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Tom Callahan on the Utah Mammoth, Push for the playoffs, How far can they go in their first playoff appearance (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Am, welcome to our number three. Welcome in, Tom Callahan,
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  Speaker 2: Utah Mammoth inside our host of Locked On Mammoth.
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  Speaker 3: Friend of the program, Tom, welcome back. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? You know what, I'm getting excited. I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back. But man, we're creeping.
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  Speaker 5: Right up on playoffs here and it's it's hard not
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  Speaker 5: to have your little puppy tail wagon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an exciting time for hockey fans in Utah,
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  Speaker 2: for Mammoth fans in Utah, and right now this team
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  Speaker 2: is blistering hot, three games in a row, scoring at
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  Speaker 2: least six goals, coming off with Clayton Keller hat trick.
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  Speaker 2: Is it's cliche to say, is this the best hockey
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  Speaker 2: we've seen this team play? But how close to the
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  Speaker 2: best version of the Utah Mammoth have we seen in
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  Speaker 2: the last three games?
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  Speaker 5: Well, certainly offensively they are clicking and it's great to see.
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  Speaker 4: It's very exciting.
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  Speaker 5: One of the little, you know factors inside of this
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  Speaker 5: has been the fact that I think the power play
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  Speaker 5: has been a lot better, and that was something that
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  Speaker 5: you know, we've talked about all year long about special
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  Speaker 5: teams needing to be better. They really needed to pick
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  Speaker 5: it up in that department. And boy, the power play
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  Speaker 5: when when that's clicking, and even here's the thing. It
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  Speaker 5: may not score you the deciding goal in a game,
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  Speaker 5: but when it gets you a goal, when it gets
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  Speaker 5: you maybe two goals, especially other teams take note because
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  Speaker 5: now they have to stay out of the box. Now
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  Speaker 5: they're thinking about it, and I think that that has
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  Speaker 5: been a big part of the resurgence here Offensively. Scoring
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  Speaker 5: on special teams is so huge and you just you
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  Speaker 5: can't understate what it means right now.
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  Speaker 2: Clayton Keller has been quiet at times over stretches this season.
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  Speaker 2: What does a hat trick do for him and for
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  Speaker 2: this team who obviously in some ways goes the way
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  Speaker 2: of their captain.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you look at the season he's had. It's
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  Speaker 5: been an emotional roller coaster for Clayton Keller. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that a lot of players dial their focus in
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  Speaker 5: more and more the closer they get to the postseason.
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  Speaker 5: Keep in mind this is a fairly new thing for
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  Speaker 5: this franchise. Yes, they have some guys, and they brought
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  Speaker 5: in that Stanley Cup winning DNA, right, They've made trades
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  Speaker 5: or free agent signings with the intent of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: talking about this is how we're going to win, this
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  Speaker 5: is what it takes to win a championship. We want
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  Speaker 5: to learn these lessons from these players. But the core
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  Speaker 5: leaders are a lot of drafted and developed or long
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  Speaker 5: time acquisitions who haven't had that taste of experience. And
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  Speaker 5: so Clayton Keller in particular as the captain, You're right,
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  Speaker 5: the franchise does feed off of him. The whole room
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  Speaker 5: does the fan base can. He needs to have it
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  Speaker 5: going at the right time, and I think his focus
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  Speaker 5: is starting to.
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  Speaker 4: Dial in right now and having that game I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, you know, three goals in an assist against the
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  Speaker 5: Vancouver team that quite frankly was right for the picking
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  Speaker 5: and I'm glad they let him up the way they did.
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  Speaker 5: I love to see his game rounding in the form
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  Speaker 5: and if this is the way he plays for them
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  Speaker 5: down the stretch and into the postseason, there's no reason
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  Speaker 5: not to be excited. As a Mammoth fan, no matter
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  Speaker 5: who your first round matchup is.
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  Speaker 2: The first time I asked you this, it was still
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  Speaker 2: pretty brand new, and now we're a couple more weeks
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  Speaker 2: into this experiment. But the acquisition of Guiger and what
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  Speaker 2: he has done for the blue line, what do you think?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's probably the biggest deal they've made in
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  Speaker 5: their Utah.
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  Speaker 4: Residency since they've come in the state.
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  Speaker 5: Look at the difference without Wiger in the lineup, without
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  Speaker 5: like Sergachev out there. It's unbelievable. You don't realize how
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  Speaker 5: subtle and how professional Mackenzie Wiger is and how much
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  Speaker 5: he's covered until all of a sudden, he's, you know,
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  Speaker 5: day to day right now.
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  Speaker 4: Misses the Vancouver game.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think the Vancouver game is a very good
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  Speaker 5: game for them defensively, but they survived it largely because
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  Speaker 5: it was the Knucks.
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  Speaker 4: But boy, oh boy, you see.
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  Speaker 5: Without Wiger now, the difference he makes with Mackenzie Wiger
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  Speaker 5: in the lonep is he covers a lot of those situations.
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  Speaker 5: He allows Michel Sergachev to be better because Sergachev can
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  Speaker 5: take more of those chances knowing that he's got a
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  Speaker 5: guy back there who really has a great head for
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  Speaker 5: the game, understands, reads, reacts well, McKenzie Wiger does all
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  Speaker 5: of those tiny little things that you need to do
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  Speaker 5: to win hockey games.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that this is.
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  Speaker 5: An incredibly underrated acquisition as far as the trade deadline goes.
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  Speaker 5: No one's talking about it, but we saw the other
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  Speaker 5: night what a huge impact he does have when he's
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  Speaker 5: not in the lineup. I think it was probably the
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  Speaker 5: best thing they could done for themselves as far as
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  Speaker 5: bolstering the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So this team is in a really nice spot right now.
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  Speaker 2: Part of the reason why your puppy tail is wagon,
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  Speaker 2: as you characterize it, is because this is a you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is the second year of Utah mammoth existence, well,
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  Speaker 2: first year of Utah mammoth, second year of pro hockey
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  Speaker 2: at this level in the state of Utah, and you're
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  Speaker 2: already in, you know, pretty firmly entrenched in that first
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  Speaker 2: wild card spot. How critical and crucial is it to
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  Speaker 2: stay exactly there because you need the best matchup you
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  Speaker 2: can get in that first round.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I'm again going to be someone who let's
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  Speaker 6: let's just go ahead and suppose let's suppose Colorado, does
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  Speaker 6: you know finish this thing off and clinch the President's
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  Speaker 6: Trophy and all that fun stuff.
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  Speaker 4: They're the best team in the NHL.
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  Speaker 5: That's your one eight matchup, and then your two seven
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  Speaker 5: could be any of the Ducks, the Golden Knights, the Oilers.
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  Speaker 5: You never like, it could be any of those three
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  Speaker 5: teams if you finish there. Do I like matching up
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  Speaker 5: against the Pacific better than maybe the Avalanche. Yes, except
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  Speaker 5: for the Oilers because they still haven't beaten the Oilers
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  Speaker 5: in a season plus in Utah. But I will say this,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not afraid of Colorado. I think this team matches
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  Speaker 5: up very well with Colorado. So if there's any fans
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  Speaker 5: out there, you know, cut your friends off, head them
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  Speaker 5: off at the pass before they get into the Wow.
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  Speaker 5: We can't play Colorado. We wouldn't have a chance. Oh
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  Speaker 5: you absolutely would. They play Colorado very well, They play
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  Speaker 5: them very close. It's one goal games. Anything can happen
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs. I'm not afraid of a Colorado series.
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  Speaker 5: I would expect Colorado to win it, but I would
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  Speaker 5: expect Utah to.
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  Speaker 4: Give them everything.
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  Speaker 5: However, matching up against the Ducks, which is a giant
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  Speaker 5: rivalry for this team, the Vegas Golden Knights, who are
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  Speaker 5: up and down even Edmonton. I mean, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, all bets are off. I actually think
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  Speaker 5: Utah being in the first one card spot is favorable
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  Speaker 5: to them if they fall the two.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not worried. I'm not losing sleep. But
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  Speaker 4: that said, yes, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think that, you know, if Anaheim comes out on top
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  Speaker 5: of Vegas, especially that matchup, bodes well for them.
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  Speaker 2: We saw at the tail end of last season it
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  Speaker 2: was the Blues I think, that were on this epic
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  Speaker 2: run and you know, ended up being part of the
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  Speaker 2: reason why Utah didn't make it into the playoffs. What
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  Speaker 2: eight regular season games? Six regular season games left, and
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  Speaker 2: you know there's points to be had or not. So
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  Speaker 2: who underneath this Utah Mammoth team are you paying closest
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  Speaker 2: attention to and maybe thinking that they could be the
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  Speaker 2: surprise team that in the final few stacks up a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of points.
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  Speaker 5: This is the fun part because Nashville kind of controls
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  Speaker 5: not only its own destiny but almost everybody around them
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  Speaker 5: because they played the Kings again yet and they just
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  Speaker 5: played the Kings.
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  Speaker 4: They have the Sharks in there as well.
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  Speaker 5: Nashville whether you're rooting for or against, the Predators can
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  Speaker 5: in many ways be the king maker.
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  Speaker 4: If teams beat.
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  Speaker 5: Them, they can push them right on out of the conversation.
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  Speaker 5: If Nashville beats those teams had to head, Nashville puts
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  Speaker 5: itself comfortably ahead in that wildcard to position. So really,
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  Speaker 5: that group of three Nashville, LA and San Jose, the
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  Speaker 5: Blues and the Jets are there. I just don't know
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  Speaker 5: if being at this point is of you know, us
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  Speaker 5: talking today three points out and still having to jump
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  Speaker 5: three teams each.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see Saint Lewis or Winnipeg pulling it off.
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  Speaker 5: So Nashville, La, San Jose, that that's your group.
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  Speaker 2: Tom callahaner guests here on the Sean O'Connell Show talking
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  Speaker 2: All Things Utah, Mammoth, All Things NHL Hockey. We talk
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that you know, you still haven't shaken
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  Speaker 2: the Edmonton monkey off your back, and big picture, it
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  Speaker 2: probably only matters when as you get to the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: but you have an opportunity to beat them tomorrow night
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  Speaker 2: in one of your final home games of the season.
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  Speaker 3: What does that matchup look like?
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  Speaker 5: Five the last six coming into Helta Center is big
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  Speaker 5: for Utah and it starts, you know.
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  Speaker 4: With this Edvonton game.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Connor Ingram has worked his way into
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  Speaker 5: the number one spot in Edmonton, which is a tremendous
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  Speaker 5: feel good story. I love that for him. Just a
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  Speaker 5: great guy who's had his struggles and man, I hope
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  Speaker 5: he continues to succeed. Maybe not, you know, against the Mammoth.
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  Speaker 5: But what does beating them do right now? If they
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  Speaker 5: beat them and it puts this little kernel of doubt
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  Speaker 5: in there, Edmonton suddenly says, Hey, Utah is not the
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  Speaker 5: pipsqueak we've been running over this whole time. But really,
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  Speaker 5: what I need to see against Utah is not so
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  Speaker 5: much the offenses.
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  Speaker 4: We've talked about.
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  Speaker 5: The offense has been going great, special teams, the power
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  Speaker 5: plays look good. What I need to see, especially if
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  Speaker 5: it were a first round playoff preview, is the containment
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  Speaker 5: of the Mammoth defense against this crazy Edmonton offense.
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  Speaker 4: About first, capability, The.
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  Speaker 5: Oilers are a quick strike team, They're a very talented team.
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  Speaker 5: They've got arguably the two best players in the world.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, any team that has Connor McDavid not
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  Speaker 5: missing a limb really has a chance to beat you
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  Speaker 5: in a series, and that's why they're so scary, whether
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  Speaker 5: they have Boltang or not, whether they're playing defense or not,
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  Speaker 5: because the Oilers are one of the very few teams
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  Speaker 5: in the NHL that can outscore you even when you're scoring.
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  Speaker 4: So that, to me is what the matchup is all about.
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  Speaker 5: Is about the defensive containment and how they're able to
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  Speaker 5: counteract what Edmonton does offensively.
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  Speaker 2: ESPN did a fun little piece about the players who
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  Speaker 2: could potentially win a Gold Medal and a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 2: in the same cycle in the same year. Do you
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  Speaker 2: have any favorites on who you think is most likely
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  Speaker 2: to pull that off?
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  Speaker 5: We wouldn't you love to to say the Utah Mamma connection,
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  Speaker 5: Right man, that's a fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Piece to think about. Boy, who would you like to
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  Speaker 4: see winning that? You know? I don't know. I suppose.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of looking and I'm looking at the article now.
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  Speaker 4: Out of everybody that's on here for I can.
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  Speaker 5: Say I love the Tampa Bay Lightning and the way
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  Speaker 5: they're playing, and so Jake Denzil has a chance to
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  Speaker 5: be that guy. I love Dallas as well, and I
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  Speaker 5: think the Stars are probably the most complete team besides
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  Speaker 5: the Avalanche, which is why I think it's a shame
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  Speaker 5: that the Wild play the Avalanche in the first round.
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  Speaker 5: So Jake Ottinger on the Dallas Stars has that chance.
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  Speaker 4: Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: Every year I want to pick against the Carolina Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 5: They always surprise me. I always think, boy, shouldn't their
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  Speaker 5: window not be as good? And maybe they're going to
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  Speaker 5: start a rookie in the playoffs this year and goal
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  Speaker 5: and Brandon Bussy, But you know they've got a chance.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's Jacob Slaven and me being from Buffalo,
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  Speaker 5: New York. You know, Tage Thompson on the Buffalo Sabers,
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  Speaker 5: You'd never know.
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  Speaker 4: But honestly, I think if I'm picking a team out
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  Speaker 4: of the East.
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  Speaker 5: It's probably Tampa Bay and either brock Nelson on the Avalanche,
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  Speaker 5: Jacott and Dream the Stars out of the West.
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  Speaker 2: Some reports out there saying that there was an idea
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  Speaker 2: floated around that maybe, if you know, the Utah Mammoth
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  Speaker 2: didn't end up returning to form and playing the way
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  Speaker 2: that they have down the stretch here, that maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be, you know, time to make a
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  Speaker 2: change on the bench, and Pete de Boor's name was
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  Speaker 2: floated out there coach Bear, I think is you know,
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  Speaker 2: in a good spot right now because of the way
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  Speaker 2: this team is playing. But how much credence should we
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  Speaker 2: be giving to those rumors.
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  Speaker 3: In your mind?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I have been shocked at the last couple of
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  Speaker 5: weeks the coaching changes both Vegas and the Islanders, two
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  Speaker 5: teams in the playoffs with in Vegas's case, and I
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  Speaker 5: think the Islander six games left, fired their coaches. That
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  Speaker 5: is shocking and stunning, like that does not happen. But
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  Speaker 5: maybe we're entering a new NHL now. So I said
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  Speaker 5: on our show, actually that came out today. I said,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that any NHL coach can get comfortable
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  Speaker 5: because short of winning a Stanley Cups. That's nuts to
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  Speaker 5: me to fire your coach on the eve of the
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  Speaker 5: playoffs while your team's in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still not one hundred percent sold that Andrey Tourney
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  Speaker 5: is the guy to get Utah to win a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Vegas let go of a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: winning coach.
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  Speaker 5: To bring someone else in. I've never been a big
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  Speaker 5: piet to Board fan. I covered the Vegas Golden Knights
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  Speaker 5: while he was in Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: Pizza.
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  Speaker 5: A great guy, He's very good with the media, but
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  Speaker 5: I just didn't like the way he was kind of
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  Speaker 5: running things in Vegas, especially with concern with the goaltenders.
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  Speaker 5: So to see him in the Islands, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 5: glad that choice is off the table. And if they
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  Speaker 5: do go looking for a coach in the offseason and
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  Speaker 5: right now the landscape is telling me a lot of
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  Speaker 5: teams feel emboldened by these changes, and even if they
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  Speaker 5: went around may go looking for a coach. I just
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  Speaker 5: don't think the Boar would have been the answer.
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  Speaker 4: I would not have been a big fan of that.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of towards John Tortorella taking over Vegas?
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  Speaker 2: Like you said right on the eve of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: I love Tortorella. I know people love him or hate him.
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  Speaker 4: I think he is refreshingly honest. Can he be a
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  Speaker 4: jerky Yes.
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  Speaker 5: He may not give you the answer you want, but
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  Speaker 5: I think he knows who he is, and he knows
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  Speaker 5: who he is as a coach, and he is going
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  Speaker 5: to get down and what he does works in the
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  Speaker 5: short term. Everywhere he's gone, he's been able to make
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  Speaker 5: it work in the short term. Honestly, if you wanted
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  Speaker 5: to jump start Vegas, he's the guy, which is a
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  Speaker 5: little frightening for them heading into the playoffs if they
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  Speaker 5: do find their momentum and their mojo, but I think
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  Speaker 5: it gives all of us in the West another storyline
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  Speaker 5: heading in the playoffs and short term success. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 5: could work out real well for them. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if Corderella is in Vegas longer than two or three years,
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  Speaker 5: especially at his age, but man, it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: fun in the meantime to just keep an eye on
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  Speaker 5: what he says every day of morning skate.
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  Speaker 2: You and I haven't spoken since the Florida Panthers were
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  Speaker 2: eliminated from playoff contention, and I remember some earlier conversations
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  Speaker 2: and I had him with a lot of hockey people
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  Speaker 2: just like, oh, yeah, they're probably going to get it
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  Speaker 2: figured out. Oh, they'll get it figured out. And ultimately
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  Speaker 2: they didn't get it figured out. Do you have a why?
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  Speaker 4: Injuries huge reason.
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  Speaker 5: Their captain and arguably their best player in Barkoff, never
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  Speaker 5: really played this year, was hurt the whole year.
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  Speaker 4: That didn't help.
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  Speaker 5: They just never found a way to keep pucks out
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  Speaker 5: of the net.
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  Speaker 4: Sergei. Bobrowski's thirty eight years.
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  Speaker 5: Old now, and you know, he's not getting any younger,
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  Speaker 5: and he does have an extra set of dials when
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  Speaker 5: it's to turning it up in the playoffs. But in
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  Speaker 5: the regular season he was supremely average. And they also
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  Speaker 5: battled some other injuries. You know, Kachuck was in and
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  Speaker 5: out of the lineup, and it's just they never were
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  Speaker 5: one hundred percent healthy.
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  Speaker 4: They never got consistent play this.
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  Speaker 5: Year, and I think they did get older, significantly older,
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  Speaker 5: and that I think this year was a very down
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  Speaker 5: year for Bob and this.
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  Speaker 4: Might be it for him. There's a lot of reasons why.
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  Speaker 5: But the health of that club was never ever good,
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  Speaker 5: never gave him a chance right from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, this has been a basketball market a lot longer
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  Speaker 2: than has been a hockey market. And in NBA basketball
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  Speaker 2: right now, there's this really kind of funny dynamic, interesting
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  Speaker 2: dynamic where there's not a lot of belief that it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a team from the East that does anything.
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  Speaker 2: When you get down to the you know, Larry O'Brien Trophy,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: how big a disparity is there right now between East
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and West when it comes to the hunt for the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I think people in both conferences are going to make
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: their cases for East is better, West is better. Now,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I can say, probably ten years ago you can make
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: a very real case the West was head and shoulders
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: above the East, and for a long time it was,
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: and then Tampa Bay swung that pendulum back the other way,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Tampa Bay and Florida. Now I feel like it's pretty
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: close to the middle. There are a lot of very
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: good teams in the East, and of course a lot
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: of the Eastern pundits are pointing at their point totals
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: and saying, well, look at how much better the East
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: is than the West. To me, what that's telling me
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: is there's just still a ton of parody on both sides.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Look it out close to wildcard races are look at
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: how close.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: The difference is in the West. I would say the
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: bottom feeters are a little further out.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: But I honestly believe that despite the point totals being
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: fairly elevated in the East, I think that there's parody
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: all across the league and it's pretty close to the middle.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: But no, you're right, and look, I'm a Lakers guy,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: so yes, I really do believe the West is far
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: superior to the East in the NBA.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think Lebron can carry it through in the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: playoffs if he has to without Austin Reeves and without Luca.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: I would have said maybe without Reeves, but not without Luca.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And look, I'm and I'm not a Lebron guy. I've
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: never been a Lebron guy. I was actually kind of
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: annoyed when the Lakers picked up Lebron James because I'm like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: you make up your mind, are you a coach, a
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: GM or a player.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Pick one? Stick with it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: So at a Lakers fan, I was not happy. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: you know, there's a title in there with Lebron's name
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: on it. I just I think Luka Doncic missing him
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: is huge for that team, unfortunately.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And I don't know. I guess I'm just gonna have
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: to stick to the Stanley Cup this fall because you know, hey.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: If they want to go on a run, that'd be
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: great and I'll be excited, but I'm not holding my.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Bro all right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: The last thing before I let you go, people, you
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: tell me Ama fans especially, they're probably sick of hearing
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: me talk about this kid, but a teenager in maclan
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Celebrini scoring one hundred points in that shark sweater and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the future being so incredibly bright for him. I think
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the team being a little bit ahead of schedule because
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he's on it, and him being one of only what
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: six teenagers to ever do it in the NHL score
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: one hundred points or more. Just help me, help me
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: characterize this accomplishment for the hockey newcomers out.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: There, I think we're, oh, see, we live in a
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: world where everybody's very quick to label somebody a generational talent, right, oh,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: this generational quarterback, generational.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Point guard, general. What we're seeing here is probably.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: In hindsight what will be viewed as the best player
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: of his generation. And his accomplishment is like, in to
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: one hundred points so quickly is phenomenal. And it's so
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: hard to do because it's not like when I was
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: growing up at the NHL the eighties and nineties, where
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: they were just handing out one hundred point seasons. Now,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: in today's game, it is harder to score, it is
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: harder to manufacture points.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: To be able to do that is just.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Phenomenal, And I think, yes, if you are a fan
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: of Western Conference hockey and you paid any even remote
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: attention to the Sharks and Celebrini. What he has done
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: this year is nothing short of phenomenal. It is a
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: superstar effort. And this kid, if he continues this pace,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: this is hall of fame credential pace, and you might
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: get a chance here early on. You know, if you're
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: a man, a fan, or a fan of any other
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: team and you're listening to this show, I mean pay
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: attention to the Sharks or at least Macklin Celebrini because
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: what he's doing I can hang a generational talent tag
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: on him, confidently.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Tom Callahan at Callahan on Air. If you're not already following,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that'd be a mistake. You should also check out Locked
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: on Mammoth, stay dialed in on everything that this Utah
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: team is doing as they approach a playoff picture where
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it looks like they're going to be at least in
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that first wild card spot.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Tom. I always appreciate your time and your insight.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, thanks for having me on.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: I look forward to talking playoff hockey.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: With you very soon.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Let's go, baby, the Mammoth are going to be in
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. That's Tom Callahan,