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Andy Larsen on the NBA fining the Utah Jazz for tanking, Leaving the Jazz beat to become the Salt Lake Tribune's full time data columnist... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: It makes you feel a little sad. It's a goodbye song.
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  Speaker 2: And we're being melodramatic about the fact that our next guest,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Larson, is uh he's switching roles. Instead of being
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  Speaker 2: trip Jazz, instead of being the Utah Jazz insider, He's
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  Speaker 2: going to be continuing and focusing his work on the data,
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  Speaker 2: the data column.
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  Speaker 3: We'll let him explain.
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  Speaker 2: More of it, but uh, yeah, saying goodbye to the
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  Speaker 2: sports version of Andy B.
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  Speaker 3: Larson. Andy, welcome to the show. How are you good man?
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  Speaker 4: I like my millennial era is a little younger than
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  Speaker 4: Vitamin C. So I was just like, oh yeah, oh
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  Speaker 4: see is bringing in the show with some fakeball cannon
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  Speaker 4: all right like this And I don't know if that
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what that means about me, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was Uh So I graduated in two and
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  Speaker 2: that song I think released in the United States in
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  Speaker 2: two thousand, so that was like everyone's graduation song. It
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  Speaker 2: was that and it was Time of Your Lives by
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  Speaker 2: Green Day, where they both came out around that time,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just like, man, those those those are
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  Speaker 2: the teer jerker songs of my generation.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I remember like Green Day, like that was
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  Speaker 4: that hit for us in middle school, like because I
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  Speaker 4: graduated in eight, ok so yeah like that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that was like kind of right in that timeline. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, the kids were not listening to vitamins.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's fine. It's totally fine, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So before you move on to your life in the
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  Speaker 2: data world, full time the Utah Jazz, It's fun to
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  Speaker 2: see you, you know, picking fights on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: I like that going out with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: And we had Bobby Marks on the show yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: I tried to push back on his comments about the
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  Speaker 2: integrity of the NBA being threatened by the Utah Jazz,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously the NBA piles on with a five hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine for conduct detrimental to the league. I
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  Speaker 2: was ranting about this earlier. I am never reason the
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  Speaker 2: bowl with my takes and my responses are you give
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  Speaker 2: me the reasonable take on how we should feel about
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  Speaker 2: what the NBA is doing right now with the Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're they're trying to send a message,
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  Speaker 4: right like, and when you do something just to send
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  Speaker 4: a message, you know, the likelihood that you are correctly
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  Speaker 4: applying justice is pretty low, and I think that's what
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing. Like, I think the Jazz have become the
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  Speaker 4: face of this thinking issue for a couple of reasons. One, like,
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  Speaker 4: they just have been doing it for a long time, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz traded Mike Conley in Lowry's first season with
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz, right that was four years ago now, and
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  Speaker 4: they tanked out the rest of that year, they tanked
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  Speaker 4: out the rest of the next year. Obviously, there was
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  Speaker 4: some significant thinking last year, and you know, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 4: in year four of this, and then you know, I
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  Speaker 4: do think like the strategy of sitting, of playing guys
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  Speaker 4: for three quarters and sitting them in the fourth is
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  Speaker 4: they you know, it's certainly the Jazz aren't the only
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  Speaker 4: ones to do it, but you know, it is a
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  Speaker 4: very obvious way to tank in a way that sometimes
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  Speaker 4: just sitting a guy and not seeing him at all
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  Speaker 4: is a little bit more subtle. Now that being said, like,
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  Speaker 4: I think you're right, You've made the argument on this show,
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  Speaker 4: and I agree with you that, like, yeah, playing a
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  Speaker 4: guy for three quarters is obviously better than not playing
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  Speaker 4: him at all, you know, but it is just different,
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  Speaker 4: and so it attracts the eye in a different way.
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  Speaker 4: And so yeah, the Jazz became the face of this issue,
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  Speaker 4: but it does not make sense, you know, given that
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  Speaker 4: we know nine other NBA teams are tanking and doing
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  Speaker 4: things that are are pretty egregious. And you know Will's
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  Speaker 4: press conference comment last night that hey, Larry marketing marketing
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  Speaker 4: in was on a minute restriction. I'm gonna listen to
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  Speaker 4: my medical staff and playing him is a little bit disingenuous.
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  Speaker 4: But also, like so is the idea that Anthony Davis
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  Speaker 4: or Trey Young can't play basketball right now, right Like
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  Speaker 4: the medical staffs have always made up in so yeah, look,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think the league is trying to solve
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  Speaker 4: a problem that they can't solve with fining, and they
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  Speaker 4: got to figure out what it is about their incentive
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  Speaker 4: structure that causes teams to want to do this and
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  Speaker 4: solve that right like, and you know, five hundred thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars fines here and there just aren't going to cut in.
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  Speaker 2: I know I've asked you this question before, but have
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  Speaker 2: you seen a proposal on how to combat tanking that
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  Speaker 2: actually makes sense for the NBA?
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  Speaker 4: There's you know, there are a couple out there, and
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  Speaker 4: I think they have kind of different strengths and weaknesses.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of like one that I heard recently that
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  Speaker 4: breaks the season up into kind of different sections. So
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  Speaker 4: you could say the way that would work is before
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  Speaker 4: the All Star break, you play, let's call it fifty
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  Speaker 4: eight games, two against every opponent, and then you know,
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  Speaker 4: you rank the teams. That way, you have a kind
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  Speaker 4: of a regular season, and the top ten teams that
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  Speaker 4: are playing for playoff spots. For the remaining twenty five games,
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  Speaker 4: the team, the middle team ten teams are playing in
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  Speaker 4: the play in tournament and to try to get into
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  Speaker 4: the play in spots, and then the bottom ten teams
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  Speaker 4: as ranked by this first fifty eight game regular season
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  Speaker 4: are playing for a draft pick or you know, the
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  Speaker 4: the winner of the last twenty five games late of
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  Speaker 4: games of schedule. I guess get a d to Bonser
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  Speaker 4: Darren Peterson or Camboose or whatever. I think that makes
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of sense because then you do have
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  Speaker 4: you know, teams basically trying to win for the entire year.
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  Speaker 4: You know, But that's not perfect either, and it's also
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  Speaker 4: really complicated and like no league has ever done anything
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  Speaker 4: like that and be confusing for fans, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: but and you know, if you eliminate the draft entirely,
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  Speaker 4: teams get stuck at the bottom and you get you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of where the English Premier League or whatever is
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  Speaker 4: right now, where you just get you know, they're top six,
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  Speaker 4: and then it's hard to break into that, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think if you just say, hey, you know, Adam
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  Speaker 4: Silver suggested a tournament at the end of the year
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  Speaker 4: for teams to see who gets the top pick. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I could see teams kind of tinking out of the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs in order to try to make their way into
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  Speaker 4: that tournament. That's no good. I mean, I have a
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  Speaker 4: way we could fix that. Really solid answer here.
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  Speaker 3: I have a way we could fix that.
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  Speaker 2: This is my proposal for how you make that tournament
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  Speaker 2: more of like a you keep competitive integrity in that tournament, right,
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  Speaker 2: like if you played for the right to have the
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  Speaker 2: top pick. But I agree some teams would tank their
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  Speaker 2: way into that tournament to try to get the top pick. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So you make a rule in that tournament that for
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  Speaker 2: the Pick tournament, that your players are available for whatever
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  Speaker 2: percentage of the regular season they played in that tournament.
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  Speaker 2: So if you, okay, if you had a guy missed
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the regular season, he can only play
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the minutes in that tournament.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. I guess then, like, if a
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  Speaker 4: guy has a legitimate knee injury or whatever, then you're
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  Speaker 4: kind of out of luck for the second But that's fine,
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  Speaker 4: I guess. Okay, So let's say, yeah, Walker Kestler is
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  Speaker 4: out with the shoulder injury and doesn't play two months
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  Speaker 4: in the regular season, then he doesn't get to play
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  Speaker 4: half of the Picks tournament. I guess, yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 4: that's not that big of a deal. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then you're you're you're double punished for legitimate injuries,
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  Speaker 2: which kind of stinks, but you're also double punished for
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  Speaker 2: fake injuries, which bounces it out.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I would get on board with
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  Speaker 3: it because it's my own idea. So you're welcome, NBA.
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  Speaker 4: It's not crazy, and you know, just the the status
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  Speaker 4: quo can't be this way right like, and I do
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  Speaker 4: think you know it's there is an element of now
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma City and San Antonio are the best position teams
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  Speaker 4: in the league, and they are, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: trying to pull the ladder up from under them the
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  Speaker 4: system that they use to get where they are. But
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  Speaker 4: it's it just can't you know what you have right now?
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  Speaker 4: When you have nine or ten teams, Tanking means that
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  Speaker 4: over half of your games are worthless and pointless, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: are not good product for the league. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: if you're selling your product to MBA, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: broadcasters for billions of dollars each year. They want something
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  Speaker 4: that people are interested in turning into. And when half
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  Speaker 4: of your games are worthless, you know they're they're not going.
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  Speaker 2: To Andy Larson is our guest here on the Sean
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell Show talking about the NBA's issues that the Jazz
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  Speaker 2: have become the face of with the soul tanking situation.
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  Speaker 2: What happens if Ryan Smith says, I'm not paying five
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  Speaker 2: hundred grand for doing something that everyone else is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any any way you can push back without
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  Speaker 2: having it be bad for the franchise.
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  Speaker 4: It would be in like the NBA's you know, governor
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  Speaker 4: contract that I don't think is public. I do know that,
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  Speaker 4: like NBA teams cannot sue the NBA. You know, that's
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  Speaker 4: that's part of the deal of having an NBA franchise,
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  Speaker 4: and in the same way that like McDonald's franchise owners
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  Speaker 4: can't sue McDonald's or I don't even know if that's
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  Speaker 4: actually true, but you know, it's just in that contract.
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  Speaker 4: So I suspect they probably legally just do have to
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  Speaker 4: pay this fine and there's not a whole lot they
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  Speaker 4: can do about it.
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  Speaker 3: That's annoying. I don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: The the Jaren Jackson Junior timing with the shutdown was
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  Speaker 2: I mean, pointed, felt conspicuous, But then you look up
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  Speaker 2: this knee injury that I was not aware of previously,
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  Speaker 2: despite an entire professional lifetime of covering sports and pro sports,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, yeah, this is like it's a thing,
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  Speaker 2: and the correction for this thing is surgery. Did they
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  Speaker 2: really need to shut him down with a legitimate knee
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  Speaker 2: cleanup or could he have played through this for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the year.
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  Speaker 4: I think he probably could have played through it. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that was something we asked Austin am yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: he said, look, you know, it's we decided that it
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  Speaker 4: was an issue that needed surgery, and it makes sense
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  Speaker 4: to do it as soon as possible rather than risk
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  Speaker 4: it getting worse. And I think that that totally makes sense, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: given where the Jazz are, even if you know, even
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  Speaker 4: if they weren't trying to lose games, they were just
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  Speaker 4: kind of in a period of development or you know,
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  Speaker 4: just you know, you're out of playoff position. I think
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  Speaker 4: even ten fifteen years ago they still would have had
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  Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Junior get the surgery. Now, I think maybe
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  Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, they try to bring him back to
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  Speaker 4: the last two weeks of the season in a way
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  Speaker 4: that I don't think will happen this year because it
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  Speaker 4: is kind of a minor surgery. It's kind of Arthur's coptic.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like kind of a four to six week
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  Speaker 4: out kind of thing rather than a eight to twelve
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  Speaker 4: week out kind of thing. But yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think it is a real thing. It's funny. I was
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  Speaker 4: reading some Memphis Grizzly fans online that we're like, how
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  Speaker 4: did our medical staff k not give us jess Pat
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  Speaker 4: Darren Jackson Junior for a week and all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden they've discovered this chronic issue that needs treatment, which
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  Speaker 4: I agree the Grizzlies medical staffs has some egg on
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  Speaker 4: their face about this, but you know, it does seem
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  Speaker 4: to be a It's one of those things that it's
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  Speaker 4: good that the Jazz found in the MRI. And you
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  Speaker 4: can tell how serious it was by the fact that
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  Speaker 4: they did allow him to play the three games that
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  Speaker 4: he got to play after they discovered it. But yes,
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  Speaker 4: then you know, take care of it now, allow him
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  Speaker 4: to have the full off season to train and get
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  Speaker 4: better and rest and all that and come back next year.
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  Speaker 4: It does just kind of make sense for all parties
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  Speaker 4: of vault.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what is the path forward for the Utah Jazz?
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that when you play everybody, you're too good to
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  Speaker 2: keep your pick, probably, but wanting desperately to keep that pick,
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  Speaker 2: and especially now wanting to throw the double birds to
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City who is playing tattletale and maybe put some
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  Speaker 2: of this pressure on you. You especially need to keep
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  Speaker 2: that pick now. But it's like you know when you
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  Speaker 2: tell your kid, hey, the next person who throws a
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  Speaker 2: punch is getting a spanking, and then that kid's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh crap, Now I really can't do anything wrong because
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  Speaker 2: mom or dad is watching me. You've already been punished
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  Speaker 2: for this tank once and you still need to continue
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  Speaker 2: it in like the I guess accepted manner. What does
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  Speaker 2: that look like for the Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's kind of what I tried to
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  Speaker 4: ask Will Hardy last night, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: pretty clear in his answer that the Jazz are going
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  Speaker 4: to continue tanking in the way that they see best fit.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I I five hundred thousand dollars to an
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  Speaker 4: NBA franchise worth four point one billion dollars. It's just
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  Speaker 4: not that much. It was something actually the players were
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  Speaker 4: joking about in the locker room after the game yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: like this to Ryan Smith, is not actually that big
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  Speaker 4: of a larger amount of money. I mean, they got
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  Speaker 4: three million dollars for example in the Jock Landale trade,
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  Speaker 4: which I don't think you know, happened last week, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that there are a lot of Jazz
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  Speaker 4: fans I remember that. So that'll take care of a
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  Speaker 4: few fines there. You know, like this is this is
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  Speaker 4: a rounding error in the NBA spectrum. So I you know,
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  Speaker 4: even if they escalate these fines to a million dollars
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  Speaker 4: or then the the player Participation policy says you escalate
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  Speaker 4: it by a quarter million every fine, and oh yep,
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  Speaker 4: and seven finds from now, the Jazz will be fined
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  Speaker 4: two million dollars. And it's just like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: how much are you currently paying for a j debonsa
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  Speaker 4: Frankly while he plays for BYU. So you look, it's
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  Speaker 4: I do not think that this will change the Jazz's behavior.
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  Speaker 4: And again that's another thing that makes us so ludicrous
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  Speaker 4: and just absurd, is these finds won't do anything. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Adam Silver can shake the rattle and say, ah, you're
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  Speaker 4: threatening the integrity of the NBA, and it's just like
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  Speaker 4: all right, bro, well we're gonna keep doing this because's
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  Speaker 4: the system is just a joke.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't talked about the pacers and they're one hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine.
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  Speaker 3: And the.
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  Speaker 2: Clear distinction between the way the Pacers conduct their business
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  Speaker 2: in the way the Utah Jazz conduct their business, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: will will more teams if you're gonna do it to
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  Speaker 2: the jazz and there are, like you said, ten teams
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  Speaker 2: doing it. Are more teams going to find themselves in
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  Speaker 2: the crosshairs of the NBA? Or is this like the
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  Speaker 2: message being sent to everyone and the Jazz just have
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  Speaker 2: to be the bullied team right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that the statement
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  Speaker 4: and the fine landed last night and today the way
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  Speaker 4: that the NBA thought it would. I mean, I thought
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  Speaker 4: I saw a lot of pushback on social media, and
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  Speaker 4: then I'm seeing a lot of pushback among like NBA
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  Speaker 4: kind of official platforms today right like on ESPN, on
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  Speaker 4: from like Amazon Prime. Commentators like there's a real sense
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  Speaker 4: in this in this find that like that the NBA
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  Speaker 4: kind of did screw the Jazz a little bit in
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  Speaker 4: a way that was unfair, And I don't you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's I think a lot of conversation about how the
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  Speaker 4: league can fix this. But I don't think like everyone
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, yes, justice has been done here, well done, NBA.
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  Speaker 4: Adam Silver finally growing a backbone to the issues of
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  Speaker 4: the league. You know, it's like everyone's gonna making fun
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  Speaker 4: of Adam Silver here he looks pretty bad. Uh, and
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  Speaker 4: then he's gonna have a press conference during All Star
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  Speaker 4: weekend where he's going to be asked about that. So
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  Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if there are can continued
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  Speaker 4: finds moving forward, but kind of limited finds moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't think that they're going to have an
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  Speaker 4: eagle eye on every instance of this. And yes, that
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  Speaker 4: means that they are probably treating the Jazz differently than
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  Speaker 4: the other teams, but like, it's just not a big
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  Speaker 4: pr win for them to have a new tanking fine
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  Speaker 4: every day. That makes the league look awful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that at least.
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  Speaker 2: So give me give me some insight on the decision
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  Speaker 2: making process you went through personally to abdicate your throne
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  Speaker 2: as the jazz writer and move into the data world
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  Speaker 2: more more consistently.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's I you know, I love
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz and this has been my dream job, right
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  Speaker 4: Like I grew up reading the Tribune and reading the
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: jazz coverage there, like with my breakfast Cereal when I
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  Speaker 4: was like in high school, and to be able to
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: like go around the country and watch basketball games for
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  Speaker 4: my job has been a dream come true. It also
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  Speaker 4: is a crazy life, and it is a lot of travel,
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  Speaker 4: and it is insane hours, and you don't get very
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  Speaker 4: much sleep and you end up eating you know, like
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  Speaker 4: weird Tgi Friday's meals that you know, I posted the
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  Speaker 4: pictures of me when I started this job, when I
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: was twenty two, and what I look like now when
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I'm thirty four, and I look like I've aged thirty
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  Speaker 4: five years. You know, I look like I'm fifty now.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I think like just living a healthier lifestyle,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: developing relationships in my world with friends and family and love.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I think I'm really excited for and then
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to like kind of open my fear of interest,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you know. Like I love basketball for sure, and sports
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  Speaker 4: will always be an important part of who I am.
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  Speaker 4: I love competition, I love everything about it. The last
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: four years of covering the Jazz have been a little
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: bit mundane have been a little bit, uh, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: not every day was is as interesting as yesterday was,
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  Speaker 4: and so I'm excited to kind of get to use
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: my curiosity, my analytical skills on other things in the world,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: whether that's you know, I think it can be politics sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it wanted to be all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I want it to be about kind of issues that
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  Speaker 4: matter to Utah's and from Like I'm doing an article
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  Speaker 4: right now on airfare costs from Salt Lake City's airport, healthcare.
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  Speaker 4: I mean all that's all kind of random stuff that
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: happens in our world that matters to people. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm honestly really looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm very much looking forward to the airfare one.
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  Speaker 2: Like I travel a lot, and that's one I'm very
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: very interested in.
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  Speaker 3: So when does that coming out.
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  Speaker 4: It's I think in two weeks is the current plan,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: which I know now you're going to wait for that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: but yeah, that's that's what we got, all right.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we appreciate the work that you've done obviously
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  Speaker 2: on the Jazz Beat and all the contributions you've given
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  Speaker 2: to this show and to every other show that I've
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  Speaker 2: done over the years that I've known you, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: wish you luck, but hopefully we still see you around.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully every once in a while we can still reach
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  Speaker 2: out and make up a reason to talk to you
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  Speaker 2: here on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was. I was, first of all, I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: not going away. I'll still cover some jazz games, I'll
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: still help out, you know, it's just kind of going
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: from a major focus to the minor focus. And then
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I was telling Spence the other day, like, yes, then
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: seven hundred has been a huge part of my story, right,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Like I hosted the Saltity Hoops show on this station,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: and you know, the chance to talk to you guys
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  Speaker 4: on a weekly basis and all the time. And heck,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I have enjoyed my friendship with you, like it's this
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: has been. It's you guys have given me a lot.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: So I want to thank you and obviously your listeners
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: for that too.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Well, the relationship will continue and we do appreciate you,
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  Speaker 2: and good luck.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll chat again soon.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds good, Thanks man.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Andy Larson, or as I affectionately referred to him, Andy
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Blarsen because it's Andy B.
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  Speaker 3: Larson on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: He's really really good at what he does, and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: know he'll be really really good focusing more on the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: data side of things, and yes, I will be eagerly
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: awaiting what he can find with the airfare costs traveling
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  Speaker 2: from Salt Lake City Airport, because I do that quite
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  Speaker 2: a lot.