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VTFB: Re-Est. 2026 · Boundary Corner Podcast

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And welcome back to the Poundry Corner Podcast along with my
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tonight. How is everyone?
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Look at us. Look at us.
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I'm cold, bro. I'm cold.
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It's a it's a ice rink in my yard.
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Not a joke, not a joke. How has everybody survived?
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Because it got as South as Huntsville.
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I know it hit here in Richmond, Shelton.
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I'm not sure if you're in Richmond or back in
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Williamsburg. It hit everybody wherever we
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were sitting, but it has been extremely cold and extremely
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nasty for the last five days. Yeah, it got cold here.
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It's been gross. But tally.
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I was just saying got cold here, but I mean, we had like a little
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light dusting, but nothing, nothing compared to what I've
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been seeing and being our neighbors to the North Tennessee
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has been they got they got hit pretty good.
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So thank the Lord we didn't have no, you know, nothing that
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really impeded school and caused us caused us not to.
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I think we kind of shut down one day for work, but nothing,
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nothing for real. Sean, what about you, man?
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Are you down in Williamsburg or are you back in the RBA
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currently? Yeah, I'm back in Williamsburg,
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you know, been been travelling a lot.
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We went to a went to a place called Dunn, NC a couple weeks
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ago. I would not.
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I know about Dunn. What about Dunn?
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About Dunn. We know about Dunn.
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OK, well it's it's not a place I'd recommend to put on your
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itinerary, but. I agree with you, but I.
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Mean, I was not sad. I was not sad to leave, no
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offense. What's wrong with Dunn Man
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North? Carolina.
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He was done with Dunn. It's literally.
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Little sketch, but. Little little sketch redneck
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town low off 95 in the southern part of North Carolina.
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Sketch and redneck, two things I don't need to be a part of.
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Hey, good on good on Harnett County baby.
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Good Harley. Not a lot, man, Not a lot.
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Yeah, but I've just been, I've just been working.
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We'll start up with baseball season here pretty soon.
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Excited for college baseball to be back just like that.
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So yeah, things are things are good.
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Good deal and staying warm. I hope no power losses anything
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like that down there. No power losses.
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I feel like the the storm is maybe blown a little bit out of
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proportion, at least depending on where you live.
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I know like Tally said, simply got hit pretty hard, but you
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know, we were mostly pretty good.
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Like there wasn't one thing going on here.
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Yeah. For, for here and and down
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there, y'all, you know you're 5060 miles east of RBA.
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It was a perfect scenario, a perfect case scenario because
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the snow that came through on on Saturday night, Sunday morning
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was the dustiest snow I think I've ever seen in my life.
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Living in Virginia, usually Virginia, we get wet snow.
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It's heavy, it hangs on trees. You could throw it up.
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The kids want to make snowballs Sunday morning.
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They're trying and I'm like, y'all, it ain't, it ain't going
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to make snowballs. Like ain't no water in it.
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And then the subsequent sleeping ice.
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I mean, Brian said that my driveway is a ice rink.
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It is. It's great to sled on because
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Monday night, me and the neighbors here, we all got out
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there. We were drinking some angels
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envy and hotty toddies and sledding down the hill had the
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had the big fire pit going out front here.
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Brian man, all the boys, all the boys in the Wilds came out.
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So it was a good. Time we've this week so far,
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we've already had two kids from from wide school come over for
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sled. Do you know I mean Curtis, you
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know that I got a little nice little slope in the backyard.
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You have a good slope. It's been good sledding man.
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They've had a good time with it. I did want to throw some fun
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facts at you since you you you threw we we we got a done
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reference out here. We're talking about Harnett
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County. Raise your hand if you are a red
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link or good mythical morning fan.
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Anybody in this house if you are that's that's where they grew
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up. So fun fact, they're right in
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between Raleigh and Fayetteville there.
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So fun. Fun little.
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Fun. Little John South of Benson,
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North Carolina played by I think we did at least once a year as a
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child for you know greens down there with of course the
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operation was already on this weekend with weather I hope to
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snow and this is Randall seriously, man, I I'm done with
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it I'm done I. Anticipate at least another 3
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inches. I know.
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And but then it's going to be normal.
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It's going to get warm again and hopefully winter's freaking over
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because I'm done with it. And I'm sure Shelton, who's
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going to be doing baseball shortly, is done with it because
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I don't know how heated the press boxes are or where you
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have to be there in games. Cold baseball games are just in
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tally. You said.
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Look, he's shaking his head because he sat in a mini with
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his son. Cold baseball games suck.
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What's up man suck. It's not supposed to be played
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in the cold. No, it's not supposed to be
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played in either the hot or the nice, not the cold wheel.
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Tally our our boy Will's here and he wants to know about
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mullets and tight end play. I like mullets, man.
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I like mullets. I think we should put cowboy Cal
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collars on all of them and give them some numbers in the 90s or
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something like that. Some numbers in the 90s.
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Cowboy collars and then take their knuckles.
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Tape to knuckles then. We got then we got Robbie Bacon,
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the three inch reference here, So. 3 inches.
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Oh, man. All right, So what are we
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getting into tonight? Well, we got a few things done.
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Well, we are going to talk about the schedule.
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Don't worry. We've dissected it.
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We've made decisions. People have been texting us
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asking us what game is we going to.
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First of all, it's it's January. That them decisions ain't made
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till like summertime. What my bank account looks like.
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We're going to talk about the additions to the portal because
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we had that huge episode 2 weeks ago, but we had even more portal
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entries from tech or to tech I should say.
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Going to talk about the rounding out of the staff from tech to a
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couple guys left. Out of play.
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Oh, look. You know what, Devin Elvis went.
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Devin Elvis went to Hawaii. Yeah.
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He went to Hawaii. You.
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Know what I mean? Do what you got to do weather
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wise. You've got the right idea.
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Everything else, not so much. But.
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Yeah. And then we're going to talk
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about the rounding out of the staff as as everybody's seen
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over the last few weeks, effectively the last three guys
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were named. So we're going to just hit on
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those. But we are going to start off
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tonight that with Shelton. Shelton had not been around for
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a couple weeks. He'd been travelling.
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He spoke at his alma mater last time we were together.
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But if y'all have not read his article on the key play that he
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put out last week. Great article, great article
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and. We're going to give right there.
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Go ahead and hit that if you haven't had a chance to check it
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out yet. Yeah, check it out, Subscribe
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just for Sheldon's right, and it's well worth it.
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But we're going to give Shelton a little corner here, Give him a
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little time to talk about that article, what went into it,
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because it is really good. And it raises a lot of points
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about the state of college sports and football and college
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football specifically. Go ahead, Shelton.
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Well, thank you all. It is a free article, by the
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way, so you do not have to have a subscription to read it.
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So everyone checks it out. But it was something that, you
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know, had been on my mind for quite a bit.
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And I was, I was glad that Indiana won the title to, you
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know, vindicate my thesis. So really, I, I start with a
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referral question. Why not Virginia Tech?
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Why not us? Indiana's won a national title.
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And so the simple question we can ask is, hey, why not the
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Hokies? And I think fans of, you know,
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all, you know, programs can be actually the same thing, like if
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we have the right investment, if we have the right leaders,
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leadership, why can we not win a national title as well, at least
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compete for one, certainly. So I start off with, you know,
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the following. Look at historically, you know,
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Indiana's national title is completely unprecedented in the
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context of who they are as a program, not just in college
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football, but also in pretty much all of the major college
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sports. And we'll have a graphic up here
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in a second to show that. But First off, they're the first
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program to win the first netty since Florida in 1996.
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That's a 30 year job that the second longest drought among all
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NCAA sports. I believe there are 38
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championship sports, I'm not mistaken.
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So again, this stuff does not happen, especially in the sport
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of football, which is so, you know, dominated by, you know, a
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handful of select programs and you look at the worst ever
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championship wing programs. This is the five marquee sports,
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the five most watched sports, football, both basketball,
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baseball and softball. They get the best TV rating.
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So I looked at all the programs that have won a national title
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in those sports and sort of then by the worst win percentage you
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can see there in the end of the worst team to ever win a
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national title among all of those sports.
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So again you see the numbers there, 430 all time win
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percentage. You know typically you almost
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have to be above 500 and then the 8th percentile among all FBS
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programs. Somebody in the comments point
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out to me that I was missing ice hockey.
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Apparently UMass ice hockey team has been really bad, but they
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won national a few years ago. Sorry to any of the ice hockey
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fans out there, it was not on my radar, but next time I do it,
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I'll I'll give them a shout out. So but point being, you know,
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Indiana, it just it just does not happen where a team that is
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this bad for this long wins the national title.
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And so that's why, you know, people like myself and Bill
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Connolly does. The ratings for SP plus ESPN
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have just been mouth a gate at what the Hoosiers have
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accomplished this year because it is just so unprecedented in
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the landscape of college football.
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And so continuing on, you know, I talked about the SEC.
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We know that the SEC is not quite what it used to be.
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I think you could still argue that they might be, you know,
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the the deepest conference from top to bottom.
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But the fact is they do not have the juggernaut programs that
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they used to. The Big 10 has clearly taken
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that mantle. But even then, I don't think the
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last three national championships between, you know,
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Michigan House and Indiana have been all that dominant from a
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historical standpoint. Now, as far as the SEC goes, you
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know, people will make jokes about them.
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You know, you know, they, they used to be players.
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Now that everyone can be players, they kind of lost their
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advantage. I think it's a little bit
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overstated. I think it has more to do with
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the transfer portal, you know, because college football, we're
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creating a stroke that has been, you know, defined by geographic
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proximity to talent, the South winds because they have access
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to the best players. And once those players in the
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old days joined the program, they couldn't leave.
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We were just talking before we came on about how LM and back in
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2016 had a running back score that consisted of, I'll pull it
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up here, Damien Harris, Beau Scarborough and the third guy
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freaking his. Name.
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Scott Jacobs Yeah. So just, you know, their ability
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to stockpile talent was pretty unprecedented, and that is not
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going to happen again. So the SEC has kind of lost
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their recruiting edge, and that's given to a more of a
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window for teams like, of course, in the Big 10, but
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certainly in the ACC as well. So, you know, that's one thing.
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And then just kind of, you know, put a little bit of a cap on it,
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you know, talk about how there's always been ebbs and flows in
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the in the history of Constable, you know, errors of parody,
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errors where it's dominated by blue bloods, you know, and, and
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things kind of go back and forth.
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I think we're living in an age where there's going to be more
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parody. And so, you know, when you look
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at a guy like James Franklin, his resume at Penn State speaks
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for itself. You know, consistently turning
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out ten win seasons, won a Big 10 title at Penn State back in
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2016, Took the Nitty Lions to the semi final back in 2024
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before they lost in heartbreaking fashion.
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Notre Dame. So they were driving away from
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playing for a national title. That's the coach that is
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coaching at Virginia Tech, you know, so when I say that Virgin
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Tech is now capable of winning national championship, I don't
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want people to think that I'm saying it's easy or that it will
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happen. You know, maybe they get to the
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semi final and they lose in heartbreaking fashion and that's
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fine. That's just the way it goes
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sometimes. But the key point I want to make
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in this article on what I want to stress to the fans at home is
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now Virgin Tech has a chance. The one thing that college
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football has been missing for the past 25 years is hope, the
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belief that your team is capable of playing for something
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meaningful, capable of playing for a championship.
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That's what's been missing the sport for the past 20 or 30
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years. And so I'm so grateful for for
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Indiana, not just happy for their fans, but happy for my
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sport, mainly that every fan base in America, to varying
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degrees, now has the the internal belief that they're
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capable of winning a championship.
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And I think it's a beautiful thing.
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And I'm, I'm just very glad that the the Hoosiers won and
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certainly hopeful for for the Hokies.
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We're pretty blessed I got coming in that they could do
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some pretty good, pretty good things here.
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Us coming up here under James Franklin.
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Yeah. And it's interesting because,
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you know, this wasn't a, you know, this wasn't a product of
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the playoff, right? This wasn't a team that like
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stuck into a playoff and got hot and made a run.
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This is a team that was consistently good throughout the
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duration of the 2025 season and capped it off by winning the
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whole thing. Yeah, that's the big thing
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because that, I mean, this is Indiana we're talking about.
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It's not like, you know, oh, they snuck in because they had a
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few good wins here at the end of the season.
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And, you know, it wasn't a situation like the, you know,
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ACC potentially had where you might have a, you know, some
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team that probably didn't deserve it representing you in
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the in the playoff. Like it wasn't any of that
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scenario. They were on, on the field and
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on paper the best team in college football all year.
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And then they won it all. Yeah.
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It's, it's, that's one way to think about it.
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But Sheldon, I think you're right.
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Because what we've had really the last three years is
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different because go back year 1, Michigan, Michigan win a
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national title. Michigan hadn't won a national
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title since 1996. Sheldon was not alive yet.
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Me and Tally and Brian were causing trouble in middle
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school. Ohio State the next year and
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everybody, the Ohio State's great Ohio State won a national
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title in 11 years, right? Right.
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They hadn't won a national title since 2014.
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Indiana had never won a national title to where we're putting it
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that in Miami they played in that title game.
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The last time they played in the title game was close to 24 years
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ago. I reflect back my time as a
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youth and thinking about the early 90s, and that's when I
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cultivated my love for college football. 90 was Georgia Tech
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and Colorado. Neither had never won it. 1991
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was Washington had not won it. Skip 92, go. 93 was Florida
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State, 94 was Nebraska, 95 was Nebraska.
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Nebraska hadn't won a title since the 70s, since the 1970s.
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Twenty plus years. Did you mention that Florida in
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96 in in in. 97 was Michigan, but it had been forever for
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Michigan. Our and I think.
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What you're saying is we're back into that stretch again.
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Where? Everything seems level, and as
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we look just at the Hokies this year into what Tal you're
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probably going to talk about. Is stockpiling talents gone?
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You know why the kids want to play?
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The kids know they're going to get money from schools.
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So are you going to sit for three years behind somebody and
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you're not going to get paid? That is one thing that is going
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to happen. They might pay to get you in the
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door but after a couple years they're going to be like you're
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you're not getting 600,000 anymore where I was.
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Going to say that the big thing that like with that is that, you
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know, you got teams that used to could throw what, 50K?
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It's a kid a year and they'd they'd sit behind somebody else,
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whether back door, front door, side door, they they they'd sit
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behind someone for two or three years because they weren't
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getting that anywhere else. Now they can go and get paid
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100203100K to be a starter for this other team and not that
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5060 K that they were getting to to be a second or third Stringer
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behind another five star. Now facts, facts.
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When Shelton started reading off like he was saying he was
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reading the running back room from from Alabama.
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I think it was 2016 and I was just saying you could go look at
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their most of their positions, but definitely running back from
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like, I don't know, 2014 to 2017, something like that.
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And it was just, you know, ridiculous, the ridiculous
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amount of talent that they had and were able to stockpile in
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those rooms. And like Sheldon said, they
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won't be able to do that anymore.
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No school because nobody's going to sit and wait #1 but also
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going to not go get paid because they can go to the school down
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the road and get paid more money and probably play and, you know,
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get that feeling and get, you know, live out the dream.
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So why not us? Great, great job.
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I shall not. When I read that it was, I
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wouldn't say it's exactly what I was thinking, but once I read,
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it got me to thinking a lot about what could be and putting
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things in perspective. Seeing it on paper, it's like,
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you know, I could see if we take the right approach and do this
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thing the right way, Why? Why couldn't it be us?
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Because nobody knew who Kurt Signetti was three years ago.
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Five years ago, you know, they might have knew who he was, but
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really, who knew who he was now? Now he's won the national
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championships. Yeah.
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And you know, I mean, Curtis mentioned Michigan's title.
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Yeah, I remember a couple years ago before they won.
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And I was like, you know, think about how broken college
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football is, where a program like Michigan, who is
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objectively one of the the biggest brands in American
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sports, has not won a title in 30 years.
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And we feel like, and we we almost kind of look at them like
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this kind of plucky underdog. I think the issue with college
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football over the past couple of decades is that it became so
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regional. It was all in the South.
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It was all the SEC. And we can talk about, you know,
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the reason for that, but. But, you know, now we're seeing
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us becoming more national and, and it's about, you know, again,
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leadership, getting the right guy.
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And you still got to have the boosters, you still got to have
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the donor base. But it's, it's not defined by,
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you know, geographic proximity of talent OR having the right
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boosters or you're having the brand or the prestige or playing
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in Death Valley. It's it's not about that.
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It's just about having the right people.
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And so I think what, what I hope that we can, you know, have
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going forward is more of a meritocracy where, you know,
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again, James Franklin's kind of showing the results.
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He flipped a horrible recruiting class into a top 25 high school
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class. He's got from a top 10 to top 20
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transportal class. I haven't checked the numbers
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recently. I know they, you know, kind of
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fluctuate face on the site, but he's giving you the results.
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We've got the players, we've just got to develop them and
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keep them. And if we do that, I think the
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really, really awesome things are are capable of being
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accomplished hold. On I'm going to get it up for
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you just so you know where where they are with the transfer
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rankings. Few days ago it was pretty high.
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Oh my God, it's going. To.
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Be a pain in the ass. And I also, so while, while,
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while you're doing that, I will say one more thing.
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You know, I, I know that people look at Penn State as a, as a,
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as a very high profile program, and certainly they are.
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But I don't think the gap between Penn State and Virginia
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Tech is as deep as people think it is, or at least some people
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think it is. Certainly not the, the, the lion
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fans. You know, they're both, they're
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in some ways they're actually pretty comparable.
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I mean, they're both very small towns, not particularly near
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anything, you know, a few hours from the major metro areas.
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They both got a very football centric, passionate fan base
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that's, you know, got, you know, good money, but not elite money.
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And they've historically both played second fiddle to the top
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two programs in their conference, Michigan, Ohio
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State, and for us, Clemson and Florida State.
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So we look at it that way like I, I think it's a pretty
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comparable fit. So, so I don't think that what
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Franklin did at Penn State is, you know, like that he can't
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isn't capable of achieving that here at Virginia Tech.
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And apparently we have the better airport.
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We have the much better airport and we're closer to and actually
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a bigger airport with Roanoke Regional, what, 3540 minutes
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down the road Currently that transfer class is 6th on on
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three and I'm going to I like 247.
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I love them attaining all those guys, but I don't like their
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rankings because their rankings never account who went out.
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What Virginia Tech brought in is so much better than what they
22:20
put out. Like you got to look at Penn
22:23
State, their high end talents gone.
22:25
They brought in all those. State.
22:28
Players, which they're good football players, but nowhere
22:30
near the ceiling of the Penn State guys that Franklin brought
22:35
down and some of the other guys he brought down like a Hilson.
22:40
Because that that. I think that's tally.
22:41
That's your kind of prime point, right?
22:43
Even though he was at Missouri, Hilson was a borderline super
22:46
high 4 star, almost 5. He's not getting playing time.
22:50
So he just basically said, OK, they're going to give me money,
22:53
I'm probably going to start. I'm going there.
22:56
Well, the way you can look at these rankings is you can look
22:59
at 24/7 sports as having the basically the, the raw in
23:06
numbers, right? Like, so we're 18th nationally
23:08
in terms of just the players we're bringing in, but we are,
23:12
what would you say, 3rd, 4th, 4th?
23:14
6th. 6th OK 6th in terms of net talent in the transfer.
23:19
Net talent gained, Yeah. Guess who's number one?
23:23
Who's that? She's #1, Indiana.
23:26
Indiana, Yeah, I. Was going.
23:30
To say. Texas Tech.
23:33
But if you got great, yeah, if you got in the hot tub time
23:36
machine and you went back five years and and you seen yourself
23:44
and your buddies watching college football and you said,
23:47
hey, I'm from the future and Indiana's going to be the team
23:50
to beat in 2026, how do you think people would have looked
23:55
at you? They had a stare at you cross
23:57
eyed, and you're going to tell them they beat Penn State, they
23:59
beat Ohio State. Who else did they beat?
24:02
NDJ. They're going to beat.
24:03
Alabama, Miami, They're. Going to beat Miami.
24:06
I'm missing one. What was the other one?
24:08
And they're going to beat Oregon.
24:09
Oregon, twice. Killed Oregon.
24:11
Killed Oregon the second time by 30.
24:14
Could have been 50, but it won't.
24:16
But nobody would have believed. It but but but.
24:18
To to Shun's point, as we kind of close this up before we move
24:21
on, it's like, why not? You're, you're 100% right.
24:25
We are now in an era with Indiana winning with it looking
24:30
like you can be anything, right? You don't have to read the
24:35
traditional blue, but you don't have to be the constant solid
24:38
school. You can be anything and
24:40
potentially win the title. And to a point, we can hate them
24:45
all we want, but to the point with Miami getting there shows
24:49
you if you can just get in, have a couple, you can have a couple
24:53
Boo boos during the season, just get in.
24:59
That's all. That's all we ever wanted.
25:02
I know as a fan, they were. I still believe that 2005 team,
25:07
Sheldon, you were little but boys.
25:09
I still believe the 2005 team could have beat anybody in the
25:12
country that year, anybody in the country No 5.
25:17
I would say that I would say the O the O 9 not to get, I would
25:19
say the O nine team, they're actually more slept on, one of
25:22
the more slept on BT teams. Statistically, they were.
25:26
But the whole. Thing is we look back through
25:28
our history and you feel like for 15 years there there was
25:31
like if we could have just had a chance to play three games in a
25:33
row, right? Just give us a chance to play
25:36
three games in a row, we could probably be the anybody in the
25:38
country. So there we go Sheldon, great
25:41
article. If y'all have not checked it
25:43
out, go to the key, play John Shelton's name.
25:46
Why not? Virginia Tech?
25:48
Great article. Read up on it.
25:50
Now let's flip it over because to get to where you want to go,
25:54
you got to have a schedule. And that schedule dropped just
25:59
the other day. And I'm sure everybody's seen it
26:03
and I'm sure you've been picking it over too, but just to
26:06
highlight it real quick. Start.
26:09
September 5th versus VMI Home, then the next week Old Dominion,
26:14
then Maryland and then it's an ace.
26:15
It's a non game. ACC slate at Boston College,
26:19
Pitt at home, Cal at Cal, Georgia Tech at home, Clemson
26:24
and Clemson, SMU and Dallas, Stanford at home, Miami down in
26:29
Miami, and then finally Virginia at Lane Stadium for the
26:34
Commonwealth Cup. So I'm going to ask my crew
26:37
this. Were y'all completely shocked
26:40
that they didn't double tap us for long distance road trip
26:43
back-to-back? They like James.
26:47
I knew it was good they. Say they bring you some star
26:52
power to the ACC. We're helping.
26:54
Them, he is the darling. We're going to be the darling of
26:57
the ACC media day, so I figured they was going to show us a
27:00
little love. We just need the players to
27:02
perform now, get a little love, perform when it's time to
27:05
perform. Wrong.
27:07
Were you shot? Because the way that schedule
27:09
set up, we have 4 extremely long road trips.
27:14
This year I was very concerned. I mean it, it's one of those
27:18
things you lose a home game and you get a long road trip added
27:21
to the schedule in place of it because of the going to the 9
27:24
conference game. So automatic, You're like, all
27:27
right, they're going to they're going to fuck us some way on
27:29
this and and the way things were kind of stacked, I was like,
27:33
we're going to get at least get one of those back-to-back or
27:35
like coming off of a Thursday game into a long travel the next
27:39
week. So you have a travel Thursday
27:41
you get you get the the half by but it you still got
27:44
back-to-back long travel didn't get any of that.
27:48
I'm really pleasantly surprised. And another thing that we can
27:52
talk about too is that we've got a lot of talented, but you know,
27:58
younger kids that are coming in with this transfer portal class.
28:01
With the way that a lot of this roster on the non retention side
28:05
is stacking up, the schedule ramps up pretty slowly where
28:13
where you where you get time to gel before you really get into
28:16
the meat of the schedule. So that also bodes well for a
28:21
team where a lot of the core is going to be on the younger side.
28:25
Yeah, Sheldon, were you shocked that they didn't back-to-back
28:30
long distant road trip the Hookies this year?
28:34
No, honestly, I, I wasn't really thinking about it, honestly.
28:37
Like I'd be curious to know like if, if the schedule is like has
28:41
like some level of like, you know, computer generator
28:44
randomness or if like they're actually like picking every
28:46
game. Like I, I really don't know,
28:47
because I know that like, you know, in pro sports, typically
28:49
it's kind of like a, you know, it's like a computer that does
28:52
it. So I'd just be curious to know
28:54
that because if, if there's someone is actually like behind
28:56
the, you know, pulling the strings, you know, what kind of
28:59
biases would they have, you know, towards certain schools?
29:02
But yeah, I mean, it's honestly like, it's not, it's a pretty
29:05
solid schedule. Like, you know, you obviously
29:07
don't like having to, you know, add on SMU there because that's
29:09
going to be a tough game. But I mean, you know, yeah, Cal,
29:14
that'll be after a Friday night game.
29:16
So you got an extra day there to prepare for that one and travel.
29:18
So that's that's that's good. SMU don't know if that's going
29:22
to be Friday or Saturday, so TV there.
29:25
That's coming off the bat. Either way, that's coming off
29:28
the bat. Yeah.
29:29
So it's so. Yeah, Yeah.
29:32
So you you're to. Your point?
29:33
You've got an extra day for the Cal trip and you're going to
29:36
get, you're coming off the bat for the SMU trip, whether it's
29:39
Friday or Saturday, so you're going to have plenty of time to
29:41
prepare for it. I was shocked because I remember
29:45
what they did two years ago, remember what they did two years
29:47
ago when they sent us to Miami on a Friday night and then the
29:51
next week they sent us out to Stanford.
29:54
Like. That's that's what I fully was
29:56
expecting like you're going to go to BC and then you're going
29:58
to go to Cal the next week so screw y'all.
30:02
Even with that being said, look it up.
30:07
Tech is going to travel like the third most miles this year of
30:12
any ACC school. The other two ACC schools are
30:15
the western schools. So they are going to be on a
30:18
plane a ton, but I was a little bit shocked.
30:21
So I'm I'm I'm I'm going to be interested to see how that all
30:27
plays out. Not having things like that to
30:30
be as to just to be as you know, roadblocks for this team this
30:37
year. All right, VMI, Old Dominion,
30:42
Pitt, Georgia Tech, Stanford, Virginia, Shelton Moss.
30:48
Give me one word to describe those six home games.
30:55
Whelming, I mean, I don't know I under whelming, but whelming is
31:01
that I don't know there's a word.
31:03
I don't know that's. Why?
31:04
But I like it a lot. I'd say I'm whelmed.
31:07
I mean, I like Georgia Tech. That'll be interesting.
31:11
I got, I got some, a lot of thoughts on BMI and, you know,
31:17
Stanford man UVA like it's just, yeah, it's it's a pretty
31:20
forgettable schedule. Like, you know, it's you're,
31:22
you're not going to remember a lot of these games, you know, a
31:25
few years from now. Like I just yeah, welding is a
31:29
word. What's your take on VMI?
31:30
I know you got some part of VMI, just just wondering.
31:34
Yeah. So, yeah, for those who don't
31:35
know, I'm, I'm AVMI fan, so I, you know, add the disc number
31:38
there. I I was not a fan of playing the
31:41
game just because I think, you know, first of all, it'd be a
31:43
loss for VMI, obviously, but also, like, you know, it's going
31:47
to be a really, really uncompetitive matchup.
31:48
Even an average FCS team will be able to challenge Vt more than
31:51
VMI will. I mean, this is going to be a
31:53
111 team that's going to be losing pretty much all of its
31:56
best players from last year, New coaching staff coming from AD 2
31:59
school. Remember that VMI can't really
32:01
get transfers at all. Hardly.
32:04
So yeah, it's, it's going to be a bloodbath.
32:06
And I just, I just don't think a game like that does anything for
32:08
VTi Know they want to start the Franklin Air with a win.
32:11
I think relative to the value of keeping the GMU game.
32:15
I just, I just disagree with I, I understand their, their
32:17
thought process of like, you know, let's get a get an easy
32:20
win, kind of get the ball rolling here.
32:21
I just, I just prefer that that that game not be played.
32:24
I know there's some tradition there, but that's my that's my
32:26
opinion. Hey, it is a tradition.
32:28
That's why Skipper was made. Tally one word for that home
32:32
slate. Dubs OK wins that's.
32:37
What we going to get, that's what we need.
32:40
So that's part of whelming is AW, you know, it's it is part of
32:45
that. Yeah.
32:48
Brian. Before I give mine, I'm going to
32:51
give, I'm going to give a little props to Sheldon for
32:53
inadvertently quoting Gabrielle Union from 10 Things I Hate
32:57
About You. So bravo.
33:00
I didn't know that me. Neither.
33:03
That's what I'm saying. That's why I said this was
33:04
inadvertent. I was absolutely certain that
33:06
was inadvertent lackluster, but I think that might be a good
33:12
thing. When you look at what we got
33:16
here, you know, to Tally's point, you know, Pitt's probably
33:20
going to be the toughest home game.
33:22
If you know, just looking at what they were able to do last
33:26
year, kind of some of the things that have happened on Georgia
33:29
Tech's front, from an overall staff and roster standpoint,
33:34
Pitt's probably going to be the best team we play at home.
33:38
That's not knocking Virginia. I'm just not going to give them
33:41
props until they show me they can do it more than one fucking
33:43
year. So there we go.
33:46
All right. What I'll say is affordable
33:56
because if you want to get to some home games in the first
33:58
year, James Franklin, it's not that slate where people are
34:01
going to go nuts. So selling the tickets, if that
34:05
Clemson game was that BT this year at Tech this year, buckle
34:12
up because that thing would go through the roof.
34:14
And as you get the FS us and if the Miami was a home game this
34:17
year and we did anything of the sort, you wouldn't be able to
34:21
get it. So for everybody out there, I'm
34:23
I'm being very cost conscious. It's affordable.
34:25
If you want to go see James Franklin in his first year at
34:29
Lane Stadium, I don't think you're going to have to pay
34:31
through your nose. You'll have to pay a good price,
34:33
but not through your nose like it could be.
34:37
All right. Shout out to Shout out to Curtis
34:40
for standing up for the working class.
34:41
I appreciate that, Curtis. Standing up for the working
34:46
class, you know. What directing that towards me
34:48
We. We, we, we might all be able to
34:50
go to a game again at the same time.
34:53
Going to schedule. Maybe.
34:55
Maybe. Maybe.
34:57
All right, so look at the schedule and just kind of glance
35:01
through it boys. As y'all are looking through it,
35:05
what game? And I'll start this one with
35:07
tally. What game with where it's at on
35:11
the schedule. Do you just fucking hate?
35:12
Just like why is that got to be right there?
35:18
It's not so much of where it is, but how it is.
35:23
The SMU game, just because I was thinking about going to Dallas,
35:28
but then they hit me with that flex bullshit and it's like it's
35:33
going to be expensive for me to go to Dallas anyway, right, Yes.
35:37
I don't know if I need to be going to be there for a Friday
35:40
or Saturday. Just give me a date, man.
35:44
So that game is very. Personal with tally.
35:47
That game was that game was, yeah, it was.
35:50
It was next. Before it even started.
35:53
I was like, oh, I'm done. I can't do that flex stuff, you
35:56
know what I'm saying? I need it to be a certain date.
35:58
But yeah, probably that probably that game was the one I looked
36:02
at and it kind of threw me off a little bit just because of that.
36:06
Not saying I I carefully play on a Friday or Saturday, but it's
36:10
just like I needed it to be a definite one for that one.
36:14
Because when I looked at the schedule or hurt, you know,
36:17
seeing who we were playing, it was like that was probably the
36:21
place that I wanted to visit the most.
36:24
Trying to get to a home game and an away game this year and
36:30
that's not it. Brian.
36:36
Which one am I most excited about?
36:37
Which? One I'm no, no, no, no, no, no
36:40
Halley's mad about the way that game is scheduled because he
36:43
can't make fucking planes What game and where it's scheduled.
36:47
Do you hate? This was not.
36:48
He's not hating about anything for the team.
36:50
He just hates. He wants to go to Dallas to the
36:52
game and they didn't screwed him.
36:54
It's very personal with tally. It's not even a very.
36:56
Personal. I get that.
36:57
I get that. It ain't got to be about.
36:59
The team, it can be about personal, it can be about the
37:03
team, but what game with where it's scheduled do you hate?
37:10
I'm not a big fan of having Miami and Virginia back-to-back.
37:19
You, you know you're going to be you're going to be up, you're
37:21
going to be high for for that Miami game.
37:24
It's on the road win or lose that there's going to be a lot
37:27
of motions, there's going to be a lot of lot of effort expelled
37:31
in that match up. I know you get a bonus day
37:35
between the game that you wouldn't get otherwise, but
37:38
having those two rivalry games back-to-back, that, that's a
37:44
whole lot of juice to use in two weeks.
37:48
Shelton what game with where it is on the schedule do you
37:52
absolutely hate? Well, well, well, yeah.
38:01
I'd I'd probably I'd probably go well.
38:07
Nice. I mean, I guess, I guess Clemson
38:10
SMU back-to-back, that's going to be pretty tough, you know, to
38:13
like, granted, we don't know how Clem, how good Clemson's going
38:16
to be or you know, a lot of other teams, frankly, for, you
38:18
know, for that matter, just with, you know, the the
38:20
volatility year to year. But assuming that Clemson's got
38:23
a solid team, which I think they probably will, you know, playing
38:26
them on the road and then having to go back potentially on a
38:28
Friday night. So again, potentially short
38:30
rest. No, no, no.
38:31
It's not short rest. Oh, that's.
38:34
Right, that's about it. I'm.
38:37
Having. To change, but I'm going to
38:40
change. My answer, so I got I got to, I
38:42
got to change my answer. I mean, honestly, like Curtis,
38:43
like it's not I really don't have an issue too much with the
38:47
structural schedule. Like I, I think, I think it's
38:49
pretty, I think it's pretty favorable.
38:51
But I think it's the VMI game because he.
38:52
Didn't want to play the VMI game.
38:54
There you go. He already, he already protested
38:56
his hate for that. But I think Shelton, Shelton,
38:58
you're right. Like it's not too much that you
39:01
could say about the schedule where it's like it's stacking
39:04
back-to-back or anything like that.
39:05
I will say this, I don't like where the SMU game is.
39:10
I would, after playing Clemson, regardless of the result of that
39:14
game, I would want to be right out there because if they go
39:17
down to Death Valley and win, it's the role of it's the wave
39:21
of emotions, right? But if they lose and it's a
39:24
tight game, you also get right back on the field.
39:26
Like you just played with the team you know has a lot of
39:29
talent. The next team you play will not
39:31
have enough talent. You should be able to beat them
39:33
instead. What if there is momentum going
39:36
after that game? It's going to effectively be
39:38
killed by Halloween. It's going to put my hands up.
39:41
So I don't like the way that scheduled.
39:43
I'd rather have fucking Stanford after Clemson if there's a
39:46
break. So that's where I am.
39:49
You don't get to ride the highs and you don't get to be.
39:52
If you get right back. On the border.
39:55
Yeah, exactly. 1000% Ron. All right.
39:58
Last one here, we always talk about stretches of the season.
40:04
What is y'all feel the toughest 3 game stretch whether there's a
40:07
break in between or not for this team?
40:10
Bronzey Gala. Toughest 3 game stretch three
40:18
games. I'm going to have to go that
40:21
Georgia Tech through SMU regardless of the the bye
40:24
weekend there. I know I, I, I caveat it earlier
40:28
that Georgia Tech probably isn't going to be the team we saw this
40:31
year in 2026. They're still going to be a
40:34
solid team. They have a very good head
40:35
coach. I think they're going to be
40:38
every bit of a, you know, upper tier ACC opponent this year.
40:44
I just don't think they're quite going to have the singular
40:48
talent of at the quarterback position and I don't think
40:51
they're quite going to be as deep as they've been these last
40:54
couple years across the board. So you got them, you know,
40:58
Clemson's going to at least have a, again, another, yeah, top
41:02
three, top four ACC team heading into 2026.
41:07
And SMU is probably going to be right there as well.
41:09
So you're talking about at least the top, you know, 5 or 6 ACC
41:14
opponent followed by two top four top five ACC opponents.
41:18
So. Plus since using the portal for
41:20
once they got they got double digit players out of the portal
41:24
this year. You know how bad double is right
41:27
now? Double I.
41:29
Have to adapt. I can't, I can't launder players
41:32
through my my church. Have y'all been seeing?
41:35
Have y'all been seeing and talk about the older you know what
41:38
the Ole Miss? Oh yeah.
41:40
He been mad. I'm talking about went down a a
41:45
daily routine of what was going on at 4:15.
41:49
He went to class at 416. He used the bathroom while he
41:53
got a text message. He he about to shut this thing
41:58
down by itself. He ain't playing it.
42:01
He ain't playing with that tampering stuff.
42:08
Sheldon, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go next.
42:11
What? What's the toughest 3 game
42:13
stretch? I'd probably say, honestly, I
42:20
might go Cal George Deck Clemson just because again, like, you
42:26
know, Cal again, they may not be great, but it's if you're taking
42:29
a 5 hour flight, you know, it's, it's, you know, potentially if
42:34
it's a night game, you got the PAC 12 after dark vibes, you
42:37
know, spooky things can happen. Those are always just very weird
42:40
vibes games that you know, can can, you know, kind of catch you
42:43
off guard. The Georgia Tech, I know they
42:46
lost a lot from last year, but you know, they, they still got a
42:48
good coach, you know, and again, like I said, Clemson, we we
42:52
haven't beaten Clemson since what, 2007 I think.
42:55
That's crazy. Yeah.
42:57
So, you know, and maybe maybe they have a bounce back here.
43:00
Like I just, you know, that that step of stretch, especially
43:03
mid-october where where you're kind of, you know, testing your
43:05
depth chart because I don't think, you know, we don't know
43:07
if the Hoagies love a particularly deep team this
43:09
year. That's where you kind of really
43:11
sort of see what she was made of.
43:13
And and I think that's the kind of spot where, you know,
43:15
typically some past tech teams have kind of, you know, wilted
43:17
away. So we'll see how all plays out.
43:19
But that's one stretch where, you know, I'd be be a little bit
43:22
concerned. That that's the stretch too,
43:25
Sheldon, to your point, like if you, you know, I could look at
43:29
this schedule the way it's stacking up and you can see
43:32
potentially if things go the way you want them to, Virginia Tech
43:35
going into Clemson with an unblemished record or you can
43:39
see them going in there with two or three losses.
43:42
It really just kind of depends on how that that second stretch
43:45
runs. So as to your point, that's a
43:46
really important stretch for them, especially as those
43:48
injuries set in all. Right Tyler, what about you?
43:52
Toughest 3 game stretch? I would have said the first
43:56
three games, but Shell just told me all the reasons why Vietnam
44:00
is is is not going to be any kind of threat.
44:04
You still have to show you still have to show a certain style of
44:09
win in that game when we play them.
44:11
But I'll say ODU, Maryland and Boston College.
44:15
And the reason I say those games is because if you don't get off,
44:19
if you don't have the foundation set for what people supposed to
44:23
expect from Virginia Tech and James Franklin, things are going
44:28
to look a lot different for the rest of the year because we know
44:30
how the fan base will turn on you.
44:32
You know what I'm saying? They don't care about them high
44:36
profile coach. They don't care about stars or
44:40
none of that stuff. They keep people want to see
44:43
wins. And then I'm talking about
44:44
people who are paying. So it's OK to roll out a great,
44:49
you know, a great plan and hey, let's raise money to do this and
44:53
let's do that. But if we go out and we don't
44:56
win these games, those first three games, you got ODU.
44:59
Who is Ricky? Ricky Ryan has shown, has shown
45:03
that he can coach. I've never known anybody on his
45:06
teams, but they always find a way to kick our ass or, you
45:11
know, make it a game. So I'm sure he's going to put a
45:14
team together that is going to be, you know, somewhat
45:18
competitive, which is who we're going to be fighting with for
45:22
recruits, you know, in that area and the last time we played.
45:27
Maryland, we remember. What that looked like, you know,
45:30
nobody cares who played and who didn't play.
45:32
They just remember what the score was.
45:35
And then you go up to Boston College.
45:37
You know, we never know. We never know what.
45:40
We get when. We go up there so those three
45:42
games, because you should be 1 and O going into those three
45:47
games. And then it comes down to
45:51
finding out what kind of team we really have because if we can,
45:56
we got a lot of unknowns. I know we're going to get a
45:58
little bit into the different rooms and things like.
46:01
That but. In my opinion, everything's
46:04
unknown with this team. Everything is is is brand new.
46:08
There's a lot of potential with minimal production, so that's
46:14
what we need to. See what we have and.
46:16
Then that'll tell me what we going to do against.
46:19
Clemson or what we're. Going to do against Miami and
46:23
later on in the year, but we got to start off on the right foot.
46:27
So those three games. You, you, you.
46:30
Kind of stole my answer because I do think.
46:33
It's the first three games because how they fire out and I
46:36
know Shelton, you've already said VMI is not a good team.
46:41
Cover your. Ear Shelton.
46:43
I want to see him hang 60. I want it to be a bloodbath.
46:47
I want it to be crush of soul and then the next two games same
46:51
way. Because that's the momentum,
46:54
right? Regardless who you're playing
46:56
those first three games, if they go out and just knock the crap
46:59
out of those three teams. And you're.
47:01
Three and O going into Boston College, first ACC game, they're
47:06
going to come up on game day and it's going to be like Genie
47:10
Texter. You know, I'm not the Boston
47:12
College place where they have problems.
47:13
You're going to start getting mentions.
47:16
You, you, you, you kill. BMI but then.
47:19
Struggling those next two but get wins is this same old crap.
47:23
They can't they. They get to a different team.
47:25
So I think the first 3 because you want to come out guns
47:28
blazing, guns blazing and putting people on notice when I
47:32
say James Franklin, Ricky Ronnie's boy, right?
47:35
He coached with him. James, if we are 4210, you got
47:39
to try to get 50 on his ass that last quarter.
47:42
Yeah, somebody was. I was talking with somebody.
47:45
I can't remember who was maybe Quest and they was like, I don't
47:48
think that they're going to try to, you know, if we get up on
47:51
ODUI don't think they're going to try to run the score up.
47:53
I said Ricky got prop fired, came in his house drunk all of
48:01
his Kool-aid, kicked over the BBQ grill and then told.
48:07
Him, he wasn't paying his rent. And they come and escorted him
48:10
out. So I don't think it's a world
48:13
where if we're if we up on ODU that they're going to be like
48:16
how we need to rein back now. Pretty sure they're going to
48:19
want to kick their ass. I know Brian is.
48:21
So I think with what what my boy say on remember the Titans, you
48:27
blitz all night, blitz all. No doubt, leave no doubt.
48:34
So there's a schedule, you know, and just our quick takes on, you
48:39
know, some of the the pieces of how we feel and all that fun
48:42
stuff because it is a long time away now.
48:47
Let's just hit a couple real quick things.
48:49
Before we get to talking to the portal and then the coaches, but
48:54
you know, I saw it announced a little earlier this week, the
48:57
ACC title game is no longer going to be a night game.
49:01
So Tally got to remember. That now it's not a night game
49:05
anymore. So you cannot drive the day of
49:09
from Huntsville to Charlotte because we know that's a
49:11
legitimate Dr. you can make in a day.
49:14
You can't do that no more. But what do y'all think of it?
49:17
Like this is the way I remember the ACC, Brian, me and you
49:21
sitting in my college apartment hanging, slinging bears at noon
49:25
and 1:00, getting drunk, watching the ACC title game.
49:29
Include Miami the first year because that was a 12:00 game
49:31
and we'd be dimped for the ACC title.
49:33
What did you think of it? I think it's a solid.
49:37
Move. I think having a a, a solo a a a
49:41
prime spot in the slate for those championship games is a
49:48
good showcase for the conference.
49:50
I think that's a better showcase for the conference than sharing
49:54
a prime time spot. You know, I think a lot of.
50:00
It's going to depend on what what?
50:02
What the ACC does with it, whether they continue to
50:04
capitalize off what Miami was able to do this year and as to
50:09
whether, you know, that really matters long term.
50:13
But it's nice to see you getting a.
50:18
Slot that I think makes. Sense for the ACC and you're not
50:21
competing against the Big 10 or the SEC for those eyes and you
50:26
can kind of marquee the teams that have done well in your
50:29
conference for the year, especially after, like I said,
50:31
what we saw with Miami this year talking about not competing.
50:35
And. Getting those eyes too.
50:37
What you think about the potential of three Friday games?
50:43
Are we a high school Are. We a high school team.
50:46
Or are we just trying to get eyes?
50:48
Can. I get eyes because.
50:50
That those Friday games, even the ones when we're not playing
50:53
good teams, it's still upper, upper 1,000,000, close to two.
50:58
That Friday, that Friday game against Miami two years ago was
51:02
the third highest watch game all week.
51:05
All week. Like the only two games.
51:07
It was like Georgia. And I.
51:08
Want to say Georgia and Bama were like that next Saturday and
51:12
then a Big 10 game was it? I'm I'm fine with Friday games.
51:16
I also. Like it too that if they play it
51:19
right and you get a Friday game before like effectively a big
51:23
game, you get that one extra day of rest and prep.
51:26
So I'm I like it. Let me throw this out there is
51:29
Friday the new? Thursday with the NFL having the
51:32
Thursday night slot games now, yes, we're all shaking out here.
51:36
That's freaking lutely. Sheldon, what about you do?
51:39
You like? The move to make it easier for
51:42
you. Harder.
51:43
For you, I do not care at all. All I care about is is 2 things,
51:47
one that is from Charlotte so I can eventually go to it, and two
51:50
that we're fucking playing in it.
51:52
That's all I care about. There we go, they can play at.
51:55
Nine in the. Morning, if we there, I'm going
51:56
to. Be there, put my shirt off, my
51:59
areola's painted. Areola's painted.
52:05
There we go. All.
52:07
Right, let's let's talk about the portal before we get into
52:10
the new additions to the portal. Kamara and Morgan, the edge it
52:15
was coming out from Baylor unfortunately could not meet
52:19
admissions. Therefore believe that's the
52:22
story, right, He could meet admissions.
52:24
Well, I want to say that's the case because he has.
52:26
Not committed anywhere. Else there was a credit
52:28
conflict. Well, it makes me question.
52:31
What? What does Baylor give their
52:35
incoming? Freshman.
52:36
Football players the first year because if my kids going.
52:40
To Baylor, and he's a good. Player and he might play good or
52:44
get isolated on him for the second year.
52:46
Better put him on some plastidetal transfer.
52:50
That's a weed. Let's.
52:52
Get weed, ain't nobody. They wanted to hold up for
52:55
Kyron. Drones so yeah, but Kyron had
52:58
been there 2. Years.
52:59
Remember that. Kyron had been there two years.
53:01
I'll give you. You've got to at least.
53:03
Take like Econ. 100 by that point in time, but it's it's a.
53:09
Loss right it. Sucks because that kid.
53:11
Looks like a beast in every shape.
53:14
And form so. Yeah, I, I, I was, I got.
53:18
We said it last time he was on there.
53:19
I think the very next day is when the the news came out like
53:24
he, he was the guy I was most pumped about on from the
53:26
transfer port on the defensive side.
53:28
Now we'll say we're we'll talk about a second the ultimate
53:31
pivot that we got off that is about as good as I could have
53:33
hoped for. Not a lot, not a lot.
53:36
Tally. Sheldon, Sheldon, I know you
53:38
have not been as deep in the recruiting world, but so if, if,
53:42
if you need to abstain, you may abstain.
53:44
Tally any field before we get into.
53:47
These the the. Guys who are here in class
53:51
running and pushing weights. I try not to get too hype about
53:57
it. You know, right now I need, I
53:59
need us to, you know, I need to see who really going to be.
54:03
Here before I get too. High, but I was bummed whenever
54:08
whenever we lost the the the bail of the and I was I was
54:11
pretty bummed about that. But like Brian said, the pivot
54:13
was kind of cool and it was quick too.
54:16
You know what I'm saying? It was like we didn't wait a
54:18
long time. OK, James, I see you got a
54:20
little juice. I like it.
54:22
They said James on the sleeping about 3-4 hours a night.
54:25
So hey man, I. Get it?
54:28
I need you to. Stay happy though man.
54:30
Take your wife out, call Cheetah and see what he did a little
54:33
bit. Don't be just like him but you
54:36
know still go out every nine. Then enjoy your wife.
54:40
But James has been working, he said.
54:42
He ain't got no hobbies. All he doing is working
54:46
football. All right, I'm going to put 2.
54:48
Things in the chat so y'all can shuffle.
54:51
First of all, this is clearly. What Kamara Morgan was.
54:55
Taking at Baylor. And then you know what?
55:01
Last month. Got a strategy here?
55:02
You got a kid that you definitely want to keep.
55:06
Don't let them play. Put them in classes.
55:10
You know what? 15.
55:11
What 15 classes that tech doesn't transfer these?
55:14
That's what you took in the first year?
55:15
Shout out Laszlo. Shout out Laszlo Shelton
55:18
Shelton. Has to go here in a second, but
55:20
Shelton just you know, give me your just quick overall take
55:24
because the the portal is officially well it's if we're
55:28
not done, it might be 1. Guy at it, but that's not
55:30
looking. Like a Gale, but just you've.
55:33
I know you've been. Busy but just following it.
55:36
What's your overall take on it? Yeah.
55:39
So my overall take is. Really just from a?
55:41
A roster construction standpoint, the one thing that I
55:43
really like that that Franklin did is, you know, stock up on
55:46
some some younger guys, guys have multiple years of
55:48
eligibility and we see lots of freshmen retro freshmen
55:50
software's in there. So I think that's a really good,
55:52
you know, kind of long term development move.
55:54
Obviously, you know, Franklin's talked a lot about, you know,
55:56
still wanting to be a developmental partner.
55:58
I think the the mistake a lot of, you know, coaches and this
56:01
is true for all sports. I've heard some coaches say this
56:03
is that, you know, they, they very much over line the portal
56:07
And so they take a bunch of guys that, you know, are older and
56:10
more experienced, but you know, they they've kind of hit their
56:12
ceiling. And when those guys leave, if
56:14
they don't have, you know, more than, you know, one or two years
56:17
of eligibility, you've got to replace those holes the next
56:20
year or the year after that. And so if you take guys that you
56:22
know, one, are, are talented enough, but also, you know, can
56:25
be the program for multiple seasons, ideally two or three,
56:28
you're able to, you know, I guess more effectively a rebuild
56:32
because you don't have to you don't have to constantly be
56:34
replacing those holes. So I like what Franklin's done
56:37
so far. Obviously he got, you know,
56:38
grunk at quarterback, Quayshawn Brown from Duke, the wide
56:41
receiver. I really like him.
56:42
I I'm very happy with that pick up.
56:44
I think he's going to be a stud And, you know, overall they can
56:47
do a little bit more on the lines, but but I think, you
56:50
know, just kind of, you know, overall, it's really just to,
56:52
you know, stock up on talent, you know, kind of get the the
56:55
baseline level of talent up to where you know, it needs to be
56:58
competitive in the ACC. And then hopefully after that in
57:00
the years following, and that's when you really start to, you
57:02
know, kind of get the guys you want from high school, develop
57:04
them and then they'll be rolling here.
57:06
But as a as a transitional class, I really I really really
57:09
like the the portable editions. I can't hear you, Curtis.
57:14
And he's back. I, I will, I will, I will, I
57:18
will jump in here. While Curtis is getting his his
57:20
mic straightened up, I like what we're doing from the portal from
57:25
Sheldon to your point, because we're basically re resetting the
57:29
24 and 25 recruiting classes to the James Franklin level 26
57:35
class that we saw come in being a top 25 class for just from an
57:40
overall talent standpoint from what they were coming out of
57:43
high school. Now, when we we look at what
57:46
that means long term, you know, shell them to your point, it
57:51
means that you don't have to go and get a bunch of headhunters
57:56
every year and get into this churn of needing, needing a
57:59
quarterback every year from the portal, needing a left tackle
58:04
every year from the portal. You don't get into this point
58:07
where you're having to reset the same positions, the key
58:10
positions on your roster every single year.
58:13
You got a foundation that you can build on for two or three
58:16
years now. You can get your high school
58:19
recruiting in line, start back filling those positions, and
58:22
eventually you get to a point where you're only having to kind
58:25
of plug in a couple holes here and there from the attrition
58:28
that you have from your roster going into the transfer portal.
58:31
Yeah, man. I mean roster.
58:32
Management, it's a big deal like.
58:34
I I think you know, we know fuente struggle with it.
58:36
I think Pry, you know, pride talked to me again about high
58:39
school development for the first couple of years, but it seemed
58:41
like that last year he kind of really over over pivoted towards
58:44
a portal like bringing in 30 new guys.
58:45
It just didn't work out. So I think Franklin to kind of,
58:48
you know, this will be the last thing I say before I head out is
58:51
I think Franklin's taken the really a good approach of long
58:54
term focus. But we're going to upgrade our
58:56
account level to where it's competent in the ACC.
58:59
And so, like Brian said, just plug holes where we need him
59:01
going forward. But for a, for a transitional
59:03
class, we, you know, as a baseline, I think, I think they
59:07
made some really additions perfect.
59:09
Well, Sean, we know you got to be.
59:10
Up early in the morning. Man, could get you jumping on
59:12
for the hour that you could. Again, check out the article at
59:15
the Key play written by Shelton. Why not Virginia Tech?
59:19
We'll see you soon man. Take care.
59:20
God bless you guys. Thank you all.
59:24
Right, let's. Talk about.
59:25
This because. Brian, you made it point.
59:30
I don't know if Gronk's doing it.
59:31
I'm on. Right now.
59:32
I do not want Gronk to be interviewing with anyone.
59:36
Then go find what? The offense is go.
59:39
Win and then come talk to us next year.
59:42
I mean, I, I'd say he, yeah. And.
59:44
If if we're giving interviews before the spring, that's
59:47
probably a problem, that is a serious problem, all right.
59:51
Let's go. Let's go talk about the four
59:53
guys that we did not get to talk about last week and where we
59:56
staying with them. And instead of going 1 by 1 by
1:00:00
1. And let's just talk all four
1:00:02
guys at the same time. Let's talk about Brian.
1:00:05
You, you mentioned this guy already, Sam Okanalola, the the
1:00:08
edge from by a pit by Colorado. Justin Terry, not Curtis Terry,
1:00:16
Justin Terry. Finally, you got it right,
1:00:18
Curtis. The offensive tackle.
1:00:22
The offensive tackle out of Ohio State.
1:00:26
Then this one came out of nowhere.
1:00:29
Curtis Jones. Curtis Jones from West Virginia,
1:00:33
the kid who did everything. He played linebacker, he played
1:00:36
edge, he played running back at the end.
1:00:39
But he saw Rich Rod was bringing like 60 guys in and he was like
1:00:42
this motherfucking stupid. I'll get out of here real quick.
1:00:45
And then, finally, the last Penn State.
1:00:48
Guy. Toser, Denmark.
1:00:50
So Tally, we'll kick it to you because Brian kind of already
1:00:55
buried it. Which one you most excited?
1:00:58
About are those 4. Probably Terry just.
1:01:02
Because I mean, we heard about his name early, early in the
1:01:06
portal process, and that's all we need the most help at.
1:01:12
I think it was Chris, I think. I'm pretty sure it was.
1:01:15
Chris Lester that was talking about by May of this year we
1:01:20
would have been done brought in 18 O lineman, which is crazy
1:01:26
compared to I think we hadn't brought in 18 O lineman from O 5
1:01:31
to 2025 we have. Been very scarce on.
1:01:38
Recruiting lineman SO and especially at a high level.
1:01:43
Like lineman. Didn't play at a high level, so
1:01:46
we don't know who's going to pan out.
1:01:48
Of course, that's why you pull people in and.
1:01:51
And hope people develop to. Get better, but we have a lot of
1:01:54
people that have the opportunity to show what they can do when
1:01:59
you bring in, you know, 18 offensive lineman.
1:02:01
So we need it. So I'm probably more most
1:02:04
excited about him. Bet you Bron.
1:02:08
Sammy Sachs man, Sammy. Sachs, Sammy Sachs.
1:02:12
Samuel Okun Lolo it. It was a great when, when, when
1:02:16
Morgan. Laughed.
1:02:17
It's like, oh man, I had that kick, but you said it.
1:02:19
What up? Hit it.
1:02:21
Yeah, this is a guy that. When you watch his tape, I mean,
1:02:25
he pops, man. You had some pretty decent
1:02:29
production at Colorado, had some has, has had some good
1:02:32
production, you know, throughout his college career so far.
1:02:36
I'm really interested to see if he could take kind of that next
1:02:39
step to become that premier tight pass rusher.
1:02:44
But I mean, he's a guy that, you know, when you watch the tape,
1:02:46
he definitely stands out. He's got really great burst off
1:02:49
the line of scrimmage. He's going to give guys problems
1:02:53
with that speed rush. You know, we'll see if he can
1:02:55
kind of develop a second move or, or, or be a little bit
1:02:58
better all around with that. But for for a guy that is your
1:03:04
pivot from the guy that was considered to be the the jewel
1:03:08
on the defensive side of the football in your, in your
1:03:10
transfer portal class, that's a pretty damn good pivot.
1:03:14
Well, yeah, it was a. Great pivot and and and.
1:03:17
I, I, I mentioned Jones I think a couple weeks ago about how
1:03:21
getting him in here would be good and Sammy's great, but I,
1:03:25
I'm interested to see what they're going to do.
1:03:27
With Curtis Jones, because are they going?
1:03:30
To put him like at an outside linebacker role in his defense,
1:03:35
or we can put him at an edge. And, and The thing is, he is a
1:03:40
football. Player.
1:03:42
He is a football player. How do I say he's a football
1:03:45
player? So he played twelve games, 23
1:03:48
tackles, 3 tackles for loss, including the sack.
1:03:51
He also rushed the ball for 11 times for three touchdowns.
1:03:56
That guy loves football and that's what you want bringing in
1:03:59
here so. I want to see.
1:04:01
Clearly he has some athletic ability.
1:04:03
You know, he's like 6 to like 235.
1:04:06
So he's kind of undersized and edge, but does he have a role?
1:04:11
He's the guy, no disrespect to Denmark.
1:04:13
I think Denmark could be an excellent wide receiver.
1:04:16
But I think those three guys that are coming in, you talked
1:04:20
to Sheldon, was talking about how he kind of levelled it out.
1:04:22
Those three guys. I think we expect you're going
1:04:25
to like to come in this year and you're going to play.
1:04:27
You're going to play. And that's big.
1:04:30
All right, let's get to it real quick.
1:04:32
We're. Going to go through each room
1:04:33
over the next, I'd say 10-15 minutes here, maybe less, and
1:04:37
we're just going to say how we feel about how we feel about the
1:04:40
depth of that room. 1 is the worst, 10 is the best.
1:04:44
If we land on one or 10 for anything, I'll be shocked.
1:04:48
But I just wanted to do this because I think probably next
1:04:50
month at some point, we're going to probably build a depth chart
1:04:55
and say this is how if everything in the perfect world
1:04:58
happens, this is how it's going to look.
1:05:00
So let's start. Let's.
1:05:02
Start with the. Quarterback room, by the way,
1:05:04
I'm going to shout out TSL, all the guys over there, Will David
1:05:10
Guy, who's been on here a lot, Chris.
1:05:11
Coleman, They. Put a hell of a list together
1:05:14
with literally everybody who's in everybody who's out on their
1:05:19
website. It's unbelievable.
1:05:21
It made it really easy for me. I didn't have to put something
1:05:24
together, which I thought I was going to have to do.
1:05:26
But let's start with the quarterback room.
1:05:28
I'm going to start with you, Tally.
1:05:30
Where do you feel death? Right?
1:05:33
Where are? You though.
1:05:34
How do you feel about the whole but?
1:05:35
How you feel about the death One to five, one to.
1:05:39
Ten I would. Say probably.
1:05:42
About a about a seven, Yeah, I'd probably say about A7 on that.
1:05:46
All right. Ron, I'm going to go.
1:05:53
Right at the seven as well all. Right, I'm I'm going.
1:05:56
To go with A5. We know Gronk can play, but it's
1:06:02
behind him of the following Red shirt freshman red shirt
1:06:04
freshman red shirt freshman freshman Is Gronk in the.
1:06:08
Freshman 4. Behind Curtis, I'm going to ask
1:06:11
you one question. What's that?
1:06:14
Let's look at all of the rosters.
1:06:17
In. The power 4.
1:06:19
Let's let's show the power 4. That's a. 140.
1:06:23
Four teams, man 144 players. All right, so all all.
1:06:29
All of those guys, when you look at their depth charts, how many
1:06:34
of their starters beyond QB one have seen anything other than
1:06:39
garbage time? I don't know, I have to look at
1:06:43
every single rostring. Just just but like in your head.
1:06:47
Think, think about how would you say this year 8080% of.
1:06:50
Them probably do not have a solid backup so they're pretty
1:06:54
much in the same damn. Situation we are behind Grump.
1:06:57
I know I want to be better than though.
1:07:01
And there's enough and when I. Say this I'm looking.
1:07:03
At more of a Bryce is likely the number 2, but what I'm saying is
1:07:09
I always want a buffer. I'm sorry, I'm a SAN.
1:07:11
Francisco fan. This year we had the best backup
1:07:13
in the league. He had to play for seven games.
1:07:16
He went five and two. What?
1:07:18
Yeah, so the so. The But The thing is like so
1:07:21
Bronk is a sophomore see a true sophomore or red shirt,
1:07:25
sophomore, red shirt, red shirt. Sophomore.
1:07:27
This year or going into. This year, right?
1:07:29
Yep, Yep. All right.
1:07:31
So he was a red shirt. Freshman.
1:07:32
Last year, right? Cool not.
1:07:35
Expecting. To play.
1:07:37
Nobody really knew what he could do.
1:07:39
He was he gets thrust into action because Drew Allah goes
1:07:44
down to lose their very experienced, you know, starter.
1:07:50
How do we know Kelvin Ryan can't play?
1:07:54
How do we know you know Baker can't play?
1:07:57
Because Virginia Tech doesn't give us an opportunity.
1:08:01
To see it in the past. You know what I'm saying?
1:08:03
When Kyron struggled, when Kyron was hurt, we didn't play another
1:08:07
quarterback, you know what I'm saying?
1:08:09
We just continued to go with the same person.
1:08:12
I don't want anybody to get hurt for us to see it.
1:08:14
But sometimes through adversity it builds some character.
1:08:18
We just never seen it. So a year later, how many people
1:08:23
probably was after Grunt? He was probably one of the most
1:08:25
sought after quarterbacks that was in the portal that wasn't
1:08:30
supposed to play. So to Brian's point, we don't
1:08:34
know what we got. You know what I'm saying?
1:08:35
I don't want to hype it up, but I'm just saying we know that we
1:08:38
have at least a QB, one that is going.
1:08:42
To be very. Capable so I'm.
1:08:46
Excited about that. We're going to be able to.
1:08:48
Throw the ball, I love you but. We couldn't.
1:08:52
Throw the ball and it wasn't all on, Karen.
1:08:54
We'll get into that. We'll take a whole show and
1:08:56
we'll talk about how bad our offensive line was, how bad our
1:08:59
play column was to our personnel, how bad our
1:09:02
quarterback quarterback play was.
1:09:04
But we'll get to see the the wide receivers get some passes.
1:09:08
You know, that's what we want to see.
1:09:10
All right. Let's move on to the running.
1:09:13
Backroom, and I'm going to start with this one.
1:09:14
Give me a nine. I'm right there with you.
1:09:21
I will take a 9. I mean, Overton coming.
1:09:25
Off an. Injury as a true freshman did
1:09:29
that. Imagine what a full.
1:09:33
Offseason. In the room is going to do for
1:09:36
that. Kid.
1:09:38
Holy shit that. That room is going.
1:09:40
To be lights out, him and Hawk are going to be a tandem.
1:09:44
Like I'm not going to go back and say like anything with the
1:09:47
Untouchables or anything like that, but that's going to be a
1:09:49
really good 1-2 punch in that backfield Cali.
1:09:54
Yeah, I'm probably going to go an 8 on that as.
1:09:56
Well, just because people sleep on Hulk, man, I don't know.
1:10:00
Look, I ain't going to say nobody like wanted him to leave,
1:10:03
but I don't think a lot of people really, we thought.
1:10:08
About him leaving or staying. As much as we should have.
1:10:12
I think Hawk had almost 900 yards rushing.
1:10:14
He almost was 1000 yard back. And at the beginning of the
1:10:18
season, who really knew him like we didn't?
1:10:21
We thought, oh, it's going to be, you know, Stewart or, you
1:10:24
know, we thought Overton. We knew he was hurt.
1:10:27
We thought he may get in, you know.
1:10:29
Then we thought Bennett may be the one who catches out of the
1:10:31
backfield and Hawkins comes in for all intents and purposes
1:10:35
plays great behind a crappy offensive line on the three wind
1:10:39
team. So we have some potential and we
1:10:43
have some production which I'm really excited about.
1:10:46
And don't you forget about big. Ass Bill.
1:10:48
James because he going to run through some people.
1:10:52
Bill. Davis.
1:10:54
Bill. Bill Davis.
1:10:54
Yeah, I'm screwed. Damn it, Curtis, What?
1:10:58
Do you say hey? Brian.
1:11:00
Last. Week battle last man.
1:11:05
I like making all crack up, see? Everybody thinks I'm the mile.
1:11:10
The. Group.
1:11:13
Everybody. Thinks I'm the mile man I.
1:11:14
Want to group? But this yeah, and I'm I'm just
1:11:17
getting up the numbers here tally because I couldn't
1:11:19
remember either 75750 He averaged 6 yards of carry,
1:11:25
though last year did Hawk 6 yards a Gary.
1:11:28
Damn good. All right, let's go to wide
1:11:31
receiver tight ends because I I want to bunch them together
1:11:36
because I think again, I think when you to me, I think about
1:11:39
the outside skill positions, you can do so much where two tight
1:11:43
ends and two wide receivers are on the field.
1:11:45
So if you start saying, well, the tight end room's not great
1:11:48
or it's great and the wide. Receiver room's OK.
1:11:50
And it's just like the way they are playing at the same time,
1:11:54
doing the same things. They got a run block, they got
1:11:57
to go out there and run routes, they got to do other things.
1:11:59
So tight end wide receivers, what do y'all think?
1:12:03
About that room. Tally Curtis has said he's.
1:12:08
Going to put them together. I'm going to.
1:12:09
Separate them because I love tight end.
1:12:12
So I'm going to say tidy in room, give me about a 7.87 point
1:12:19
8 and then wide receiver room I'm going to go with a 8.
1:12:23
So I'll say, I'll say tight end room is a little bit under.
1:12:28
Because I don't. Think we've really seen how to
1:12:31
use tight ends in a while at Virginia Tech, though Benji had
1:12:35
a a pretty good year, year before last.
1:12:38
But still, we didn't use them. We weren't at offense to really
1:12:42
use our tight ends the way that we should.
1:12:44
You know, none of the kind of crossing routes, none of the,
1:12:48
you know, up the same routes and things like that where you
1:12:50
really use that tight end. And the reason I say you
1:12:53
separate them, Curtis, is because yes, you do use them
1:12:56
similar, but the tight end room, you're going to have to, they're
1:13:01
going to have to block block like a tight end is, is is.
1:13:06
Blocking. Much different than what a wide
1:13:08
receiver blocks. You think about a tight end
1:13:10
blocking somebody like Ruben Bang or chipping him or you know
1:13:15
what I'm saying, Getting to that next level and and blocking.
1:13:18
What's my man that played that cow #0 like a tight ends going
1:13:21
to have to go block him, wide receiver going to have to block
1:13:24
him. So little bit different.
1:13:26
So that's why I braided the tight ends a little bit under
1:13:29
the receiver room because they're going to have a little
1:13:32
bit harder time and they're very young.
1:13:33
But I think the mix with the young players and very talented.
1:13:38
I think I think the next star out of all the offense is
1:13:43
probably going to be Luke Reynolds.
1:13:47
I mean, I just. Think that he's going to be a.
1:13:49
Star because of his work ethic. If you go look at what he was
1:13:53
doing at Penn State, he's always in the weight room.
1:13:56
He was always winning some kind of award, being the kind of the
1:14:00
first person there, last person to leave type player.
1:14:04
He's fast enough to be able to run, but he's strong enough to
1:14:09
be able to block, which is what we need.
1:14:11
So I think he's going to be a star.
1:14:12
But having Benji come back, Benji going to have to.
1:14:17
Benji, if you watch it, man, I love you.
1:14:19
Your ass is going to have to block.
1:14:21
We know you can kill. We need you to block this year.
1:14:24
You know what I'm saying? I'd love to see some 2 tight end
1:14:27
sets for us to be able to get downhill, whether it's, you
1:14:30
know, some pop passes or some up the scene passes or just
1:14:34
running, you know, right at the defense.
1:14:36
And then the receiver room, I know I'm being long winded, but
1:14:39
then the receiver room is just, you got Uber talent all over the
1:14:43
place. We have it, but again, AG is
1:14:45
going to be AGI think AG is a great possession receiver.
1:14:50
He's a 5050 guy. He's going to go get the ball if
1:14:54
you give him the opportunity most of the time.
1:14:57
But we just haven't really had people that can run past people
1:15:01
consistently and a quarterback, they can get it to him when they
1:15:05
run past people consistently for a while.
1:15:08
So I think that we have that. I think we have that now in the
1:15:12
receiver room. And I think that some people are
1:15:14
going to emerge that we don't even know about in that receiver
1:15:17
room because there's going to be a lot of competition now.
1:15:20
So, Mike said. What's a pass?
1:15:27
Mike, go. Oh, man.
1:15:29
What about you? Brian?
1:15:31
Go. Ahead, Kylie finish up.
1:15:32
No that. Was it?
1:15:33
Man, I was going to toss it to I.
1:15:34
Was going to toss to one of y'all, but you said Brian, so
1:15:37
I'll toss it to Brian. I'll let it right here so since.
1:15:40
Tally, separate them. I'll separate them too.
1:15:44
Give me a 7 1/2 for the tight end room.
1:15:46
I think from a receiving perspective, this this team
1:15:52
would be a nine. But I think from a blocking,
1:15:55
it's like a six and blocking to Tally's point is going to be the
1:16:01
more important aspect because we're going to need them to
1:16:05
block in the running game. We don't always need them in the
1:16:09
passing game. We've got it.
1:16:10
We got weapons across the board in the passing game.
1:16:13
You know, there's going to be sets where they're not even on
1:16:14
the field. We're we're going to need them
1:16:17
in the running game pretty consistently.
1:16:18
So that's why they get a 7 point 7.5.
1:16:22
The wide receiver room I'm going to give an 8.
1:16:27
I. Think this is a very.
1:16:29
Talented group and I you know, tally, you made the point there
1:16:35
you got AG very good possession receiver.
1:16:37
I think he can do some things really well.
1:16:40
He's going to be the kind of the leader in that room.
1:16:43
You got a lot of young talent and then you got a a guy like
1:16:47
Keshawn coming over that's going to, I think be a really good
1:16:50
difference maker in the slot there.
1:16:52
So I think this is going to be a dynamic unit.
1:16:55
I think they're going to work well with what we're trying to
1:16:57
do offensively. And I think the upgrading the
1:17:01
tight end talent, especially in the passing game, along with
1:17:04
what we've been able to do in the portal and in these last few
1:17:09
draft of the last few recruiting classes at the wide receiver
1:17:14
position is going to really give Gronk some some weapons to take
1:17:18
advantage of. Hi.
1:17:21
I'm going to go with A7 for both.
1:17:25
Y'all made the points. About the tight.
1:17:26
Ends and I. Think with the wide receiver
1:17:29
room you've got. Two guys who were pretty.
1:17:33
Established with Aiden and Quish on brown spring to me they.
1:17:38
Could get quicker to an eighth. In the tight end room was good.
1:17:43
That's just the way I feel. About the depth the.
1:17:45
Spring has got I need to see two or three guys in the spring
1:17:48
break out at wide out to push Aiden.
1:17:52
To push Kay Sean. To really say now if if they
1:17:56
need to come off the field, teams are like, and the other
1:18:00
two guys are just as good coming on, the other three guys just as
1:18:03
good coming on. So I'm a 7 and an 8.
1:18:05
All right, back to Brian Siegler, deep breath, Brian.
1:18:09
Currently there are 21 offensive lineman on this roster.
1:18:16
Where do you? Feel on the depth of it 6 OK.
1:18:27
I I. I could probably.
1:18:29
Be talked down to. 5 1/2 I I know I've been on record saying
1:18:34
I would have liked to get another guard in this group in
1:18:39
the transfer portal, a head of the start of camp and and winter
1:18:44
workouts, spring camp, all that. I would have loved to get one
1:18:49
more guard in there to push some of these starters at the high
1:18:52
level. I think we've got guys at the
1:18:56
guard position that can play, but I kind of wanted to level up
1:19:00
that position as well. Obviously we know what we've
1:19:04
done at the tackle position. That's, you know, we talked
1:19:06
about that. That's been an emphasis both in
1:19:09
the 26th class, the way that one wrapped up and what we did in
1:19:12
the portal. You know, we've shored up having
1:19:16
a center that can play behind altooner.
1:19:21
I think we're good there with Troutman.
1:19:23
It's it's really just, you know, we didn't really do a lot of
1:19:26
guard to make that position better.
1:19:29
I would have liked to see some movement there, but you just
1:19:33
wanted one you probably wanted. One established guard where you
1:19:37
do even even if it's been. A rotational player, just
1:19:40
somebody that could come in and push the current starters and
1:19:45
try to level up that room just a little bit more.
1:19:47
Yeah, I'm, I'm. I mean, I don't know.
1:19:50
I'll listen to y'all more but I think it's a six because I only
1:19:53
count 7 guys that can play like I know can play.
1:19:57
To get higher I need to know 8:00 and 9:00 and right now I
1:20:02
only. See. 7.
1:20:03
That have played and there's a couple guys coming in like
1:20:07
Justin Terry, like Justin Bell, Can they play?
1:20:12
Or Lucas Austin, if you tell me one to three of those, this
1:20:17
could get into the 6 1/2 to 7 range tally.
1:20:20
Yeah, I was at about a. 5. Right, Mediocre, you know what
1:20:24
I'm saying? Just because so many unknowns
1:20:27
there and it's so important to like you said, we know we got
1:20:31
about 6 that can play or have played, but we need to be at
1:20:36
about 9 or 10 always so. Yeah, I would say 5 for now,
1:20:41
right? 5 for that one.
1:20:44
All right. Do we want to do defense, the D
1:20:47
line all together or position? All right.
1:20:55
So go. D line tally all.
1:20:58
Together, how you feeling about this room?
1:21:04
Say what now It. Happened it.
1:21:07
Happened. It only took four years.
1:21:10
Somebody else made an appearance on here.
1:21:15
Defensive line, where do you feel?
1:21:17
With the depth of this room. With the defensive line, I would
1:21:24
probably. Say you had about.
1:21:27
A 7/7 and 1/2. Somewhere around there just
1:21:30
because, I mean, I really think JC was taking no disrespect to
1:21:35
some of the players we had, but I think JC was taking, you know,
1:21:39
chicken shit and making chicken salad for a little bit.
1:21:43
And I think that chaos is going to have a lot better something
1:21:46
to work with and more pieces to work with for us to be
1:21:51
productive. You know what I'm saying?
1:21:52
In the past now, last year was bad.
1:21:54
You know, I already talked to y'all about how I feel about the
1:21:56
sacks, what we missed and things like that.
1:21:59
So how many sacks we had compared to the years before.
1:22:03
But even when we were good on the line, we weren't very deep.
1:22:09
I think now we're going to be pretty deep moving forward on
1:22:13
that defensive line, Ron. Yeah, I'm right at a 7 and a.
1:22:20
Half as well. I think this is going to be a
1:22:25
unit that. If not.
1:22:28
The sole strength of the defense is definitely going to be the
1:22:33
reason that we're going to win a lot of games.
1:22:36
I like what even even with the you know, we, we talked about
1:22:40
the, the, the decommit in the transfer portal, you know, with,
1:22:45
with Morgan there, I think we got.
1:22:50
A good pivot there. I think this is going to be a
1:22:52
pretty. Good overall defensive line.
1:22:55
You know, we shored up D tackle a little bit, filled in some
1:22:57
holes there, went out and got a about a good handful of edges,
1:23:01
guys that could rush the passer and and the big problem last
1:23:05
year wasn't even getting pressure.
1:23:07
It was getting home, finishing those plates like we were
1:23:11
getting. We.
1:23:13
Were getting in the. Backfield that wasn't.
1:23:15
The problem, we just were not getting guys to the ground and
1:23:18
ending the play. So yeah, that's going to be the
1:23:21
biggest thing that I'd like to see is us making sure that we
1:23:24
finish those plays and take care of the business once we're in
1:23:27
the backfield. All right, I'm slightly.
1:23:30
Under and I'm. At a six.
1:23:33
And it's more. Leaning.
1:23:34
Towards the defensive end room, because I look at D tackle
1:23:37
between we've seen Copeland and Paul, we know they can play.
1:23:41
We saw Law have flashes last year.
1:23:43
We've seen Johnson have flashes where the defensive end room.
1:23:47
It's more of. It's Sammy Sachs.
1:23:51
Put that on the well and then shout out Matt Neal forgiveness.
1:23:55
That one, there you go, Matt Neal shout out there.
1:23:59
But there's like, there's no second guy.
1:24:03
So I'm at a six right now now. Maybe.
1:24:05
The reason, Brian, you and Tally are feeling better is like
1:24:09
Hilson's pedigree or, you know, Malachi Williams pedigree.
1:24:13
Like these guys, we're going to expect to be good players coming
1:24:16
out. But that's where I'm at like a
1:24:18
six because I just need one more edge.
1:24:21
Got to get my bump up on that. All right, let's roll on.
1:24:26
Brian. Is off camera.
1:24:27
I would be still there in the background, maybe getting a
1:24:29
beverage. Ron, what about the?
1:24:33
Linebacker room. Linebacker room, little unique
1:24:37
brought in some young guys we don't know what some going
1:24:40
Curtis Jones. But returning some.
1:24:45
Returning the dog in returning the phenom.
1:24:49
Returning the dog, returning the.
1:24:50
Phenom. Getting in a really competent
1:24:54
Mike and Keon Wiley coming over from Penn State.
1:24:59
And then potentially. Mixing in some of those young
1:25:03
towns, in particular Brett Clatterbaugh.
1:25:05
So I'm at a six 6 1/2. If he if he really twisted my
1:25:12
arm, I would have liked to seen one more established guy, kind
1:25:17
of the front end of that guys that could be at the 2D1 more 2D
1:25:21
guy that you could really know. You can depend on has the stats,
1:25:25
the experience to back that up. But I really like what was
1:25:30
returning on this roster. I like Keon Wiley and I'm
1:25:34
interested to see what some of the young guys can do.
1:25:37
That's you, Tally. Yeah, I'm right.
1:25:39
At about a six. You know what I'm saying?
1:25:41
Like pretty much what Brian was saying, you know, interested in
1:25:45
seeing what some of the some of the young guys can do as well as
1:25:49
the return talent. But I'm, I'm really excited
1:25:52
about Caleb Spencer. Yeah.
1:25:56
That was that was a big. That was a big.
1:25:59
Run it back. I I'm at a six.
1:26:03
And 1/2. If Curtis Jones isn't a
1:26:05
linebacker, I'm a 7 1/2 if he is a linebacker.
1:26:10
There you go. Because I think what he would
1:26:12
add is that. Like, you've got the three
1:26:15
effective starters right? Between Noah, between Caleb and
1:26:19
between Keyon, if you get that one extra guy.
1:26:24
I know Santiago's still on it, but he just didn't do a lot for
1:26:28
it last year. Maybe he steps.
1:26:32
Up but if you get that 4th. Guy where you know he can
1:26:36
effectively rotate because you feel.
1:26:38
Like. No one can slide to Mike at
1:26:39
times, so if Keon needs a breather, he can bring one guy.
1:26:43
That's my thing. 6 1/2 if Jones is linebacker or not a
1:26:46
linebacker. 7 1/2 He is a linebacker.
1:26:49
Yeah. And we and we still don't know.
1:26:51
You know, I mean, there's a couple.
1:26:52
Things we're still kind of figuring out is Jordan Bass
1:26:55
playing star or safety. You know, what sort of progress
1:27:00
do we see in, in terms of Gay Williams's development?
1:27:04
Like there's a lot of question marks out there with the overall
1:27:06
lineback position. So we can really see that
1:27:09
position level up just from things we don't really know
1:27:12
about yet. 100% All right. Let's go down.
1:27:16
To the cornerback. Room, we'll include the Nichols.
1:27:18
With what we're feeling on this room.
1:27:24
Who's going first? You are.
1:27:27
You know, I'm going first, you know, looking at the guys we
1:27:33
brought in with, you know, Woolsey, White, Chadwick, you
1:27:40
combine that with what we're bringing back and you look at
1:27:42
what we were already had going on at that nickel spot.
1:27:47
Like, you know, I know, I know Chris Lester's been on here and
1:27:51
sung his praises. What I saw early from Knowledge
1:27:55
Harold was legit. So I think, I think death wise,
1:28:00
we're going to be able to go, you know, six corners deep and
1:28:05
not really. See a ton of drop.
1:28:06
Off, you know, counting the, the, the, the two edges there
1:28:09
with the nickel. All right.
1:28:13
Kelly probably get me at about a.
1:28:18
Six and a. Half.
1:28:19
I'd say probably. About a 6 1/2 and the main
1:28:23
reason is I think probably one of the people I'm most excited
1:28:28
about in the corners room is coming off of an injury.
1:28:31
Jay Cinco. That's fair coming off of an
1:28:34
injury. You know if I.
1:28:36
Knew he was able to play at a high level which I think.
1:28:42
He will be, but I'm. Just saying, I knew that
1:28:45
probably would be more at about 8:00, but I think that for us to
1:28:49
be where I'm comfortable, I need to see, I need to see Clark on
1:28:56
that field and grooving. Did I give a number?
1:28:59
I don't even think I gave a fucking.
1:29:00
Number. Did I say?
1:29:00
I thought you gave a seven. Yeah.
1:29:02
OK, 7. I thought you gave a. 7.
1:29:06
Yeah, I'm, I'm. See y'all.
1:29:08
Y'all are a little bearish on this room.
1:29:10
I'm. Bullish on this room.
1:29:11
I'm an 8 because Chadwick White Brown.
1:29:16
Murray Williams. Kenny Woosley, all can play.
1:29:19
They can play at the Division One level.
1:29:21
You start talking about if. Clark.
1:29:24
If Harold continues to show what he flashed last year, you're
1:29:29
talking about a. Room that.
1:29:31
Literally any combination on the field, you're going to have good
1:29:36
results like it's it's. It's deep.
1:29:40
It's it's not. The whole like some of the
1:29:42
rooms, can this guy play? We need somebody to step up
1:29:46
where with this room we start turning on film.
1:29:48
It's like, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
1:29:51
All these guys can play. Do they have their moments?
1:29:53
Yes. Every corner has moments,
1:29:54
though. Every corners been beat.
1:29:57
But you start seeing that in this.
1:29:59
If you're telling me Knowledge and Jay Cinco, Josh Clark go to
1:30:03
where we think they can go with their ceilings, Yep, that room,
1:30:08
I mean. And talk about a room that
1:30:10
completely flipped. Because once Lovett opted out
1:30:13
last year, like it got in the portal, that room was decimated.
1:30:18
And they have completely built that to to a point.
1:30:21
Like I said, when I said the defensive line I think is going
1:30:24
to be the strength of this defense, it's because the
1:30:26
cornerback room has leveled up to a point where they're in that
1:30:29
discussion 100 percent, 100%. But also that opted that gave
1:30:36
Knowledge Herald a chance to show in flash to say, all right,
1:30:41
now we got some tape for you. Go clean this up and you're
1:30:44
going to be way up here. Yeah.
1:30:47
The raw ability. Of knowledge, Harrell.
1:30:49
Is. Unreal.
1:30:50
It is there, understand? Yeah, and I think like his.
1:30:54
Knowledge of the game I think is the biggest part.
1:30:56
Like he, you know, it didn't seem like he ever looked like he
1:31:00
was lost anywhere, which you don't really really see that a
1:31:02
lot with a true freshman getting out there and getting some time.
1:31:05
So shout out to him and and if we can see him take another step
1:31:09
this year, that's going to be huge. 100% all right.
1:31:12
Let's see our last room here. And that's the safety room and
1:31:16
I'm going. To start with this one.
1:31:19
I'm going to be nice. And gracious and give it a 5.
1:31:22
I this is 1 room I am completely worried about now maybe having
1:31:28
that corner room at an 8 and if and if knowledge and.
1:31:32
Josh, take that big. Step it don't matter what the
1:31:34
safeties do, but I don't feel good about this room.
1:31:38
And if one guy I feel good about, his name is Gwen Reddish,
1:31:41
he's the only guy I feel really good about.
1:31:43
Off of Andrew. 5 coming off an injury.
1:31:46
That's just the way it was I'm. In I'm in a 5 for that room.
1:31:51
Tally, I'll let you go first on this one.
1:31:53
Yeah, I. Probably I'm.
1:31:56
I'm probably going. To say a little bit more.
1:31:58
Optimistic than Curtis, but not much.
1:32:00
I'd probably say about a six just because I know if.
1:32:06
Q if Q is on the field. And he's not coming off of a
1:32:09
knee injury, you know what I'm saying?
1:32:12
He if Q is on the field, I know what he brings, so I'm pretty
1:32:22
excited about that. Part of it.
1:32:24
But I was hoping we was going to go out and get maybe a, you
1:32:27
know, another safety as well, just to have a rotation piece
1:32:32
and we didn't do that. So 6 is where I'm at, Yeah, I
1:32:38
think. You know, if I knew, if I knew
1:32:41
what we were going to get from some of these guys, like because
1:32:45
we're not bringing anybody in, right?
1:32:47
So we're not bringing anybody in this position.
1:32:48
We're literally talking about guys that are coming back.
1:32:52
I think frontline, you know, we we saw, you know, Jordan Bass
1:32:57
likes to hit people. We know that that right.
1:32:59
We know that we know what what Q can do.
1:33:02
I think there's a lot of question marks behind that.
1:33:06
You know you got. Sheldon Robinson.
1:33:08
Showed some flashes. Can he take a step?
1:33:11
What are we going to get out of Chirag Koval this year?
1:33:16
What can a guy, you know, I, I really don't know what we have
1:33:20
beyond that. So that's kind of where I'm at
1:33:23
is is Chirag Koval going to step up?
1:33:24
Because you know, you you want at least 4 safeties that you can
1:33:27
count on. And right now I've got 2 1/2, so
1:33:32
beyond the front. Line I'm I'm concerned about.
1:33:34
Depth. So it, it's a, it's a tentative
1:33:37
5 for me, But I, I think that if some of the young guys come on
1:33:41
at that position, I think we could, you know, talk about that
1:33:43
being levelled up. I don't know how much we'll see
1:33:47
in spring practice in the spring game that'll give us any more
1:33:50
confidence about that as we go forward.
1:33:53
But I think it's, you know, it's a, it's a room that probably I'm
1:33:56
the most concerned about on the defense just because I, I think
1:33:59
the front line is fine. I think the depth is the
1:34:02
concern. 100% tallies off right there so.
1:34:06
That that's kind of where we are and this is pre spring with that
1:34:09
too. Again, a lot of this we want to
1:34:11
see what we hear from practices, what we see at the springing.
1:34:15
Yes, we know it's all vanilla, but if people are looking good,
1:34:19
if there's position changes, you never know what might take
1:34:22
place. Hey Curtis, this is Virginia
1:34:23
Tech. How we feeling about specialist?
1:34:30
Feeling good, we got the. Boomer from the.
1:34:32
The boomer mullet kid from Marshall and you got the love
1:34:36
brothers. That's right.
1:34:37
I mean. Ten yeah, yeah, A10 about the
1:34:41
specialist as as good. As as high as you can.
1:34:44
Get I feel good about the specialist, give me a 10/9 and
1:34:47
1/2 whatever the fuck you want to give me.
1:34:49
I'm I'm good with them. Damn right all.
1:34:54
Right, let's roll on now and. Just a couple more pieces to
1:34:57
hit. The coaching staff finally
1:34:59
rounded out with the Curtis was so.
1:35:02
Happy when that came out. It took forever.
1:35:04
Curtis was about to lose his. Mind, why don't we own fucking
1:35:08
safety scores? For a month and a half, that's.
1:35:13
All Curtis can talk about. Yes, yes, I harped on it, but
1:35:16
it's finally done. They got the three final
1:35:18
defensive coaches finally confirmed.
1:35:20
Darius Eubanks is going to be linebacker coach, Nick Perry
1:35:24
cornerback coach and Anthony Midget, legendary Anthony Midget
1:35:29
going to be the same safety coach and now you start looking.
1:35:33
I don't want to get into support staff yet because it's going to
1:35:37
be more and probably another. Day between now and the.
1:35:41
Spring they'll probably. Start putting all that stuff up
1:35:43
where we can really dissect it and say how good.
1:35:46
With the exception of Warren. Ruggiero.
1:35:49
Because that, that makes me feel so much better.
1:35:51
About the offense is Warren. Is like the senior analyst on
1:35:53
offense that's big and, and let's let's talk about.
1:35:56
Another thing, because this is something that I think you know,
1:35:59
outside of a, you know, a Sean Spencer and outside of Fontell
1:36:03
getting his money and things like that, we were like, why?
1:36:06
Why aren't we going out there and spending big money on these
1:36:09
position coaches? And it's like, well, when you
1:36:12
see with the analysts that we're bringing in the amount and who
1:36:15
it is, we're spending money. On.
1:36:19
This coaching staff, we're just not throwing it all at the top
1:36:22
flight position groups that the guys that are recruiting, we're
1:36:25
throwing it at recruiters. We got recruiters all over the
1:36:27
staff, but we're also got analyst all over the place.
1:36:31
And that's going to matter big time, especially with those
1:36:34
situational pieces and the game prep pieces that we struggled
1:36:38
with, frankly, the last really even going back to Fuente.
1:36:42
So no, it's true. It's true.
1:36:45
But overall, I mean, it's set. I look at it, I'd like to feel a
1:36:50
lot better, but I don't feel terrible.
1:36:52
Tally, what about you just kind of setting the final pieces of
1:36:55
the staff? Yeah.
1:36:57
No, I think that. Kind of what Brian said, I mean,
1:37:00
we're spending money kind of across the board and I kind of
1:37:04
look at the coaching staff the same as the recruiting that
1:37:07
we've done. You can't spend.
1:37:10
Big in one place when? You need everything he had to we
1:37:15
had to spread it out and get everything we had to get a
1:37:19
foundation set to be able to build on and you want, I mean,
1:37:26
prom may have. Like cleared the.
1:37:28
Land off. That might have been all he done
1:37:32
at the end of the day. We had to, we had to go in there
1:37:35
and pour some concrete, man. So I'm pretty, I'm pretty
1:37:39
excited about I, you know, not saying everything's great and
1:37:43
we're going to be awesome. I'm just saying for what we had
1:37:46
to work with, I think we've done pretty good.
1:37:49
I think we've had some pivots in that coaching staff, but I'm
1:37:53
pretty happy with the places that I was.
1:37:57
Most worried about the. Trenches, I think we're going to
1:38:00
be OK and I think we're going to upgrade.
1:38:02
I'll say that. I know we've upgraded on one
1:38:06
side of the ball with the coaching.
1:38:09
Matt Moore still being there and having more pieces to work with
1:38:13
is an upgrade. Same coach, he's got some help
1:38:16
to help him and we've got more pieces.
1:38:19
So coaching and recruiting, definitely, I'm OK with both of
1:38:25
those. Nice.
1:38:27
All right. Last peace before.
1:38:28
We close it out tonight. Basketball teams.
1:38:35
What's 16? 60 Lord, have mercy.
1:38:39
But I'm going to. Tell you what, I I, may I?
1:38:42
Threw in a chat last night, I hope you all saw it.
1:38:44
This team makes me have to throw 2 Zim's in and take a couple
1:38:50
fingers of whiskey at the end of games.
1:38:53
We are the. Worst team in the final three.
1:38:55
Minutes in the country, the last two minutes, man the last. 2-3
1:39:00
minutes, it's insane. And you know.
1:39:05
And amazingly, amazingly, we've only blown a couple and a couple
1:39:10
had to be a buzzer beater against us. 333 buzzer beaters.
1:39:15
3 blown. Yeah.
1:39:17
I mean, we've only really gotten beat beat in two games this
1:39:20
year, the Louisville game, which.
1:39:23
With that, that stud. Coming back.
1:39:26
I'm not saying I expected I wanted a better show in there.
1:39:28
Yeah. And then VCU coming off the the.
1:39:31
Wall injury, we were talking about that.
1:39:34
The other day, do we even count those?
1:39:37
Because you talk about a flip turn around the walls, your
1:39:40
primary rebounder, defender, transition guy, and you have
1:39:43
literally one day to prep, no days to prep without a day to
1:39:48
prep, half day to prep, and you play.
1:39:50
Saint Mary's. Before like those two are what
1:39:52
they are, but I mean like. Right now I think of all those
1:39:59
guys. They're in the last four in a
1:40:02
lot of Quad 1 and. Two wins, good record.
1:40:04
Day so pretty crazy, but MM young if you're listening figure
1:40:11
away how to. Coach, how to get a ball?
1:40:12
In on a press in the last 120 seconds, that is.
1:40:17
Everybody been saying players, players, players.
1:40:21
That's coaching. That's understanding the players
1:40:23
you. Need and that's understanding
1:40:25
how to set back screens, how to get the ball to somebody in a
1:40:28
position and it seems to. Me, that's continuing.
1:40:32
To be an. Issue to me, it's on might not
1:40:35
so much to players. Yeah, it's, I mean.
1:40:40
We can talk about, I mean, Neo has been inefficient, but he has
1:40:46
been particularly poor in those three minutes, especially with
1:40:51
the ball handling. He is not adjusted very well to
1:40:54
the college game and knowing not only knowing how to press when,
1:41:00
when, when to move the ball, when not when to stop the ball,
1:41:03
things like that. It's like he's not assertive
1:41:05
when when he should be, but he's also passive when he shouldn't
1:41:11
be. So it's like he doesn't really
1:41:13
know. He hasn't gotten a feel for
1:41:15
everything and that just gets compounded when you got a full
1:41:18
court press at the end of games. It's true, man.
1:41:22
So, so true. Hi.
1:41:25
Boys, anything else? We want to.
1:41:27
Hit on before we wrap it up, man.
1:41:30
It's just good to be back. In here with you guys man.
1:41:32
It's I know it's offseason. We're probably only going once
1:41:35
every couple weeks, you know, for the next, you know, month or
1:41:39
so. But it's going to be, you know,
1:41:42
March hits, it's going to be back into full throttle again.
1:41:45
But I always love jumping on with you guys, man.
1:41:48
It's always, always a good fucking good to be excited.
1:41:52
About football. I.
1:41:53
Think one thing that we didn't talk about before we go Curtis
1:41:59
missed it. He kind of hit on it, but he
1:42:02
didn't. Say.
1:42:03
What games are you looking to go to this year?
1:42:07
I know it's. Early.
1:42:08
I know it's early but. You got a plan.
1:42:10
Now, Curtis, I can't wait. Until May, I'll just pay the
1:42:14
extra money. I'll go ahead and tell you right
1:42:17
now. I'm I'm going to Clemson.
1:42:21
I'm going to Clemson. That's.
1:42:22
Going to be my awakening. Was going to be.
1:42:23
That's 3 1/2 hours for you though.
1:42:25
That's not. No, that's about 5.
1:42:27
It's about 5:00. Hours.
1:42:28
About 5 hours for me. So I want to, I want to go to
1:42:32
Clemson. I don't know where I'm going to
1:42:34
stay. Because they already tripping
1:42:35
about prices of water. So it's going to be somewhere
1:42:38
outside of where the university is.
1:42:42
But I want to go to Clemson now. The home game is going to be a
1:42:45
little tricky. I don't know what home game I
1:42:47
want to go to, but that's where I need some help.
1:42:53
Chad, where's everybody going, what games we're going to this
1:42:55
year? I'm going to try to talk Curtis
1:42:57
to take a road trip with me. To to College Park, I heard they
1:43:00
got a really good target in your campus.
1:43:07
We shall see what. Those.
1:43:09
Tickets should be pretty affordable for that.
1:43:11
So maybe they're, I don't know, like if.
1:43:16
If you ask me right now, the. Game I want to go to.
1:43:19
Because I think we're going. To start off hot, I think Pitt
1:43:23
is going to be a fun. Game.
1:43:25
I was trying to think Pitt too but.
1:43:27
Pitt like Pitt A reality game, though?
1:43:29
Pitt's a Friday. Game.
1:43:30
It's a Friday game. It's a Friday game.
1:43:33
That's the only reason I wasn't. Locked in on Pitt, on Pitt
1:43:36
because it's a Friday game and when I go to Blacksburg I kind
1:43:39
of want the whole Saturday experience this year, 100%.
1:43:45
But the fun thing about? A Friday.
1:43:47
The fun thing? About a Friday game is that you
1:43:49
can go Friday. You get a night game experience,
1:43:52
stay the night, spend all day Saturday in Blacksburg at the
1:43:56
bars just watching games with everybody, go hang out at the
1:43:59
bars. So it's.
1:44:00
Been half the day, spend half the go downtown, eat breakfast,
1:44:03
eat lunch, watch games and then tally.
1:44:06
You know you can when it's getting close to dinner. 4:00
1:44:09
You can say I love all y'all, but I got to go to Bristol to
1:44:12
gamble for a few hours before I get back to Alabama.
1:44:14
There we go. So maybe that's the. 1.
1:44:17
If it ain't that one than Georgia Tech same way
1:44:21
mid-october. I was thinking Georgia Tech too
1:44:24
if I mid-october on. That Friday, I was.
1:44:26
Thinking Georgia Tech will be a. Good game, I'd circle those.
1:44:31
Two games now something. Out, by the way, our buddy
1:44:33
Jason, Music man, he thinks about going to the BMI game,
1:44:37
like, right out the gate. Just go.
1:44:38
Yeah, Labor Day weekend. We'll.
1:44:41
See, I got to give a few months. We got our schedules and stuff
1:44:44
to go out and money. It's always about.
1:44:47
I might be heading out of town on the.
1:44:50
Heels of that. So that's why I have not
1:44:52
committed to VMI yet. So we will see.
1:44:55
All good man. Well, with that.
1:44:56
Being said. Love to hear where y'all are
1:44:59
thinking about or your games you want to go to this year.
1:45:03
But let's wrap it up. This episode of the Boundary
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