Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 318: Time (SG-U 1.08)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Done that before. Hello, Hello, Queen's is this? Is this
- 0:05Speaker 1: what we call a cold open? It is now, it's
- 0:10Speaker 1: a test, the test test. Do we sound different?
- 0:14Speaker 2: I guess we won't know because we're we're live, so
- 0:16Speaker 2: we won't know where blood until we hear it back
- 0:18Speaker 2: later on.
- 0:19Speaker 1: If it's any good or not.
- 0:20Speaker 3: M you sound great to me?
- 0:22Speaker 2: Oh thanks mate, Yeah, but what about the quality? Oh
- 0:28Speaker 2: where's my wrap horn?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Oh you haven't found room for that in the buttons.
- 0:31Speaker 3: What a shame.
- 0:38Speaker 2: So yes, for those listening, we're recording coming to you
- 0:42Speaker 2: live from high Pitchers dining room table. Well, at least
- 0:46Speaker 2: at least Brendan and I are mitches down the line
- 0:49Speaker 2: because his family single handedly trying to bring back COVID.
- 0:54Speaker 4: They're doing a bit. We've all got a different symptom
- 0:56Speaker 4: at the moment. It's fantastic. So it's a four days
- 1:01Speaker 4: in the making. And look, I remain unscathed, but I'm
- 1:04Speaker 4: in the bunker at the moment. Patient mm hmmm hmmm.
- 1:08Speaker 2: And if you're wondering what what took us so long
- 1:11Speaker 2: to get to our next episode, if you are listening,
- 1:13Speaker 2: you know in twenty twenty six, this is what happens
- 1:17Speaker 2: when there's a written and directed by Cooper episode. Brennan's
- 1:20Speaker 2: just like, no, not happening. I need to I need to.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Take a break out of here.
- 1:23Speaker 3: I need two months.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so Brennan's bloody Cooper. Brennan's just got out of
- 1:28Speaker 2: a mental health facility. It's great to be He's just
- 1:32Speaker 2: gotten out of Cooper rehab.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I pour some crazy muscle here in my chest. That's
- 1:42Speaker 1: a purenemic. Thanks, Corky. Get into Gate episode three, one
- 2:02Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen. We're talking Stargate Universe episode eight. Time Mitch,
- 2:08Speaker 1: down the line here you are, mate.
- 2:10Speaker 3: What's up? Oh god?
- 2:11Speaker 4: This is the other end of the intro because this
- 2:13Speaker 4: hasn't happened in a long time.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Absolutely, my name is Brendan, and joining us also is
- 2:18Speaker 1: high pitched Maddie, the one and only. Yeah, good a guys. Yeah,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I was going to say, in case you missed that
- 2:24Speaker 1: short announcement last week, we lost access to the studio.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Mitch no longer works for the radio station at no
- 2:30Speaker 1: fault of his own, So we have created our own
- 2:33Speaker 1: little set up here with pizza and zoom. Even it's
- 2:38Speaker 1: all happening. Yeah, I'm getting COVID flashbacks. Absolutely, but we
- 2:42Speaker 1: couldn't have done this without the great listeners and the patrons,
- 2:46Speaker 1: or at least not have come back as fast.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, thank you to everybody who's jumped on the
- 2:50Speaker 2: Patreon just in general before any of this. Yeah, you
- 2:54Speaker 2: just made getting our own equipment so much easier, just
- 2:57Speaker 2: being able to grab some good quality mic, some good
- 2:59Speaker 2: quality headphones, and some other sound pressing equipment and stuff
- 3:02Speaker 2: like that. It is a temporary stop gap measure. We
- 3:04Speaker 2: might have some news for you in the new year,
- 3:07Speaker 2: but for the foreseeable future, for the rest of universe
- 3:11Speaker 2: at least, this is.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Going to be the new normal. Until then, we're in
- 3:15Speaker 1: Maddie's kitchen, yeah, and cracking out some Star Game. Yeah.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Once, once this episode finishes, I'm bending kitchen. I'm bending Brendan.
- 3:24Speaker 2: It's a it's a he's getting to it. He's getting
- 3:27Speaker 2: too excited. It's a tongue twister. It's bending bending Brandon
- 3:32Speaker 2: over my kitchen bench. It's going to be it's like
- 3:35Speaker 2: a swirling motions, like a Peter Piper picked a peck
- 3:38Speaker 2: of Now it's bending Brendan. So try to say they
- 3:42Speaker 2: start saying bending Brendan three times fast. It just doesn't
- 3:46Speaker 2: it's going on the hot keys. Oh yeah, you, Mitch.
- 3:50Speaker 2: You've been bending Brennan over the kitchen bench since high school.
- 3:52Speaker 2: So let's not get it twisted. All one for one.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Come on now, obviously I'm not the dominant one.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I do read. Let me introduce you to the term
- 4:03Speaker 1: called power bottom.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You don't know.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You don't have to. You don't have to be the
- 4:06Speaker 1: dominant one and be the that's.
- 4:08Speaker 3: A woke term. Obviously, you've got to have dominant. When
- 4:11Speaker 3: you know that dominant one.
- 4:13Speaker 1: You can be.
- 4:14Speaker 2: You can be the catcher and still be dominant, mate.
- 4:16Speaker 2: There is nothing wrong with that. Alright, let's get into
- 4:19Speaker 2: the bloody synopsis here. After making a surprising discovery on
- 4:23Speaker 2: a jungle planet, members of the team become ill. To
- 4:26Speaker 2: isolate the infection, the team sets up camp in the jungle,
- 4:30Speaker 2: do they Apparently not.
- 4:32Speaker 1: They just stranded there, But when nightfalls, the illness will
- 4:35Speaker 1: be the least of their worries. Written and directed by
- 4:38Speaker 1: Robert C.
- 4:45Speaker 5: Hello, I'm a Robert Cooper, a writer, director, executive producer,
- 4:52Speaker 5: co creator.
- 4:53Speaker 6: Can you leave some words for me to say for
- 4:54Speaker 6: my credits?
- 4:55Speaker 1: Oh?
- 4:55Speaker 5: My god, I didn't cater nothing left, No, I don't cater.
- 4:59Speaker 1: It doesn't Yeah, he's back at it again.
- 5:02Speaker 3: He wouldn't have tied us. I imagine old one joke Cooper,
- 5:09Speaker 3: everyone bring your own bag of chips?
- 5:12Speaker 1: Can I beneath me?
- 5:14Speaker 4: When this started, and I thought for a second, because
- 5:18Speaker 4: I know it's been a little while since we've talked
- 5:20Speaker 4: about se sgu and I'm like, well, I know the
- 5:24Speaker 4: last one we watched. And then all of a sudden,
- 5:26Speaker 4: we're emerging into a planet. I'm like, this just seems
- 5:29Speaker 4: like a bit of a jump like that, we're just
- 5:31Speaker 4: doing this without any setup. I wonder I had to
- 5:33Speaker 4: go back and make sure that there was no episode
- 5:35Speaker 4: that I'd skipped, and no, I'm under this one. Okay, great,
- 5:38Speaker 4: just we'll watch them. Oh, it's the key of that's
- 5:40Speaker 4: what this is. Okay, great. And I thought it was
- 5:42Speaker 4: going to be like a Woner or something like that,
- 5:44Speaker 4: and no, it's it's cutting in and out of different clips.
- 5:48Speaker 3: And after a couple of minutes, I thought, Okay, this
- 5:50Speaker 3: is fine. This is obviously for a reason, but I
- 5:51Speaker 3: wonder whether I'm going to get sick of this. And
- 5:54Speaker 3: literally the.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Second that that thought finished in my head, up popped
- 5:59Speaker 4: the credit written and directed by Robinson Cooper, and I'm like, yeah,
- 6:02Speaker 4: I bet I'll get sick of this like it just
- 6:04Speaker 4: because he was obviously the creative behind and I was like,
- 6:07Speaker 4: I bet I'll get sick of this. Like that would
- 6:09Speaker 4: have been any Mkeita, it would have been like, let's
- 6:11Speaker 4: see where Andrew goes with this, you know, very very
- 6:14Speaker 4: very creative, very bold decision. But the fact that it
- 6:16Speaker 4: was Cooper, I was a bit like, You've got to
- 6:18Speaker 4: prove this to me, mate, So.
- 6:20Speaker 1: And this is actually very Cooper's first solo hitout at
- 6:23Speaker 1: a time travel episode. Really, if we go back in
- 6:28Speaker 1: time nineteen sixty nine, Brad Right twenty ten, Brad Right
- 6:35Speaker 1: maybe is Joe and Paul and Brad Right, but also
- 6:39Speaker 1: on some sites Cooper gets some credit for that end
- 6:42Speaker 1: of season Ah yeah, Continuum obviously, Brad Right SGA Before
- 6:47Speaker 1: I Sleep, Carl Binderbinder SGA, The Last Man, Joe and Paul,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and this one Bloody Coops.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like because it's just like him to
- 6:58Speaker 2: like shoot outside the box. I've got so much fodder
- 7:03Speaker 2: from the audio commentary, but one thing I didn't grab
- 7:05Speaker 2: because this is his first solo writing credit for universe. Uh,
- 7:11Speaker 2: and he's obviously his first time directing it as well.
- 7:13Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I was really excited to hit the
- 7:14Speaker 2: ground running because you know, it's such a different shooting style.
- 7:17Speaker 2: We can do the snap cuts and all these kind
- 7:18Speaker 2: of things, and he goes, then I went away and
- 7:20Speaker 2: I wrote an episode that's entirely shot on a knot.
- 7:23Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't you do that with any alp? Yeah? Right,
- 7:27Speaker 1: that would have been more creative, turned them up, and
- 7:30Speaker 1: it's just it's just happened down the malpre.
- 7:38Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't even think about it until now,
- 7:41Speaker 4: but just the idea that, okay, it's about time travel,
- 7:44Speaker 4: but let's not forget what comes out at night? Are
- 7:47Speaker 4: these time bugs? Like wow, yeah, time slugs? Yeah, I
- 7:54Speaker 4: been there before.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Well, we are in a we are in a post
- 7:59Speaker 2: staff letdy Catta world where now they have introduced warp slugs,
- 8:03Speaker 2: so nothing's off limits at this point. Warp slugs, yeah, jesus,
- 8:06Speaker 2: just little slugs that can just warp across the room.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Why why not, guys, why slither? Yeah? Just warp just
- 8:13Speaker 1: a bit of fun, yeah, bloody ell. Anyway, I thought
- 8:16Speaker 1: the premise was okay, but as soon as one of
- 8:19Speaker 1: the main characters died, I was like, Okay, this is yeah,
- 8:22Speaker 1: clearly one of those moments where we're just like, okay,
- 8:26Speaker 1: now what nothing really matters.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And further on what you were saying Mitch about, like
- 8:33Speaker 2: there the opening and how that sort of grabbed you
- 8:35Speaker 2: and I found that way on the the ending of
- 8:38Speaker 2: this episode, Like, I did like the like the reveal
- 8:42Speaker 2: that we weren't following the last team like, but it
- 8:46Speaker 2: also felt a little unsatisfying in the ending, because I
- 8:50Speaker 2: think Cooper wrote this like it was an Atlantis or
- 8:52Speaker 2: an SG one in that it was a single standalone episode.
- 8:57Speaker 2: But when we're only eight episodes into this show and
- 9:00Speaker 2: it's very much been a continuation of a story, I
- 9:05Speaker 2: was waiting. I remember the first time watching this, I
- 9:07Speaker 2: was like, Oh, it's a cliffhanger. I can't wait to
- 9:08Speaker 2: see what happens next week. The spoiler alert next week
- 9:12Speaker 2: is a completely different episode that this is the end
- 9:14Speaker 2: of the episode.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Well, there is actually a keynote comes after this, which
- 9:18Speaker 1: I'll play for you, which is the most.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Annoying part that actually actually played this bit first. This
- 9:23Speaker 2: is Robert Cooper talking about it in the audio commentary.
- 9:26Speaker 5: You know, why are you filming this? And you know,
- 9:29Speaker 5: who's ever going to see that? That whole argument from
- 9:31Speaker 5: the pilot where it's like shut that thing off and
- 9:34Speaker 5: it's like maybe someday this will be important.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Well, and it turns.
- 9:37Speaker 6: Out it was never going to see that.
- 9:40Speaker 7: Fortunately, that point was never made though because of the style,
- 9:43Speaker 7: never really happens, so no one ever actually made that point.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Well true, if you have to watch the.
- 9:49Speaker 6: Episode, it will all.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Make sense, is that, David Blue?
- 9:55Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, this this episode basically relies on you
- 9:58Speaker 2: watching the Little Go on the Internet if you want to.
- 10:01Speaker 1: It's funny because I was watching it with my son
- 10:03Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, put the next episode on. I'm
- 10:05Speaker 1: interested in and I'm like, you be disappointed. So they're
- 10:10Speaker 1: not ripped out the old this one. This is the
- 10:12Speaker 1: Cane I fall number, new Kid, New kind of crazy.
- 10:19Speaker 7: Okay, this isn't new kind of crazy. We just came
- 10:23Speaker 7: back from a planet where we found these two knots
- 10:25Speaker 7: near the gate. Both were out of power and their
- 10:28Speaker 7: data banks were full. One had this message at the beginning.
- 10:35Speaker 5: If you've found this just because the solar flare interfered
- 10:39Speaker 5: with cakes travel and I just said this keynote.
- 10:43Speaker 8: Back in time.
- 10:45Speaker 9: Seriously, both of are actually from the future, different timelines
- 10:51Speaker 9: that haven't even happened yet.
- 10:53Speaker 5: How awesome is that.
- 10:56Speaker 7: The recording shows some of us going to the planet
- 11:00Speaker 7: and then getting attacked by the most disgusting creatures you've
- 11:04Speaker 7: ever seen in your life and dying.
- 11:07Speaker 6: It's gross. They burrow into you and then they just
- 11:10Speaker 6: come bursting out.
- 11:11Speaker 7: All right.
- 11:11Speaker 9: Anyway, the thing is, apparently we all have a disease
- 11:16Speaker 9: from the water the Colonel Young and I brought back
- 11:18Speaker 9: from that ice planet. But in the future we figured
- 11:21Speaker 9: out that these creatures actually have some sort of healing properties.
- 11:25Speaker 7: So Colonel Young took a team through, including Lieutenant Scott
- 11:28Speaker 7: here we're lucky as light out and managed to capture
- 11:31Speaker 7: a few of them before this whole solar flare thing happened.
- 11:34Speaker 6: You should really explain that whole thing.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah, please die, you don't.
- 11:40Speaker 7: Actually, I have a better idea here.
- 11:41Speaker 10: What says a wormhole is essentially a shortcut through space
- 11:45Speaker 10: time that allows us to travel across great distances almost instantaneously.
- 11:49Speaker 10: When wormhole's trajectory passes too close to a star, however,
- 11:52Speaker 10: large enough solar flare can interfere with the time part
- 11:54Speaker 10: of that equation, and in some cases, it's shown here,
- 11:57Speaker 10: it can actually cause the wormhole to loop back around
- 11:59Speaker 10: to the same where it reconnects in either the past
- 12:01Speaker 10: or the future.
- 12:03Speaker 1: That's roy that is mind boggling.
- 12:07Speaker 10: Really seems simple enough to me.
- 12:13Speaker 7: So anyway, TJ is working with a venom right now,
- 12:17Speaker 7: and we'll hopefully be able to come up with some
- 12:19Speaker 7: kind of cure before anybody gets too sick.
- 12:24Speaker 9: Doctor Volker and Chloe are already not feeling.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Well laughing before.
- 12:33Speaker 11: Yeah, all I can say is, let me cut to
- 12:36Speaker 11: the thank you to future Scott for sacrificing yourself to
- 12:42Speaker 11: try to save us.
- 12:43Speaker 3: That was nothing for me.
- 12:46Speaker 9: Apparently future me died pretty horribly, so I guess I think.
- 12:50Speaker 12: I have future me to think too.
- 12:52Speaker 7: The fact is a lot of us are starting to
- 12:54Speaker 7: wonder if things are ever going to settle down around here.
- 12:58Speaker 7: I mean, before all this happened, thought that I was
- 13:00Speaker 7: going to die of boredom. Now I d without facing
- 13:05Speaker 7: imminent death would be nice.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Amen to that, get it, priest, because oh, because he
- 13:19Speaker 1: likes game in amen to that? Yeah, I mean, do
- 13:24Speaker 1: you know even better than that.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Not playing it, just actually do it In the episode,
- 13:28Speaker 2: like if you're gonna write, if you're gonna write an
- 13:30Speaker 2: episode of television, put the conclusion in the episode.
- 13:33Speaker 1: And have Robert Carlisle doing it instead of high school musical. Yeah, yeah, true,
- 13:37Speaker 1: that was like not great acting now, and that was
- 13:40Speaker 1: that puts a whole new level to remember that. Remember
- 13:43Speaker 1: those DVD bonus features of Hammond and Fraser talking to
- 13:47Speaker 1: the camera, Yes, that makes those look oscar worthy compared
- 13:50Speaker 1: to what we just sat through there. That was. That
- 13:54Speaker 1: was yikes. I wish I had to cut the damn
- 13:57Speaker 1: because even on board Now, oh god.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Right at the end, did he actually like missed did
- 14:03Speaker 4: he mean to like stop and do another take? Because
- 14:05Speaker 4: he like sort of caught himself And it wasn't even
- 14:07Speaker 4: just like the character sort of stumbling over what he
- 14:09Speaker 4: thought he was going to stay. It felt like it
- 14:11Speaker 4: was the actor hiccup thing on a line and.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Lieutenant Scott Yes, yes, I heard that too, Yeah yeah,
- 14:18Speaker 2: speaking of Robert Carlisle. And I don't know, because obviously
- 14:21Speaker 2: I watched the episode before we had our break, so
- 14:24Speaker 2: I rewatched it last night, but only with the audio
- 14:26Speaker 2: commentary on. I had those bits and pieces. But something
- 14:29Speaker 2: they mentioned the auto commentary that I don't know if
- 14:30Speaker 2: it was obvious in the episode, Mitch, I guess you
- 14:34Speaker 2: being the first time watcher, apparently the skull that Rush
- 14:39Speaker 2: picks up on the planet is his own skull or
- 14:42Speaker 2: like the skull of another doctor.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Rush. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 14:50Speaker 4: I think like you're the you're the you're the new
- 14:52Speaker 4: comer that you were setting me up for something, right,
- 14:55Speaker 4: is it what I thought? I think by that say,
- 14:58Speaker 4: I was still trying to wrap my head around the
- 15:00Speaker 4: I did, because yeah, as a first time this was
- 15:02Speaker 4: a real sort of I mean, like you said, once
- 15:04Speaker 4: people started dying, but I even I can't remember who
- 15:07Speaker 4: got sort of you know, stabbed first or sort of
- 15:10Speaker 4: you know, burrowed into a little bit and and they
- 15:13Speaker 4: were just injured. At that point, I thought, okay, fine,
- 15:15Speaker 4: But then when it yeah, it when it hit Chloe
- 15:18Speaker 4: and she's in the ground and the keynotes next to
- 15:20Speaker 4: her and it's like bursting, I'm like, okay, well, clearly
- 15:22Speaker 4: this isn't happening. But then the next cut is you know,
- 15:26Speaker 4: them on the ship watching it, and I was just like,
- 15:28Speaker 4: what the fuck is going on? Like I just and
- 15:31Speaker 4: then like, yeah, we get the skull thing, and then
- 15:32Speaker 4: I was in you know, then obviously it was revealed. Okay,
- 15:35Speaker 4: there's another timeline that's already happened as well, or that
- 15:37Speaker 4: is in the process of happening, And it was just, yeah,
- 15:40Speaker 4: I don't actually think that I stopped to think about that, that.
- 15:43Speaker 3: It was that it was own.
- 15:45Speaker 4: I kind of I kind of liked that, and the
- 15:48Speaker 4: idea of like the thespian on the show being able
- 15:50Speaker 4: to hold up a little bit of like Shakespeare style
- 15:52Speaker 4: holding up a SKULLI.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Butratio the way, so which one of used the thespian, which
- 15:58Speaker 1: one I used? The Kino file both me. The thing
- 16:05Speaker 1: that cracked me up most about this episode was when
- 16:08Speaker 1: they were discussing what it was and like what was
- 16:11Speaker 1: happening and based on like a meta joke being in
- 16:16Speaker 1: the podcast, was this one.
- 16:18Speaker 6: Okay, what nah, how is this possible?
- 16:26Speaker 1: I don't know what about.
- 16:28Speaker 6: An alternate reality?
- 16:32Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, Maddie, So.
- 16:37Speaker 2: I think that was the what the blank like Mitchard
- 16:40Speaker 2: cut out, yeah, should have been.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a weird, like again, a strange episode
- 16:50Speaker 4: for us to have taken. If you are listening live,
- 16:52Speaker 4: uh and and you're sort of living through this rewatch
- 16:55Speaker 4: with us that this was the episode to come back
- 16:58Speaker 4: to because, like I said, for me, when I just
- 17:00Speaker 4: hit play and it was like, we're another season into
- 17:04Speaker 4: this show where they're just out there, just jump. They've
- 17:06Speaker 4: established a base and they're out they're exploring planets or
- 17:08Speaker 4: something where because every planet they've went onto so far
- 17:12Speaker 4: in the previous what seven episodes, it has been with
- 17:16Speaker 4: a real point to it and not their choice, and
- 17:20Speaker 4: we've been told as an audience why it's important, why
- 17:23Speaker 4: the ship might be taking them there or something like that.
- 17:25Speaker 1: So there, like you said, because I think that the
- 17:31Speaker 1: ship is alive, the ship knows that the water is infected,
- 17:35Speaker 1: and it stops off at that planet. That's not a
- 17:38Speaker 1: bad thought.
- 17:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I keep forgetting about that sort of thing,
- 17:42Speaker 4: because here I was just like, there's just that, I mean,
- 17:44Speaker 4: not even a hint, like a real hit of convenience
- 17:48Speaker 4: that an episode or two ago when they get this
- 17:51Speaker 4: water and oh it's making them sick, and they just
- 17:53Speaker 4: happen to get not only onto a planet, but there
- 17:55Speaker 4: is this creature on this planet that were not even
- 17:58Speaker 4: just a creature, but it's a creature that's hunting them.
- 17:59Speaker 4: So they have to go to like a lot of trouble,
- 18:01Speaker 4: and clearly they have to like go through two different
- 18:03Speaker 4: timelines to get to this.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I don't think anticipated that.
- 18:07Speaker 4: No, no, no, he thought they were better than that. Yeah,
- 18:09Speaker 4: thought he thought that was smarter.
- 18:11Speaker 1: But he that's disgusting, Mitchell.
- 18:16Speaker 3: So, guys, I'm so I'm so.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Sorry to anybody in the non binary community.
- 18:22Speaker 3: I'm very sorry.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:23Speaker 3: If anything, I was calling him.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Because traditionally, I feel like this ship has made stupid
- 18:27Speaker 4: decisions in the past, and that's why I referred to
- 18:29Speaker 4: it as heat.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Well, that's a great way to dig up there, Mitchell. Congratulations,
- 18:34Speaker 2: thank you.
- 18:35Speaker 3: I've done it before.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Mate, obviously, you know, Brendan was just saying that, you know,
- 18:38Speaker 2: it's it's traditionally ships are known as a she, and
- 18:42Speaker 2: I've known plenty of strippers named Destiny.
- 18:44Speaker 1: So that's why I'll tell you what.
- 18:50Speaker 2: He's really not doing anything to make me like him
- 18:52Speaker 2: more this watch around. But Grea really got on my
- 18:55Speaker 2: nerves this episode one. It was the playing the music obnoxiously.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I was like, bro, it's it should be plain etiquette,
- 19:03Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know what I mean, And then yeah,
- 19:06Speaker 2: and then the douchey goods good, And I was like, oh,
- 19:11Speaker 2: what eighties cliche are we living right now? Like what
- 19:16Speaker 2: what tertiary.
- 19:19Speaker 13: Young?
- 19:19Speaker 3: Like?
- 19:20Speaker 4: Give us, yeah, give us a little bit of predator
- 19:22Speaker 4: like allowance because of how dense that Big props them
- 19:25Speaker 4: as well, Like when we went to like you know,
- 19:28Speaker 4: foresty areas or jungle, they've never been quite as thick
- 19:31Speaker 4: and dense as this was a real either packed in
- 19:34Speaker 4: set or the location was really good, you know when
- 19:38Speaker 4: when they first arrived and it was sort of shot
- 19:40Speaker 4: from above at an angle, and like are they trying
- 19:41Speaker 4: to hide this, you know, the the studio walls or whatnot.
- 19:44Speaker 4: But I liked how different it was, and I'm like, Okay,
- 19:48Speaker 4: well it's still you know, obviously breathe of at atmosphere
- 19:50Speaker 4: and there's green trees and leaves and a lot sort.
- 19:52Speaker 3: Of stuff out there.
- 19:53Speaker 4: But it did look different than those planets that were visited,
- 19:58Speaker 4: very much the same on SG one and an SGA.
- 20:00Speaker 4: But at the same time, like you were saying, the
- 20:04Speaker 4: narrative style was very singular, which is not what this
- 20:09Speaker 4: show does. And it definitely the ending definitely caught me too.
- 20:13Speaker 4: I Here, I was thinking I'd missed an episode prior
- 20:16Speaker 4: to watching this, and then when this one finished and
- 20:18Speaker 4: it cut and I'm like, hang on what we have
- 20:20Speaker 4: but we haven't fixed it. And then I clicked to
- 20:22Speaker 4: the next episode and they were just on the ship
- 20:25Speaker 4: doing exercises or something, and I'm like, I've missed one again,
- 20:28Speaker 4: left the disc. I thought I'd done something wrong, So.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Why are they're on a low calorie that's right?
- 20:39Speaker 4: Yeah, so just yeah, different again, Like, yeah, I guess
- 20:41Speaker 4: this'd be a weird one to have come back to
- 20:43Speaker 4: for me and have to remember.
- 20:45Speaker 3: The style of this show as opposed.
- 20:47Speaker 4: To something like SG one, which I've been watching for
- 20:49Speaker 4: nearly thirty years and SGA, which have been watching for
- 20:51Speaker 4: the last five that yeah, this is such a continuous
- 20:54Speaker 4: story that yeah, the ending, it's not even like well
- 20:57Speaker 4: I was duped into it.
- 20:58Speaker 3: It's like, no, this show is really convinced me. That's
- 21:00Speaker 3: just what it does each and every It just it'll.
- 21:03Speaker 4: Be picked up next week, and you know, I haven't
- 21:05Speaker 4: watched next week's yet, but it feels like maybe we're
- 21:07Speaker 4: not going to talk about what happened that time that
- 21:10Speaker 4: they had timelines and all that, so.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Now all we get is that keynot that you just
- 21:15Speaker 1: suffered through. That's that's it.
- 21:17Speaker 2: I do feel like maybe it was probably unintentional because
- 21:21Speaker 2: Cooper wrote it, but it feels like at least the
- 21:24Speaker 2: crew have kind of learned their lesson a little bit,
- 21:26Speaker 2: because I feel like when we see them all coming
- 21:29Speaker 2: through the stargate at the start of this episode, my
- 21:31Speaker 2: first thought was, well, that's the sized team they should
- 21:33Speaker 2: have sent in Air Part three when I went to
- 21:35Speaker 2: the desert planet. That's how many people they should have
- 21:37Speaker 2: sent to search for shit. So I'm like, I guess
- 21:40Speaker 2: it's my own headcanon of me just being like, well, okay,
- 21:43Speaker 2: maybe that's the crew learning and going, oh, because of that,
- 21:47Speaker 2: let's send a much bigger team.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:49Speaker 1: So I assume the third time, like the third timeline,
- 21:53Speaker 1: they got collected fruit as well. Well, I think, because
- 21:58Speaker 1: that would be a waste of time, right, because you
- 22:00Speaker 1: couldn't make it back to Destiny before the solar Flare
- 22:06Speaker 1: reactivated with the wormhole.
- 22:08Speaker 12: I don't.
- 22:08Speaker 2: I think Cooper said there was maybe actually like four
- 22:11Speaker 2: or five or six timelines.
- 22:12Speaker 1: We just only saw a few of them, like shut
- 22:15Speaker 1: up because in the Keina unless that Keino people died too.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not not necessarily all of the crews
- 22:26Speaker 2: said the Keno, so like there was only two previous
- 22:28Speaker 2: Kinos or whatever. Yeah, Cooper was trying to say that
- 22:31Speaker 2: there was like multiples, mind you, and this is good.
- 22:34Speaker 2: This is going to hurt you, Brandan, this is really
- 22:35Speaker 2: going to hurt you because Cooper is going to use
- 22:37Speaker 2: something that is that means a lot to you. But
- 22:40Speaker 2: this is how this is how he tried to keep
- 22:43Speaker 2: track of everything was happening.
- 22:44Speaker 5: No, I mean, you know, it's this the story.
- 22:48Speaker 1: This story was.
- 22:50Speaker 5: One that I you know, it's probably the most you know,
- 22:55Speaker 5: and my brain hurt when I when I wrote the
- 22:57Speaker 5: line to do where I said, you know, this is
- 22:59Speaker 5: making my ain't heard that that was me speaking on
- 23:03Speaker 5: you know, about myself on the page. And I did
- 23:07Speaker 5: actually had to do a spreadsheet, like I opened up.
- 23:10Speaker 5: I've never really used my spreadsheet software on my computer,
- 23:12Speaker 5: and I had to figure out how to use a spreadsheet.
- 23:16Speaker 5: And then I had to do a spreadsheet to figure
- 23:20Speaker 5: out the timeline here, to figure out you know, who's
- 23:22Speaker 5: getting sick when on the planet, who's getting sick when
- 23:25Speaker 5: on the ship, make sure those things matched up it
- 23:29Speaker 5: and then and then you know, then you go back
- 23:31Speaker 5: and you start layering things in like you know, oh wait,
- 23:33Speaker 5: if they were on the planet, maybe they found Russia's
- 23:36Speaker 5: remains and maybe he's actually digging up and holding a skull.
- 23:40Speaker 5: As you rewrite, you go back and you add those details.
- 23:44Speaker 2: But like, very good, now, Brandon, you're a spreadsheet, a
- 23:46Speaker 2: file on top of being a KNOI file and a
- 23:49Speaker 2: Espian I wonder what that is spreadsheet to fall sorry,
- 23:54Speaker 2: an excel file? How hell old Gator? He said in
- 24:01Speaker 2: that Gator's Got a Gate? He said that he had
- 24:05Speaker 2: to learn how to use his spreadsheet to then use
- 24:08Speaker 2: the spreadsheet to keep track, Like how why would you
- 24:11Speaker 2: use a spreadsheet of all things? And how would you
- 24:13Speaker 2: use a spreadsheet to keep track of I'd do a
- 24:16Speaker 2: timeline use, I'd use a whiteboard, Yeah right, Like I
- 24:20Speaker 2: I'd be very interested to see what that spreadsheet actually
- 24:23Speaker 2: looks like. It'd be the scribblings of a crazy man,
- 24:28Speaker 2: any ideas.
- 24:28Speaker 4: Mitch, I feel like you're being far more generous, going,
- 24:31Speaker 4: oh why is he using this particular you know, program
- 24:35Speaker 4: or way of thinking. It's like he just detailed the
- 24:37Speaker 4: fact that he had to write an episode and understand
- 24:40Speaker 4: it himself, and I'm like, are you are you teaching
- 24:42Speaker 4: yourself that you're a writer like you. I had to
- 24:44Speaker 4: write this thing and then you rewrite it, and I
- 24:47Speaker 4: had to I had to understand it before I could
- 24:49Speaker 4: finish writing. And I'm like, yeah, that's what writing is.
- 24:52Speaker 3: You dick.
- 24:52Speaker 2: And he admitted in He admitted in two thousand and
- 24:55Speaker 2: nine that he didn't know how to use a spreadsheet.
- 24:58Speaker 1: That's wild. And I don't know any of the calculations.
- 25:02Speaker 1: What do you call it? The sums and ship I
- 25:04Speaker 1: can do a few. I can do a few, used
- 25:05Speaker 1: to when I was in high school. But that's about it. Yeah,
- 25:08Speaker 1: Now it's just for ranking Gate episodes. Oh god.
- 25:11Speaker 2: I remember in tenth grade thinking like learning how to
- 25:15Speaker 2: use PowerPoint and thinking it would be something that I'd
- 25:18Speaker 2: be using in my everyday life. I have not used
- 25:20Speaker 2: PowerPoint since I've made my PowerPoint presentation in tenth grade.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Same as the.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Old was that the cause sign and tan on your calculator,
- 25:29Speaker 2: like we spent four months learning how to use those.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Since grade down, I haven't used it. Yeah, and the
- 25:33Speaker 1: Pythagoras theorem or whatever. Actually I use that quite a bit.
- 25:41Speaker 4: Obviously, use PowerPoint all the time. When we were making
- 25:44Speaker 4: high movies, that's how we've really our opening credits. Yeah,
- 25:48Speaker 4: we do credits, and we just used the camcorder and
- 25:50Speaker 4: film the computer screen.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Excellent, there's no other way. Back then it wasn't.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know Cooper is gonna obviously he himself
- 26:00Speaker 2: how to use spreadsheets and he uses all the fence
- 26:02Speaker 2: technology just because of how much more intelligent he is
- 26:05Speaker 2: than the rest of us talking about it.
- 26:09Speaker 5: Well, you know, it became a question of how this
- 26:13Speaker 5: story in a way is quite complicated for the average
- 26:17Speaker 5: viewer to sort of try and figure out the the
- 26:22Speaker 5: you know, the time loop storyline.
- 26:25Speaker 2: We don't have the benefit of a spreadsheet in front
- 26:27Speaker 2: of us while we're watching it.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I mean I found it. I I kind of predicted
- 26:33Speaker 1: a lot, but that's just because I've watched Signation. Yeah,
- 26:37Speaker 1: just knowing that the you know, the the gate itself,
- 26:43Speaker 1: the wormhole can be can distab can be unstable when
- 26:47Speaker 1: there's a work, when there's a solar flare. Actually, is
- 26:51Speaker 1: that the first time we've seeing this unstable with the
- 26:53Speaker 1: solo flair to find unstable when it goes No, I
- 26:58Speaker 1: feel like it did that in nine in six, you know, well,
- 27:01Speaker 1: there was there was at least something that the gate disappeared.
- 27:05Speaker 1: But even just like the the traveling through the Gate,
- 27:07Speaker 1: I feel like it. Well, there was Torment of Tantalus
- 27:10Speaker 1: that did that. Oh yeah, there was that.
- 27:13Speaker 2: But yeah, it's certainly more than a it was an unstable,
- 27:17Speaker 2: complex story. Like no, as soon as the like I said,
- 27:22Speaker 2: but as soon as the main character dies, one of
- 27:24Speaker 2: the main characters died, I was just like, oh, okay,
- 27:26Speaker 2: so these aren't the real ones. And then the next
- 27:28Speaker 2: one around, Chloe dies, and okay, so these aren't real ones.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:33Speaker 2: The only surprise was that we didn't see the ending.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which is like surprise, come back next week too.
- 27:40Speaker 1: You'll figure it out. That's the thing. If it's very complicated,
- 27:43Speaker 1: why didn't you put an ending on it?
- 27:44Speaker 10: Yeah? Right?
- 27:46Speaker 3: Because who spreadsheet?
- 27:48Speaker 1: Who was closure to a story?
- 27:49Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 27:50Speaker 2: He didn't learn how to scroll down the spreadsheet. He
- 27:52Speaker 2: thought the spreadsheet only had twelve bars to it, so
- 27:54Speaker 2: he couldn't go any further down.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I would have preferred it if they had
- 27:59Speaker 1: had Chloe die like pre credits ooh.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Because then it's a how are they going to get
- 28:04Speaker 2: out of this? Not what are they getting out of?
- 28:06Speaker 1: Yeah? Not like oh, halfway through the episode, you're like, oh, okay,
- 28:10Speaker 1: yeah they're not That wasn't real. There was a waste
- 28:12Speaker 1: of fifteen minutes, so I didn't mind. I didn't mind
- 28:17Speaker 1: the twist. I liked the twist, but then didn't have
- 28:19Speaker 1: an ending, so I'm okay.
- 28:22Speaker 4: I think I was disappointed in the moment because I
- 28:26Speaker 4: just expected it to be part of the next episode,
- 28:29Speaker 4: as this season, as this series has taught me so far.
- 28:32Speaker 4: But then when it wasn't, I thought, you know what,
- 28:35Speaker 4: that's just me being a view that needs that, and
- 28:39Speaker 4: I guess what are we going to We've already seen
- 28:42Speaker 4: the core sort of timeline that we were watching that
- 28:45Speaker 4: discovered the first Kenot. We've seen them learn and react
- 28:48Speaker 4: to stuff and have to try and adapt, and they
- 28:51Speaker 4: did adapt to some things, but then there were new
- 28:54Speaker 4: variables that they they couldn't adapt to, and then it
- 28:57Speaker 4: was like, okay, but now we've got to go for
- 28:59Speaker 4: the real how mayor and try and save our past
- 29:01Speaker 4: selves again. It's like, well, we know what they were
- 29:04Speaker 4: going to do with that, because they've they've recorded what
- 29:06Speaker 4: they're telling the past selves to do, so we just
- 29:11Speaker 4: need to see the message that Scott sends back, and
- 29:14Speaker 4: then it's kind of I guess the end of it
- 29:17Speaker 4: mobis where they they see the cam cord of footage
- 29:20Speaker 4: and O'Neill's is like, huh, how about that and.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Then hung them black.
- 29:24Speaker 4: You know, it was kind of like, wow, all that
- 29:25Speaker 4: we watched two episodes of this like amazing time travel
- 29:28Speaker 4: thing where like the future got fucked, and then the
- 29:32Speaker 4: payoff is just them sitting there watching it on like this,
- 29:34Speaker 4: you know, forty two centimeter TV tube television.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Go oh well, I guess we won't do that.
- 29:39Speaker 4: Cut the credits and it's like, oh, that's kind of funny,
- 29:42Speaker 4: but we don't even get fishing.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Yeah, think imagine if you're right, it's that's the one
- 29:51Speaker 1: that's right.
- 29:51Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Imagine if imagine if movie has ended at part one
- 29:55Speaker 2: where the jumpers covered over with sand and they just
- 29:58Speaker 2: walk away into the into this into the desert, and
- 30:01Speaker 2: then it just cuts to black, and then to find
- 30:03Speaker 2: out what happened next, you have to watch a DVD
- 30:05Speaker 2: special feature.
- 30:06Speaker 1: That would be crazy. Yeah, that would be crazy. Oh
- 30:09Speaker 1: look we found his VM. Yeah, I have to bring
- 30:13Speaker 1: it up. I feel like it's probably going to be a.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Patreon exclusive thing that we're gonna have to because it's
- 30:18Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna go long. But also I feel like
- 30:21Speaker 2: we've probably already done versions of this on the Patreon already.
- 30:25Speaker 2: But Eli brings up his top five Desert Island movies Hackers,
- 30:31Speaker 2: which I've never seen.
- 30:31Speaker 1: It's a usually jolly movie.
- 30:33Speaker 3: Apparently, that's right, Yeah, mid nineties or something.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Yeah, the matrix old School, Old School is great, it's
- 30:41Speaker 1: not top five. Yeah, Star Wars.
- 30:43Speaker 2: But if a trilogy counts as a single movie, which
- 30:46Speaker 2: obviously it doesn't, eat like, he chooses Empire. I mean
- 30:49Speaker 2: it's his own game because he's a fucking cuck, and
- 30:51Speaker 2: of course he chooses Empire, and then good Will you
- 30:57Speaker 2: choose good Will, Hunting Ghetto, Last Jedi obviously obviously last year.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Those three, If you had to pick one, what are
- 31:07Speaker 3: you going for? Return of the Jedi?
- 31:09Speaker 1: Uh, it'd be a toss up between a New Hope
- 31:12Speaker 1: and Return of the Jedi.
- 31:13Speaker 14: Mm hmmm.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Yeah, because obviously the original Star Wars is original Star Wars.
- 31:18Speaker 2: I love, I love me some Ewoks.
- 31:20Speaker 3: And yet I guess to get the closure.
- 31:24Speaker 1: M yeah, the prequels could have been better.
- 31:26Speaker 2: But anyway, so that's well, that's that's my question to
- 31:30Speaker 2: you guys is watch what's your what's your top five
- 31:32Speaker 2: desert island movies?
- 31:34Speaker 1: You know they take five.
- 31:35Speaker 2: At first, when the way Eli explained it, I thought
- 31:37Speaker 2: it was going to be five movies about being on
- 31:39Speaker 2: a desert island.
- 31:40Speaker 1: But no, he means, yeah, it means five. I thought, yeah,
- 31:44Speaker 1: five movies.
- 31:45Speaker 3: He put the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable exactly. Well,
- 31:49Speaker 3: he thought, that's what he meant.
- 31:50Speaker 2: If only he had, if only he had a great
- 31:53Speaker 2: director to just tell him to just do it a
- 31:55Speaker 2: different way, just give him.
- 31:56Speaker 1: A couple of the line readings recently in the Clint
- 32:02Speaker 1: Eastwood Camp one take, Oh yeah, like Eli got to
- 32:07Speaker 1: give it to Eli. He's one hell of a filmmaker,
- 32:09Speaker 1: because he like the Keino itself died so it couldn't
- 32:14Speaker 1: fly anymore, but it was still recording. And then he
- 32:17Speaker 1: put it on a rock to show himself taping it
- 32:20Speaker 1: to a helmet. Yeah, that's impressive. That was impressive. And
- 32:28Speaker 1: then the mud went onto the kenot and he's like, oh,
- 32:31Speaker 1: it's on your head and you know it's got muddlement.
- 32:34Speaker 1: He's that good. He's so good.
- 32:36Speaker 3: He's aware, very good.
- 32:39Speaker 1: So camera aware.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's the equivalent of you know how some
- 32:42Speaker 2: people can fit like a billiard ball in their mouth.
- 32:45Speaker 2: He already knows that he can fit a keino in
- 32:46Speaker 2: his mouth. That's too much time he spends with a kino,
- 32:49Speaker 2: not just in his mouth, exactly. If I shove it
- 32:52Speaker 2: up my ass, I can fly?
- 32:53Speaker 1: Yeah? How many? How many? How many?
- 32:57Speaker 2: It's like it's like a he ties them together, like
- 32:59Speaker 2: the biggest string of anal beads you've ever seen, And
- 33:02Speaker 2: there's like, how.
- 33:02Speaker 1: Many can I do have to fit up here before
- 33:04Speaker 1: I can fly?
- 33:05Speaker 2: And and you can see he's running around Atlanta, He's
- 33:08Speaker 2: running around Destiny just just quoting Peter Pan, think happy thoughts.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Chloe walks in and he's just he's like, it's an experiment,
- 33:20Speaker 4: where as he's science.
- 33:22Speaker 2: As he's shoving the keynotes up his ass, he's going
- 33:24Speaker 2: think happy thoughts, Think happy thoughts. So yeah, so, so
- 33:29Speaker 2: what's What's What's What's your? Five Desert Island movies?
- 33:33Speaker 1: Austin Powers, obviously obviously International Mystery, The Original, The original,
- 33:42Speaker 1: I imagine one of Mitch's double O seven races just tell.
- 33:46Speaker 2: You based on based on the rules that Eli established,
- 33:51Speaker 2: though Mitch might be able to consider taking the entire
- 33:55Speaker 2: double oh seven back catalog is one film it.
- 34:00Speaker 1: If I could get franchises one film, sure, rings obviously
- 34:04Speaker 1: and if only one two towers. Helm's Deep Baby.
- 34:10Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very hard to go past the greatest fight ever.
- 34:12Speaker 1: I mean deep, how can you go wrong?
- 34:15Speaker 2: I mean, have you have you seen Pericard of Tanagra
- 34:20Speaker 2: at Jelade, Like that's a pretty epic fight.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Did you say, did you speak anything English?
- 34:24Speaker 5: Then?
- 34:24Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything. Hear any of that?
- 34:28Speaker 3: You're talking under water? Yeah? Good? Cool.
- 34:31Speaker 1: I don't know if he said that. I don't know
- 34:33Speaker 1: if it was track or not. Yeah, Yeah, that was
- 34:36Speaker 1: you know, the one where the species of people that
- 34:38Speaker 1: only speak in in metaphor. He's stuck on the planet
- 34:42Speaker 1: with the That's right, Darmak, Darnmuck and Jelada Tagra and
- 34:46Speaker 1: he dies. Yeah. Spoiler boiler alert for.
- 34:49Speaker 2: A episode from nineteen eighty nine or nineteen ninety one
- 34:52Speaker 2: or something. You know you yeah, to cut you off,
- 34:55Speaker 2: but yeah, Brave Heart will definitely.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Want to Race's Brave Heart. I'd have to go.
- 35:03Speaker 4: I struggle enough because I'm on letterbox, you know that,
- 35:06Speaker 4: like the film bro Social media and you have to
- 35:10Speaker 4: have like the top four. I ha only had two
- 35:13Speaker 4: up there for a long time, and I threw a
- 35:14Speaker 4: third one in for a laugh a couple of weeks ago.
- 35:17Speaker 4: That's like, by no means like the greatest film or
- 35:20Speaker 4: anywhere near a list that says the greatest films. And
- 35:22Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, this is pivotal to me.
- 35:24Speaker 4: I don't care. I give me a wank. I've got
- 35:26Speaker 4: up Lord of the Rings, Return of the King, I've
- 35:27Speaker 4: got Jurassic Park.
- 35:29Speaker 3: And then I threw in.
- 35:30Speaker 4: The Phantom because I'm like that shit changed, like literally
- 35:32Speaker 4: changed my life. It like put me on so many
- 35:35Speaker 4: different paths that put me onto different paths beyond that.
- 35:38Speaker 4: And then I've actually thought about Old School because that's
- 35:40Speaker 4: one of my go to comedies. I'm like, if I
- 35:41Speaker 4: was going to put up a comedy that never fails
- 35:43Speaker 4: to make me laugh, like it's the first time I've
- 35:45Speaker 4: watched it?
- 35:46Speaker 1: Pretty great from Yeah, although you say it's modern, but
- 35:50Speaker 1: that was like two thousand and nine, wasn't.
- 35:51Speaker 3: It twosand and five wedding crashes? Isn't that?
- 35:55Speaker 1: Old School was probably two thousand and nine, wasn't it?
- 35:57Speaker 8: Now?
- 35:58Speaker 4: That was one oh really going out and that might
- 36:01Speaker 4: be Old three. I think that's Stay three.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I'd have to go Firefly. It's definitely there.
- 36:07Speaker 1: I had down for you Serenity in Days of Future Past.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Oh yes, yep, Batman returns Nice for a comedy slash action.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Migna and Kylie Minogan roll Juliet in Street Fighter. I
- 36:27Speaker 2: love that you know her from mainly Nah that was
- 36:30Speaker 2: that was. She was my first childhood crush, MiG Nah,
- 36:33Speaker 2: because Chuntley is my girl. When I play Street Fighter,
- 36:35Speaker 2: I exclusively played I'm a Chunley guy because of her.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Uh no, no, the game first, and then she was in
- 36:42Speaker 2: that movie and Nice.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Hello, we're talking Are we talking live action crushes or
- 36:47Speaker 1: animated crushes? Live action?
- 36:50Speaker 2: I never had a crush on animated chant l but
- 36:52Speaker 2: I had a crush on mi Nah Migna in that
- 36:54Speaker 2: red outfit with the with the studded brist wrist cuffs.
- 36:57Speaker 2: I was like, that unlocked something in me that I'm
- 36:59Speaker 2: still dealing with as a forty year old.
- 37:02Speaker 1: And I reckon. The fifth one I think would have
- 37:05Speaker 1: to be Power Rangers, the movie that is so good. Yeah,
- 37:09Speaker 1: feld say.
- 37:09Speaker 2: That that's a good movie that slaps I could. I
- 37:12Speaker 2: could quite have watched it for thirty years, but that's
- 37:14Speaker 2: really I watch it. I'll watch it twice a year.
- 37:18Speaker 2: So good, it's so good that that's I actually bought
- 37:20Speaker 2: the film the what you got the soundtrack, the soundtrack
- 37:23Speaker 2: to that movie slap you.
- 37:25Speaker 3: Actually, we're gonna say you brought the film copy, like
- 37:27Speaker 3: you've got a real.
- 37:29Speaker 1: It would be awesome.
- 37:31Speaker 2: Well, actually I do have an ex friend of mine
- 37:35Speaker 2: bought the bought some negatives, like the Polaroid negatives or
- 37:39Speaker 2: whatever of costume test shots from Batman and Robin. So
- 37:46Speaker 2: he's got the original negatives of like photos like promo
- 37:49Speaker 2: photos of Source Niggers, Mister Freeze and Poison Ivy, and.
- 37:55Speaker 1: So he gave me a couple.
- 37:56Speaker 2: I've got a couple of shots of Chris so donald
- 38:00Speaker 2: as as Robin. Of these promo shots, they're they're pretty sick,
- 38:06Speaker 2: and they're all like they're untouched, like they haven't been
- 38:08Speaker 2: airbrush and stuff yet. So you can see like creases
- 38:11Speaker 2: and crunches in the in the costume and stuff like that,
- 38:15Speaker 2: and you can see like tape holding bits together, and yeah,
- 38:18Speaker 2: it's pretty sick.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Chris o' donald's mad, Robin. I would have to say
- 38:22Speaker 1: more modern, I'd say Fury with Brad Pitt seen it.
- 38:26Speaker 1: It's one of the best war movies ever. The Count
- 38:29Speaker 1: of Monte Cristo.
- 38:32Speaker 2: That's I'm thinking of Leonard DiCaprio Man in the Iron Mask,
- 38:37Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking of.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Very similar films. And there's a couple of time cruise movies,
- 38:43Speaker 1: a Few Good Men, and Edge of Tomorrow. I'll toss
- 38:46Speaker 1: up between those interests. I feel like if it's a
- 38:50Speaker 1: if it's a desert.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Island situation, Edge of Tomorrow I think would be hard
- 38:55Speaker 2: for me because it's the the repetitiveness that would be
- 38:59Speaker 2: that would be tough. But a Few Good Men is solid.
- 39:02Speaker 1: See. I would like something which I would like to memorize,
- 39:06Speaker 1: Like if you wanted to memorize film.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Have you seen that people on TikTok and stuff like
- 39:10Speaker 2: that where they just like they're on their laptop and
- 39:12Speaker 2: they turn their laptop around to the camera so like
- 39:14Speaker 2: you and they're just spoken word like it could be
- 39:17Speaker 2: a scene from the Real Housewives or a scene from
- 39:21Speaker 2: a movie and they're just saying it verbatim.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Yeah. I could have done that with Austin Bowers back
- 39:26Speaker 1: in the day. Easy. I can I can do I
- 39:28Speaker 1: can do one. Which is which is You're right? I
- 39:31Speaker 1: am angry.
- 39:31Speaker 2: I'm damned angry. He's a staff lead captain. He's decided
- 39:34Speaker 2: to abandon everything this uniform stands for. He's out there
- 39:37Speaker 2: right now torturing and murdering innocent life forms just to
- 39:40Speaker 2: get home a little quicker, and I'm not going to
- 39:42Speaker 2: stand for it. I'm gonna hunt him down, no matter
- 39:44Speaker 2: how long it takes, no matter what the cost.
- 39:46Speaker 1: If you want to call that a vendetta, go right ahead.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that was great. Will you will you
- 39:56Speaker 1: try to gesture to have my fader brought down there? Mitchell?
- 39:59Speaker 3: Can I see a you're josing a button that I
- 40:01Speaker 3: didn't have.
- 40:01Speaker 4: You know, when you drive with somebody and they don't
- 40:03Speaker 4: like you're driving, so they're like putting the brake on
- 40:04Speaker 4: in the passenger. See um, yeah, I was doing that,
- 40:08Speaker 4: but I knew, I new Brendon wouldn't miss it.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to do that, not even
- 40:12Speaker 1: you were going to miss that one.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Like, no, not at all. I was just waiting to
- 40:15Speaker 4: get through it. I'm glad I didn't do mine. I
- 40:17Speaker 4: Reckon back in like the early tooth out. I could
- 40:19Speaker 4: recite the first of all movies. I could recite the
- 40:22Speaker 4: first fifteen, maybe twenty minutes of Shrek no like words
- 40:26Speaker 4: for word, playing different characters.
- 40:27Speaker 3: It was probably set songs and ship. I don't know why.
- 40:30Speaker 2: I think I've said it on this podcast before, but
- 40:32Speaker 2: I can do the wrap from TLC's Waterfalls.
- 40:34Speaker 1: You have done it on the podcast. I've done it
- 40:35Speaker 1: on the podcast.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hear that song now without hearing you
- 40:39Speaker 3: do that.
- 40:39Speaker 2: The episode and Lincoln goes the chaining. No it's not,
- 40:43Speaker 2: is it. Oh that's amazing, okay, brilliant. Actually, what did
- 40:48Speaker 2: you send through to us in the group chat the
- 40:49Speaker 2: other day? The uncut what a bitch called the unhinged
- 40:53Speaker 2: edit for Ethon? Oh yeah, that that was amazing. Yeah,
- 40:57Speaker 2: that was amazing just to.
- 41:01Speaker 4: Oh really, I was very I don't know what I
- 41:04Speaker 4: was doing that day. I had no chance to listen
- 41:06Speaker 4: to it, and actually forgot you'd sent that through.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Saw have to do that?
- 41:08Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jumped Dark Confluence Slash, Get in the gate
- 41:14Speaker 1: and listen to Ethon. It's a ship episode, A bit
- 41:18Speaker 1: of funny podcast.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Mit Mitch nailed, just nailed the title when he calls
- 41:23Speaker 2: it the unhinged at it.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Yeah, it was extremely unhinged. Holy holy from Lonnie.
- 41:29Speaker 2: If you don't don't listen, do not do not listen, Holly,
- 41:35Speaker 2: we we beg of you.
- 41:37Speaker 1: We beg Hey.
- 41:38Speaker 4: There is a there's a moment I've got behind because
- 41:41Speaker 4: we're obviously separated, I've got it on behind me. I was,
- 41:45Speaker 4: you know, I'd forgotten something of the episode. I've got
- 41:47Speaker 4: a plane behind the computer that I'm talking to you on,
- 41:49Speaker 4: and just during that last bit, I saw something about
- 41:52Speaker 4: five minutes into the episode and look, you know it's
- 41:55Speaker 4: it's totally human. I've just sent it through to the group.
- 41:57Speaker 4: But there's that moment before they first get attacked the first.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Night, and.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Eli and Rush underneath a cover staying dry rain, and
- 42:08Speaker 4: then Rush leaves, and then Eli's looking back at the
- 42:12Speaker 4: keynote and then it looks like he's jacking off in
- 42:16Speaker 4: front of it. If you just want to look at
- 42:17Speaker 4: the video that I've just sent you, I believe.
- 42:19Speaker 2: That is the that's the five Desert Island Movies moment too.
- 42:25Speaker 3: Actually probably was the end of that.
- 42:26Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like Eli they looked at the camera
- 42:28Speaker 4: and just a little bit like, yeah, I've finally got
- 42:31Speaker 4: a couple of seconds to myself.
- 42:37Speaker 2: I mean, it says a lot about how Mitchell Jack's off,
- 42:41Speaker 2: but I see it.
- 42:42Speaker 1: I see it.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Small movements, mate, Yes, it's my movement. Hiding under a
- 42:46Speaker 2: blanket so no one can see it, but preferably outside
- 42:50Speaker 2: in the rain.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I will say though, like Eli was waffling
- 42:57Speaker 1: a lot in this episode, and to the point where
- 42:59Speaker 1: I'm like Scott and a bunch of others are dying
- 43:02Speaker 1: in a cave. Yeah, and you're waffling. Imagine dying slowly
- 43:06Speaker 1: in a cave, billions of miles from home and having
- 43:09Speaker 1: to listen to this naive little turd Reveali's most basic
- 43:14Speaker 1: philosophical concepts. Listen to this see if you get bored.
- 43:18Speaker 14: I remember as a kid, I was I don't know,
- 43:22Speaker 14: maybe seven or eight, my grandfather died and my parents
- 43:26Speaker 14: took me to the funeral, watching his casket getting.
- 43:30Speaker 6: Lowered into the ground.
- 43:31Speaker 15: It was the first time that I realized I was
- 43:34Speaker 15: going to die one day. I mean, I knew people died,
- 43:38Speaker 15: and I'm talking about the idea that my consciousness was
- 43:42Speaker 15: going to end. I wasn't going to see what happened
- 43:45Speaker 15: in the world. It was such an empty.
- 43:51Speaker 7: Dark feeling, like I was falling down a pitch black hole.
- 43:55Speaker 6: It was scared the crab out of me. Then fear
- 44:01Speaker 6: was almost too much to handle. I guess maybe I
- 44:04Speaker 6: just get used.
- 44:05Speaker 7: To it scared me just as much every time.
- 44:10Speaker 6: Just shut up for a second.
- 44:12Speaker 8: Most people realize the wrong mortality is some stage of
- 44:14Speaker 8: the gaming lion.
- 44:15Speaker 12: It's not a particularly unique experience. I know.
- 44:20Speaker 1: It is weird to pair that with like.
- 44:24Speaker 2: The other Eli talking about how you know, his mum's
- 44:28Speaker 2: got HIV and all that kind of stuff as well.
- 44:30Speaker 1: It's like whoa, okay, all right, heavy stuff.
- 44:33Speaker 2: And then meanwhile on the planet it's the equivalent of
- 44:36Speaker 2: like if Statler and Waldorf were commenting on Lem's rab
- 44:40Speaker 2: or something like that. It's just it's Lem Statler and Waldorf.
- 44:44Speaker 2: That's the two old guys from the Muppets, you know,
- 44:47Speaker 2: guys that sit there and like make crack jokes.
- 44:48Speaker 1: It's like or it's like.
- 44:50Speaker 2: If they if they were common doing an audio commentary
- 44:52Speaker 2: on Philadelphia while Tom Hanks is dying of AIDS.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Which she's from Philadelphia. Who Mary Ann Wallace really yeah,
- 45:01Speaker 1: originally from Philadelphia. Eli's mum marian Wallace aka Catherine Languid
- 45:06Speaker 1: Langford three out of four Philadelphia born and raised. You
- 45:09Speaker 1: son of a bitch. Marianne or Mary as their friends
- 45:14Speaker 1: call her. She's an environmentalist I've done on my research. Way,
- 45:19Speaker 1: we're talking about the actress or the character. The character.
- 45:21Speaker 1: I thought she was a nurse. She was, but then
- 45:23Speaker 1: she got full blown AIDS and she had to quit.
- 45:25Speaker 2: She got V not okay, Remember the song is a
- 45:28Speaker 2: difference than not HIV bud full blown AIDS. Come on, family,
- 45:34Speaker 2: guy's been teaching you that since the two thousands.
- 45:37Speaker 1: I was on the South Park one the other day.
- 45:39Speaker 1: She rides her bike to work. She's a vegetarian. My
- 45:44Speaker 1: mother had wheels. She would have admitt a bake. And
- 45:48Speaker 1: her username on astrology dot com is Mary at marymon
- 45:51Speaker 1: thirty eight.
- 45:52Speaker 6: What where?
- 45:53Speaker 1: What we're just reading it? This from Marianne worked as
- 45:58Speaker 1: a nurse when Eli was four. She was accidentally infected
- 46:03Speaker 1: with HR Sure the air quotes were it in there?
- 46:05Speaker 1: What you're reading? But what she was stuck by needle
- 46:09Speaker 1: trying to restrain a junkie and that's why Eli's dad left.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Are we buying that? Okay?
- 46:14Speaker 2: But are we buying that she had an AOL chat
- 46:16Speaker 2: name and that we know what it is?
- 46:18Speaker 1: Like, what I just made all this up? Oh my god.
- 46:21Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, are.
- 46:22Speaker 2: We you This is a callback early in the episode
- 46:27Speaker 2: when we spoke about gas lighting. But yeah, Eli said
- 46:33Speaker 2: that my dad couldn't handle that she had HIV, so
- 46:37Speaker 2: we just bounced he dipped. Are we buying that that's
- 46:41Speaker 2: the reason he left?
- 46:43Speaker 12: Do we know?
- 46:44Speaker 1: I mean, statistically speaking, is it likely that she got
- 46:48Speaker 1: AIDS in hospital HIV? Sorry in hospital?
- 46:52Speaker 2: Yes, you can get if she she got stuck by
- 46:55Speaker 2: a needle that had jabbed someone with HIV, she could
- 46:59Speaker 2: get it right.
- 47:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. But all I'm saying is the
- 47:05Speaker 1: junkies just leave them in their arms. I guess so, well, No,
- 47:08Speaker 1: I meant.
- 47:09Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going off an episode of Scrubs, which
- 47:11Speaker 2: is where something similar happened, where it's like they've gone
- 47:15Speaker 2: to take a take a blood out of the junkie
- 47:17Speaker 2: he's bucked and winnied or whatever, and then she's got
- 47:21Speaker 2: stuck with that needle that had just taken blood out
- 47:24Speaker 2: of him.
- 47:25Speaker 1: Yeah. While I'm just saying, I would like to speculate
- 47:29Speaker 1: that that's not why Eli's dad left.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Are you Are we saying it's because Eli is Eli
- 47:34Speaker 2: Are We're saying it's because Mary's Mary.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Could be that. But I'm speculating that Mary well Mary
- 47:40Speaker 1: because Mary was doing a nursing course down in South
- 47:43Speaker 1: Africa and she got absolutely run a train on by
- 47:47Speaker 1: two mother. That's what I think.
- 47:52Speaker 2: And you know there is there is a history of
- 47:56Speaker 2: Mary's lying about having sex with people and then claiming
- 48:01Speaker 2: the sun is someone else.
- 48:03Speaker 1: So it's what's the worst could happen?
- 48:06Speaker 12: Right?
- 48:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's not going to be any like
- 48:08Speaker 2: Holy Walls over anything like that. Over a simple lie
- 48:11Speaker 2: about a young woman getting about.
- 48:15Speaker 1: At Mary Moon thirty eight, she asked me. So she
- 48:32Speaker 1: loves it, She loves getting in the.
- 48:40Speaker 2: And this is what happens when Brendan gets the soundboard.
- 48:46Speaker 1: That that whole bit was just so you could use
- 48:49Speaker 1: the bleep, wasn't it.
- 48:49Speaker 2: When you found that bleep function, the little cogs in
- 48:53Speaker 2: your brain started turning, What can I use this for?
- 48:55Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody Mary, I'm pretty sure you lie. Bumbs are
- 49:01Speaker 1: well not any more anyway, No, not anymore. She wants
- 49:04Speaker 1: to be Lord.
- 49:07Speaker 4: Episodes ago, a couple of episodes together that we were
- 49:10Speaker 4: saying that, you know, she tried to crack onto Eli
- 49:13Speaker 4: when he is in the body the soldier, Like, you know.
- 49:18Speaker 1: You don't meant to do this. She was like, I
- 49:21Speaker 1: mean my friend John. No, he wasn't. His name was John.
- 49:24Speaker 1: He wasn't a John. Ah. Oh god. So there was
- 49:32Speaker 1: a bit there where Rush says the butcher, the butcher
- 49:37Speaker 1: Cassidy and Sundane's kid line m and I found it
- 49:41Speaker 1: interesting because I'd seen a clip on YouTube with the
- 49:45Speaker 1: Bafter Awards or something where he's doing an interview and
- 49:48Speaker 1: talking about his childhood. So I just figured I'll play
- 49:52Speaker 1: this bit still like a set up. It's not a setup.
- 49:56Speaker 2: This is you watching you watching BAFT clips of Robert Carlisle.
- 50:05Speaker 6: For a moment there, I thought we were in trouble.
- 50:08Speaker 6: Buch Cassidy in the Sundance Kid.
- 50:11Speaker 7: It's which his last line before he and Sundance run
- 50:15Speaker 7: out to face the Bolivians, one of my favorites too.
- 50:19Speaker 8: Well, wow, we do have something in common, after all.
- 50:23Speaker 12: I guess I started in this in this industry.
- 50:27Speaker 8: I suppose through chance, really, but it kind of goes
- 50:31Speaker 8: traces itself back to the early days. My father used
- 50:34Speaker 8: to take me to the cinema three four times a week,
- 50:37Speaker 8: so it was always always a cinephile, you know. The
- 50:40Speaker 8: one film profile influenced, maybe not influence, but impressed me
- 50:44Speaker 8: the most as a kid was The Magnificent Seven.
- 50:47Speaker 1: I loved it.
- 50:48Speaker 12: And now the.
- 50:49Speaker 8: Reason for that is going to the cinema, you know,
- 50:52Speaker 8: three four times a week. I was obviously going with
- 50:54Speaker 8: my father, and my father was a Western junkie. He
- 50:57Speaker 8: loved anything to do with the West.
- 50:58Speaker 1: He loved them.
- 50:59Speaker 8: So I've seen all all all the Westerns of the
- 51:02Speaker 8: sexties probably and in the late fifties too, and the
- 51:05Speaker 8: mcneficence seven for me was it was so honorable and
- 51:09Speaker 8: what they were doing was such a good thing. And you, Branna,
- 51:12Speaker 8: that started my love affair with you Branner. I thought
- 51:14Speaker 8: I wanted to be that guy. I want to be
- 51:16Speaker 8: the guy and it comes out of the darkness, solves people's.
- 51:18Speaker 12: Problems and raise off at the sunset. I love that.
- 51:22Speaker 8: So that was when in my early years and then
- 51:24Speaker 8: later on, you know, I mean talking really early years
- 51:26Speaker 8: is probably seven or eight, maybe early teenager.
- 51:29Speaker 12: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance.
- 51:31Speaker 6: Kid, the four out there, did you the fours.
- 51:36Speaker 1: No, how good.
- 51:41Speaker 6: I thought we were in trouble.
- 51:43Speaker 1: I think reasons.
- 51:44Speaker 12: I thought that's honorable. I like what these guys.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Are up are about?
- 51:48Speaker 6: Someone's got a trough look on radio, I for.
- 51:50Speaker 1: Make you'll know it's six, but you say, hey, we
- 51:57Speaker 1: a moment there.
- 51:58Speaker 6: I thought we were in trouble.
- 52:04Speaker 1: Savage like he's the best on the Pots and Pans.
- 52:09Speaker 1: You could just bloody listening all day. Yeah, I feel
- 52:11Speaker 1: like he's His accent is as thick as Rush. I
- 52:15Speaker 1: feel like Rush doesn't have a sticker's accent.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Yeah, he makes like whatever the whatever the Scottish version of.
- 52:24Speaker 1: Cockney is.
- 52:25Speaker 2: I feel like Robert Carlisle has that a little more
- 52:28Speaker 2: in his voice than is that racist?
- 52:33Speaker 1: He shut up?
- 52:33Speaker 2: Then, like is it Irish is in a race? Neither
- 52:37Speaker 2: is Cockney. So I don't think he's Scottish. Oh sorry's Scottish? Yes,
- 52:42Speaker 2: now that's racist. That should be the dirty Irish beggars. Nationalist.
- 52:48Speaker 1: No, that's not right. I'm not a nationalist. I'm like
- 52:52Speaker 1: Irish because the centing bread. But I mean races. Yes,
- 53:02Speaker 1: I am adopted, which is possible. Yeah, it's time for
- 53:09Speaker 1: definitely Daniel. Oh look, he's the last one of this.
- 53:14Speaker 13: My name is doctor Daniel Jackson. Ascension is an extremely
- 53:19Speaker 13: advanced evolutionary process whereby the human consciousness becomes pure energy
- 53:25Speaker 13: and actually rises to a higher plane of existence. While
- 53:29Speaker 13: it takes several thousand years of evolution for humans to
- 53:31Speaker 13: reach the point where they can attain the state of
- 53:33Speaker 13: being naturally, a less evolved person can actually be ascended
- 53:37Speaker 13: by other ascended beings. In fact, it happened to me once.
- 53:42Speaker 13: I have little memory of it now, but I can
- 53:45Speaker 13: tell you ascension comes with a much greater understanding of
- 53:47Speaker 13: the universe and the forces of nature within it. The
- 53:50Speaker 13: power that comes with that knowledge is potentially dangerous if misused,
- 53:54Speaker 13: as we have seen.
- 53:55Speaker 1: With the Ori I.
- 53:56Speaker 13: It is for this reason that ascended ancients now have
- 53:59Speaker 13: a strict rule about non interference in our human existence.
- 54:03Speaker 13: I could go on about that, but we would probably
- 54:06Speaker 13: have to get another tape.
- 54:08Speaker 1: And pay him over time. It's kind of and that's it.
- 54:13Speaker 1: That's the end of definitely, Daniel.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Was that a happy accident or was that intended? Like
- 54:18Speaker 2: given that there's that whole speech that Rush has in
- 54:21Speaker 2: this where he's talking about ascension almost like it's the
- 54:23Speaker 2: afterlife and heaven and stuff like that.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Because that's the one I was trying to find, which
- 54:27Speaker 1: I for some reason I hadn't cut. But yeah, Eli's
- 54:31Speaker 1: waffling and waffling and waffling about figuring out that he's
- 54:36Speaker 1: going to die one day because he saw his grandfather
- 54:38Speaker 1: in the coffin. And he's like, yeah, well that's not
- 54:41Speaker 1: a very particular unique experience when you find out immortality.
- 54:45Speaker 1: And then yeah, he was just saying like, but that's it,
- 54:49Speaker 1: Like that's the end of your experience. And he's like, well,
- 54:50Speaker 1: the ancients learned to evolve to a point where they
- 54:52Speaker 1: can ascend, and he's maybe won't happen to you or me,
- 54:57Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, I though, because.
- 55:02Speaker 2: I don't know whether Rush is making an assumption or not,
- 55:04Speaker 2: or whether it's whether it's just kind of an assumption
- 55:07Speaker 2: by the writers and stuff like that, but he specifically
- 55:09Speaker 2: it jumped out of me. He said, like immortality. He said,
- 55:13Speaker 2: by sending, you become immortal. And it's like, is that
- 55:17Speaker 2: is that? Do we know that for sure? Like yeah,
- 55:20Speaker 2: you know, when you think about it, assumed so because
- 55:22Speaker 2: of how old all those ancients are. But it's like
- 55:25Speaker 2: you look at the old and they're able to extend
- 55:29Speaker 2: their life by the sarcophagus, So how do we know
- 55:31Speaker 2: that at some point because they.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Say they're pure energy.
- 55:36Speaker 2: But it does because it makes me think about I
- 55:38Speaker 2: don't know if any of you guys watched The Good
- 55:40Speaker 2: Place with Kristen Bell a little bit, Yeah, first season
- 55:45Speaker 2: or so the last season really gets into the It
- 55:50Speaker 2: kind of gets into the heaven and Hell version of Okay, well,
- 55:52Speaker 2: if you go to heaven and spend eternity in heaven,
- 55:56Speaker 2: at what point are you done? So it kind of
- 55:58Speaker 2: mirrors like if we live forever on Earth, at what
- 56:02Speaker 2: point would you be so incredibly bored and you've done everything,
- 56:05Speaker 2: You've pretty played your favorite video game, You've you've finished it,
- 56:08Speaker 2: you know all those things. So like, okay, so when
- 56:11Speaker 2: you go to heaven and you can literally do anything
- 56:13Speaker 2: you want, at what point have you actually checked off
- 56:16Speaker 2: every single thing on your to do list in heaven?
- 56:21Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh what what now?
- 56:23Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? I think in the Bible,
- 56:26Speaker 1: heaven's just like a place where you go and then
- 56:29Speaker 1: the revelations happens, and then the dead rise and it's
- 56:35Speaker 1: on Earth. Everyone's it's like I.
- 56:39Speaker 2: Never got into revelations. I never read the Bible. Someone
- 56:42Speaker 2: told me how it ended, so I spoiled it for me. Yeah,
- 56:44Speaker 2: well it's hard to read. I tried, what is it?
- 56:48Speaker 2: What does it even mean? Yeah, it's pretty intense. Well yeah,
- 56:52Speaker 2: so I just yeah, I think it's just an interesting
- 56:54Speaker 2: sort of thought. I was like, I obviously, yeah.
- 56:57Speaker 1: We know that the ancients live for tens of thousands
- 56:59Speaker 1: of year years yeah minimum, I guess millions of years
- 57:02Speaker 1: in it is, yeah, because he could pretty confidently say, well,
- 57:08Speaker 1: what they came to they didn't.
- 57:10Speaker 2: See several million years, but they didn't know ascension then
- 57:13Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't figure out ascension until after they
- 57:15Speaker 2: separated from the Ari. I came back to Earth.
- 57:19Speaker 1: Yeah, before but before Atlantis, right, yes, I think Atlantis
- 57:27Speaker 1: left Earth what ten thousand years ago? Several million?
- 57:31Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, and it submerged ten thousand years ago
- 57:34Speaker 2: after the fight with the wraith. Yeah, that's interesting, and
- 57:38Speaker 2: then they came back.
- 57:40Speaker 1: So I imagine, yeah, there would have been generations of
- 57:43Speaker 1: ancients on Atlantis.
- 57:46Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely generations. But when did the first ancient assent?
- 57:50Speaker 2: So it was the first ancient to ascend? And how
- 57:52Speaker 2: long ago was it that interesting? Yeah, maybe we'll get
- 57:56Speaker 2: that in the new series maybe.
- 57:58Speaker 1: Yeah. I was thinking that the other days, Like technical,
- 58:00Speaker 1: Daniel still has Merlin in his brain, right, didn't that
- 58:04Speaker 1: dissipate it was? It was, Yeah, it was kind of
- 58:08Speaker 1: it was pre programmed to disappear out of his brain
- 58:12Speaker 1: in the same way that the Asgard were able to
- 58:15Speaker 1: like wipe O'Neill of the Ancient Repository. If nothing, because
- 58:19Speaker 1: I had this weird feeling like imagine, Like I was
- 58:22Speaker 1: just thinking about the future and future episodes. Imagine if
- 58:27Speaker 1: and this is kind of going meta in a way,
- 58:30Speaker 1: but if Daniel Jackson merged his consciousness with Merlin and
- 58:34Speaker 1: then somehow travel back in time and then started creating
- 58:38Speaker 1: inventions to fight the Guaulah.
- 58:41Speaker 2: And he became he he was Merlin, that self fulfilling
- 58:44Speaker 2: prophecy kind of situation.
- 58:45Speaker 1: No, he was the other guy Michello Michello. When I
- 58:49Speaker 1: was watching Michello, like I was high as I was
- 58:53Speaker 1: watching Michello, We're watching that, I'm like, oh, that's a
- 58:57Speaker 1: sick idea.
- 58:58Speaker 2: So he travels, Yeah, like old Daniel Jackson travels back
- 59:02Speaker 2: in time.
- 59:02Speaker 1: And becomes Michelle. Yeah, like he's stuck back there and
- 59:06Speaker 1: He's like, I can't be me, so I would just
- 59:08Speaker 1: be this Michello guy. I kind of like that, and
- 59:11Speaker 1: he's got Merlin's memories. Yeah, I don't know, and then
- 59:14Speaker 1: just comes a big cuckoo at the end. It's a
- 59:16Speaker 1: little bit predestination paradox. You like it. But when I
- 59:19Speaker 1: when it came to me, I was like, oh, watch
- 59:22Speaker 1: it again and just pretend that it's Daniel future Daniel. Well,
- 59:26Speaker 1: it's easy to do, is Michael Shanks. So that's fine,
- 59:27Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
- 59:28Speaker 2: That's why I was like, hey, this could work, and
- 59:31Speaker 2: I suppose and that's a way to ensure that as
- 59:34Speaker 2: Michael Shanks ages, he.
- 59:36Speaker 1: Can now he can play young Michello. Change approved. That's
- 59:41Speaker 1: what I was thinking. Let's do it last one. Imagine
- 59:45Speaker 1: if you were, like we've said before, this is your
- 59:48Speaker 1: first watch vesgu and you just like, my god, Rush
- 59:52Speaker 1: is so smart, because like Rush knows all of this
- 59:55Speaker 1: stuff about time travel, going back in time, the soular flame.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: But we already knew that, Mike, You and I, Yeah,
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: which old school SG one fans, we knew all that.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: But if your first time SG you watch it and
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: never seen any other Stargate, imagine this for the first time.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: In that context, that would be this would.
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: Been eld just happened, It went back in time?
- 1:00:17Speaker 8: What are you doing making sure it hasn't happened yet?
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: What hasn't happened yet?
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Solar flair is the only explanation.
- 1:00:24Speaker 8: If a wormhole's trajectory takes it too close to a
- 1:00:27Speaker 8: star and it passes through an active solar flair, it
- 1:00:30Speaker 8: can cause it to move forwards or bikewards in time.
- 1:00:33Speaker 8: In some cases, the wormhole can actually look back around
- 1:00:37Speaker 8: and connect to the same gate at a different time.
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: In this case, in the past. Oh my god, back
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: to the future.
- 1:00:45Speaker 8: I put us on that recording, dropped out of FTL
- 1:00:49Speaker 8: and went to the planet. Sometime later, a solar flarer
- 1:00:52Speaker 8: code preventing normal gate shop.
- 1:00:54Speaker 7: So Scott thought that he was sending the Keno back
- 1:00:57Speaker 7: to the destiny, but he was actually set it back
- 1:01:00Speaker 7: to the planet.
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: But in the past. God, that is so.
- 1:01:04Speaker 6: Weird to think that was really us in the kino.
- 1:01:06Speaker 8: Us in the previous un older timeline modified no O,
- 1:01:09Speaker 8: but the introduction of the kino from the future.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Could imagine, but he didn't figure it out until he
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: saw the Kenot roll down the ramp and and see
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: the dead rush mm hmmm. Yeah, but was that where
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: the skull was. No, I think that was elsewhere someone
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: kicked it. Oh he could have That could have been
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: that Rush could have died in a different spot, Yes,
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: could have been. Oh, he could have just been knocked
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: out murder.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: Otherwise, that could have been one of those extra timelines. Yeah,
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: the kid was talking about, But that's a lot of
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: detailed position when we're only dealing with the matter of
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: well hours and stuff.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: I'm assuming those little those little time bug lizards picked
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: the carcass clean.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: No, that's true. It could have been very quick.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very cool tho. Yeah, how you were
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: just putting it like if you're a new watcher.
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: But I like that in world that's just concrete now,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: like that's just something that they know they can.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Deal with, because that was because he's read the fare.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: That was a mystery for us.
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: They're watching an episode and how to deal with it.
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the midway through a season they're going
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: to be okay, but it was such a big thing
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: for those characters. You're like, this is scary for them
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: to be stuck out of time. And for here, it's like, Okay,
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: we know this can happen, and this is how we're
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: going to beat it. And then for them just to
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: like into the destiny, Okay, cool, this soul flares hasn't
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: like very cool that we can just sort of yeah,
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: pass on, pass on that information and that knowledge.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Yeah, especially from Eli's point of view too, when it's
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: like a month ago he was setting home playing video
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: games in sweatpants and then suddenly he finds out that
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: there's start boring about that stargates and space travel and
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: all that kind of thing. But then on top of
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: everything else, now he's finding out the time travel is real.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: Like that would be a mind blowing moment, but then
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: like you wouldn't be like, oh my god, back to
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: the future. Yeah, doing that, Yeah, that's what That's what
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Cooper thinks. Guys like us would have done it that,
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: And it is kind of cool that like there is
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: that that that's a that's a glitch in the stargate
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: system that as brilliant as the ancients were and for
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: as long as they were around and all the other
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: ship that they created and kind of perfected, that was
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: still not better than the natural power of the universe.
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: You know that like a sun, and that that technology
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: and wormholes and stuff could like glitch a you know,
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: a computer system like the Stargate. They were just never
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: able to sort of compensate for that. And it's you know,
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: it's it's in different galaxies across the universe.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: That problem still exists.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: So just thinking Devil's Advocate, is that the one that
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: it only happened because Carter bypassed some kind of safety protocol?
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: Or am I thinking of a different episode something in
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Red Planet? Oh, that's the one I'm thinking of. She
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: does it all the time, was saying you just recked us. Yeah,
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: there was still but yeah it was was was nineteen
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: sixty nine by chance?
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: Or was it because Carter over rode some stuff? I
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: can't remember. I remember the cut on her hand because
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: that's how it happened.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: You, Yeah, the paradox, But is that when she came
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: up to the She because she came up to the
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: control room to like bypass something around thee Yeah yeah,
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: so yeah, maybe the ancients did know about it and
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: that it was an issue, but suddenly because we didn't
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: have ye was able to That's the past that is
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: pretty reckless in the case, right, right, but then we
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: wouldn't get nineteen sixty nine, so you know, and we
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: all love a sixty nine, absolutely we do, especially when
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: they're nineteen big time.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: All right. That's episode three hundred and eighteen. Thanks for
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: joining us.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: And if you'd like to have the time of your life, Q,
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- 1:05:02Speaker 2: mentioned it at the start of the episode. A big
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: shout out to everybody that has, you know, past and present,
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: contributed to the Patreon help. It's helped us get a
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: lot new studio equipment. But I want you even share that
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: to some of our newer patreons. Gareth Forester, Gareth good old,
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: good old g Banger, You're right, Gareth. Uh Nikki Rere
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Now I feel I feel like Nicky could be a
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: gamer because they've done that thing where it's like capitals
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: but then the first ree is lower case, but then
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: the second ree is upper case.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: Nice.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: That feels like some kind of streamer streamer situation to me.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: These things, Yeah, I mean, there's no there's no numbers
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: in there. Alex Felix that's that feels like child abuse,
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Like if you like you're cat, that's what I sing,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: Felix the cat, the wonderful, wonderful cat. But it's like
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: if your last names Felix, do you really name me child?
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Alex?
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: Do you want that many ex sounds just like repeating
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: no fans to your parents, Alex. I'm sure they're great people,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: but just just have a question, just a question mark
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: on that one. If you could, if you could hit again,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Alex Felix.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: Alex Felix god one of the great names.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: Sounds like a like a scientific name, you know, like
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: the genus of a plant, or the Alex Felix. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: the Alex Felix tulip or.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: Something like that. Ye shout out to the cube of
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: orbus o. I love the old orbus or bus or
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: bus cub qub squeak shout outs just squeak, squeak. We
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: love the mononym from a little bit scollari. What's that?
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, basketball squeak scollarly that's a deep cut to
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: know what squeaks last name was.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm impressed.
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: Literally from that line that the commentator it doesn't squeak,
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: little bitch Scolari.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: My vocal STM from that movie is finger. Yeah, that's
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: that's my one for that so good.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: That didn't make any odds and Island the movie list.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Do you guys pay out to meet thirteen or fourteen
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: more times?
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: Im out of here?
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: That was Reese and then we paid out it him
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: fifteen times and he left.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: A couple more. Shout out the other one, the other one,
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: the high school one high school one, the Squeak. There
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: was a squeak is Squeak one of the high school
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: shows in the nineties.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: No, you're thinking Screech, screech screech, Squeak was actually here's
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: a deep, deep cut for you. Squeak was one of
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: the little blue Ewok character type characters from Jetson's the movie.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: Ah.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: I think that's one of the very first movies I
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: saw me Too. I had it on BHS. I watched
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: it probably once a week for you rich by years.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: I see Mom and Dad would buy the tape because otherwise,
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: like literally every Friday night, I wanted to go down
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: to the local like Video Easy, Blockbuster or we had
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: at one point a Rainbow Video and where it was
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: you know, seven weeklies for seven dollars or whatever it was.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: My parents were like absolutely not one of the seven
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: dollars on that.
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: Yeah, because I would be getting like random like eighties
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: vhs is if you like the Jetsons or Dinosaurces or
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: the movie.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: Yes, I loved it was great. I wanted to learn
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: how to play the piano from the bab Oh.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, shout out to Council Scribe.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: Great screen some these are some the writer wacky wacky
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: screens were.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Probably a better writer than Cooper. This.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: This sounds like a like a mid forties women's clothing store. No,
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Deborah k Oh, I would shut there. It is dobor
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: it's d E b o R a.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: Down coming down two for one two for one that
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: then now sunny is not like a wholehouse.
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: That that could be Debora k Is who Eli's mum
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: worked with, and that was the two for one. D
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: get Eli's mum and Debora k for twenty bucks. Uh oh,
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: this is this one of your relatives or mine, Brendan.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: We've got a Stephanie Gibson, Stephanie old step I want
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: to mine, but I'll take it like it's a golden Retriever.
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: Is the screen pitcher it might even been a Golden
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Retriever in a Santa Hate. I can't quite tell.
- 1:09:32Speaker 12: It's very small.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Thank you, Stephanie. Shout out to Calm Calm. Oh no,
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: no that's it. That's three, but quick, I've got three
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: more shout outs. Get the thing, Calm see double an.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: Oh he's a couzy brow from New Zealand because he
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: donated in New Zealand dollars. Shout out to Casper Peterson
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: Castle with a K, which makes me think of KKK.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: But shout out to Peters witch and and they Casper donated.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: It's something in d k K. I don't know what
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: kind of dollars those are, but thank you very much, Caspar.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: Is that Denmark crown or something? Oh could be oh sprecken, No,
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: that's German. I'm just gonna move on.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: Thank you to Wendy great ones.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: Sorry Mitch.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: The Danish crome.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: The crown, well we say cron Danish crime crime made
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: a mother crome. Thank you everybody. I'm about to give
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: a microphone turned off, so thank you. You're going to
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- 1:10:36Speaker 2: which Mitch, what do you What do you want to
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- 1:10:39Speaker 1: We're done. I think we're done.
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