Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 8-11-26
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- 0:14Speaker 1: Heaven Monday.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Nope, it's a Tuesday.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Everybody.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Welcome to the Shot O'Connell Show on ESPN and seven
- 0:21Speaker 3: ninety two NFN. Glad to be back with you. Should
- 0:26Speaker 3: be a fun show lined up today. We've got a
- 0:29Speaker 3: little Red and Blue check in. Jerem Jordan's going to
- 0:32Speaker 3: join us at noon, Jeff Schwartz to talk all things
- 0:34Speaker 3: going on around the NFL and college football camps at
- 0:39Speaker 3: one o'clock, and Ari Timkin joining us in thirty minutes.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Ari was supposed to join us yesterday on the show.
- 0:46Speaker 3: I had an unexpected little detour on our weekend. I
- 0:51Speaker 3: want to give a shout out at expression of gratitude,
- 0:56Speaker 3: just positive thoughts to everyone up at Primary Children's Medical
- 1:00Speaker 3: We had a little, thankfully minor medical emergency with my
- 1:04Speaker 3: oldest daughter and they have taken great care of her
- 1:07Speaker 3: after an emergency surgery, and everyone's on the mend and
- 1:11Speaker 3: doing well. But man, it makes you as a parent
- 1:14Speaker 3: and just as someone who lives here in Utah, in
- 1:17Speaker 3: Salt Lake City, it makes you grateful to have such
- 1:19Speaker 3: incredible medical care close by. So shout out to all
- 1:23Speaker 3: the folks up there listening at Primary Children's Medical Center.
- 1:26Speaker 3: And thank you so much for taking care of my
- 1:29Speaker 3: daughter and making it as painless as possible for me,
- 1:33Speaker 3: who is a neurotic and worrisome dad.
- 1:36Speaker 1: As much as I wish I wasn't.
- 1:38Speaker 3: We are down here in God's Country today on remote
- 1:41Speaker 3: at Sound Sleep Medical.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I'm very excited. It said. It's a hometown show for me.
- 1:46Speaker 3: I'm like a mile and a half away from the
- 1:49Speaker 3: home I grew up in, sitting down here on seventh East,
- 1:53Speaker 3: just off nineties south east side of the road. We
- 1:57Speaker 3: would love to have you come in and you know,
- 2:01Speaker 3: hang out with us today. If you can't do that,
- 2:03Speaker 3: put this number in your phone. Aight O one three,
- 2:05Speaker 3: three five, nine to eight.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Too far two four.
- 2:08Speaker 3: We're gonna be hearing from Mandy down here at Sound
- 2:11Speaker 3: Sleep Medical. If you are having sleep issues, if you're
- 2:14Speaker 3: waking up grogging, you don't even know whether or not
- 2:16Speaker 3: you have sleep issues, if you're unexpectedly gaining weight, if
- 2:21Speaker 3: there's anything that you can't really explain about your health
- 2:24Speaker 3: that's changing, it might be associated with your sleep. So
- 2:28Speaker 3: we're gonna get some information for you today and all
- 2:32Speaker 3: callers that schedule an appointment today. Aight O one three
- 2:36Speaker 3: three five ninety eight twenty four are going to be
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- 2:44Speaker 3: purple pillow, not the color purple, the Purple brand pillow,
- 2:48Speaker 3: a Minky cotor throw a fifty dollars Amazon Electronic gift card.
- 2:54Speaker 3: If you're anything like me or anything like the people
- 2:57Speaker 3: in my house, you want to set that appointment just
- 3:00Speaker 3: so you can qualify for the Minky coteur throw.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I don't.
- 3:03Speaker 3: We're keeping that business going with how many blankets exist
- 3:08Speaker 3: in my house? Five locations for Sound Sleep Medical, Clearfield,
- 3:12Speaker 3: Murray right here in Sandy, Provo and Saint George. They
- 3:16Speaker 3: use oral appliances to treat sleep apnea, so you don't
- 3:20Speaker 3: have to put the big Darth Vader see pat machine
- 3:22Speaker 3: on again. We're going to give you more details about
- 3:24Speaker 3: this as the show progresses. Today when we check in
- 3:28Speaker 3: with Mandy, we got camp Scally Sound for you. Zaraway Williams,
- 3:33Speaker 3: I think is going to be the guy who emerges
- 3:36Speaker 3: as kind of the anchor of this offensive line, and
- 3:39Speaker 3: whether or not that's true on the field, he is
- 3:42Speaker 3: going to be the offensive lineman that you want to
- 3:44Speaker 3: hear from most during this football season. He is such
- 3:49Speaker 3: an interesting guy to listen to, and you had actual,
- 3:53Speaker 3: real media availability, not just interview availability. Yesterday they streamed
- 3:58Speaker 3: part of practice just hold on.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Rewind.
- 4:05Speaker 3: In an era where Utah Football has built more and
- 4:10Speaker 3: more fences between viewing any part of practice, any kind
- 4:14Speaker 3: of secrets leaking out or whatever, we had an opportunity
- 4:20Speaker 3: to just pull out your phone. I mean, I was
- 4:22Speaker 3: sitting in my daughter's hospital room yesterday, pulled out my phone,
- 4:27Speaker 3: pulled up the official Utah Football Instagram, and I watched
- 4:32Speaker 3: a portion of practice. Now, there were people on the
- 4:35Speaker 3: stream complaining because the sound didn't work. I guess that
- 4:38Speaker 3: there's some kind of rule where Instagram. If there's music
- 4:41Speaker 3: in the background, the Instagram artificial intelligence automatically mutes things
- 4:46Speaker 3: so they don't accidentally commit any copyright infringement. It actually
- 4:50Speaker 3: protects you from getting cease and desist letters sent to you.
- 4:54Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, Morgan, Scali and company decided, you
- 4:58Speaker 3: know what, to actually let the fans have a little
- 5:02Speaker 3: glimpse into some indie time. They did the special teams thing,
- 5:06Speaker 3: and I love this the explanation when the announcement came through.
- 5:11Speaker 3: He was explaining it to Dylan Curtis and the rest
- 5:14Speaker 3: of the kickers. He said, look, there's gonna be millions
- 5:17Speaker 3: of people watching, Millions of people want to watch. There's
- 5:19Speaker 3: gonna be millions of people watching you.
- 5:22Speaker 1: You better be able to perform under pressure.
- 5:24Speaker 3: I like that they're playing mind games a little bit
- 5:27Speaker 3: in camp with the kicker and with really anybody on
- 5:31Speaker 3: this football team. As we marched towards a September third
- 5:35Speaker 3: kickoff against Idaho, can't wait for it.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Love getting those junk mail updates.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll get a little bit more of this where
- 5:43Speaker 3: we can watch some practice. And again we're a day
- 5:47Speaker 3: late and a dollar short on this thing, but I
- 5:51Speaker 3: I was very excited to talk yesterday about something inspired
- 5:55Speaker 3: by a former ute and the you big is media
- 6:00Speaker 3: availability and video that you can find in NFL camps,
- 6:04Speaker 3: which is very hilarious that at the NFL level, they
- 6:07Speaker 3: will let you watch practice, they will let fans go
- 6:09Speaker 3: watch practice, you can record practice yourself, you can take
- 6:13Speaker 3: cell phone video yourself. You can do whatever you want.
- 6:15Speaker 3: And NFL coaches and gms are not like, oh, there's
- 6:18Speaker 3: going to be secrets that expose us, and there's gonna
- 6:21Speaker 3: be you know, some sort of competitive advantage given to
- 6:24Speaker 3: our opponents for this but one little piece of video
- 6:27Speaker 3: that came out over the weekend and then subsequently caused
- 6:31Speaker 3: the release of several other pieces of video. Former Outland
- 6:36Speaker 3: Trophy Winner, All American, All Conference, All Everything, Spencer Fono
- 6:44Speaker 3: now in a Cleveland Browns uniform, which I'll never get over.
- 6:47Speaker 1: What a.
- 6:49Speaker 3: What a dubious blessing that is for him to be
- 6:52Speaker 3: a first round draft pick. But he's got to go
- 6:53Speaker 3: to the Browns anyway. He is blocking Jared Verse. Jared Verse,
- 6:58Speaker 3: of course, part of the blockbuster trade that happened this
- 7:01Speaker 3: summer that allowed the Los Angeles Rams to get Miles
- 7:06Speaker 3: Garrett away from Cleveland. They send the Rams send Verse
- 7:09Speaker 3: and a bunch of picks and a bunch of assets
- 7:12Speaker 3: back to Cleveland. And Jared Verse really the most established
- 7:16Speaker 3: and important player in that trade, right. He's a guy
- 7:22Speaker 3: that Cleveland expects to continue his growth. Cleveland expects to
- 7:27Speaker 3: continue to get better and better and be a Pro
- 7:30Speaker 3: Bowl caliber, all Pro type player like he seemed to
- 7:33Speaker 3: be trending to go. As the Los Angeles Ram, well,
- 7:37Speaker 3: you got the rookie Spencer Fano and the established and
- 7:42Speaker 3: a bit cantankerous veteran in Jared Verse going against one
- 7:46Speaker 3: another in practice and talking a little bit of trash,
- 7:49Speaker 3: drawing back and forth and ended up being they call
- 7:52Speaker 3: it a fight in NFL practices.
- 7:55Speaker 1: It's not really a fight.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Okay, it's a scuffle, it's a fuffl, it's a skirmish,
- 8:02Speaker 3: it's a brew haha. It's not a fight because all
- 8:06Speaker 3: it is is pushing, shoving, rolling around. Occasionally there'll be
- 8:10Speaker 3: a punch or two thrown. Most of the time they miss,
- 8:13Speaker 3: sometimes they land on a helmet. It's really not an
- 8:17Speaker 3: actual like fight. People are not getting hurt in these things,
- 8:20Speaker 3: at least most cases. That's not what happens. By the way,
- 8:25Speaker 3: our guy Spencer Fano ended up on top of the
- 8:28Speaker 3: sumo wrestling roll around there, so I think it counts
- 8:31Speaker 3: as a win for the rookie. And then you get
- 8:34Speaker 3: right back to playing. You get right back to to
- 8:38Speaker 3: you know, taking your reps and doing your one on
- 8:42Speaker 3: ones and half line drill and all that kind of stuff.
- 8:46Speaker 3: And Spencer Fano and Jared Vers had to keep meeting
- 8:48Speaker 3: each other at practice, had to keep going at practice,
- 8:52Speaker 3: and because of the very strange nature of competitive football,
- 8:56Speaker 3: you kind of pretend it didn't happen and you keep going.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Reason I was so excited about this and the reason
- 9:02Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about it on the show, like
- 9:05Speaker 3: to start the show talking about it, is because it
- 9:08Speaker 3: reminded me of these things that we're looking for in
- 9:12Speaker 3: football players that don't really show up on a combine workout.
- 9:19Speaker 3: They don't show up even on game.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Tape most of the time.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Sometimes, yes, the questions that coaches have to answer, especially
- 9:28Speaker 3: when we're talking about the Spencer Fano and Jared versus
- 9:31Speaker 3: level talents in the NFL, and of course those guys
- 9:35Speaker 3: at one time were college athletes.
- 9:37Speaker 1: When we're talking about.
- 9:39Speaker 3: The elite, elite players that you have on your roster,
- 9:43Speaker 3: and now that you're a general manager and you're a
- 9:46Speaker 3: professional league, even in college football, and you have to
- 9:50Speaker 3: decide what the salary cap structure is going to be.
- 9:52Speaker 3: You have to decide how much of your revenue share
- 9:54Speaker 3: is going to go to this guy and how much
- 9:56Speaker 3: nil is going to go to that guy. Yes, you're
- 9:58Speaker 3: looking for height eight, speed explosion. How many times can
- 10:03Speaker 3: he bench press two twenty five? How many touchdowns did
- 10:07Speaker 3: he score at his last stop, How many touchdowns did
- 10:09Speaker 3: he score in high school? How many sacks did he
- 10:11Speaker 3: have for North Texas before we give him any kind
- 10:15Speaker 3: of a scholarship and the money that goes on top
- 10:17Speaker 3: of it, You're also looking for these sort of unmeasurable
- 10:20Speaker 3: traits that guys have to have if you're gonna spend
- 10:25Speaker 3: real money on him, that guys have to have if
- 10:27Speaker 3: you're going to give up a first round draft pick.
- 10:31Speaker 1: In order to get him.
- 10:32Speaker 3: And one of the questions that people had about Spencer
- 10:34Speaker 3: Fano was is he a dog?
- 10:39Speaker 1: Is he that guy? Because Spencerfano is so incredibly likable,
- 10:43Speaker 1: He is so kind.
- 10:46Speaker 3: He is the guy that's gonna show up at the
- 10:48Speaker 3: Ronald McDonald house and he's the key. He's the guy,
- 10:51Speaker 3: the player that you send to meet the cancer patients,
- 10:54Speaker 3: and he's the guy who's gonna volunteer his time at
- 10:57Speaker 3: the local food bank. Right, And that's all wonderful, and
- 10:59Speaker 3: you need it. You need your elite level players or
- 11:03Speaker 3: your eventually level players to have some level of community outreach.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:08Speaker 3: It's a popularity contest, especially now, because somebody out there
- 11:13Speaker 3: is buying tickets specifically to watch you, Somebody is giving
- 11:17Speaker 3: some kind of donation, some business is throwing some money
- 11:20Speaker 3: at the program to pay for your nil whatever. And
- 11:24Speaker 3: we knew the Fano family here in Utah to where
- 11:28Speaker 3: those questions were. They were not asked the same way
- 11:32Speaker 3: they're going to be asked in Cleveland. They're not going
- 11:34Speaker 3: to be asked the same way that they have been
- 11:36Speaker 3: in the NFL. But we need to be better at
- 11:38Speaker 3: this actually with Utah football, right, does that guy have.
- 11:44Speaker 1: A nasty streak in him?
- 11:47Speaker 3: You look at some of the best offensive linemen that
- 11:49Speaker 3: this program has ever had, and the thing that separated them,
- 11:54Speaker 3: not all of the best offensive linemen, but.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Some of them.
- 11:57Speaker 3: The thing that separated them from the guys who had
- 12:00Speaker 3: very similar traits to them, or the guys who had
- 12:04Speaker 3: equal measurables to them, is they had this nasty mental
- 12:08Speaker 3: edge where there might be a smile on my face,
- 12:11Speaker 3: but you are not gonna touch my quarterback. You are
- 12:14Speaker 3: not going to pull the dirty little you know, nut
- 12:17Speaker 3: tap on me.
- 12:17Speaker 1: You are not going to do the thing.
- 12:19Speaker 3: You're not gonna grab my face mask as you're jogging
- 12:21Speaker 3: back to a huddle.
- 12:23Speaker 1: You're not gonna talk to me this way.
- 12:24Speaker 3: You're not gonna do anything that I think is outside
- 12:27Speaker 3: the normal bounds of football. And the question for Spencer Fano,
- 12:31Speaker 3: who's always smiling and is effectively like he's Maui from Moana.
- 12:36Speaker 1: He's like a Disney prince.
- 12:37Speaker 3: He's just the nicest dude, right, big old square jaws, smiling,
- 12:41Speaker 3: happy guy. Does he have that thing in him where
- 12:47Speaker 3: when there's you know, a Max Crosby on the other side,
- 12:50Speaker 3: when there's a Jared Versa on the other side, when
- 12:52Speaker 3: there's somebody who will be a little bit dirty, when
- 12:55Speaker 3: there's a Jadavian clowney who's gonna do like a couple
- 12:58Speaker 3: of things that try to get under your skin. He's
- 13:00Speaker 3: gonna pull some illegal moves and he's gonna maybe touch
- 13:03Speaker 3: your quarterback a half step late. Do you have the
- 13:06Speaker 3: thing in you where you're not gonna tolerate that, Where
- 13:10Speaker 3: when it boils down to it's me or you on
- 13:13Speaker 3: a football field, it's my team or it's your team
- 13:16Speaker 3: on a football field, and we have the same level
- 13:19Speaker 3: of speed, we have the same level of the side,
- 13:21Speaker 3: we have the same level of scheme awareness and technique
- 13:24Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Do you have the dog in you more than I
- 13:29Speaker 1: have the dog in me?
- 13:30Speaker 3: And I don't even like saying the dog in me
- 13:32Speaker 3: because It's like sounds corny coming out of my mouth,
- 13:35Speaker 3: but you all understand what I'm saying.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Right.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Spencer Fano is answering that question in his very first
- 13:41Speaker 3: rookie training camp. It could not be more important than
- 13:48Speaker 3: it is for Spencer Fano to let everybody around him know.
- 13:51Speaker 3: To let the quarterbacks and they don't know who the
- 13:53Speaker 3: starter is gonna be, to let the quarterbacks behind him know,
- 13:55Speaker 3: to let the offensive coordinator, to let the general manager
- 13:58Speaker 3: know that they got the guy they thought they got.
- 14:01Speaker 3: They got an offensive lineman that is smooth, polished, athletic,
- 14:04Speaker 3: but also can be when necessary mean. Meanness is the
- 14:11Speaker 3: unmeasurable trait in offensive lineman that matters most. Sam Brenner,
- 14:17Speaker 3: remember him. Sam Branner carved out an NFL career for
- 14:21Speaker 3: himself with no real from an NFL standpoint, no real
- 14:27Speaker 3: physical advantages. Never was an every down starter, never was
- 14:32Speaker 3: a guy that made a Pro Bowl or anything like that.
- 14:34Speaker 3: But Sam Brenner carved out an NFL career for himself
- 14:38Speaker 3: by being mean. Chris km Oyatu is I think the
- 14:43Speaker 3: most intimidating and terrifying football player I've ever been on
- 14:46Speaker 3: the same field with ever in.
- 14:47Speaker 1: My life right.
- 14:48Speaker 3: He was six', four three hundred and thirty five, pounds
- 14:52Speaker 3: moved very. Well but that's not what made him. Elite
- 14:56Speaker 3: that's not what made him An All. American and he
- 14:58Speaker 3: wasn't a Unanimous All, american but he was An All.
- 15:00Speaker 3: American it wasn't his physical traits that made him. Elite
- 15:05Speaker 3: what made him elite is he was, nasty like bordering
- 15:09Speaker 3: on criminal nasty on a football, field very, quiet soft,
- 15:16Speaker 3: spoken nice guy away from the, field but on a
- 15:19Speaker 3: football field he was borderline. Psychotic they actually had to
- 15:24Speaker 3: rein it in a little. Bit early in his career
- 15:26Speaker 3: he drew a couple of like really unfortunate. Penalties there
- 15:31Speaker 3: WAS i can't remember who WHO U tell was playing.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Against he got his cleat stuck in somebody, else underneath
- 15:38Speaker 3: somebody else's face mask because he was that kind of
- 15:41Speaker 3: like nasty guy right where someone was on the ground
- 15:45Speaker 3: and he effectively kicked him in the face and his
- 15:47Speaker 3: cleat got stuck underneath their face, mask between their face
- 15:50Speaker 3: meet and the mask.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Itself his cleat got stuck in.
- 15:54Speaker 3: There guys Like Jordan, Gross Jordan, gross, nice, cordial, smiley
- 16:03Speaker 3: and a guy again with with elite physical, traits but
- 16:05Speaker 3: had to be nasty in order to make himself a
- 16:09Speaker 3: great offensive lineman at the college football AND nfl. Level Garrett,
- 16:13Speaker 3: BOWLES i, mean the list goes on and on and.
- 16:17Speaker 3: On eight seven seven three five three, zero seven hundred text,
- 16:19Speaker 3: him and that unmeasurable trait of, nastiness, meanness whatever you
- 16:22Speaker 3: want to call it for offensive lineman is something That
- 16:25Speaker 3: Morgan scally and everyone is looking.
- 16:27Speaker 1: For in this year's.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Group, right we're gonna play you sound Of Zaraway, williams
- 16:32Speaker 3: and you're gonna you're gonna see if you go TO
- 16:35Speaker 3: espn seven, hundred sports dot, com if you go to
- 16:37Speaker 3: The utah football web, pages you're gonna see this Is he's,
- 16:40Speaker 3: massive this six foot eight inch guy with a big
- 16:42Speaker 3: old smile on his face and talking the way he.
- 16:45Speaker 3: Talks you're, LIKE i hope this guy has some nastiness in,
- 16:47Speaker 3: him and he. Does but that is the thing that's
- 16:51Speaker 3: gonna be one of the things that this staff That
- 16:55Speaker 3: Jordan gross and by the, way his assistant is offensive
- 16:58Speaker 3: line Assistant Alex. KURKY i think that's probably why he's
- 17:03Speaker 3: there to just be like the meanness, coach the nastiness
- 17:08Speaker 3: coach to just be the guy like you are the attitude,
- 17:12Speaker 3: coach because that guy rolls out of bed and is
- 17:16Speaker 3: just an Unpleasant he's like a rabid raccoon of a. Man,
- 17:21Speaker 3: Right SO i think that's probably why he's, there or
- 17:25Speaker 3: one of the big reasons why he's. There that's what
- 17:28Speaker 3: you're looking for that in this year's offensive, line and
- 17:31Speaker 3: it's not the same at every single. Position, obviously the unmeasurable,
- 17:35Speaker 3: trait the thing that doesn't show up on a stat,
- 17:39Speaker 3: sheet the trait that you have to identify to SAY
- 17:43Speaker 3: i need my guys to have this offensive, linemen, LINEBACKERS i,
- 17:49Speaker 3: THINK i think like, nastiness, meanness, competitiveness whatever adjective you
- 17:55Speaker 3: think is most appropriate there probably is the number one
- 18:01Speaker 3: determining factor of because at some point you get to
- 18:04Speaker 3: a level in football excuse, me and, look we watched
- 18:12Speaker 3: it with we watched it with THE Nfl Spencer faunal
- 18:15Speaker 3: was way better, athlete a way better physical performer than
- 18:19Speaker 3: most people at the college.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Level.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Right but then you would go up against like A Brimelo,
- 18:26Speaker 3: height you go up against The David, bailey you go
- 18:28Speaker 3: up against some of the elite pass rushers that you,
- 18:31Speaker 3: know you go up against A kiano town Of vasa
- 18:35Speaker 3: that you know from practice and, stuff although he was
- 18:37Speaker 3: on the inside rather than the outside most of the, time,
- 18:40Speaker 3: right and your physical advantages are no longer. Enough you
- 18:44Speaker 3: get to THE, nfl and we see it all the.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Time your physical advantages disappear at THE nfl. Level if
- 18:52Speaker 3: you ever had him in, college they wash out for
- 18:55Speaker 3: all but the very very top point zero one percent
- 18:58Speaker 3: of human beings when you get to pro. Sports same
- 19:02Speaker 3: is true in, baseball, basketball, football. Hockey it seems like
- 19:05Speaker 3: you can kind of get away with not being a
- 19:07Speaker 3: freak athlete in, hockey and all of these guys are
- 19:10Speaker 3: built on unmeasurable traits for the most. Part but to
- 19:14Speaker 3: go back to The spencer Final jared versus practice, fight
- 19:17Speaker 3: that unmeasurable thing that question mark does he have this
- 19:21Speaker 3: him answering that question with the. Nastiness it's the thing
- 19:26Speaker 3: that either keeps you on the level you need to
- 19:28Speaker 3: be when everything else equels, out or it's the thing
- 19:30Speaker 3: that elevates you above the other. Guys for, QUARTERBACKS i
- 19:36Speaker 3: think that unmeasurable, trait that difference maker is work ethic
- 19:42Speaker 3: because my initial REACTION i wanted to say it's. Intelligence
- 19:47Speaker 3: but then you get to college football, now and there's
- 19:51Speaker 3: what one hundred and thirty eight STARTING d one. Quarterbacks
- 19:55Speaker 3: one hundred of them are probably above average, intelligence.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Of them are probably football.
- 20:01Speaker 3: Geniuses twenty five of them are football geniuses who also
- 20:07Speaker 3: have fanatical work. Ethic that's the separating trait when we're
- 20:13Speaker 3: talking about, quarterbacks and it's something that should kind of a,
- 20:18Speaker 3: paintbrush that should go across your entire team and be
- 20:21Speaker 3: the separator across an entire. Team but, quarterbacks very few
- 20:26Speaker 3: of them separate themselves from the pack with anything physical at. All, Right,
- 20:32Speaker 3: yes some guys have arms that are just gifts From
- 20:35Speaker 3: god that the ball just comes out of your hand
- 20:38Speaker 3: the way that it's supposed. To and yes they go
- 20:41Speaker 3: to quarterback, coaches and yes they do all the mobility,
- 20:44Speaker 3: exercises and yes they make sure that they're dialing in
- 20:48Speaker 3: the release point on the hands and they get that
- 20:50Speaker 3: attention to. Detail but really what that is is it's
- 20:53Speaker 3: all boiling down to work.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Ethic are you willing to do the extra little? Bit
- 21:00Speaker 1: are you? Willing And Drew brees was.
- 21:04Speaker 3: In he did The hall Of fame speech this, weekend
- 21:07Speaker 3: and he basically talked about that in not so many.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Words he talked about the fact that the thing that
- 21:13Speaker 3: ended up Separating Drew brees and Making Drew brees A
- 21:15Speaker 3: hall Of FAME nfl quarterback was that a coach told
- 21:20Speaker 3: him he Had you, Know Drew brees was already, Great
- 21:23Speaker 3: he was already scheme, aware he was already a football.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Genius he already had the necessary. Tools he was in
- 21:30Speaker 3: THE nfl and he missed the throw and a coach
- 21:34Speaker 3: paused the, tape turned on the, light why didn't you
- 21:37Speaker 3: make that? Throw And Drew brees, Said i'm. Paraphrasing he
- 21:39Speaker 3: SAID i didn't see. Him and the coach basically cursed
- 21:43Speaker 3: him out and, said you're paid to. See And Drew
- 21:48Speaker 3: brees was, like all, RIGHT i knew right then and.
- 21:50Speaker 3: THERE i was going to put in the work necessary
- 21:52Speaker 3: to not have that excuse or to not make that
- 21:55Speaker 3: excuse ever. Again If devin Dan pierre is going to
- 22:00Speaker 3: be the, coach excuse, me the quarterback that we hope
- 22:03Speaker 3: he is going to be this year at The university Of.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Utah health obviously, matters.
- 22:08Speaker 3: But the thing that is going to make him either
- 22:10Speaker 3: a championship contender or just a really good quarterback boils
- 22:14Speaker 3: down to what level of preparation has he put in
- 22:18Speaker 3: With kevin, McGibbon a new, Scheme Bird ficklin with his wide,
- 22:22Speaker 3: receivers with this new, offense with the offensive, line has
- 22:26Speaker 3: he put in the extra not even like twenty. Percent
- 22:30Speaker 3: i'm talking it's going to take like double the effort
- 22:33Speaker 3: because it's a brand new. Offense there's some new language
- 22:37Speaker 3: in this. Thing you're getting used to different. People all
- 22:41Speaker 3: of your important targets that you're throwing the ball to
- 22:44Speaker 3: with rare exception are, new and even the guys that
- 22:48Speaker 3: you have coming back from last year were not your
- 22:51Speaker 3: primary primary targets last. Year and by the, way this
- 22:55Speaker 3: is playing out at one hundred different schools around the.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Country so not only do you have to separate yourself
- 23:01Speaker 3: from your former, self you then also have to do
- 23:04Speaker 3: the extra work to separate yourself as a quarterback from
- 23:07Speaker 3: your competition forty five miles from. You Bear bachmeier is
- 23:12Speaker 3: doing the work. Necessary there are guys In, Houston, texas And,
- 23:21Speaker 3: Lubbock texas and maybe Even, Boulder, colorado Although i'm less
- 23:25Speaker 3: convinced on that one that are not just trying to
- 23:28Speaker 3: be better than they were last. Year they're trying to
- 23:30Speaker 3: be better than you. Specifically so that's the. Unmeasurable that's
- 23:35Speaker 3: the intangible thing That utah needs from their. Quarterback they
- 23:42Speaker 3: need the nastiness from the offensive. Line you can fill
- 23:46Speaker 3: in the blanks eight seven seven three five three zero seven.
- 23:48Speaker 3: Hundred you can go position by position and you can tell,
- 23:52Speaker 3: me all, right what's the unmeasurable thing for each different?
- 23:54Speaker 3: Position what is it for running? BACKS i think it's
- 23:58Speaker 3: for running. BACKS i think it's. Tolerance and as much
- 24:02Speaker 3: as reductive as that, IS i really believe that because
- 24:06Speaker 3: everybody that plays running back is going to get, Hurt
- 24:09Speaker 3: they're going to feel some sort of, OH i need
- 24:12Speaker 3: to take myself out of the. Game and some guys
- 24:14Speaker 3: tap their helmet and they jog off and they get
- 24:17Speaker 3: themselves out of, rhythm and they get their offense out of.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Rhythm and the other guys stay in the game and
- 24:22Speaker 3: they get the very next carry and they take that
- 24:24Speaker 3: one for four and a half, yards and then you
- 24:26Speaker 3: got the drive extended with a first. Down eight seven
- 24:29Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven. Hundred tell me what
- 24:31Speaker 3: you think the most unport the most, important unmeasurable traits.
- 24:35Speaker 1: For your favorite football. Players they could be your least favorite.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Too tell tell me what they are eight seven seven
- 24:40Speaker 3: three five three zero seven.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Hundred all, Right, james get.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Ready we have a request here From, kurt our sales.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Guy he, says we have to ease. It we have
- 24:51Speaker 3: A dj. Request Mandy nelson is the brains behind the
- 24:55Speaker 3: operation down here At Sound Sleep, medical And kurt says
- 24:59Speaker 3: we have to play her in with a very particular.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Song So, JAMES i guess take it.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Away, Well, mandy you can't hear, it oh, dear all,
- 25:21Speaker 4: right we gotta get, this gotta make sure we're getting
- 25:23Speaker 4: your headset.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Working and how about there we.
- 25:27Speaker 5: GO i, figured all, Right.
- 25:29Speaker 1: James can we Hear?
- 25:30Speaker 3: Mandy i'm not hearing her all that well in my,
- 25:33Speaker 3: headset though.
- 25:36Speaker 6: There it.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Is Barry manilows is very all.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Right well enough with, That, mandy welcome to the.
- 25:42Speaker 5: Show thank, you thanks for having Us Sound Sleep.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Medical tell me the REASON i told everyone at the
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- 26:05Speaker 7: Call, WELL i, MEAN i think there's a lot of
- 26:08Speaker 7: people that don't understand what SLEEP atne. Is if you
- 26:12Speaker 7: snore at, night if you wake up throughout the, night
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- 26:51Speaker 3: i think a lot of, people you, Know i'm thinking
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- 26:58Speaker 3: i don't want to have to go sleep from. Somewhere
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- 27:16Speaker 7: elbowing you throughout the night because you're, snoring you're probably
- 27:19Speaker 7: suffering from sleep.
- 27:20Speaker 3: Apnea we talked about that before the show, Also so
- 27:23Speaker 3: when we think of sleep, apnea and most of our
- 27:26Speaker 3: listeners are, men but we do have a lot of
- 27:28Speaker 3: women that. Listen, well we think of sleep, apnea we
- 27:30Speaker 3: think of like some middle aged or, older overweight guys
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- 27:43Speaker 7: Sure and the great thing about, sleep or about sound
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- 30:28Speaker 1: Sandy i'm saying that because it. Rhymes Ari tempkin From
- 30:32Speaker 1: big Twelve.
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- 31:41Speaker 3: Talking a Little big twelve, football and there are very
- 31:44Speaker 3: few people on earth that are any better at, It
- 31:46Speaker 3: if any That's Ari tempkin kind enough to join us
- 31:49Speaker 3: here on The sean O'Connor. Show, ari thanks for pushing to.
- 31:53Speaker 3: TODAY i appreciate.
- 31:54Speaker 1: You how are?
- 31:54Speaker 8: You i'm? Great oh, see how are you happy to
- 31:57Speaker 8: hear that your dollar's doing all? Right but, yeah, no thanks,
- 31:59Speaker 8: MAN i appreciate.
- 32:00Speaker 1: You, yeah she's on the.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Men so excited about, that and equally excited about the
- 32:06Speaker 3: fact that we are now weeks away set a month's.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Away we are weeks away from the beginning of A
- 32:13Speaker 3: big twelve college football.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Season we'll start with things.
- 32:17Speaker 8: Here eighteen, days eighteen days to week.
- 32:21Speaker 3: Zero we're twenty three days away From utah kicking it
- 32:24Speaker 3: off Against, idaho but eighteen days away from your First
- 32:27Speaker 3: big twelve, game eighteen days away from those week zero.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Games so, yeah we're almost. There, Ari it's right around the.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Corner and we'll start with The university Of. Utah, obviously
- 32:39Speaker 3: we pay close attention and we got people going up
- 32:41Speaker 3: and gathering sound at. Camp has anything filtered into The
- 32:45Speaker 3: Ari tempkins sphere of interest from the emerging stories or
- 32:50Speaker 3: sound bites out Of utah football so.
- 32:52Speaker 8: Far, yeah that's a great. QUESTION i, mean, LOOK i
- 32:58Speaker 8: think as campus, underway and it's funny, because you, know
- 33:02Speaker 8: and doing work with The Dallas cowboys, too you, see
- 33:05Speaker 8: like there's so much noise and there's so much attention
- 33:09Speaker 8: being paid to what's happening in, practice AND i would
- 33:11Speaker 8: imagine even more so with what's happening In, utah given
- 33:15Speaker 8: you've got a you, know a new, uh a new.
- 33:18Speaker 8: Regime it's funny, though because it feels Like i'm and
- 33:22Speaker 8: not even in reference To utah paying more attention to
- 33:24Speaker 8: What Kyle whittingham is, saying you, know state, rivalry how
- 33:29Speaker 8: state rivalry is a big dealer, Now LIKE i saw
- 33:31Speaker 8: manswering questions about, that you, know and and he's just
- 33:36Speaker 8: did a blender in a way THAT i don't think
- 33:37Speaker 8: he ever anticipated or clearly ever was A Utah and
- 33:40Speaker 8: it's sort of fun to. Watch and, meanwhile like under the,
- 33:42Speaker 8: RADAR i Think morgan stally has his crew you, know dialed.
- 33:46Speaker 8: IN i just know the confidence that they showed And
- 33:51Speaker 8: scaley in particular on the biggest flaws or perceived clause
- 33:56Speaker 8: for the, team like they're being self aware is super
- 34:01Speaker 8: important for humanity as, people AND i think it's also
- 34:04Speaker 8: very important as a football coach and with a football.
- 34:07Speaker 8: Team AND i would say that there's no better example
- 34:10Speaker 8: of a coach being more self aware Than Morgan scalley
- 34:13Speaker 8: In utah in terms of, flaws perceived, flaws preceived weaknesses
- 34:19Speaker 8: and those kinds of.
- 34:20Speaker 3: Things, okay people are probably sick of hearing me talk
- 34:26Speaker 3: about this, kid because he's a true freshman who as
- 34:29Speaker 3: of yet hasn't done anything for The university Of. Utah
- 34:32Speaker 3: and obviously the hope is before he leaves here he's
- 34:34Speaker 3: going to be An All american and maybe a first
- 34:37Speaker 3: ROUND nfl draft. Pick but for, now he's the highest
- 34:41Speaker 3: rated recruit in the program's, history and he's on every
- 34:45Speaker 3: list of most important freshmen in The Big, twelve most
- 34:47Speaker 3: important freshman football players in the, nation things like. THAT
- 34:51Speaker 3: i put a question out for our listeners last week
- 34:54Speaker 3: whether or not they Think Kelvin obot starts over under
- 34:59Speaker 3: five even a.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Half games on the.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Season and there's a lot of wrinkles to this all
- 35:04Speaker 3: of WHICH i think you could probably infer without me
- 35:06Speaker 3: trying to, Explain But i'll ask you the over under
- 35:10Speaker 3: do you Think Kelvin obot starts more than half the
- 35:14Speaker 3: season or less than half the season at whatever position
- 35:17Speaker 3: along that offensive line For?
- 35:19Speaker 8: UTAH i would take the over on. THAT i would
- 35:23Speaker 8: take the over on. That you, know it's we live
- 35:26Speaker 8: in a world right now where expectations for the premier
- 35:33Speaker 8: positions at a young age are being, met and IT'S
- 35:38Speaker 8: i mean when you look at The Big twelve as a.
- 35:40Speaker 8: Whole West virginia is doing a similar dynamic here with
- 35:44Speaker 8: their left tackle And Kevin, brown who is not as
- 35:47Speaker 8: highly recruited As obot but is in position to be
- 35:51Speaker 8: their day one starter at left. TACKLE a couple of years,
- 35:54Speaker 8: Ago jordan Seton WHO'S i would say similarly ranked With Kevin.
- 35:58Speaker 8: Obot colorado started from day one and was pretty dog
- 36:02Speaker 8: gone good despite the offensive line around him being pretty.
- 36:05Speaker 8: TERRIBLE i, mean it's all around us in terms of
- 36:10Speaker 8: the development of athletes. Overall like we're in, baseball you,
- 36:13Speaker 8: know we're seeing guys gets the major leagues quicker than ever.
- 36:17Speaker 8: Before you, know The White sox dis Drafted Rock schlawski
- 36:20Speaker 8: FROM ucla with a number one, pick and there's talk
- 36:22Speaker 8: that the way he's ascending in a few weeks he
- 36:25Speaker 8: could be with The White sox by the end of the.
- 36:26Speaker 8: Year these things are unheard of in the last ten
- 36:29Speaker 8: twenty years in. Sports and like the quarterback, position we've
- 36:33Speaker 8: obviously seen a string of four or five star freshmen
- 36:36Speaker 8: started quarterback across college. Football, again like you look at the,
- 36:40Speaker 8: nineties in two even early two, thousands like, this this
- 36:44Speaker 8: was unheard. Of you, know Even tua when he came
- 36:46Speaker 8: into The National championship game was like a true freshman
- 36:49Speaker 8: coming in and that. Spot SO i think when you
- 36:53Speaker 8: look at, quarterbacks you look at left, tackles you look
- 36:55Speaker 8: at defensive, ends it almost seems like there's an expectation
- 36:58Speaker 8: where there are guys recruited that highly that they're going
- 37:01Speaker 8: to play right. Away and it's not just an, expectation
- 37:04Speaker 8: it's because of the development of these kids from a young.
- 37:06Speaker 8: Age it's they're becoming pros. Earlier they understand how to
- 37:11Speaker 8: take care of their bodies more at an earlier, age
- 37:13Speaker 8: they understand the what goes into it from a you,
- 37:18Speaker 8: know a nutritional, standpoint, earlier from a younger. Age SO
- 37:21Speaker 8: i think all these factors play into why these guys
- 37:24Speaker 8: not only are able to play, earlier but are able
- 37:26Speaker 8: to be better. Earlier So i'll take the over on.
- 37:28Speaker 8: That Everything i've heard about this kid tells me that
- 37:32Speaker 8: they'd be crazy not to find a spot for him
- 37:34Speaker 8: to start on that offensive line this, year especially given
- 37:37Speaker 8: the tackle position and what they're what they are losing
- 37:40Speaker 8: from last.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Year So i'm with you on.
- 37:43Speaker 3: THAT i think there's a lot Of utah fans that
- 37:45Speaker 3: are are dubious about whether or not they want to
- 37:49Speaker 3: take that. Risk but for him and for every other young,
- 37:52Speaker 3: player not only At utah but in this in this
- 37:56Speaker 3: big twelve, conference, RIGHT i feel as though the which
- 38:00Speaker 3: is all have to do this delicate you, know tightrope
- 38:03Speaker 3: walk Where, Okay i've got this young guy coming, in
- 38:06Speaker 3: Or i've got this transfer THAT i think is going
- 38:07Speaker 3: to be, great, whatever AND i could use them now
- 38:12Speaker 3: and MAYBE i you, know maybe he's eighty percent of
- 38:16Speaker 3: my returning, starter maybe he's ninety percent of my returning,
- 38:18Speaker 3: starter OR i COULD i could just go.
- 38:22Speaker 1: With like the old.
- 38:23Speaker 3: Reliable so where do you stand on where do you
- 38:27Speaker 3: think these coaches stand on the higher upside that might be,
- 38:30Speaker 3: riskier especially if You're Texas, tech YOUR, Byu You're, Houston You're,
- 38:36Speaker 3: arizona Your, utah where you think this year could be
- 38:39Speaker 3: a good year for, You You're Morgan, Scally you're, LIKE i
- 38:42Speaker 3: want to get this thing started off the right, way
- 38:43Speaker 3: BUT i also need to make sure That i'm you,
- 38:46Speaker 3: know developing these guys and building this thing for the.
- 38:48Speaker 1: Future where do you draw the line on that? Balance?
- 38:52Speaker 1: Sorry is it just the best player?
- 38:53Speaker 3: Available no matter how much you know upside there is
- 38:58Speaker 3: the timing doesn't.
- 38:58Speaker 1: MATTER i just need the guy going.
- 39:00Speaker 3: To produce this week the, most or do you play
- 39:03Speaker 3: a little bit of THE i might have to suffer
- 39:06Speaker 3: a little bit with some errors in the first half
- 39:08Speaker 3: of the, season thinking that by the end of the
- 39:10Speaker 3: year then he's really ready to be the GUY i
- 39:13Speaker 3: want him to.
- 39:13Speaker 8: Be that's a great, question AND i think if you
- 39:17Speaker 8: talk to fifteen different, people you probably would get fifteen different.
- 39:22Speaker 8: ANSWERS i, MEAN i would start with your offensive line,
- 39:25Speaker 8: coach AND i think you, know given the, experience giving his,
- 39:29Speaker 8: knowledge given what he's been, through and even though he's
- 39:33Speaker 8: new into coaching in this, capacity boy does he have
- 39:36Speaker 8: a ton of incredible experience at that position and playing
- 39:39Speaker 8: at a high. Level and so in some, Ways number,
- 39:42Speaker 8: One i'm going to defer to him who's the better.
- 39:44Speaker 8: Player that's my first question to, him who's the better
- 39:47Speaker 8: player in your? Mind? Okay and then now let's dig
- 39:50Speaker 8: deeper into who's the better player five weeks into the.
- 39:53Speaker 8: Season and If obat gets four weeks of, experience is
- 39:57Speaker 8: he going to be better if in week five than
- 39:59Speaker 8: this guy that we know about Chant I'm i'm usually
- 40:03Speaker 8: gonna be the ceiling, guy because you know, what the
- 40:08Speaker 8: it's great to have, old reliable and have the ceiling
- 40:10Speaker 8: that you know and that's. Established but if my, floor
- 40:14Speaker 8: and With, oba my floor is not very, low is
- 40:19Speaker 8: as close enough to that ceiling of the guy THAT i,
- 40:22Speaker 8: know Then i'm fine taking some lumps early on the.
- 40:26Speaker 8: Problem the difference here is in the. Development number. ONE
- 40:30Speaker 8: i think kids are mentally tougher in some, ways and
- 40:33Speaker 8: that Like i'm not worried about like if he starts
- 40:35Speaker 8: day one and then he doesn't grow and get better
- 40:39Speaker 8: and he's dealing with some, ADVERSITY i can mention him
- 40:41Speaker 8: for a few weeks And i'm not going to kill
- 40:43Speaker 8: him And i'm not going to kill his confidence BECAUSE
- 40:45Speaker 8: i think that that was always something in the back
- 40:47Speaker 8: of people's. Minds they talked about playing some of those you,
- 40:49Speaker 8: know those those phenoms quote unquote early. ON i don't
- 40:53Speaker 8: know that we've seen. THAT i, mean we've seen guys
- 40:55Speaker 8: that have bounced back from that kind of, stuff AND
- 40:57Speaker 8: i just think there's a metal toughness in an edge
- 40:59Speaker 8: that allows guys to get. Better but, ULTIMATELY i would
- 41:03Speaker 8: rather go with the guy with the higher, ceiling AND
- 41:05Speaker 8: i wouldn't be afraid to replace them If i'm four
- 41:08Speaker 8: or five weeks into the season And i'm not seeing that,
- 41:10Speaker 8: growth because to, me, again it's all about who's better
- 41:13Speaker 8: and and you, know if it is that they're close
- 41:15Speaker 8: enough and that we think the guy with the higher
- 41:17Speaker 8: ceiling and the five star freshmen and five weeks he's
- 41:20Speaker 8: gonna be significantly better and he's, not you, know Then
- 41:22Speaker 8: i'm probably gonna go with the guy who's, CEILING i,
- 41:24Speaker 8: know deeper into the, season because if the guy isn't
- 41:27Speaker 8: progressing by week, four week, five chances are he's not
- 41:31Speaker 8: going to progress by week eight or week, nine and
- 41:33Speaker 8: he's probably going to get better. Off and you, know
- 41:37Speaker 8: by learning and watching and, observing AND i, think, look everybody's,
- 41:39Speaker 8: different AND i would hope by Now Morgan scaley would
- 41:42Speaker 8: have a And Jordan gross too would have a good
- 41:43Speaker 8: sense of the personality of each of their, players especially
- 41:46Speaker 8: along that offensive. Line and you got to, know, like
- 41:49Speaker 8: is he the type of guy that wants to push
- 41:50Speaker 8: and see the type of guy that lacks, confidence you,
- 41:52Speaker 8: know or is he over the comp you. KNOW i
- 41:54Speaker 8: think so much of this, too for me depends on
- 41:56Speaker 8: the person and making sure that you, Know i'm doing
- 42:01Speaker 8: what's in the best interest of that person based on their,
- 42:04Speaker 8: personality because you, know no two people are alike that,
- 42:06Speaker 8: way and people are gonna be motivated and captivated by different.
- 42:10Speaker 3: THINGS espn put out an article about how much each
- 42:16Speaker 3: position costs in college football these, days and obviously this
- 42:20Speaker 3: is a major topic of discussion in The Big twelve
- 42:22Speaker 3: because you have to keep up with The joneses of
- 42:25Speaker 3: The Big ten and THE sec And Notre dame and
- 42:27Speaker 3: things like. That do we know definitively who the highest
- 42:31Speaker 3: paid player in This big twelve? Is because it seemed
- 42:33Speaker 3: like it was going to Be Brandon soresby At Texas,
- 42:36Speaker 3: tech and you know that is now a. Mess do
- 42:40Speaker 3: we know who the highest paid player in The big
- 42:42Speaker 3: twelve is this?
- 42:42Speaker 8: Year it's a great. Question i'm trying to think through.
- 42:47Speaker 8: THAT i would imagine it's still a player On Texas.
- 42:49Speaker 8: Tech i'm trying to. THINK i, Know Cutter bowley is
- 42:52Speaker 8: pretty cost a decent amount Of Arizona, state BUT i
- 42:56Speaker 8: don't know that HE i, mean he certainly is not
- 42:57Speaker 8: in The soresby. Category nor is he in The Sam
- 43:00Speaker 8: levitt or Or Josh hoover. Category i'm trying to think
- 43:03Speaker 8: of other incoming quarterbacks with the lines Of. BARNETT i you,
- 43:07Speaker 8: Know i'm sure that he cost you, know u US
- 43:10Speaker 8: ucs a ton of. Money my guess is it's probably
- 43:16Speaker 8: somebody At Texas. Tech it could be one of their
- 43:18Speaker 8: edg rushers that they. Added it could be, uh one
- 43:23Speaker 8: of the tackles either that they've added or. Maintained it's
- 43:26Speaker 8: a great question, though BECAUSE i don't think It's Keishaan,
- 43:30Speaker 8: henderson the five star and coming freshman for quarterback At. HOUSTON.
- 43:34Speaker 8: Uh do you have any? Thoughts so this is a
- 43:36Speaker 8: great question.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Here it was Easily.
- 43:38Speaker 8: Soresby Easily soworsby was the highest paid player in college.
- 43:41Speaker 3: Football, yeah it was, Like, okay it's Easily Brendan. Soresby,
- 43:44Speaker 3: okay now it's. Not so it's Not Will, hammond, right it's.
- 43:49Speaker 1: Not it's Not. Devin it's Not Devin Dan. Pierre so
- 43:52Speaker 1: is It? Boldie like you, said Is Bear bachmeier OR.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Lj martin in that?
- 43:56Speaker 3: Conversation BECAUSE byu is always like we're not going to
- 43:58Speaker 3: be the highest, bidder but but you're a high bedder
- 44:02Speaker 3: a lot of these guys so, right like what Is
- 44:05Speaker 3: arizona that they have to pay a bunch of money
- 44:08Speaker 3: to Keep Noah fafita? Around, SO i, MEAN i feel
- 44:11Speaker 3: like we have a pretty good sense of things everywhere
- 44:13Speaker 3: else in college football and in these other, conferences and
- 44:16Speaker 3: because of The soresby, SITUATION i think that that question
- 44:19Speaker 3: goes for me a little bit unanswered until we find
- 44:23Speaker 3: out better. Information but the REASON i asked that question
- 44:27Speaker 3: in the, beginning and this will be the last thing
- 44:29Speaker 3: before we let you. Go you, know as we see
- 44:32Speaker 3: this thing trending and you hear all these coaches warning, about,
- 44:35Speaker 3: hey you got to slow down this arms.
- 44:36Speaker 1: Race it's.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Unsustainable even the big dogs say it's, unsustainable Even oregon
- 44:41Speaker 3: In michigan And Ohio state And alabama are saying it's.
- 44:44Speaker 3: Unsustainable how much longer can Not Texas, tech but the
- 44:50Speaker 3: rest of The big twelve Sustain if we don't Get
- 44:53Speaker 3: congress intervening and we don't get how much longer can
- 44:56Speaker 3: this thing run out before it truly becomes that become
- 45:00Speaker 3: unsustainable at The big twelve, level with the exception Of Texas.
- 45:04Speaker 8: Tech, WELL i, MEAN i would tell you at this,
- 45:07Speaker 8: point at The big twelve, level it is very. Unsustainable
- 45:10Speaker 8: it is also, funny as you alluded to that the
- 45:13Speaker 8: folks that are setting the market here are the ones
- 45:16Speaker 8: saying it's. Unsustainable but you're the one setting the, market
- 45:19Speaker 8: so you're you're clearly proving that it is. Sustainable they
- 45:23Speaker 8: just obviously don't want to spend. IT i, mean we're
- 45:25Speaker 8: talking about how much money that they're spending a lot of.
- 45:28Speaker 8: Programs michigan is a great example of, this to, uh you,
- 45:34Speaker 8: know to pay coaches not to, coach to pay administrators
- 45:38Speaker 8: not to. ADMINISTRATE i mean That michigan is paying a
- 45:40Speaker 8: ton for. That so you, know the coffers are you,
- 45:44Speaker 8: know are, full and they're obviously having these insane expenditures right.
- 45:48Speaker 8: Now But I'm i'm a fair market, guy and quite,
- 45:52Speaker 8: frankly the market continues to rise because the market value
- 45:56Speaker 8: still hasn't been reached for these. Players it is an
- 45:58Speaker 8: unfortunate situation and for The big twelve because it all
- 46:02Speaker 8: goes back to the fact that The big ten and
- 46:03Speaker 8: THE sec are making literally twice as much money year
- 46:07Speaker 8: over year in their television. Revenue so WHEREAS byu and
- 46:12Speaker 8: many of these Other texas TECH U tom these programs
- 46:14Speaker 8: may have you, know really influential boosters that carry you,
- 46:19Speaker 8: know heavy. Checkbooks remember the checks they're writing are just
- 46:22Speaker 8: trying to make up at this point for the you,
- 46:25Speaker 8: know for the the money that The big twelve schools
- 46:28Speaker 8: aren't getting relative to The big ten in THE. Sec
- 46:31Speaker 8: so like they're only making up for what is the
- 46:34Speaker 8: difference between what The big twelve is getting versus The
- 46:37Speaker 8: big ten in THE, sec WHEREAS sec And big ten,
- 46:39Speaker 8: schools who are also deep, pocketed are making that money
- 46:43Speaker 8: twice as much money as everybody else and then adding.
- 46:46Speaker 6: Very lucrative boosters to the.
- 46:47Speaker 8: Table i'm looking At michigan specifically, here who have extremely rich,
- 46:51Speaker 8: boosters lots of, them and again they're already in front
- 46:54Speaker 8: of everybody you, know it's really, Sting. Sean one of
- 46:58Speaker 8: the things THAT i was looking in two is the
- 47:01Speaker 8: percentage of the homegrown talent in The Big. Twelve The
- 47:04Speaker 8: Big twelve has two top ten programs nationally in percentage
- 47:09Speaker 8: of homegrown. Talent, basically what percentage of your roster start
- 47:13Speaker 8: at your school as a true? Freshman two want to
- 47:16Speaker 8: get stab at who those two. Are one of them's
- 47:21Speaker 8: in the. State it's it's not your, school SO BYU
- 47:26Speaker 8: yep In, texas but it Ain't Texas, tech.
- 47:30Speaker 3: SO byu In, HOUSTON TCU wowcu top.
- 47:34Speaker 8: Ten now the, third if we're looking at The Big twelve,
- 47:38Speaker 8: specifically number three in The Big twelve Is Texas tech
- 47:41Speaker 8: at about seventy six, percent which is forty second. Nationally
- 47:47Speaker 8: so The Big twelve has two teams the top ten
- 47:50Speaker 8: of homegrown, talent And Texas tech is third at forty.
- 47:55Speaker 8: Second that's a big problem for this conference because that's
- 47:59Speaker 8: what not. Sustainable that is not what's not, sustainable because,
- 48:04Speaker 8: look you're gonna have to pay for four and five star,
- 48:06Speaker 8: players there's no doubt about. It but if the price
- 48:08Speaker 8: tag as high as it would be for a, transfer
- 48:10Speaker 8: ESPECIALLY i think given the nature and if you've got
- 48:13Speaker 8: a guy that's let's say a four, star and you've
- 48:15Speaker 8: got him on a deal and you say, like, hey
- 48:18Speaker 8: you hit certain thresholds and now it's you, know now
- 48:20Speaker 8: you're your revenue is going. Up but that's that's WHERE
- 48:24Speaker 8: i think The big twelve is really missing. Out and
- 48:26Speaker 8: The big twelve has become a transient. Conference AND i
- 48:29Speaker 8: think we know that, acdotally but analytically it's it's proving
- 48:33Speaker 8: itself out, too AND i think THAT oc is more
- 48:36Speaker 8: unsustainable than anything.
- 48:37Speaker 3: Else all, right you're the. Best appreciate you giving me
- 48:41Speaker 3: some time. Today keep killing it on all The big twelve,
- 48:44Speaker 3: Stuff keep killing on the cowboys.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Stuff, man that's what a great.
- 48:47Speaker 8: Thing appreciate your, brother take care and you're the. Best
- 48:50Speaker 8: appreciate you very.
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- 51:58Speaker 3: are elbowing them and being, like, hey did you know
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- 52:02Speaker 1: Night so IF i don't, know how DO i find?
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- 53:22Speaker 5: Talk about what's going on while you.
- 53:23Speaker 7: SLEEP i mean some people find out that they stop
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- 56:33Speaker 1: Insider how are, you?
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- 56:35Speaker 12: Up how are we? Doing we enter our way close
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- 56:40Speaker 3: Close eighteen days away from week, zero twenty three days
- 56:42Speaker 3: away from A thursday night game for The university Of
- 56:46Speaker 3: utah twenty five days. AWAY i suppose that makes it
- 56:49Speaker 3: for The Brigham Young University, cougars.
- 56:52Speaker 1: Who got kind of a weird.
- 56:55Speaker 3: Distraction as far as headlines over the, WEEKEND i don't
- 56:58Speaker 3: know where it came. From if you do know where
- 57:01Speaker 3: it came, from But Brian santiago rumors stirred up over the,
- 57:05Speaker 3: weekend and as far AS i could tell from my limited,
- 57:09Speaker 3: RESEARCH i don't know if there's any meat on the bone.
- 57:12Speaker 3: Here but what was your reaction when you saw The
- 57:15Speaker 3: Brian santiago?
- 57:16Speaker 12: Rumors, yeah a lot of, conversation a lot of, rumors
- 57:21Speaker 12: and for the first time in, history The Buy Athletic
- 57:24Speaker 12: department posted on cougarboard a fish McBride shutting that down, Saying,
- 57:29Speaker 12: Hey i'm with. Him he's the ad at B. Yu
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- 57:34Speaker 12: Night Shane reese thereke four kenth to president and the
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- 57:41Speaker 12: and you know they tried to meet everyone where they,
- 57:44Speaker 12: were which is On, COUGARBOARD i. Guess so, YEAH i
- 57:48Speaker 12: Saw Brian santiago football practice, yesterday and so it seems
- 57:52Speaker 12: like full steam ahead With Mark hill coming over From,
- 57:55Speaker 12: kentucky which IS i think a great. Hire a guy
- 57:58Speaker 12: that you know was in the mix for the. Ad
- 58:00Speaker 12: nice to get your one. End maybe you're number Two.
- 58:02Speaker 12: CANADA i don't know if he was number, two but
- 58:04Speaker 12: he was in the. MIX a lot of experience in
- 58:06Speaker 12: THE sec and At, kentucky and so ANOTHER byu win With,
- 58:11Speaker 12: kentucky you, know in recruiting of, sorts which is always.
- 58:13Speaker 3: Good do you think we see the athletic, department the university,
- 58:21Speaker 3: itself any like OFFICIAL byu capacities continuing to post on
- 58:28Speaker 3: Cougar board fan message, boards whether It's Cougar board or
- 58:32Speaker 3: anything associated with the youths or anything associated with any.
- 58:35Speaker 3: Team they are dicey, places and SO i understand why
- 58:40Speaker 3: a lot of, times you, know university official accounts or
- 58:44Speaker 3: individuals with obvious ties directly to the university or to
- 58:48Speaker 3: an athletic department often steer clear of such, things and
- 58:52Speaker 3: like you, said that precedent was broken AT byu over the.
- 58:55Speaker 3: Weekend do you think that that'll be a one time.
- 58:58Speaker 12: Thing i'm thinking, probably but maybe it's kind Of, hey
- 59:04Speaker 12: when when merit did this, Happens i'm not sure what
- 59:07Speaker 12: kind of, precedents the sets and. Not it was certainly.
- 59:10Speaker 12: Unprecedented and you, Know Tyson, hutchins one of the GUYS
- 59:14Speaker 12: i really like in athletics associate. Ad he, Said, hey
- 59:17Speaker 12: we went where the people are and we're adjusting the
- 59:20Speaker 12: kind of modern don't need a formal press. Release it's very,
- 59:23Speaker 12: antiquated he. Said so they chose that, option and so
- 59:27Speaker 12: it certainly was, unique got some, attention but seems like
- 59:30Speaker 12: full steam ahead and back to what you were, saying
- 59:32Speaker 12: kind of in terms of, DISTRACTION i think during fall,
- 59:36Speaker 12: camp you know it could. Be but the players and
- 59:39Speaker 12: Coaches i've talked to literally a few of them were, like,
- 59:41Speaker 12: so what's going? On like they don't, Know like even
- 59:45Speaker 12: though it's the third floor of The Student athlete building
- 59:47Speaker 12: down the second floor, there they're in the weight room
- 59:49Speaker 12: on the first floor out in the fifth you, know
- 59:51Speaker 12: they are literally just about that grind right. Now and
- 59:55Speaker 12: so it unlike The big Twelve championship week Where colonie
- 59:59Speaker 12: And pens nearly. Happened that was a massive distraction that
- 1:00:03Speaker 12: that CRIPPLED. BYU i think emotionally a little. BIT i
- 1:00:07Speaker 12: thought it'd be a rallying, point perhaps the. Opposite although
- 1:00:10Speaker 12: Tech tech was, good you tip the, cat but that didn't.
- 1:00:12Speaker 12: Help it really. Didn't it was great to Retain, klny
- 1:00:15Speaker 12: but it was a. DISTRACTION i don't think this is
- 1:00:18Speaker 12: a distraction in the same way at.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: All, YEAH i GUESS i should be.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: CLEAR i think it was a distraction for, fans like
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't think, players like you.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Said they're not on the internet right now right like you.
- 1:00:31Speaker 12: Are just they are dialed in and.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Busy you.
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: Are you are living in your. Playbook you are trying
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: to get as much sleep as you. Can when you're not,
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: sleeping you're trying to.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: EAT i don't.
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: Think that, Players AND i also don't think and respect
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: to all the athletic directors out there, RIGHT i just
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: don't think that most players give a you know, what
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: who the athletic director is at their, school right it
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: unless you.
- 1:00:56Speaker 12: Are the position, coach their, coordinator their head. Coach, like,
- 1:00:59Speaker 12: yeah there's a couple of people that they really care.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: About, yeah it's just you, know like the big picture. Stuff,
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: obviously having a great athletic director is, awesome and maybe,
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: maybe you, know Maybe Brian santiago has good relationships with
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: certain players and so they would be. Bumped but just
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: the rank and file player in a football program who
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: your athletic director is is like twelve layers removed from
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: anything that's relevant to your daily. Life SO i don't think, that,
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: yeah it would be something that really maybe it Distracts
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: kolani for five, seconds but, again he's got a lot
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: to worry. About AND i want to jump to a
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: conversation that was recorded and we saw shout out to our,
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Guy Ben, krittle AND i saw you commenting on this as.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Well Kalani saitake WAS i won't say uncommonly, transparent because
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: he's very transparent type of, guy BUT i think there's
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: certain subject matter that he prefers to take a more
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: like diplomatic approach on and and likes to you, know,
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: hey that's a little bit above my pay grade kind
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: of a.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: Situation. Uh but he the conversation With Ben.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: Krittle he talked about, resources and he talked about shortcomings and,
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: resources and he talked about the need for support on
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: levels THAT i think football coaches wish they didn't have
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: to talk about this stuff and think about this. Stuff
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: but he took the time and he talked about, it
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: AND i, wanted you, know you to elucidate your thoughts
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: on the matter and what it might mean For, kilani
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: for B, yu and really for college football a large
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: BECAUSE i can tell, you as someone with a more
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: crimson colored, viewpoint Watching kilani say some of these, Things i'm, like, well,
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: geez how bad is it if he it is not
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: perfect at B, yu how bad is it?
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: Elsewhere you?
- 1:02:41Speaker 12: Know, yeah he wants to win and he wants to
- 1:02:44Speaker 12: do it at b y U A AND i believe
- 1:02:47Speaker 12: that for a long TIME buyu has done what he.
- 1:02:50Speaker 12: Said he, said we're doing more with. Less we're asked
- 1:02:52Speaker 12: to do the most with, less and it is by
- 1:02:55Speaker 12: in the lower echelon of repshare and. Nion actually, no
- 1:02:59Speaker 12: but what is he Coming he's comparing among the big,
- 1:03:01Speaker 12: twelve he, said not texta Tex he wants to be
- 1:03:04Speaker 12: in the, operas want in the. League and what he
- 1:03:07Speaker 12: said he's been privy to is numbers in The Penn state.
- 1:03:11Speaker 12: Situation after twenty twenty and twenty, One oregon In washington came.
- 1:03:14Speaker 12: KNOCKING i believe the other big time schools will come
- 1:03:17Speaker 12: knocking after this. Season For, klanie he's a hot. Commodity
- 1:03:21Speaker 12: Kevin young GETS nba interest every. Year by has two
- 1:03:24Speaker 12: guys at the high profile coaching, spot so that will
- 1:03:27Speaker 12: be courted every. Year this is this is what you.
- 1:03:30Speaker 12: Want you want great coaches that are. Courted and so
- 1:03:33Speaker 12: because he's had access to this, information he's saying to
- 1:03:36Speaker 12: be at that, level we got to get to a
- 1:03:38Speaker 12: high level with, resources and so certainly it seemed like
- 1:03:41Speaker 12: to me there was some frustration there that he doesn't
- 1:03:45Speaker 12: commonly sort of show in those. Situations BUT i also
- 1:03:49Speaker 12: think he feels, like, Listen i've Seen i've been privy
- 1:03:52Speaker 12: to this. Stuff NOW i almost went To Penn state
- 1:03:55Speaker 12: LIKE i came. Back he LOVES, byu he said he's
- 1:03:58Speaker 12: previously he's wanted to be The. POLYNESIAN i think he's
- 1:04:00Speaker 12: becoming that and hopefully you know that can occur so
- 1:04:05Speaker 12: THE byu can continue to do what it does at
- 1:04:08Speaker 12: a high. Level he also mentioned in the video THAT
- 1:04:10Speaker 12: i thought was. Interesting we want access to certain players
- 1:04:13Speaker 12: that we haven't been able to get. Here that's through
- 1:04:16Speaker 12: more funds and more, resources and certainly that's the goal for.
- 1:04:18Speaker 12: Everyone he's not the first coach to, say, hey we need.
- 1:04:21Speaker 12: More every coach wants. More but to see What buoy
- 1:04:25Speaker 12: has done the last couple of years when Finally boy
- 1:04:29Speaker 12: gets into a power for. League last year was their
- 1:04:32Speaker 12: first year of a full share of THE tv. Revenue
- 1:04:35Speaker 12: first years was about nineteen or twenty, MAIL i, believe
- 1:04:38Speaker 12: and then last year was thirty two, mails thirty one
- 1:04:41Speaker 12: point seven plus other. Stuff now bo he's competing for
- 1:04:45Speaker 12: championships and what can they do with? MORE i think
- 1:04:48Speaker 12: they can keep going up AND i THINK i think
- 1:04:50Speaker 12: That's plani's message Does look what we've done so. Far
- 1:04:53Speaker 12: if we get, more we'll take care of it in
- 1:04:55Speaker 12: a way that is THE BYU a and will. Win
- 1:04:58Speaker 12: let's go.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: Talking a little BIT byu football With Jerem jordan here
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- 1:05:11Speaker 3: Uh from a player, perspective right, now who is standing,
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: out who is climbing the? Ladder who is getting the
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: mentions AT byu football camp because you gotta see a
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: couple of these names definitely have a lot of returning,
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: production but you have to see a couple of names
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: FOR byu emerge in these position.
- 1:05:32Speaker 12: Battles the number one guy for me that's really been
- 1:05:36Speaker 12: interesting is true freshman Legend glasgow At. Lehigh he has
- 1:05:39Speaker 12: really inserted himself to the point Where Petsi sataki is.
- 1:05:42Speaker 12: Sam this guy's going to play a, lot making a
- 1:05:44Speaker 12: ton of plays over the shoulder. Stuff they can run
- 1:05:47Speaker 12: any kind of speed situation with, Him jet sweet. Slot
- 1:05:50Speaker 12: he's PLAYING X y N.
- 1:05:51Speaker 5: Z that is.
- 1:05:53Speaker 12: Surprising part of the reason is one legends fantastic and
- 1:05:57Speaker 12: two there's an opportunity there with No chase Rob, Snow Parker,
- 1:06:00Speaker 12: kingston No Carson ryan at tight, end there's past catchers
- 1:06:04Speaker 12: are going that raise their hand and are. Ready they're
- 1:06:07Speaker 12: gonna get, Targets they're gonna get. Catches so he's done
- 1:06:09Speaker 12: a great. Job Braxton, lindsay a defensive end out Of
- 1:06:12Speaker 12: arkansas true, freshman could be a guy that's in the.
- 1:06:15Speaker 12: Mix and the two Deep Evan johnson cornerbacks FOR yu
- 1:06:18Speaker 12: who could be one of the highest drafted corners next
- 1:06:21Speaker 12: year in vou, history if he goes out the fifth year,
- 1:06:24Speaker 12: thing he could come. Back we'll see he is looking even,
- 1:06:27Speaker 12: better WHICH i would argue he's one of the top
- 1:06:29Speaker 12: ten corners In. America so those are some of the
- 1:06:32Speaker 12: guys that have stuck. Out Jojo phillips at receivers kind
- 1:06:34Speaker 12: of asserting himself to try and be wide receiver number
- 1:06:36Speaker 12: One Walker lyons gets a lot of targets From, bear
- 1:06:40Speaker 12: WHICH i think he'll lead this team in. Catches so,
- 1:06:43Speaker 12: yeah there's a lot of guys making. Plays they're looking
- 1:06:45Speaker 12: good and ton of. Experience and the guys that they've
- 1:06:48Speaker 12: brought in in certain spots as, transfers they have filled
- 1:06:51Speaker 12: in well and taken up those roles like The Walker,
- 1:06:54Speaker 12: Lions Roger sellia Pocket, combo that's Your Carson ryan. Spot
- 1:06:58Speaker 12: like they've done a nice. Job the receivers filling in
- 1:07:00Speaker 12: and that's a big question mark defense very a lot of.
- 1:07:04Speaker 12: Speed according To colonia on day, One Kelly pepinga has
- 1:07:06Speaker 12: a talented. Group so so, far so GOOD. Byu doing
- 1:07:09Speaker 12: great things In Paul.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: Camp have you seen THE espn article From Max olson
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: about sort of the market price for players by?
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Position have you had a chance to read.
- 1:07:23Speaker 12: THAT i saw the, HEADLINE i did not read.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: It, okay so as far As i've read, it AND
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: i think the ONLY byu player mentioned because they're just giving,
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: examples Is Kadu, lauabe who's a linebacker who transferred in,
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: obviously AND i think is going to cause a lot
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: of people problems and we're very unhappy about it up
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: here In Salt Lake.
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: City but whatever the.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: Linebacker range according to the article, is you, know three
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: to seven hundred thousand dollars with certain, outliers And Katie
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: luabe was mentioned as an. Outlier and this is one
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: of those things where you, know we've just had a
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: conversation where Color he's been pretty open about resources and
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: doing more with less and things like.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: That are players on THIS byu.
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: Football team that there's always this insistence it's not just
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: about money. Here it's about being in the right place
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: and fit and this is a special.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: Spot And i'm not disputing any of. That but our.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: Players Like Katu, luave Like Bear, bachmeyer now Like Evan,
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: johnson some of these guys that you just, mentioned are
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: they being paid to your knowledge at the at or
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: near the top of the, market like the national, market
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: the average market not not being expected like coaches, are
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: or coaches have been historically AT byu to take kind
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: of like the you, know the special, place wonderful environment.
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: Discount are the players being given the money that would
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: be you, know market.
- 1:08:50Speaker 12: Price my sense is THE yu is, competitive but it's
- 1:08:54Speaker 12: not the highest bidder on many. Guys you, know in
- 1:08:57Speaker 12: the Ajad bons sort of quote unquote, switeched everyone has
- 1:09:00Speaker 12: thrown around a seven million dollar. Number aj disputed that.
- 1:09:03Speaker 12: Himself he goes it's not seven, millions and there were
- 1:09:05Speaker 12: others that offered the same. Price, right he wanted The
- 1:09:08Speaker 12: Kevin young. Experience but of COURSE nil needs to be.
- 1:09:11Speaker 12: Competitive it can't be naive and act like, no they'll
- 1:09:13Speaker 12: do it for a quarter of the. Cost BUT i
- 1:09:16Speaker 12: am aware that, many if not, most of the team
- 1:09:20Speaker 12: have sacrificed in some way multiple offers from good power
- 1:09:24Speaker 12: programs to be AT yu because they love. It and
- 1:09:27Speaker 12: everybody's got a number where you would leave kind of
- 1:09:29Speaker 12: your comfort to go to a new. Situation but many
- 1:09:32Speaker 12: of these guys have CHOSEN byu because they like it
- 1:09:35Speaker 12: and THE nil is enough or. Good, Right so In kid's,
- 1:09:39Speaker 12: Case i'm sure THAT bya was, like you know, what
- 1:09:42Speaker 12: we need a big time back to Replace Jack. Kelly
- 1:09:44Speaker 12: let's get a competitive number in. There kid certainly has
- 1:09:46Speaker 12: connections TO boi grew up a GO a, fan and
- 1:09:50Speaker 12: so it's cool to have him, back and perhaps he's
- 1:09:52Speaker 12: even here next. Year let's see how the season. Goes
- 1:09:54Speaker 12: but with this fIF year, thing WHICH i think people
- 1:09:57Speaker 12: are forgetting about, it LIKE. Lj martin can return next
- 1:10:00Speaker 12: year if you want.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: That exist Like jem don't say, that.
- 1:10:03Speaker 12: Not going to but like he's gonna have a great
- 1:10:06Speaker 12: year and, leave but like he. Could like the eligibility,
- 1:10:09Speaker 12: thing it's it's crazy Like cad AND lj are fourth year,
- 1:10:13Speaker 12: seniors which by the, way we're still doing fresh and
- 1:10:16Speaker 12: sophomore junior senior and THEN i think it's just a
- 1:10:18Speaker 12: fifth year but there are no red, Shirts like it
- 1:10:21Speaker 12: changes the game a little. Bit but, YEAH i believe
- 1:10:24Speaker 12: THE oa is competitive and it's not a question of
- 1:10:27Speaker 12: whether vous and for most power programs your, starters can
- 1:10:30Speaker 12: you get good, Starters LIKE i think a lot of
- 1:10:32Speaker 12: the main programs we're talking about they have competitive Rev
- 1:10:36Speaker 12: sharon AND I am and so on and so. Forth
- 1:10:37Speaker 12: it's kind of like can you get enough to get
- 1:10:40Speaker 12: some quality backups and retain. PEOPLE i think the story
- 1:10:43Speaker 12: of the off season FOR byu was the fact that
- 1:10:46Speaker 12: they did not lose a single starter to the. Portal that's.
- 1:10:49Speaker 12: UNBELIEVABLE i would. Argue they lost one two deep, Guy
- 1:10:52Speaker 12: Tavian beasley, left who was the safety that was a backup.
- 1:10:56Speaker 12: Safety that's. It that is. It they lost One Max
- 1:11:00Speaker 12: alford linebacker who was kind of a thirstring guy To.
- 1:11:03Speaker 12: Michigan that's crazy That moore didn't go With Jay. Hill,
- 1:11:07Speaker 12: like this is a special group that wants to be
- 1:11:09Speaker 12: together and they are hungry to win a. Championship they
- 1:11:12Speaker 12: are kicked off and putting in the work to try
- 1:11:15Speaker 12: and be a championship level, team AND i think they've
- 1:11:17Speaker 12: got the.
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: TALENT i want you to answer one of your own
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: questions FROM. Tv is it more likely THAT. Lj martin
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: has a record setting, season cements himself as maybe the
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: all time great running back AT vyu from a career,
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: standpoint and improves his overall numbers production from last year
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: where he was to refresh everyone to the chagrin Of utah.
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: Fans the offensive player of The year in The Big
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: Twelve conference is that more likely that he takes another step,
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: forward or that his, production even if he's a great
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: player again and healthy, again his production maybe dips a
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: little bit because the depth is better Because moa is,
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: healthy because they have some other, options and you, know
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: it's more of a bi committee.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Situation which of those is a more likely outcome for?
- 1:12:07Speaker 12: You fewer yards is more likely for me Because fionim is.
- 1:12:13Speaker 12: Healthy they Like Davon, ekka another Freshman natalie had that
- 1:12:16Speaker 12: played With Legend glasgow is kind of a number Three Preston,
- 1:12:19Speaker 12: rex kind of your change of pace, guy and you
- 1:12:20Speaker 12: can swing it to him with a quick, pass or
- 1:12:22Speaker 12: he can run outside the tackles pretty. WELL i think
- 1:12:25Speaker 12: the death is better AND i don't WANT. Lj martin
- 1:12:28Speaker 12: to have a crazy year. RUSHING i want him to
- 1:12:31Speaker 12: be used a little less so that he's fresh. Later
- 1:12:33Speaker 12: Boa he got caught in a situation where WHEN lj
- 1:12:35Speaker 12: hurt his shoulder Against Iowa, state he wasn't quite the.
- 1:12:38Speaker 12: Same he came back a little early because he wanted
- 1:12:39Speaker 12: to play against text to. Text he wasn't one hundred.
- 1:12:41Speaker 12: Percent he's not one hundred percent of The Big tell title.
- 1:12:43Speaker 12: Game he does even play in the Pot Yards bowl
- 1:12:46Speaker 12: And Baron bachmeyer had to shoulder a lot in the
- 1:12:49Speaker 12: past game in his development happened a, lot which was
- 1:12:52Speaker 12: great in that. Regard SO i would prefer that he
- 1:12:54Speaker 12: does not have that kind of. Year not BECAUSE i
- 1:12:56Speaker 12: don't like AL. J it's BECAUSE i think more team
- 1:12:59Speaker 12: success will have happened IF lj is a little fresher.
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: Later, jerem what are you going to do for the
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: next twenty five days to prepare yourself FOR ba football?
- 1:13:10Speaker 12: Season continue to go to. Practice not pay attention TO
- 1:13:15Speaker 12: nfl exhibitions because they're completely. Worthless continue to follow the
- 1:13:20Speaker 12: electrical Station twitter account that has been created to Follow, no.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: No that's why did you bring that?
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- 1:13:51Speaker 3: were talking about Is George kittle going to be back
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: week one from his achilles, injury AND i was just,
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: like don't start talking about injuries for the forty nine ers, again.
- 1:13:59Speaker 12: Please, yeah let's let's not start that. Again, yeah but everyone's.
- 1:14:04Speaker 12: STOKED i love. It, hey we're seeing practice, Highlights we're having.
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- 1:15:57Speaker 3: medical stuff can get real really. Dicey but you, guys
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: you guys can work with insurance companies to make this
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: very manageable for.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: People.
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- 1:16:17Speaker 7: their sleep, tests we also take their insurance information and
- 1:16:19Speaker 7: we do a complimentary benefit check for, them so when
- 1:16:22Speaker 7: they come in to meet with the, provider we've got
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- 1:16:29Speaker 7: of people's deductibles are, Met SO i, mean the end
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- 1:20:35Speaker 12: The.
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: Athletic what's. It it's called The Audible. Podcast what's it, Called, James.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: Yeah it's The Audible.
- 1:20:40Speaker 13: Podcast It's Ralph, russo who used to be With Associated,
- 1:20:43Speaker 13: press he's now with The. Athletic Stuart, mandel our, guy
- 1:20:48Speaker 13: friend of the friend of the, Station Stuart, mandel you
- 1:20:51Speaker 13: guys know. Him and Then Bruce, pelman your guy From
- 1:20:55Speaker 13: Fox sports and The athletic as.
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: Well they do a.
- 1:20:58Speaker 13: Podcast they've been doing comp nce previews and this time
- 1:21:01Speaker 13: it's the big Twelfth.
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: Turn, Okay so part of anyone doing these over unders
- 1:21:07Speaker 3: or anyone doing these previews is they take The vegas
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: over under on wins and they, say all, RIGHT i
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: think this team is going.
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: To hit the over or the. Under and this is
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: a three man.
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: Show so how many of the Three james Took utah
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: to hit the over of eight and a half wins
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: on the. Season None, Feldman, mandel And Ralph russo are
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: all taking the under on The utah football.
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: Schedule despite what we have talked about all.
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: Season, long or all off season, LONG i should say
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: the relatively friendly nature of this. Schedule remember It's, Idaho,
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: Arkansas Utah. State if you don't start three and zero,
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: there everyone's going to hit panic. Buttons At Iowa, state
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: we're talking about a, struggling Rebuilding Iowa state. Team replace
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: the second most second most are most players in The big,
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: twelve more Than utah did by a long. Stretch In,
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: utah we have to acknowledge had to replace some important.
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: Guys right that's on the, Road SO i guess there's
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: some difficulties there when you're talking about the first true
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: road game for a new coaching. Staff all, right, fine
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: BUT i think you Win Iowa. State that's four in a.
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: Row that's, four and Oh kansas at, Home. KANSAS i
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be great this. Year then
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: you're At, Colorado. COLORADO i want you to go right
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: now and look at The university Of colorado.
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: Roster all, right we're gonna.
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: Play a little, fun fun guessing game with The university
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: Of colorado roster AFTER i make this. Point they are
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: a little league team in a lot of, ways And
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: i'll get to the REASON i say that in just
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: a second, Here but we're looking at The utah football,
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: schedule and it Goes colorado on the road to make
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: you six and, oho you should Be.
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: Houston we have to.
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: Acknowledge october twenty fourth is a tough game for This
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: university Of utah football. Team very well coached, team very athletic,
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: team and a team that's got an excellent quarterback coming
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: back the same way that you. Do so maybe that
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: one is a home game where you could stub your.
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: Toe all, right even in the worst case, scenario it
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: seems you're probably six and one. There then you're on
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: the road At. Cincinnati that's a. Win cincinnati's got so
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: many things to figure. OUT byu at, home that's a
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: coin toss. Game you're glad you have it at home.
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: Again i'm going worst case scenario here for This utah football. Team,
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: Right let's say you lose that. One now you're seven and.
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: Two you go on the road To arizona AND tcu
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: and back to back. Weeks in the worst case, scenario
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: you lose both of those games and you end up
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: being an eight and four football team after you Beat
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: West virginia in your final home game of the. Year
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: so beyond, that that feels like for, me the worst case.
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: Scenario that means.
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: That, Feldman mandel And, Company art And russo are saying
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: that they believe the worst case, scenario in my, opinion
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: is the reality For utah football this. SEASON i can't
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: get on board with. THAT i know THAT i look
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: at things through crimson colored glasses. SOMETIMES i know THAT
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: i have more bias and more of a relationship with
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: This utah football coaching. Staff that makes, me even though
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: we're supposed to be, objective makes me root for their.
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: Success we're on the home of The, utes and obviously
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: it's better for me personally and better for our show
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: if that team is. Better But i'm just looking at
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: this schedule AND i don't. FORESEE i, mean if it goes,
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: terribly you're probably still an eight win. TEAM i don't
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: think it's gonna go, terribly which makes you a nine win.
- 1:24:54Speaker 3: TEAM i, think what AM i?
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: Missing?
- 1:24:56Speaker 13: James, YEAH i think they're a nine win team at
- 1:25:00Speaker 13: the very least this. Year eight's just a bridge too
- 1:25:04Speaker 13: far for. Me as far as projecting their. Losses there
- 1:25:08Speaker 13: are four potential losses on this, schedule but as with every,
- 1:25:15Speaker 13: year you're not going to lose all four of those
- 1:25:20Speaker 13: toughest toughest games on the.
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: Schedule those four.
- 1:25:22Speaker 13: Games we've talked about it off, air you've talked about
- 1:25:24Speaker 13: it on aeroc OBVIOUSLY, Byu, Houston arizona AND. Tcu those
- 1:25:32Speaker 13: are the four that are losable. Games in my, Opinion
- 1:25:37Speaker 13: utah never AND byu for that, better they just never
- 1:25:41Speaker 13: lose all all of their losable games when they're good,
- 1:25:45Speaker 13: teams and make no mistake about. It this, Year utah
- 1:25:49Speaker 13: is going to be a good. TEAM i think THAT
- 1:25:51Speaker 13: i could see them losing three of those, games B
- 1:25:55Speaker 13: yu being the toughest on the, Schedule arizona probably being
- 1:25:58Speaker 13: the next, toughest and then one Of houston OR. Tcu
- 1:26:02Speaker 13: BUT i would probably predict a ten and two season
- 1:26:04Speaker 13: where they split those four. Games that's WHERE i land On.
- 1:26:08Speaker 13: UTAH i get, nationally and that's what these guys are
- 1:26:13Speaker 13: as far As Bruce, Feldman Stuart, mandel And Ralph, russo
- 1:26:16Speaker 13: they're national college football reporters and now. PODCASTERS i get
- 1:26:22Speaker 13: why with all the, uncertainty a bunch of new coaches
- 1:26:25Speaker 13: on the, roster including the head, coach a handful of
- 1:26:29Speaker 13: starters that they lost To michigan AND. Ucla in the
- 1:26:32Speaker 13: case Of Tao. Johnson that is a lot to that's
- 1:26:38Speaker 13: a lot to ask to make up for, that AND
- 1:26:42Speaker 13: i can see why they're thinking, that BUT i just
- 1:26:45Speaker 13: we're around.
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: It we're a lot closer to this.
- 1:26:47Speaker 13: Situation it feels like they're going to make up for
- 1:26:49Speaker 13: that as long as this inexperienced offensive line comes.
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: Together, well, look you have the.
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: Quarterback you have the, quarterbacks which is an the reason
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: Why i'm just looking at it and saying it doesn't
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: go as poorly as they're projecting when you have the.
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: Quarterbacks but we'll leave it at. That, uh let the
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: nay sayers be the nay. Sayers that's totally fine for.
- 1:27:16Speaker 13: Sure just one quick, note just a little summary on
- 1:27:18Speaker 13: what they said about B yu as. Well Interesting Stuart
- 1:27:22Speaker 13: mandel thinks that they're an eleven win, team WHICH i
- 1:27:25Speaker 13: don't think that that's, crazy especially because they don't have
- 1:27:29Speaker 13: a challenging schedule outside of The Notre dame game, really
- 1:27:33Speaker 13: and Then utah is always give me a tough. Game
- 1:27:35Speaker 13: but he's he has them winning eleven, games presumably losing
- 1:27:39Speaker 13: The Notre. Dame he didn't say which one he thinks
- 1:27:41Speaker 13: they're going to lose. To he Says klani has built
- 1:27:44Speaker 13: them into a, power so that that's his.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: Feeling they're ALSO. Lj, martin Bear.
- 1:27:49Speaker 13: Bachbeyer all the things that we know MAKES byu potentially
- 1:27:53Speaker 13: really good team this. Year feldman And russo think they're,
- 1:27:56Speaker 13: good not. Great feldman And russo see them whereas nine win,
- 1:28:00Speaker 13: team maybe a ten win team losing The Notre. Dame
- 1:28:04Speaker 13: and they've made sure to say The Notre dame game is,
- 1:28:08Speaker 13: enormous not just FOR, byu but for the whole perception
- 1:28:11Speaker 13: of The big twelve. Conference that might be a game
- 1:28:14Speaker 13: if There's utah fans that care about the perception of their,
- 1:28:17Speaker 13: conference that might be a game where you begrudgingly have
- 1:28:19Speaker 13: to root For. Yu, right no, chance but it's not
- 1:28:23Speaker 13: going to, happen but they but it would probably be
- 1:28:28Speaker 13: good For utah if they win that.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: Game there might be Some utah fans out there who
- 1:28:33Speaker 3: dislike the power, structure the powers that be the haves
- 1:28:39Speaker 3: as opposed to the have. Nots there might be ENOUGH
- 1:28:41Speaker 3: u tough fans out there that hate that more than
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: they even Hate. Yu because Like Notre. DAME i grew
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: up as A Notre dame, Fan, right So Notre. Dame
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: you Like they are the ultimate get a free pass,
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: team like more than Any big ten, team more than
- 1:28:58Speaker 3: ANY sec. Team Notre dame is the. Ultimate we are
- 1:29:02Speaker 3: treated in a biased manner to our advantage for whatever.
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: Reason they don't have to have a. Conference they have
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: automatic access to the college Football playoff because of who
- 1:29:13Speaker 3: they are and for no other. Reason so, YEAH i
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: mean there might be Some utah fans that are anti
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: establishment enough to hate.
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: That all.
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: RIGHT i have to deliver on this BECAUSE i said
- 1:29:27Speaker 3: when we got to The colorado game on The utah schedule.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: That there's just.
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: Something they're like a little league team in some. Ways
- 1:29:35Speaker 3: how many guys do you think The university Of utah
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: has on their football roster james that are listed at
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy pounds or less college, football, okay
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: like Actual DIVISION i. Football how many guys on This
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: utah football team are listed at one hundred and seventy
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: pounds or.
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: Less On utah? Football?
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: Yeah, man like, three maybe it's, one and he's listed
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: at one hundred and seventy, Pounds. Okay and there's a
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: reason Why i'm saying, this because it's just there's a
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: there's kind of a bare minimum in most cases to
- 1:30:16Speaker 3: like being strong, enough big, enough fast.
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: Enough colorado has well hold.
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: On all, RIGHT I utah's got one guy one hundred
- 1:30:28Speaker 3: and seventy pounds or. Less how many guys listed as
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy pounds or less do you THINK byu?
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: Has probably one or? None they have.
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: Two one is a wide receiver who's a. Freshman one
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: is a kicker who's a. Freshman, okay kickers kind of don't,
- 1:30:47Speaker 3: count all.
- 1:30:48Speaker 13: Right you'd expect a, specialist a punter kicker to be
- 1:30:51Speaker 13: one of the few on your.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: Roster, yeah how.
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: Many guys one hundred and seventy pounds or less do
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: you think The university Of colorado has listed on their?
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: Roster and, again oftentimes your weight is embellished five or
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: ten pounds to make you seem bigger than you actually
- 1:31:09Speaker 3: are on these official. Rosters, absolutely that's why AT nfl,
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: combines one of the reasons why they the league insists
- 1:31:17Speaker 3: on doing their own measurements because they're, like we can't
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: we can't trust this school's. Measurements, absolutely because you send
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: your guys to the combine and in the in the game,
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: program they're, like it says here that you were six
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: foot one and a. Half you're actually five nine and a. Half, yeah,
- 1:31:34Speaker 3: like dang.
- 1:31:35Speaker 13: It SO i would say it can't be as far
- 1:31:39Speaker 13: as the amount of guys On colorado your question there
- 1:31:43Speaker 13: under one hundred and seventy one hundred and seventy pounds or.
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: LESS i win seventy pounds or. Less, yeah it can't
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: be more than. Five can in it's. Thirteen that's Insane.
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: Colorado that's not.
- 1:31:54Speaker 13: SERIOUS. O, see that's not a serious football.
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: Team colorado has thirteen guys listed as one hundred and seventy.
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: Pounds.
- 1:32:00Speaker 3: Last, NOW i guess there's a slim possibility That Dion
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: sanders is doing this thing where he thinks he's playing
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: chess while everyone else is playing, checkers and he's listing
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: he's listing these. Guys, no he's recruiting for, speed and
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: there's a lot of small guys that run incredibly. Fast and,
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: look you don't have to be big to be a
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: great football.
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: Player we've one of.
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: Our favorite utes in recent, years in the last, decade
- 1:32:29Speaker 3: has been one of the smallest, guys, Right. Britain covey
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: is a massive outlier for many, reasons but the least
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: of which is. Not he overperforms his size. Continuously right,
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: now The Philadelphia eagles have a five foot eleven inch
- 1:32:45Speaker 3: offensive line prospect who is making a bunch of. Waves
- 1:32:50Speaker 3: he's wrecking people in camp right, now and he's a
- 1:32:52Speaker 3: big headline In. Philadelphia he might actually make a roster
- 1:32:56Speaker 3: as a five foot eleven inch offensive lineman in THE.
- 1:32:59Speaker 3: Nfl the last time that happened was probably like nineteen.
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: Sixty colorado has five guys listed at one hundred and
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: seventy pounds, even and they have eight guys listed at
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty five pounds or.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: Less they have a, guy they have.
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: A defensive back Named Cole mathis who's listed as five,
- 1:33:24Speaker 3: eight one hundred and forty, pounds and, he by the,
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: way is not a.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: Freshman he is a junior five eight.
- 1:33:37Speaker 3: At twenty something years. Old, Look Cole, MATHIS i hope
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: you're a great. ATHLETE i hope you're a great football.
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: PLAYER i hope you're.
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: Great you're not a division one like. You that's not a.
- 1:33:46Speaker 3: Thing there's no defensive backs that can feasibly get on
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: the field at one hundred and forty pounds in college football.
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: Today you most junior colleges will not even give you
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: a run if you're one hundred and forty. Pounds remember
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: When Dion, sanders when he first got That colorado, job
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: stood up in front of everyone and was, like go,
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: ahead pack your bags because What i'm bringing with me
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: Is Louis vuitton.
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: Luggage. Whatever what are we talking about?
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: Here you have thirteen guys that are undersized for the most, basic,
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: rudimentary lowest level of weight that you should be carrying
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: as a power for football. Players it's. Crazy that's WHY
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: i looked At. Utah that's WHY i looked AT. Byu
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: i'm gonna look At Texas. TECH i Bet Texas tech
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: has no guys that are fewer than that one hundred
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: and seventy pounds or.
- 1:34:38Speaker 13: Fewer, maybe you, know, see maybe it was us that
- 1:34:41Speaker 13: just misunderstood. Him we didn't know he was being, Literal
- 1:34:44Speaker 13: LIKE i am bringing literal the same weight as an
- 1:34:49Speaker 13: Empty Louis Vuitton bag's that's What i'm looking for in my.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: Team, WELL i should give. HIM i should Give deon some.
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: Credit though his largest player is three hundred and eighty,
- 1:35:01Speaker 3: pounds most most cats it's more like three. Forty, okay
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: you know WHAT i, Lied So Texas tech has one
- 1:35:09Speaker 3: guy who is one hundred and sixty five pounds on the.
- 1:35:13Speaker 13: Roster is there a rule that everyone should have? Won
- 1:35:18Speaker 13: is that what's going on? Here Because I'm i'm surprised
- 1:35:20Speaker 13: that the four Team we've mentioned four teams Of power
- 1:35:24Speaker 13: four programs and there's not one that has.
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: Zero i'm a little surprised at.
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: That who else is big in The big Twelve?
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: Conference who else is A, okay let's, see do we.
- 1:35:33Speaker 3: Think houston Isn't houston like one of the most obese
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: cities In? America, yeah, okay.
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: So does have big.
- 1:35:41Speaker 3: Guys houston's gotta have some big, guys ALTHOUGH i don't
- 1:35:43Speaker 3: think they weigh into the obesity.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Crisis college.
- 1:35:47Speaker 13: FOOTBALL i, mean they're not technically on the census college students,
- 1:35:52Speaker 13: aren't SO i guess they don't.
- 1:35:53Speaker 3: Count uh, huh, Okay, Okay houston has a wide receiver
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: is one hundred fifty five, pounds but he's a, freshman
- 1:36:04Speaker 3: and they also have one hundred and sixty pound wide.
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: Receiver kickers don't, count but they have a kicker who's
- 1:36:10Speaker 3: six y, one one sixty five that is a, skinny skinny.
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: Boy so there are.
- 1:36:15Speaker 3: Three players one hundred and seventy pounds are left unless
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: on The houston. Roster all, Right West, virginia, there they
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: gotta be big. Boys, right let's see what their minimum
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: size looks. Like by the, WAY i did not know
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: this was a direction we would be taking the show
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: here on The Daily. Dump but that's why you tune,
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: in because you never know if you're if you're out
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: there and you're listening and you're you, know five eight
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: and one hundred and sixty, pounds and you're mad at
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: me for saying that you shouldn't be a power for football.
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: Player just remember that if you're A utah fan and
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: you Saw Morgan scalley trotting thirteen guys out of the
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: tunnel that looked like sophomores At Olympus High, school you
- 1:37:04Speaker 3: would be pretty upset about. That that's what they're doing
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: At colorado right. Now West virginia has four guys on
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: the roster that a one hundred and seventy pounds or.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Less so That's.
- 1:37:14Speaker 13: Alorada nine less Than, colorado and That's West. Virginia that's
- 1:37:18Speaker 13: not exactly a power in The big twelve in.
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: Football right, NOW.
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: I am blown away That this is because especially when
- 1:37:26Speaker 3: you juxtapose it with that speech that big like raw ras.
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: Stand in front of your.
- 1:37:31Speaker 3: Team, hey if you're not, big bad and, awesome you
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: can go ahead and pack your bags and leave right.
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: Now because What i'm bringing to this program is something
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: you've never seen. Before, okay The Lollipop guild is what
- 1:37:43Speaker 3: you were. BRINGING i guess one Last Arizona, State we're
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: gonna do one last football roster here in The big Twelve.
- 1:37:54Speaker 3: Conference let's see how many tiny guys to go along
- 1:37:58Speaker 3: with The colorado comparison they've got At Arizona State. University
- 1:38:07Speaker 3: there's one person who's a junior wide receiver At Arizona
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: state who's listed at one hundred and seventy pounds or.
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: Less colorado you.
- 1:38:16Speaker 3: Win colorado, wins the, record wins the title for tiniest
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: football team In power for football certainly significantly. SMALLER i,
- 1:38:26Speaker 3: mean there's one hundred guys on a roster right. Now
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: so you're telling me thirteen percent of your roster is
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy pounds or. Less it's a bad
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: problem if you're The university Of. Colorado rownall remind everyone
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- 1:40:06Speaker 3: that is the phone number here At Soundsleep. Medical you
- 1:40:08Speaker 3: can go To soundsleepmedical dot com as well locations In, Clearfield,
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: Murray Sandy, probo And Saint george a free sleep screening
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: and free sleep consultation to whoever calls during the. Show
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- 1:40:43Speaker 3: with some more. Details we were talking after we signed
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: off last. TIME i have no idea how many people
- 1:40:49Speaker 3: are affected by sleep. Avenue it's one of those things
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: where it's, like, WELL i don't have to deal with,
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: it SO.
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: I know other people. Do but how many people are
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: affected by?
- 1:40:57Speaker 5: This so about eighty five Million americans have sleep.
- 1:41:01Speaker 7: Atna that's a lot of and about sixty eight million are.
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: Undiagnosed that can't be the real numb, seriously, yeah, Yeah
- 1:41:12Speaker 3: so three quarters of the people who have sleep.
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: Atnea are not getting not getting, treatment and just.
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: Suffering through the health consequences of the, exhaustion the negative
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: health outcomes of just persistent lack of.
- 1:41:26Speaker 7: Rest because you, know it's easy to just blame it
- 1:41:28Speaker 7: on other, things, Right, OH i didn't sleep very, MUCH
- 1:41:31Speaker 7: i didn't get that much sleep last, night or you,
- 1:41:33Speaker 7: know work was, stressful da da da. Da but there's
- 1:41:36Speaker 7: likely a reason why you feel the way that you
- 1:41:38Speaker 7: do during the.
- 1:41:38Speaker 5: Day.
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean so many people just blast their fatigue
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: with caffeine or whatever else and they're, Like, God i've
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: made it through another.
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: Day that's a.
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: Win you don't necessarily have to do it that way.
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: Anymore you can call places Like Sound Sleep. Medical you
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: can get a free sleep screening that happens in your,
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: home so you make it. Convenience there's really no reason
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: not to call even if you have a question about
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: this right.
- 1:42:00Speaker 7: Now, yeah, yeah you have nothing to lose by calling
- 1:42:04Speaker 7: us and scheduling that, appointment, because LIKE i, said you,
- 1:42:07Speaker 7: know even and if you sleep, alone you don't know
- 1:42:09Speaker 7: what you're doing when you're. Sleeping it's easy when you
- 1:42:11Speaker 7: have a partner that says you're snoring or you stop.
- 1:42:13Speaker 7: Breathing but the important thing, too is is the long
- 1:42:18Speaker 7: term health effects of leaving it. Untreated so many people
- 1:42:22Speaker 7: die in their sleep of sleep, apnea from, stroke heart
- 1:42:25Speaker 7: attack because when you stop breathing for a, minute two,
- 1:42:28Speaker 7: minute three minutes at, night multiple times a, night your oxygen,
- 1:42:32Speaker 7: drops your heart is overworking itself all night.
- 1:42:35Speaker 5: Long so it's hard on your.
- 1:42:36Speaker 7: Body so long term can cause you, know the high blood,
- 1:42:40Speaker 7: pressure the heart, disease the early onset of, dementia memory,
- 1:42:43Speaker 7: loss all those things.
- 1:42:46Speaker 3: You're talking about your oxygen being low because of like
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: we just spent a weekend in the hospital with my
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: daughter's kid to have an emergency, surgery, right, right and
- 1:42:54Speaker 3: they put that little finger monitor on And i'm freaking
- 1:42:57Speaker 3: out every time it drops even below, ninety, yeah because
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: the alarms start going and.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: She doesn't have sleep. Appa it just was post, surgery.
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: Right so if that's dangerous for someone like who's young and,
- 1:43:11Speaker 3: healthy imagine if you already have some of these other
- 1:43:13Speaker 3: health issues and then your oxygen is getting ready every
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: single night over and over and over.
- 1:43:18Speaker 7: Again, well and there's when your oxygen drops below ninety
- 1:43:22Speaker 7: there's cells it build up in your brain that can
- 1:43:25Speaker 7: cause that dementia that memory. Loss so if you're you,
- 1:43:28Speaker 7: know foggy brain during the, day that type of.
- 1:43:30Speaker 3: Thing they use an oral, appliance which is a lot
- 1:43:35Speaker 3: less intrusive than a. Seapap sea paps are great and
- 1:43:38Speaker 3: they've worked for people for a very long, time but
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: this is something it's an advancement in the technology and
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: an advancement in the treatment of this disorder that REALLY
- 1:43:47Speaker 3: i think makes it a lot easier for people to
- 1:43:49Speaker 3: seek the help that they.
- 1:43:50Speaker 7: Need for, sure it's a lot more cost effective, too
- 1:43:53Speaker 7: because with, seapaps you're replacing your, hoses your, masks often
- 1:43:57Speaker 7: the appliance you come. In it's custom fit to, you
- 1:44:00Speaker 7: so that's all you got to. Do you don't have
- 1:44:01Speaker 7: to get, water you don't have to have, Electricity so
- 1:44:04Speaker 7: it's a custom fit mouthguard almost like bleach trays or,
- 1:44:07Speaker 7: retainers and is all it does is positions your lower
- 1:44:11Speaker 7: jaw forward a little. Bit we also have a piece
- 1:44:14Speaker 7: that we give you that you use in the morning
- 1:44:15Speaker 7: that helps reset that job, back so it's called a morning. Repositioner,
- 1:44:19Speaker 7: yeah so it's not like we're permanently changing your. Bite
- 1:44:22Speaker 7: it's temporary and it's millimeters from your natural bite and
- 1:44:25Speaker 7: it just opens that, airway and, then LIKE i said,
- 1:44:27Speaker 7: earlier we, do you, know a couple of months down the,
- 1:44:29Speaker 7: road after we've kind of gotten to that adjustment level
- 1:44:32Speaker 7: that you're sleeping, better we're going to do a follow
- 1:44:34Speaker 7: up sleep test on you to confirm that your oxygen's
- 1:44:37Speaker 7: where it needs to, be those obstructions have gone, away
- 1:44:40Speaker 7: all of.
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: That so it's not just a one and, done thank
- 1:44:42Speaker 3: you for your.
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: MONEY i don't care about you.
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: Anymore it's, comprehensive continuing care to make sure that things
- 1:44:48Speaker 3: stay with the way they're supposed.
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: To, yep, yep it's exactly what you.
- 1:44:52Speaker 3: Need if you've been EXPERIENCING i don't, know maybe morning,
- 1:44:55Speaker 3: headaches maybe you're a little bit more. Depressed maybe there's
- 1:44:58Speaker 3: someone explained weight, gain high blood pressure that you just
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: found out about from the doctor could be related to
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: sleep apnea and you don't have to live with. It
- 1:45:07Speaker 3: go to sound Sleep medical dot com eight, zero, one, three, three,
- 1:45:10Speaker 3: five nine eight two four for the free sleep screening
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: and sleep. Consultation tell THEM oc sent You, Clearfield, Murray Sandy,
- 1:45:17Speaker 3: provo And Saint George.
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: Mandy you're the. Best thank, You thank.
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: You Jeff schwartz joins us to talk a LITTLE nfl training.
- 1:45:25Speaker 3: Camp next hour number three on The shawn O'Connell, SHOW
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- 1:45:51Speaker 2: And welcome back to The sean O'Connell.
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: Show our number three.
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: Here as football season, approaches THE nfl preseason has already.
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: Begun hall Of Fame game was this past.
- 1:46:14Speaker 3: Weekend our next guest is our betting expert college football
- 1:46:19Speaker 3: AND nfl, expert Former Oregon duck LONGTIME nfl veteran as.
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: Well Jeff schwartz joins us on the. Show, jeff how are?
- 1:46:26Speaker 6: You how's important that happened last? Week was WAS Bfl.
- 1:46:31Speaker 12: Charlotte that's, RIGHT Pfl.
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: Charlotte that's.
- 1:46:34Speaker 3: RIGHT pfl shot On friday, night Which jeff AND i
- 1:46:37Speaker 3: have been friends for a decade, now AND i think
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: that was like the the ninth time we've been in
- 1:46:42Speaker 3: the same room, together which is one of my favorite
- 1:46:46Speaker 3: things about how well we know each other and how
- 1:46:49Speaker 3: much we. Talk actually being in the same physical location
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: is such a weird.
- 1:46:53Speaker 6: Thing, yeah and twice the one, DAY i think. Twice
- 1:46:56Speaker 6: the one day part of the whole thing was like
- 1:46:59Speaker 6: WHEN i walked up you while in between fights to say,
- 1:47:02Speaker 6: hi and your producer was, like you Know, Sean i'm, like,
- 1:47:05Speaker 6: No i'm just plalling his name out for, fun like like,
- 1:47:09Speaker 6: No like he was, like not about to let me meet.
- 1:47:11Speaker 6: You he's not like a star crazed fan who's just
- 1:47:13Speaker 6: trying to meet THE TfL play by.
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: Playboys, yes, well there are a lot of people that
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: that are doing, that that are trying to jump the
- 1:47:21Speaker 3: barrier just to get a picture with.
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: Me SO i got. ELI i want to stopped.
- 1:47:25Speaker 3: You he would have he's one third year, size but
- 1:47:28Speaker 3: he would have stopped you.
- 1:47:28Speaker 6: Somehow but it was good seeing. You the fights will
- 1:47:32Speaker 6: GO i tell you, what, Man, Look i'm not AN nma,
- 1:47:34Speaker 6: person but THE pfl THAT i don't know if this
- 1:47:38Speaker 6: is with OTHER nma, EVENTS i don't, know like if
- 1:47:41Speaker 6: it's just like a but like there it goes non,
- 1:47:44Speaker 6: Stop like you get there and they. Fight the longest
- 1:47:48Speaker 6: breaks you ever have are only because a fight is shorter,
- 1:47:51Speaker 6: right like it was one fight that went like ninety,
- 1:47:53Speaker 6: SECONDS i, think, yeah and then like, that you, know
- 1:47:55Speaker 6: then like there's a little, bit you know about ten minute.
- 1:47:57Speaker 6: Break but if a fight goes all three, round the
- 1:47:59Speaker 6: next fight starts like ninety, seconds walkouts. Out, yeah, man
- 1:48:04Speaker 6: the whole.
- 1:48:05Speaker 3: Time, yeah it's, awesome it's. Fun everyone should get to
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: a live fight night whenever they have a. Chance hopefully
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: we'll have A pfl event here In Salt lake again.
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: Soon THE ufc just announced that they're coming back In.
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: October but don't don't buy tickets to that, people all,
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: right that's, uh that's the.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: Competition.
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: Uh while while we, were you, know doing the the
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: whole fight thing In, CHARLOTTE i was watching training camp
- 1:48:31Speaker 3: videos from all over the, place AND i want to
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: start here with you BECAUSE i started the show with. This,
- 1:48:35Speaker 3: Uh Spencer fano And Jared verse got into a little
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: scuffle At Cleveland browns, practice and for, ME i love
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: to see it, because, uh there's This there's always been
- 1:48:46Speaker 3: kind of a question About Spencer.
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: Fono he's a very smooth.
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: Player he's a great, athlete and there was if there
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: was anything that followed him. Around he's like but he does?
- 1:48:55Speaker 3: This is he nasty? Enough is he mean enough to
- 1:48:58Speaker 3: be an elite offensive? Lineman and that was something that
- 1:49:02Speaker 3: you could kind of get away from in college. Football
- 1:49:05Speaker 3: he certainly didn't have to be his meanest self in
- 1:49:08Speaker 3: high school football because he was so much more athletic
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: than a lot of. People AND i know that one
- 1:49:14Speaker 3: fight in training camp with a teammate doesn't answer that question,
- 1:49:18Speaker 3: Fully but how important is it for an offensive, lineman
- 1:49:21Speaker 3: especially a prospect on the offensive, line to kind of
- 1:49:24Speaker 3: be willing to and to show that part of his
- 1:49:27Speaker 3: game at THE nfl level where maybe that is the
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: one question you have about his.
- 1:49:31Speaker 6: Game, Okay so why do you talk about? This BECAUSE
- 1:49:35Speaker 6: I i don't think fighting makes. You it's a football
- 1:49:39Speaker 6: player in, general, Right and there's a momer reason for.
- 1:49:43Speaker 6: FIGHTS i think if you're fighting the first day in training,
- 1:49:45Speaker 6: camp you don't know how to. Practice The bengals fought first.
- 1:49:49Speaker 6: Year i'm, like this is like and right now you
- 1:49:51Speaker 6: have joint, Practice like there's five fights today In Tampa,
- 1:49:55Speaker 6: Bay New. York sweet right now from A NINERS b,
- 1:49:57Speaker 6: writer there's some four fights in Niners ian's practice so.
- 1:50:01Speaker 6: Far like that to me is, Lame like what what do?
- 1:50:04Speaker 6: We what do We you don't know how to practice, Right. Sean. Okay, however,
- 1:50:10Speaker 6: HOWEVER i do think there are important times when fighting is, okay,
- 1:50:16Speaker 6: Right LIKE i thought the defense for no, fighting you
- 1:50:19Speaker 6: don't you want to be able To you don't want
- 1:50:20Speaker 6: to be able to take it. Right you have to
- 1:50:21Speaker 6: be able to to not you, know to to push back,
- 1:50:25Speaker 6: right to not get. Punped and so there are certain
- 1:50:27Speaker 6: opportunities to make that. Happen if it leads to a,
- 1:50:29Speaker 6: fight it leads to a, fight, Right AND i think
- 1:50:31Speaker 6: those are important. Opportunities it doesn't make you a tough,
- 1:50:34Speaker 6: guy but it's not to show that you're willing to
- 1:50:37Speaker 6: give it, back. Right and that thing gave respect from the, veterans,
- 1:50:39Speaker 6: right and he gave respect by by by pushing back
- 1:50:43Speaker 6: a little. Bit SO i like that From spencer For.
- 1:50:46Speaker 6: No if didn't happen every, Day i'd probably be, like,
- 1:50:48Speaker 6: bro you're doing a little too, much you, know and
- 1:50:51Speaker 6: you know fight you leed injuries, too and like that's
- 1:50:53Speaker 6: part of why you don't want to fight, much you.
- 1:50:56Speaker 6: Know in that, CLIP i think he had his helmet, off, Correct,
- 1:50:59Speaker 6: no it was not, Okay, yeah, okay look like you
- 1:51:07Speaker 6: guys take their helmet, off that throw punches with their
- 1:51:10Speaker 6: fifth it's in the. Helmets it's it can be. Bad so,
- 1:51:13Speaker 6: OKAY i generally think fighting is what. OVERRATED i started
- 1:51:18Speaker 6: to fighting one time to get on my on my
- 1:51:20Speaker 6: coach's good, side and didn't work very. WELL i never
- 1:51:25Speaker 6: told you the, story DID i want you want to hear?
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: This, YES i want to hear.
- 1:51:28Speaker 10: This.
- 1:51:30Speaker 6: Okay so in twenty, eleven we had a new coaching.
- 1:51:33Speaker 6: Staff Robin rick came in an offensive line. Coach his
- 1:51:35Speaker 6: name Was John maxkow And john And my personality wise
- 1:51:38Speaker 6: cannot be too different. People but he actually was a
- 1:51:42Speaker 6: very good, coach but just, personality, man he was just
- 1:51:45Speaker 6: rough around the edges and he's old school. Coach he loved.
- 1:51:50Speaker 6: Fights he loved, it, dude like he wanted to fight every.
- 1:51:53Speaker 6: Day he was like all about. It and SO i
- 1:51:57Speaker 6: wasn't playing very well in training camp and come to find,
- 1:51:59Speaker 6: OUT i had a hit injury and that's WHY i
- 1:52:02Speaker 6: actually had two tip surgeries that. SEASON i missed miss twenty.
- 1:52:05Speaker 6: Eleven So i'm in training camp But i'm not playing.
- 1:52:08Speaker 6: Well So i'm, like you know, What i'm gonna start
- 1:52:10Speaker 6: a fight to hear the coach's good. Side all, Right
- 1:52:13Speaker 6: SO i started a. FIGHT I I I Dan connor
- 1:52:17Speaker 6: was our. LINEBACKER i shoved him. Late he shoved me
- 1:52:21Speaker 6: from behind and we started to. Fight and during the,
- 1:52:22Speaker 6: FIGHT i got tackled from. Behind he was just a
- 1:52:25Speaker 6: big like you, know you saw the No verse, Fight
- 1:52:28Speaker 6: like everyone's on the, ground, right like you're on the.
- 1:52:30Speaker 6: Ground AND i got hit in the face from someone
- 1:52:33Speaker 6: WHILE i.
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: Was laying on the.
- 1:52:34Speaker 6: GROUND i got LIKE i got like a little bloody
- 1:52:37Speaker 6: eye or. Something And merath is still upset about. It
- 1:52:39Speaker 6: she's still like so upset, that, like don't hit me
- 1:52:42Speaker 6: in the. Face she's still, like if you ask her
- 1:52:44Speaker 6: at to this, day she's, like screwed Dan, connor just
- 1:52:47Speaker 6: like she's so angry about, it which is so funny
- 1:52:49Speaker 6: because she just can't wait to punch him on any
- 1:52:51Speaker 6: opportunity available to. Her, so, so, okay if here's the
- 1:52:56Speaker 6: that's not the that's not the part that's like really.
- 1:52:58Speaker 6: Crazy so again the all right With John mats. Film
- 1:53:02Speaker 6: they all along meeting that day after. Practice and you know,
- 1:53:05Speaker 6: this some people might not know. This when they show practice,
- 1:53:09Speaker 6: film they don't show the, fights. Right they have an old,
- 1:53:12Speaker 6: film but they don't show. It, Okay so when you
- 1:53:14Speaker 6: watch a practice, play the play happens and then cuts
- 1:53:17Speaker 6: off and goes next.
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: Play.
- 1:53:18Speaker 6: Yep so all you see on the on the video
- 1:53:22Speaker 6: IS i Shoved Dan connor. LATE i turned my back
- 1:53:27Speaker 6: and he shoves me in the back and the practice clip. Ends.
- 1:53:30Speaker 6: Okay John mascow laid into me and ms me sean
- 1:53:37Speaker 6: for like five minutes about being soft and not Fighting Dan.
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: Connor, wait he did like he wasn't there at. Practice
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: he didn't actually know the fight.
- 1:53:45Speaker 6: Happened, Dude, no he. Did he late like he used
- 1:53:49Speaker 6: the five LETTER p word like he, dude he ms
- 1:53:55Speaker 6: me like this is all we do in The Caravan.
- 1:53:57Speaker 6: Panthers we fight guys if they want, to just like,
- 1:53:59Speaker 6: dude LIKE i. WAS i was so angry it was
- 1:54:02Speaker 6: almost in. Tears. Okay so after the meeting was, over he, goes, Hey,
- 1:54:08Speaker 6: schwartz just stay here for a. Second he did like
- 1:54:11Speaker 6: the like the elbow grab like the like like kind
- 1:54:13Speaker 6: of like drop my. Elbow was, like, hey just what you?
- 1:54:16Speaker 6: KNOW i knew you fought, him BUT i need to
- 1:54:18Speaker 6: fire up the.
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: Group, buddy he's Us he's using you as an example.
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: Trying he was just berating you to try to get
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: everyone else. EXCITED i GUESS i thought.
- 1:54:34Speaker 6: You fought, him BUT i wanted.
- 1:54:35Speaker 3: To like, DUDE i.
- 1:54:38Speaker 6: WAS i would have ever been angry in my life
- 1:54:40Speaker 6: like Dead sary. TOO i was so, angry so, angry
- 1:54:46Speaker 6: it was all But i've never been more upset in my.
- 1:54:48Speaker 6: LIFE i never find AND i never find anyone after.
- 1:54:51Speaker 8: That that is.
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: Terrible i'm sorry that happened to you fighting his, fighting his.
- 1:54:56Speaker 6: Tiring.
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: Dude, yes, yeah, so.
- 1:55:00Speaker 6: And come and find out my son doesn't work properly
- 1:55:02Speaker 6: WHEN i punch, someone so it's, like, YEAH i just.
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: Can't i'm can't beg a.
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: Fist ron, mcpride the legendary Of utah coach who ended
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: up being my coach At Weber state WHEN i transferred.
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: There he would do this thing where if if you,
- 1:55:15Speaker 3: fought you, know you have like one little altercation of, practice,
- 1:55:17Speaker 3: fine if it kept, going if you did it, again
- 1:55:20Speaker 3: he would just stop practice and let you, fight and
- 1:55:24Speaker 3: really invariably you just wear yourselves out. Right he'd just be, like, okay,
- 1:55:29Speaker 3: fine tough, guys go and then you just at both
- 1:55:33Speaker 3: parties involved in the, fight just get, exhausted and then.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: He's, like, okay feel. Good now let's.
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: Practice and now your whole practice has ruined because you
- 1:55:44Speaker 3: spent all your energy fighting and there's no energy management
- 1:55:47Speaker 3: like when you do your reps right when you're playing a,
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: sport you're like your body has muscle memory and you
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: know how to like, Okay i'm pushing for. This in,
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: football this five six seconds and THEN i get like
- 1:55:59Speaker 3: twenty seconds to recover. Whatever people don't know how to
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: manage their energy and. Fights football players, don't and so
- 1:56:05Speaker 3: it's just like all out war for however long your body,
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: goes and then you're done.
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: The rest of the.
- 1:56:11Speaker 3: Practice so that was how he managed, it which was.
- 1:56:13Speaker 3: Hilarious the only on the two times THAT i saw
- 1:56:16Speaker 3: it wasn't involved.
- 1:56:17Speaker 6: Myself it's so, interesting like like the coaches don't tell
- 1:56:25Speaker 6: you not to, fight not Not John, maxkill but like
- 1:56:27Speaker 6: most coach like we you, know we don't want you
- 1:56:29Speaker 6: to fight for many, reasons, right one is that it
- 1:56:31Speaker 6: just ruins, practice like it just takes away time from practice,
- 1:56:35Speaker 6: too you get. Tired but then they secretly sort of
- 1:56:37Speaker 6: do want you to fight to show some like a
- 1:56:39Speaker 6: little bit of. Fire It's it's kind of like one
- 1:56:41Speaker 6: of those things WHERE i remember in COLLEGE i started
- 1:56:43Speaker 6: to fight AND i don't know IF i started in
- 1:56:45Speaker 6: like the one COACH i gave me a, wink like
- 1:56:47Speaker 6: before he sent us to go run stadium, steps like
- 1:56:50Speaker 6: like it's, like it's good you do, it but it ruins.
- 1:56:53Speaker 6: Practice will don't do?
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: It please back to the.
- 1:56:56Speaker 6: Point, yeah he gave me a. Wink it was, like
- 1:56:59Speaker 6: and then we ran in Ren sais staying. Steps we
- 1:57:01Speaker 6: were off to that day in full. Pats so that was.
- 1:57:05Speaker 6: Fun but likes like Coach short wants you to, fight
- 1:57:08Speaker 6: but don't want you to. Fight so, look there's there's
- 1:57:13Speaker 6: coaches THE nfl That Andy reid and The chiefs has
- 1:57:16Speaker 6: never done a joint practice and will never do what
- 1:57:18Speaker 6: because he can't stand the idea of losing practice time to.
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: FIGHTS i, mean part of what makes him so. Great
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: so it's kind of. Cool by the, WAY i have
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: TO i have to say.
- 1:57:30Speaker 3: THIS i hate to be this, guy BUT i have
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: to do this Because Bingham, fano who is Is Spencer fano's.
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: Dad they were, yes they.
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: Talked about the fight on The pat McAfee, show and
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: and the dad went on social media and said It's
- 1:57:46Speaker 3: fano because they kept Saying, fano and he, said, guys
- 1:57:51Speaker 3: you say our Name.
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: Fano he gave The.
- 1:57:53Speaker 3: Pat McAfee show the phonetic, pronunciation the wag of the
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: finger at at The pat McAfee.
- 1:58:01Speaker 1: Show it's Not, fano It's. Fano so you have to
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: say it right from now.
- 1:58:04Speaker 6: On, Okay. Fano, WELL i always said it.
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: Right you Say, fano that's, Wrong fano is, Incorrect fano is. Correct.
- 1:58:19Speaker 6: FANO i didn't say it both ways over a couple of.
- 1:58:23Speaker 3: Years you probably, have all, Right Jeff schwartz is our
- 1:58:27Speaker 3: guest here on The sean O'Connell. Show as long as
- 1:58:30Speaker 3: we're on the fighting, thing The Kirk Cousins Matt crosby
- 1:58:33Speaker 3: fight suspended from?
- 1:58:34Speaker 1: Practice kind of a deal was?
- 1:58:36Speaker 10: That was?
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: That kooby actors being, like, YEAH i want to See Fernana.
- 1:58:40Speaker 1: Mendozo what was?
- 1:58:41Speaker 6: That that thing right where like a coach is probably
- 1:58:46Speaker 6: half today fought but like doesn't want it to ruin.
- 1:58:49Speaker 6: Practice my guess is that he'd already schedule an off
- 1:58:54Speaker 6: day for both those guys the next day and use
- 1:58:57Speaker 6: this as a way to like tell the, team, like
- 1:59:01Speaker 6: we're not doing fighting in. Practice that's my conspiracy take on.
- 1:59:06Speaker 6: It and the orders are off day for both those
- 1:59:08Speaker 6: guys and use this as an opportunity to reiterate you, know,
- 1:59:13Speaker 6: Hey i'm gonna guys if you, fight and, LOOK i
- 1:59:15Speaker 6: can even Do Max. CROSBY i could Betge Kirk. Cousins so,
- 1:59:19Speaker 6: YEAH i think that that was part of. It they
- 1:59:22Speaker 6: that would be a very harsh punishment for your two best,
- 1:59:25Speaker 6: players essentially to miss a day at practice for a.
- 1:59:28Speaker 3: FIGHT i, Mean i've heard a lot of hot takes on,
- 1:59:34Speaker 3: it like it was a bad thing because now the
- 1:59:36Speaker 3: other veterans are gonna be, like ALL i gotta do
- 1:59:38Speaker 3: is get in a fight to get a rest day at.
- 1:59:40Speaker 3: Practice And i've never been involved in that level of you,
- 1:59:44Speaker 3: know football and the politicking that happens for rest days
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: for the vets and things like. That SO i found
- 1:59:50Speaker 3: it interesting that they they send the message that, Way, okay.
- 1:59:56Speaker 6: That's my guests are off, day and they use this
- 1:59:59Speaker 6: opportunity to iterate no fights in practice.
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: Policy fair, enough all.
- 2:00:04Speaker 8: Right THE.
- 2:00:09Speaker 3: Espn Dot com put out a sort of cost list
- 2:00:15Speaker 3: for what each position costs in college football right, now
- 2:00:19Speaker 3: and there's obviously out there's obviously outliers. HERE i don't
- 2:00:22Speaker 3: know if you've taken taken a look at this in
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: depth or, anything but you, know it's like running backs
- 2:00:28Speaker 3: are three to eight hundred, thousand wide receivers are four
- 2:00:31Speaker 3: hundred thousand two, million tight ends are three to six hundred.
- 2:00:34Speaker 3: Thousand offensive. Tackles this is where it's interesting to me
- 2:00:39Speaker 3: because the range of the salary. Range, again this is typical.
- 2:00:44Speaker 3: Range so it's not the. Outliers it's not the the
- 2:00:47Speaker 3: best in the business type. Guys it's not What fano
- 2:00:49Speaker 3: And lomu were At utah last. Year but six hundred
- 2:00:53Speaker 3: thousand to one point two million dollars for offensive, tackles
- 2:00:56Speaker 3: four hundred thousand to eight hundred thousand for guards and.
- 2:01:00Speaker 3: Centers Uh, so the disparity between tackles and interior defensive
- 2:01:05Speaker 3: lineman might not be as big in in college football
- 2:01:09Speaker 3: as it is in THE. Nfl but your thoughts on those,
- 2:01:11Speaker 3: numbers because you got to fill out it's five. Guys
- 2:01:14Speaker 3: it's not like you pay your your quarterback one million
- 2:01:17Speaker 3: dollars and then you're done. There you've got to pay
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: a whole offensive.
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: Line so we have these new.
- 2:01:24Speaker 6: Eligibilitiyars are you five for five in college football now
- 2:01:27Speaker 6: right in college for if you you, know and there
- 2:01:29Speaker 6: are a lot of people come back for a fifth
- 2:01:31Speaker 6: year that they didn't get that fifth year at the
- 2:01:33Speaker 6: school that you were. PREVIOUSLY i never forgot my fifth.
- 2:01:37Speaker 6: Year SAW i want to play four. YEARS i, know
- 2:01:40Speaker 6: um argument have me back for five one thousand? DOLLARS
- 2:01:43Speaker 6: i do? It are? GRAND i MEAN i come. BACK
- 2:01:46Speaker 6: i come back to school for that. Much my Buddy
- 2:01:49Speaker 6: duke said it would take six months of, training stem
- 2:01:53Speaker 6: cell and.
- 2:01:53Speaker 1: Steroids so, yes.
- 2:01:57Speaker 6: Ye peptize. INSTEAD i know you love, peptide so it
- 2:02:00Speaker 6: would also, instead it.
- 2:02:02Speaker 3: Would also cancel YOUR nfl pension if you went back to.
- 2:02:06Speaker 1: School oh What, No.
- 2:02:08Speaker 6: I'm not doing. That i'm not doing that. Time BUT i, mean,
- 2:02:12Speaker 6: look it's it feels like a lot of, money, Right
- 2:02:17Speaker 6: AND i said this for a, while like it's like
- 2:02:19Speaker 6: it's sort of like not our money right to be
- 2:02:21Speaker 6: upset about. That i'm not spending money On organs. Team
- 2:02:25Speaker 6: you're not spending On utah's. Team but it does really
- 2:02:27Speaker 6: show to show you the disparity like it has it
- 2:02:30Speaker 6: have notts, right when you're paying top dollar for all these,
- 2:02:32Speaker 6: guys you got to be able to afford. It you
- 2:02:35Speaker 6: just have. To and it's such a big difference and
- 2:02:37Speaker 6: who can afford, it who can't afford? It and you
- 2:02:40Speaker 6: know who's who's can really afford Paying let's just use the.
- 2:02:44Speaker 6: Middle it's gonna afford paying one point five million a
- 2:02:47Speaker 6: year the three interior offensive. Linemen, now a lot of
- 2:02:51Speaker 6: school can do.
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: That, yeah there's like eight schools that can do that
- 2:02:55Speaker 1: over and over and over.
- 2:02:56Speaker 6: Again and it's not just a one year. Investment it's
- 2:03:01Speaker 6: every year, investment Right like there are plenty of schools
- 2:03:03Speaker 6: that get one or two year, investments but then to
- 2:03:06Speaker 6: get year three and year four because if you don't,
- 2:03:08Speaker 6: win Are buechers gonna want to pay year in a
- 2:03:12Speaker 6: year out for a football?
- 2:03:13Speaker 1: TEAM i think the answer to that's probably.
- 2:03:17Speaker 3: No but we'll find out because we're getting we're getting
- 2:03:22Speaker 3: i think now with in the nil, era because you
- 2:03:25Speaker 3: know this has been going on for what six seven
- 2:03:27Speaker 3: years now where you can legally do, this we're getting
- 2:03:31Speaker 3: to that return on investment conversation with people WHO i,
- 2:03:35Speaker 3: mean billionaires are probably not asking for a return on,
- 2:03:37Speaker 3: investment but the other like big money boosters might be
- 2:03:41Speaker 3: starting to take a look at the balance sheet and being,
- 2:03:44Speaker 3: like we're not really getting what we wanted out of.
- 2:03:47Speaker 3: This so usually like, three, five ten years is the
- 2:03:50Speaker 3: most that you're gonna to give to this kind of experimental,
- 2:03:53Speaker 3: investment if we want to call.
- 2:03:55Speaker 8: It that.
- 2:03:57Speaker 3: Last thing BEFORE i let you, go BECAUSE i know
- 2:03:59Speaker 3: you AND i both love to to laugh about the
- 2:04:02Speaker 3: way that things are being done At colorado right.
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: Now how many.
- 2:04:07Speaker 3: Guys At oregon did you play with that were listed
- 2:04:10Speaker 3: on the roster at one hundred and seventy pounds or
- 2:04:14Speaker 3: less in big time college?
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: Football?
- 2:04:18Speaker 10: Oh, Zero.
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: There's probably one or.
- 2:04:22Speaker 3: Two on the roster that were like one. Seventy right maybe.
- 2:04:25Speaker 6: At the moment you can look At i'm sure we
- 2:04:27Speaker 6: can look At i'm sure we can look it.
- 2:04:28Speaker 8: Up.
- 2:04:28Speaker 6: Yeah, YEAH i don't think it was only it was.
- 2:04:32Speaker 1: Many, okay what was?
- 2:04:34Speaker 3: Ten, WELL i was going to ask you how many
- 2:04:37Speaker 3: how many guys one seventy or less do you think
- 2:04:39Speaker 3: are on The colorado roster right?
- 2:04:40Speaker 6: NOW i think it's like, ten it's.
- 2:04:44Speaker 3: Thirteen they have two guys that are listed in the
- 2:04:48Speaker 3: they have two guys listed in the one.
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: Forties wait, no, yes, DUDE.
- 2:04:57Speaker 6: I just as other coach be like like pull up
- 2:05:00Speaker 6: on game, day we'll see who's the bigger, team just
- 2:05:04Speaker 6: like you. Know to, me there are teams and and
- 2:05:13Speaker 6: anthonies and sports that are really too, online Right. Sean
- 2:05:17Speaker 6: they're way too focused on the online discourse and the
- 2:05:21Speaker 6: w N. B a number one problem right now is
- 2:05:22Speaker 6: they're way too focused on what's being said about them
- 2:05:25Speaker 6: on the. Internet they just. Are it's it's wild to be,
- 2:05:28Speaker 6: like it's such a small fraction of your fan, base
- 2:05:31Speaker 6: of your, consumers you're, focused AND i Think colorado is
- 2:05:35Speaker 6: like way too focused on social, Media like who who
- 2:05:40Speaker 6: cares for? That you're? Small just be like we'll see
- 2:05:42Speaker 6: when we play week, one you, know or just ignore
- 2:05:45Speaker 6: it like Getting oregon Or Utah georgia would would there
- 2:05:50Speaker 6: oc be, like well see when you pull up to play. Us,
- 2:05:54Speaker 6: no just would be, like all, right well whatever you, think,
- 2:05:57Speaker 6: man we'll see. You you, know we'll see you this.
- 2:05:59Speaker 6: SEASON i Think colorado sometimes it's just weigh too.
- 2:06:03Speaker 3: Online do we give him more credit because they have
- 2:06:10Speaker 3: an equal number of players over three hundred, Pounds, well
- 2:06:13Speaker 3: they actually have twelve guys over three hundred pounds and
- 2:06:15Speaker 3: thirteen guys one hundred and seventy pounds or, Less so
- 2:06:18Speaker 3: does it balance out in the.
- 2:06:19Speaker 12: END i GUESS i know that.
- 2:06:24Speaker 3: The biggest guy on the biggest guy On colorado's roster
- 2:06:27Speaker 3: is three hundred and eighty pounds and the smallest guy's
- 2:06:29Speaker 3: one hundred and forty.
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: Pounds that's got to be the biggest swing in all
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: of college. Football, oh there's no, way it's not. Right,
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: no he's A.
- 2:06:40Speaker 3: dB, wow he's a junior defensive. Back that's the thing that's.
- 2:06:46Speaker 3: Crazy he's not a. Freshman that's. Small, dude five eight is,
- 2:06:53Speaker 3: tiny and then five Nine Ernest campbell five, nine one forty,
- 2:06:58Speaker 3: five also a junior.
- 2:07:01Speaker 6: Like Norman schwartz is going to be there in two.
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: Years, Dude Jeff schwartz was there when he was six years. Old.
- 2:07:09Speaker 6: Probably, yeah that's that's. Shocking. Wow, YEAH i didn't realized
- 2:07:15Speaker 6: that they were. Little it just feels. Propesionally they're just
- 2:07:20Speaker 6: too online for, Me. Colorado they're too worried about social,
- 2:07:23Speaker 6: media about social media says and thinks about, them and
- 2:07:27Speaker 6: that's just about like how they actually are playing and you,
- 2:07:30Speaker 6: know desherving their.
- 2:07:31Speaker 3: Team all, Right well we're, overtime SO i gotta let you.
- 2:07:35Speaker 3: Go but thanks for jumping on again. Today we'll be
- 2:07:38Speaker 3: checking in With jeff throughout the college AND nfl football
- 2:07:40Speaker 3: seasons because he's a good friend like that and he's
- 2:07:43Speaker 3: willing to join me on the.
- 2:07:44Speaker 1: Show Thanks.
- 2:07:45Speaker 6: Bud All, right, buddy take care of who we.
- 2:07:47Speaker 3: Can Former Oregon Duck Carolina, Panther New York Giant Kansas
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- 2:10:26Speaker 3: it's a wild thing to be, Like, yeah a quarterback
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- 2:14:30Speaker 3: This at the very beginning of the, Show Zaraway, williams
- 2:14:34Speaker 3: who is the projected starting left tackle at The university Of.
- 2:14:37Speaker 3: Utah we don't have any definitive answers just yet on
- 2:14:40Speaker 3: exactly who all those starters are going to be on
- 2:14:42Speaker 3: The utah offensive, line But Zarawai williams is just an absolute.
- 2:14:45Speaker 3: Treat we have like five minutes from him at camp
- 2:14:49Speaker 3: that you're gonna want to. Hear we'll give that to you,
- 2:14:51Speaker 3: next and if we have, time maybe we'll give you
- 2:14:53Speaker 3: a little bit, more maybe something From morgan or From Bird.
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- 2:15:43Speaker 3: Utes Zaraway, williams we gave you some sound from him
- 2:15:47Speaker 3: back in the. SPRING i think that's the last time
- 2:15:50Speaker 3: that at LEAST i was able to have a conversation with.
- 2:15:52Speaker 3: Him you can always find these interviews at THE espn
- 2:15:55Speaker 3: seven hundred app AND espn seven hundred sports Dot.
- 2:15:59Speaker 1: Com BUT i wanted to play this for.
- 2:16:01Speaker 3: You Zarawai williams projected STARTING i believe left. Tackle we'll
- 2:16:05Speaker 3: see What jordan Gross and And kevin mcgiman decided to
- 2:16:09Speaker 3: do with this offensive line. Rotation But Zaraway williams is
- 2:16:13Speaker 3: kind of like the shoe IN i think he is
- 2:16:15Speaker 3: the most reasonable assumption for the starting offensive tackle on
- 2:16:20Speaker 3: the left. Side Here's Zaw williams from from.
- 2:16:24Speaker 10: Practice practice was actually A i want to say it
- 2:16:28Speaker 10: was really good from from the old black. Perspective we
- 2:16:32Speaker 10: already knew kind of coming in here today with the
- 2:16:35Speaker 10: full pads and, everything that was gonna be a little
- 2:16:37Speaker 10: bit more more of a, challenge, Right so WE i,
- 2:16:42Speaker 10: mean we stepped, up but there's still more we can.
- 2:16:45Speaker 10: Do and that's how we that's kind of our mindset
- 2:16:47Speaker 10: for like every single day of, practice so we're just
- 2:16:49Speaker 10: climbing and climbing the.
- 2:16:49Speaker 1: Stairs so, yeah.
- 2:16:51Speaker 12: There's gonna be a lot of doubts on the offensive
- 2:16:53Speaker 12: line until you guys can show.
- 2:16:54Speaker 5: It how do you feel like you guys are making
- 2:16:55Speaker 5: that progress.
- 2:16:56Speaker 10: Too it's a lot of working in the, dark And
- 2:16:59Speaker 10: i'm really happy that it is that way because that's
- 2:17:00Speaker 10: personally HOW i like, to, uh HOW i like to.
- 2:17:02Speaker 10: Work and oh, MAN i don't know how we can
- 2:17:06Speaker 10: like show it before a game, day but just in,
- 2:17:08Speaker 10: practice we're just trying our best to just you, know
- 2:17:10Speaker 10: do what we can do and then build. Chemistry AND
- 2:17:12Speaker 10: i think that's really coming along really.
- 2:17:14Speaker 14: WELL i was about to, say you say you feel
- 2:17:16Speaker 14: like it's coming along well as the. Unit do you
- 2:17:19Speaker 14: feel like that's the vibe within, there you guys feel, like,
- 2:17:21Speaker 14: hey we're about to do something specially, yes, yeah.
- 2:17:23Speaker 10: So oh, MAN i don't know IF i can uh, yeah, Okay.
- 2:17:27Speaker 10: Okay we we're kind of building a little bit of
- 2:17:29Speaker 10: a culture thing in the old line. Room it's, like,
- 2:17:32Speaker 10: uh who can be who can just be like nast
- 2:17:35Speaker 10: you can just chase the, ball just stay with the
- 2:17:37Speaker 10: man and you, know just be as like be as
- 2:17:39Speaker 10: uh be as physical and just oh. Man we're trying
- 2:17:41Speaker 10: to find the word BECAUSE i don't want to like
- 2:17:43Speaker 10: give you got spoilers BECAUSE i don't know we're, like
- 2:17:45Speaker 10: uh doing anything like crazy with. It but uh, yeah
- 2:17:48Speaker 10: we're just we're just trying to push what we can
- 2:17:51Speaker 10: do and just show our culture like every day on the,
- 2:17:54Speaker 10: field LIKE i know that's what coach has been saying
- 2:17:56Speaker 10: like all the, time but like personally in our old block,
- 2:17:59Speaker 10: room we're just trying to really just show, like oh,
- 2:18:01Speaker 10: man we're getting after it. Today, yeah.
- 2:18:05Speaker 3: The pads on and really be able to key off on.
- 2:18:06Speaker 10: Someone oh it was, good it was. Good, OKAY i
- 2:18:09Speaker 10: have one Play Elijah. REID i came out on. HIM
- 2:18:11Speaker 10: i was on the second.
- 2:18:12Speaker 1: LEVEL i was, like, Oh i'm gona get, him gonna get.
- 2:18:14Speaker 10: Him when he got out in my path and he got,
- 2:18:15Speaker 10: me he, said, ooh that's not gonna happen for the
- 2:18:16Speaker 10: rest of. Practice so uh, yeah it was just good
- 2:18:19Speaker 10: to come out and then just be, Like, okay that
- 2:18:21Speaker 10: was it's going. Today SO i gotta take that and know.
- 2:18:25Speaker 10: That can't let it be the first, thing like be
- 2:18:28Speaker 10: the nail coming out the first. Thing gotta be the
- 2:18:30Speaker 10: hammer coming out the first. Thing so, yeah Albind.
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: Meyer visited and just spoke to the. Team what was
- 2:18:34Speaker 1: that experience like and what did he say to This
- 2:18:36Speaker 1: it was. AWESOME i loved. It he got to think
- 2:18:39Speaker 1: back because he had some really good. Wisdom.
- 2:18:41Speaker 15: Now he, said the heart is, now the heart is,
- 2:18:46Speaker 15: Now so we want to do the hard drills and
- 2:18:49Speaker 15: do the hard practices now so that when game day
- 2:18:53Speaker 15: comes it's just natural.
- 2:18:54Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah you're.
- 2:18:55Speaker 3: Noticeably, figured like you put on a lot of good.
- 2:18:57Speaker 10: Size like how do you feel like that's translated the.
- 2:19:00Speaker 1: FIELD i think it's going really. Well so in the
- 2:19:03Speaker 1: in the weight room and just with nutrition and.
- 2:19:05Speaker 10: EVERYTHING i THINK i gained like maybe fifteen fifteen pounds and,
- 2:19:11Speaker 10: Yeah I'M i feel LIKE i.
- 2:19:13Speaker 1: Can keep pushing and keep. MOVING i still feel pretty.
- 2:19:15Speaker 1: Athletic so it's going.
- 2:19:17Speaker 3: Good, yeah help you take your game to the next.
- 2:19:20Speaker 1: Level oh, man it's, like.
- 2:19:21Speaker 10: Okay so the biggest thing THAT i really appreciate With
- 2:19:25Speaker 10: Coach gross is that there will be a, mistake but
- 2:19:29Speaker 10: it's a learning. Opportunity it's not, like, Man i'm getting
- 2:19:33Speaker 10: honest butt and kind of like go buck while bananas on. Him,
- 2:19:35Speaker 10: Right so it's, like, uh, okay, zee just get the
- 2:19:40Speaker 10: last play out of your, mind know what you did,
- 2:19:41Speaker 10: wrong and then continue from, there get better from.
- 2:19:44Speaker 14: There what thinking is a unique situation coming back this
- 2:19:48Speaker 14: year when he could have started. ELSEWHERE i, guess just
- 2:19:50Speaker 14: what's it like having him back and what does he
- 2:19:51Speaker 14: bring to this?
- 2:19:52Speaker 1: Off oh my, GOSH i appreciate it so. Much it's it's.
- 2:19:55Speaker 1: Versatility That's that's WHAT i can say about. It and
- 2:19:58Speaker 1: we can do so many different things with him in,
- 2:20:00Speaker 1: there him And.
- 2:20:01Speaker 10: Dell, OH i.
- 2:20:02Speaker 1: Don't know IF i can say.
- 2:20:03Speaker 3: That uh uh oh.
- 2:20:05Speaker 10: Man we do a lot Of we do a lot
- 2:20:06Speaker 10: of cool, things a lot of a lot of a
- 2:20:08Speaker 10: lot of fancy stuff out, there so, yeah, Yeah.
- 2:20:13Speaker 1: I'm.
- 2:20:14Speaker 3: Sorry what was the reaction when you had the act
- 2:20:16Speaker 3: when you found that you had an extra?
- 2:20:17Speaker 1: Year it was it was a.
- 2:20:18Speaker 10: BLESSING i was so relieved AND i was, like oh,
- 2:20:20Speaker 10: MAN i MEAN i was Behind spencer And caleb AND
- 2:20:23Speaker 10: i WAS i was just learning from, them and it
- 2:20:25Speaker 10: was that was a blessing as. Well but once they said, that,
- 2:20:28Speaker 10: like oh is he you can get another, YEAR i was, Like,
- 2:20:29Speaker 10: okay NOW i can take WHAT i learned from them
- 2:20:32Speaker 10: and then try to translate it and myself bringing along
- 2:20:34Speaker 10: on my journey and then you, know try to see
- 2:20:36Speaker 10: WHAT i can do from.
- 2:20:37Speaker 3: There That's Zaraway, williams your projected starter at left. Tackle
- 2:20:43Speaker 3: AND i, MEAN i think even without the, video the
- 2:20:46Speaker 3: video is great too because he's very animated with his
- 2:20:48Speaker 3: facial expressions and. Stuff but, uh that's a guy with
- 2:20:51Speaker 3: the future and some kind of motivational speaking with that
- 2:20:55Speaker 3: level of, enthusiasm AND i, think maybe more, importantly this
- 2:20:59Speaker 3: is a guy who he played in every one Of
- 2:21:02Speaker 3: utah's games last.
- 2:21:03Speaker 1: Year, okay, now mostly well not. Mostly all is a reserve.
- 2:21:09Speaker 3: In playing on special, teams which for offensive lineman is
- 2:21:14Speaker 3: and for someone who's a six foot eight inch three
- 2:21:16Speaker 3: hundred and five pound offensive. Lineman it's you being on
- 2:21:19Speaker 3: like the pat field goal, team and occasionally those guys
- 2:21:24Speaker 3: will be used on punt team as, well but not
- 2:21:27Speaker 3: that often because you got to running coverage on, punt.
- 2:21:29Speaker 3: Right so this is this guy who has he's actually
- 2:21:33Speaker 3: played in twenty twenty, five he was in every single.
- 2:21:36Speaker 1: Game in twenty twenty, four he.
- 2:21:38Speaker 3: Played as a backup in eight different games before he
- 2:21:43Speaker 3: hurt himself Against. Houston in twenty twenty, two he played fourteen,
- 2:21:47Speaker 3: games and in even all the way back in twenty twenty,
- 2:21:51Speaker 3: one he played special teams Against Weaver state And. Stanford
- 2:21:55Speaker 3: so this is a guy who's been on the field
- 2:21:57Speaker 3: a lot for The university Of. Utah it's a totally
- 2:22:00Speaker 3: different animal now that he's expected to be a starter
- 2:22:02Speaker 3: and a leader on this offensive. Line but you heard
- 2:22:06Speaker 3: the appreciation he was expressing for the, playbook for What
- 2:22:10Speaker 3: Jordan gross has done to help him, improve to help
- 2:22:13Speaker 3: him move.
- 2:22:13Speaker 1: From play to.
- 2:22:14Speaker 3: Play and we're gonna ef Forgetting Steve saunders on the
- 2:22:18Speaker 3: on the. Program he's a guy that came in as
- 2:22:22Speaker 3: the new strength and conditioning. Coach that's another offensive lineman
- 2:22:25Speaker 3: who said that he gained fifteen pounds.
- 2:22:30Speaker 1: Of good.
- 2:22:30Speaker 3: Weight Zaraway williams is listed at three hundred and five.
- 2:22:34Speaker 3: Pounds if he gained fifteen, pounds we're talking about a
- 2:22:37Speaker 3: guy who's three fifteen three twenty at six foot. Eight
- 2:22:41Speaker 3: THAT'S i, mean that's a that's a big problem for
- 2:22:45Speaker 3: opposition trying to move, him especially on a bul.
- 2:22:47Speaker 1: Rush so that's that's good to hear For Zaraway. Williams
- 2:22:52Speaker 1: and also you Mentioned Steve.
- 2:22:54Speaker 13: Saunders we were talking about all the teams that In
- 2:22:58Speaker 13: colorado in, particular that had a lot of players one
- 2:23:01Speaker 13: hundred and seventy pounds or, smaller and how most of
- 2:23:05Speaker 13: the other teams in The big twelve a lot less than.
- 2:23:07Speaker 13: That right when you asked me how many Does utah?
- 2:23:10Speaker 13: Have the reason WHY i was, like it's got to
- 2:23:12Speaker 13: be two or less is because of the returns we've
- 2:23:15Speaker 13: heard from players and the reporters on the. Beat Sammy
- 2:23:19Speaker 13: mora in particular was one that told us, like they
- 2:23:22Speaker 13: keep talking about how much they love the new strength
- 2:23:26Speaker 13: and conditioning, program how much they benefited from. It the
- 2:23:30Speaker 13: players keep talking about. That that's one of the reasons
- 2:23:33Speaker 13: Why i'm, like, well it can't be that many with
- 2:23:35Speaker 13: how much they've been talking, about how much stronger they've.
- 2:23:37Speaker 3: Gotten, james how many players over three hundred pounds do
- 2:23:42Speaker 3: you think there are on This utah football Rofster utah
- 2:23:46Speaker 3: not three hundred, over but over three hundred over three, Hundred,
- 2:23:49Speaker 3: OKAY i would say. Seven you're ten. Short there are
- 2:23:57Speaker 3: seven eight. Players roger Alder in is three to oh
- 2:24:00Speaker 3: two and it goes up from. There and if we
- 2:24:02Speaker 3: if we do the three hundred, Pounders Mike, tuteoli the
- 2:24:06Speaker 3: junior defensive, tackle shout out to The tuteoly. Family Cedric,
- 2:24:10Speaker 3: jefferson the incoming transfer From Montana, state they're both listed
- 2:24:14Speaker 3: at three hundred, even so that is nineteen players three
- 2:24:17Speaker 3: hundred pounds or above on This utah, roster any of
- 2:24:21Speaker 3: them close to The colorado Player he said it was
- 2:24:25Speaker 3: three eighty, something three Eighty. No utah's biggest is freshman From,
- 2:24:30Speaker 3: lehigh the Mat Ali benjamin.
- 2:24:33Speaker 1: Kid he is six, seven three forty on the.
- 2:24:36Speaker 13: Roster mean that's not small, Though like that's a good
- 2:24:39Speaker 13: that's good for? What like that's good to be your biggest.
- 2:24:43Speaker 13: Player three forty or MORE i would think would be
- 2:24:47Speaker 13: right up there with a lot of programs in the
- 2:24:48Speaker 13: power for, yeah like three forty IS i think that
- 2:24:51Speaker 13: where you get kind of diminishing returns for most, guys
- 2:24:55Speaker 13: where you, know you don't need to be bigger than
- 2:24:58Speaker 13: three hundred and forty pounds three hundred forty pou as
- 2:25:00Speaker 13: a monstrous. Individual if you can move that three hundred
- 2:25:03Speaker 13: and forty pounds, successfully that's as big as you're ever
- 2:25:06Speaker 13: gonna need to. Be even in like professional, football you
- 2:25:09Speaker 13: don't need to be bigger than. That there are very
- 2:25:11Speaker 13: rare individuals who can carry three eighty and still be.
- 2:25:14Speaker 13: Athletic there are very rare individuals who can carry three
- 2:25:18Speaker 13: sixty and still be.
- 2:25:19Speaker 1: Athletic who was the?
- 2:25:20Speaker 3: Uh there was The florida defensive tackle that was. Gigantic
- 2:25:24Speaker 3: what was his, Name jordan's. Something that guy he ended
- 2:25:28Speaker 3: up getting a cup of coffee in the in THE.
- 2:25:31Speaker 3: NFL i think he's out of THE nfl, now but
- 2:25:34Speaker 3: he was like he played Against utah and he wore
- 2:25:39Speaker 3: like number two or. Something Desmond watson was his, name six,
- 2:25:43Speaker 3: six four hundred and sixty four. Pounds oh my, gosh
- 2:25:47Speaker 3: and their smallest guy that year was like one hundred
- 2:25:50Speaker 3: and seventy. Pounds so he was like three times as
- 2:25:52Speaker 3: big as his smallest. Teammate but that's a big.
- 2:25:56Speaker 1: Boy.
- 2:25:57Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean, look and four and six sixty four
- 2:26:00Speaker 3: pounds is too, big right a guy who's six to,
- 2:26:04Speaker 3: six even if he's naturally as big bonded as you
- 2:26:07Speaker 3: can ever, be you don't need.
- 2:26:10Speaker 1: To carry four sixty.
- 2:26:11Speaker 3: Four if he's sixty six and three hundred and sixty four,
- 2:26:14Speaker 3: pounds his career might still be. Happening, yeah there's just
- 2:26:18Speaker 3: there's diminishing returns when you get to a certain. Size and,
- 2:26:21Speaker 3: he honestly he played as well as anyone that size
- 2:26:24Speaker 3: could be expected to. Play he also somehow ran a
- 2:26:28Speaker 3: sub six second forty yard dash at four hundred and
- 2:26:31Speaker 3: sixty four, pounds which is maybe one of the most
- 2:26:33Speaker 3: impressive things that you can imagine five ninety three with
- 2:26:38Speaker 3: a forty yard dash when he weighs twice.
- 2:26:40Speaker 1: What most people. WEIGH i, Mean i'm not even in
- 2:26:44Speaker 1: shape right, now and this guy is two times my.
- 2:26:47Speaker 1: Weight that is.
- 2:26:49Speaker 3: Terrifying, Anyway utah's biggest player three hundred and forty, pounds
- 2:26:55Speaker 3: and he's a. Freshman in, Fact utah's two biggest players
- 2:26:58Speaker 3: from a weight standpoint are, freshmen so maybe this is
- 2:27:02Speaker 3: a place Where Morgan scalley will keep recruiting bigger and bigger.
- 2:27:06Speaker 3: GUYS i don't think, so. THOUGH i think they're going
- 2:27:08Speaker 3: to keep most people in that you, know three hundred
- 2:27:12Speaker 3: to three twenty range is probably where they want their
- 2:27:15Speaker 3: tackles and defensive. Tackles, again something we will Ask Steve
- 2:27:20Speaker 3: saunders when we get him on the. Program don't know
- 2:27:23Speaker 3: exactly when that's going to, happen but it is going
- 2:27:24Speaker 3: to happen as long as we're for whatever reason today
- 2:27:28Speaker 3: staying fixated on player. Size we got a great text
- 2:27:31Speaker 3: message from one seven sixty five on the text, LINE
- 2:27:35Speaker 3: i played two years of college football In. Minnesota two
- 2:27:38Speaker 3: of us were five eight one forty five five eight
- 2:27:40Speaker 3: one point.
- 2:27:40Speaker 1: Fifty the size is not the. Issue the issue is
- 2:27:43Speaker 1: as a, team.
- 2:27:44Speaker 3: We only had one pair of pants to fit, us
- 2:27:47Speaker 3: so we had to rock paper scissors before every game
- 2:27:50Speaker 3: to get that pair of.
- 2:27:51Speaker 1: Pants that that can't be.
- 2:27:54Speaker 3: REAL i would like to follow, up tell me what
- 2:27:58Speaker 3: school In minnesota you played at and what year was?
- 2:28:01Speaker 3: This one seven sixty five eight seven seven three five
- 2:28:04Speaker 3: three zero seven Hundred if you also were a one
- 2:28:07Speaker 3: hundred and forty five pound college football player story reminds
- 2:28:12Speaker 3: me of you a little bit o c, telling like
- 2:28:15Speaker 3: your number as a walk on depended on you, know
- 2:28:19Speaker 3: what jersey was available in some of the.
- 2:28:21Speaker 1: Games, yes one D. P it was, like WHAT.
- 2:28:25Speaker 3: I, mean look to be, FAIR i don't want to
- 2:28:27Speaker 3: feel Like i'm picking on the small guys because one
- 2:28:29Speaker 3: of the best PLAYERS i ever played with in college
- 2:28:33Speaker 3: was At Weaver state and he was one hundred and
- 2:28:34Speaker 3: sixty pound.
- 2:28:35Speaker 1: Guy but he was At Weaver, state you know WHAT i.
- 2:28:37Speaker 3: Mean shout out To Bryan, edawattie who was the best
- 2:28:40Speaker 3: punt returner in The Big Sky conference and just an
- 2:28:43Speaker 3: all around. Stud he's just a small. Guy that's why
- 2:28:46Speaker 3: he was At Weaver. State we're talking about power for
- 2:28:49Speaker 3: conference football players, Here Weaver state And Southern utah and
- 2:28:53Speaker 3: Even Utah state to some, extent they're going to be
- 2:28:55Speaker 3: more populated with these guys who were outliers on the
- 2:28:58Speaker 3: bell curve of size in college.
- 2:28:59Speaker 1: Football but, man don't be one, forty don't be three
- 2:29:03Speaker 1: forty or don't be four forty. Either all, right one
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- 2:30:03Speaker 3: Four the Reason i'm telling you all this is because
- 2:30:06Speaker 3: you don't have an excuse not to at least get
- 2:30:10Speaker 3: your sleep apnea checked, out even if you're just, WONDERING
- 2:30:13Speaker 3: i wake up a little, GROGGY i have some, Headaches
- 2:30:16Speaker 3: i'm gaining weight on. Inexplicably why not come in and
- 2:30:19Speaker 3: have it checked? Out eight to one three, three five
- 2:30:21Speaker 3: ninety two, Four, mandy how often do people just come
- 2:30:24Speaker 3: to you and you get them oral applianes fitted and
- 2:30:27Speaker 3: you get the apney it, fixed and they're just.
- 2:30:29Speaker 1: LIKE i should have done this ten.
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- 2:30:41Speaker 7: patient a couple of weeks ago that came in for
- 2:30:43Speaker 7: his two week follow up and he, Said, Mandy i've
- 2:30:45Speaker 7: lost five pounds SINCE i started wearing this because he feels,
- 2:30:48Speaker 7: better he's getting more, exercise because he's got the energy
- 2:30:51Speaker 7: to he's getting better.
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- 2:31:11Speaker 7: Past and that's something to bring up because a lot of,
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- 2:31:16Speaker 5: And that type of. Thing they're booked out months months.
- 2:31:19Speaker 7: Months you, know when we have people that come in
- 2:31:21Speaker 7: and look at their results or get the results from
- 2:31:23Speaker 7: their sleep, tests they want to treat right. Now you,
- 2:31:25Speaker 7: know it's scary what some people are going through getting terrible.
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- 2:31:37Speaker 3: Weeks and, again it's an oral appliance that looks like
- 2:31:40Speaker 3: a couple of, mouthpieces a couple of like sports, mouthguards
- 2:31:44Speaker 3: and it just pulls the jaw forward a little, bit
- 2:31:46Speaker 3: opens the. Airway it's not as big of a deal
- 2:31:49Speaker 3: as having one of those seapap. Machines like you, said
- 2:31:51Speaker 3: no hose, replacements there's no moving, parts, Right it's just
- 2:31:55Speaker 3: one of those things that you can pop that bad
- 2:31:57Speaker 3: boy into your, mouth get used to sleeping with it and,
- 2:31:59Speaker 3: yeah you're breathing right through the whole.
- 2:32:01Speaker 7: Night, yeah and it's in. It LIKE i said, earlier
- 2:32:03Speaker 7: it's custom to. You, SO i mean there's devices you
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- 2:32:09Speaker 7: not doing. That it's going to jack up your. Teeth
- 2:32:11Speaker 7: it's going to jack up your. Jaw you want to
- 2:32:13Speaker 7: make sure that you're doing a custom adjustable, device which
- 2:32:15Speaker 7: is what we. Offer plus we have that morning reposition
- 2:32:18Speaker 7: or that you're going to use in the morning to
- 2:32:20Speaker 7: help destress that jaw and move that bite.
- 2:32:22Speaker 3: Back i've been saving this, till saving the best for last,
- 2:32:25Speaker 3: year because we talked about this. Earlier if you're not
- 2:32:28Speaker 3: dreaming at, all, yes it might mean that you have
- 2:32:32Speaker 3: a bit of an issue with this because dreams happen during,
- 2:32:36Speaker 3: better deeper.
- 2:32:36Speaker 5: Sleep, yep the dreams happened during rem and deep.
- 2:32:39Speaker 7: Sleep so if you don't dream at, night that's one
- 2:32:41Speaker 7: thing that a lot of patients notice when they start
- 2:32:43Speaker 7: to use their.
- 2:32:43Speaker 5: Devices they're, like, YEAH i am dreaming a. LOT i
- 2:32:46Speaker 5: haven't done that.
- 2:32:47Speaker 1: Before and some of the coolest stuff happens during, dreams
- 2:32:50Speaker 1: oh for.
- 2:32:51Speaker 5: Sure some some not so cool stuff, Too but so
- 2:32:53Speaker 5: we won't focus on.
- 2:32:54Speaker 3: That we're staying, positive all, Right i'm trying to help you,
- 2:32:58Speaker 3: out all, right you're working against.
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- 2:33:19Speaker 1: A couple more nightmares and throw in there with. It
- 2:33:21Speaker 1: but we're gonna hope that that's not the get.
- 2:33:23Speaker 6: Right.
- 2:33:24Speaker 3: Right if you get your sleep, fixed the sleep at
- 2:33:26Speaker 3: me a fixed and then you're sleeping deep and you're
- 2:33:28Speaker 3: having a bunch of, nightmares that then you got to
- 2:33:30Speaker 3: go get some mental.
- 2:33:31Speaker 1: Health cons, liket some counseling or. Something but they don't
- 2:33:34Speaker 1: do that.
- 2:33:35Speaker 7: Here, No, NO i Mean i've put marriages back into
- 2:33:37Speaker 7: the bedroom together because you, know husband's no longer, snoring
- 2:33:40Speaker 7: so now they're sleeping.
- 2:33:41Speaker 3: Together SO I i one of my.
- 2:33:43Speaker 1: Great friends growing.
- 2:33:44Speaker 3: UP i remember being so weird it out because they were,
- 2:33:48Speaker 3: like this is my mom's, room this is my dad's.
- 2:33:50Speaker 6: Room, Yeah AND i was like.
- 2:33:51Speaker 3: What and it's because the dad snored so long and
- 2:33:55Speaker 3: so loud that even, whatever thirty years into their marriage
- 2:33:58Speaker 3: is just like all.
- 2:33:59Speaker 1: Right. Yeah although now being married almost a decade, myself at.
- 2:34:04Speaker 7: Sometimes it's nice to see there's merit to have, yab
- 2:34:06Speaker 7: but you, know you want to you want to keep
- 2:34:08Speaker 7: that connection with your smith, too so for.
- 2:34:10Speaker 1: Sure get yourself back into the.
- 2:34:13Speaker 3: Bedroom eight oh, one three, three five nine eight two. Four,
- 2:34:17Speaker 3: see there's so many reasons to be making the phone
- 2:34:20Speaker 3: call right. Now, mandy thanks for having us out.
- 2:34:22Speaker 5: Here thank, you it was fun to have you.
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