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Hour 2 - Flamethrowers · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Oh, what is going on? Happy early morning hours to
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Speaker 1: you over here. So a couple of quarterbacks were in
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Speaker 1: the news today and it caught my attention. One's a
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Speaker 1: big name and one's basically a no name now, but
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Speaker 1: I think both stories are interesting for very different reasons.
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Speaker 1: So the first thing I saw was, I think it's
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Speaker 1: part of Yahoo's newsletter, right They They've got a Yahoo
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Speaker 1: Sports newsletter, and in it, I believe, this morning, they
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Speaker 1: had this little blurb about Ben Fox. So he works
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Speaker 1: for Yahoo's Sports and he covers a lot of sports
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Speaker 1: betting stuff. And so what Ben did? He asked twelve
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Speaker 1: odds makers. He's asking these twelve odds makers, what's the
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Speaker 1: difference in the point spread between the starting quarterback playing
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Speaker 1: or the backup playing? Right, and you're playing at home
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Speaker 1: against the league average team. What's the difference between Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen Bill's quarterback and his backup playing. What's the difference
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Speaker 1: in the point spread between Patrick Mahomes or the backup
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Speaker 1: quarterback playing? And so he asked all these these twelve
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Speaker 1: odds makers, and then he took all twelve different against
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Speaker 1: the spread values and he averaged them together and then
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Speaker 1: ranked the starting quarterbacks right, in terms of how much
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Speaker 1: does each quarterback impact the point spread? Okay, and so
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Speaker 1: the top came up with the top ten, and one
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Speaker 1: of the guys in the top five. I just raised
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Speaker 1: my hand like, wait, what really are you serious about this?
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Speaker 1: So number one in terms of impacting the point spread
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Speaker 1: the most? These twelve odds makers, they went with Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback just under seven points against the spread. That's
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Speaker 1: what he means, they think, I think, oh, Josh Allen's out. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna move the point spread a good seven points.
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a seven point impact. Patrick Mahomes just
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Speaker 1: like a shade under where Josh Allen was. They have
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Speaker 1: Mahomes second, Lamar Jackson third, Jalen Hurts fourth, Joe Burrow fifth.
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Speaker 1: They have Jalen Hurts affecting the point spread six point
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Speaker 1: three points. I got a question for you. Do you
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Speaker 1: think Jalen Hurts impacts the point spread by six plus points?
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's the case. I don't think that's
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Speaker 1: the case at all. Do you think that's the case.
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Speaker 1: The reason I don't think that's the case it's because
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Speaker 1: look at the supporting cast. Look at what Jalen Hurts
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Speaker 1: did last season? Do you realize I didn't realize. I
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Speaker 1: went back and I'm like, what were Jalen Hurts stats
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Speaker 1: last year? What was touchdowns and interceptions? Just as like
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Speaker 1: a reference point, you know, what do you think it was?
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Speaker 1: How many touchdown passes do you think Jalen Hurts threw
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Speaker 1: last season? Eagles won a super Bowl? Eventually? Right? How
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Speaker 1: many touchdown passes for Jalen Hurts last season? Eighteen? As
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Speaker 1: the eighteen touchdown passes five interceptions. What happened with the
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Speaker 1: Eagles offense? Well, Sakuon Barkley went freaking crazy over two
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Speaker 1: thousand yards rushing. Didn't even play every game in the
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Speaker 1: regular season, still rush for over two thousand yards. It
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Speaker 1: was unbelievable in the playoffs. Now, I'll tell you this
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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, and this is on the positive side.
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Speaker 1: I think how people get it twisted with Jalen Hurts
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Speaker 1: is that he's played great in the two biggest football games.
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Speaker 1: We got like he played great in the biggest stage
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Speaker 1: that we have in football, which is the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: He played great in two Super Bowls. One they lost,
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Speaker 1: one they won, they split with the Chiefs. But he
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Speaker 1: played great in both of them. And so I think
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Speaker 1: we look at Hurts and it's like, wow, you know,
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Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP. Here he is. He's knighted. You know
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Speaker 1: you just touched the shoulders with the sword. He's knighted.
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Speaker 1: He's legit. He affects the points spread by six points,
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Speaker 1: whether he's in or out. That's no, he doesn't like Again,
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Speaker 1: look at the supporting cast, best offensive line in football.
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Speaker 1: He's got aj Brown, Davonte Smith, Dallas Goddard to throw to.
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Speaker 1: He's got Saquon Barkley in the backfield rushing for over
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Speaker 1: two thousand yards last season. He had a defense that
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Speaker 1: was second best in points, giving up the second best
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Speaker 1: scoring defense in football last season. And you think Jalen
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Speaker 1: Hurts means six points as far as the point spread goes, Like, Listen,
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Speaker 1: there are odds makers that are way better at this
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Speaker 1: stuff than I am. I'm not here like banging the
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Speaker 1: table like I'm the guru of all things sports betting
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Speaker 1: or making the odds. You know, I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: at all. But what I am telling you is they
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Speaker 1: got that wrong. I know enough to say they have
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Speaker 1: that completely wrong. And I don't want to make it
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Speaker 1: sound like Jalen Hurts is just this dime a dozen quarterback.
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Speaker 1: He's a talented guy. But look, man, you put Jalen
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Speaker 1: Hurts on the Tennessee Titans this year with a ragtag
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Speaker 1: supporting cast, there's no way, like literally no chance he's
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Speaker 1: impacting the point spread that much game in game out.
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Speaker 1: He's a good player, he's not on that level and
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Speaker 1: that's what this is telling me. He's on that level
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Speaker 1: with like josh Allen Mahomes Burrow. No, he is not.
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Speaker 1: He's a guy who threw eighteen touchdown passes last season.
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Speaker 1: You know the truth about Jalen Hurts, I'll give it
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Speaker 1: to you. The truth about Jalen Hurts is that he's
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Speaker 1: played great twice in the most important game and people
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Speaker 1: have blown that out of proportion. That's really what's happened.
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Speaker 1: And you could sit here and be like, Brian, it's
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What do you mean we're blowing it
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Speaker 1: out of proportion. It's the biggest stage. But at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's a game and he's played
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Speaker 1: great twice. Did we do that with Eli Manning? Eli
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Speaker 1: Manning has the most famous play in Super Bowl history
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Speaker 1: with the David Tyree catch. Where he threw the ball
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Speaker 1: up for grabs it they beat the undefeated Patriots, and
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Speaker 1: the second time against the Patriots, he had one of
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Speaker 1: the best deep ball completions to marry O Manningham on
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Speaker 1: the sideline. So we give Eli his props for the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins, but we're like, yeah, he's really not
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. He's gonna get in. We
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Speaker 1: all know he's gonna get in, but he's really not
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. So Eli played really well
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Speaker 1: on the biggest stage against an undefeated team that was
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Speaker 1: eighteen and oh going for nineteen and oh right, and
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Speaker 1: he beat Tom Brady and the Patriots twice. We give
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Speaker 1: him his flowers, but we keep it. We consider the context.
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Speaker 1: We don't blow it out of proportion. But with Jalen Hurts,
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Speaker 1: we just blow it completely out of proportion. He's played great,
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Speaker 1: but he does not impact the points spread by six
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Speaker 1: point three points between him and the backup, No way,
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Speaker 1: no chance. Man Like that to me is saying forget
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Speaker 1: about the team he's on. He's that special. He could
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Speaker 1: do that with basically any team. And that's just not
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Speaker 1: the case that Jalen Hurts. He's a quarterback that's good,
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Speaker 1: but he has some shortcomings. He has some warts. He
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Speaker 1: throws the ball in the wrong place a lot of times,
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Speaker 1: a lot of times, he misreads the coverage. I don't
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Speaker 1: have him as a top ten quarterback. I know it
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Speaker 1: sounds like I'm just trashing the guy. I'm really not.
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Speaker 1: I think he's good. I just don't think he's top ten.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he impacts the game on a top
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Speaker 1: ten level. I think that his supporting cast is so
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Speaker 1: special that it's helped him out a ton compared to
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Speaker 1: vice versa. I don't think he helps the sporting cast
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Speaker 1: out as much as the supporting cast helps him out.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's unfair at all. I'm not telling
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Speaker 1: you the guy can't play at all. I just think
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Speaker 1: he's the Black Brock Party. I think it's basically it
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Speaker 1: in terms of the supporting cast meaning that much to
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Speaker 1: what he does individually. I think Purty and you know,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, they're the Spider Man meme. They're just pointing
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Speaker 1: at each other right, like they greatly have benefited over
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Speaker 1: the years from upper echelon supporting casts. And I look,
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Speaker 1: I think there's a way to tell Like again, when
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Speaker 1: you look at some of these league leaders, go look
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Speaker 1: at Lamar Jackson's numbers and compare him to Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 1: It's not even freaking close. Look at Josh Allen's numbers,
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Speaker 1: mahomes numbers throughout the years. Again, So Jalen Hurts, he's
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Speaker 1: been the starting quarterback for the last four years. He
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Speaker 1: hasn't exceeded twenty three touchdown passes. This is it, like,
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Speaker 1: from most touchdown passes in a season to least twenty three,
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Speaker 1: twenty two, eighteen sixteen. He's got two seasons where he
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Speaker 1: didn't even throw for twenty touchdown passes. And you think
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Speaker 1: that he affects the point spread. He's fourth in the
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Speaker 1: hierarchy of impacting the point spread. No way, not even close, man,
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Speaker 1: not even remotely close. I could go with the a
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Speaker 1: lot of these top guys. Let me go, Okay, here
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Speaker 1: we go. Let's go with Joe Burrow touchdown passes per season. Now,
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Speaker 1: some of this is he's been banged up, but when
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Speaker 1: he's played a full season, right, he played seventeen last season,
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Speaker 1: two other seasons with sixteen starts. Okay, here's here's Joe
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Speaker 1: Burrow's passing touchdowns in order to you know, most to
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Speaker 1: least forty three thirty five, thirty four. Now, he's got
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Speaker 1: a lot of talent around him, Jamar Chase T. Higgins.
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Speaker 1: That's a great one two combo to throw two. But
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Speaker 1: forty three thirty five thirty four. Jalen Hurts. He wakes
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Speaker 1: up dreaming about thirty four touchdown passes in a season,
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Speaker 1: and he was like, I didn't believe it. When I
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Speaker 1: was dreaming it, I knew it was a dream. This
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Speaker 1: is unrealistic type stuff over here, right, Like, come on,
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Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Let me go to Let's
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Speaker 1: go to another guy. Let's just do stats on the
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Speaker 1: fly over here, right, let's go with let me look
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Speaker 1: at Josh Allen. I'm curious, all right, Let's look at
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Speaker 1: his touchdowns per season, just touch down throws. Forget about
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Speaker 1: all the rushing touchdowns as well. Okay, here we go. Now,
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Speaker 1: he's been very durable. He's been a starting quarterback for
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Speaker 1: two for seven years now, he's had six of those
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Speaker 1: seasons playing at least sixteen games. Okay, so let's see
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Speaker 1: an order thirty seven, thirty six, thirty five, twenty nine,
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Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty He's every year he's at least twenty
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Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Three of those years he's in the mid thirties,
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Speaker 1: and you get all the rushing yards, all the rushing
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Speaker 1: touchdowns on top of that, Like, come on, what this idea?
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Speaker 1: Come on, dude, that's ridiculous. Again. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: make Jalen Hurts this sound like he's, you know, he
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Speaker 1: sucks or something. I'm not saying that you can't suck
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Speaker 1: and play that great in two Super Bowls. You can't.
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Speaker 1: So he clearly does not suck. But his supporting cast is,
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Speaker 1: you know, a luxury Cadillac. It is pristine. It is
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Speaker 1: an awesome supporting cast. And to think that he's doing
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Speaker 1: this on a squad with a lesser supporting cast or
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Speaker 1: a bad supporting cast, forget about. It ain't happening man.
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Speaker 1: And it shows you how little he has to do
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Speaker 1: when you can rattle off those numbers per season. Again,
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Speaker 1: like two of the four years where he's been the
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Speaker 1: full time starter, he hasn't reached twenty touchdown passes eighteen
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Speaker 1: and sixteen. Come that's ridiculous, man, I just I don't
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Speaker 1: buy that at all. Don't buy it. I don't have
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Speaker 1: him as a top ten quarterback. I certainly don't have
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Speaker 1: him as a top five quarterback in terms of impacting
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Speaker 1: the point spread between the starter and the backup quarterback.
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Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous, is what I would say. But feel
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Speaker 1: free to check in eight seven, seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 1: Fox is your number? Let me see one last one
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Speaker 1: before we move it along. I just want to see
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Speaker 1: with Lamar here, if you look at Lamar, Lamar puts
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Speaker 1: up numbers man like. Look at what Lamar has done
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Speaker 1: where he's had some seasons throwing touchdown passes. It's been
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Speaker 1: a mixed bag with Lamar. He does have a couple
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Speaker 1: of seasons under twenty touchdown passes as well, but he's
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Speaker 1: also giving you forty one last year. And we're not
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Speaker 1: talking rushing touchdowns either, just passing touch not rushing yards.
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Speaker 1: Everything that he brings to the table running the football
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Speaker 1: forty one touchdown passes, thirty six touchdown passes, twenty six,
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Speaker 1: twenty four, seventeen to sixteen. So he had a lull
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. But bro
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Speaker 1: on the high side, what honest question, what do you
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Speaker 1: think the chances are that Jalen hurts who threw eighteen
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Speaker 1: touchdown passes last season, throws for thirty six touchdown passes
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Speaker 1: or forty one touchdown passes this season like Lamar did
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Speaker 1: last season. There's no chance there's zero chants because they
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Speaker 1: don't rely on him that much, and also because he's
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Speaker 1: not as good as Lamar Jackson is, at least in
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Speaker 1: the regular season putting up big numbers. He's not that guy.
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Speaker 1: So no, I don't buy that he affects the points
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Speaker 1: spread that much. Do not buy it whatsoever? What do
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Speaker 1: you have to say? Feel free to check in eight seven,
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Speaker 1: far as that goes, but feel free to check in. Well, Nowaday,
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Speaker 1: you're right Lorrain and I've I've ruined it right there.
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Speaker 1: But technically, no mention, no opinions, no thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: sex toys being thrown on another WNBA court. So there
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Speaker 1: you go. Coming up next, man, we got so much
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Speaker 1: to do. Why doesn't one league handle things like another
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Speaker 1: league does. We'll get to that coming up next. I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm Brian no In for Big Ben Malor here on
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. That is a random music question I have.
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Speaker 1: So you're playing a Summertime by Will Smith? What songs
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Speaker 1: do you think you know all the lyrics to?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 1: I mean it's something off the top of your Is
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Speaker 1: there one that it comes to your mind? Cooper Loraina,
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Speaker 1: do you say I know every single line of this song?
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Speaker 6: Uh?
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Speaker 7: Fer delicious.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the one, all right. Sure you think you
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Speaker 1: know every.
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Speaker 7: Single line, single word?
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Speaker 1: Okay, Coop, you I swear if you go with Tool again?
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Speaker 6: Man, well, yes, I mean obviously there's plenty of Tool songs.
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Speaker 6: I'd say, uh, almost every song on uh the Oh
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Speaker 6: my god, I'm blanking on the album name the Eminem's album.
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Speaker 6: Not the Marshall Mathers LP. But the one that came
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Speaker 6: out in like two thousand. Why am I blanking on
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Speaker 6: the name of it?
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Speaker 2: Encore?
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Speaker 6: No, the one before.
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Speaker 7: That, the Closet one.
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Why Why am I the Marshall Mathers LP.
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Speaker 6: No, No, No, the Slim Shae No, the eminem Show.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you know that one, like Front and Back.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, plenty of songs on that album. I would
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Speaker 6: know all the lyrics to all of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just I don't know. I just think
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Speaker 1: about that with well, I thought about that song with
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Speaker 1: Will Smith, and then I thought about, you know, like
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Speaker 1: the Fresh Prince of bel Air, and I probably know
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Speaker 1: most of that one still is just as stuck in
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Speaker 1: my brain, you know. But every now and then you'll
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Speaker 1: see someone do karaoke and they think they know the
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Speaker 1: song and they get up there and they know like
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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the song.
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Speaker 7: You know, different when the pressure is on you too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. But especially for rap songs, Coop, Like,
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Speaker 1: there are so many lyrics in a rap song where
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Speaker 1: there's there's not one line where you're like, oh shoot,
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Speaker 1: I forgot that one. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I could do cleaning out my closet.
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Speaker 1: Uh, we should do that. Can we play it? And
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Speaker 1: you just say what he says?
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Speaker 7: Let me pull up my closet song, hold.
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Speaker 1: On the closet song. Let's try it. Let's see if
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Speaker 1: you really do know this or not, Coop, I.
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Speaker 6: Don't want to do this.
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Speaker 1: Come on, we're not going to use this against you.
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Speaker 1: That wouldn't be like I think you. I think you
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Speaker 1: got a fighting chance, but you know, I'm skeptical. There
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Speaker 1: are just so many lyrics and you got to know
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Speaker 1: them on time. You know, it's not easy.
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Speaker 7: Are you guys ready?
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Speaker 1: We're ready? You ready? Coop? That's the question. You know,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to do your eminem impression. You have
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Speaker 1: to say it.
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Speaker 6: You know, where's my snare? I've got no snare on
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Speaker 6: my headphones. Ah, there you go.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know you're gonna get that right too, mad,
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Speaker 1: you're a top of it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
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Speaker 8: I have.
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Speaker 6: I've been protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my
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Speaker 6: wicked rhymes. Look at the signs. Stick of the mind.
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Speaker 6: Off the mother kid that's behind all this commotion. The
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Speaker 6: emotion run deepest oceans, exploding tempers, flamoring from parents. Just
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Speaker 6: blow them off and keep going, not taking nothing from
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Speaker 6: no one, give them how long and some breathing, keep
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Speaker 6: kicking nass in the morning and taking names in the evening.
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Speaker 6: The taste of sour is vinegar in they mouth. So
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Speaker 6: they can trigger me, but you'll never figure me out.
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Speaker 6: Look at me now, I bet you're probably sick of me. Now,
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Speaker 6: ain't your mama. I'm gonna make you look so ridiculous?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Pretty good? Okay, bad?
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Speaker 3: All right, all right, go the high batting average right there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and one part I just ran out of breath.
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Speaker 1: I don't blame you, dude. Yeah, Like next, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: do like the really hard part of rap. God, you
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Speaker 1: know where he's doing.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I can't.
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Speaker 1: I can't do that, good luck. That's pretty good man.
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Speaker 1: There's just I'm just saying a lot of lyrics, a
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff, like a lot of opportunities to forget
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Speaker 1: a line or a word.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty good, Coop. I think you're nicely done.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I'm glad I remember these lyrics.
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Speaker 7: Especially on the spot like that ten out of.
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Speaker 1: Ten, Coop, because like Metallica is sort of like our
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Speaker 1: common ground, right Coop, A lot of it. And I'm
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Speaker 1: telling you, there are a lot of songs that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would think I would know every lyric, and I
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Speaker 1: guarantee you that's wrong.
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, same for me with with Metallica too, And
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Speaker 6: I guarantee you there are certain songs where I think
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Speaker 6: I know the lyric and that's not the lyric at all. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: I'm like I'm singing some and completely wrong.
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Speaker 1: It happens a lot. Well, you know me, I'm a
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Speaker 1: metal guy primarily, not only not solely, but primarily, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'll be on Spotify and every now and
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Speaker 1: then I'll just click on the lyrics and I'll like
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Speaker 1: follow them along and I'm like, hold, I did I was?
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Speaker 1: I was wrong this whole time. I've listened to that
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Speaker 1: song hundreds of times, and I never bothered to just
21:24
Speaker 1: check if I was right or not. And I was
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Speaker 1: saying something that was wrong the whole time. Yeah, welcome
21:29
Speaker 1: to metal. You know who knew that could happen? But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I like that. Well, so what's the next one, Lorrainer?
21:36
Speaker 1: What was the song that you mentioned? We carry yoking?
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Speaker 1: That one too delicious?
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Speaker 6: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: If the world needs come on, what are we waiting
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Speaker 1: for here?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 3: Oh, how the.
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Speaker 7: Man tables have turned?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as much, you know, fire for this experiment? He Loreena. No, well,
22:05
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit later. I just don't want I
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Speaker 1: don't want you to be practicing, and you know I'll
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Speaker 1: be back, Coop. I got to run in the bathroom
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Speaker 1: real fast and you're just practicing.
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Speaker 7: Okay, hold on, I'll just I'll just do it.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, okay, all right, all right, very good.
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Speaker 9: This was like middle school days for me, like out
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Speaker 9: on the school yard.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear, you know, cleaning up my closet
22:31
Speaker 1: the karaoke version next time you're on stage, Coop. That
22:35
Speaker 1: was very well done.
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Speaker 7: Oh this scares me?
22:41
Speaker 1: Are there a lot of cuss words in this one, Lorena,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Hold on, this is a horrible version of for Delicious.
22:49
Speaker 1: Okay, you got to be in your zone.
22:50
Speaker 8: Year.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to work.
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Speaker 6: She already got a hint on the first couple of lyrics.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: No, no, his part is not my part.
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Speaker 1: Al right, that's right for sure.
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Speaker 6: So you don't know every lyric to the song. Just
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Speaker 6: just fergies.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know that's the part, right, Okay. Listen, y'all, Chris,
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Speaker 7: this is it.
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Speaker 10: Don't be slicious for delicious definition, make them boys go local,
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Speaker 10: they so they get them pleasures from my photo.
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Speaker 7: You can see me you kiss please me.
23:27
Speaker 3: I'm easy, I sleacy.
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Speaker 9: I know reasons why some boys just come and go
23:32
Speaker 9: like seasons for Delicious.
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Speaker 3: Look at this.
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Speaker 9: You a sin If you are suspicious, all that is fictitious.
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Speaker 7: I'll blow kisses. That puts them boys on rock.
23:44
Speaker 9: Rock and they be lying down the block just to
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Speaker 9: watch what I got.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the talent on this show. My gosh.
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Speaker 9: Technically I technically did mess up on the first part
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Speaker 9: because I started singing the second verse instead of the
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Speaker 9: first one.
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Speaker 7: But they're both.
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Speaker 1: Great, guys are so under paid.
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Speaker 7: Until it gets to the fast part, more impressive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I want to hear that.
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Speaker 9: The round always looking at me up and down, looking
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Speaker 9: at I just want to say you now, I am
24:11
Speaker 9: trying to round up drum a little mama. I don't
24:13
Speaker 9: want to take a man, and I know I'm coming
24:14
Speaker 9: off just a little bit conceited, and I keep on
24:16
Speaker 9: repeating how the boys want to eat up. But I'm
24:17
Speaker 9: trying to tell that it can't be treated like clientele
24:20
Speaker 9: because they say she delicious, vicious.
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Speaker 5: You know what?
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Speaker 1: It made me think of the part in the movie
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Speaker 1: where the Miller's you know, that comedy with Jason Skis.
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Speaker 7: And they like pay people to be his family so
24:33
Speaker 7: they ca yeah, yeah, right, yes, the border.
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Speaker 1: But the boy in like the fake family knows waterfalls
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Speaker 1: like way too much, and everyone's looking at him like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell does he know? All all these lyrics?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: That's what it made me think of. But very nicely done.
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Speaker 7: Wow, I think it's only fair. It's your turn.
24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I throw in some lamb of God for me
24:58
Speaker 1: real fast, that's the thing, because it won't sound right
25:04
Speaker 1: if I'm just like literally saying because I can't. I
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Speaker 1: can't do Coop's metal voice. Like Coop he greets me
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Speaker 1: every time and you can attest to this Lorrena whenever
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Speaker 1: I chime in, right like I connect for the fill
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Speaker 1: in shift and Coop will just be like, what in
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Speaker 1: this metal voice?
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Speaker 7: And I'm like, it's perfect, Coop.
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Speaker 1: You need to be on stage somewhere. Man, that is
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Speaker 1: so metal right there. I like, I can't sing like that.
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Speaker 1: I can't do that like from the throat type stuff.
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Speaker 1: I can't yell like that.
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Speaker 6: I don't know how long I would be able to
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Speaker 6: do it for. Like you know, I say, I say,
25:38
Speaker 6: what up?
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Speaker 1: But yeah, great job that. Yeah, I don't know, yeah right, yeah,
25:44
Speaker 1: but the man, metal is a different it's a different
25:46
Speaker 1: ballgame right there. To keep up with those guys, I
25:49
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. I could say the lyrics you know,
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Speaker 1: on time, but I couldn't. I couldn't do him in
25:56
Speaker 1: a metal voice. Yeah, I don't know often, man, I
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Speaker 1: don't know a metal song off the top of my head.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know Ruin, I'll tell you right now. I
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Speaker 1: won't know all.
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Speaker 7: The you knew the name of it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that man. Let me think, let
26:15
Speaker 1: me let me look at Spotify, let me look at something.
26:19
Speaker 1: Let me look at my my Spotify list, and uh,
26:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are many songs. I'm sure there's like
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Speaker 1: some Metallica songs. I would know front and back?
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Speaker 7: What you got any Shakira songs? You could do? Front
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Speaker 7: and back?
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Speaker 1: Dua lipa? For sure?
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Speaker 7: There we go.
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Speaker 1: They're playing dua in the gym today. Lorena is very
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Speaker 1: mun Uh you know what, I shazamed it it was.
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Speaker 1: Let me see, I'll tell you real quick.
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Speaker 7: You know, she's a very tall woman.
26:47
Speaker 1: She is a very tall woman at a skying five eight.
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Speaker 1: That Shakira over there or that dual leap over there.
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Speaker 6: Shakira is not a tall woman.
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Speaker 1: How tall is Shakira?
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Speaker 6: I think she's like five to one, isn't she?
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Speaker 8: Wow?
27:03
Speaker 7: That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: No, they don't. Still they don't training season. That was
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Speaker 1: the Dua Lipa song that they played at the gym today.
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Speaker 1: Good song. I didn't know it by name.
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Speaker 7: I don't even think I know that song.
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Speaker 1: You definitely know it, but you don't know it by name.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you know this song, but I'm like, that's
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Speaker 1: the title of it. Had no idea, but yeah, I
27:24
Speaker 1: couldn't do that one. Yeah, let me let me report
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Speaker 1: back to you. Okay, let me. I'm not gonna cheat.
27:32
Speaker 1: This is a non cheating show. But I'll look for
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Speaker 1: a metal song and just kind of like recite the
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Speaker 1: lyrics if you will. Oh, I know a good one
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Speaker 1: would be Ah Didtohead from Slayer because he's going so fast.
27:44
Speaker 1: That'd be a good one. He's like here in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety four, things are different than before. Final just won't
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Speaker 1: be adored. Real fast song, Okay, real good song. Yeah,
27:55
Speaker 1: go with see if you can punch up Slayer Dittohead. No,
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Speaker 1: he does drop an F bomb. I don't don't know
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Speaker 1: if there's a clean version of that.
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Speaker 7: We can dump it if needed.
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Speaker 1: Okay, uh yeah, no, that'd be a good one. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let me know if you can find that one eight seven,
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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. If you feel like doing
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Speaker 1: some karaoke on the fly, you know, we'll just punch
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Speaker 1: it up and have at it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I can't see a clean version, but let's see what the.
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Speaker 6: Scott Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay, Yeah, break it up.
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Speaker 1: We're good now.
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Speaker 7: Now, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, then we're safe now. For a little bit until
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Speaker 1: the Yeah, until the next person there's me. It's okay,
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Speaker 1: Tom's the best, okay to regret. Tom's all high, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's a high voice, right, yeah, but oh Slayer's got
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Speaker 1: some great susod there you go. Nice, all right, great
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Speaker 1: job all three of us. Huh some as a legendary
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Speaker 1: Ben Meller fill in segment. And it didn't include sex
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Speaker 1: toys in the WNBA yet again it does now it does.
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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox is your number?
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Speaker 5: All right?
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Speaker 1: Let me get to a couple of people want to
29:33
Speaker 1: check in on Jalen Hurts. So I think we've got
29:36
Speaker 1: Matt in Seattle up next. What's going on, Matt? You're
29:39
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio.
29:41
Speaker 11: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I am let me
29:45
Speaker 11: just start off ay think I'm not a Jalen Hurts
29:46
Speaker 11: fan at all. I'm a full Seahawks, Mariners, Seattle sports fan,
29:51
Speaker 11: and so I feel a little bit of shamed here
29:53
Speaker 11: that I'm coming to his defense here a little bit.
29:56
Speaker 11: But I think I think you're kind of missing. Where
29:59
Speaker 11: Jalen hurt adds value to the Eagles offense is not
30:04
Speaker 11: with his passing ability. I mean, he's as a passer,
30:07
Speaker 11: I agree, mediocre at best, but I don't think and
30:13
Speaker 11: I'd have to look up the stats to be sure,
30:15
Speaker 11: and I'm driving not going to be doing that, but
30:17
Speaker 11: I don't think there's another quarterback in the NFL that
30:21
Speaker 11: has converted more first downs than Jalen Hurts on short
30:24
Speaker 11: yardage situation. That guy extends drives for the Eagles like
30:29
Speaker 11: nobody else in the NFL does. And I think the
30:32
Speaker 11: reason that he is going to get that kind of
30:34
Speaker 11: value from the oddsmakers is because he increases the opportunities
30:39
Speaker 11: for the Eagles offense to go down the field and score,
30:42
Speaker 11: because he's like a cheat code on third and fourth
30:44
Speaker 11: down and short.
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Speaker 1: I mean there's some fairness to that. I'll give him
30:48
Speaker 1: credit for, you know, the tush bush and listen, he
30:52
Speaker 1: squats the weight room. He's incredibly strong player, not just quarterback.
30:58
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's no But how often does short yardage
31:02
Speaker 1: come up like it does come up? I mean when
31:05
Speaker 1: you're on the goal line and he scores a bunch
31:06
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. There's value, but I don't think we can
31:10
Speaker 1: make it out to be as valuable as being a
31:12
Speaker 1: great passer. I'd rather have a great passer every day.
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Speaker 8: Then. I don't know who's his backup.
31:18
Speaker 1: It's uh Tanner McKee, now, okay, yeah, right, yeah, it's
31:27
Speaker 1: the guy out of Stanford. You know, Tanner McKee. It's
31:30
Speaker 1: come on, Cooper, you're not down with Tanner Mckee've never
31:34
Speaker 1: heard of him. Yeah, Coop gave us a hoop. Yeah, man, hey,
31:41
Speaker 1: there you go. I make a noise right there, for sure. No,
31:45
Speaker 1: it's a good point by Matt. That does add some
31:47
Speaker 1: value that I don't want to short change that. The
31:50
Speaker 1: the tush push, brotherly shove type stuff. Yes, if it's
31:54
Speaker 1: third and one, fourth and one, it's basically an automatic
31:57
Speaker 1: first down or an automatic touchdown if they're at the
32:00
Speaker 1: one yard line, So that certainly adds value. It does,
32:05
Speaker 1: But to the tune of six point three points against
32:09
Speaker 1: the spread, whether he's playing or the backups playing, I
32:12
Speaker 1: don't buy it. And the other thing is he's behind
32:15
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football. So is he doing
32:19
Speaker 1: that on any team in the NFL. I don't think
32:23
Speaker 1: it's as automatic with any team in the NFL. And
32:27
Speaker 1: I know Josh Allen He's not on a Jalen Hurts level,
32:30
Speaker 1: but they've had a lot of success converting short yardage
32:34
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and doing the quarterback sneak stuff. While
32:38
Speaker 1: we're talking Hurts, let me go to Bear in Tennessee.
32:40
Speaker 1: He's got some thoughts on Jalen Hurts as well. What's
32:42
Speaker 1: going on Bear?
32:49
Speaker 8: Nice?
32:50
Speaker 1: Love it? What's going on Bear?
32:52
Speaker 8: Not much? I just think it out joining and what's fun?
32:55
Speaker 5: But get a mask, Kyle that he pretty much hit
32:58
Speaker 5: the point I was trying to. You know, I agree
33:02
Speaker 5: with you with him his overall ranking as far as
33:05
Speaker 5: a hierarchy, But you know, the whole article, I guess,
33:10
Speaker 5: was about how much he effected that team was a
33:14
Speaker 5: points in a game because if you put that channel
33:16
Speaker 5: key guy in, they will.
33:18
Speaker 8: Be scoring six points.
33:19
Speaker 5: So that's a game. I mean, come out now, I
33:21
Speaker 5: don't even know who that guy is, So I kind
33:24
Speaker 5: of agree with that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but Bert, you're saying, like it's not just
33:28
Speaker 1: specifically Tanner McKee. It's this starter versus the backup quarterback. Like,
33:34
Speaker 1: I don't think Tanner McKee, he probably doesn't rank in
33:37
Speaker 1: the top ten of backup quarterbacks, you know what I mean.
33:40
Speaker 1: So I don't know that it's specifically Tanner McKee as
33:43
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts back up. If that is what directly factors
33:47
Speaker 1: in there, I don't know. Maybe it is. I don't
33:48
Speaker 1: know how they did that part of it, to be fair.
33:51
Speaker 5: About it, Oh, because I thought when you read it,
33:54
Speaker 5: I mean, that was a low while back, but when
33:56
Speaker 5: you read it off, I thought that's what the crack
33:58
Speaker 5: tier was. It was the start to compare to their
34:01
Speaker 5: backup on their team. So I was just going by
34:04
Speaker 5: there because yeah, you're right, not better than Joe Barrow.
34:07
Speaker 12: In any commns, you know what I mean, but right
34:12
Speaker 12: like the like the prayer car to say it, you know,
34:15
Speaker 12: he tur dras he short yarded it pretty much unstoppaball.
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Speaker 8: And you know, so if you keep the ball away
34:22
Speaker 8: from the defense, of course you know it's gonna sect
34:25
Speaker 8: the time to score of the game. So yeah, I
34:27
Speaker 8: would think he does affect the team to that novel,
34:30
Speaker 8: I would agree with him.
34:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I appreciate you checking in Bear
34:34
Speaker 1: for sure, and listen, I'll meet the last two callers
34:37
Speaker 1: halfway at least with Matt and Bear bringing up Jalen
34:41
Speaker 1: Hurts his running ability, especially short yardage running ability, and
34:46
Speaker 1: that's fair. We wouldn't knock Lamar Jackson like it is
34:51
Speaker 1: valuable with what Jalen Hurts brings to the table as
34:54
Speaker 1: far as that goes, But I would counter it with, like,
34:58
Speaker 1: how valuable exactly because we're not gonna knock Lamar for
35:04
Speaker 1: not doing the tush push, brotherly shove short yardage type stuff.
35:09
Speaker 1: He can still create with his legs and then he
35:11
Speaker 1: can also just turn around and hand the ball to
35:13
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and you're good regardless, you know what I mean.
35:17
Speaker 1: So even though it is valuable what Jalen Hurds does
35:21
Speaker 1: with his legs, we're talking short yardage and that sort
35:23
Speaker 1: of thing. I mean to the point where it's worth
35:27
Speaker 1: six points per game against the spread. And that's where
35:32
Speaker 1: I think too. I mean, you're talking about a quarterback
35:34
Speaker 1: not just with his team. But the way I think
35:37
Speaker 1: of it is, Okay, if we're gauging value, how do
35:40
Speaker 1: we look at this quarterback? On someone else's team. You know,
35:44
Speaker 1: how do we look at it with a much lesser
35:46
Speaker 1: supporting cast. I don't know if that was the point
35:49
Speaker 1: of their exercise. I think it should be, because I'm
35:53
Speaker 1: here to tell you Jalen Hurds is not worth six
35:56
Speaker 1: points against the spread on any team in the nf
36:00
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worth that much on his team,
36:03
Speaker 1: the Eagles, because he's not asked to do that much.
36:07
Speaker 1: He's not asked to do as much as other quarterbacks
36:10
Speaker 1: are asked to do. I'll put it this way, Jalen
36:13
Speaker 1: Hurts threw eighteen touchdown passes last season. If some of
36:17
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks on the list through LK. If Joe Burrow
36:21
Speaker 1: he threw forty three touchdown passes last season, If he
36:24
Speaker 1: threw eighteen, the Bengals might have had the number one pick.
36:28
Speaker 1: They would have had a top five, top ten pick.
36:30
Speaker 1: If he threw eighteen touchdown passes last season, you know
36:33
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like some of these guys, the league leaders.
36:37
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson threw forty one touchdown passes last season. If
36:40
Speaker 1: he threw eighteen, my gosh, you're talking about twenty three touchdowns.
36:46
Speaker 1: That difference a difference of twenty three touchdown passes. The
36:50
Speaker 1: Ravens are losing many more games if you take away
36:54
Speaker 1: twenty three touchdown passes. So that's the point. The Eagles,
36:58
Speaker 1: they're one of the best teams. They we had a
37:00
Speaker 1: you know, they're one of the best teams in the
37:03
Speaker 1: NFL last season. And Jalen hurts through eighteen touchdown passes.
37:09
Speaker 1: It just shows you how rich they are in talent
37:13
Speaker 1: around him. So I don't buy it, man, I don't
37:16
Speaker 1: think he's worth six points against the spread. I just
37:19
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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37:24
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Speaker 1: That's my girl, dua dua lipa. What's this called again, Loraina?
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Speaker 1: I didn't know the title of.
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Speaker 7: This is the training session song?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why did they name it that? Whatever? But you
38:26
Speaker 1: know this song, right, you've heard it before?
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Speaker 7: I do.
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Speaker 1: You don't know this one? Yeah, not that deep in
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Speaker 1: the do A game, I.
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Speaker 7: Guess apparently not deep enough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta get in those waters. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: heard it at the gym. I didn't know that was
38:41
Speaker 1: the title of it. Very catchy, catchy song, head bobbin song,
38:46
Speaker 1: You don't Move the Hips a little bit, good song,
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Speaker 1: solid song. I don't know if we still have Bill Bill,
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Speaker 1: they're ready to talk some Dodgers. I think Bill's with us.
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Speaker 1: Bill?
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Speaker 2: Brian, Is this.
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Speaker 11: Brian?
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Speaker 5: No, Yep, you soon for Ben. That's right, okay, Man,
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Speaker 5: I've been on hold for over an hour.
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Speaker 11: Oh man, okay, I just wanted to talk about Dodger baseball.
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Speaker 8: There, Bill with the reason?
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Speaker 5: You know why I really called.
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Speaker 1: Why is that you wanted to do a karaoke version
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Speaker 1: of the Great Southern Trend Killed by Panta.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 5: I called.
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Speaker 11: To say that I love you.
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Speaker 1: Well played, Bill, I love that very well done by you. Nice?
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Speaker 2: How much I care?
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Speaker 1: I just called to say, oh man.
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Speaker 11: I mean it's from the Bato my heart.
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Speaker 1: Man, that's beautiful. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: Bill.
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Speaker 1: That is awesome. Feel free to hang with us. We
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Speaker 1: got to go right now, but feel free to hang
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Speaker 1: We'll get to your Dodger thoughts on the other side
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Speaker 1: if you if you want to hang out for that.
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Speaker 1: By the way, true story. I passed Stevie Wonder on
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Speaker 1: the street one day in La right across from a
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Speaker 1: guitar center.