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Ian Furness 10/23 H2: Jarran Reed's thoughts, Danny O'Neill and Gregg Bell with some unfortunate Seahawks updates. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rockies. Day before the day before Seahawks. Let
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  Speaker 2: me just check and see if it's been sent yet.
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  Speaker 2: Does not appear. Injury update we should get any time
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  Speaker 2: now from your Seahawks. But we do know that there's
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that should be good to go,
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  Speaker 2: including Anthony Bradford and Zach Charbonnet. As well. All right. Kraken,
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  Speaker 2: big win last night. Mammoth win, you could call it,
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  Speaker 2: over the Utah Mammoth. Up 3-1 entering the third period.
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  Speaker 2: The Kraken saw Utah tied eight minutes in, but the
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  Speaker 2: Kraken did get back on track. Mackie Samaskevich game winning goal.
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  Speaker 2: Freddie Gaudreau emptying it at a 5-3 win. Big news
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  Speaker 2: in the NHL. Devils have acquired goaltender Connor Hellebuck from Winnipeg.
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  Speaker 2: Exchange for four players and two draft picks. Well, we're
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed a first-time winner in the Fall Classic as the
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  Speaker 2: World Series starts tonight between the Rays and the Milwaukee Brewers. Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: you know what that means when it's all said and done?
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  Speaker 3: I do, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. There will be just four teams in the
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  Speaker 2: history of Major League Baseball currently that are playing that
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  Speaker 2: have never won the World Series. There's five right now.
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  Speaker 2: There will be four.
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  Speaker 4: How many are there that have never been?
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  Speaker 2: There's one. That would be your Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 4: That hurts.
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  Speaker 2: That does hurt. Hard to win when you've never been,
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  Speaker 2: but you're correct in that assessment. There's only one that
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  Speaker 2: has never been.
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  Speaker 3: That would be us.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe next year.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: If we even have a season now. We could have
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  Speaker 2: a season next year. Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 4: Make a lemonade out of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Let's see. Baker Mayfield's back this week.
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  Speaker 2: And Mecca Bucca, though, is out for your fantasy worries.
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  Speaker 4: I need to make that change now.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people stressed out over that action. Let's see. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and Jesse Legree, star wide receiver at Oregon State, announcing
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  Speaker 2: he is staying at Oregon State next season. He's not
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  Speaker 2: going to enter the transfer portal in the offseason. Kind
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  Speaker 2: of huge news in college football as well. Let's move
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  Speaker 2: into the second hour of the show. Danny O'Neill will
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  Speaker 2: join us here at 120 today. Dang apostrophe. We did
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  Speaker 2: not get a chance to talk to him last. We
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  Speaker 2: had a one-hour show last Friday. I have to say
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  Speaker 2: that because Ashley wasn't there for the one hour show.
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  Speaker 2: She decided that it was not worth her time to
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  Speaker 2: come in for just 60 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't decide that. Others decided it for me and
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  Speaker 4: I didn't disagree.
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  Speaker 2: I think the week before you, you came in for
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  Speaker 2: a longer show, right?
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  Speaker 4: Cause not on the day before the day before I
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  Speaker 4: helped out Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With the cracking schedule, kind of all goofy and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, no Danny O'Neill, no Greg Cosell, no Rob
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  Speaker 2: rang last week. So it was a very quiet one
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  Speaker 2: hour last week. So, But we'll go back to our
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  Speaker 2: normal stuff. Rang's going to join us at 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: We'll look ahead to the college football weekend, among other things.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming up at 2 p.m. today. Looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: that conversation with Rob. And then, obviously, we've got Factor
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  Speaker 2: Fiction final pick of the week coming up at 2.35
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon. My pick, God, well, I've got to check something, Ash.
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  Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a second here. We're going to get to
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  Speaker 2: Jaron Reed here in just a second. Let me click
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  Speaker 2: on the Google Chrome tab here, which is where I
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  Speaker 2: have a little Excel sheet. Because there had to have
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  Speaker 2: been losers last night, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, there were.
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  Speaker 4: I think Jackson lost because that game did not go under,
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: Anderson Hurst lost. He had plus three in that game.
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  Speaker 2: What was the final score in the game?
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking right now because I saw it. Just a second.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 30-24, so 54.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, it went over 50 and a half.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a red mark next to his name yet.
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  Speaker 2: He needs to get that in there. Can we talk
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  Speaker 2: to Anders and get that in there?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I can see two red marks up there besides mine? Right.
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  Speaker 4: That would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: From earlier in the week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like they're doing this intentionally to you.
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  Speaker 2: As do I. Now, Jessamyn did get a fact because
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  Speaker 2: she hit the Bears. So, yeah, our pick coming up,
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  Speaker 2: our last pick. If you missed it yesterday, Seattle minus
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  Speaker 2: two and a half against Kansas City. I like the
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  Speaker 2: hometown flavor on that one. Let's go. Let's go. 72%
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  Speaker 2: of the people agreed with him.
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  Speaker 4: I love that confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go, Hawks. Come on. 72% of the people agreed
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  Speaker 2: with Jackson. He was wrong. Well, don't worry, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be right.
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  Speaker 2: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be right.
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  Speaker 2: He is the mayor of Wrongsville, that guy. Old Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Feltz is. 72%. I've got to find a pick. I've
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  Speaker 2: got to get a win, man. God, I need a win.
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  Speaker 2: I already feel dirty because I took BYU this week.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of the Seahawks, minus two and a half against
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City. I'm surprised by that spread. I thought Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City would be favored.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually did as well. I mean, obviously part
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  Speaker 4: of it being that we're at home.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially, that's the only part. That's the only part with
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  Speaker 2: minus two.
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  Speaker 7: And a half.
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  Speaker 4: But I still would have thought they would have been
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  Speaker 4: more of a favorite than that. I would have expected
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  Speaker 4: them to have that two and a half.
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  Speaker 2: As did I. But that's all right.
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  Speaker 4: We got this.
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  Speaker 2: Jaron Reed, a unique story. Of course, Seahawks. He's on
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  Speaker 2: his second tour of duty with the Seahawks. Came here
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  Speaker 2: a few years ago and first came here out of college.
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  Speaker 2: Was kind of tutored by Michael Bennett, Cliff Averill, and
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  Speaker 2: that group at the end of their tenure. kind of
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  Speaker 2: one of the alpha males, alpha dogs in that locker room.
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  Speaker 2: I love talking to Jay Reed every year. It's just
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  Speaker 2: been fun watching him mature and grow over the years,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a big part of what they do. He
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  Speaker 2: also played for Andy Reed and the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: and with Pat Mahomes and that whole crew there in
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City, he's got the tough task, as does that
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk defense, of slowing down Mahomes. Kenneth Walker and company
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  Speaker 2: and the Andy Reed offense on Sunday. And I caught
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  Speaker 2: up with him on Wednesday. I want to replay a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of that. Cause he was a great interview.
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  Speaker 2: Fun talking to, to Jay Reed. Here's Jaron Reed. And
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  Speaker 2: the first thing I asked him was, uh, what is
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  Speaker 2: it about Andy Reed that makes him special?
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  Speaker 8: I think it's the way that, uh, he, he, he,
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  Speaker 8: he demands the players demands greatness. Um, you know, if
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  Speaker 8: anything's going wrong, he calls out what he see, no
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  Speaker 8: matter who it is. And he demands greatness from his players. And, um, Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he never wavers. You know, any things go bad, he doesn't, like,
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  Speaker 8: try to go in and change what they're doing or
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  Speaker 8: change the process. You just get better at what you're doing,
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  Speaker 8: and I think he does a good job of that.
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  Speaker 2: I say that because you got a guy here that's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit younger than Andy, 30 years, but a
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  Speaker 2: little bit younger. Here we are in year three of
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. Good 10-win season the first year. Lombardi Trophy
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  Speaker 2: sits out in the hallway for second year. I know
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  Speaker 2: you guys will turn it around at some point during
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  Speaker 2: this year. But you've been around Mike now long enough.
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  Speaker 2: You were around Pete for those years. You've been around Randy.
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  Speaker 2: You've been lucky. You've been around some pretty damn good
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  Speaker 2: coaches over your years, right?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about Mike in year three. We saw him
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  Speaker 2: on hard knocks. We saw this guy's kind of a nerd,
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  Speaker 2: but he's kind of a good nerd, but he's got
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  Speaker 2: that presence about him. How does he balance that where
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  Speaker 2: he can relate to a guy like you?
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  Speaker 8: Well, Mike takes control, man. He's a great coach, very
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  Speaker 8: sturdy guy. And I'm very headstrong, and that's what you
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  Speaker 8: need as a head coach, man. He's not afraid to
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  Speaker 8: attack what needs to be attacked. He's not afraid to
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  Speaker 8: say what needs to be said, and he demands great
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  Speaker 8: affirmation as well.
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  Speaker 3: I like his thinking. I like his methods.
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  Speaker 8: I like how he attacks everything and gets us going,
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  Speaker 8: and we trust him, and we trust the process.
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  Speaker 2: The process this week, and Jared, read with us, is
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  Speaker 2: going to be canine. Like, you know he's coming. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know that they're going to make a– he's been
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  Speaker 2: a focal point all year anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know him. You know him as well as anybody.
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  Speaker 2: He knows you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Excited about the matchup and why?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, very excited. I mean, K-9 is my friend. It's
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  Speaker 3: my guy. But, you know, on Sunday, there's no friends.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, does Jeremy have a
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  Speaker 2: friend on the other team on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, nah, nah.
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  Speaker 8: You know, well, you know, it's a good offense, good defense. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, just speaking on our side of the ball,
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  Speaker 8: you know, we're going to be ready to play.
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  Speaker 2: What does it separate him, K-9? What separates him from other?
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  Speaker 2: You go against good running backs every week. What separates him?
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  Speaker 8: I think K-9 is a complete back. Um, He's a
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  Speaker 8: guy that if you don't play a sound gap, he
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  Speaker 8: can hurt you. He's an explosive back, complete, three-down back. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, whenever he gets the ball in his hands,
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  Speaker 8: he's always electric. So, you know, we got to get
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  Speaker 8: 11 hats to the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You got the other guy that plays quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He's back.
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  Speaker 2: He's healthy. You were around him for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes. Let's talk about him, what makes him special,
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  Speaker 2: what separates him.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Pat's a true leader, man. He's a dog mentality.
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  Speaker 8: He has, like, the high-level quarterback play mixed with some
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  Speaker 8: backyard play. And, yeah, they're good at what they do, man.
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  Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you know, we
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  Speaker 8: got to get ready to play Sunday, man. It's 11
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  Speaker 8: on 11.
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  Speaker 2: Does it drive you nuts as a defensive lineman when
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  Speaker 2: you see Mahomes, especially when you're going against him, when
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  Speaker 2: you see him, he does that little thing where he's
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  Speaker 2: going to run. It looks like he might slide or
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  Speaker 2: step out of bounds. And then he tries to get, like,
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  Speaker 2: 10 more yards because you can't hit him. Yeah. How
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  Speaker 2: do you balance that, man? Like, you got to be
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  Speaker 2: able to kill the guy at that point.
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  Speaker 3: You haul ass to the ball and you hit him.
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  Speaker 3: And if he slides, you just fly over the top.
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  Speaker 3: You don't stop.
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  Speaker 2: They protect quarterbacks too much this league, don't they?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Huh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, everybody has an opinion for sure.
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  Speaker 2: What's your opinion?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to get fined for saying that.
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  Speaker 8: I think, I definitely think they do, you know, which
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  Speaker 8: they can go all the way around the board, especially
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  Speaker 8: if the guy's on defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's the way of life. They don't protect you guys. No,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. They don't protect you guys. I'll wrap
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  Speaker 2: it up with this, Jaron Reed. We've talked about this here.
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  Speaker 2: I just love, I'm always fascinated by this. Just, your
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  Speaker 2: story's great. Um, Watching you evolve has been awesome, just
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  Speaker 2: watching from the young guy coming in here, from Bam
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  Speaker 2: and everything like that. But you're the guy now. You're
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  Speaker 2: the alpha dog in that room so many times. You're
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  Speaker 2: trying to lead the young Derek Halls world. But you've
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  Speaker 2: got guys like Chena and DeMarcus and others in there too.
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  Speaker 2: But how much do you embrace the role? Because we
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  Speaker 2: saw Cooper do that a lot in hard knocks, right?
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  Speaker 2: And Cooper kind of really does on the offensive side
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  Speaker 2: in his own way. We saw a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: you on Hard Knocks. I wanted to see more, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. I wanted to see more.
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  Speaker 3: I'll stay away from it.
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  Speaker 2: Did you stay away from it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you really try to stay away from it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I was telling people, I said, I'll tell you what,
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  Speaker 2: if they want to have some fun, they'll put a
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  Speaker 2: mic on Jeremy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? But how much do you just embrace the role
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  Speaker 2: that you're in right now? You're a key player on
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  Speaker 2: the field.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I know what Mike said and stuff. You're probably
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  Speaker 2: as important off the field for this team. How much
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  Speaker 2: do you just embrace being that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's good, man. I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 8: But, you know, I've got a lot to give to
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  Speaker 8: the guys being one of the last guys in the building.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just being here, you know, for a minute.
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  Speaker 8: Letting the guys know the way of life, how we
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  Speaker 8: attack stuff, just the mindset that we've got to take
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  Speaker 8: on as a team to be a great championship caliber team.
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  Speaker 8: In the room, there's a lot of great guys like that. Leo, Chana, EJ,
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  Speaker 8: You know, we have some real dogs on the team.
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  Speaker 8: You know, every guy has their calling. And sometimes I
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  Speaker 8: can chatter a little bit to get the guys going. But,
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  Speaker 8: you know, it's all just to make sure we're all
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  Speaker 8: on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: You won't have to do that this weekend. I'll wrap
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  Speaker 2: it up with this. I had Dee Holland here a
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  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago. We're talking about San Francisco. You've been
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  Speaker 2: here through the highs and the lows. I would say
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  Speaker 2: the lows in 2023 when all of a sudden you're
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: looking out there and there's, like, more Pittsburgh fans or
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  Speaker 2: 49er fans in the building than there were Seattle fans.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the case anymore. Lumen Field's back.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Lumen Field's back. What do you guys need? What do
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  Speaker 2: you need from Lumen Field and what difference? Because there
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  Speaker 2: is a rumor that Kansas City is a louder stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I've been to both.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so, but what do you need from
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  Speaker 2: the 12s this weekend?
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  Speaker 8: Down here in Lumen, first of all, fill all the
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  Speaker 8: seats in. We don't need to see no red. It
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  Speaker 8: needs to be all Cs of blue.
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  Speaker 3: And fill it in and get loud, man. We need
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  Speaker 3: the decimals up.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think– have we made people jump off sides
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  Speaker 8: yet this year?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we need. We need a loud rock. We
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  Speaker 3: need another earthquake.
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  Speaker 2: You need it. He's 24. I just saw him at
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  Speaker 2: the hockey game last night. Maybe he can roll in
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  Speaker 2: there and get a couple carries.
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  Speaker 3: We definitely need another earthquake, man.
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  Speaker 2: Beast quake or something. Do they make a difference?
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  Speaker 3: They absolutely make a difference, man. They bring energy to us.
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  Speaker 3: Jaren Reed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the crowd's going to have to make
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  Speaker 2: a difference coming up on Sunday. I think they can.
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  Speaker 2: I think they'll be fired up. He brought something up.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to look at their notes. I forgot about this.
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  Speaker 2: He said this the other day and I didn't, it
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  Speaker 2: didn't resonate with me, Ash, but I don't, because he
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  Speaker 2: used to make a big deal of this in the
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  Speaker 2: game notes. I'm just going through it right now. I don't,
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  Speaker 2: have they not had a false start induced this season?
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  Speaker 4: That's what, yeah. When you guys asked, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: And I meant to look it up and I forgot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now because I'm looking, they have,
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  Speaker 2: they've always had it in their game notes. So I'm just,
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  Speaker 2: I'm scrolling through very quickly. This is great radio. Apologies
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  Speaker 2: to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And while you're doing that, I'll look over here at
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  Speaker 4: team stats. And see if it's up here.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's... Oh, here we go. 308 false starts at
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  Speaker 2: Lumen Field since 2002. It doesn't say anything about this year.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And usually it'll say that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because penalties, it just shows penalties.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a challenge to the Seattle fans. It's a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Pat Mahomes doesn't feel like he's the
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  Speaker 2: guy that's going to have a false start. But, you know,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: they'll be waving at the sideline getting the play in. Here, here, here,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: with my hands. You know, that stuff. But I don't...
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting dynamic. I didn't know that. But he
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: brought it up. I'm going to believe Jaron Reed when
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: he says it. That's what I'm going to do.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. But he did
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: kind of question it as well. Oh, look, it looks
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: like actually, yes, there was one against the Niners.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: There you go. Okay.
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: And one against, so only two.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: There's a 100% chance if I look on the text
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: line right now, I'm going to have that too. Someone's
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: going to have that. You're an idiot. Why did you
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: not forget? Because I don't keep track of such things.
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Come back. Danny O'Neill. It's been
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: too long. I haven't talked to Danny for a couple
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: of weeks. Dang apostrophe. He joins us coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: call 425-255-0500. Now here's Ian with Danny O'Neill.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Daniel O'Neill, dang apostrophe, joins us every Friday that we can.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Last week he was gone and we had like a
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: 20-minute show. So we didn't talk last week, so it's
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: been a while. Hello, sir. How are you?
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: I'm doing well. It's been an interesting day here, Ian,
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: but I'm doing fairly well.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: What's going on? What can you share with us? We're
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: worried about you. What's going on?
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: Ian, I had to shave my chest for the first
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: time today. Whoa.
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: Whoa.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Are you a little procedure coming up or something? Yeah,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I did not expect that.
• 14:22
  Speaker 7: Nah, it kind of related to it, but yet I, no, I,
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: I was wearing a heart rate monitor.
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: And when the, when the heart rate monitor was affixed
• 14:31
  Speaker 7: to me at the cardiologist, she had commented that like, okay,
• 14:36
  Speaker 7: there's a fair, I don't think of myself as an
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: exceptionally hairy person.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: I think I'm, I think I'm average hairy.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: And she, she expressed concern that it may not adhere
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: to Uh, it had three electrodes with little stickies on them.
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: And then she's like, well, it seems like it's sticking. Okay.
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: And when I went to, when I went to take
• 14:56
  Speaker 7: it off today, um, I ripped one of the electrodes
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: off because it was so tightly adhered to my chest hair.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, ouch.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: So you just, so I broke the machine. Oh God.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: I broke the machine.
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: And before I went back to say, can you reaffix
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: the machine to me? I, I decided I should probably,
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: I should probably remove the hair that had called the problem.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: So what a day, what a day in New York.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know how I feel about it. I don't
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: know how I feel about it. It's a, It's like
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I'm driving with the top down.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Well, the bigger question is how Mrs. O'Neill will feel
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: about it when it's all said and done.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: I don't think she really particularly cares.
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: I don't believe she would say that I am of
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: average hairiness.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: I don't think that would be her assessment.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neill joining us. Oh, buddy, we've got a lot
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: going on in the world. Hey, I want to hit
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: on something that I just saw. I read it in
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the paper this morning, and I was going to actually–
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it's not my business necessarily to bring it up, but
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: it can be your business to bring it up. The
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: story came out today that, and this is a big
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: thing now in college sports, where we're all looking around,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: who's spending what, what are we spending, all those things.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And the story came out today that Washington is spending
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the least amount of money on men's basketball of any
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: team in the Big Ten. And immediately, you know, then
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: the uproar starts and all this. And then the backlash is, well,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we gave Danny Sprinkle a bunch of money
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the first year. And, I mean, in fairness, I mean,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: they had the great Osabor contract that some people say
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: was worth seven figures. They spent money last year. It
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: hasn't worked out. It hasn't panned out. He's had money.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: And then we see Jesse Legree is staying at Oregon State,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the great wide receiver, freshman wide receiver. He announces midseason
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: he's staying, which now is a thing, too. The college
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: spending is just getting out of control in so many ways.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: And then there's also the guilt that gets put on people.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Donor fatigue kicks in. Let me just start with you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: as a Husky, because it relates as well to the
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: college football side with DeMond Williams. Who do you play?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Do you play the guy that's getting paid the most,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: or do you play the other guy that transferred here
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: from Stanford? I don't know if you saw that story,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: but what was your reaction, first of all, on the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: basketball side of things?
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the basketball.
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: And I definitely felt this at the time. that Washington
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: men's basketball specifically was going to, they were being taken
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: there along for the ride in the move to the
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: big 10. And while I had reservations about this, the
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: entire athletic program, I was fairly certain this was a
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: bad move for Washington men's basketball.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Like just specifically to.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Go to the big 10 because of the facilities that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: You're dealing with.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: The facilities, the question is, the fact that there is
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: a half share or a lesser share of the broadcast revenue,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: at least at the first, everything excess was going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: be pumped into football. Like that is, if anything, this
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: move was going to make Washington focus more on football.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: And it's actually, what's odd is that the first two
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: years and even last year, there was quite a bit
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: of money and I think it was largely coming from
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: one source, but there was, they, they had quite a
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: bit of NIL, which is how they got some of
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: the players, not just great.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Osabor, but, but a couple of the guys they had
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: And that was, very obviously is not there this year
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: and that it's going to be really tough sledding for
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Danny Sprinkle. I think Danny Sprinkle is a really good coach.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: I think the situation he's in right now is going
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: to be really tough and it'd be tough for any
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: coach because of what's happened. And last season, I'm not
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: sure how much of a say he had in where
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: some of that money was going. I think he was told,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: and my understanding is he was told some guys are
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: coming that he didn't necessarily go out and stand on
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: the table to say, here's the guy we need to
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: get in here.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just kind of looking through here. I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: they've got their roster right now. Wesley Yates is back.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of guys that actually, you know, Wesley
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yates is back. They get Steele Venters, who was, you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: at Eastern and Gonzaga. He blew his knee out, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: he's coming back. He can shoot. But some guy from
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Eastern Kentucky, Evansville, and Nevada. So this will be his
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: fourth school, Tayshaun Comer. I'm just, oh, Lathan Somerville from
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Rutgers is back. I saw that the other day. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: kind of chuckled. I'm like, well, do they really want
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: him back? Do they have a choice? You know, Brandon
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Roy's son, who's kind of still a project and kind
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of still developing. Yeah, it's not an impressive roster. I'll
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: just say that. And LaJuan Watts is probably one of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: your stars, who was at Texas Tech last year. He
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: has to be getting paid. LaJuan Watts has to be
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: getting paid because he got paid at Texas Tech. So
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you're paying like maybe one or two guys. But I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: don't know, Danny. To me, it's just it's, I hate it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I hate when it doesn't matter if my school, your school,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: anybody's school, it's like, well, you got to give money
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to these. Why do I want to pay an 18
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to 22 year old? I guess I know that that's
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: what they want, but man, oh man, I just have
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a hard time stomaching that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: It creates, I feel the same way. And I've had
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: a huge issue with feeling kind of shamed.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And there is an.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Implication that is spoken out. And Washington's football coach, Jed Fish,
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: has kind of talked about sort of the need to,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: if you want to compete at this other level. kind
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: of the implication being Washington needs to get serious about it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: And I think mostly what people are talking about is big,
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: well-keeled boosters, guys with significantly more money. But I feel
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: that pressure and obligation. And frankly, I don't accept it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I love my school. I love the University of Washington.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I love the football program. I am not going to bankroll.
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: The, the, the NIL, the, the compensation that goes to players,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: because I think that that, that is just, that's not
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: what I've ever signed up for as a fan. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: I also feel that there's a certain level of expectation
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: that then comes with that, that I'm just not comfortable
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: with putting on. I, it's not my responsibility.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I buy tickets. I go to games.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: I support the school that way. And I'm comfortable doing that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not comfortable with the donation side of it. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: that might be a difference between sort of how Washington's
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: fan base, or at least me, feels and some of
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: the people in the SEC.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: But man, forever....
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: People have been willing to, to some people really enjoy
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: spending money to get athletes at their school. And there's
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: something just, it's, it doesn't feel right to me. It
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: doesn't feel right to me for that to be coming
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: from the fan level. When it comes to coaches talking
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: about it, I can understand their desire to have sort
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: of ample resources and that may be applying some of
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: that pressure that, Hey, we're underfunded. But I actually think
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: that when coaches talk that way, it actually defeats it
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: because it creates an implication that the guys that are
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: here are aren't, aren't good enough. We can't afford the
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: players that we need to be.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Able to compete.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: And, and I think that that's the wrong message to
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: be sending to your roster. The coach's job is to
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: make the most out of the guys he has. And
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: I don't think that looking at and talking about the,
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: the level that you're able to, to spend that is,
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: is the way to do it. It just, it sets
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: a bad tone.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Plus it's whining. It really comes across as whining.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: And in today's college football, college sports and college football specifically,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: I think the best way is when you get good,
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: then you get more donations to keep that team, keep
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: those players compensated and keep them from transferring elsewhere. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: think that's how it generally worked. It's certainly how it
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: worked in Kalen DeVore's second year. When Michael Penix and
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Roma Dunze and Troy Fautano, like all those guys, some
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: of them didn't go to the pros. Some of them,
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: none of them transferred other places, but they were all
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: kept in place. Like there, there is, I think that's
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: the best way to go about it rather than thinking, Hey,
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: if you give us a bunch of money, we'll be
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: able to go out and buy success because that the
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: flip side of it is you look at Texas, Oregon, USC,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: like they're not lacking for any sort of NIL fund.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: It doesn't necessarily translate that you can buy your way
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: to the top either.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: No, imagine investing in Arch Manning or Bryce Underwood. Bryce
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Underwood was a, he was a one, one person did that,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that she was in love with him or whatever. But,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, that's the, I mean, for in,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in Sprinkles case, you know, he went out, he gets
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: zoomed Diallo and who's a local kid, obviously, but You know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Zoom's here, and, you know, you've got Frank Kepnang and,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Wesley Yates is sticking around. But you've got
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: all these guys from last year, and it just didn't translate.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: So how do you go back to the well and say,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I need money? Well, it hasn't worked the first two years.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: It's unfair. It's just unfair to everyone. I think it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: unfair to the fan base, and it doesn't matter what
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the school is. It's frustrating. And then there's pressure. Like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: do you play Elijah Brown? Do you play DeMond Williams?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, those are all realities of where we are.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: in college athletics, and it just kind of feels gross.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Let me switch over to the Seahawks. Danny, I don't
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: know if you know this. Ken Walker plays for Kansas
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: City now. We haven't talked about it much this week,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: but we will now, I guess, just because it's a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: big deal. I mean, God, buddy, you wouldn't believe it here.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It is unreal. It is unreal.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: I get a whiff of it. I get a very
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: strong whiff of it off.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: The internet that this is felt that it was some
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: giant malpractice. to let Kenneth Walker go or let him
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: out the door. And you can't make that decision based
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: on six games or that assessment based on six games.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: And that's, I.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Think that it's possible that Seattle will come to really
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: regret it, but based on the body of work that
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: they had over four years with Kenneth Walker, I think
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: that their decision was like a sound rationale that, Hey,
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: He is part of a running back combination.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: This isn't because Seattle's been willing to make, they paid
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Marshawn Lynch. They paid Marshawn.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Lynch a top of position deal, but with Marshawn Lynch,
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: you didn't need a second back.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: He was going to take all the work.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: There's nothing that you had seen over the past four
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: years from Kenneth Walker that made you think, hey, if
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: we pay him to be our every down running back,
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: he's going to hold up under that workload. Now, maybe
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: he will in Kansas City, but I even think like
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: looking back to last year, one of the reasons that
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: he was, in my mind, so effective was in the
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: last month of the season and then in the playoffs
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: was because they had him share the load early on.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Because he wasn't overworked. So we'll see how he holds up.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: But I do, I just think that that, that offense
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: is not one running back away from having everything humming.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker would not save what is currently going on
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: with Seattle's office. Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We don't, if you're doing the old baseball win above replacement,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: maybe he's worth a win. Maybe, maybe they're foreign to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: right now. Maybe they're foreign to, I mean, He definitely
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: helps them. I mean, what they have right now isn't
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: good enough. But I'm with you. He's five games into
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: his tenure in Kansas City. We're six games into this
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: thing without it. Jadarian Price has been hurt. Now, when
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we get to games, you know... 17 games and the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: season's over, we'll look back and say, I mean, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I always want to be careful. I wish they would
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: have kept him. I wanted them to keep him. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. None of us know because Schneider doesn't talk
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: about this publicly. None of us know what went into that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: We can guess, right? We can speculate, Danny, and the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: speculation and guess is that, well, he probably looked at
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: it and said, this guy has never had his high
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: carries ever, was his rookie year of 228, and he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: still missed a couple games that year. He had 219, 153, 221.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Those were his carries in his career. So not a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: massive workload. He's already got 106 carries this season. Is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he going to hold up? If he does, good for him.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And maybe it just ends up being a brilliant move
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: for Kansas City and maybe ends up being a moronic
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: move for Seattle, but I think it's too early to tell.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: But the problem is that Seattle's offense has a lot
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of problems right now.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: It does.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: And I'm not sure that there's an easy fix for that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: It'll help it'll help if they get healthier at running back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Certainly that's part of it, but you have a new
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: coordinator and a quarterback who's always been turnover prone. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: I think that the difficulty that they have running the
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: ball is, is accentuating some of Sam's tendencies. It's more
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: making the, the, the, the throws stick out. And then
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: I can't tell you why the offensive line doesn't seem
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: to be better. I know there's been some conversation that
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: they were using the, more players in protection last year.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: But even when you look at those rates of how
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: many times they kept in seven plus or max protect,
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: like you're really only talking about a handful of plays.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: I think 11% last year, they had seven plus and
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: it's like 4% this year.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: So you're talking about a difference.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: Of three plays a game that to me doesn't explain
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: why the protection seems so much worse this year than it,
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: than it was last year where I thought, I thought
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: their protection was pretty good last year.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Sam's been sacked 16 times. Or Sam
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: slash Locke includes a Locke in there. He was hit
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: 17 times and sacked, what, five other times against Denver.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: They've had 10 sacks given up in the last two games.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of numbers out there that
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: are just kind of ugly. I'll leave the play-calling offensive
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: coordinator stuff to guys like Hugh that have played the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: game and have sat in those meeting rooms, but I
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: do know this. I don't think that there's any way
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you can dispute the fact that you lose a guy
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like Clint Kubiak Who orchestrated the best offense in Seahawks
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: history in terms of scoring. And now he goes to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the Raiders and has started to turn that franchise around.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: The proof is right there. It doesn't matter who you
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: bring in. It's probably going to be a little bit
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of a downgrade, right? You're going to take a little
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: bit of a step back along the way.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: That is certainly what it looks like that you had,
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: you went from having a top tier play caller and
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: guy who was maybe underappreciated and people didn't realize because
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: you're absolutely right. Las Vegas has looked very good and
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: very competitive this year when there wasn't any of that
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: a year ago. And then having a guy, I similar
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: to the Kenneth Walker, sort of, uh, it's too soon
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: to make a judgment.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: I'll say the same thing about Brian Fleary.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: And I know that there are going to be the
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: knives are already kind of coming out for him, but
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: he's a really smart, like talking to people around the league, very,
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: very smart football guy. Who's very well regarded. He is
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: calling plays for the first time. And so maybe you've
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: gone to a point where he's, he's got a little
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: bit of a learning curve, but I don't get the
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: sense that he's in over his head in the way
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: that Ryan grew up less. And that's, we're six games in,
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: there's still a long way to go, and maybe it
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: will turn out to be that way, but I don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: get the sense that anybody feels like, I don't even
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: understand what we're trying to do. It's just a matter
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: that it has not worked, and the running back situation
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: probably has accentuated it in some ways.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: How desperate should they be this weekend? How desperate are
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: they for a win when you start looking at the
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: math around the NFC?
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Well, certainly if there's any, they're in a
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: really tough spot when it comes to the question of.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Can you win the division?
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Like that's, that's really your, your three games back with
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: a home loss to a San Francisco team that does
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: look pretty good. Now we'll see San Francisco has the
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: oldest roster in the league and, and things can change
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: over the course of the year.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: They need a win to feel better about themselves. I
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: think when it comes– they need a win to feel
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: better about their offense and that what– because the danger
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: that I see in this team is that you get
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: to a point where the defense feels we're stopping them
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: every week. We're doing our part of it. And we
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: really just can't get anything going on offense. And it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: so much as is going through Jackson Smith and Jigba.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: Your best player on offense is Jackson Smith and Jigba.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: And he's playing really well and being really productive.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: And the offense still looks like this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: I think the important part is them getting feeling that
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: they can compete with a.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Top level offense because the chiefs look.
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: Like the chiefs and Seattle, those past two games, have
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: just really felt bad the way that offense has looked
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: and the turnovers that have been committed. And, I mean, God,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: that last play of the first half against San Francisco
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: was about as deflating a moment as I can remember
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: seeing in that stadium.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's where you get back to the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker stuff. That's where you get back to where
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, but here's the thing. Ken Walker would
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: not have had that carry. Like that would have been
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a Charbonnet carry if he was healthy. That's what that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: would have been. So it's like, I understand it. Like
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I understand the frustration and everything, but I think that's 100%
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a play call too. And that's, it's been a weird year.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's so hard. Like people talk about this all the time,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you know, how difficult and challenging it is to go
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: back to back. And we know that firsthand here, right?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw it in 2014. It's really hard
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to go back to back. One of the reasons is
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: your schedule's tougher. The other reason is you play a
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: lot of football, right? Like you play a lot of
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: football and guys get kind of beat up along the way,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: no matter how young you are. And so it's a challenge.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the one that we kind
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of joke in this week, we haven't really talked even
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that much about Pat Mahomes. When has he ever been
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: on the back burner, Danny?
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: And the Chiefs have looked like the Chiefs. But I'll
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: be interested to see how Seattle's defense plays.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Shows up in this game because it is.
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: A primetime game and having an opportunity to go against.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: This, this defense plays with an edge. There's no doubt
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: about it. And, and kind of like wants.
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: To have that swagger and plays with that level of chippiness.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: But yeah, my homes is kind of a secondary thought.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: Which is, which is strange because it, it, he is,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: he is always front and center, especially now that he's
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: back and healthy.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: All right. Tell folks about the dang apostrophe, my friend.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: It is a newsletter originating out of New York City
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: where currently there's a toilet parked out in front of
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: our apartment. If you go to dannyoneal.com and enter your
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: email address, I won't send you the toilet, but I
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: may send you a picture with a funny essay about
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: that on Monday as well as a recap of this
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: Seahawks-Chiefs game.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, as always. Good to have you back. Stay healthy.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Sounds good. Take care of you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: That is Danny O'Neill joining us. All right, when we
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: come back, we are going to check in with Greg.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: We're going to check in with our own Greg Bell.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: He's at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. There's a lot
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of news that just came out with the Seahawks. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: was wondering why we had not seen an update on
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the injury list. McDonald just spoke a couple minutes ago. Yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: when I called Greg, he goes, I thought you'd be calling.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: It's about a half hour, 40 minutes later than normal.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: They just spoke. So we're going to check in with
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: our guy Greg Bell next, and I'll just tell you this.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: The news ain't great. Awesome. Fun times on a Friday next.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: We're back on a Friday, a football Friday, Washington state
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: beef commission football Friday, Washington state beef farmers and ranchers beef.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's what's for dinner. Uh, we'll blow off the daily
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: power play today. We've been telling you about the crack
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and they got a win last night, six 30 pregame tomorrow,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: take it on Minnesota at seven o'clock drop of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: puck here on KJR as Minnesota is in town. All right, sir.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us right now. He was just
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: over at the, he might still be at the Virginia
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Mason athletic center. Uh, So I'm just going to– you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: update us on what's going on, and I'll just preface
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it by saying it doesn't sound great over there right
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: now for Seahawks fans getting psyched up for Sunday night.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: No, Ian, this was a bad Friday for the Seahawks.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Unwelcome surprises. Nicky Maury's questionable. He came down with a
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: hip injury today. I tried to pin Mike McDonald down
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: on when it happened. I said it happened at practice.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: He said today.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: That's a walkthrough. That's a walkthrough today.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: They had something of a practice on the field. They
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: had a morning walkthrough in t-shirts on the indoor field.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: It sounds like it may have happened this morning on
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: the t-shirts and bucket hat walkthrough. But yeah, hip injury
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: this morning or this afternoon, questionable. And Zach Charbonnet is out.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: So he said there's been no setback with Charbonnet, that
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: this is part of the plan. In fact, it's going
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: great with Charbonnet's recovery and return from his reconstructive knee
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: surgery eight months ago. But This is part of the plan.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: It is, though, a departure from what the rhetoric and
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: talk had been all week about him playing at least
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: a little bit, in some capacity, as what McDonald had
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: said at the beginning of the week, if this practice
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: week went well. Now he's saying, well, the practice week
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: went well, but he's not going to play, and this
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: is all part of the plan.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I'll get back to Eamon Warren in a second. The
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet thing, that's confusing, I think, to everybody. Because, as
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you said, everything, all indications were, that he was going
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: to play. There was no setbacks there. I mean, I know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I thought, I think we all kind of figured he played,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have like a, you know, 10, 15, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: carry day, but he would be playing. I just, in
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: some capacity. Yeah. And in a game that if we're
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: being honest is a, it's not a must win, but
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it's damn close.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to, I'm trying to wrap my arms
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: around the why of this, especially if they say there's
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: no setbacks.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: It's I, I, I asked McDonald, maybe I just shouldn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: have asked him this directly because it made him say no,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: but I asked him, are you doing this to protect
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: him from himself? And what do I mean by that?
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Charbonnet needs to get on the field yesterday because his
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: contract's ending at the end of this year. He's got
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: 11 auditions and counting, now 10, to prove himself either
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: to the Seahawks or the rest of the league of
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: how much he's worth and which would seem next year.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: The Seahawks have 10 games now to decide whether they
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: want to keep Charbonnet in the second contract. We just
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: saw him let Kenneth Walker leave, and Walker wasn't coming
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: off a reconstructive knee surgery. So there's all the impetus
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: in the world for Charbonnet to get back. So I
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: asked McDonald when he said he was out today, I said, well,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: is this to protect him from himself? And that's when
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: he said, no, this is all part of the plan.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: He didn't have any setback. That's what we're going to do,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: and we'll move toward next week in Chicago. Of course,
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks have an extra day between the Sunday game
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: and the Monday night home game against the Bears, November 2nd.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: So that looks like now that's the new target for
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: the debut of Charbonnet. But the only explanation I have, Ian,
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: is that they are just trying to make this a
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: slow roll so that Charbonnet doesn't do too much too soon,
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: knowing he has urgency in his own mind to get
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: out and do everything he can when he can.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Are we going to see the same trio, or do
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you think a guy like Robert Henry Jr. gets a chance?
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Isn't it more than enough time for Robert Henry? I mean,
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: we've seen enough of everybody else. We've seen Emmanuel Wilson's
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: too slow to get to outside zone. We've seen George
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Helani as a special teams player thrust into a role
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: he's not ready for. And we've seen Velas Jones get
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: almost no chances up in the practice squad. Why haven't
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: we seen Robert Henry, who's been taking up an active
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: roster spot? And why haven't we seen him yet? And
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: I've asked that question a couple of times. And they said, no,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: he knows the game plan. And when we're ready to
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: do it, we'll do it. Henry says, yeah, I'm ready
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: to go. And he's been practicing every day since the
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: end of July in Washington's training camp in the practice squad.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: So Yeah, I do think they're going to bring up Henry,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: elevate him from the practice, or he's now still on
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: the active roster.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: What am I saying?
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going to see him finally not
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: being inactive because we've seen, and the results have been poor,
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: with the guys, they don't need to trot the same
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: dudes out there and get the same results.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's any doubt. I think at
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, why is he on the roster,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a 53-man roster, if you're going to have him for
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: three weeks and just cut him? I mean, you scouted him.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: You had him. It makes no sense. That makes no sense.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: You used up a 53-man active roster spot to sign
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: him off another team's practice squad. Now, let's play him. Yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: that's what I would do, but.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: It is strange.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: It was an unexpected turn. We talked to Charbonnet yesterday,
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: and it was that, yeah, you're going to play and
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: let's be smart and patient on Sunday night.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm excited.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: And it's Walker's here. It's, it's a national showcase game,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: the home game. And yeah, there wasn't, well, we'll see
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: next week against Chicago or I'm not so sure I'm playing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: It was none of that. So yeah, a definite surprise
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: for sure.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Before I get to break, the other thing, Eamon Warrie
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is questionable. Drew Locke is questionable. Thoughts on those two. Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: The Eamon Warrie thing, like I said, the hip injury
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: out of nowhere today, uh.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: But what does that do for their defense if he
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't play?
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Well, they're probably going to go more base. That means
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: probably more Tyree Knight, maybe three linebackers with. Well, Drake
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: Thomas has already been injured for the last two weeks,
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: so he's already going to miss his third straight game.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: I would think maybe more of that means more of
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Witherspoon outside and less nickel and dime if you're not
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: going to have Emo Warrior. I think Emo Warrior will play,
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: but When I asked McDonald what shade of questionable he was,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: he wouldn't give me that either. He just said questionable.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: And Drew Locke, I talked to Drew Locke after the
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Denver game about a couple things, and he said it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: something he's had for a little bit, going back to
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: training camp, in fact. And it could be that he
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: was just throwing more as the starting quarterback in September
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: than he was used to and ready for after not
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: doing it that much in training camp with the ones
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: every day in practice. But He threw a lot in
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: the summer as well. An elbow that he apparently has
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: had for a little bit.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate the update. We don't like the update,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: but we appreciate it. Thank you.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Anthony Bradford is going to start. It sounds like he's
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: going to play the whole game. We talked to him
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: in the locker room just now, and Donald said the
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: plan is that Bradford plays the whole game at right guard,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: so no more of Haynes and Stevens alternating. And they
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: cut Trevon Diggs, the cornerback who had been on the
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: active roster, started the season on the practice squad. They
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: cut him to make, they haven't made the corresponding move
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: of Bradford to off IR to the active 53.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yet, but that'll be the move.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Diggs, I'm sure, will probably go back to the practice
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: squad unless, I'm sure, probably.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: That's an interesting phrase.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: I think he'll go back to the practice squad unless
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: some other team wants to sign him out of nowhere,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: but it doesn't look like that'll happen. So he'll go
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: back to where, Diggs will go back to where he
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: started the season on the practice squad.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, my friend. Thanks for jumping on. I appreciate it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, 10 to 12 here on KJR every day,
• 42:11
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• 42:14
  Speaker 2: check it out. All right, we'll talk to you soon.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: That's Greg Bell. We'll take a break. We've got Rob
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Rank standing by. Coming up next.