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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Let's Dive Into the "Is Dave Washed?" Argument · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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My furnace is fixed and Jay Birch is
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in the chat talking Latin.
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Let's find out what that's about next.
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I love the chase and the hunt,
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and I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want,
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and I always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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Now wake up!
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror if he is no
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friend to me.
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It's not working out,
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maybe it's the chemistry.
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It's time to break up so I can
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make a better me.
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D-O-W-W!
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It's lunch time.
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What is going on everybody?
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Welcome to lunch with the Clydesdale.
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I am here.
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I am alone.
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Corey has a family emergency he needed to
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attend to.
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So thoughts and prayers out to him and
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his family.
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It seems as though everything is okay.
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Don't want people to get too worked up
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about it,
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but he has to take care of some
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stuff.
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So hopefully he and his family are doing
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just fine.
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What's going on, everyone?
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I come in to do the show,
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and Jay Birch has left this.
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I think it's Latin,
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but I didn't do well in junior high
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Latin, so there we go.
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I don't know.
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Maybe he'll come back and translate for
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us.
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We got Joseph.
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We got Meredith.
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We got Terry.
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We got Ken in the house.
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We got...
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David Reed.
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We've got Amanda, uh, Ken Walters,
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best podcast, walking music in the space.
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I mean, this is facts.
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Love it.
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Uh, yeah.
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Latin placeholder.
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I, yeah,
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it's been a long time since I've had
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Latin class, man.
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Um, so not good at it.
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Not good at all.
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Uh,
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It's a text holder.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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And Jay Burch.
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Your wisdom sometimes flies right over my
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head.
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We use that in design so that customers
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don't focus on content.
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Okay, there you go.
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It must be a thing.
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It must be a thing.
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So it's been a weird week, man.
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My furnace went out Monday.
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It got fixed this morning.
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So that's good because the temperatures
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are supposed to dip back down here in
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a little bit in maybe a day or
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two.
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But we were able to get through it
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pretty unscathed with no heat.
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Our little space heater was doing more
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than enough and actually made our house
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warmer than it is normally.
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So we made it through that.
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Yesterday,
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I was actually in a meeting where I
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had to present to my bosses.
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I got a ton of compliments.
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I actually felt good about what had
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happened and what they said to me.
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And I DMed a coworker like,
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is this what feeling good means and proud
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of your work?
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Because I'm just not used to that.
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I'm getting compliments and such,
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but it was pretty awesome.
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I felt pretty good about myself yesterday.
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So that was good.
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This week I've started back to doing some
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workouts, trying to be creative,
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trying to up the intensity.
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Hopefully that I can get into the open
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timeline and maybe do some stuff this
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year.
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I don't know.
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I still have a biopsy Monday,
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but I've been doing a couple workouts this
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week and I'm hurting.
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I'm feeling like I'm moving in molasses
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right now.
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Uh, and so it's, it's hard,
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but I know I have to get through
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this spot to get to where I need
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to be.
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Uh,
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been dialing in the nutrition over the
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last week or so.
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Um, feeling good there.
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But I want to ask you guys,
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when you dial in your nutrition,
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what's the first thing you miss?
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And what's weird for me right now is
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I'm missing something very bizarre.
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When I was a kid,
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after every swim meet,
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McDonald's would donate like a five-gallon
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jug of orange drink,
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like high-C orange drink.
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And there are times where
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my mouth waters just talking about it.
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The memory of those days,
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like chugging back high C orange drink
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after a swim meet was just my favorite
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thing in the whole world.
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And McDonald's still sells it today.
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You can drive through,
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get an orange drink.
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Um,
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For some reason,
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that is just the craving I have right
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now.
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Seema says sour candy is her thing.
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Yeah, I am a fruity candy.
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If I go to candy,
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that is kind of where I'm at.
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Sour candy is so good.
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But right now,
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that's not really what's on my list.
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It's just this orange drink.
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Mark Phillips says PB&J sandwiches.
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Yeah.
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Seamus says,
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I had to buy those shameless snacks from
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Amazon,
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but they don't quite hit like Sour Patch
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Kids.
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Okay.
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Wayne is a chips and salsa.
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So back to the PB&J.
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When I went in,
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I had to present to my bosses.
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Apparently,
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a restaurant is opened up right by the
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state office tower,
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and it sells gourmet PB&J.
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And they were talking about the sandwiches
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there.
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And I'm like, seriously,
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we're to a point in our society where
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you have to go to a restaurant to
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get a PB&J?
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To me,
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that was like what you resorted to when
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you had nothing else in the house.
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And I like PB&J.
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But now you can,
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you buy it in a restaurant.
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I mean,
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if this thing's successful kudos to them
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because man, the, the,
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the inventory would not be hard to keep
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up with, but dang.
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Um,
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Meredith says I missed the random snacking
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that I didn't even realize I was doing
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throughout the day.
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Isn't that, isn't that odd how that goes?
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So I immediately,
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as I was dialing everything in,
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I went and bought a bunch of fresh
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vegetables, chopped them up.
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So I had that thing I could throw
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in a bowl and just kind of throw
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in my mouth that allows me to have
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some crunch.
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So I have some radishes, some carrots,
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some celery,
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some peppers that I can just grab and
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throw in my mouth.
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But yeah.
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So,
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and hoping like the vitamins and stuff and
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that helped me get through my soreness of
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the last couple of days.
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Lido comes in with fries for me and
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pizza.
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Jay Burch has probably chips.
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Greg said nuts and seeds to that.
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So that's what I snack on.
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There you go.
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Yeah, I like that stuff too.
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I just don't ever think about it when
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I'm at the store.
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Love seeds, love nuts.
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So there it is.
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The other kind of guilty pleasure I wanted
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to talk about is,
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you know how like in the things in
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the streaming world now are
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are placed at you like they have to
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do event programming.
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Event programming is getting higher
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ratings than scripted television.
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It's much cheaper in the long run.
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And so a lot of your streaming services
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are trying to get in with the NFL,
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in with the NBA,
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so they can do event programming.
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Well,
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the latest big event coming to Netflix is
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this.
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Ronda Rousey versus Gina Serrano,
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I think is how it's pronounced.
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Carano, Serrano, one of those two.
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Ronda Rousey's MMA career ended with a
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handful of losses.
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Gina Carano has not fought since two
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thousand nine.
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And you know what?
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I'm all in on this fight.
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I'm all in.
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I have been burned by the Mike Tyson,
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Jake Paul fight.
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I've been burned by the, uh, Mike Tyson,
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Roy Jones jr.
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Fight.
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It didn't amount to anything cause they
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were way past their prime.
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And yet here they come with another fight
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and I am all in, all in,
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all in.
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I,
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Ronda Rousey for a moment was the Mike
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Tyson of MMA.
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Then people figured her out and she just
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kept losing.
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Gina Serrano was one of the greatest MMA
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fighters early on in its existence.
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And to see both of these legends go
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toe to toe, I think is awesome.
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I just hope, I hope it can deliver.
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Because I've been disappointed with every
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other event like this.
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It's being produced by Jake Paul.
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He's the one that brought us the Jake
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Paul, Mike Tyson fight on Netflix.
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Yeah.
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Ken Walters.
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The Bridges-Heppner fight.
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Yeah, that thing was a joke.
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Jacob Heppner dominated that so much.
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He was younger.
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He was bigger.
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And Josh Bridges didn't stand a chance.
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So yeah,
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we have these things and we get sucked
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into them.
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And I admit it, I'm there.
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I'm so sucked into all this.
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But here we go.
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I guess...
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I guess Ken is getting killed with snow
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this weekend.
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Yeah.
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Almost all of our snow is gone.
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It's been warm all week.
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Um, and everything is melted.
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So two more things before we dive fully
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into the CrossFit stuff.
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And that is,
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I know a lot of people are Tyson
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Bajent fans.
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I'm a Chicago Bears fan.
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I love Tyson Bajent.
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I love his interviews.
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I love what he does.
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But there are rumors circling right now
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that he is about to get, well,
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I'm not saying about to get traded.
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There is a team that is extremely
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interested in bringing him in to be their
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starting quarterback.
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And that is the Arizona Cardinals.
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Um, this isn't a done deal.
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The league year has not started yet.
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Um, the trade cannot be made yet.
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Um,
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but it does appear like from all the
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stuff I'm watching from Chicago,
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that there is serious interest in Tyson
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Beijing, um, from the Arizona Cardinals.
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Um,
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And that would bring him in to most
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likely be their starting quarterback.
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And I'm torn because I think he's like
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the best backup quarterback in the league.
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And I love having them there as a
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safety valve.
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But I think he's good enough to be
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given a shot.
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And with Caleb Williams,
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the starter in Chicago,
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he's never going to get a fair shot
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at being the starter.
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And so I... On one hand,
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I want him to stay.
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On another hand,
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I want him to have an opportunity.
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So...
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Sean Lunderman says he isn't a starter in
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the league.
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I think he is, man.
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I think he is.
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And I actually think the Cardinals are a
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good fit.
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They have good receivers.
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They have a good tight end.
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Their tight end was rookie of the year.
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I think that it is really,
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really a good fit for him.
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Ken Walter says Murray salaries too much
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to dump.
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I think thirty eight point six and
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nineteen and twenty seven.
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Yeah, but Tyson just signed an extension.
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He's he's under contract for two more
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years at.
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Less than ten million a season.
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So you're getting a guy to try him
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out at less than ten million a year
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for
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that can help you dump a bigger salary
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because you're not putting it all into the
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one position.
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Train all of wouldn't be the first time
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a backup shines as a starter,
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someone out somewhere else.
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Yeah.
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And I,
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every opportunity Tyson has been given,
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he shined.
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It's just that they drafted a guy.
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Number one,
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who is paying off and it's going to
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be impossible to leapfrog that guy.
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Yeah.
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And so when given the opportunity,
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the preseason Tyson was on fire.
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When he was given four starts two years
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ago,
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he went two and two in the NFL
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on a bad team.
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A bad team.
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He went two and two.
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Sean Linderman,
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he played on a bad Bears team.
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Very bad.
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Very bad.
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He did not have the team that the
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Bears have today.
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They had zero offensive line.
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They had nothing at the skill position.
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He had nobody to throw to.
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Now, if he's given an opportunity,
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he has Marvin Harrison Jr.
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He has the rookie tight end in Arizona.
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He has a better offensive line.
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He has a decent running game there.
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I think it's a better chance for him
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to succeed.
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As a backup,
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he had a great deal and a good
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team provides extra playoff money too.
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True, but being a starter,
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he could make like major, major coin.
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Yeah, if he stays in Chicago,
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it's just waiting for Caleb to possibly
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get hurt, basically.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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And he's a nice safety valve if that
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happens.
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But you don't want him to lose out
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on an opportunity.
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Now, he chose to stay in Chicago.
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He signed the extension,
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and he said he did so because he
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wanted more time to learn under Ben
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Johnson before he goes to take his shot
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at winning in the NFL.
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And I think that's a smart move.
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Yeah.
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Sean Letterman,
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that would be great for him.
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I really like Tyson.
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Not trying to sound like an ultra-hater.
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I'm really conflicted, to be honest.
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I want him to stay in Chicago because
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he's a great backup quarterback.
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But I do think he deserves the
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opportunity.
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Right,
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but who's going to pick up Murray's salary
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as he hasn't really performed?
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In Minnesota,
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they say Vikings are looking at Murray
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trade,
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but that cap hit would really mess us
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up.
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I've heard a bunch of teams listed.
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Ken, I've heard the Jets.
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I've heard the Steelers trying to give him
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a second chance.
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His talent is undeniable.
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It's the work ethic that people need to
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know about.
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So we'll see about Kyler Murray.
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And Ken is daydreaming because he is
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having a big vivid dream here that he
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wants the Vikes to trade for Burrow to
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reunite him with Jefferson.
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Come on, dude.
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The Bengals are never letting Burrow out.
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Never.
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All right,
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last thing I want to talk about,
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and this is kind of into CrossFit,
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and that is I was listening to the
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WOD Prep podcast, their Monday night show,
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and I was...
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They were talking about how cool it would
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be to have like celebrity throwdowns
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similar to Roe versus Boz where they
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matched up people of similar skill sets to
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go against each other at open
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announcement.
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And they were trying to find someone for
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like John Young or some people were
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suggesting people for Claire to take on.
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And one of the things that was brought
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up was that Claire should take on Jamie,
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our Jamie, my Jamie.
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And Claire said, oh,
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Jamie would wipe the floor with me.
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That's not a good match.
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I think Claire is super fit.
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CJ jumped in and said, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I think you could do well against Jamie.
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Jamie is an absolute savage.
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And if Jamie is head-to-head with anybody,
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she will trounce them.
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I love Claire.
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I think she's super fit.
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I think she would do awesome against a
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lot of people.
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But I think people underestimate how fit
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Jamie
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Jamie Latimer is.
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She won the open in her age group
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last year.
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She finished sixth at the games this year,
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and she has had shoulder injuries and hip
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injuries that she's been fighting through
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and finally got corrective surgery for
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those things.
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I think people underestimate how truly fit
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Jamie is.
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Sean says, Jamie's pretty high level.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Real high level.
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Real high level.
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If you remember the first ever World
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Fitness Project qualifiers,
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Jamie qualified.
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Now, she messed up her video,
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so it got taken away.
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But she qualified as an elite athlete for
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the first ever when everybody was jumping
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into the WFP qualifiers.
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She's forty one years old and she's doing
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that stuff.
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Mark Phillips says, yeah,
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that matchup isn't really close.
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Jay Birch love Claire,
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but Jamie would dominate.
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Yeah.
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And it's nothing against Claire.
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Like Jamie's just another world savage,
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especially head to head.
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Sean says, oh, yeah,
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just making sure I'm thinking of the
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correct Jamie.
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CJ is high.
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Yeah.
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How is she recovering from the surgeries?
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I think she's way ahead of schedule.
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Way, way, way ahead of schedule.
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Yeah.
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So Clark says Jamie versus John Young.
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See, that would all depend on the workout.
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If it's more cardio based,
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I think Jamie has him by a mile.
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I think if it's strength based,
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John would crush her.
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Denise says she doesn't look forty one.
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She doesn't.
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She is so fit.
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Train all of Jamie will still make
22:08
quarters,
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if not beyond even recovering from her
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surgery.
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Again, she has said it on the show.
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It all depends on what pops up.
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There's just a couple things that she is
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struggling with right now.
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Other than that,
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she's going to try and we'll see how
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it goes.
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Amanda likes the fact of Jamie versus John
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young.
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Yeah.
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I truly like, let's be honest.
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John is in the top.
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Five percent of CrossFitters in strength.
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And because of that,
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if it's a strength wad,
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he has it hands down,
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but for fitness level, Jamie is savage.
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Ken says,
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and Jamie also has great hair days.
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She does.
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But yeah,
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I had to step in for my girl.
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When I heard that, like, come on.
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So... Train Olive says,
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is she still so fit?
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I don't think it matters.
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I do think it matters on strength because
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that is where Jamie's weakness is.
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And John is really...
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You can't underplay how strong John is.
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He is so strong.
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But it could be interesting if it's a
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blend of the two.
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So there.
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This week on Dave's Week in Review,
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he announced that he is definitely doing
23:48
twenty six point one as doing that
23:51
announcement.
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It also seemed like he was leaning toward
24:00
announcing twenty six,
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two and three as well.
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So I think that's a good thing.
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I think we're in a place where we
24:08
need just those steady things that happen
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to keep us moving forward.
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I want to say yesterday we were at
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a hundred and twenty six thousand open
24:22
registrations.
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So still moving in a good direction.
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With just about a week and a day
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to go.
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So that's good.
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Can't wait to see what we see today.
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And then I wanted to just dive in
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a little on this piece.
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And I know CJ and Claire talked about
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this too.
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And it's been like all the rage on
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the internet.
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And that is a Mason startup did a
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video asking the question, is Dave washed?
25:05
And I think at the end of the
25:07
day where I've kind of landed is it's
25:11
unfair to judge him by the last couple
25:14
years.
25:16
I think there's been so much handcuffing
25:18
done in the last couple years that he
25:22
has not been allowed or not been able
25:26
to do more.
25:28
Now,
25:28
I know that there has to be a
25:31
thing where the workouts have to be
25:34
accessible.
25:37
As we're trying to grow the sport and
25:39
grow the open registrations,
25:41
the more people can do it and start
25:44
it, the better off we are.
25:50
But I think he can,
25:51
the one part I hope gets better,
25:54
and hopefully this year,
25:56
is more of those gated workouts where as
26:01
you move through,
26:02
it gets harder and harder.
26:07
And because then it's accessible at the
26:12
beginning for everybody,
26:15
but there comes a point where then the
26:18
better athletes take over.
26:21
And they get to shine as well.
26:26
And I know it's a hard bridge to
26:29
deal with.
26:30
And I don't,
26:32
I don't envy Dave at all in these
26:34
spots because you are trying to serve two
26:39
different worlds.
26:41
You're serving the average everyday
26:44
CrossFitter who walks into the gym and
26:47
wants to be able to say they've done
26:50
an open workout RX.
26:52
And then you have another group that are
26:55
trying to be the best of the best
26:57
and qualify for the CrossFit Games.
27:00
And they want to show off why they
27:03
are the best of the best.
27:07
And so it's just a tightrope that he
27:11
has to walk that I do not envy.
27:14
And I think it's an unfair question to
27:16
ask if he's washed based on the last
27:19
couple years.
27:20
The other thing that CJ brought up and
27:24
I really liked his answer on was it's
27:29
one man's opinion evaluating his
27:32
programming.
27:34
And what my thought was,
27:36
that's the same as people who say that
27:39
Dave is just one man and doing all
27:41
the programming.
27:43
If one person just comes in and analyzes
27:45
it with their own thought process and
27:48
their own criteria,
27:50
and they don't meet what they expect,
27:53
it's easy to say that Dave didn't do
27:57
X, Y, and Z,
27:58
and therefore he's washed because you're
28:01
setting the criteria.
28:06
So I think based on one person's set
28:09
of criteria,
28:11
that's a little bit of an unfair analysis.
28:14
Now,
28:15
does he have the right to put it
28:16
out there and make a statement and let
28:18
the world decide based on what they see?
28:21
Yeah, I think that is pretty cool.
28:24
I like that he did it.
28:26
I like that he put it out there.
28:28
But at the end of the day,
28:29
we have to realize
28:31
He's judging Dave on his criteria for what
28:36
the programming should be.
28:41
Right?
28:41
This isn't a committee.
28:42
This isn't a group of people that got
28:44
together and said,
28:45
to find the fittest on earth,
28:47
we need X, Y, and Z.
28:49
This is Mason sitting down and saying,
28:52
I think there needs to be more squats.
28:54
And I think there needs to be this.
28:56
And this is why Dave is washed.
29:03
I don't think he is.
29:03
I think he has birthed this sport.
29:05
I think he has grown this sport.
29:07
I think that it's been a hell of
29:09
a couple years where he was thrown into
29:13
the spotlight to be the scapegoat for what
29:15
happened with Lazar in twenty twenty four.
29:19
And because of that,
29:21
he's had a lot to deal with and
29:23
a lot to figure out on how to
29:25
do this programming.
29:27
And I think he's done the best with
29:30
the amount of rope they are allowing him
29:33
to have.
29:35
And through all this,
29:37
being the guy that's taken it on the
29:39
chin, where everybody's like, fire him,
29:42
fire him, fire him,
29:43
who are against what CrossFit HQ were
29:46
doing.
29:46
And he took all that on and let
29:50
Don Fall go hide,
29:52
let the board not have to come out
29:53
and say anything.
29:55
Dave took all that on himself.
29:59
And to then judge his programming through
30:01
that era is a little bit harsh.
30:11
That's my feelings.
30:13
I think he's had way more responsibilities
30:15
over the last couple years than
30:19
programming.
30:22
I think programming is what he loves and
30:24
I think he does the best he can
30:26
with what he got,
30:27
but he also had to be the scapegoat.
30:30
He also was the only one doing media
30:32
until mid last year.
30:35
He was the only one trying to get
30:36
information out.
30:38
And that happened even before the Lazar
30:40
situation where he interviewed all of the,
30:43
the games athletes where he was
30:46
interviewing the affiliate owners and
30:50
He was the only one putting out media
30:53
from CrossFit HQ.
30:55
Then he becomes the scapegoat.
30:57
He's the only one talking publicly.
31:00
He's the only one answering questions for
31:04
everything that happened and everybody who
31:08
wanted to blame them.
31:11
He was the only one out there
31:12
front-facing, taking all of that on.
31:16
I don't think to come in now and
31:19
say, well,
31:20
your programming sucked during that time
31:22
is, is fair to say, in my opinion,
31:30
I think he's done a hell of a
31:31
job during this period of CrossFit.
31:36
And now he has some media backing.
31:39
Now he has some people coming into play
31:41
with them and the open registrations are
31:44
climbing.
31:54
Wayne Short says,
31:54
there's no such thing as perfect
31:56
programming.
31:57
If something exposes your weaknesses,
32:00
just go get better.
32:01
There you go.
32:05
Jody loves TDC.
32:07
Vicky says, ditto.
32:11
And Vicky then says,
32:13
I think it's funny that people criticize
32:15
the person that created the whole idea for
32:17
the games to begin with.
32:19
Well, true,
32:20
and I'm sure he has a criteria of
32:27
what he thinks everything needs to
32:29
include,
32:30
and it may not match what Mason's criteria
32:33
are for what he thinks it is.
32:37
The one thing I know for sure is
32:39
in most sports, every season is different.
32:43
When you get to the end of the
32:44
season and you crown the fittest on earth
32:47
or you crown the champion,
32:50
they are the champion of that season.
32:52
And that season was constructed in this
32:54
way.
32:55
And because it was constructed in this
32:57
way, you are the champion of that season.
33:01
to say there's perfect programming and
33:03
that it should be redundant.
33:05
And CJ made this point.
33:07
If we stick to criteria so much,
33:10
we become the IF-three.
33:13
I don't want to be the IF-three.
33:18
I want to be what we are.
33:28
Uh...
33:32
I'm with you, Scott.
33:38
I'm with you, Scott.
33:38
Plus,
33:39
we can't even comprehend what Dave went
33:41
through in twenty twenty four.
33:44
I try to comprehend what Dave went through
33:46
in twenty twenty four because I don't
33:48
think a lot of people have put themselves
33:51
in his shoes and in what he's dealt
33:53
with during that time.
33:58
when i put myself in his shoes i'm
34:01
a lot more lenient to all the other
34:04
stuff because when everybody at crossfit
34:08
ran and hid he didn't he didn't he
34:14
went on the savon show he still did
34:17
his week in review he still comes on
34:19
the internet and takes questions um or
34:23
comments uh from everybody
34:27
He didn't run and hide.
34:28
And so I try to put myself in
34:30
those shoes and a shoe,
34:33
but I don't think I can fully understand
34:37
not being in them.
34:38
And thank God I'm not in those shoes
34:43
because I don't want to be the one
34:44
that has to deal with that.
34:46
And I'm sure he didn't want to be
34:48
the one who dealt with all that.
34:50
He just ended up being the only one
34:51
who was willing to.
35:01
Jody,
35:02
who never hears of anybody but Siobhan and
35:04
myself, and I love her for that,
35:07
doesn't know who Mason is.
35:11
He actually just did a video with Hiller,
35:13
like a two-hour video where they kind of
35:16
talk about who he is.
35:19
I don't know what his background is
35:21
completely,
35:22
but I know he's been making videos since
35:23
twenty twenty two and he just recently got
35:28
like folded into the Hiller universe.
35:33
And he doesn't make a ton of videos,
35:35
but they're very well researched,
35:38
very well edited,
35:39
and he does a great job with them.
35:44
Danny says,
35:45
I think it's hard to work for and
35:46
represent a company whose future seems
35:48
unsure.
35:49
I think there's that too.
35:56
A perfect program exposes those
35:58
weaknesses.
36:00
And again, Joseph,
36:02
I don't think there's one way to program
36:05
this stuff.
36:07
I think there are several ways to program
36:10
and all of them can be acceptable in
36:12
that season.
36:14
And to please all few hundred thousand
36:19
people every year is never going to
36:21
happen.
36:22
We all have holes in our game and
36:24
we're all going to bitch about something.
36:27
That's just the way this community is.
36:30
but I think in the,
36:31
in the long run,
36:31
he does the best job at being as
36:36
inclusive as possible to the average
36:39
CrossFitter and still testing those that
36:43
have to go on to the games.
36:55
Uh,
36:57
I do know he's pretty fit,
36:59
but he's the only person I have to
37:02
listen to at two and a half times
37:03
speed because his voice bugs me.
37:09
That's funny, Vicky.
37:10
That's funny.
37:11
Yeah,
37:11
there's a lot of podcasts I listen to
37:13
on higher speeds.
37:14
I don't know if I've ever got to
37:15
two and a half.
37:17
I don't think I've ever,
37:18
ever got to two and a half.
37:23
And Amanda says he also doesn't have
37:25
social media.
37:26
Yeah, he doesn't like the comments.
37:28
He doesn't read the comments.
37:30
He says on Hiller that he doesn't even
37:32
have social media because he wants to be
37:36
more productive.
37:39
But there it is.
37:42
So in my opinion, Dave is not washed.
37:44
Dave's role has just had to shift based
37:48
on everything that's happened around him.
37:50
And therefore, maybe, just maybe,
37:54
during these times,
37:55
programming wasn't all-encompassing for
37:58
him during those times.
38:01
Because he had all this other shit to
38:03
deal with.
38:06
Like a ton of other shit.
38:13
And I'm sure that he's working to get
38:15
better.
38:16
I'm sure that nobody self-evaluates what
38:19
they've done and sees it play out like
38:22
he does.
38:26
So I'm excited for this Open.
38:29
I hope Dave comes out and shows the
38:31
world that he can still be creative,
38:33
that he can still lay down some awesome
38:36
programming and do all that.
38:48
Clock asked, does Mason even do CrossFit?
38:51
His own programming looks like
38:53
conventional strength and conditioning
38:55
workouts with a veneer of CrossFit.
38:58
Again, I don't know a lot about him.
39:01
I got partway through the Hiller video.
39:04
I did not finish it.
39:06
I need to go back and do that.
39:07
But yeah.
39:12
On to a few other things.
39:13
I do want to get you guys off
39:15
of here in the next six minutes because
39:18
the Sport of Fitness podcast is announcing
39:21
the athletes for twenty six point three.
39:25
So I want to make sure you guys
39:26
get over for that.
39:28
That is over on the CrossFit Games
39:30
channel.
39:32
And they're having Dylan Malitzky on to do
39:35
that.
39:35
So Dylan and Chase will be talking about
39:38
what a palooza I'm sure.
39:40
And and there it is.
39:45
Glock says, yeah,
39:45
that was a tough video to get through.
39:47
I didn't make it past three quarters.
39:49
Yeah.
39:52
Yeah.
39:52
I'm with you.
39:53
That's all I'll say.
39:54
I'm with you.
39:58
Wayne brings up a good point.
39:59
This is not my rundown,
40:01
but I missed Pedro's pod with fee.
40:03
Is her shoulder now good to go?
40:04
Saw she signed with WFP.
40:06
I've not seen an update on the shoulder,
40:08
Wayne.
40:09
I don't think it's better,
40:11
but I do think that there were backfills
40:14
and she was given the opportunity for
40:15
guaranteed money.
40:17
And this is kind of where there's a,
40:21
uh,
40:22
This is where guaranteed money has its
40:25
problems.
40:26
So she signs.
40:28
What happens if tour event one,
40:32
she shows up and event one comes up
40:35
and it's got handstand pushups and she
40:37
does the wave to the crowd.
40:40
Hey guys.
40:42
And then walks to the finish line and
40:43
doesn't do the event.
40:45
Just like that happened at the finals in
40:47
Copenhagen.
40:50
She showed up.
40:51
She did her thing.
40:53
She's guaranteed that money.
40:56
That's not what I want to see.
41:00
That's not what I want to see.
41:02
But I also understand they just offered
41:04
her a guarantee of a couple tens of
41:08
thousands of dollars.
41:11
Do you not sign?
41:12
Do you walk away?
41:17
It's...
41:20
I am friends with fee.
41:22
Fee is freaking awesome.
41:26
This is not a dig on fee.
41:28
It's a dig on the construction of the
41:30
season with guaranteed money.
41:33
And back in the eighties,
41:35
they ran into this with tennis where
41:37
people were offered guaranteed money to
41:40
come participate in a tennis tournament so
41:43
they could draw crowds.
41:45
And then they would lose on purpose in
41:47
the first round,
41:48
collect the money and go home.
41:53
And that's when tennis had to change
41:55
things up.
42:00
It's just bad construction of their
42:02
season.
42:10
I hope she's better.
42:11
I hope it's not that she's pushing it
42:13
because she got this guaranteed contract
42:15
now and she's going to injure the shoulder
42:18
more.
42:20
I hope that's not the case.
42:23
But again,
42:24
it's just everything sounds good until you
42:28
see the few little loopholes and wrinkles
42:34
in the process that can happen because I
42:42
don't want to watch the Bethany Shadburns
42:45
and the fees just wave to the crowd
42:47
and go to the finish line when someone
42:50
could have been there and competed.
42:54
But again,
42:54
they're trying to get fifty people to
42:56
these events, which is mind-blowing.
43:02
Mind-blowing at this point.
43:08
Ortega says, I'm actually okay with that.
43:10
We don't know if he will actually be
43:11
okay by the time WFP Tour One comes
43:14
out.
43:17
Are we seeing more injuries with
43:18
high-level athletes,
43:20
or is it recency bias getting me?
43:22
I think it's recency bias.
43:26
But I do think that The Boys Interrupted
43:28
made a great point about...
43:35
Justin made a really interesting point.
43:38
Another loophole,
43:39
kind of what I've been saying with these
43:41
five wildcard invites.
43:44
If he qualifies early for the games at
43:47
a semifinal and he doesn't have to do
43:50
a lot in between that and the games,
43:53
he said,
43:54
if I feel like it and my body
43:55
feels good, I'll reach out to them,
43:58
see if I can get a wild card,
44:00
go to tour stop one,
44:02
and then the rest of the WFP season
44:03
is after the game season.
44:07
It's crazy.
44:08
It's crazy.
44:11
There's all these loopholes,
44:13
and that's why they're doing the wildcard
44:15
invite for the thing that Justin just
44:18
brought up himself on Boys Interrupted
44:20
this week.
44:23
So many loopholes to the pro card.
44:26
So many.
44:31
Lito asked if I saw the athlete invited,
44:34
can't remember his name, to Mayhem,
44:37
but then isn't in their roster yet.
44:42
Was it some kind of joke?
44:50
I don't know what you're saying there,
44:51
Lito.
44:56
I know they invited a guy that I
44:59
had not seen before.
45:06
And now I see they posted rosters.
45:13
And it has twenty.
45:16
Yeah, I saw... Where is he at now?
45:21
I don't see the post anymore.
45:26
I know what you're talking about.
45:27
This morning I saw a post of a
45:29
new athlete for the Mayhem Classic.
45:31
It is no longer up.
45:36
So... I don't know.
45:43
I don't know.
45:43
Yeah.
45:44
The post isn't there anymore.
45:45
Yep.
45:46
I know what you're saying.
45:47
I saw it this morning and I was
45:49
like,
45:49
I don't even know who that person is.
45:52
And it has now been taken down.
45:56
So the world may never know Lito.
46:09
Nate Ellingsworth.
46:13
Well, here's the thing.
46:15
And I see barbell spins post.
46:17
They have twenty athletes listed.
46:18
That's how many people they invited.
46:21
That's how many people they were going to
46:22
invite.
46:24
And there they are.
46:25
So.
46:28
There it is.
46:31
All right, guys,
46:34
that filled the docket for the day.
46:36
Sportive Fitness Podcast is going live
46:38
now.
46:39
Why don't you guys head over there,
46:40
see who the announcement's going to be for
46:42
twenty six point three.
46:44
By the silhouettes,
46:45
it looks like two men and two women,
46:48
but we'll find out soon enough.
46:50
Hope you guys have a great rest your
46:51
day.
46:52
Hope Corey's able to jump on with me
46:54
tomorrow.
46:55
We'll see you all next time on Lunch
46:59
with the Clydesdales.