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The Kenny Report | 19 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Live from the sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program, Kayla Bond filling in
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Speaker 2: for Chris Tonight.
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Speaker 3: Well, first it.
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Speaker 4: Was the pages.
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Speaker 2: Now walkie talkies explode across Lebanon. Australia's population surges past
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Speaker 2: twenty seven million, fueling the country's housing crisis. Plus the
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Speaker 2: PM gets hot under the collar in a test exchange
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Speaker 2: on Radio. Well Climb A two hundred, which is the
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Speaker 2: mob that bankrolled the teerl Independence, is tonight hosting a
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Speaker 2: seminar called how to Win Lessons from Obama, Bernie and AOC.
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Speaker 2: Bernie is, of course, Bernie Sanders, an avowed socialist and
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Speaker 2: serial Democratic presidential primary candidate, and AOC is Alexandria Okazio Cortez,
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Speaker 2: one of the most left wing people in the US
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Speaker 2: Congress and also a complete nutter.
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Speaker 3: Said you, Ami, though, it's good to know that's.
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Speaker 4: Who the teals are looking to for inspiration.
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Speaker 2: I personally can't wait to see Manik Ryan Jay rating
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Speaker 2: around the stage.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: The bloke putting on this seminar is US election strategist
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Speaker 2: Zach Exley.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: The Australian reported today that he ran communications for Senator
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Speaker 2: Sanders twenty sixteen presidential bid. After working on Barack Obama's
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight campaign, He co established Justice Democrats
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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, one of the party's most left leaning
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Speaker 2: action committees, which helped elect AOC and Iliano Omar to Congress.
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Speaker 2: The group champions agree New Deal and ending arms sales
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Speaker 2: to Israel. So if you're in any doubt about who
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Speaker 2: the Teals actually are or what they actually believe in,
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Speaker 2: then this ought to put that to bid. Now they
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Speaker 2: might they've run in liberal seats and made it seem
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Speaker 2: like the only thing they cared about was climate change,
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Speaker 2: but when their donors are calling in socialists for strategic advice,
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Speaker 2: they ought to come clean about what they're really doing.
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Speaker 2: As The Australian also revealed this month, the Teals voted
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Speaker 2: with the Greens between seventy three and eighty one percent
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Speaker 2: of the time over the twenty seven months to August
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Speaker 2: twenty two, and they voted as a block eighty three
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Speaker 2: percent of the time, despite insisting that they're all independent,
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Speaker 2: and the Teals are planning to take on Adelaide at
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Speaker 2: the next election now too, with an outfit called Independent
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Speaker 2: for Sturt calling for potential candidates. Climate two hundred has
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Speaker 2: invited them to apply for funding. Now Independent for Sturt
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Speaker 2: says it has no political affiliations, but it's run by
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Speaker 2: a woman named Emma Fletcher. She worked for the former
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Speaker 2: South Australian Labor Premier Mike Ran. She also has a
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Speaker 2: firm called Democracy Co. They ran a citizen's jury in
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen which then Premier Labor Premier Jay Weatherill used
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Speaker 2: to kill the idea of a nuclear waste dump. They're
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Speaker 2: not Teals, they're Greens and labor with a paint job.
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Speaker 2: Now may I humbly suggest that we are stuffed as
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Speaker 2: a country. Now, you Martin think that's a revelation, But
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Speaker 2: the numbers on this are so stark. Young Australians have
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Speaker 2: no national pride. This is from a new poll by
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Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs. They found that if Australia
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Speaker 2: was in the same position as Ukraine being invaded and
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Speaker 2: going to war, barely a third of people aged eighteen
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Speaker 2: to twenty four would stay and fight. Twenty seven percent
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Speaker 2: said they would defend their country. That was down five
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Speaker 2: percent from the last time they ran the pole in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Nearly forty eight percent said they'd flee
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Speaker 2: the country. That was up eight percent from the last survey.
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Speaker 2: And you can blame the kids, but it's not all
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Speaker 2: their fault. It's the fault of those who have raised
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Speaker 2: and taught them the anti Western rot with which they're
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Speaker 2: minds have been filled. They're taught that climate change will
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Speaker 2: make the planet uninhabitable and they're essentially hurtling towards a
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Speaker 2: grisly fire fueled or rising sea level drowning induced death.
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Speaker 2: They're taught in schools that they live on stolen land,
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Speaker 2: that we are essentially a racist country, that the colonization
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Speaker 2: of Australia has done more harm than good, and none
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Speaker 2: of this is an accident. The long March through the
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Speaker 2: institutions is designed to erode trust in the West so
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Speaker 2: its ideals freedom, systems of government can all be replaced
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Speaker 2: by socialism. And evidently it's been a successful march. I mean,
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Speaker 2: why would you stay and defend your country from invasion
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Speaker 2: by an authoritarian regime when you feel like there.
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Speaker 4: Is nothing worth defending. Why would you defend your homeland
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Speaker 4: when the whole world is going to burn to a
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Speaker 4: crisp anyway?
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Speaker 2: Why fight to protect a country that is apparently so
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Speaker 2: nasty and oppressive, and in which you don't belong anyway,
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Speaker 2: because the whole joint was stolen. To fight for your country,
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Speaker 2: you must believe you are not just fighting for land,
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Speaker 2: but for what is right. Young people don't feel pride
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Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 4: They feel shame. They've been taught to feel shame.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: The great irony, of course, is that the left has
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Speaker 2: sown these thoughts because they'd like to eventually take over
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Speaker 2: with their Kumbayaur version of inclusion and equity and happy feelings.
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Speaker 2: The more likely scenario, though, is that a mob like
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Speaker 2: China comes to take over the joint and there will
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Speaker 2: be no one left to defend the weak leftist academics
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Speaker 2: because they convinced their students that this country was a dump.
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Speaker 2: Now I've railed against the insidious phenomenon of cancel culture
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Speaker 2: for some time. Of course, it's when someone is drummed
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Speaker 2: out of public life or crowd into silence for some
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Speaker 2: kind of unproven crime, or saying the wrong thing, or
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Speaker 2: maybe saying a racist joke a decade ago that you
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Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't say now. It's basically moral puritan Well, it's
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Speaker 2: nice to see some of the people who've engaged in
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Speaker 2: it are finally waking up to its dangers. Australian singer
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Speaker 2: songwriter Tim Minchin wrote a song eight years ago about
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Speaker 2: how George Pell and how he should come back to
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Speaker 2: Australia from the Vatican to face a Royal commission into
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Speaker 2: sorry institutional child abuse.
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Speaker 6: Others Cardinal you pomp.
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Speaker 2: Shame. Pell was of course later convicted and then acquitted
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Speaker 2: of child sexual abuse. Well Minchin now says that he
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Speaker 2: regrets how he conducted himself at the time.
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Speaker 7: I've been part of massive public shaming with with Pell
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Speaker 7: and stuff and stuff I reflect on now and we
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Speaker 7: can get to that. But but the other thing that
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Speaker 7: we don't examine is not just is there an absence
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Speaker 7: of utility, but what are the possible unintended consequence? And
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Speaker 7: now we have ten years of data, twelve years of data,
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Speaker 7: and the unintended consequence is a divided nation like America.
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Speaker 7: And my question for Australians listening to this is you
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Speaker 7: want to follow them?
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Speaker 2: He now says that public shaming cancel culture is all
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Speaker 2: good and well when you think that you have the
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Speaker 2: moral high ground, but the problem is what happens when
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Speaker 2: today's hunter becomes tomorrow's hunted.
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Speaker 7: Do I think public shaming is the right mechanism for
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Speaker 7: change as a rule in a post social media world?
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Speaker 7: And I think probably we should be very very careful
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Speaker 7: with public shaming as a rule, because how why are
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Speaker 7: you the moral arbiter, I mean the moral certainty of
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Speaker 7: some people online. You're like yeah, and you know they go,
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Speaker 7: it's not it's not cancel culture. It's holding people to account.
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Speaker 7: Who are you, kiddo? Like, maybe you're holding people account,
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Speaker 7: maybe you're getting it wrong. You're a child, like you're
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Speaker 7: just part of a mob doing moral justice through your lens. Right,
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Speaker 7: So I have a problem with public shaming cannot be
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Speaker 7: the primary mechanism because it will just it'll come for you.
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Speaker 7: I wrote about it in my song fifteen Minutes of Shame.
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Speaker 7: You know they'll turn on you if you stumble, it'll
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Speaker 7: come for you. Not just you straight white guy, not
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Speaker 7: just you rich colonialists, but you you know, non binary, whatever,
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Speaker 7: you lesbian, whatever.
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Speaker 2: And He's right, none of us are pure, none of
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Speaker 2: us are without sin. And those who hunt others for
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Speaker 2: their supposed crimes and thought crimes ought to take a
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Speaker 2: minute to consider whether they might one day be on
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Speaker 2: the receiving end of the barrage. He also took aim
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Speaker 2: at wokeness and performative lefties for again preaching their moral
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Speaker 2: virtue and the fact that it does more harm than good.
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Speaker 7: I would consider myself a left leaning, progressive, social progressive,
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Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I suppose I'm what I'm a lefty, right?
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Speaker 7: But am I like because I find the way my
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Speaker 7: ostensibly progressive friends act kind of appalling, because I don't
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Speaker 7: think it's progressive to call anyone you disagree with a fascist,
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Speaker 7: or cut or deliberately switch off your empathy for someone
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Speaker 7: because they're a race or agenda that you see as
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Speaker 7: an oppressor, not un oppressed to group people. It's happening
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Speaker 7: all the time. It's this thing that people call wokeness,
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Speaker 7: which is such a gross word, and I wish we
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Speaker 7: could replace it, because what it is is performative righteousness
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Speaker 7: with no So much of what goes on inline is
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Speaker 7: performing your righteousness to your own people. And I know
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Speaker 7: this because I did it for years.
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Speaker 2: Well bravo, Tim, I'm glad you've woken up, because when
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Speaker 2: you participate in cancel culture, you're on a hiding to nothing.
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Speaker 2: You might feel like you're the purest today, but there's
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Speaker 2: always someone more pure than you, and they will come
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Speaker 2: for you. Can we allow that to rule public debate,
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Speaker 2: then you eventually end up with no public debate because
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Speaker 2: there's only one set of opinions or thoughts that are
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Speaker 2: allowed to be aired. Poor old Tim, though, might need
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Speaker 2: witness protection soon because saying things like that won't go
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Speaker 2: down well with his lefty friends in the arts community.
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Speaker 2: And someone else who seems to have had a bit
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Speaker 2: of a come to Jesus moment on all this is
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Speaker 2: American News anchor Chris Cuomo. He was the top rating
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Speaker 2: host on CNN until he was fired in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: one for allegedly helping to cover up sexual harassment allegations
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Speaker 2: against his brother, who was then the governor.
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Speaker 4: Of New York.
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Speaker 2: Well he's since been at News Nation, where he is
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Speaker 2: still a lefty, but has perhaps been a bit more
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Speaker 2: inquisitive in conciliatory towards his political opponents. He's even done
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Speaker 2: a sit down interview with Tucker Carlson. Well now he
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Speaker 2: is one of the few people on the American left
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Speaker 2: who's had the guts to call out the horrendous victim
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Speaker 2: blaming against Donald Trump after the second assassination attempt against him.
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Speaker 2: Chris Cuomo was so disgusted by the response that he
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Speaker 2: actually picked up the phone to Trump to check that
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Speaker 2: he was okay.
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Speaker 8: I didn't know what to say. I kept going through
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Speaker 8: drafts and I just wasn't getting anywhere. It wasn't even
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Speaker 8: landing right with me. So I called former President Trump
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Speaker 8: and I didn't ask him any questions. I didn't go
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Speaker 8: after him about his role. I just wanted to know
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Speaker 8: how his family's taken this because I grew up like that.
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Speaker 1: I grew up worried.
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Speaker 8: About who was going to try to hurt my father.
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Speaker 8: And you can think what you want about Trump. He
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Speaker 8: does not have many more full throated critics of what
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Speaker 8: he says and does than me. Okay, And yet I
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Speaker 8: called him today because I am ashamed of how we
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Speaker 8: are responding and not responding to the threats on him.
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Speaker 8: And I feel for his family. And I know you
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Speaker 8: can roll your eyes and say, oh, yeah, he has right. Listen,
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Speaker 8: that's your choice, and I think it's a wrong choice, Okay.
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Speaker 8: And I got to tell you, I don't know how
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Speaker 8: he stays in the race. I don't know how he
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Speaker 8: got up after being shot in the head, and you
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Speaker 8: people who try to mitigate that, you need to check yourself.
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Speaker 2: Bravo, someone on the left in the American media who
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Speaker 2: can see that the inflammatory rhetoric of Biden and Harris
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Speaker 2: and their mates calling him a threat to democracy in
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Speaker 2: the world as bad as Hitler, Stalin, Mussolino.
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Speaker 4: You know, got to put him in the bulls eye.
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Speaker 4: All this stuff.
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Speaker 2: It has inflamed the tensions that have led to people
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Speaker 2: trying to take Donald Trump's life.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: I'll have more to say on this on the Media
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Speaker 2: Show tomorrow. Make sure you tune in at nine pm
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Speaker 2: because I'll have every example of the media trying to
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Speaker 2: blame Trump for nearly getting himself killed. But what you
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Speaker 2: saw from Cuomo there is what we are sadly losing
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Speaker 2: from politics at a rapid rate, civility and humanity. And
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Speaker 2: beyond the fact that people are trying to kill a
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Speaker 2: political candidate, which is shocking, this is part of what
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Speaker 2: has made me so sad about this situation.
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Speaker 4: More broadly, I.
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Speaker 2: Mean, imagine looking at your political opponent nearly being assassinated
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Speaker 2: and thinking, well, the bastard deserved it. Imagine blaming him
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Speaker 2: for bringing it upon himself, wishing death upon him.
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Speaker 4: And I know we all.
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Speaker 2: Make jokes about people we don't like, Oh they should
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Speaker 2: be shot, and that's fine when it's a blue joke.
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Speaker 2: But if your first response to a former president nearly
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Speaker 2: being killed isn't oh my god, this is awful and
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Speaker 2: it must be stopped, then you are part of the problem.
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Speaker 2: Politics is meant to be about people, about you and me,
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Speaker 2: the people who are meant to be represented by politicians,
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Speaker 2: and we usually get the best outcomes when people from
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Speaker 2: across the political aisle can disagree vehemently but still work together.
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Speaker 2: That's what we're losing. And going back to the point
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Speaker 2: about cancel culture, that's what it does.
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Speaker 4: It divides us.
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Speaker 2: I've always had lefty friends, and I hope they always do,
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Speaker 2: because even though we might disagree, I don't think their
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Speaker 2: politics automatically makes them bad people. And if you can't
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Speaker 2: mix with people with whom you disagree, then you can
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Speaker 2: never challenge yourself, and that's a terrible thing for the mind.
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Speaker 2: Many on the left, though, do think your politics can
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Speaker 2: make you a bad person. They don't just hate conservative thought,
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Speaker 2: they hate conservatives themselves because for them everything is so
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Speaker 2: personal and that's how you end up with two people
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Speaker 2: trying to shoot a Republican president in a matter of months.
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Speaker 4: And while we're on.
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Speaker 2: Us politics, before we get to the other big issues
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Speaker 2: of the day, I want to give you a bit
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Speaker 2: of a laugh. Have a listen to this bloke in
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Speaker 2: the Bronx explaining that he's going to vote for Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris because, wait for it, Donald Trump would close down
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Speaker 2: all the strip joints.
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Speaker 1: I work for Harris to win. Why has Well?
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Speaker 9: I don't really trust the Republicans right now, Like I
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Speaker 9: like to go to the strip club and stuff, and
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Speaker 9: I don't trust them. I think they're going to close
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Speaker 9: down the strip clubs. You see, look they just reverse
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Speaker 9: roll versus Wade, right, Okay, am I wrong? I think
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Speaker 9: they're against that and you can't.
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Speaker 6: Trust and you see that as related to the strip clubs.
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Speaker 1: Where did that come from with them?
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Speaker 4: I don't know the first I've ever heard about strip
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Speaker 4: club Like, why do you think Republicans will close out?
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Speaker 9: I've been talking about it with my friends, and that's
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Speaker 9: on the agenda. They want, they don't want, they don't
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Speaker 9: like that, They're not into that. They don't like people
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Speaker 9: into that.
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Speaker 1: Stuff.
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Speaker 6: So you're gonna vote on November fifth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking Mela Harris.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's gonna keep the strip clubs open.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Goodness sake, something tells me the bloke who's married to
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Speaker 2: a woman twenty four years. He's junior who did nude
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Speaker 2: modeling and he owned. Of course the Miss Universe pageants
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Speaker 2: ain't about to ban strip clubs, but it's a good
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Speaker 2: reminder these people vote too.
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Speaker 4: Well. First it was pages.
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Speaker 2: Now walkie talkies owned by his ballar terrorists have been
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Speaker 2: exploding across Lebanon, killing at least twenty people and injuring
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Speaker 2: hundreds more. He's the lightest from Sky News UK.
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Speaker 10: The funerals had barely begun when there was more terror.
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Speaker 10: This was Nobatia in the south of the country. Yet
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Speaker 10: more panic, this time at the funeral of those killed
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Speaker 10: in the string of pager explosions less than twenty four
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Speaker 10: hours earlier. Witnesses said radios in cars appeared to blow
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Speaker 10: and nearby vehicles were hastily driven away. Others posted on
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Speaker 10: social media about how their two way radios had exploded.
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Speaker 10: It was the battery, he's saying.
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Speaker 11: Experts say the pages were tampered with before they were distributed.
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Speaker 11: This was likely done by putting a small amount of
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Speaker 11: explosives inside each of them, along with a detonator. The
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Speaker 11: battery would act as a power saw. A signal could
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Speaker 11: be then sent over the network to trigger the explosion.
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Speaker 11: A similar technique could have been used for the radios.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Alex Rifchin from the Executive Council of
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Speaker 2: Australian Jury. Alex, of course, Sir Israel has not commented
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Speaker 2: specifically on this.
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Speaker 6: They really do.
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Speaker 2: But how on earth do you manage to coordinate something
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Speaker 2: like this?
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Speaker 12: Well, really, it's an active ingenuity and whether it is
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Speaker 12: Israel or someone else, and has BLA has plenty of
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Speaker 12: foes regional and global, this would have taken incredible enterprise
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Speaker 12: and ultimately the target here was very specified. It was
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Speaker 12: very specific to HASBLA operatives, the ones that received the pages.
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Speaker 12: There's a lot of disinformation floating around about how this
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Speaker 12: was an attack on anyone carrying mobile at device or
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Speaker 12: could be you know, it could be carried out in
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Speaker 12: such a way, which is a nonsense. This was targeted
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Speaker 12: at those individuals who want to do Israel harm, who
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Speaker 12: hate the West, who hate our country, and who have
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Speaker 12: mastermind have been carried out terrorist attacks throughout the world,
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Speaker 12: targeting Westerners, targeting Jewish civilians, Israelis, and are currently waging
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Speaker 12: a horrific war against Israel where tens of thousands of
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Speaker 12: Israelis have had to flee their homes in the North
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Speaker 12: and can't return. And it shows if this was Israel,
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Speaker 12: the lens that the country will go to to protected citizens.
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Speaker 12: Israel is a tremendous ally to its allies. It gives
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Speaker 12: the benefit of all its ingenuity. It's biotech, it's medicine,
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Speaker 12: it's agricultural technology.
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Speaker 5: But if you seek to do with citizens harm, it
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Speaker 5: will reach you.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just an extraordinary bit of military work
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Speaker 2: to do something so targeted as that, and obviously undetected
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Speaker 2: for quite some time, until of course they finally detonated
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Speaker 2: the pages and the walking talkies and other electronics apparently.
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Speaker 2: But I suppose the next question now is what sort
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Speaker 2: of response would we expect to see from Hezbollah from
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Speaker 2: Lebanon against Israel.
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Speaker 12: Well, look, Hasbalah has suffered a severe blow or blow
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Speaker 12: to their self confidence, to their prestige. Whoever carried this
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Speaker 12: out has shown that they can reach their operatives wherever.
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Speaker 12: And however, Israel showed that with the assassination of the
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Speaker 12: Ishmachhania in Tehran, one of the heads of Hamas, and
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Speaker 12: this has been demonstrated here again. Now some will say
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Speaker 12: that this will lead to further escalation love and the
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Speaker 12: escalation of and add least. But the reality is that
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Speaker 12: has Blah exists for the sole purpose of destroying Israel
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Speaker 12: and killing its civilians and killing the Jewish people around
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Speaker 12: the world wherever it finds them. It seeks out any
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Speaker 12: opportunity to do that. And by taking out some of
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Speaker 12: its operatives, by accounts quite at large number of its operatives,
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Speaker 12: it has weakened has Bla's ability to wage war and
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Speaker 12: do harm.
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Speaker 5: This is a victory for peace.
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Speaker 2: Now, alex We saw overnight the motion at the UN
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Speaker 2: from the Palestinian authority calling for Israel to pull out
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Speaker 2: of Gaza. The US voted against it, Papua New Guinea, Fiji,
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Speaker 2: in number of our allies, the US was advising Australia
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Speaker 2: to vote against it. Ultimately Australia abstained from the vote.
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Speaker 4: What do you make of that?
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Speaker 5: We're very, very disappointed with this.
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Speaker 12: This is a real blow, a blow to an ally
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Speaker 12: that is fighting for its very survival on multiple fronts,
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Speaker 12: and for Australia to behave in this way. To look
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Speaker 12: at that resolution which should have been rejected. Absolutely, it's
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Speaker 12: one of the most extreme formulations we've seen. It casts
20:21
Speaker 12: Israel as the sole aggressor as the cause of the conflict,
20:24
Speaker 12: which is contrary to truth and to fact.
20:26
Speaker 5: And to law.
20:28
Speaker 12: It calls for unilateral withdrawal of Israel from contested territories
20:31
Speaker 12: within a very limited time frame, and we know the
20:34
Speaker 12: history of utulateral withdrawal both by Israel and Gaza and
20:37
Speaker 12: other territories and in countries around the world. It leads
20:40
Speaker 12: to the most violent extreme actors in that society feeling
20:43
Speaker 12: that back and feeling that void. It leads to more
20:45
Speaker 12: war rather than a de escalation. Really, we're bitterly disappointed.
20:50
Speaker 12: We didn't expect this and we feel it's no way
20:54
Speaker 12: to treat a friend in a time of crisis.
20:56
Speaker 2: I think it's just weak from the federal government, to
20:58
Speaker 2: be perfectly honest. You know, even if they have misgivings
21:02
Speaker 2: about the war, surely anyone with half a brain cell
21:06
Speaker 2: can see that simply pulling out of Gaza is not
21:09
Speaker 2: going to stop, or in fact, it would inflame it
21:11
Speaker 2: further because it gives a more opportunity for Hamas to
21:15
Speaker 2: continue on with it.
21:16
Speaker 4: Sir barbarity, Alex Friftan, thank you so much for your.
21:18
Speaker 5: Time, Thank you so much.
21:20
Speaker 2: Well, now look I have to break some bad news
21:22
Speaker 2: to you. Tim Tams are now six dollars a packet.
21:26
Speaker 2: I know, it's outrageous, an Australian even perhaps, And God
21:30
Speaker 2: help you if you want to dunk your Tim Tams
21:31
Speaker 2: in a cup of coffee, because now we're being told
21:34
Speaker 2: that that could go up to seven dollars a cup
21:36
Speaker 2: because overheads have gone through the roof. And yet Treasurer
21:39
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers reckons inflation is on the decline. Well, we
21:43
Speaker 2: saw today that there's been no change to the unemployment
21:46
Speaker 2: rate that's stuck at four point two percent, which makes
21:48
Speaker 2: it harder for the Reserve Bank to consider any rate cuts.
21:52
Speaker 2: That's the last thing the government wants to hear. But meanwhile,
21:55
Speaker 2: in the US overnight they cut interest rates by half
21:57
Speaker 2: a percentage point for the first time in four years.
22:00
Speaker 2: Is an Inflation in the UK has stayed steady at
22:03
Speaker 2: two point two percent, charmers see today it's an unpredictable time.
22:08
Speaker 13: Global economy is a pretty uncertain place. That's one of
22:11
Speaker 13: the reasons why we're seeing these rate cuts in places
22:15
Speaker 13: like the US. When it comes to the Australian situation,
22:18
Speaker 13: we've got inflation coming off pretty substantially. The Reserve Bank
22:23
Speaker 13: will weigh that up.
22:24
Speaker 2: Leif van Ansloin, founder of Macro Business, joins me now economist.
22:28
Speaker 4: Of course, and Leith, there was reporting in some.
22:30
Speaker 2: Of the newspapers today that there would potentially before interest
22:34
Speaker 2: rate cuts in Australia next year.
22:37
Speaker 4: How likely do you think that is?
22:39
Speaker 1: Look, it's a little bit too early to say, Caleb.
22:41
Speaker 14: Obviously today's stronger than expected labor market report would obviously
22:47
Speaker 14: stay the RBA's hand. I think we can pretty much
22:51
Speaker 14: rule out rate cuts by the end of the year.
22:52
Speaker 14: Were the CBA is still tipping the rate cut before
22:55
Speaker 14: the end of the year, but I think that's pretty unlikely.
22:58
Speaker 14: The biggest thing here is pretty much everywhere all our
23:02
Speaker 14: comparison countries around the world are now all cutting rates.
23:04
Speaker 14: So we saw New Zealand cut rates last month. The
23:06
Speaker 14: Bank of Canada's done a view, the Bank of England
23:09
Speaker 14: and now obviously the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserves
23:12
Speaker 14: has projected another fifty basis points of cuts before the
23:16
Speaker 14: end of the year, another one hundred basis points next year,
23:18
Speaker 14: so they're going to be cutting pretty hard. So I
23:21
Speaker 14: think Australia was late to the interest rate hiking cycle
23:24
Speaker 14: party and it looks like we're going to be late
23:26
Speaker 14: on the way down as well.
23:27
Speaker 2: Exactly, and it's going to be hard for the federal
23:29
Speaker 2: government to sell that to the public at a federal election,
23:32
Speaker 2: particularly if we don't see an interest rate.
23:34
Speaker 4: Cut before then.
23:36
Speaker 2: But you've done some digging into these unemployment figures and
23:39
Speaker 2: you found that it's basically being propped up almost entirely
23:42
Speaker 2: by the NDIS and aged care jobs. So is this
23:46
Speaker 2: really reflective of the true employment market.
23:50
Speaker 14: Well, it's not really, No, No, the private sector economy
23:53
Speaker 14: is in a pretty deep recession. So we obviously got
23:55
Speaker 14: the gum Court of National account show that the overall
23:58
Speaker 14: economy is growing by point two percent, going backwards by
24:00
Speaker 14: point four percent in per capita terms, but all that's
24:04
Speaker 14: been driven by the public sector. So the public sector
24:06
Speaker 14: growth was one and a half percent, the private sector
24:08
Speaker 14: went backwards by point six percent of the GIN quarter
24:11
Speaker 14: and the latest quarterly labor market data from the ABS,
24:16
Speaker 14: who is only current to the March quarter, showed the
24:17
Speaker 14: government funded jobs grew by nearly two hundred and seventy
24:21
Speaker 14: thousand last financial year, but the market sector, which is
24:25
Speaker 14: the private sector, effectively only grew by thirty three thousand.
24:28
Speaker 14: So pretty much the economy at the moment has been
24:31
Speaker 14: driven by two things Caleb, massive population growth through immigration
24:35
Speaker 14: and also massive government spending and the private sectors in recession.
24:38
Speaker 2: Well quickly, before we go, you mentioned immigration. There the
24:41
Speaker 2: Australian population today ticked over to twenty seven million. Whatever
24:45
Speaker 2: happened to cutting migration, which the Albanesi government said they
24:48
Speaker 2: would do.
24:49
Speaker 14: Yeah, unfortunately it's not happening. So the Albanese government in
24:52
Speaker 14: the May federal budget tipped the net overseas migration would
24:55
Speaker 14: three hundred ninety five thousand last financial years, so twenty
24:58
Speaker 14: twenty three to twenty four the first three quarters of
25:02
Speaker 14: last financial year, so up to the March quarter we
25:04
Speaker 14: already had three hundred and eighty eight thousand, so we're
25:06
Speaker 14: almost at the amount they said we'd have, and that
25:09
Speaker 14: means that immigration is likely to blow past their target
25:13
Speaker 14: by at least one hundred thousand. So this is another
25:15
Speaker 14: miss target by the Albanese government. Immigration remains red hot
25:19
Speaker 14: and it's still ticking over it close to the highest
25:22
Speaker 14: levels in history, which is why I'm going to run
25:24
Speaker 14: a crisis.
25:25
Speaker 2: Correct And I suspect the other reason that they're doing
25:27
Speaker 2: it is because if they didn't, we would actually be
25:30
Speaker 2: in recession, not just effectively in recession, and that's another
25:33
Speaker 2: thing they don't want to see before a federal election.
25:36
Speaker 2: Leef and Ononslin, thank you so much well. Coming up
25:38
Speaker 2: our panel with Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson, we'll discuss
25:41
Speaker 2: Elbow's testing exchange with an ABC radio host plus Kamala Harris.
25:46
Speaker 2: Has she had some words of wisdom. We all know
25:48
Speaker 2: that's her favorite thing to do. I'll show you that next.
25:54
Speaker 2: All right, let's get straight into our panel tonight. Tim
25:56
Speaker 2: Blair from the Daily Telegraph and Mark Nicholson from step
25:59
Speaker 2: Mates Videos. Gents, welcome to the program. The Prime Minister's
26:03
Speaker 2: been on Radio National today, which normally you would think
26:06
Speaker 2: would be an easy ride, but he actually had a
26:09
Speaker 2: bit of a testy exchange with Patricia Carvilius.
26:12
Speaker 6: Take a listen to this.
26:13
Speaker 4: Are you saying negative gearing and capital gains.
26:16
Speaker 15: Tax concessions are absolutely off the table for you.
26:21
Speaker 16: Well, they're tax policies.
26:22
Speaker 4: But are those tax policies?
26:25
Speaker 10: Are those tax policies completely off the table for you?
26:28
Speaker 16: Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort
26:33
Speaker 16: of questions in the way that.
26:34
Speaker 4: You mean good ones.
26:35
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a good question.
26:37
Speaker 3: Are you going to say no to those or not?
26:41
Speaker 16: There are things that journalists The next question is when
26:43
Speaker 16: will the election be?
26:45
Speaker 4: That's not my next question.
26:46
Speaker 16: Yeah, well they're not terribly clever questions.
26:51
Speaker 4: Tim bang bang, Patricia shot me down.
26:56
Speaker 1: I did like how she included a review of her
26:58
Speaker 1: own work during the interview. Good questions. That's normal, not
27:04
Speaker 1: normally the run of things when you're dealing with the
27:06
Speaker 1: politician in a live interview, but like maybe we should
27:09
Speaker 1: all do it. You know, great question, Caleb, Great if
27:12
Speaker 1: you keep it up.
27:13
Speaker 2: Boys, this is the thing Mark right, You know, he's
27:18
Speaker 2: obviously feeling a bit of pressure at the moment. You
27:20
Speaker 2: don't think you do yourself any favors taking on p
27:24
Speaker 2: K like that.
27:27
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, he would have thought it was a friendly interview.
27:29
Speaker 17: But he was a cranky boy this morning. He wake
27:31
Speaker 17: up very cranky. I don't know what Maybe it was
27:33
Speaker 17: he looked at the US economy numbers. Maybe he didn't
27:35
Speaker 17: have his coffee. I don't know what.
27:36
Speaker 4: Happened, but yeah, he was.
27:37
Speaker 17: He was in a real he was a real filthy
27:39
Speaker 17: mood this morning. He was straight off. But when the
27:42
Speaker 17: US economy numbers came out and you know, cutting inflation,
27:45
Speaker 17: cutting in interest rates as well, it's a it's a
27:48
Speaker 17: it's a huge impression on how poor we are doing here.
27:51
Speaker 17: So he started off on the back foot from from
27:54
Speaker 17: from the very beginning. And he's got sort of two mechanisms.
27:57
Speaker 17: One is just to spin, and when he can't spin enough,
27:59
Speaker 17: he lit and he sort of said that where they've
28:03
Speaker 17: got a slower economy than us, when in reality, I
28:05
Speaker 17: think they've got four times the growth for what we do.
28:08
Speaker 17: And then the second one is just just to get defensive.
28:10
Speaker 17: And we see that albow in question time all the
28:12
Speaker 17: time as that belligerent, sort of angry, terse guy, not
28:17
Speaker 17: the sort of emotional, you know, heartfelt guy that if
28:21
Speaker 17: they're at press conference is you know that guy is
28:23
Speaker 17: sort of that's not real.
28:27
Speaker 2: Maybe Toto jumped up on the bed a little too
28:29
Speaker 2: early this morning, demanding to be fit.
28:31
Speaker 4: Why don't know.
28:34
Speaker 2: While we're on politicians, Tim, the MPs in New South
28:37
Speaker 2: Wales are being sent back to school. Essentially, they're now
28:41
Speaker 2: going to have to undergo sort of mandatory anti bullying
28:45
Speaker 2: training because they did some investigations into conducting Parliament House
28:48
Speaker 2: and found there was too much bullying and too much
28:51
Speaker 2: sexual harassment. I mean, for heaven's sake, these people are
28:54
Speaker 2: meant to be running the show, Tim, and they need
28:56
Speaker 2: to be put through these corporate modules.
29:00
Speaker 1: Well, most of us get out of the anti bullying
29:02
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, but sort of a kindergarten first couple
29:05
Speaker 1: of years of school thing, we had taught not to
29:07
Speaker 1: push smaller kids over or be pushed over in my case,
29:10
Speaker 1: you know, tragic smaller car. But I love in the
29:14
Speaker 1: wording of this they actually say something like, you know,
29:16
Speaker 1: there's an unacceptable level of sexism and sex behavior, Like
29:22
Speaker 1: there's an acceptable level. There's a level which is like, oh,
29:24
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's fine, that's Benny Held in the seventies.
29:28
Speaker 1: We can we can roll for that. But there's other
29:31
Speaker 1: sexism that's just way beyond the terrible.
29:34
Speaker 2: So to be confused, I wish they'd bring back Benny Hill,
29:38
Speaker 2: you know, I grew up on a diet of old
29:40
Speaker 2: British sitcomsw Benny Hill was brilliant, but because you probably.
29:43
Speaker 4: Couldn't show it these days. But I just can't get
29:47
Speaker 4: over how any of us.
29:49
Speaker 2: Mark meant to be held to any sort of standard
29:52
Speaker 2: when the people who are meant to.
29:53
Speaker 4: Be setting the standards clearly have no standards themselves.
29:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, k.
30:00
Speaker 17: But this part of me that's things is like, you know,
30:02
Speaker 17: forcing me to do bullying training seems like the sort
30:05
Speaker 17: of idea that an absolute loser would come up with.
30:07
Speaker 4: That's real gig behavior.
30:09
Speaker 17: They should they should be getting niggies and we should
30:11
Speaker 17: be flushing their heads down the done. I wouldn't be
30:13
Speaker 17: doing anti bullying and stuff. That's that's the stuff of wooses.
30:16
Speaker 17: That's not for me.
30:18
Speaker 2: We're going to have to put you through the training
30:20
Speaker 2: very soon if you're not.
30:21
Speaker 6: Tim.
30:22
Speaker 2: I have to say that there was a moment of
30:24
Speaker 2: levity in New South Wales Parliament this week seeing Mark
30:28
Speaker 2: late and take a look at this.
30:30
Speaker 6: I thank all the contributors I know to say when
30:32
Speaker 6: I move the motion.
30:33
Speaker 14: The Honorable Anthony Dada was jumping up to take a
30:36
Speaker 14: point of order.
30:37
Speaker 6: He jumped up that quickly.
30:38
Speaker 4: I thought his pager had gone off.
30:42
Speaker 1: A bit of a zinger. Tim, behind the time is Mark,
30:47
Speaker 1: because I understand it's now not hez Bala, it's hez
30:50
Speaker 1: la because they've lost their balls.
30:53
Speaker 2: Very good, very good now now, Mark, and I can
30:57
Speaker 2: see you're losing it there. But gin z it.
31:01
Speaker 4: Into which I fall.
31:03
Speaker 2: It's apparently between ninety ninety five and two thousand and nine.
31:06
Speaker 4: There's been a survey done.
31:08
Speaker 2: Into who's happy at work and who's not happy at work.
31:11
Speaker 2: I'm just telling the skybosses, I'm quite happy at work
31:13
Speaker 2: right now. But gen z are apparently the most unhappy
31:17
Speaker 2: people in the workplace. And meanwhile, the baby boomers are
31:20
Speaker 2: the happiest.
31:23
Speaker 17: Yeah, and interesting as well, OK, seventy one percent of
31:26
Speaker 17: government workers they're are really happy at work as well.
31:29
Speaker 17: But what is still surprising to me is that, yeah,
31:31
Speaker 17: one hundred percent of these people filled out a survey.
31:34
Speaker 17: I don't know about these people.
31:36
Speaker 6: What are they doing at work?
31:37
Speaker 17: If they're filling out surveys at work, I fear me.
31:42
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it could be a good way
31:44
Speaker 2: to avoid doing some work, and it might make them
31:46
Speaker 2: a bit happier. Tim, But I don't know whether you
31:48
Speaker 2: saw recently there was a campaign or at least a
31:50
Speaker 2: social media thing from the Health Department in Queensland where
31:55
Speaker 2: they were telling people that.
31:56
Speaker 4: It was okay to pooh at work. I mean, is
32:00
Speaker 4: that why they're all so unhappy?
32:01
Speaker 2: They they didn't realize, they didn't realize it was okay.
32:04
Speaker 2: I always thought that if you did it on company time,
32:06
Speaker 2: you were getting paid to go to the cars.
32:09
Speaker 1: I assume they meant do it in an appropriate venue.
32:16
Speaker 1: That'd be a bit dramatic. I always think when we
32:18
Speaker 1: get these sort of serves about workplace happiness and so on.
32:22
Speaker 1: There was a lovely line in Viz several decades ago, Viz,
32:25
Speaker 1: the British satirical magazine advising potential employers or to discard
32:32
Speaker 1: half of job application letters as soon as they arrive,
32:35
Speaker 1: because you don't want to hire unlucky people. So maybe
32:38
Speaker 1: that would sort of picks.
32:39
Speaker 4: Out fair enough. Now, Kamala Harris.
32:42
Speaker 2: Look, if there's someone who probably is experiencing some workplace
32:47
Speaker 2: happiness right now, it's Kamala Harris.
32:49
Speaker 4: She got rid of Joe Biden.
32:51
Speaker 2: She may well be the next president of the United States,
32:54
Speaker 2: even if she is doing a bad job. She doesn't
32:56
Speaker 2: realize she's doing a bad job, so she's quite happy anyway.
32:59
Speaker 2: But we've we've become used to these sort of nonsense
33:03
Speaker 2: one liners from her Mark and well, here's one of
33:06
Speaker 2: the latest.
33:07
Speaker 18: I grew up understanding the children of the community are
33:11
Speaker 18: the children of the community.
33:13
Speaker 4: Oh, the children of the community. Who would have known.
33:17
Speaker 4: I think we've heard this one before, though, you.
33:19
Speaker 10: Know, when we talk about our children. I know for
33:21
Speaker 10: this group, we are believe that when.
33:23
Speaker 15: We talk about the children of the community, they are
33:27
Speaker 15: a children of the community.
33:30
Speaker 4: What on earth is she on about?
33:31
Speaker 17: Mark, I'm so excited, callum drunk MAMAA drunk Mamaala is
33:37
Speaker 17: back and we are back in. They've gotten over confident
33:40
Speaker 17: after the after the debate, they just live. They've let
33:43
Speaker 17: off the strings just a little bit.
33:44
Speaker 6: They've let her flourish, go do her thing.
33:46
Speaker 17: They've gotten a bit over cocky, over confident. Now I've
33:48
Speaker 17: got a few love letters last week by saying that
33:50
Speaker 17: Trump lost the debate from from listeners and watchers of
33:54
Speaker 17: the show.
33:55
Speaker 6: We're very kind.
33:56
Speaker 1: I was just speaking the truth.
33:57
Speaker 4: But I think this.
33:58
Speaker 17: Is exactly what we need to be doing with her
34:00
Speaker 17: is just let her talk because she'll around herself. I'm excited.
34:03
Speaker 17: I wanted to keep going, keep going, Mama La.
34:05
Speaker 2: I want to see more of this, one hundred percent,
34:07
Speaker 2: just very quickly before we go, Tim have listen to
34:10
Speaker 2: Trump at a rally today.
34:12
Speaker 19: We can do all of this and more, but patriotic
34:15
Speaker 19: New Yorkers must get your asses out to vote.
34:19
Speaker 4: Got to get out, get together, Harry, Get up, Harry, Harry,
34:25
Speaker 4: get your.
34:25
Speaker 19: Fat ass out of the couch.
34:28
Speaker 3: You're going to vote for Trump today. Harry, get up, Harry,
34:32
Speaker 3: Come on, let's go. Let's go.
34:35
Speaker 4: Harry our bloody goods that Tim.
34:40
Speaker 1: Absolutely and now now we see it, New York is
34:43
Speaker 1: in play if Harry can get up, if we can
34:45
Speaker 1: now see the phrase fat ass in the presidential Campain,
34:52
Speaker 1: Anything's gonna happen, my friend, anything gonna happen. The entire
34:54
Speaker 1: reason sea bullets in play mate.
34:56
Speaker 2: The future of the world is on Harry's shoulders right now.
35:01
Speaker 2: Dim Blair market but sorry, he dim Blair, Mark Nicholson, thank.
35:08
Speaker 4: You for your time.
35:10
Speaker 2: Well coming up, Keith Pitts. Sorry on the PM's tough week.
35:13
Speaker 2: Plus more businesses are ending the work from home holiday. Hooray,
35:18
Speaker 2: I say they're ordering staff to return to the office.
35:21
Speaker 2: We'll get into that next. What's been a tough time
35:27
Speaker 2: for labor. The polls are pointing in the wrong direction.
35:29
Speaker 2: They can't get anything through the Senate, and today the
35:32
Speaker 2: PM turned his attention to the Coalition, though, hitting out
35:35
Speaker 2: at their nuclear.
35:36
Speaker 20: Policy months after promising this and saying the detail will
35:41
Speaker 20: be out there.
35:41
Speaker 16: They can't tell us how much they will cost.
35:43
Speaker 20: We know that they're going to be a couple of
35:45
Speaker 20: them here in Queensland sometime in the twenty forties that
35:49
Speaker 20: will combine create just four percent of our national energy needs.
35:55
Speaker 6: We need to do better.
35:55
Speaker 16: It's only labor that has a real plan going forward.
36:01
Speaker 2: National ZMP and former Resources Minister Keith Pitt joins me
36:04
Speaker 2: now from Bunderberg.
36:05
Speaker 4: A good bit of deflection there, Keith.
36:09
Speaker 15: Well, he's got to be good at something. It's not
36:12
Speaker 15: good at running the country, that's for sure.
36:15
Speaker 2: I just why would you bring up and I know
36:18
Speaker 2: he's a bit desperate for something to go for at
36:21
Speaker 2: the moment, but to go back to nuclear which you
36:24
Speaker 2: know that was an issue a month two months ago, right,
36:27
Speaker 2: Why did he think today was a good time to
36:29
Speaker 2: bring out that hori old chestnut again?
36:33
Speaker 8: All.
36:33
Speaker 6: From what I can recall, he was in Queensland.
36:35
Speaker 15: Whether the Miles government is going to get the absolute
36:38
Speaker 15: spanking they deserve from the Queensland voters. So it's pretty
36:41
Speaker 15: tough territory for any labor government at the moment. Across Queensland,
36:45
Speaker 15: you've got youth crime all over the place, ambulance ramping.
36:48
Speaker 15: It's just been such a disaster for the people of Queensland.
36:51
Speaker 15: For the state labor government, well, they've got to go.
36:53
Speaker 15: So mister Albaneze needs something to deflect away from the
36:57
Speaker 15: challenges of the day.
36:58
Speaker 6: We know what's happening with inflation. It's just not coming back.
37:00
Speaker 6: The Reserve Bank won't play political ball.
37:03
Speaker 15: They won't drop interest rates because they know they've got
37:05
Speaker 15: to keep inflation un control. You've got Daniel Bleversex canceling
37:10
Speaker 15: goal mines and thousands of jobs. You've got Jim Chalmers
37:12
Speaker 15: telling everybody it's okay, no problems at all, don't worry
37:15
Speaker 15: about those increases, will fix them all. I can understand
37:18
Speaker 15: why the PM's losing a few airs well.
37:20
Speaker 2: He mentions there, of course, the costings on the coalition's
37:23
Speaker 2: nuclear planned. When are we actually expecting to see some numbers.
37:29
Speaker 15: Well, I think he must be nostrodamis he's talking about
37:32
Speaker 15: them covering four percent of the current grid.
37:34
Speaker 6: Well, that's news to me and I'm in the coalition.
37:37
Speaker 15: So it'll come down to the type of the proposal,
37:40
Speaker 15: so which actual nuclear technology has been utilized, how big
37:44
Speaker 15: the facility is, and that will come down to a
37:46
Speaker 15: site by side assessment, because you still need to look
37:49
Speaker 15: at the geophysics. You need to ensure that all the
37:51
Speaker 15: technical pieces are signed off and that will work. There
37:54
Speaker 15: is significant water assets that a culified power plant. It's
37:58
Speaker 15: not just what's hanging around. Got the ash dams plus
38:01
Speaker 15: whatever water allocation they're using from underground, depending on the
38:04
Speaker 15: site and the location that there's a lot to this.
38:07
Speaker 15: It's technically challenging, but it works all over the place.
38:10
Speaker 15: It works in any number of other countries, so why
38:12
Speaker 15: wouldn't it work in Australia. We can put them in
38:14
Speaker 15: a submarine, we can put them on a block of concrete.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned before a Stephen Miles in Queensland, and of
38:21
Speaker 2: course you are in Queensland. What's the internal polling from
38:24
Speaker 2: the LNP showing in terms of how the state election
38:26
Speaker 2: is going to play out?
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Speaker 15: Mat I'd love to give you an exclusive, but I'm
38:31
Speaker 15: not going to. What I'm telling you is will campaign
38:35
Speaker 15: all the way till six o'clock on the Saturday.
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Speaker 6: And the Miles government does not deserve to be re elected.
38:41
Speaker 15: If you are having problems getting into a hospital and
38:43
Speaker 15: many people are, if you have huge cues, your ambulance ramping,
38:47
Speaker 15: and that's what's going on, and almost everyone knows someone
38:50
Speaker 15: impacted by youth crime. They've been an absolute disaster and
38:54
Speaker 15: they are spending more money than you could possibly believe.
38:57
Speaker 15: They will leave the coffers less than empty. Time for
39:00
Speaker 15: change of government. Let's show labor the door in twenty.
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Speaker 2: Four was worth a shot, just very quickly before we
39:06
Speaker 2: move on. As I mentioned before, the government struggled with
39:10
Speaker 2: their housing plan. This week we see today, As I
39:13
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show, the populations hit twenty seven million. Now,
39:17
Speaker 2: I mean there is no hope of making up the
39:20
Speaker 2: numbers we need to house all of these.
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Speaker 15: People, absolutely zero twenty seven million Australians. The population is
39:28
Speaker 15: increasing predominantly because of immigration. You've had more than a
39:31
Speaker 15: million people come in and there is literally nowhere to
39:34
Speaker 15: put them. And the government's proposal or they'll own forty
39:37
Speaker 15: percent of your house. Can you imagine your monthly, six
39:41
Speaker 15: monthly or yearly audits and inspections from the government for
39:43
Speaker 15: their forty percent, them directing your maintenance and what you've
39:46
Speaker 15: got to do, and the kids have bashed the wall
39:48
Speaker 15: with something or throw on the xbox and you have
39:50
Speaker 15: to fix it because the government wants their bit coven.
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Speaker 6: This is communism one oh one.
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Speaker 15: We want people to be able to access their super
39:57
Speaker 15: funds to buy a home because it's their money.
39:59
Speaker 2: Well, there was one lo who had elbow for a landlord,
40:01
Speaker 2: but he doesn't anymore because Albo sold the joint. I
40:03
Speaker 2: don't know why you'd want to suck.
40:05
Speaker 5: Up for that.
40:06
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time.
40:08
Speaker 2: Well, there's a new push from big businesses to get
40:10
Speaker 2: staff back into the office full time. Amazon's put an
40:13
Speaker 2: end to working from home, so has tab Corp boss
40:16
Speaker 2: Kilan McLachlin. He's, of course the former head of the AFL.
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Speaker 2: He sent a note out to staff that said, having
40:22
Speaker 2: us together as a team, focused and driving towards our
40:25
Speaker 2: goals will deliver outcomes and success. I have made no
40:30
Speaker 2: secret of the fact that I think people should get
40:32
Speaker 2: off their lazy asses and get back into the office
40:34
Speaker 2: joining me now, Amanda Rose, founder of Small Business Women Australia. Finally,
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Speaker 2: is there some movement getting people back into the office.
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Speaker 18: You know what's really interesting our goals for our success.
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Speaker 18: I didn't know the staff were getting a piece for
40:49
Speaker 18: the profit share of the company.
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Speaker 4: It depends what their contract.
40:52
Speaker 18: It's a perfect example.
40:54
Speaker 4: McLachlin gets a big.
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Speaker 18: Disconnect between employers and employees now. With Amazon in particular,
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Speaker 18: in twenty twenty two they got rid of eighteen thousand
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Speaker 18: jobs and in their announcement they actually talked about a
41:06
Speaker 18: restructure and that jobs will be lost. I think this
41:09
Speaker 18: is a ploy. I think this is their way to
41:11
Speaker 18: get people to quit without them having to pay redundancy.
41:14
Speaker 18: I don't think there's anything wrong with hybrid working. People
41:17
Speaker 18: are already in there three days a week. When you
41:19
Speaker 18: think of say mums, right, they've got to drop off
41:21
Speaker 18: the kids of daycare, get into the workplace and then
41:23
Speaker 18: come back. Three hours of travel is saved so they
41:27
Speaker 18: can spend more time with their children. So I think
41:30
Speaker 18: having that blanket five days in the office, no matter
41:33
Speaker 18: what approach, is actually quite insane for a lot of
41:36
Speaker 18: companies to do it these days, but also insensitive.
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Speaker 2: I think the problem is, though, if that's in your
41:41
Speaker 2: contract that you have a hybrid working arrangement, that's fine.
41:45
Speaker 4: That's between you and your employer.
41:47
Speaker 2: But a lot of people who certainly didn't have those
41:49
Speaker 2: things written into their contracts then, of course, were sent
41:52
Speaker 2: home during COVID, and they've expected their employer to just
41:56
Speaker 2: continue with that model after things open back up again.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's necessarily fair. If they're not
42:02
Speaker 2: the terms of your employment, why should your employer now
42:04
Speaker 2: have to accede to your demands?
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Speaker 18: Well, I agree, but also I think the employer should
42:09
Speaker 18: look at the productivity of that employee. So I've had
42:11
Speaker 18: staff in an office and work from home, and I
42:14
Speaker 18: can tell you it's got to do with a staff member.
42:17
Speaker 18: I've had staff members in the office absolutely wasting time,
42:20
Speaker 18: bothering everyone else, and they should work from home to
42:22
Speaker 18: leave everyone or just leave right. So I think it's
42:25
Speaker 18: an employee based productivity issue. So have more of a
42:29
Speaker 18: discussion with your employees. Talk to them about the business,
42:32
Speaker 18: but don't expect them to care about a massive global
42:36
Speaker 18: company saying it's our goals and our success when it's
42:39
Speaker 18: just a job to them, so incentivize them in different
42:42
Speaker 18: ways and have maybe a bit more understanding of why
42:45
Speaker 18: people need that hybrid arrangement.
42:46
Speaker 2: On the whole though, do you think businesses are moving
42:49
Speaker 2: more towards getting people back into the office or are
42:51
Speaker 2: most happy to stay with a hybrid mindel Well.
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Speaker 18: A lot of the job ads right now actually saying
42:56
Speaker 18: we have hybrid work from home as an incentive, so
42:59
Speaker 18: people will shift to that. But then you've got those
43:01
Speaker 18: that are in the city centers. So the government's pushing
43:03
Speaker 18: businesses to come back in so because of the small businesses,
43:07
Speaker 18: the cafes that are losing business. So maybe if they
43:10
Speaker 18: incentivize staff by saying we'll give you a voucher to
43:12
Speaker 18: buy from a local cafe, why're in, they'll come in,
43:16
Speaker 18: use the voucher and it's a win win win.
43:18
Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Kudafeed, he's down in Melbourne's running for Lord mayor,
43:21
Speaker 2: former AFIL footballer and he said we'll give people free
43:23
Speaker 2: coffees if they come back into the Melbourne Seabeds.
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Speaker 18: Well, the price of coffee right now, that is a
43:29
Speaker 18: very good.
43:29
Speaker 4: Point of teros.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
43:31
Speaker 2: Coming up, Former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer joins me as
43:34
Speaker 2: he joins Chris. Every week we'll talk about the tensions
43:36
Speaker 2: in the Middle East and the wave of these exploding devices,
43:39
Speaker 2: and webinon don't go away. Let's go back to this
43:45
Speaker 2: extraordinary story from Lebanon, where Israel has managed to blow
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Speaker 2: up thousands of pages and walking talkies that have been
43:52
Speaker 2: in the pockets of his Bala members joining me to
43:54
Speaker 2: discuss more. As former Foreign Minister Alexander down a lie
43:58
Speaker 2: from the great City of Adelaide. Alexander, I have to say,
44:01
Speaker 2: you're looking a bit Malcolm Turnable tonight in your leather
44:04
Speaker 2: jacket there.
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Speaker 19: Well, he's not the only person on the planet who
44:10
Speaker 19: has a leather jacket. I think George W. Bush from
44:13
Speaker 19: time to time wore leather jackets.
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Speaker 2: Well that's good actually, and I remember remember when Obama
44:18
Speaker 2: wore his cream suit and everyone went wild. It's good
44:21
Speaker 2: to see a bit of diversity in fashion in politics.
44:24
Speaker 2: Was saying to alex Rivchen earlier tonight. This story, these pages,
44:30
Speaker 2: walkie talkies now that have been blown up in Lebanon.
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Speaker 2: He's just one of the most extraordinary bits of military
44:36
Speaker 2: work I have ever seen. I think it's probably one
44:38
Speaker 2: of the most extraordinary things you've ever seen in your
44:41
Speaker 2: lifetime as well.
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Speaker 19: Yes, it's absolutely brilliant because it's very targeted. It's obviously,
44:50
Speaker 19: by definition targeting people who are operatives within Hesbalah, which
44:55
Speaker 19: is a terrorist organization run and financed by the Iranian regime.
45:00
Speaker 19: And so instead of putting Savilians at risk, it's targeted
45:04
Speaker 19: the people who are directly responsible for continual attacks against
45:11
Speaker 19: Israel and who are determined to eliminate the state of
45:15
Speaker 19: Israel from the map of the earth. So who can
45:18
Speaker 19: blame the Israelis? And secondly, what an incredibly clever operation
45:24
Speaker 19: this has been.
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Speaker 2: Well, the US says that they had no knowledge of it.
45:28
Speaker 2: I just can't wrap my head around how you manage
45:31
Speaker 2: to do something like that undetected and get away with it.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, there have been various articles written over
45:43
Speaker 19: the last few hours positing how this could have happened.
45:49
Speaker 19: I'm not sure of the technology involved, but I assume
45:52
Speaker 19: what's happened here is that Mossad has managed to intercept
45:56
Speaker 19: the shipments of these both pages and the walkie talkies
46:02
Speaker 19: and then insert explosives into them and then or el
46:06
Speaker 19: swap the whole of the shipment for their own versions
46:10
Speaker 19: of the walkie talkies and the pages, and then they've
46:14
Speaker 19: been delivered as was planned by Hesbelara.
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Speaker 4: Israelis have blown them up.
46:20
Speaker 19: But Israel, Israel is sending out a very strong message.
46:25
Speaker 19: If you want to try to destroy Israel, this is
46:29
Speaker 19: what will happen to you. So stop it and there
46:32
Speaker 19: will be no more attacks on these people at all
46:36
Speaker 19: if they stop attacking Israel. But they have been firing
46:40
Speaker 19: missiles and rockets day by day.
46:42
Speaker 1: Into northern Israel.
46:44
Speaker 19: Sixty three thousand people have had to be evacuated from
46:49
Speaker 19: northern Israel because of the constant attacks by Hezbilar into
46:53
Speaker 19: that part of the country. If they stop doing this,
46:57
Speaker 19: then there won't be these retaliatory measures.
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Speaker 5: But get them to stop it.
47:03
Speaker 19: They're fanatics, they're fanatics.
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Speaker 2: Well, you'd think it's unlikely, for even more unlikely now
47:08
Speaker 2: that they will stop. But how many more of these
47:12
Speaker 2: attacks do you think we will see? Are attacks of
47:14
Speaker 2: this style from Israel. If they've managed to do it
47:16
Speaker 2: with the pages and the walkie talkies, who knows what's next.
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Speaker 19: Well, I don't think I necessarily accept the premise of
47:24
Speaker 19: your question, which is that Hezbollah will just continue to attack.
47:30
Speaker 19: I mean they know that their lives are at risk
47:34
Speaker 19: if they attack the Israelis. They don't know where Israel
47:38
Speaker 19: will come from next. They don't know what technology they
47:42
Speaker 19: can use, or if they can use any technology. How
47:45
Speaker 19: are they going to communicate with each other except by
47:48
Speaker 19: carrier pigeon and by messages on foot. I mean it's
47:54
Speaker 19: going to be extraordinarily difficult for them to run these
47:57
Speaker 19: operations in future. Ultimately, what viewers have to remember is
48:03
Speaker 19: behind all of these attacks on Israel lies Iran. Iran
48:09
Speaker 19: is arming and instructing these people to attack Israel, and
48:13
Speaker 19: Iran wants to eliminate the state of Israel. And this
48:18
Speaker 19: is an existential struggle for the Jewish people and for
48:23
Speaker 19: the Israelis, and for us as Western as it's a
48:27
Speaker 19: civilizational challenge. So we should get right behind the Israelis,
48:32
Speaker 19: and the Iranians should be put on notice that they
48:37
Speaker 19: are running the risk of war with the West by
48:40
Speaker 19: continuing these attacks on Israel.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope they heed the warning that they've been sent.
48:46
Speaker 2: While we're on Israel, I mentioned this earlier as well,
48:49
Speaker 2: but we saw overnight the voter the u N this
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Speaker 2: motion put up by the Palestinian authority asking for Israel
48:55
Speaker 2: to pull out of Gaza entirely.
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Speaker 4: The US asked us not to.
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Speaker 2: Vote against it, which technically we did, but we abstain
49:03
Speaker 2: from the vote. I mean just absolutely. Weik from the
49:08
Speaker 2: federal government to not take a stance.
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Speaker 4: Well, do you know what's.
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Speaker 19: Right and what's wrong. Do you know what's moral and
49:16
Speaker 19: what's immoral. It is right to support Israel's right to
49:22
Speaker 19: exist and the Jewish people to have a homeland. It
49:26
Speaker 19: is right to support that. It is wrong to give
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Speaker 19: comfort to terrorists who killed twelve hundred young people in
49:35
Speaker 19: the south of Israel and took hundreds hostage and killed
49:39
Speaker 19: some of the hostages and still hold others.
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Speaker 3: That's wrong.
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Speaker 19: So when it comes to voting in the United Nations,
49:48
Speaker 19: for what it matters. When it comes to voting, Australia
49:51
Speaker 19: should be morally clear. Australia should be crystal clear and
49:57
Speaker 19: vote for what is moral and what is right. Instead,
50:01
Speaker 19: what the Australian government does for domestic political reasons is abstain.
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Speaker 19: And it's shameful on a moral issue to abstain. It's
50:09
Speaker 19: shameful one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Alexander, I'm enjoying your columns in
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Speaker 2: the Advertiser. Keep it up, former Foreign Minister, Sorry Alexander Downer.
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Speaker 2: There that's all from us tonight. Stay tune now for
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Speaker 2: Peter Kreedlin