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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, my beautiful, rare butterfly. How are you doing today?
- 0:05Speaker 2: Good. I'm so happy you're here.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Do you guys want to see something really cool?
- 0:11Speaker 2: I thought you might.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Look at that. One of you guys sent this to me.
- 0:14Speaker 1: His name is Will Smith. No, it's not that Will Smith.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Can we just take a.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Second to appreciate this? He 3D printed it and then
- 0:24Speaker 1: painted it. She's going on the shelf.
- 0:25Speaker 2: So let's do that.
- 0:30Speaker 1: There.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That's cute.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, if you guys are wondering how Will got
- 0:35Speaker 1: that to me, I have a secret.
- 0:38Speaker 2: And a bit of a secret.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Um, Caleb and I, my husband, we have been making
- 0:43Speaker 1: some videos, making videos on YouTube, um, kind of discreetly
- 0:48Speaker 1: and it's called the too late show. And we just
- 0:50Speaker 1: do whatever we want on that channel. We're just, it's,
- 0:54Speaker 1: it's a channel where we can just goof off and
- 0:56Speaker 1: just do whatever. And there's a PO box in there
- 0:59Speaker 1: and stuff. So if you guys want to send stuff and,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and we talk to you guys on the too late
- 1:03Speaker 1: show as well, uh, People call in and we chat.
- 1:06Speaker 1: It's been really fun. And we read people's messages from
- 1:10Speaker 1: Discord and everything. So go over there, do all that stuff.
- 1:12Speaker 1: If you want, if you don't, that's fine. I figured
- 1:14Speaker 1: I'd let you guys know.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Now you know.
- 1:16Speaker 1: And if you don't want to watch it, that's fine. Anyway,
- 1:18Speaker 1: we're reading Reddit today. So let's get into it. My girlfriend,
- 1:21Speaker 1: 22 female, got me a very weird birthday gift. And I,
- 1:24Speaker 1: 23 male, don't know what to make of it.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even want to guess.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Let's just get into it. Yesterday was my 23rd birthday,
- 1:40Speaker 1: and as is the usual when it comes to my birthday,
- 1:43Speaker 1: I didn't want anything big. My girlfriend simply prepared a
- 1:46Speaker 1: homemade meal, got a nice little cake from a bakery,
- 1:49Speaker 1: and we sat down and just enjoyed the evening to ourselves.
- 1:52Speaker 1: But then came the gift that she gave me.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Okay, you like birthdays like me.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Just... Hella low-key, not expecting anything.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm scared.
- 2:01Speaker 1: She gave me a little gift bag, and when I
- 2:03Speaker 1: opened it, I saw something that I didn't expect to see.
- 2:06Speaker 1: A little packet of Smucker's Grape Jelly. Okay, at least
- 2:12Speaker 1: give me some bread with it, you know, some butter,
- 2:14Speaker 1: all right? I'm talking one of those tiny little packets
- 2:17Speaker 1: that they have on the table at breakfast restaurants.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I'm familiar.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I really didn't know what to think and just gave
- 2:23Speaker 1: a weird look at my girlfriend. Her initial response was,
- 2:25Speaker 1: do you get it? Okay, I hope this is like
- 2:27Speaker 1: a really cute way of being like, we're going on
- 2:31Speaker 1: a trip and we're gonna stay at this place. place
- 2:34Speaker 1: where we got this jelly pack. I don't know. I
- 2:37Speaker 1: don't know.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I'll shut up. Let's just read.
- 2:39Speaker 1: And I honestly said that I didn't know what she
- 2:41Speaker 1: was talking about. Her expression immediately switched to angry and
- 2:44Speaker 1: she got up, walked away, and muttered under her breath, asshole,
- 2:48Speaker 1: it's his birthday.
- 2:52Speaker 2: He just doesn't get it. Just explain it, love. What
- 2:54Speaker 2: are you doing?
- 2:55Speaker 1: She locked herself in our room for the whole night
- 2:58Speaker 1: and I had to sleep in the living room. Is
- 3:03Speaker 1: your girlfriend a four year old? She still hasn't come
- 3:07Speaker 1: out except to use the bathroom. She avoided eye contact
- 3:10Speaker 1: with me, won't talk to me and refuses to let
- 3:12Speaker 1: me in our room. What did I do wrong? What's
- 3:15Speaker 1: the significance of Smucker's grape jelly? I mean, how would
- 3:17Speaker 1: we know, dude? I'm not living your life. Is this
- 3:20Speaker 1: some widely known thing that I'm unaware of?
- 3:22Speaker 2: Oh, that's fair.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Like if it's a trend thing or something, not that
- 3:25Speaker 1: I'm aware of. What does this gift mean? Someone please
- 3:28Speaker 1: help me.
- 3:28Speaker 2: What immature behavior? Is she, oh no, she's 22.
- 3:31Speaker 1: I mean, she's young, but this is like, what are
- 3:33Speaker 1: we doing?
- 3:34Speaker 2: It's his birthday.
- 3:35Speaker 1: You're ruining his birthday. Unless it's something crazy. Maybe we're
- 3:38Speaker 1: missing something where it's like, you know, I don't know.
- 3:42Speaker 1: I don't even know what it could be. I'm scared
- 3:46Speaker 1: for you a little bit because I feel like maybe
- 3:49Speaker 1: you screwed up. I don't know what you did, man.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I don't know what you did.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Luckily though, I'm just.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Skipping any comments.
- 3:55Speaker 1: I'm going right to the update because I am scared.
- 3:58Speaker 1: After reading through some of the comments and scavenging for
- 4:01Speaker 1: some type of advice to deal with this situation, I
- 4:04Speaker 1: went out and bought a new jar of peanut butter.
- 4:09Speaker 2: What?
- 4:10Speaker 1: I left it at the foot of the bedroom door,
- 4:13Speaker 1: knocked and said, there's a gift out here for you.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Do you even know why you're giving it to her?
- 4:19Speaker 1: After just a few seconds, she opened the door, saw
- 4:21Speaker 1: the peanut butter, and I walked up to her and said,
- 4:23Speaker 1: if you start talking to me again, I'll be the
- 4:26Speaker 1: peanut butter to your jelly. Nice.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Nice, dude.
- 4:32Speaker 1: She's like, that's not what it means.
- 4:35Speaker 2: She couldn't help but smile.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Sick.
- 4:37Speaker 2: After that.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And her response was, you're so dumb. While clearly trying
- 4:40Speaker 1: to fight back a laugh.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Okay, everybody. Everything's gonna be fine, oh my God.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I immediately began to ask her what her deal was
- 4:48Speaker 1: with the grape jelly. Here was her explanation. I'm guessing
- 4:51Speaker 1: that it just had a deeper meaning that we don't know.
- 4:53Speaker 1: So I feel like that's the only way I could guess,
- 4:55Speaker 1: but let's see. She said that she got that as
- 4:58Speaker 1: a gift for me to remind me of when we
- 5:00Speaker 1: first met.
- 5:01Speaker 2: She's a sentimental girl.
- 5:02Speaker 1: She's a sentimental girl, that's fine, but you can't act
- 5:05Speaker 1: like that. You could have just said that. Like, I
- 5:07Speaker 1: understand if you're a little bit upset, but it's like,
- 5:09Speaker 1: remember the first time that we met? Cute, and you'd
- 5:11Speaker 1: be like, oh, right. You're just making a mountain out
- 5:14Speaker 1: of a freaking molehill. What are we doing? We first
- 5:18Speaker 1: met back in our senior year of high school and
- 5:20Speaker 1: it was at lunchtime. She was new to our school
- 5:23Speaker 1: that year and I offered her a spot at my
- 5:24Speaker 1: table since she didn't have anywhere else to sit. The
- 5:27Speaker 1: meal I was eating at the time, a sandwich with
- 5:29Speaker 1: nothing but Smucker's grape jelly in it.
- 5:31Speaker 2: That sounds good. That sounds good.
- 5:33Speaker 1: That's her explanation for why she got me the jelly
- 5:36Speaker 1: as a gift.
- 5:37Speaker 2: She really clocked that and she was like, you know what?
- 5:40Speaker 1: Seven years from now, I'm just going to lay this.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Nuke on him and hope he gets it.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And if he doesn't, I'm going to make him pay.
- 5:48Speaker 1: That's her explanation for why she got me the jelly
- 5:51Speaker 1: as a gift. I was confused and asked her how
- 5:53Speaker 1: she expected me to remember what I was eating when
- 5:56Speaker 1: we first met. She just shrugged and said, I don't know.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I was just hoping you'd remember. Girl, be so for
- 6:01Speaker 1: real right now.
- 6:02Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I don't even know what I ate for lunch yesterday.
- 6:04Speaker 2: That's crazy. And it's not like it was a significant thing.
- 6:08Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, he spilled the grape jelly
- 6:10Speaker 1: on your shirt and there was a moment in it.
- 6:12Speaker 1: It was just like, he was just eating it. It
- 6:15Speaker 1: wasn't like you got it for him or he let
- 6:17Speaker 1: you share it or something. There's not an event. You
- 6:20Speaker 1: just noted she's just really observant, which is cool, but that's...
- 6:24Speaker 1: You're asking for a lot. I didn't know what to
- 6:26Speaker 1: say to that, so I just apologized for not remembering
- 6:29Speaker 1: and asked if she can forgive me. She said that
- 6:31Speaker 1: she does forgive me and she also apologized for behaving
- 6:34Speaker 1: so poorly when I didn't understand the gift. Okay. Okay. Okay,
- 6:37Speaker 1: we like to hear that.
- 6:38Speaker 2: That's good at least.
- 6:39Speaker 1: We've made up since then and I'm finally glad that
- 6:41Speaker 1: this whole ordeal is behind us. At least she apologized.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Hopefully she learns from that. I mean, to do that
- 6:46Speaker 1: to you on your birthday of all days and to
- 6:49Speaker 1: mope like a toddler for no good reason. Like that is,
- 6:54Speaker 1: I cannot be on her side with that. Like I
- 6:58Speaker 1: would have said, What is this for? And I mean,
- 7:01Speaker 1: that's what you did. So yeah, I know this isn't like,
- 7:04Speaker 1: am I the asshole? But you're not in this scenario.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys made up and everything. Hopefully this
- 7:09Speaker 1: isn't a reoccurring thing for you guys, but just, you know,
- 7:13Speaker 1: make note of that and see if this becomes a pattern,
- 7:15Speaker 1: if it becomes a me, me, me kind of thing.
- 7:18Speaker 2: But I don't know. You guys are young. I think
- 7:20Speaker 2: you'll figure it out. Let's see what the comments say
- 7:22Speaker 2: about it.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I mean, until you factor in that it was his
- 7:25Speaker 1: birthday and she decided to give him the silent treatment
- 7:27Speaker 1: and make it all about her. her. And this was supposed,
- 7:30Speaker 1: this was under best predator updates, like positive ending edition,
- 7:34Speaker 1: which people are just like, was this supposed to be positive?
- 7:37Speaker 1: Partner had unreasonable expectation, kicked me out during my birthday.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I had to do something good for her just so
- 7:44Speaker 1: she would talk to me. She didn't apologize. I had
- 7:46Speaker 1: to apologize instead.
- 7:47Speaker 2: I mean, she did apologize, but I understand.
- 7:49Speaker 1: It's like you had to go out and buy peanut butter, hoping,
- 7:52Speaker 1: praying that that might help the situation. This is a
- 7:55Speaker 1: positive update. The girlfriend sounds exhausting and made OP's birthday
- 7:58Speaker 1: about herself. Yeah, I don't disagree.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I'm glad that she apologized, but sounds.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Like it's a personality trait more than a mistake, but
- 8:09Speaker 1: what do I know, you know? Am I the scallywag
- 8:11Speaker 1: for having my ex arrested at my wedding? Why is
- 8:16Speaker 1: your ex at your wedding?
- 8:17Speaker 2: I feel like we already have.
- 8:18Speaker 1: The answer, but let's dive in, okay? This happened two
- 8:21Speaker 1: days ago at mine, 28, and my wife's, 39, wedding,
- 8:25Speaker 1: and a lot of people are telling me I'm in
- 8:27Speaker 1: the wrong for having my ex, 27, arrested and my
- 8:30Speaker 1: wife is saying I ruined the wedding and caused a scene.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Oh, I am salivating. Let's read this. First, a little
- 8:41Speaker 2: backstory on my ex.
- 8:42Speaker 1: We were together over five years ago for a matter
- 8:45Speaker 1: of weeks. Oh, my nail popped.
- 8:49Speaker 2: That's how excited I was. I was squeezing my fist.
- 8:52Speaker 1: My damn press-on fell off. Let me glue that back
- 8:55Speaker 1: on really quick. I broke things off because I just
- 8:58Speaker 1: wasn't into her that much. She began to pester me
- 9:01Speaker 1: over text and social media all of the time to
- 9:03Speaker 1: get back together or just hook up. This went on
- 9:06Speaker 1: for months. And in a particular week moment, I gave
- 9:09Speaker 1: in and slept with her again. At this point, things
- 9:11Speaker 1: got a lot worse. I mean, you obviously had relations
- 9:14Speaker 1: with her again, but it's like getting borderline stalker behavior.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I tried to explain that it was a mistake and
- 9:19Speaker 1: I still didn't want anything with her. From then, the
- 9:22Speaker 1: messages ranged from abusive to begging me for spicy time. Eventually,
- 9:25Speaker 1: I just blocked her. From then, she started turning up
- 9:28Speaker 1: at my house, work, and social spaces I went to often. Okay,
- 9:32Speaker 1: so this is, that's a full-blown stalker. Okay, this is scary.
- 9:36Speaker 1: She attempted to force herself on me and threatened violence.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And at that point, I got a restraining order. Since then,
- 9:41Speaker 1: I haven't heard from her in years. I met my
- 9:45Speaker 1: wife three years ago and she is honestly the best
- 9:48Speaker 1: thing in my life. We fell in love hard and
- 9:50Speaker 1: honestly have a great relationship. We got engaged after two
- 9:53Speaker 1: years and two days ago, finally had our wedding. The
- 9:55Speaker 1: day was going amazingly until a friend of mine who
- 9:58Speaker 1: I'll call Chris, great name, turned up with his plus one.
- 10:04Speaker 1: My ex. Oh my gosh, crisscross. She was playing him
- 10:09Speaker 1: because she wanted to get to you on your wedding.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I spoke to him and he had absolutely no idea
- 10:15Speaker 1: about my history with her. Yeah, because you dated her
- 10:17Speaker 1: for five seconds. And we tried to get her to leave.
- 10:21Speaker 1: After she refused, I decided to just ring the police.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Two officers showed up to arrest her for breaking her
- 10:27Speaker 1: restraining order. And she flipped out. She was shouting and screaming.
- 10:30Speaker 2: She hurled abuse at my wife.
- 10:31Speaker 1: And claimed that we were meant to be together, which
- 10:33Speaker 1: obviously distracted from my wedding. Now my wife is upset
- 10:36Speaker 1: with me for causing a scene and a lot of
- 10:38Speaker 1: friends are saying that I should have just ignored it
- 10:40Speaker 1: and focused on the day because she wasn't causing any
- 10:43Speaker 1: problems up until the police showed up. So am I
- 10:45Speaker 1: the asshole? You know what? I'm gonna go ahead and say, no,
- 10:48Speaker 1: you're not. And I don't know if the comments will
- 10:51Speaker 1: agree with me, but I don't know. Like roles reversed.
- 10:54Speaker 1: If it was the bride, the wife, and a man
- 10:57Speaker 1: came that has been actively stalking and saying awful things
- 11:03Speaker 1: to you and shows up.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Like, how scary is that? And it doesn't mean a
- 11:06Speaker 2: woman isn't capable of doing something. She could have hurt your.
- 11:09Speaker 1: future wife or your wife she could have done something
- 11:11Speaker 1: terrible because I mean this is like a catalyst for
- 11:14Speaker 1: her I'm sure I mean.
- 11:15Speaker 2: She snuck into the wedding basically.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Started dating your friend that I'm sure she looked up
- 11:19Speaker 1: was your friend like this is another level of horrifying
- 11:23Speaker 1: scary like I understand it ruined the wedding but something
- 11:26Speaker 1: worse could have happened potentially like the stalking thing you
- 11:29Speaker 1: got to take that seriously so it sucks that it
- 11:31Speaker 1: took away from your guys's day but I feel like
- 11:35Speaker 1: You just don't know what's going to happen. And you
- 11:38Speaker 1: clearly have experienced it firsthand. I mean, you said she
- 11:41Speaker 1: attempted to force herself on me and threatened me.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Violence.
- 11:44Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what she would plan to do
- 11:46Speaker 1: to somebody that you're about to spend the rest of
- 11:48Speaker 1: your life with, you know? And oh, there's an edit
- 11:50Speaker 1: to answer some questions. Yes, my wife knew I had
- 11:52Speaker 1: a restraining order against a stalker. We spoke about it
- 11:54Speaker 1: when we started to become serious. A few family members
- 11:57Speaker 1: also knew, but my friends didn't as I never.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Spoke to them about it.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Like I get it, it like ruined the day and
- 12:02Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people, that's what they'll talk
- 12:04Speaker 1: about and everything. But I mean, like again, like roles reversed.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be crazy if the husband was like, You
- 12:11Speaker 1: ruin the day by calling the police and getting him
- 12:13Speaker 1: arrested just because he threatened violence at you and all this.
- 12:16Speaker 1: It seems so obvious in that point of view for
- 12:19Speaker 1: me and probably for everyone else. But it's just as
- 12:23Speaker 1: serious in this way. I don't know why this is
- 12:25Speaker 1: making me so mad.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I don't know. You just don't know. And I think
- 12:27Speaker 2: it's better.
- 12:28Speaker 1: To make the literal scary crazy person exit the premises
- 12:34Speaker 1: so you guys can enjoy your day. I mean, I'm
- 12:36Speaker 1: sure you could not enjoy your day knowing that she's
- 12:39Speaker 1: lurking around during your wedding day. I don't know.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Am I being a little too wild on that? I
- 12:44Speaker 2: don't know.
- 12:45Speaker 1: There's an update actually.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Oh, there is an update. Oh my goodness. Okay. I
- 12:49Speaker 2: guess I won't read the comments until after I'm going
- 12:51Speaker 2: to stick.
- 12:51Speaker 1: With what I'm going to stick with how I feel. Okay.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I got a lot of requests for an update on
- 12:55Speaker 2: my original post. So here it is.
- 12:57Speaker 1: It's been a very long day since I first posted.
- 12:59Speaker 1: I have spoken to both my wife and Chris, starting
- 13:02Speaker 1: with my wife. We had a very long, tearful conversation
- 13:04Speaker 1: about everything from my ex to our wedding. I apologize
- 13:07Speaker 1: for the fact that I didn't consider involving her before.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Calling the police.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that, unless I might've missed it,
- 13:14Speaker 1: but like, yes, you should have told her. Like, been like, hey,
- 13:18Speaker 1: I feel super uncomfortable. Can I please, I don't know.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I'd say I am calling the police. I don't think
- 13:24Speaker 1: I'd ask at that point. Just to let her know,
- 13:26Speaker 1: like you're starting a marriage, you need to let your
- 13:29Speaker 1: wife know these things. Calling the police, which meant that
- 13:32Speaker 1: X's outburst when being escorted out came as a complete
- 13:35Speaker 1: surprise to her. Fair. Wife has the right to be
- 13:39Speaker 1: upset about that. Talk to your new wife.
- 13:42Speaker 2: What are we doing? She apologized for the way.
- 13:44Speaker 1: She reacted and explained that she wasn't angry at me,
- 13:47Speaker 1: but is angry at X. The fact that the wedding
- 13:49Speaker 1: was ruined and that the focus was shifted away from
- 13:51Speaker 1: us and to the X, her anger was misdirected.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Totally fair. This is good, by the way.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Good conversing on your guys' part. I mean, it should
- 13:59Speaker 1: have happened before. You should have told her at the wedding. But...
- 14:03Speaker 1: I think this is very healthy the way you guys
- 14:04Speaker 1: are handling this right now.
- 14:05Speaker 2: I'm a therapist.
- 14:06Speaker 1: I would know. Another reason for the anger is that
- 14:08Speaker 1: a lot of the guests had no idea who X was.
- 14:10Speaker 1: So X comment of we're meant to be together has
- 14:13Speaker 1: apparently led to people theorizing that I had been cheating
- 14:15Speaker 1: on my wife with my ex. So we are now
- 14:18Speaker 1: having to put our fires before rumors being, uh, Yeah,
- 14:21Speaker 1: begin to spread.
- 14:22Speaker 2: That's, oh my god, that's crazy.
- 14:23Speaker 1: My wife is now very much focused on making sure
- 14:26Speaker 1: I am okay after all of this, though. She is
- 14:28Speaker 1: still distraught about her special day being ruined, but we
- 14:31Speaker 1: will work through that together.
- 14:32Speaker 2: On to Chris. This is where things get a little scary. Oh,
- 14:36Speaker 2: I'm scared.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I'm scared.
- 14:38Speaker 2: I don't want to read it. Oh, Rita.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Me and wife called him together, firstly, to check that
- 14:44Speaker 1: he is okay.
- 14:45Speaker 2: He is.
- 14:46Speaker 1: And secondly, to see how the hell she managed to
- 14:49Speaker 1: worm her way into his life in order to get
- 14:51Speaker 1: to my wedding. Hopefully Chris isn't like.
- 14:53Speaker 2: She's the one for me. I love her so much.
- 14:55Speaker 1: According to Chris, they connected over social media. Of course,
- 14:58Speaker 1: because she was FBI-ing that shit. She started liking his
- 15:01Speaker 1: posts over the course of about a month. and then
- 15:05Speaker 1: DM'd him, and they started chatting from there. The crazy
- 15:07Speaker 1: part is that to Chris, X has a completely different name,
- 15:11Speaker 1: but the posts on her profile dated back three years,
- 15:14Speaker 1: meaning she has had this profile with a fake name
- 15:17Speaker 1: for at least three years, and it's not the only one.
- 15:20Speaker 1: You're saying that as if it's not surprising. That like
- 15:24Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Is it scary?
- 15:26Speaker 1: Yes. I mean, I personally don't, but I know pretty
- 15:29Speaker 1: regular people that just have like different.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Profiles just to like look. That's stuff. Still weird though.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Chris told us that a few other guys contacted him
- 15:38Speaker 1: after the wedding saying that they recognized her as they
- 15:41Speaker 1: had all also got DMs from her on different accounts.
- 15:45Speaker 2: All with a different name.
- 15:46Speaker 1: There is at least three other accounts that we are
- 15:49Speaker 1: currently aware of. Wow. Let's up that restraining order to
- 15:53Speaker 1: like 30 miles, okay? This is crazy. Apparently, X showed
- 15:57Speaker 1: no signs of being obsessed with me or even that
- 16:00Speaker 1: she knew who I was. He invited her as a
- 16:02Speaker 1: plus one, thinking that they might eventually get serious as
- 16:05Speaker 1: they were having a really good time together. He has
- 16:07Speaker 1: apologized profusely, but we have made it clear that we
- 16:10Speaker 1: do not.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Blame him for this. Of course not.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Poor guy didn't know.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Can you imagine being Chris?
- 16:16Speaker 1: You just, you thought you found the love of your
- 16:17Speaker 1: life and you were just being used to get to
- 16:19Speaker 1: your other friend. Oh my gosh. There has been no
- 16:22Speaker 1: word currently on what's going on with X, but considering
- 16:25Speaker 1: her breaching the restraining order and resisting arrest, we assume
- 16:28Speaker 1: she will probably end up in prison. Me and my
- 16:30Speaker 1: wife have spoken about it and if we are contacted
- 16:32Speaker 1: by the police, we will absolutely press charges and wife
- 16:35Speaker 1: will also be getting a restraining order, as she should.
- 16:38Speaker 1: For now, we are going to try and enjoy our
- 16:40Speaker 1: honeymoon and deal with the rest of this mess when
- 16:42Speaker 1: we get back. Good.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Thank you Reddit for all the advice and opinions.
- 16:46Speaker 1: You gave a lot of perspectives on the situation that
- 16:48Speaker 1: I had not considered. Wild, I'm glad everybody's safe, everybody's good,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and everybody got together and figured it out together. And
- 16:57Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna have a beautiful marriage
- 17:00Speaker 1: from the way that you worked it out and everything.
- 17:02Speaker 2: I think those are really good stepping stones.
- 17:05Speaker 1: And screw the ex, holy crap. I hope she does
- 17:08Speaker 1: go to prison. That's wild.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Ah, poor Chris. Poor Chris just wanted to get some,
- 17:13Speaker 2: you know?
- 17:13Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
- 17:14Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
- 17:15Speaker 1: He just wanted to get lucky. Let me know what
- 17:16Speaker 1: you guys think. If I went in a little too hard,
- 17:19Speaker 1: let me know, but let's read another one.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Am I the.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Scallywag for choosing my dog over my future wife?
- 17:27Speaker 2: Oh dear.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Hello, everyone.
- 17:30Speaker 1: I'm in a pretty big mental pickle and I'm reaching
- 17:33Speaker 1: out for help and no idea where to turn.
- 17:35Speaker 2: My fiancee.
- 17:38Speaker 1: And I have been living together for five years now,
- 17:40Speaker 1: proposed to her three years ago. For the most part,
- 17:43Speaker 1: living with her is easy. We get along just fine,
- 17:45Speaker 1: and we enjoy each other's company. About four years ago,
- 17:48Speaker 1: we adopted a beautiful chocolate brown husky mix, and in
- 17:51Speaker 1: the beginning, she absolutely loved her, playing, training, walking, and
- 17:55Speaker 1: taking her to the park regularly. At the time, we
- 17:57Speaker 1: had a large apartment, so space wasn't an issue. However,
- 18:00Speaker 1: I lost my job during COVID. We had to move
- 18:02Speaker 1: into a much smaller one bedroom apartment. While we managed
- 18:05Speaker 1: financially and adjusted by giving the dog more walks and
- 18:08Speaker 1: park time, my fi... I don't know why, bro, fiance.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I don't know why in my head that was a
- 18:19Speaker 1: spelling mistake. Let me say that again, the first one.
- 18:22Speaker 1: My fiance, why did I, in my head, I was like.
- 18:24Speaker 2: This guy's an idiot.
- 18:26Speaker 1: This guy spelled it wrong. My fiance started to feel overwhelmed,
- 18:30Speaker 1: especially by the dog's frequent whining for attention, which felt
- 18:33Speaker 1: much more intense in the smaller space. She felt like she.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Couldn't escape her whining.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Over the course of about a year in that apartment,
- 18:40Speaker 1: her feelings shifted from frustration to dislike and eventually to
- 18:44Speaker 1: outright hate.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Don't get a dog if you can't handle a dog.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Especially a husky. Oh my gosh.
- 18:56Speaker 1: I feel like this guy really cares about this dog
- 18:58Speaker 1: though and is doing his due diligence and he's trying
- 19:01Speaker 1: to give her a good life for him or whatever.
- 19:03Speaker 1: She stopped helping with feeding, walking, or engaging with the
- 19:06Speaker 1: dog entirely, saying she only puts up with it. It?
- 19:10Speaker 2: You hauntless wench.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Because she knows how much I love her.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Oh, so she's jealous of the dog.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Ooh. This caused a lot of arguments at first, but
- 19:19Speaker 1: eventually it took on full responsibility for the dog. Since then,
- 19:22Speaker 1: we've moved to a larger apartment in another state after
- 19:25Speaker 1: I secured a well-paying job. And now there's plenty of
- 19:28Speaker 1: space for both the dog and my fiance to have separation.
- 19:32Speaker 1: What a miserable apartment to be in. Just like juggling
- 19:36Speaker 1: your fiance being miserable for the dog and with the
- 19:40Speaker 1: dog you love and like having to hang out with
- 19:41Speaker 1: them separately. Ugh! Ugh!
- 19:43Speaker 2: This sounds terrible.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I hope this change would improve things, but her attitude
- 19:48Speaker 1: toward the dog has stayed the same, or even gotten worse.
- 19:51Speaker 2: I don't know. She just gives me bad energy. I
- 19:54Speaker 2: don't like it.
- 19:55Speaker 1: I don't like it. And she's jealous of the dog
- 19:58Speaker 1: that you love the dog. And you know, I'm not,
- 20:00Speaker 1: I'm not there. I don't know if you're actually maybe
- 20:02Speaker 1: spending more time with the.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Dog than you are with her.
- 20:05Speaker 1: I don't know all the ins and outs, but from
- 20:07Speaker 1: what it sounds like, she just like doesn't like the
- 20:09Speaker 1: presence of an animal in the home anymore, which that sucks.
- 20:13Speaker 1: A recent situation that pushed me to make this post
- 20:16Speaker 1: happened when I took a week long vacation with friends,
- 20:18Speaker 1: oh no, and left my fiance in charge of the dog.
- 20:21Speaker 2: I swear to God if she neglected this dog.
- 20:23Speaker 1: When I came back, it was obvious our dog had
- 20:25Speaker 1: been kept in her crate.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Almost constantly, except for eating or going to the bathroom.
- 20:33Speaker 2: What's her name?
- 20:33Speaker 1: Which made me furious because it felt like outright animal abuse.
- 20:40Speaker 1: It is. When I confronted her, she just repeated that
- 20:42Speaker 1: she absolutely hates the dog and.
- 20:45Speaker 2: That she needs to be rehomed. Okay, I see why
- 20:48Speaker 2: we needed to rehome this woman.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Rehome you, okay? I initially resisted the idea, but when
- 20:54Speaker 1: she pointed out that the dog would be happier with
- 20:56Speaker 1: a yard, it genuinely got to me.
- 20:58Speaker 2: She's got a point. I'm not on her side at all.
- 21:02Speaker 1: And I agreed to start looking for a new home.
- 21:04Speaker 1: I've since found someone willing to take her, but delays
- 21:06Speaker 1: have pushed back the timeline. And every time I tell
- 21:09Speaker 1: my fiance the dog will be with us another week,
- 21:12Speaker 1: she has an extreme reaction and even threatens to take
- 21:15Speaker 1: her to the pound. It's a woman so heartless. Like literally,
- 21:22Speaker 1: this woman has a heart of rock, of ash, which
- 21:27Speaker 1: leads to major fights because I'm trying to make sure
- 21:29Speaker 1: my dog ends up in a safe, loving home.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Get her out of there.
- 21:34Speaker 1: The woman, not the dog.
- 21:35Speaker 2: This takes us to today.
- 21:36Speaker 1: She was supposed to start rehoming this weekend, but the
- 21:39Speaker 1: person has been dealing with a pretty bad medical.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Issue for the past few days.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I haven't told my fiance yet because I just already
- 21:45Speaker 1: know it's going to lead to a massive fight. I
- 21:47Speaker 1: want to rehome her on my terms, but my fiance
- 21:50Speaker 1: is fed up with it. Already saying no matter what,
- 21:52Speaker 1: she leaves this weekend. Speaking with friends, they warned me
- 21:56Speaker 1: about my fiance saying, if she's doing this to your dog,
- 21:59Speaker 1: what if your future kids drive her crazy with their
- 22:01Speaker 1: crying and screaming? that's a, that's a pretty heavy leap,
- 22:05Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean, maybe she gets hella overstimulated.
- 22:10Speaker 2: I mean, she didn't at the beginning.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So it's kind of weird that it's happening now. Like
- 22:14Speaker 1: she was good for a while. I feel like it
- 22:16Speaker 1: has to do more with, I mean, I mean, maybe
- 22:18Speaker 1: I feel like there's correlation there probably with even the
- 22:21Speaker 1: potential jealousy thing with him, with the dog. It's like,
- 22:25Speaker 1: God forbid, you know, you had a little kid and
- 22:27Speaker 1: the dad loved the kid, fed the kid. And she's like,
- 22:31Speaker 1: What about me? We've been having more frequent fights as
- 22:35Speaker 1: of late and just makes me think this time, if
- 22:38Speaker 1: she doesn't understand that I'm just going to have to
- 22:40Speaker 1: choose my dog over her, I'd be losing friends, her
- 22:43Speaker 1: family that I'm on great terms with and any support
- 22:45Speaker 1: in the state I'm in as my family is in
- 22:47Speaker 1: an entirely different state.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Oh, that's so.
- 22:50Speaker 1: I feel financially I'll be fine alone, but it's the
- 22:53Speaker 1: mental cost of losing everything over my dog. However, I
- 22:57Speaker 1: do also feel that maybe I'm the asshole for considering that.
- 23:00Speaker 1: I mean, no, I mean, it's how you feel about
- 23:02Speaker 1: a person. It's how a person treats a waitress or
- 23:05Speaker 1: a waiter. It's how they treat any other person. It's
- 23:09Speaker 1: how they treat animals. It's how they respect other living
- 23:12Speaker 1: things or don't. I mean, that can be, this would
- 23:15Speaker 1: be a complete no-go for me. Like if, I mean,
- 23:18Speaker 1: I came into the relationship with Kevin and Caleb came
- 23:21Speaker 1: in with Frankie and Petey and, you know, if he
- 23:25Speaker 1: were to treat Kevin like garbage and to be overstimulated
- 23:29Speaker 1: with him when he knew what he was getting into
- 23:31Speaker 1: with all that stuff, And Kevin's a lot.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Kevin can be a lot, okay? He's a German Shepherd, Akita,
- 23:35Speaker 2: Norwegian Elkhound, Mutt, a mix of it. But he's a
- 23:38Speaker 2: sweet boy and Caleb loves him and everything. But I
- 23:40Speaker 2: would be so, I'd be like, okay, we're good. I'm done. Like,
- 23:43Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give up my son. Yes, I'm gonna
- 23:47Speaker 2: call him my son. I don't have kids yet, okay?
- 23:49Speaker 2: He's my first son.
- 23:50Speaker 1: For somebody who's unwilling to compromise and to own what
- 23:54Speaker 1: they agreed to do. Like you can't just dispose of
- 23:58Speaker 1: animals like that.
- 23:58Speaker 2: It drives me nuts.
- 23:59Speaker 1: I see so many TikToks of people getting huskies or like,
- 24:04Speaker 1: a Vichla or like a Malinois, all these dogs that
- 24:08Speaker 1: require so much work and training and exercise and everything.
- 24:11Speaker 2: And they live in like apartments.
- 24:13Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know why they're so crazy or
- 24:15Speaker 1: why they bark so much. Or like, they always want
- 24:17Speaker 1: to go outside. And then they rehome them. And I've
- 24:20Speaker 1: seen people do it like multiple times, rehome dogs all
- 24:23Speaker 1: the time. You are the problem, you know? Stop getting
- 24:25Speaker 1: an animal if you can't handle getting an animal. But
- 24:27Speaker 1: I don't know, this all just makes me upset.
- 24:29Speaker 2: I have seven dogs, dude. This, I'm not on your
- 24:31Speaker 2: side if you don't like it.
- 24:34Speaker 1: I mean, I am if you're responsible and you don't
- 24:36Speaker 1: get an animal if you don't like animals, but if
- 24:38Speaker 1: you're just getting an animal and agreeing to it and
- 24:41Speaker 1: then just like going back on what you think and
- 24:44Speaker 1: most of all, abusing an animal, like that's the biggest part.
- 24:47Speaker 1: It's okay that she just doesn't want a dog anymore,
- 24:50Speaker 1: I guess, whatever, but to abuse a living thing is so,
- 24:55Speaker 1: so disgusting and upsetting. I think that's where I'm just like, nope,
- 24:59Speaker 1: no benefit of the doubt here, sister. Like I can
- 25:01Speaker 1: understand if you're not an animal person, but I don't know.
- 25:05Speaker 2: This is really upsetting. Let me know what you guys
- 25:08Speaker 2: think of the comments.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Let's see if there's, oh no, there's no update, but
- 25:13Speaker 1: there's comments, so let's read some comments. Oh my goodness,
- 25:15Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you were going through this. If your
- 25:17Speaker 1: friends are seeing the address in your girlfriend's actions toward
- 25:20Speaker 1: the dog, then you should seriously reconsider your future. Huskies
- 25:22Speaker 1: whine and talk. Nothing will prevent that. Why is her
- 25:25Speaker 1: reaction to the whining so visceral? Yeah, that's the funniest
- 25:28Speaker 1: thing I hear about people with huskies. It's just like,
- 25:30Speaker 1: oh my God, they make so much noise. Yeah, dude,
- 25:35Speaker 1: that's all they do. That's what they do.
- 25:37Speaker 2: They run and yell.
- 25:39Speaker 1: The person I'm working with on rehoming her thinks she's
- 25:41Speaker 1: possibly getting overstimulated by the whining, which is fair.
- 25:45Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 25:46Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of dogs barking constantly.
- 25:49Speaker 2: That's why I train the dogs, crazy.
- 25:52Speaker 1: And I know you can't help it sometimes. When I
- 25:53Speaker 1: talk to my fiance about it directly, she really just
- 25:56Speaker 1: goes into details about her despising the dog and she's
- 26:00Speaker 1: never been a good fit for us. It's incredibly difficult,
- 26:02Speaker 1: especially looking back at older pictures of my fiance and
- 26:05Speaker 1: my dog smiling and enjoying each other. At times, it
- 26:07Speaker 1: is incredibly hard for me to believe it's just the
- 26:10Speaker 1: whining that caused her to hate her. In general, I
- 26:12Speaker 1: think it's just the dog being so vocal.
- 26:14Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of noise can be a lot,
- 26:16Speaker 2: you know?
- 26:17Speaker 1: And here's a little benefit of the doubt. Was she
- 26:21Speaker 1: the best fit for you guys being in an apartment? No,
- 26:25Speaker 1: definitely not. So she has a point there, but I
- 26:29Speaker 1: don't know. This is really hard. I don't think you're
- 26:31Speaker 1: the asshole based on what your fiance has done and said,
- 26:34Speaker 1: but Huskies are a very challenging breed. A lot of
- 26:37Speaker 1: people can't handle them. That said, my dog would come
- 26:39Speaker 1: before any relationship with the attitude and actions your fiance
- 26:42Speaker 1: has displayed, not the asshole.
- 26:44Speaker 2: That's how I feel. That's how I feel, for sure.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine getting rid of a pet that's
- 26:48Speaker 1: like a family member, loves you, and is dependent on you.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I can't imagine staying with such a hateful and abusive person.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Nail on the head. Can you imagine what kind of
- 26:56Speaker 1: parent she'd be? I feel like there, yeah, there probably
- 26:58Speaker 1: is correlation with that. I'm sure the therapists in the comments,
- 27:01Speaker 1: I know you're there. Is there a correlation with that?
- 27:03Speaker 2: Let me know. I hear you.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I have three dogs and one of them drives me nuts.
- 27:07Speaker 1: We got him at 14 months as a rescue, but
- 27:09Speaker 1: he's very stupid and highly strung, suspect brain damage.
- 27:12Speaker 2: He cannot be trained.
- 27:13Speaker 1: The other two are extremely well-trained and he is super
- 27:16Speaker 1: clingy and licks constantly when which aches me, but I
- 27:18Speaker 1: never ever show it. My husband and kids love him,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and I know he had a tough life before coming
- 27:23Speaker 1: to us. I find myself actually giving him more attention
- 27:26Speaker 1: because I feel guilty about not liking him as much
- 27:28Speaker 1: as the other dogs. I'd never abuse or neglect an animal,
- 27:31Speaker 1: no matter how annoying they are. This is a huge
- 27:33Speaker 1: red flag, I think. OP should reconsider a life with
- 27:36Speaker 1: this person. Yeah, again, that is the breaking point, is
- 27:38Speaker 1: the abuse and neglect. I think it's completely fine to
- 27:42Speaker 1: have multiple dogs or a dog and just kind of
- 27:46Speaker 1: grow to.
- 27:47Speaker 2: maybe not enjoyed as much.
- 27:48Speaker 1: I know a lot of moms that have kids or babies, they,
- 27:53Speaker 1: and I see this on TikTok and stuff, they, you know,
- 27:55Speaker 1: the baby takes, you know, is higher on the scale
- 28:00Speaker 1: than the dog, no shit, and they just get overstimulated
- 28:02Speaker 1: and really annoyed by their dogs, and there's a different
- 28:05Speaker 1: relationship there.
- 28:06Speaker 2: I see a lot of other moms.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Who are like, no, I love my dog just as much,
- 28:09Speaker 1: if not more, than my kids sometimes, which I feel
- 28:12Speaker 1: like I'll be on that spectrum, but I also understand
- 28:15Speaker 1: that You know, you can get overstimulated and everything, but
- 28:18Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you treat the animal like it's not
- 28:22Speaker 1: a living thing. OP said to that, oh wow, see,
- 28:25Speaker 1: I just wish she'd see it in the same way.
- 28:27Speaker 1: My dog literally only wants treats, pets, and belly rubs.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Her intention is to love unconditionally. Even when I scold her,
- 28:34Speaker 1: she still just wants a belly.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Rub right after.
- 28:36Speaker 1: With that being said, my dog's intention isn't to bother
- 28:38Speaker 1: my fiance or make her upset. She's just a fun
- 28:41Speaker 1: loving dog, but anytime she makes a mistake, such as
- 28:43Speaker 1: going inside the house, she has a bladder issue from
- 28:46Speaker 1: previous abuse before we rescued her. I've heard my fiance say,
- 28:49Speaker 1: she's doing this on purpose.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Girl, be so for real.
- 28:52Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, how has the husband
- 28:54Speaker 1: been helping with that? And then the person underneath answers,
- 28:58Speaker 1: my husband has been pretty understanding as he does get
- 29:01Speaker 1: frustrated at times too when the dog Scout just doesn't listen.
- 29:04Speaker 1: The main thing is he helps make sure Scout doesn't
- 29:06Speaker 1: lie next to me and lick.
- 29:08Speaker 2: That's the worst bit.
- 29:09Speaker 1: I think I have a sensory issue around that sound, lol.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I'm not a big, I don't like dogs licking my
- 29:13Speaker 1: face and my hands and all that kind of stuff too.
- 29:15Speaker 1: love my dogs to death, I would throw myself in
- 29:17Speaker 1: front of a train for them. But I'm not a
- 29:19Speaker 1: big fan of that either, so I understand that. And
- 29:20Speaker 1: he does the walks, and he can't be walked with
- 29:23Speaker 1: other dogs as he gets too overstimulated, so it's a
- 29:25Speaker 1: team effort. But still, I get that he was a
- 29:28Speaker 1: poor puppy that was abused, and it's not his fault.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Just like, it's not a toddler's fault that it soils
- 29:32Speaker 1: its nappy or spills their drink, and that is what
- 29:35Speaker 1: I'm concerned about with this woman.
- 29:36Speaker 2: She seems to lack any empathy.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she needs to just not have anything
- 29:42Speaker 1: that she needs to take care of. I think. And
- 29:46Speaker 1: you know, there's a whole other spectrum of this where
- 29:47Speaker 1: like a dog is deadly or bites or is dangerous.
- 29:54Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing. I understand not wanting that
- 29:56Speaker 1: around and it sucks, but. You know, your, your kids
- 30:00Speaker 1: take precedence over that or your partner or whatever. You
- 30:03Speaker 1: don't want to put anybody in danger. Not that you
- 30:05Speaker 1: shouldn't try to make it work.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It's just different on every case. So I can't really
- 30:09Speaker 1: speak to all cases, obviously. I'm sure people have cases
- 30:12Speaker 1: where they're like, no, like my dog would have had
- 30:15Speaker 1: a better life doing this.
- 30:16Speaker 2: And we rehomed it. Totally fine.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Do what's best for the dog, you know, but I
- 30:20Speaker 1: just don't get an animal. If you cannot take care
- 30:23Speaker 1: of that animal. for its whole lifespan. And then some,
- 30:26Speaker 1: if it gets sick, if something bad happens, you know,
- 30:29Speaker 1: it's just, you're, you're taking our responsibility, be responsible for
- 30:32Speaker 1: it and be empathetic and, and just, I don't know,
- 30:35Speaker 1: be human.
- 30:36Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 30:39Speaker 1: That's all we have for this one.
- 30:40Speaker 2: And I think I'm going to end it on that. No,
- 30:42Speaker 2: I just want to go hang out with my dogs.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I have a dog right here.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Ruby, can I hug you? Come here, buddy. Poppy baby. Oh.
- 30:52Speaker 1: I love Rupert so much. He's such a good boy.
- 30:55Speaker 1: You want to say bye to everybody?
- 30:56Speaker 2: No, you can't look me on the face.
- 30:59Speaker 1: You know that. Good boy.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Soak it in. Soak in Rupert.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Oh, good boy. Good boy. He's so cute, dude.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Don't do it.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you guys later.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Okay, say bye.