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Utah Student Meets Mystery Person in Park, Vanishes & Did Missing CT Mom Write ‘Gone Girl’ Style Novel? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Thursday, June twentieth, that
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Speaker 1: approximately four o'clock PM, who received a call from the
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Speaker 1: Lewech family reporting that they had not heard from their
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Speaker 1: twenty three year old daughter McKenzie for Kenzie since early
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Speaker 1: Monday morning, the seventeenth of June, when she texted her
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Speaker 1: mother at two or one am Mountain time. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us,
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Speaker 1: joining me right now. A syndicated talks to her host,
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Speaker 1: Dave mac the missing University of Utah student. What can
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Speaker 1: you tell me? Start at the beginning, McKenzie luck missing
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Speaker 1: McKenzie arrived at the airport in Salt Lake City about
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Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning. She notified her parents she
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Speaker 1: had arrived. She sent a text at two o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning she called a lift driver to take her
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Speaker 1: to a park, not to her home. That's the key here.
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Speaker 1: Lift driver arrives and takes her to the park where
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Speaker 1: at about three o'clock in the morning. The last word
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Speaker 1: we have and all of this is coming from this
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Speaker 1: lift driver, mind you, who the police have said is
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Speaker 1: not actually a suspect right now. All the information comes
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Speaker 1: from him. He drops her off at a park at
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Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. She meets somebody there that
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Speaker 1: we have no clue who it is. We don't have
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Speaker 1: any descriptions to make a model of the car or
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Speaker 1: the individual. And that's the last time McKinsey has seen Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me just tell you right now, I don't believe that, because,
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Speaker 1: first of all, let me throw to Wendy Patrick right now,
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Speaker 1: trial lawyer, author of red Flags on Amazon. Let me
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Speaker 1: understand this, Wendy. It doesn't make sense to me. This
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Speaker 1: is a young girl who has never gone missing, is
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Speaker 1: a college student, making great grace, you know, the apple
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Speaker 1: of her parents eye. She tells them she's going to
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Speaker 1: the airport, She keeps them up to the moment about
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Speaker 1: her comings and goings, and then at three am she
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Speaker 1: goes to a park to meet an unknown person. Those
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Speaker 1: two things don't fit together to me. Help me, Wendy. Yeah, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: you're right on the money. You know. I watched the
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Speaker 1: news conference in this case where they talk about no
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Speaker 1: evidence of foul play. What you just mentioned is circumstantial
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Speaker 1: evidence of foul play. The fact that a young lady
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Speaker 1: with absolutely no reason to go off the grid and
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Speaker 1: the fashion she did with mid terms to take a
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Speaker 1: plane ticket to catch a family to come home to
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Speaker 1: somehow makes the choice to take a lift to a
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Speaker 1: park in the middle of the night instead of to
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Speaker 1: her home and then remember that that phone was turned off.
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Speaker 1: So this is a case of intensive investigation that's continuing
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Speaker 1: around the clock. Every parent's nightmare, No doubt. I cannot
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Speaker 1: wait Nancy to figure out a little more information. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's got to be cameras and things that caught cars
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Speaker 1: coming in and out of that park at that time
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Speaker 1: of night. There can't possibly be that much traffic to
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Speaker 1: try to make sense of this. Because you and I
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Speaker 1: are on the same page here so far, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: add up. Take a listen to our friend Tim Doubt
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Speaker 1: at the Salt Lake CITYPD McKenzie was visiting family for
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Speaker 1: a funeral in California last week and returned to Salt
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Speaker 1: Lake City on a flight that arrived early last Monday
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Speaker 1: morning at approximately one thirty five am Mountain time. Mackenzie
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Speaker 1: then took a lift at two forty two am from
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Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City International Airport to Hatch Park, located
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Speaker 1: at number fifty West Center Street in North Salt Lake City.
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Speaker 1: She arrived at Hatch Park at two fifty nine am.
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Speaker 1: Detectives has spoken with the lift driver and learned that
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Speaker 1: McKenzie was met at Hatch Park by an individual in
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Speaker 1: a vehicle. The lift driver left McKenzie at the park
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Speaker 1: with that person and stated that McKenzie did not appear
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Speaker 1: to be in any type of distress. I'm not putting
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Speaker 1: blame on the lift driver, Okay, they say for right
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Speaker 1: now he has been cleared. So either he's telling the
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Speaker 1: truth or he's not. That is what this is all
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Speaker 1: going to hinge on. He says he drops the twenty
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Speaker 1: three year old Utah student off at a park. He's
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Speaker 1: picked her up at the airport. She had ordered the
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Speaker 1: car around one am, right when she touched down, has
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Speaker 1: to be taken to an address in North Salt Like.
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Speaker 1: He says, he dropped her off of the part where
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Speaker 1: she meets a man she quote seemed happy to see,
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Speaker 1: gets in his vehicle. Has not been seen since she
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Speaker 1: drove away with him. Why would he want to meet
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Speaker 1: her at a park? I don't get it. Since that time,
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Speaker 1: she's missed a wedding, a midterm work, and has not
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Speaker 1: been home to check on her cat John Cardilla way in, Well, look,
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Speaker 1: that fact pattern is really really unusual. But what law
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Speaker 1: enforcement has to do is wipe all the preconceived notions away,
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Speaker 1: and so the parents see her as honor student and
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Speaker 1: a diligent daughter and someone who checks in with law
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Speaker 1: enforcements looking at her the things the parents might not know.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're there, but they're going to look
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Speaker 1: at does she have a history of drug use that
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Speaker 1: the parents might not know about? Does she have a
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Speaker 1: secret group of friends that the parents don't know about?
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Speaker 1: A minute? Wait a minute, Wendy Patrick, Okay, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a shrink, that's true. But a twenty three year old
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Speaker 1: girl with a job, a college career, who was planning
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Speaker 1: a wedding, a midterm work, keeps a cat, keeps up
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Speaker 1: with her parents, texting in throughout a trip. That does
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Speaker 1: not sound like a meth head or a dopatic to me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I think what John was saying is that's why
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Speaker 1: you want to clear those possibilities at the beginning, to
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Speaker 1: make sure back and says, oh, well, did anybody look
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Speaker 1: at this? Law enforcement knows that doesn't fit the pattern,
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna that's the easy thing to do is
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Speaker 1: to basically discount those explanations that might fit a different
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Speaker 1: victim here. But once you get through that, Nancy, you're
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Speaker 1: laying out all the right evidence here, how do you
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Speaker 1: account for the fact that it looks like, at least
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Speaker 1: at this point, this young woman made the choice to
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Speaker 1: go to that park. So what explanation are we going
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Speaker 1: to come up for that that doesn't involve somebody that
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Speaker 1: she's meeting up with we don't know about, I gotta
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Speaker 1: tell you, thankfully. Nowadays, digital footprints are easier to follow
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Speaker 1: than real ones, and that seems to be the focus
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Speaker 1: of law enforcement now is who did she arrange to
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Speaker 1: meet there? And how can we figure out who that
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Speaker 1: person was. Sure we can find the car, that's great,
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Speaker 1: but my prediction is we're also going to be able
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Speaker 1: to find a digital trail of this meeting, the planning,
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Speaker 1: and then we'll have a suspect. Here's our friend, William
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Speaker 1: luj Nas at Fox Knees. Listen. If there's just one
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Speaker 1: part of this story, it doesn't add up. Where did
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Speaker 1: she go at one am to an industrial, unfamiliar part
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Speaker 1: of town even her friends say is a mystery because
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Speaker 1: she did not have a regular boyfriend. We could go.
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Speaker 1: Louis tells her parents. She arrives safely in Salt Lake,
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Speaker 1: where she's a student at the University of Utah. She
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Speaker 1: takes a lift, not home or her sorority, but an
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Speaker 1: area north of Salt Lake, and hasn't been seen since.
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Speaker 1: No text, no calls, no Facebook, Carna moved from her apartment,
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Speaker 1: luggage missing, missing work, a wedding, and mid term exams.
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Speaker 1: For her, not to reach out to me, stap chat, Instagram, anything.
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Speaker 1: It's very unlike her, very uncommon. She's usually in touch
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Speaker 1: with me almost every day. She texted her family that
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Speaker 1: she landed at the airport. She wouldn't have done that
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Speaker 1: if she wanted to purposefully disappear. Kenzie, if you can
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Speaker 1: hear this, we are all worried and looking out for you.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven. So police are not saying where
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Speaker 1: she went, but Lyft says her route contained no irregularities
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Speaker 1: and ended exactly where she stipulated. The driver continued providing
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Speaker 1: rides at night, and please say they have no information
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Speaker 1: that would lead them to believe that she has been
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Speaker 1: harmed or is in danger, but they are concerned for
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Speaker 1: her welfare. The bottom line here you have someone who
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Speaker 1: appears to be a serious student, irresponsible daughter doing something
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Speaker 1: a little out of character. What she was doing up there?
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Speaker 1: Who did she see? It's a missing piece. Police are
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Speaker 1: not saying or not cheery yet. I find it really
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Speaker 1: hard to blay John Cardillo, former NYPD that the cops
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Speaker 1: are saying the lift driver is cleared if he's not,
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Speaker 1: because I think that's kind of thing that is logged
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Speaker 1: into a bigger network. When they punch in your address
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Speaker 1: and you order a lift or an uber, you have
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Speaker 1: to put in the address you want to go to.
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Speaker 1: You're the one that puts that in hold on. From
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Speaker 1: what I understand, from what Dave Mack has told me,
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Speaker 1: we understand that cops are also looking. They know that
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Speaker 1: she's single according to her friends, but they're looking to
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Speaker 1: see whether she was using dating apps or had some
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Speaker 1: secret social media profile. How do you do that, John,
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Speaker 1: You have to investigate everything so you eliminate them. So
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Speaker 1: what they're gonna look at now is just what you said, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna look at the digital trail of that particular
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Speaker 1: lift vehicle. If that guy was only at that park
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Speaker 1: for a few seconds dropping her off, then picked up
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Speaker 1: another fare a mile away four or three four minutes later. Well,
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Speaker 1: then we know that his timeline works. You remember, as
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Speaker 1: a prosecutor, a timeline as everything in an investigation. So
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Speaker 1: simultaneously they're going to be looking at her cell phone records,
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Speaker 1: everything about her cell phone, every incoming and outgoing call. Well,
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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, let's take a look at that.
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Speaker 1: You're right, John Cardillo, take a listen to our friend
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Speaker 1: Tim Doubt at the Saut Lakes. Since being reported missing,
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Speaker 1: detectives attempted to locate her through her phone, which has
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Speaker 1: been turned off, and those efforts remain unsuccessful. Detectives have
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Speaker 1: interviewed her friends and acquaintances from school, and we have
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Speaker 1: checked locations she was known to frequent. Detectives learned that
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Speaker 1: McKenzie was scheduled to fly into lax on Sunday morning,
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Speaker 1: June twenty third, and worked with the Los Angeles Police
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Speaker 1: Department to coordinate confirmation if she was on the flight,
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Speaker 1: which she was not. Detectives have listed McKenzie in the
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Speaker 1: national database is Missing and are exploring all avenues of
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Speaker 1: Investigative techniques include writing and serving various warrants, talking to
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Speaker 1: friends and family, and checking social media. Since we took
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Speaker 1: the report on Thursday, detectives have canvassed the area around
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Speaker 1: Hatch Park multiple times to try and locate any video
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Speaker 1: surveillance from businesses or from residences that may have captured anything.
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Speaker 1: Detectives are also knocking on doors in the area of
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Speaker 1: the park to rule out that anyone there may have
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Speaker 1: had contact with mackenzie or seen anything. Dave, what can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about the search for McKenzie now? Right now,
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Speaker 1: the searches in corporate is actually spreading out around the park.
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Speaker 1: The police have all their information coming from the lift driver.
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Speaker 1: They've been able to get his routine or his schedule
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Speaker 1: for that night. They've got it down to the point
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Speaker 1: where they're in the park at about three zero one am.
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Speaker 1: So police are now searching for all types of video.
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Speaker 1: So they're looking for surveillance video around the park area.
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Speaker 1: They're looking for any type of business or residence that
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Speaker 1: has a camera pointed near that park so they can
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Speaker 1: try to verify this story they're getting from the lift
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Speaker 1: driver that a man in a car picked up McKenzie.
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Speaker 1: Tipline eight zero one seven nine nine four four two
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Speaker 1: zero Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A mother of five
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Speaker 1: goes missing from the Tony area of New Haven. I'm
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us, and this is what we know. She Jennifer Dulos,
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Speaker 1: drops her children off at school. She's never seen again,
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Speaker 1: her car found abandoned. Her estranged husband Fotus Dulos, and
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Speaker 1: his girlfriend, Michel Chreconis have both been eyeballed by police.
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Speaker 1: In her disappearance. Her family says she was quote afraid
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Speaker 1: for her life. That's what we're learning that she was
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Speaker 1: a quote nervous wreck after filing for a divorce from
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Speaker 1: husband Fotus Duelos, her husband of thirteen years. Now. According
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Speaker 1: to police, over thirty items of clothing and sponges bloodied
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Speaker 1: have been found on a four mile stretch in Connecticut
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Speaker 1: that DNA apparently matching up to Jennifer Dulos. But in
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Speaker 1: the last hours we learn, according to the husband's lawyers,
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Speaker 1: that the missing mom, Jennifer Dulos, writes a Gone Girls
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Speaker 1: style novel. And as you will recall, the Gone Girl
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Speaker 1: movie hit movie was all about a wife that staged
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Speaker 1: her own disappearance and return. Long story, short, straight out
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Speaker 1: to Radar Online dot COM's Alexis terres Chuck, investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me, Alexis about this missing mom
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulos writing a gone girl style novel. So her
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Speaker 1: estranged f husband's attorney is claiming this. He said without
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Speaker 1: some who good kill me said they were given a dark,
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Speaker 1: dark novel that Jennifer had allegedly written, and they said
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Speaker 1: that it was a gone girl's style book. What that
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Speaker 1: means is it's a wife who fakes her death and
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Speaker 1: frames her husband for the death by leaving blood evidence
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Speaker 1: in the house. And that's what they're saying. That they
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Speaker 1: have found this book that she They say that she
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Speaker 1: wrote this, this missing mother of five, five children at
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Speaker 1: home and she writes a book about taking her death
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, her husand's attorney has
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Speaker 1: this book. The husband's lawyer also claims that she Jennifer Dulos,
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Speaker 1: has had a history of disappearing. What do you know
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Speaker 1: about that? This is what this attorney has said, that
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Speaker 1: she's had a history of disappearing. But her family says
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Speaker 1: that this isn't true. She has five kids, she's a
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Speaker 1: devoted mother, she has been fighting in court for full
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Speaker 1: custody of these kids. Everyone who knows there says that
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Speaker 1: this isn't true. Yeah, Alexis. According to husband Fotus lawyer,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer wrote a five hundred page Gone Girl's style script
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Speaker 1: many years ago, and he is now claiming she had
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Speaker 1: a quote troubled pass quote struggled with drugs her whole life.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting because he's had five children with her, and
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Speaker 1: I don't recall him ever calling de facts or causing
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Speaker 1: any disturbance about the mom using drugs, or ever having
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Speaker 1: any problem leaving his children alone with her. Nope, none whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: This is, according to her family's is coming from out
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. That these are really dirty tactics to blame
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Speaker 1: a victim, and they've never heard of any of this,
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Speaker 1: and this novel that she wrote. She is a New
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Speaker 1: York University NYU graduate in literature and she loves to write.
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Speaker 1: Is what her mom had said, So this is just
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Speaker 1: an old story that she wrote. Now, according to Jennifer's
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Speaker 1: loved ones, they say she was afraid for her life
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Speaker 1: and was a nervous wreck. Their lawyers claim that this
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Speaker 1: suggestion that she had written a Gone Girl novel is
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Speaker 1: just a desperate attempt to slander Jennifer. Right now, cops
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Speaker 1: have to release footage from inside a heart for trash facility,
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Speaker 1: and in that facility you see a guy that loves
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Speaker 1: a lot like the husband. Photos do lose throwing away
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Speaker 1: what many believe is evidence. Alisis what can you tell
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Speaker 1: us for her ex husband was captured on video thirty
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Speaker 1: times depositing what the police have said and sources have
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Speaker 1: said it was evidence that included bloody clothing, sponges that
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Speaker 1: have been connected back to Jennifer. This is all what
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Speaker 1: sources are saying, and this is they have been searching
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Speaker 1: the trash in this town. They are meticulously searching. This
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Speaker 1: is a huge trash landfill. But they have said the
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Speaker 1: authorities that said, we know exactly what we're looking for,
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Speaker 1: we know when it came here, and we know where
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Speaker 1: it is, and we are finding everything. And they said
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Speaker 1: even the littlest bit of evidence they have, they're sending
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Speaker 1: it to the medical examiner. They have dogs out there
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Speaker 1: that are trained to search to find body fluid, blood,
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Speaker 1: anything human related and they are going to find everything
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Speaker 1: they can to help connect them to this case. To syndicate.
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Speaker 1: A talk show host Dave Mac. Dave, I want to
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Speaker 1: start at the beginning. Where did she go missing? When
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Speaker 1: did she go missing? She dropped their children off at
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Speaker 1: eight am. The next thing we know is that she
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Speaker 1: missed an eleven am appointment. At twelve noon, the cleaning
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Speaker 1: lady came by and there was nobody home. So the
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Speaker 1: police have tightened the timeline down to the last time. Woa, whoa, whoa,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac. Sorry, but I've got to isolate something. You
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Speaker 1: just said she dropped the children off at school eight am.
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Speaker 1: And let me just tell you, these people aren't slouches.
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Speaker 1: They live in a very upscale area, possibly one of
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Speaker 1: the most expensive areas outside of nine two one zero.
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Speaker 1: It's surround the New Canaan area of Connecticut. And I
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Speaker 1: learned living in New York that all the rich people
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Speaker 1: would leave after work and take a train to New Canaan.
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Speaker 1: I mean the really, really wealthy people. So I can't
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Speaker 1: identify where the woman was living. The husband was living
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Speaker 1: in a four point three million dollar mansion, but they
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Speaker 1: had split up. Long story short, this is where I'm
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Speaker 1: going with this, Dave Mac, eight Am to eleven am
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Speaker 1: with Me Dave Max, syndicated talk show host Josicot Morgan,
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Speaker 1: I need you on this one. You know, when I'm
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Speaker 1: making a cup of hot tea first thing in the morning,
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Speaker 1: at about five AM, I do not expect a kidnap
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Speaker 1: to go down. What I'm saying is, I've been prosecuting
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Speaker 1: for many, many years, and it's much more unlikely for
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Speaker 1: a violent crime to occur first thing in the morning.
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Speaker 1: Now this is just anecdotal for me, but it's rare
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Speaker 1: when you see a kidnap or a murderer or a
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Speaker 1: violent crime occur first thing in the morning. What is that?
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Speaker 1: I always say, I felt perfectly perfectly safe going out
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Speaker 1: and handle livering subpoenas first thing in the morning, because
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Speaker 1: all the dopers would still be asleep like vampires. So
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Speaker 1: what is it that the crimes do happen? But it's
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Speaker 1: very rare first thing in the morning. Yeah, you're right, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, even even swat teams and you know, drug
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Speaker 1: task forth, like you had stated, they will, they will
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Speaker 1: go and serve warrants at these violent offenders homes generally
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Speaker 1: at that period of time, because you know, these people
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Speaker 1: are not going to be out of the bed by
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Speaker 1: that time. Oh oh, hub l No, because they've been
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Speaker 1: up all night long, breaking the law, selling dough, driving
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Speaker 1: around town, trying to steal things an arm rob. Mmmmm,
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Speaker 1: you can set up a whole battering ram outside inside
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Speaker 1: a doper's door at six am. They won't know anything's
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Speaker 1: going on. They're dead to the world till about three pm.
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Speaker 1: So can I just get a yes no on that,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott? Yes, So, Dave Matt, you're telling me she
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Speaker 1: goes missing between eight and eleven. She even wanted to
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Speaker 1: to disappear and get away from her life mightier early
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Speaker 1: in the morning. And we don't have any signs of
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Speaker 1: her clothes being packed, or a bus ticket, a plane ticket,
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Speaker 1: nothing like that, do we, Dave. When the police actually
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Speaker 1: went to her rented home in New Canean, they found
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Speaker 1: traces of blood and obvious signs that had been cleaned
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Speaker 1: up so that the maid could not realize what had happened.
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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming they used luminar or something along those
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Speaker 1: lines to determine that it was enough blood. Who is
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Speaker 1: they who used luminar? I'm sorry the police. The police
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Speaker 1: all converged on her home to try to find her,
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Speaker 1: and again we've got an eight am dropping off at
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Speaker 1: school by eleven am, she misses an appointment in by
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Speaker 1: twelve noon, the maid says there's nobody here. When the
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Speaker 1: police show up to investigate, they find traces of blood
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Speaker 1: at such a level that they believe it had been
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Speaker 1: cleaned up in an effort to conceal it from the
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Speaker 1: maid when she arrived. It Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, I Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories in
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Speaker 1: the last hours A bombshell in the search of Connecticut
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Speaker 1: mom Jennifer Dulos, a mom of five. We're now learning
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Speaker 1: from sources connected to her husband she Jennifer wrote a
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Speaker 1: quote gone Girl style novel Gone Girl, as you know,
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Speaker 1: a hit movie about a woman who orchestrated her own disappearance,
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Speaker 1: and it made to look as if her husband had
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Speaker 1: murdered her. Wow. Okay. He the defense lawyer is also
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Speaker 1: suggesting Jennifer has disappeared before and lived for years under
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Speaker 1: a false name. Okay, I find that really hard to
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Speaker 1: believe with five children that she's living separate from them
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Speaker 1: under a false name too. Alexis tres Chuck, writer online
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Speaker 1: dot com. Just give me a capsualization for those just
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Speaker 1: joining us about what is the movie Gone Girl about
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Speaker 1: who's starting it Done? Girls starred Ben Affleck and Rosamund Pike,
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Speaker 1: and she was his wife who faked her death. We
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Speaker 1: didn't know that. In the beginning of the movie. He
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Speaker 1: just came home. She was missing blood everywhere. Police found
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Speaker 1: lots of hidden evidence that would only point to him
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Speaker 1: as the murderer. It ends up that she faked her death.
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Speaker 1: She had run away all things happened to her. She
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Speaker 1: ended up coming back before he got the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: As you all know, Jennifer file for divorce in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: has been locked in an acrimonious legal battle for custody
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Speaker 1: of their twin boys. Another set of twins, boy girl
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Speaker 1: and a daughter. All the children very young, between eight
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Speaker 1: and thirteen years old. Jennifer hand rittey court documents, I
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Speaker 1: am afraid for my family's safety. Wow, to get an
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Speaker 1: idea what she looks like to me, she looks a
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Speaker 1: little bit like Jennifer Garner Um trying to figure this
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Speaker 1: all out, Alexis, what more can you tell us? For
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Speaker 1: the last few years, Jennifer has been fighting for us
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Speaker 1: for custody of her five children. In multiple court documents,
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Speaker 1: she has claimed that she's afraid for her life. She's
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Speaker 1: afraid of him. He is somebody that she really feels
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Speaker 1: I could really do harm to her and the children.
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Speaker 1: And she has been stagging a judge to give her
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Speaker 1: custody of the children. Listen on assocation of your emergency. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm worried about my wife and kids because they left
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Speaker 1: to go to York and I haven't been able to
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Speaker 1: get in touch for okay where they were. Run to me, Eric,
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Speaker 1: what's the license late on the car? What's the license
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Speaker 1: late on the car? I need to okay, who's car
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Speaker 1: registered too? It's registered to my wife's name, Jennifer Dulosa
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Speaker 1: name for me Dulos d u l o els Jennifer
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Speaker 1: g E M N I F R. Yeah, Harrod dat birth.
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Speaker 1: It's September twenty seven, nineteen sixty eight. They were driving
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Speaker 1: with the whole baby seeing continue hold calls world, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what kind of hold on? Hold on? What kind of
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Speaker 1: car were they driving? Who was the Rangel the rain
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Speaker 1: Drower yead On Black twenty sixteen, Black land Rower rain Drower.
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Speaker 1: You just heard part of a nine one one call
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Speaker 1: from two thousand and seventeen where the husband is calling
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Speaker 1: police Fotus duelos the husband. Okay, why is there a
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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen nine one one call? What is that? Dave?
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Speaker 1: Matt Nancy the Dulo's marriage was very contentious, and Jennifer
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Speaker 1: actually filed for divorce in two thousd seventeen, and that's
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Speaker 1: when that call was made. She actually left with the
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Speaker 1: kids to New York. But she went to get away
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Speaker 1: from him, to hide from him, because she feared that
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Speaker 1: when she served the papers, according to what she wrote,
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Speaker 1: that he would be violent towards her. So she actually
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Speaker 1: knew this was going to happen. It was all filed
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Speaker 1: with the with the court, and when he called nine
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Speaker 1: one one, he hadn't been served the divorce papers yet.
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Speaker 1: He didn't know where his wife had gone. He got
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Speaker 1: the divorce paper after that nine one one call, Let's
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Speaker 1: take a listen to more of it. Nine one one
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Speaker 1: were they supposed to be there? They were supposed to
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Speaker 1: be the parent? Okay, call is not answering, they're not
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Speaker 1: answering the okay what's herself? One number zero four? Okay? Okay,
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Speaker 1: you keep breaking up, sir, I needs you to hold
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Speaker 1: the phone to your face because they keep hearing you
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Speaker 1: really far away, small Asian fool, so far long for years,
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Speaker 1: that's okay, who was the other person? Lass with your
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Speaker 1: wife Laurence last name. And he goes on to list
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Speaker 1: all five children missing, five children all gone with her.
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Speaker 1: This is after she files for a divorce. But that
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Speaker 1: was way back in two thousand and seventeen two, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Patricia Saunders, Psychologists joining us out of New York. What
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Speaker 1: about it? That telephone call that UM two US made
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Speaker 1: saying that his family was missing was the night before
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Speaker 1: he was actually served the divorce papers. Um. He sounds
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Speaker 1: surprisingly calm on the nine one one call. Um. One
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Speaker 1: of the statements that Jennifer had made was she listened
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Speaker 1: to years of sicken name revenge fantasies from her husband
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Speaker 1: planning a harm, physical harm to people who he felt
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Speaker 1: had wronged him. So she had stated that she was
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Speaker 1: afraid of her husband and that he would find some
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Speaker 1: way to get revenge for her divorcing him. You know,
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Speaker 1: doctor Patucia Saunders, you know my husband David very very well,
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Speaker 1: and all the time I've known him, which goes all
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Speaker 1: the way back to college, I've never once heard him
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Speaker 1: talk about revenge ever. I mean, you know, he's in business,
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Speaker 1: and business deals go up and business deals go down,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. I've never
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Speaker 1: once heard him say I'm going to get that guy.
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Speaker 1: Her family says she was quote afraid for her life.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're learning that she was a quote nervous
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Speaker 1: wreck after filing for a divorce from husband Fotus Duelos,
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Speaker 1: her husband of thirteen years. Quote, she knew how enraged
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Speaker 1: he was that she took this step, that is filing
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Speaker 1: for divorce. Now there's been quite an upheaval amongst the
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Speaker 1: family because Jennifer is missing, her vehicle found to Joseph's.
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Speaker 1: Goot Morgan, Professor forensic Jacksonville State University, let me ask
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Speaker 1: you a question. It seems to me that if she
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Speaker 1: dropped her children off at school at eight am and
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Speaker 1: then you find blood that seemingly is cleaned up in
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Speaker 1: the home that she came back, that says to me
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Speaker 1: she came back from taking them to school, and I'm
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Speaker 1: wondering if she's stopped anywhere along the way McDonald's for
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Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, the grocery store, whatever's opened at
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Speaker 1: eight am, came into the home and that's when the
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Speaker 1: attack occurred because her car by eleven am has been
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Speaker 1: found abandoned. Yeah, I think so too, Nancy, And I
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Speaker 1: think that whoever's involved in this, they have to know
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Speaker 1: her timing. They have to know that she would have
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Speaker 1: taken those kids to school, and then they would have
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Speaker 1: had to have had access to this area in which
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Speaker 1: in which this blood is found. And this is going
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Speaker 1: to be essential. I don't know what you're saying about access.
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Speaker 1: They could break in or get in with a credit
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Speaker 1: card at the door and fallen us. She left the
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Speaker 1: door unlot, But as far as timing, I believe that's
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Speaker 1: when the incident occurred. I mean it had to if
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Speaker 1: that blood wiped up is related to her disappearance. In
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Speaker 1: the last hours, we learned that the husband has given
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Speaker 1: DNA samples straight out to David Mack. There's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of breaks in the case way in Jennifer's husband,
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Speaker 1: Fetus Dulas and his girlfriend Michelle Traconis, who's They were
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Speaker 1: both taken into custody and charged with hindering prosecution and
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Speaker 1: tampering with evidence in relation to the disappearance of missus Dula. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's not good because if they are in any way
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Speaker 1: trying to cover up or tamper with evidence or keep
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Speaker 1: police from finding evidence. Why would they want to do
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Speaker 1: that unless they've got something to cover up. Now, a
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Speaker 1: defense attorney will argue tampering with evidence or obstructing police
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Speaker 1: does not a murder make But if they're what other
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Speaker 1: reason would they cover up evidence or tamper with evidence
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Speaker 1: or obstruct police in their investigation? Dave Mack, you know
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Speaker 1: what we've gotten now is we've mentioned many times about
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Speaker 1: the blood being cleaned up at the New Canaan rental
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Speaker 1: home that Missus Dulos was living in. Well, they've gotten
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Speaker 1: the DNA broken down from that, and prior to his arrest,
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Speaker 1: mister Dulos actually had given a DNA sample and hair
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Speaker 1: follical samples that they're running against some of the other
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Speaker 1: evidence that they've found. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Welcome back,
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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories a blockbuster in
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Speaker 1: the search for a missing mom, Jennifer Dulos. Her family
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Speaker 1: says she was quote afraid for her life. That's what
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Speaker 1: we're learning that she was a quote nervous wreck after
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Speaker 1: filing for a divorce from husband Fotus Dulos, her husband
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Speaker 1: of thirteen years quote, she knew how enraged he was
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Speaker 1: that she took this step, that is filing for divorce.
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Speaker 1: Now there's been quite an upheaval amongst the family because
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Speaker 1: Jennifer is missing. Her vehicle found not long after she
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Speaker 1: had dropped her children off at school. Jennifer has gone missing.
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Speaker 1: Surveillance footage catches the couple, husband and girlfriend making thirty
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Speaker 1: stops at trash receptacles in Hartford the night Jennifer goes missing.
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Speaker 1: We believe disposing of bags filled with items including Jennifer's
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Speaker 1: bloodstained garments and bloody sponges. Fotus Dulo's DNA also found
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Speaker 1: mixed with Jennifer's blood on the kitchen sink faucet in
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Speaker 1: her home. Now, hold on just a moment. His DNA
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Speaker 1: found mixed with her blood on a kitchen sink fawcet
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Speaker 1: in her home. See here's my problem with that, Alexis.
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Speaker 1: Many defense learners will argue, it's not uncommon to find
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Speaker 1: and occupants blood in the home, especially in the kitchen
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Speaker 1: if you cut your finger, all right, But they have
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Speaker 1: been locked in a bitter custody dispute. Why is his
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Speaker 1: DNA there? And coincidentally, exactly where her blood is. See,
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Speaker 1: that's a problem for me. That's not where he lives.
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Speaker 1: That's not a home he occupies. His DNA should not
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Speaker 1: be on a kitchen faucet where her blood is. Alexis
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Speaker 1: and he hasn't lived in this house in two years.
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Speaker 1: They don't live together, he's they're not friendly. So there's
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Speaker 1: no reason for his DNA to be in the house
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Speaker 1: any longer. Obviously it could be it lasted a long time,
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Speaker 1: but to be right there on the kitchen faucet, you
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Speaker 1: washed that kitchen faucet twenty times a day every time
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Speaker 1: you use it, and so there's no reason for his
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Speaker 1: DNA to be there. And he and his girlfriend getting
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Speaker 1: caught on video thirty different times disposing of stuff nobody
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Speaker 1: normal that it has nothing to hide, is doing that.
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Speaker 1: You're not throwing your trash out in thirty different places.
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Speaker 1: That is very suspicious. Again, the lawyer for the husband
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Speaker 1: claims that Jennifer Dulos penned a five hundred page Gone
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Speaker 1: Girl esque manuscript, which he admits he has never read.
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Speaker 1: They are now claiming that she has quote quite an
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Speaker 1: imagination and motives to hurt mister Dulos. You know, I
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Speaker 1: find it really hard to believe that this mom would
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Speaker 1: be away from her five children, that she has been
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Speaker 1: battling so at rim momoniously for so long. This five
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Speaker 1: hundred page manuscript, according to her friends, it quote has
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Speaker 1: nothing in common with Gone Girl. It was a novel,
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Speaker 1: like most of her writing, has at the heart of
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Speaker 1: it about a loving relationship. That's what they say the
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Speaker 1: novel was about. Back to Alexis Treschuk, investigative reporter with
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Speaker 1: rater online dot com, explain what's happening now. So, Jennifer's
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Speaker 1: ex husband and his girlfriend were actually arrested. They were
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Speaker 1: taken into custody by the police in connection with tampering
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Speaker 1: evidence and so misleading an investigation. That is the only
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Speaker 1: charges been leveled against them so far. According to the
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Speaker 1: husband's lawyer, that missing Connecticut mom of five Jennifer Dulos
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Speaker 1: had written a Gone Girl script. Why is that significant
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Speaker 1: a Gone Girl novel? Because Gone Girl is about a woman,
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Speaker 1: that married woman that stages her own apparent murder and disappearance,
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Speaker 1: pointing the finger in her own husband, and then she
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Speaker 1: miraculously shows up at the end, but you don't know
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Speaker 1: till the very end. He's about to be arrested for murder.
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Speaker 1: We learned that, according to sources, the husband, Photus Dulos,
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Speaker 1: was very hard on the children, especially when it came
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Speaker 1: to water skiing, forcing them to compete. Several of the
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Speaker 1: children were nationally ranked ski competitors. And of course, cops
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Speaker 1: have searched a lake where Jennifer Dulo's children were allegedly
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Speaker 1: forced to water ski. To Alexis Treschuk, Alexis, what can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about state police searching a lake in
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Speaker 1: Connecticut where a strange husband of Jennifer Dulo's allegedly forced
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Speaker 1: their children to practice water skiing, including the use of
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Speaker 1: sonar equipment to scan the lake off Old Farms Road
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Speaker 1: in Avon. And that's a very wealthy suburb of heart.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about forcing the children into
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Speaker 1: competitive water skiing. In her divorce documents, Jennifer claimed that
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Speaker 1: her children no longer wanted to waterski. They did not
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Speaker 1: want to be competitive water skiers, but they were too
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Speaker 1: afraid of their father to tell him that they didn't
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Speaker 1: want to do it. She says that he forced them
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Speaker 1: to do it, and in fact, one time, when one
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Speaker 1: of her sons said he didn't want to ski anymore,
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Speaker 1: that dad took the water ski and threw it against
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Speaker 1: the rocks and broke it. She said. Even the children
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Speaker 1: were afraid. They hated going there. So police descended upon
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Speaker 1: this lake searched it. They used top of the line
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Speaker 1: equipment to see if there was any way that's possibly
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Speaker 1: her body could be in this lake. They were looking
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Speaker 1: for evidence there because it was something that was so
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Speaker 1: connected to the family, so they searched there. Alexis, Members
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Speaker 1: of the Connecticut State Police and major Crime units have
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Speaker 1: been painstakingly digging through mounds of trash inside a trash facility.
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Speaker 1: They systematically sorted through over six hundred tons of trash
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Speaker 1: and the search for Jennifer deals. But can you tell
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Speaker 1: me about that, Alexis tres Check. The state police have
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Speaker 1: said they booked on the videos where they saw Jennifer's
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Speaker 1: ex husband and girlfriend dumping the trash everywhere. They know
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Speaker 1: exactly where this trash went, so they have tracked it down.
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Speaker 1: They're at the big dumpster facility and they are searching
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Speaker 1: through it. They are very meticulous about it. This isn't
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Speaker 1: just having to search through pounds and pounds of trashes
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Speaker 1: that they don't know. They know this came from the
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Speaker 1: area where these video showed them dropping trash in these receptacles.
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Speaker 1: So they are using dogs that have been trained to
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Speaker 1: search for human remains, for blood, for any sort of
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Speaker 1: anything that connects them to a crime scene human remains.
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Speaker 1: So they are using them, and they are having actual
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Speaker 1: people they're searching there, like twelve officers fifteen hours that
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Speaker 1: day are in there. These conditions are horrific. This is
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Speaker 1: just trash piled high to the ceiling. But they are
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Speaker 1: looking for ever, thinking everything they find, even if they
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Speaker 1: think it's the smallest thing. They're sending them to the
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Speaker 1: lab to make sure that they have covered every base
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Speaker 1: because they're looking for any evidence of where Jennifer could be.
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Speaker 1: If you have information about the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos
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Speaker 1: right now her children are being kept under armed guard
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Speaker 1: with their grandparents, please call in the Canaan Police style
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