most buttons were made of plastic, Muscatines button factories
- 2:52Speaker 2: employed half of the city's workforce. The city was the
- 2:56Speaker 2: world's largest producer of pearl buttons. Muscatine was a blue
- 3:01Speaker 2: collar town, and so was Bill's family. Here's Bill's mom
- 3:05Speaker 2: Donna again.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I was a checkout at highge and I also managed
- 3:11Speaker 1: the music department at war Worse.
- 3:15Speaker 2: She was also a mom to two other.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Kids, two girls and a boy.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Bill is in the middle.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Harry's four years older than I am. She's mom's first marriage.
- 3:29Speaker 4: And my little sisters you're younger. And we were together
- 3:35Speaker 4: all the time, and Teresa.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Teresa and Belle were like two pieces of pod where
- 3:40Speaker 1: you've seen one, you've seen the other.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Bill and his little sister, Teresa did everything together.
- 3:47Speaker 4: Every now and then at dolls was or so she'd
- 3:50Speaker 4: play army with me. I thought both of them how
- 3:55Speaker 4: to fight is one against two, But I got a
- 4:00Speaker 4: little nose star fighting back. They had to learn how
- 4:03Speaker 4: to fight, so it kind of hard. Hits some sentence too.
- 4:09Speaker 1: The girls kicked on him that I think it was
- 4:11Speaker 1: because he was a boy.
- 4:13Speaker 5: What would they do?
- 4:15Speaker 3: Oh just tale tale stuff.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Uh, Bill's doing this, Bill's doing that?
- 4:22Speaker 3: Which wasn't He wasn't doing anything really, so.
- 4:26Speaker 4: I was two against fun. One time I got accused
- 4:29Speaker 4: of shooting out a woman's neighbor woman's window with my beaf. Again,
- 4:34Speaker 4: as the only guy on the blocks that had to
- 4:37Speaker 4: beat against him, I had to pay for the window.
- 4:41Speaker 4: I had to help fix mode and filled the snowing
- 4:45Speaker 4: lawn for a year. Yeah, I've been down here four
- 4:50Speaker 4: or five years and found out Terry's the woman done it,
- 4:53Speaker 4: because that woman made her mad.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Donna now remembers those times fondly.
- 4:59Speaker 3: He was a happy, go lucky kid.
- 5:02Speaker 1: He had a no adney on a mini bike, and
- 5:05Speaker 1: he made ramp some things out here in the backyard
- 5:08Speaker 1: and jumped them and rode over him.
- 5:11Speaker 2: She remembers hunting and family camping trips and making him
- 5:15Speaker 2: his favorite food.
- 5:16Speaker 1: He likes whoppers, and then he likes pizza. When he
- 5:21Speaker 1: was a kid, I fixed stuff on the grill at
- 5:24Speaker 1: that time, and there was hamburgers and hotbugs.
- 5:28Speaker 3: You know, he just lived on stuff like that.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Donna remembers being close with her only son.
- 5:35Speaker 1: It just seemed like every time he had a little problem,
- 5:39Speaker 1: he would come to me and his dad usually sup
- 5:45Speaker 1: a lot in the daytime because he worked at night.
- 5:49Speaker 3: And I just I don't know what to say. Bill
- 5:53Speaker 3: and I were just close.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Donna says. The girls were troublemakers, but not Bill.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Bill smoked, He never drank, he never took street drugs.
- 6:06Speaker 1: He just well I don't know.
- 6:08Speaker 3: He stayed home most of the time.
- 6:10Speaker 2: At night, they would watch TV or cook, or Bill
- 6:14Speaker 2: would go off and do his favorite thing.
- 6:17Speaker 1: That was what he was more interested than was his
- 6:19Speaker 1: mini bike and modad and his motorcycle.
- 6:23Speaker 2: As Bill got older, he struggled in school. Donna says
- 6:26Speaker 2: he would have to stay home often because he'd get
- 6:29Speaker 2: so worked up about going to school he'd make himself sick.
- 6:33Speaker 1: He actually ran a fever and throw up. Really yeah,
- 6:38Speaker 1: and Bill was very smart.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Despite being smart, school just wasn't for Bill, so Donna
- 6:44Speaker 2: took him out instead. Bill got his ged and joined
- 6:48Speaker 2: a job core program in South Dakota.
- 6:50Speaker 4: I went to South Dakota. I got thirtified as a
- 6:55Speaker 4: welder Union carpentry building supply.
- 7:00Speaker 2: After getting certified, Bill bounced around working different gigs, trying
- 7:04Speaker 2: to figure out what he wanted to do in life.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Or did gas station as maintenance man at a nursery
- 7:11Speaker 4: or nursing home. I was a maintenance man in a
- 7:15Speaker 4: dress shop or gas stations, working a couple of different
- 7:20Speaker 4: button factories, one feet mill bandagg rubber, retire pre.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Treading, lots of working and writing. What did you write?
- 7:31Speaker 4: What I was doing? The street racing and stuff on
- 7:34Speaker 4: the street with the dirt bike was three fifty six
- 7:40Speaker 4: fifty straight bike and a GS thousand Dzuki street.
- 7:47Speaker 2: In his early twenties, Bill was good looking, tall, slim,
- 7:52Speaker 2: with floey brown hair. He's been described as a charmer,
- 7:55Speaker 2: and that's evident by the amount of girlfriends Bill says
- 7:59Speaker 2: he had.
- 8:00Speaker 4: That's kind of a butthole because how was Cardra to
- 8:06Speaker 4: settle down.
- 8:07Speaker 2: After a while searching for the right job, Bill finally
- 8:11Speaker 2: found one he liked as a part time DJ at
- 8:14Speaker 2: a local night spot called Baker's Front Street Disco. What
- 8:20Speaker 2: kind of music were you playing?
- 8:22Speaker 4: Disco?
- 8:23Speaker 2: Disco? So you know, what would that have been like
- 8:27Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight, What were the heads?
- 8:31Speaker 4: What all depends on the real disco was always you
- 8:36Speaker 4: had to beg Michael Jackson had more than people thought.
- 8:42Speaker 4: Then you had poin Iner sisters and oh it's been
- 8:47Speaker 4: a long time.
- 8:52Speaker 2: You might be wondering what a guy who hates crowds
- 8:55Speaker 2: was doing as a DJ.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Well.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Bill says that the DJ booth was on the side
- 9:00Speaker 2: and floor. There was only room for him and a
- 9:03Speaker 2: few chairs.
- 9:04Speaker 4: So there wasn't a bunch of people coming up there
- 9:07Speaker 4: and stand in row right, so I wasn't in any
- 9:09Speaker 4: crowds and stuff.
- 9:11Speaker 2: And Bill loved it. He was part of the fun,
- 9:14Speaker 2: but far away enough to feel safe.
- 9:16Speaker 4: I could look out over the dance floor and everything,
- 9:19Speaker 4: see everybody having a good time, and I knew they
- 9:22Speaker 4: were doing it because of me. And that's what being
- 9:26Speaker 4: a DJ mean to me.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Bill had the life.
- 9:30Speaker 4: As DJ and night I built remodeled houses during the day.
- 9:35Speaker 4: I really liked that.
- 9:48Speaker 2: One night in April nineteen eighty, twenty three year old
- 9:51Speaker 2: Bill Beeman was in his DJ booths.
- 9:53Speaker 4: People would use all kinds of different reasons to come
- 9:57Speaker 4: talk to me up in the booth, and I think
- 10:00Speaker 4: gets first place I heard.
- 10:01Speaker 2: About it about the body of a young woman found
- 10:05Speaker 2: in the campground of wildcat Den State Park. She was
- 10:10Speaker 2: naked and had been beaten and stabbed seventeen times. Whispers
- 10:16Speaker 2: of the crime were making their way around town.
- 10:19Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody was talking about it. Mom and dad was
- 10:21Speaker 4: talking about it.
- 10:23Speaker 2: The body turned out to be twenty two year old
- 10:25Speaker 2: Michelle Winkle. Police said she had last been seen on Monday,
- 10:29Speaker 2: April twenty first, nineteen eighty at the Canterbury Inn and Spa,
- 10:33Speaker 2: A hotel she would go and swim at after work.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Michelle Winkle allegedly spent a lot of time alone.
- 10:41Speaker 5: She didn't seem to have a lot of close friends
- 10:45Speaker 5: are relatives.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Erica Nichols Cook is the director of the Wrongful Conviction
- 10:49Speaker 2: Unit at the Iowa Public Defender's Office. She says Michelle
- 10:53Speaker 2: also spent a lot of time at the mall.
- 10:56Speaker 5: She was also known as the crier by a group
- 11:00Speaker 5: of girls who worked at the mall. That's so mean
- 11:03Speaker 5: because she'd walk around them all crying.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Erica says Michelle had a troubled life.
- 11:10Speaker 5: She had experienced a lot of mental instability. She had
- 11:16Speaker 5: been treated for psychiatric issues in seventy eight seventy nine
- 11:20Speaker 5: at the University of Iowa.
- 11:22Speaker 2: She had recently moved back home with her parents, who
- 11:25Speaker 2: were devout Catholics, and Erica says Michelle's father could be.
- 11:29Speaker 5: Abusive, comments about her being overweight. There was comments that
- 11:34Speaker 5: she wouldn't wear red because her dad said only sluts
- 11:38Speaker 5: were read, that he called her piggy, those types of things.
- 11:44Speaker 2: So kind of a sad life.
- 11:45Speaker 5: That sounds like, yes, I think, much more so than
- 11:51Speaker 5: the state portrayed at the trial. She'd had some struggles.
- 11:55Speaker 5: We also learned that she liked a hitchhike.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Michelle had recently been in a car accident and her
- 12:00Speaker 2: dad wouldn't let her drive the family car anymore. Despite
- 12:04Speaker 2: living on a state highway, she had to walk everywhere.
- 12:08Speaker 5: So she would walk along this state highway and catch
- 12:12Speaker 5: a ride into town or catch a ride back out.
- 12:16Speaker 2: She was last seen that Monday around ten forty five pm,
- 12:20Speaker 2: leaving the spa and getting into a brown car with
- 12:22Speaker 2: a white man. Five days later, her body was found.
- 12:27Speaker 5: One of the sticking points in this investigation was that
- 12:32Speaker 5: they didn't have any immediate leads of who Michelle was
- 12:36Speaker 5: with or who she could have been hanging out with
- 12:39Speaker 5: or gotten a ride from.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Police evaluated her body for sexual assaults and collected semen
- 12:45Speaker 2: and blood samples, but in nineteen eighty forensic testing was
- 12:49Speaker 2: in its infancy. The most law enforcement could determine from
- 12:53Speaker 2: a sample was blood type, and their tests found specimens
- 12:57Speaker 2: from an unknown male and.
- 13:00Speaker 5: Someone told investigators that she used to go to Baker's
- 13:04Speaker 5: Front Street disco and that they had seen her there.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Police thought maybe she got a ride to the disco
- 13:11Speaker 2: after swimming.
- 13:12Speaker 4: That was the only reason they even interviewed me. They
- 13:16Speaker 4: thought maybe her with somebody.
- 13:18Speaker 2: More than a week after the body was found, police
- 13:21Speaker 2: brought him Bill for questioning. Bill says he was laid
- 13:24Speaker 2: up and on painkillers because he'd broken his foot on
- 13:27Speaker 2: his birthday about two weeks earlier. He also had a migraine.
- 13:32Speaker 4: I've had migraine headaches since I was a little kid,
- 13:35Speaker 4: and my dumbass didn't know I couldn't mix the pain
- 13:41Speaker 4: painkiller from migraines with the painkiller for more broken foot.
- 13:45Speaker 2: And on top of that, he was now in a
- 13:47Speaker 2: police station being asked about Michelle.
- 13:50Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know her at all, but police.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Let him go home.
- 13:54Speaker 5: His girlfriend is then questioned.
- 13:56Speaker 2: His girlfriend, Joyce, and she.
- 13:58Speaker 5: Says, well, he was with me that week of his birthday,
- 14:02Speaker 5: and you know, after he broke his foot, but.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Her memory was blurry, and she says.
- 14:07Speaker 5: I don't know for sure about Monday night if he
- 14:11Speaker 5: stayed at my house or went to his apartment.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Bill had accompanied Joyce to the police station that day
- 14:16Speaker 2: on May eighth, and police brought him back in to
- 14:18Speaker 2: question him again about what had happened Monday night.
- 14:22Speaker 5: And during that interrogation they tell Bill that we know
- 14:28Speaker 5: that you know something. We think you picked her up
- 14:35Speaker 5: and killed her Monday night.
- 14:38Speaker 4: They must have realized I was on drog or whatever
- 14:42Speaker 4: and decided to had done.
- 14:44Speaker 2: They also knew Bill had a reputation.
- 14:47Speaker 4: I've never been addicted to anything other than motorcycles.
- 14:51Speaker 2: And maybe girls. Bill had a reputation with girls.
- 14:57Speaker 4: And a club. I had three motorcycles. I had a
- 15:01Speaker 4: fifty seven two to a hard top. I had a
- 15:03Speaker 4: blue van and the sixty eight BIS came and a
- 15:08Speaker 4: fan cloth and they made a joke about it. Day
- 15:17Speaker 4: after I got arrested, nine girls come down Stanley. We
- 15:22Speaker 4: were engaged and needed to talk to me. See, I
- 15:27Speaker 4: told you I was about all the time.
- 15:28Speaker 2: He might have been a butthole, but Bill says he
- 15:31Speaker 2: wasn't a killer, and he had an alibi for Monday night.
- 15:35Speaker 4: I stopped the Clark gas station. It was not far
- 15:40Speaker 4: from where I lived, talked to a girl about my
- 15:43Speaker 4: birthday party. The next day I got home.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Joyce was there, but detectives weren't buying it. They were
- 15:52Speaker 2: pointing the finger at Bill in the interrogation room, and
- 15:55Speaker 2: Bill says his mind was cloudy from the meds and
- 15:58Speaker 2: from fear.
- 16:00Speaker 4: They both had their guns out, wiping them off of handkerchiefs,
- 16:04Speaker 4: and I was thinking, this don't look good, and I
- 16:11Speaker 4: was starting to feel kind of happy, I guess, and
- 16:17Speaker 4: they kept saying, well, what if we had somebody that
- 16:19Speaker 4: seen it. I said, they're lying because I didn't do it.
- 16:24Speaker 4: I was confused because I knew I didn't do it,
- 16:28Speaker 4: So how can they have this evidence? How can they
- 16:30Speaker 4: have these witnesses.
- 16:32Speaker 2: The interrogation wasn't recorded, and Bill didn't have a lawyer present,
- 16:36Speaker 2: and the next thing he knows, he's in a holding cell.
- 16:40Speaker 4: I just thought they gout me for like a drunken
- 16:43Speaker 4: disorderly or something like that, and cop star laughing, SNA boys.
- 16:50Speaker 4: So they got you in here for murder.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Police called Donna to the station.
- 16:55Speaker 1: He didn't even know where he was at or what
- 16:56Speaker 1: he was doing in there. When I walked in, I
- 17:00Speaker 1: said Bill, I said what is going on? And he said, Mom,
- 17:04Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, they took my picture and
- 17:08Speaker 1: took my wallet and my shoe strings.
- 17:11Speaker 2: According to police, Bill signed a confession. Do you remember
- 17:15Speaker 2: signing anything like? Do you remember having anything in front
- 17:18Speaker 2: of you?
- 17:18Speaker 4: I don't remember riding nothing, not I remember going in
- 17:23Speaker 4: there and Nick harping on this. Bad witnesses, bad evidence.
- 17:28Speaker 4: They were cleaning their guns, they were doing this. I mean,
- 17:31Speaker 4: my mind was on cody.
- 17:35Speaker 2: But there was the statement signed by Bill saying he
- 17:38Speaker 2: picked up Michelle that night, took her to the park
- 17:41Speaker 2: where they made out, and after she refused to have
- 17:43Speaker 2: sex with him, he kicked her in the head with
- 17:46Speaker 2: a steel toe boot. By the time the sexual assault
- 17:50Speaker 2: kit came back, it didn't matter that the samples didn't
- 17:53Speaker 2: match Bill. Law enforcement had what they needed, a confession.
- 17:59Speaker 2: Bill arrested that day on May eighth, for the murder
- 18:02Speaker 2: of Michelle Winkle. Donna was frantic trying to help Bill
- 18:07Speaker 2: and pay a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond.
- 18:11Speaker 1: They said that we could have got him out of
- 18:14Speaker 1: bond by putting my house up for you know, collateral.
- 18:19Speaker 3: And Dick wouldn't do it.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Bill's dad, He said no.
- 18:24Speaker 1: And I tried to sell my coin collection and different things,
- 18:29Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough money.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Wow, how much money did you get for the coins?
- 18:36Speaker 1: Well, I only got five hundred dollars and I should
- 18:38Speaker 1: have got about two thousand.
- 18:41Speaker 3: That I had to pay.
- 18:43Speaker 1: The lawyers had to pay somebody. They got court appointed,
- 18:47Speaker 1: but there was somebody they had to pay, so I
- 18:51Speaker 1: had to sell it and give them the money. And
- 18:56Speaker 1: I was on disability and I didn't get much money
- 19:00Speaker 1: at that time. I think I was only getting ninety
- 19:02Speaker 1: two dollars a month, and I tried to save my
- 19:07Speaker 1: money and I hired a private detective, but that didn't
- 19:10Speaker 1: go any place, and I couldn't keep him because I
- 19:13Speaker 1: couldn't afford it.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Bill was actually offered a plea before.
- 19:18Speaker 4: Trial, second great plea barg well second degree then was
- 19:22Speaker 4: only twenty five years and me, mom, dad and lawyer's
- 19:28Speaker 4: got talked about it and I didn't do it. So
- 19:33Speaker 4: I believed in system and boy.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Bill went to trial in October, just short of five
- 19:46Speaker 2: months after his arrest.
- 19:47Speaker 5: The state's theory was that Bill picks her up close
- 19:52Speaker 5: to the SPA, but not from the SPA, at a
- 19:54Speaker 5: gas station and offers to give her a write home,
- 19:59Speaker 5: and they just said to drive around, and they end
- 20:01Speaker 5: up at the park, they start making out and then
- 20:05Speaker 5: you know the failed sexual encounter, but that he killed her.
- 20:08Speaker 5: On Monday the twenty.
- 20:09Speaker 2: First, a pathologist testified that Michelle's body was infested with
- 20:13Speaker 2: maggots placing the time of death around three to fourteen
- 20:17Speaker 2: days before her body was found on Saturday, but she
- 20:21Speaker 2: was last seen five days prior, on Monday the twenty first. Remember,
- 20:26Speaker 2: Bill had broken his foot on Tuesday the twenty second,
- 20:29Speaker 2: and the lead investigator conceded that Bill had an alibi
- 20:33Speaker 2: for all the days between Tuesday and Saturday when Michelle's
- 20:37Speaker 2: body was found. So law enforcement determined that if Bill
- 20:41Speaker 2: killed her, it had to have been on Monday, but
- 20:44Speaker 2: the evidence to back that up had holes.
- 20:47Speaker 4: The only thing they had against me was the statement,
- 20:51Speaker 4: no way doubt stands see you know. The said, well,
- 20:54Speaker 4: we know he'd done it because we've seen it, or no,
- 20:57Speaker 4: we know he'd done it because this evidence backs it up.
- 21:00Speaker 4: All their evidence counterdicted the statement.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Michelle was seen getting into a brown car. Bill's defense
- 21:06Speaker 2: said he used a motorcycle to get around because his
- 21:09Speaker 2: car didn't run well. The defense also presented three alibi
- 21:13Speaker 2: witnesses for the evening of April twenty first, who testified
- 21:17Speaker 2: to seeing Bill between ten thirty and midnight, when the
- 21:20Speaker 2: crime had supposedly occurred. But most surprising of all was
- 21:25Speaker 2: that a witness testified at trial that she'd seen Michelle
- 21:28Speaker 2: alive after the twenty first. A high school peer of
- 21:32Speaker 2: Michelle's testified she had seen her at the mall on
- 21:35Speaker 2: April twenty second, the day after she was supposedly killed,
- 21:39Speaker 2: with a man who was not Bill. At trial, Bill's
- 21:44Speaker 2: defense also contended he had signed the alleged confession out
- 21:47Speaker 2: of fear and confusion. Still, after deliberating for five and
- 21:52Speaker 2: a half hours, the jury found Bill guilty of first
- 21:55Speaker 2: degree murder on October eighth, nineteen eighty. Donna sat through
- 22:02Speaker 2: the whole trial.
- 22:04Speaker 3: It was terrible. I I really.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Can't explain it. I have believed Bill right from the start.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Bill just couldn't do that g anybody. I done a
- 22:18Speaker 1: lot of crying.
- 22:19Speaker 4: God took me through the value of death. You know,
- 22:22Speaker 4: I stuff my tongue as and I'm still in the
- 22:28Speaker 4: value of death. Far as that concern.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Used to being alone, safe up in his DJ booth,
- 22:37Speaker 2: far away from everyone, Bill was surrounded in prison.
- 22:42Speaker 4: When I got Donald Fort Madison, it was like they
- 22:49Speaker 4: were throwing a goki in the shark tan.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Bill says he had to fight to survive.
- 22:54Speaker 4: I turned out to be a wolf, and he.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Was angry, resentful about what happened to him. And his family,
- 23:00Speaker 2: and he took it out on anyone who crossed him.
- 23:03Speaker 4: I had that rage. Somebody could say something stupid, go
- 23:07Speaker 4: off on him.
- 23:09Speaker 2: After decades, the rage turned into loneliness, and people on
- 23:12Speaker 2: the outside fell.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Off, girlfriend's friends, family, everybody did.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Even Teresa.
- 23:19Speaker 4: After a while, she just kind of fell off.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Too, everyone except Donna.
- 23:26Speaker 1: People don't have that much to do with somebody in prison,
- 23:32Speaker 1: you know, they kind of forget him.
- 23:35Speaker 2: But Donna never forgot about her only son.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I feel terrible. I told Bill just this morning, I
- 23:42Speaker 1: wish I could do more. I wish there was something
- 23:45Speaker 1: I could do, and he said, Mom, you'd done it
- 23:48Speaker 1: when you were younger.
- 23:50Speaker 3: I've gave him money as.
- 23:52Speaker 1: When I could, and done everything I could for him.
- 23:57Speaker 2: For more than four decades, They've stayed in con instant
- 24:00Speaker 2: contact through phone and visitation. What is that like? Going
- 24:04Speaker 2: to visit your son in prison.
- 24:09Speaker 1: After forty four years? You get used to it, but
- 24:12Speaker 1: I don't like it.
- 24:14Speaker 3: I want him home.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Do you worry that maybe you're getting older and you
- 24:21Speaker 2: might not see him come home?
- 24:23Speaker 4: Yes?
- 24:23Speaker 3: I do.
- 24:25Speaker 1: I'm ninety two and I have several things that matter.
- 24:31Speaker 1: My voice, as you can tell, I have COPD, which
- 24:36Speaker 1: kind of gets worse all the time, and I have
- 24:40Speaker 1: an ampathy in my legs and of course the usual
- 24:43Speaker 1: arthritis and everything, and I.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Just want him home. I'd like to know I have
- 24:50Speaker 3: a sum for a while.
- 24:54Speaker 1: I just sometimes feel like I've never had a son.
- 25:00Speaker 1: And then there's times I feel like, you know, I've
- 25:04Speaker 1: had him and he's just gone for a while.
- 25:09Speaker 3: But I don't sleep.
- 25:10Speaker 1: I uh, if you just had a key where you
- 25:13Speaker 1: could shut off your mind, but you can't do that.
- 25:21Speaker 2: However, when Erica came across Bill's case, Donna was able
- 25:26Speaker 2: to sleep a bit easier. When Erica's office was first started,
- 25:31Speaker 2: she was given a specific assignment from higher.
- 25:34Speaker 5: Ups get a DNA exoneration.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Iowa had never had one, so she was on the hunt,
- 25:40Speaker 2: and Bill's case appeared to have evidence from which her
- 25:43Speaker 2: team could potentially recover DNA.
- 25:46Speaker 5: We had a chance to know submit that all for
- 25:51Speaker 5: testing if it could be found, and that kind of
- 25:56Speaker 5: started our quest.
- 25:57Speaker 2: I guess, a quest that gave Donna nude hope.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Oh, Erica is a doll. I there you if she's
- 26:07Speaker 1: a miracle. She has found out stuff that we didn't
- 26:11Speaker 1: even know.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Erica started with the basics, what would have been Bill's
- 26:17Speaker 2: motive to kill Michelle.
- 26:19Speaker 5: The most fascinating part was that there was no connection
- 26:24Speaker 5: between him and the victim. They weren't They hadn't dated,
- 26:26Speaker 5: they didn't go to school together, they hadn't been seen together.
- 26:30Speaker 2: But Michelle had been seen with an unidentified man in
- 26:33Speaker 2: a brown car from the beginning. Were there any better
- 26:37Speaker 2: suspects that should have been looked into?
- 26:40Speaker 5: Yes, we found a handwritten suspect matrix from the in
- 26:45Speaker 5: the DCI file.
- 26:47Speaker 2: That is something you could only hope to find.
- 26:54Speaker 5: And we'd read a little bit about the fact that
- 26:58Speaker 5: she had gone out with a guy or told someone
- 27:01Speaker 5: that she had a date with the Larry Dance.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Erica found that Larry Dance had gone out with Michelle
- 27:07Speaker 2: about a month before she disappeared.
- 27:10Speaker 5: He told investigators that he'd picked her up from the spa.
- 27:14Speaker 5: They'd gone back to his house. They were messing around,
- 27:18Speaker 5: they got naked and got into his bed, and then
- 27:21Speaker 5: she changed her mind and didn't want to have sex,
- 27:25Speaker 5: and so they went to sleep, and he took her
- 27:27Speaker 5: to her friend to a mutual friend's house the next
- 27:30Speaker 5: morning and dropped her off there and to me the
- 27:34Speaker 5: similarities between his story and the confession quote unquote were
- 27:40Speaker 5: so eerily similar.
- 27:42Speaker 2: And Danz didn't have an alibi for the night of
- 27:45Speaker 2: the twenty first, but he was cleared after a polygraph and.
- 27:49Speaker 5: The lead DCI investigator, Rick saiwasinc His brother Jeff vouched
- 27:56Speaker 5: for Larry Dance and said he's a good guy. I
- 27:58Speaker 5: play softball with her. But the most alarming was that
- 28:04Speaker 5: law enforcement had her dad, Francis Winkle, as a suspect
- 28:09Speaker 5: on their list.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Remember, Michelle had a troubled home life, which was evident
- 28:13Speaker 2: to Erica by the fact that no one had reported
- 28:16Speaker 2: her missing.
- 28:18Speaker 5: I can't imagine if my family saw me on Monday
- 28:23Speaker 5: and didn't hear from me when my body was found
- 28:25Speaker 5: on Saturday, that they still hadn't raised an alarm.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Wow.
- 28:29Speaker 5: Michelle never came home, and the brothers also had a
- 28:37Speaker 5: really callous attitude towards her, things like she'd being a
- 28:43Speaker 5: problem child, used to run away. And then none of
- 28:46Speaker 5: the family members testify at trial. They actually call the
- 28:51Speaker 5: brother Mark's girlfriend now wife, Diana, to say the last
- 28:56Speaker 5: time that she saw her at the house was that
- 28:58Speaker 5: Monday afternoon. She wanted a ride into town, so she
- 29:02Speaker 5: could go to the bank before going to work, and
- 29:04Speaker 5: her brother refused to take her, so she left on foot.
- 29:10Speaker 2: What did all this information tell you?
- 29:13Speaker 5: That the investigation that it had all of the features
- 29:17Speaker 5: of a wrongful conviction, That investigators focused on the player right,
- 29:22Speaker 5: the DJ, the guy that had multiple girlfriends. They ignored
- 29:29Speaker 5: all these other legit credible alibis or motives for murdering her.
- 29:37Speaker 5: We knew there was just there had to be more
- 29:39Speaker 5: to the story.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Erica and her team discovered a list of people who
- 29:44Speaker 2: said they saw Michelle alive after the twenty first, the
- 29:48Speaker 2: only day the state concedes Bill could have killed Michelle.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It wasn't just the schoolmate who testified at trial that
- 29:55Speaker 2: she'd seen Michelle at the mall Tuesday.
- 29:58Speaker 5: People saw her alive up through Thursday.
- 30:02Speaker 2: This list was never disclosed to the defense. Erica filed
- 30:06Speaker 2: this as a Brady violation withholding exculpatory evidence from the defense.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Then she turned to the crime scene.
- 30:14Speaker 5: The pathologist testified she was heavily infested with maggots, and
- 30:18Speaker 5: she's not when you look at the crime scene photos.
- 30:22Speaker 5: An entomologist that we hired said that the best in
- 30:27Speaker 5: her opinion, the best estimate was that Michelle died Wednesday night,
- 30:31Speaker 5: the twenty third, and that she did not die on Monday,
- 30:35Speaker 5: that the bugs that were there, the maggots, and the temperatures,
- 30:42Speaker 5: that there's no way she died on Monday and looked
- 30:46Speaker 5: like that on Saturday.
- 30:47Speaker 2: And again everyone agrees Bill could not have killed Michelle
- 30:51Speaker 2: after Monday the twenty first. So Erica also filed an
- 30:56Speaker 2: actual innocence claim, but she had to explain if Bill
- 30:59Speaker 2: was actually innocent, why did he confess? She says, to
- 31:03Speaker 2: start calling the statement a confession is a stretch.
- 31:08Speaker 5: It's a one page statement, and he never admits or
- 31:13Speaker 5: remembers killing her. It's I must have done it, but
- 31:17Speaker 5: I don't remember it. And so it raises all of
- 31:21Speaker 5: these red flags about whether it's reliable, and what coercion
- 31:28Speaker 5: was happening in that room, and how vulnerable was he.
- 31:33Speaker 2: In terms of the evidence that brought Erica to Bill's
- 31:35Speaker 2: case in the first place.
- 31:37Speaker 5: We were denied DNA testing because the state kept saying
- 31:40Speaker 5: the evidence was gone. They don't have it, they can't
- 31:43Speaker 5: find it.
- 31:44Speaker 2: The sexual assault kit the one thing that could help
- 31:47Speaker 2: prove Bill's innocence.
- 31:48Speaker 5: We could find everything but the physical evidence.
- 31:51Speaker 2: So Erica also filed a young blood claim.
- 31:54Speaker 5: Young Blood versus Arizona, which is a due process violation
- 31:59Speaker 5: for destruction of evidence. And so we just had a
- 32:02Speaker 5: trial on that in June, and the court ruled and
- 32:05Speaker 5: denied that claim and said that while the sexual assault
- 32:10Speaker 5: kit has been destroyed, it wasn't done in bad faith.
- 32:17Speaker 5: A couple of big things the court missed was that
- 32:21Speaker 5: the victim's clothing is still unaccounted for. It was never released,
- 32:26Speaker 5: it was never on an order to be released it.
- 32:32Speaker 5: It was there, they collected it, they had it.
- 32:36Speaker 2: So you just don't know where it is. Like, do
- 32:39Speaker 2: you think it was destroyed?
- 32:41Speaker 5: I think it was destroyed. I think it should have
- 32:43Speaker 5: been with the sexual assault kit. Wow, it should have
- 32:46Speaker 5: been in the sheriff's office.
- 32:47Speaker 2: And remember agent Saiwazink, whose brother vouched for Larry Dan's.
- 32:52Speaker 5: He's the last one to have known to have had
- 32:55Speaker 5: the sexual assault kit or any physical evidence. He picked
- 32:58Speaker 5: it all up from the lab des Moines and was
- 33:01Speaker 5: supposed to drive it back to Muscatine a couple hours away.
- 33:05Speaker 5: But he doesn't file a report, he doesn't sign a
- 33:08Speaker 5: chain of custody document, he doesn't do anything.
- 33:17Speaker 2: All of the claims Erica filed have been denied. She's
- 33:21Speaker 2: amending them and refiling.
- 33:23Speaker 5: If we lose these claims in Iowa, I think next
- 33:27Speaker 5: stop is federal court.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Erica says that Iowa is a hard place to litigate
- 33:33Speaker 2: post conviction cases.
- 33:35Speaker 5: There's no skepticism and everybody knows everybody and it's oh,
- 33:40Speaker 5: I know him, he's a great guy. He's done lots
- 33:43Speaker 5: of murder cases. To me, it's a hard place to
- 33:46Speaker 5: be because I'm the outsider. I'm a threat. The work
- 33:52Speaker 5: is a threat because they're so nice. They don't get
- 33:55Speaker 5: anything wrong.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Do you get any community backlash?
- 34:00Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 34:00Speaker 5: I think there is a unwillingness to work with us.
- 34:08Speaker 2: And through all this bill sits in prison year after year.
- 34:13Speaker 4: Every time we turn around, we prove I didn't do it,
- 34:20Speaker 4: and nobody seems to give a shit. There's no justice
- 34:23Speaker 4: in Iowa. There's no way you can convince me. I
- 34:27Speaker 4: don't care what they do. Convince me. Ryl ever be
- 34:32Speaker 4: justice in Iowa or the courts. I mean, if you're
- 34:38Speaker 4: going to put somebody in prison, you've got to be
- 34:40Speaker 4: damn sure. Especially with a death sentence, which is a
- 34:44Speaker 4: life sentence in Iowa, you should be sure you should
- 34:49Speaker 4: be on the shadow of a doubt. Well, I got
- 34:54Speaker 4: a cave darkness.
- 34:56Speaker 2: One minute remaining.
- 35:02Speaker 3: I had a dream last night that Bill was home.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Were there any specifics in your dream?
- 35:08Speaker 1: I just dreamed that he came walking in and we
- 35:14Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, I was explaining to him
- 35:19Speaker 1: what things were, because Bill no computers, no phones, no,
- 35:24Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things. And this town has
- 35:27Speaker 1: changed so much since.
- 35:30Speaker 3: In fact, it's changed so much.
- 35:32Speaker 1: That I see these things whenever this lady takes me
- 35:37Speaker 1: to the doctor or out of town that I don't
- 35:40Speaker 1: know is there.
- 35:43Speaker 3: And that was the main thing, and I was so tickled.
- 35:47Speaker 1: I just would let him out of my sight, and
- 35:50Speaker 1: I took him to McDonald's because that's the first place.
- 35:54Speaker 3: He's gonna go. And then it's going to be a pizza.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Every now and then. Donna lets herself believe that dream
- 36:03Speaker 2: of having Bill home will become a reality.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna love it. I don't know as I'm
- 36:11Speaker 3: gonna be here that long that I'm gonna love every
- 36:14Speaker 3: minute of it.
- 36:18Speaker 2: Bill was recently moved to another prison and he's been
- 36:21Speaker 2: having a hard time adjusting. He says this new prison
- 36:25Speaker 2: is rough, it's also hard holding onto hope. He has
- 36:29Speaker 2: yet another petition pending in.
- 36:30Speaker 4: Court, but it's gonna take probably a year.
- 36:35Speaker 2: I asked Bill if he thinks his mom has a
- 36:38Speaker 2: year left.
- 36:41Speaker 4: No, no, I'm afraid she don't.
- 36:48Speaker 2: What does it mean to you to have had her
- 36:50Speaker 2: all these years?
- 36:53Speaker 4: Yes, Mama, that's the where mom is.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Bill says, if his mom is going on, there's only
- 37:01Speaker 2: one other thing he'd want.
- 37:03Speaker 4: We left the hell over.
- 37:06Speaker 2: And get a motorcycle.
- 37:09Speaker 4: I want to have a woman on the back. I
- 37:13Speaker 4: want to be going down the road. Reached down and
- 37:15Speaker 4: lay my hand on her sigh the land next to
- 37:18Speaker 4: me for her being on the back of the bike,
- 37:22Speaker 4: and I'll know I'm home.
- 37:31Speaker 2: If you want to help Bill, you can contact the Muscatine,
- 37:34Speaker 2: Iowa County Attorney Jim Barry. Thank you for listening to
- 37:44Speaker 2: Wrongful Conviction with Maggie Freeling. Please support your local innocence
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- 37:54Speaker 2: by me Maggie Freeling, with story editing and sound designed
- 37:57Speaker 2: by senior producer Rebecca Ibara. Our producer is Kathleen Fink.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Our mixer is Josh Allen, with research by Donald Salzman
- 38:05Speaker 2: and additional production help by Jeff Cliburn. Executive producers are
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