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Shamea's Hawkin', Angela's Squawkin': RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia, & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia does It in Blue.
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  Speaker 3: The time is now for us to discuss the latest
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  Speaker 3: episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta Happy Pride Shamia,
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  Speaker 3: Happy Pride Portia because Samia. Before we get to the episode,
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  Speaker 3: we got to talk about a scandal that he erupted
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend. Shamilla was on The Shaded Room Live
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  Speaker 3: and they did ask her a question in terms of
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna say a name, what's the first thing that
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  Speaker 3: comes to mind? Long story short, they said Porsche. She
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  Speaker 3: said Happy Pride. Porsche then responded and said Happy Pride
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Porscha responded and said Happy Pride to you too. With
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  Speaker 2: the corn ball e moji.
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  Speaker 3: And then she also said that the reunion is coming
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  Speaker 3: up soon and they'll discuss it there.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia, do you think that.
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  Speaker 3: Is ready to reveal that Shmia may have dipped in
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  Speaker 3: the Lady pond as well?
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  Speaker 4: Probably?
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  Speaker 5: And I think a lot of those girls have. I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: I lived in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 6: For one years real for that one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be I'm not. There's no I don't
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  Speaker 5: have pearls. I have diamonds, but if I had pearls,
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  Speaker 5: I would be clutching them. I'll clutch my diamonds. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not gonna like there is no clutching of diamonds down
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  Speaker 5: there because they all this. It's so common down there, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I'll be more amazed if you find me some straight
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  Speaker 5: people down there. Okay, that whole city, all right, everyone's
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  Speaker 5: looking on everybody and body sucking on everybody. It's just
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  Speaker 5: way too common. And it's like a little it's like
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  Speaker 5: a college campus Atlanta, so it's not breaking news, It's
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  Speaker 5: really not. And the way people be playing around, like listen,
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  Speaker 5: I love most of the girls, Carlos King and the
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  Speaker 5: way they be straddling each other, the way Shamia jumped
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  Speaker 5: on top of Drew and they both have the match
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  Speaker 5: and outfits on. I was like, oh, okay, that she's comfortable.
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  Speaker 5: I've never straddled any of my friends because I'm one
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  Speaker 5: of those. I'm like very like. You know, I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: really hugged as a child, so anyways I wasn't. It's okay,
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  Speaker 5: oh baby, it's okay, it's fine, it's fine. I'll make
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  Speaker 5: up for it. But yeah, so's it would be breaking
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  Speaker 5: news and you shouldn't be out of each other. But
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  Speaker 5: if you, I mean, they all they are, they all
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  Speaker 5: looking on each other. I believe it. I'm not shocked
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  Speaker 5: from the bile. Oh du did this? So duh oh
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  Speaker 5: Clutchy not surprised. Now Gerald might be surprised, and I
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  Speaker 5: hope that don't mess them up because she got a
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  Speaker 5: good thing going. Gerald, just go to bed.
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  Speaker 6: Gerald, Jerald, don't watch the show. I don't even think
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  Speaker 6: he watched the damn show. Child, You don't.
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  Speaker 5: He thinks she on traders. He don't even know what
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  Speaker 5: he thinks. He might not even know. He's busy working.
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  Speaker 5: And that's no shade to me, you know, I like you.
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  Speaker 5: I just think that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Glue, I too believe that you should be
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  Speaker 7: who you are for your pride, who you are.
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  Speaker 6: I okay, I'm paying sexual. I have never mounted any
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  Speaker 6: of my female friends, So I there's a to Claudia's point.
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  Speaker 6: There's a level of scissor adjacent activity that I've seen
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  Speaker 6: this season that is is more. It's gayer than me.
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you that much. Okay, I'm not a pan
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  Speaker 6: I'm a skillet apparently because these girls just just they
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  Speaker 6: find a way to just for some reason. I believe
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  Speaker 6: if these talking right now, that Kelly and Shamia had
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  Speaker 6: done something, nobody would bet an eye on this panel.
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  Speaker 5: I think Angela is the only one who hasn't.
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  Speaker 6: I would say Angela is the only one who I
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  Speaker 6: think is a Claudia. I think Angela is like a
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  Speaker 6: random straight.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so before you finish, Before you finish, it's actually good, Claudia,
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  Speaker 3: would you be surprised it became out that.
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  Speaker 2: Shamia and Kelly did something.
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  Speaker 5: I don't get that energy from them. I get that
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  Speaker 5: they're bonding over kind of feeling like the eye man out.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I feel from them.
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  Speaker 6: I bonded other ways.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they I don't think they messed around.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care because when that Allo outfit, they were
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  Speaker 6: in the same outfit, so they had to make their
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  Speaker 6: volbus kiss. I've never had that experience when I'm wearing
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  Speaker 6: a similar outfit to one.
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  Speaker 5: They were matching outfits like Adrian Brona and the other
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  Speaker 5: guy in the in the live have been on the
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  Speaker 5: streamline if you haven't seen that the streams they just
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  Speaker 5: like and he went to kiss them. Okay, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the shade the commentary of me and
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  Speaker 3: as it relates that happy.
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  Speaker 8: Pride, that coment just made me laugh. Okay, Well a
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  Speaker 8: couple things. Number One, Porsia already soft launched the I'm
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  Speaker 8: Gonna throw me his bones out the closet last year
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  Speaker 8: on the reunion.
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  Speaker 4: But she was like, I kiss Candy the club. You
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  Speaker 4: kiss Candy in the.
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  Speaker 8: Club, and she sprinked with that bread clumb because everybody
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  Speaker 8: caught it and was like, hold on, you know what
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Remember this is where the record comes in.
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  Speaker 6: I love it so much.
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  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Remember friend, when those when Fader first made
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  Speaker 8: those allegations that Shamillah was fucking Candy and Todd, right, that's.
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  Speaker 4: What she said.
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  Speaker 8: They find that's what she said when she made those allegations.
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  Speaker 8: Shamilah has gone public in several interviews saying she ain't
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  Speaker 8: never had no lesbian experience, She's never been with a
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  Speaker 8: woman a girl.
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  Speaker 3: She says she's never had a lesbian experience, or did
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  Speaker 3: she say with Candy?
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  Speaker 4: No, in general, not with Candy.
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  Speaker 8: She says she's never been with a woman, and she
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  Speaker 8: talks about my first time in a joking way, would
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  Speaker 8: have to be whatever. So she's already said that it
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  Speaker 8: has not happened, so I have no choice but to
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  Speaker 8: go on that, you know what I'm saying. Kelly has
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  Speaker 8: also said on the show that she's not into girls
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  Speaker 8: flat out when when Portie accused her trying to scissor
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  Speaker 8: her and she said what she said about the snack aisle.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: I think that she said she don't like women, So
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  Speaker 8: that's that they just not they not they don't like women.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just leave it there, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: But it'll be interesting to see what Porscha had to say,
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  Speaker 8: because that comment did look like when she gets to
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  Speaker 8: the reunion, she's going to try to elude or either
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  Speaker 8: directly accuse Shemiah being with a woman before that's what
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  Speaker 8: that comment led me to believe.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think that's cool. If her biggest they're
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  Speaker 5: trying to like create this narrative that Shamia is the
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  Speaker 5: one that's feeding all the information to Kelly and then
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  Speaker 5: to turn around and be telling on your longtime friend.
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  Speaker 5: There's certain things that you're like, all right, let me
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  Speaker 5: tell some surface stuff. But I just think there's certain
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  Speaker 5: things that neither one of them should be outing you
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  Speaker 5: about each other. If you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Don't tell shit on me unless you don't want us
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  Speaker 8: to never make back up. Don't even tell nobody my
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  Speaker 8: favorite color. Don't say nothing about any secrets we share
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  Speaker 8: because I'm not telling nothing.
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  Speaker 6: You see a video of Shamia with the rest of
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  Speaker 6: that live with the word association. To me, it was
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  Speaker 6: talking like somebody who's begging to get beat up. Though
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting the way she's talking. It's like if somebody
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  Speaker 6: mollywops you, I almost can't defend you because it's like
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  Speaker 6: you were begging to be mollywopped. She's talking in a
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  Speaker 6: way where I hope she can fight because it's like
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  Speaker 6: heavy handed, but.
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  Speaker 4: Also I'm sorry I get in there.
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  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, like the I was surprised by the
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  Speaker 6: Shade Room clip because I've always found Shemia very entertaining,
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  Speaker 6: very clever. She's pithy, has great one liners and quips.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes her bits go a little bit too long to
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  Speaker 6: Dustin's point a couple of weeks ago, but I appreciate
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  Speaker 6: the comedic timing. I think she'd be great doing Wild
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  Speaker 6: now it's not even so long. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 6: like shemis a funny girl, right, And I keep on
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  Speaker 6: saying she's so ridiculously talented. I know she wants more
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  Speaker 6: because it's too much talent to just sit on. And however,
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  Speaker 6: Calma she was talking like she went to fight everybody,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm like, do you know how to fight everybody?
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  Speaker 6: I couldn't sorry for her safety at this point.
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  Speaker 5: I could like She's like, you know what, I was
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  Speaker 5: nice the first season and then I'm the bad guy
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  Speaker 5: every I don't like that everything is Shamia's fault, like
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  Speaker 5: everything goes back to Shamia. I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 5: I think she's becoming the new Jeru wh're just easy
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  Speaker 5: to just jump on her for everything. I think she's
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  Speaker 5: done some stuff, but I don't think she's done everything
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  Speaker 5: and I think she's sick of it, and she's like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, ef itt you get black spider Man?
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  Speaker 5: Who uh, Shemia. Now, I tried, and that's why I
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  Speaker 5: think the reason she was but a lot of them do.
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  Speaker 5: They all do that. One of my main reasons when
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  Speaker 5: not liking Phators because she went on Ellen Degeneroes and
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  Speaker 5: she did the same thing to to half of us.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't meet the girl, so I get it.
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  Speaker 5: While you like, you know, rah rah rah, she's sick
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  Speaker 5: of it. I think I think shemis really hurt that
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  Speaker 5: she's her position on the show. She's not friends with
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  Speaker 5: her best seat no more, and she's feeling like she
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  Speaker 5: sees the comments coming off.
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  Speaker 6: Was sorry to come off more better than I would
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  Speaker 6: like for her because I really do enjoy her.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise, I'm glad she was talking. I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like Real Housewives back in its glory days,
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  Speaker 8: talk shit in all your interview. That's what Ninnie and
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  Speaker 8: them did. Yeah, we still with this day are watching.
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  Speaker 8: We're still to this day rewatching that Ninny Ryan Seacrest
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  Speaker 8: interview when her and Kim was arguing and Candy and
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  Speaker 8: Lisa and Autumn was there. That was press for the show.
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  Speaker 8: Shami was in the shade room doing a press interview.
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  Speaker 8: Pop your shit, Shamiyah, that's what you should be doing
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  Speaker 8: in their faces and in your interviews.
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  Speaker 4: I was happy to see it.
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  Speaker 8: This was one of the best episodes of Real Housewives
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  Speaker 8: of Atlanta in years. You know why because it was
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  Speaker 8: just like the glory days of Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 8: Everything from on the street, in the moment confessionals, the
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  Speaker 8: way they had Shamia and Angela talking at the car,
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  Speaker 8: that's old school Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah, crew was
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  Speaker 8: meeting with that team of people that she threw together.
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  Speaker 8: That was old school Charae planning her parties and shit
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  Speaker 8: and Charay having all these workers and assistants that weren't logical.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. That was old school shit.
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  Speaker 8: Pinky swinging acting like she was going to swing at Porsche,
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  Speaker 8: old school like when Fader put that picked that purse up,
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  Speaker 8: like she was gonna hate Kenya.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: All of this ship is like old school Real Housewives
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  Speaker 8: of Atlanta, and it felt so motherfucking good to watch.
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  Speaker 8: So I was not mad about Shamia talking ship to
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  Speaker 8: the Shavero. She needs to do it more, do it again.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just worried for her safety, that's all. No.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with with Dustin.
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  Speaker 3: I believe in fun shade and what I listen, I
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  Speaker 3: don't like.
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  Speaker 2: A massive amount of tweets m hm, so's sharing your star.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, let us watch it.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with dustn't when you're on the press tour,
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  Speaker 3: shave them down and as somebody inter be housewives, come
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  Speaker 3: on realcas with the King and shave them on my show, right,
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: If any the girls want to come on this show,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, come on and come.
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  Speaker 2: I'm working on some things. Yes, okay. So though I
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  Speaker 2: think I.
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  Speaker 3: Think Samiya is fed up and listen, I actually think
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  Speaker 3: it's good that Shamia is being like, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: fuck this, y'all hated me when I try to be
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  Speaker 3: you know, the person that got everybody together, y'all hate
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  Speaker 3: me this.
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  Speaker 2: I love that Shamiya has tapped into her villain era.
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  Speaker 3: And once again, I don't mean it's a bad thing
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  Speaker 3: because Kenya Moore, who's my real friend in real life,
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  Speaker 3: is the best villain reality TV has seen ever. She
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: has to pass Alma Rosa miles of hit. Kenya Moore
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  Speaker 3: the best villain reality television has seen. I hope with
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  Speaker 3: dustin this episode. It was funny because I was talking
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  Speaker 3: to find Shit and I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I'm home at eight
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: o'clock because I want to watch Atlanta Housewives. And it
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  Speaker 3: hit me in that moment that I haven't felt that
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  Speaker 3: way since season nine. Yeah, it was appointment television. No
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  Speaker 3: shape to the rest of the seasons. I'm not here
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  Speaker 3: to diss the seasons. What I'm saying to you guys
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  Speaker 3: is this season is the best season since season nine
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  Speaker 3: because I am looking forward to watching it live on
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  Speaker 3: Sunday at eight o'clock. I don't want to watch it
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  Speaker 3: on Peacock the next day, but y'all cant this shit
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  Speaker 3: live and this cast is so strong.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out, shout.
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  Speaker 3: Out to the girls for bringing it. This is an
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  Speaker 3: amazing season. Atlanta is back in his glory days, and
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  Speaker 3: this is something that I want to make sure the
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  Speaker 3: audience knows. We're here to celebrate it. Especially we can
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  Speaker 3: get into the continuation of Porsche versus Kelly at Fatrius House.
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  Speaker 3: Dustin your thoughts on it, Kelly, come get your batty chain,
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  Speaker 3: your w W E del I hold y'all Porsche who
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  Speaker 3: and this is no shade to look y'all know I
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  Speaker 3: love all the girls.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Claudia, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: This disclaimer every show. Jesus por.
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  Speaker 3: Portie is the face of the show, and Porsche would
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  Speaker 3: even acknowledge that the show works best when each housewife
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  Speaker 3: is able to activate the other.
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  Speaker 2: Nelly activated Porsche, and Porsche was.
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  Speaker 3: Stellar in her response, and Kelly was even stellar in
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  Speaker 3: her reaction, And that's why it made a great scene
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  Speaker 3: because no shade to y'all. Last season, I felt like
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  Speaker 3: y'all were watching TV and y'all were skilled of Porsche
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  Speaker 3: and this is no shade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what trip was it? They went on desk in
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  Speaker 2: the first trip.
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  Speaker 4: In season sixteen they want to.
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  Speaker 2: Nash Bill and Porscha came down late and said up.
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  Speaker 3: They hit the table and all the girl was like,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, y'all don't want to smoke
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  Speaker 3: a Porsche really?
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  Speaker 2: So I like the fact that these girls are like
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  Speaker 2: fuck it. That's why I.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciation me being who she wants on shade room. I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate Kelly like fuck this, and Porscha I'm sure appreciates
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  Speaker 3: it because it's all for the betterment of the fucking
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  Speaker 3: come ten out of a ten episode, Go ahead, Dustin.
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  Speaker 8: One hundred percent agree. And we need people that don't
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  Speaker 8: give a fuck about being honest and their express emotions.
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  Speaker 8: And the reason that these recent fights have been so good,
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  Speaker 8: and these recent moments of conflict have been so.
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  Speaker 4: Good is because they've been natural. Well, you didn't. You
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  Speaker 4: didn't see.
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  Speaker 8: Kelly immediately lash out at Porsche the first time she
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  Speaker 8: did something to piss her off, Nor did you see
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  Speaker 8: Porsche immediately lash out Kelly the first time she did
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  Speaker 8: something to piss her off. They made it through that
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  Speaker 8: conversation that that that were over over tea where Porsche
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  Speaker 8: accused and I mean literal, I'm not saying it like tea.
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying like you know, actually, when they were drinking
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  Speaker 8: tea and she accused Kelly of sleeping with the married man.
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  Speaker 4: That built steam.
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  Speaker 8: Along the storyline as it as the story progressed, so
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  Speaker 8: did the energy behind that accusation. A lot of residual
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  Speaker 8: feelings came forward, a lot of conversations that happened that
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  Speaker 8: made that blow up make sense. And it wasn't nobody
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  Speaker 8: just trying to do anything to have a fucking interesting
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  Speaker 8: scene on the reality show. It was the culmination of
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  Speaker 8: some very real emotions and that's why it was so
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  Speaker 8: good for us to watch. So I enjoyed it. I'm
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  Speaker 8: glad Kelly ain't scared of Porsche. I'm glad Porscha knows
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  Speaker 8: how to play the game within the rains as good
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  Speaker 8: as she can. You know what I'm saying, As long
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  Speaker 8: as Porscha don't click completely out and start punching motherfuckers,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, play the game.
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  Speaker 4: I loved that. I love that, and I'm even happy
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  Speaker 4: she did that cause she's being disrespectfuless. Fuck, I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 4: But Mike was on.
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  Speaker 8: But you know what I'm saying. I just I thought
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  Speaker 8: it was great housewife. That's what I thought it was.
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  Speaker 8: They were being incredible housewives. I thought it was good.
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  Speaker 5: It's good because, like, honestly, like last season, we had
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  Speaker 5: some moments, but it felt disjointed. It felt it definitely
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  Speaker 5: felt like it was very dark. And this year the
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: two camps does remind me of Season seven. With the
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: two camps. There's like two separate camps Tall small than
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Tall Team Pretty and the other team and then this situation.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: It does feel like that. But I liked that there's
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: more than one person willing to step up to the
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: play and not afraid of the big dog, you know
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: what I mean, because that's whack when it's one person
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: and anybody else is like whatever you like, we don't
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: need that. Like there's several people who can hop in
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: and no one's sitting there just you know, earning it,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: just just collecting and check they are all earning their money.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: I will say I did kind of catch a lie.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I think the Kelly Portie Gates with the married man gates. Okay,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: first it was a married man she met on a
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: plane going to the BET Awards. Right then it was
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: a Nigerian and it's a pastor. So is it a
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Nigerian pastor that I went to the BET Awards.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: That's what I came up with, which sounds plausible to me.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: I know, I know a couple of those.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: A Nigerian pastor, Claudia.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: We're not doing a list, you're.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Pastor.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Well, Kelly says, she saw y'all just fast to stop.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: I feel like, because okay, I gave y'all te you
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: that there was a man that both Porscha and Kelly knew.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I'm not. I don't. I don't know if Kelly affected
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: with him, but I just say they were. They was
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: hanging right. There was already gonna be a thing if
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: you both talked to the same dude at some point
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the same time, different times, It's already gonna be a thing.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: So then it's like, let's have a fight. You I'm
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: always been accused of being with a married man. You're
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: with the married man too, and then the whole I
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know if I believe that. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: want to. I can't wait for the reading and hopefully
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: it comes out who it is.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Oh one hundred person coming out.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: It has to.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: And so a married Nigerian pastor that went to the
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: bt Wards who happened to be Phasia's clients, get the
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: fuck out of here. That's that is a lie. That
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: is a scheme that Todd in Faedra knock it off, y'all,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: and then and then no, you can tell from the body,
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Ain't that right?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: That's how people like okay okay, let's okay, okay, okay, Claudia.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: The reason why I believe is true is because then
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: you know this work in the porch. The reason why
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm giving Kelly her tense is because I love anybody,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like you said earlier, who can activate the queen bee
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: of the show.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, Porsche lost.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It and I saw because you know, I'm bodyguard, so
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I saw bones like this is where a certain dolation.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: You gotta like grab her like you know, right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: It's hel real.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: When she looked at Pedra and this is how I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: took it. And y'all tell me if y'all got it
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: this way too. Her looking at Phedra was for you, Claudia, right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and the rest of.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: The people who may not believe the story is true.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And what I got from that when she looked at
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Phaedra and said, and you know it's true, it's because
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Fedra knows this person. It is somebody that either Faedra
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: told Porscha about or they definitely had conversation about it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And if you look at Faedia's body language, and you
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: again know how Fedra is when you when she's at work.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Pedra looked down and said.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: But she's also a liar.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Was supposed made to believe able.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, she's also a liar. You have a track record. Here,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I go by track records. Here, I go by Yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I just go by track workers. How could we like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I just feel like it was like throwing the holy
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: what someone or married man thing like I need a
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: receipt And I'm sorry, when you're that angry, I don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: see how you would have restraint to not just blurt
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: that ship out in the moment. Okay again, Okay, I'm
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: lying here.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: It is because you know you're about to ruin somebody
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: else's marriage.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: On Alley, she doesn't have self control.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But she has self control. When she didn't throw Pa
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: under the bus season nine with the Whole she.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Show self control.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Several times she has displayed self control.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But that's why listen, and maybe I'm the only one.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: That's why for me the moment, we can all agree, Okay,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: can we all agree Porsche had a little black moment
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: right beecause I hear you, Because.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: You know I have the team, I'm trying to keep
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: a cute bitch like, that's what it felt like.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: So what I'm thinking, Claudia is because we know Portia
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: had a BLACKO moment, her looking at Phedra saying, you
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: know it's true because to me, to me, she wanted
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Phedra to be a co sign.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm not I'm not lying, and you know
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not lying.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Because this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: There's no way that we live in a world right
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: where Phaedra parks, you know, dealt with the repercussions of
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: what she did in season nine and came back to
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: season seventeen to do it all over again. And that
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: was eerily reminiscent of that Hawaii dinner okay from season
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: nine when Candy was losing it because she was so
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: frustrated by the absurdity of the lies that were being
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: you know, thrown her way. So there is no motherfucking
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: way that Faedra is willing to do all that over again.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: But it sure seems the same.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: And what the nodding and the eagerness to move past
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: the subject matter, what that message to me was collusion.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: It seemed like she's in on it with Porsche. As
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: far as whatever that story is connected to Kelly, Phaedra
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: may have told portion of it and then Portion made
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: up the part about the friend and all that it
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: could be anything with those two, because we've already seen
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: it before, right, And I'm not I'm just saying as
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: far as the root of that story, we don't know
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Faedra's connection to it, and it literally could be anything.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So I definitely think it means something.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: I have a question, what about the party? This is something.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: The two things have been bothering me. The first thing
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: is we are all well. I was surprised when we
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: found out out how close the small Stuf gotten to Phaedra.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: And I think there was like a Judas thing that
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: happened at that party where it almost felt like to
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Carlos's point a little bit to Claude's point as well,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Porscha was about to black out. And there's the thing
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I did. I'm about to blackout. I look at my
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: friend like, YO, catch me, like co sign, did I'm
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: not crazy? Before I snap? Right? I do believe she
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: did that. I also believe that Phaeder as the host, though,
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: used that moment of being a good host to endear
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: herself to the Smalls. And now we've seen ever since
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: that dinner, it's almost like damage control. To Dustin's point,
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: when she realized that Porsche might snap at any point
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: and spill the tea that involves me. Now, let me
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: start being nicer to the Smalls. So if it ever
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: comes out, I've already endeared myself. She has been much
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: nicer to them since Porsia's mask almost came off. Co
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: conspirator who's trying to cover herr ass preemptively like a lawyer.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Like we almost had a slip up at my little party.
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Let me keep it cuter with the Smalls in case
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: my co conspirator throws me under the bus. I've already
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: endeared myself. I think that Phaedra being close to the
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Smalls is showing that there was a conversation between her
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: and Portie that that Porsche almost dropped, and like, you
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: become myself. So if if Portia says my name, everybody
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: loves me so much, advis me favor preemptively, I think
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: that's some snake ass shit. To Claudia's point, I don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: think Pada's changed enough. I do think she doesn't want
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: another scandal like Dustin mentioned, But I think to Claudia's point,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: I think she's still being conniving and one thing that's
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: slightly off topic, and this has nothing to do with
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: what we just talked about Shemiah. I'm gonna look into
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: the camera and I want to say this, if you
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: ever come on the show, I will say this to
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: your face as a very attractive, dark skinned black woman
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: who understands the language that is used as a dog
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: whistle to black women to demean them. You making jokes
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: about Sasquash, bigfoot, the girl with the short ponytail, those
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: are all dog whistles for calling black women ugly and masculine.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna ask you to find other ways to
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: be shady because it's making me uncomfortable. There's an anti
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: blackness in the way that she's speaking that is becoming
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: a thing. It's all the things that dark skin girls
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: here in the playground, and there's a cheapness to it
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: that I that I'm getting tired of you relying on
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: find something other than you big, big black women existing,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: they're still feminine. You parstantly trying to act like Angela
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: being a bit not being tiny, makes her less feminine.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: It's making me nervous as an academic. It's making me
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: nervous that you're leaning so much on that so not
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: too much.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I think angel is one of the most feminine people
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: on the show with her. So I need you all
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: to stop doing that big and.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Black and therefore your masculine coming from you in particular.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: You know better, you know better than that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I don't like that either, but you know, hey, you
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: in the moment, you can't. You ain't these people they
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: just pop off. I listen. I don't care if people
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: think I'm a goddamn hater. That woman is a liar, Okay,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Petra is a liar. She lies about a lot. She
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: don't talk to you about that air mattress and old
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: boy that had the air the Ankle brace on his
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: ankle while she was having sex with him. She wants
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: you to think everything so elevated in the high end.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: She don't talk about Manny Fresh and all the other
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: rappers that I know about, Okay. So I'm just saying
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: all this everything is fake about this woman. So I
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: just feel like whenever there's a and I feel like
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: I feel sometimes I do feel bad for Portie because
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I think sometimes that's her friend and like sometimes they
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: may be maybe conjuring up stores. I don't know, I
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: just setting her up this. There may be something more
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: to this. I'm just saying, am I saying? And no,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: one's beyond messing with a married man.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know Kelly like that. I don't And I
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: don't want you to think I don't think that I'm cappin.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm just saying, consider the source. Yeah, And
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I just the way he just came out of nowhere,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: it just seemed kind of Craig Cray. And how convenient
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: because guess what, we're not talking about anymore about her
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: sitting with marriage and I just feel like that's the
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: thing that's been thrown at you so much, you just
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: threw it on the back and we don't talk about
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: that anymore. Now it's Kelly with a married African Nigerian
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: preacher on the way to the BET Awards. That was
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Fage's client. How convenient that they text them right after
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: they did it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: The source and that's the lie, and the source was
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Faguer again if once again was a bad source. Portia's
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: not lying. Fat was lying the Porsche.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Yet again, and that could be the thing, like and
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: it's not being like I feel like fa and Porsche
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: got this relationship right. They do. And maybe when Porsche
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: looked at it was like, yeah, right, like how much
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: you know you told me? Come on, say say your
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: part that we talked about. And I feel bad if
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Porscha is going if this is a scheme that Phages
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: set up again, that would suck. But let's not act
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: like Tiger's change his spots. I mean the stripes. They
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: don't like. Yeah, she made there's one argument to be made. Well,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: maybe Fader wouldn't do that again because you know she
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: had was put on time out for years, or maybe
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: she's in bolden should I did that ship and they
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: brought me back and they put me on marriage and.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Carlos are speaking to Porsche's believability, not to Fader. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: does a world believable because she believes it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: That's her girl, and Fa' still lying again.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: I think we cracked.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: I hope that's not the case, but that would suck.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Great TV.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: Though I am entertained. I'm enjoying all of it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: It's a beyond excellent season.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I want to get into Shamilla, who met with her
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: family and she's crying about her fertility issues.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You know, listen. As you all know, Shamia is married
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to Gerald.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: They have two daughters, one is of special needs and
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Samia broke down to the scene saying, that's her baby
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: and she has to deal with the reality that she
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: may be her baby for the rest of her life,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: intimating that because she has a special needs child, that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: more than likely she would have to physically take care
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: of her child for the rest of her life.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And it brought me back to Marathon Medicine with doctor.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Steve and Mimi, who have a child with autistic and
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Mimi says something that I think spoke to a lot
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: of parents who have a special needs kid, which is,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: you do have a moment where you mourn the future
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that you had for them, right, And we're seeing Shamia
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: go through that as she's talking to her family, and
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: we're seeing Shamia really have a struggle with giving Gerald
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: what he wants versus what the reality may be. So
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I want to start with you Blue.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: In that in that scene. What were your thoughts on
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the fact that listen is it a is it a?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Is it a warning sign to women who marry well
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: that you do feel that this man has provided me
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: with this amazing life and the one thing he wants
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: for me is to birth his children, and I I'm
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: unable to do that, and because I'm unable to do that,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: is he still owe that although physically shmia just isn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: able to do it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: I think the thing that makes me nervous isn't that
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: he wants to bear children her to bear children, because
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: I think that's a natural thing if you're a traditional
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: man and woman in a heteronormative relationship. What makes me
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: nervous is he very specifically wants her to birth a
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: son after they already had two children, one of which
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: is special needs. That's where it gets a little bit
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: more selfish than just I want to procreate right, And
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: I want to almost ask me a like sister to sister,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: what would happen? What would be the worst case scenario
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: if your daughters were just it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: If you had your daughters and your husband and you
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: told him, I don't want to keep trying for a son,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: because I know you want a son, and I get
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: why you want a son, and it's breaking me to
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: go through this further. Would he still love you on
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: the other side of that, because not like you didn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: give him kids. It's just that you didn't give him
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: a son, you know what I mean? And I'd be
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: curious to hear her speak to how Gerald would hold
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: space for her in that way, because there's something demeaning,
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: even though we really like him about acting like i'moni
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: as good as my uterus, because women go through reproductive
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: things all the time. Also for me, as someone who
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: actually is diagnosed autistic, I didn't self diagnosed. The doctor
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: diagnosed me. I'm as autistic as you can be without
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: needing special assistance. And yet there are still things that I,
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: as an adult, have to do as an autistic I
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: can't drive right. People don't know this. I have to
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: do car service everywhere, not because I'm bougie. My autism
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: means I'm too overstimulated like my executive function that I
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: can't drive. So growing up, I knew my family, my
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Caribbean family, couldn't afford the things that I needed. Part
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: of why I work so hard is it's expensive to
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: be an autistic person having to pay for your own disability, right,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: and so I intentionally made myself kind of self contained
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: where I can pay. I work hard enough where I
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: can pay for all the things that I need. As
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: somebody living with a neurological disability. If my mother had
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: to deal with that, it would have broken her as
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: a single mother. Alisha Miya has support. Alishamiya has help.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: So my heart breaks for her because as an artistic child,
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I understand there were moments watched my mother looking at
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: me and she was like, Oh, I'm worried about you
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: making friends because you can't tell when they're being shady
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: because you can't read nonverbal social cues. I know what
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: it's like to have a parent constantly be concerned, right,
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: And I just feel like, if he is the loving
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: husband we think he is, I hope that he's holding
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: space for her to say that you matter more to
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: me than an on Boord child that we might not
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: be able to have. I am praying that it's his
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: stance and that she's just pulling a pinky and being
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: extra vigilant and not being pressured by him.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense, guys, It makes a lot of
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: sense your thoughts.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I feel bad for women that feel that they have
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to give their man a son when the woman has
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with the sex of the child at all.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: The man has everything to do with the sex of
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: the child. And then when you have a child that's
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: special needs that I mean, I would think that you
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: feel like their risk is greater to have another one
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: and that's a huge burden on you and your child.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: And I just feel bad, like I would hate to
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: feel like them. I'm more like I would. I would
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: want you'd want your man to feel like maybe it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: what you want to do. I'm not women, especially Black women,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: with the high mortality rates in childbirth, especially in this
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: time in America, and they come so much. It's our
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: numbers are like six times out of white women, okay,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: or if not more, And it's like putting again, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: keep forgetting to do the service thing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. The sergus can be a black woman too,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: though it's still a process.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: You're still with the process, and you know, making her
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: feel like I think that's why she maybe acts out sometimes,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. She may not feel all
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: those the fields and all the validation that she needs.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Like if you feel like, damn, if I don't give
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: this man a healthy son, I am still a failure.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I got the husband, I got the big house, we
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: got the wealth, we got this, we got the that
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I'm on a TV show, But I still ain't shit
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: to this man that I love unless I give him
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: the son and that's gonna be way, that's gonna make
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: you kind of trip a little bit, like maybe that's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: why should be popping off sometimes. I don't know, but
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: that's a lot of pressure. And God bless the men
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: that don't put that pressure on that women and they
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: just accept it. But I've seen so many videos online
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: at gender reveals when it's a baby girl and men
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: be getting shown how abusive and not saying Jerald's like this,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: but just and the women sitting there looking sad. Ladies,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: it's not your fault, it's his firm. It's not your fault.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: It's one hundred percent the man that determines the sex
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: of baby Shamil Olivia Lifeastin.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Gerald is getting a bad rap.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: I think that we have not one time on camera
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: seen him pressure as Shamia to have a son.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I think that what we have seen, I think that his.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Ambiguity and him not being so upfront and vocal on
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: camera has led people to reasonably draw their own conclusions
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: about what type of person he is. You know what
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, Samias saying of her my understanding understanding of
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: what I saw on the TV right to me a
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: sense of urgency to have this male child. Comes from
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: the fact that they have had multiple attempts through multiple embryos,
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: that they had to have a son after having two daughters, right,
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: and because they're down to the last male embryo. That's
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: why she has so much anxiety around this particular baby,
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: making it all the way through gestation, you know what
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: I'm saying.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: And being born. That's it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: We haven't seen her now one time say Gerald, is
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: you know on my ass about a boy boy boy
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: boy boy. No, I think it's just as much of
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: a request of one of my friends. One of my
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: best friends, right, has two daughters. Her daughter was seven
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: years old. We were forty three, and she had a
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: miracle baby. Her and her husband had a ramp just
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: she just got pregnant, had a baby boy. They were
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: so excited because they finally had a son. You know
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying, after having two daughters. It didn't mean
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: that there was this pressure to have it, you know
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying. I just think people are kind of
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: jumping to conclusions when it comes to jailed and it's
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: wanting the boy shit. And I've seen Shamil on camera
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: say this is our last man embryos I really want
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: this one to be successful. We've had multiple failed transfers.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: I think it's more so on that, you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Know what I mean, internalized and not him putting on pressure.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I do, I do, I do.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: One damn time they one damn time him have any
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: conversation with her that was.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: About.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: I want to hear him answer the question. I want
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to hear her answer the question, what would Erald say
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: if you said I can't do this and Carlos and uh, Claudia,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: we're my thing?
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Is?
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: I want someone to ask her and I want to
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: sincerely listen to her answer because it's such a pink
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: elephant for me now because of the pressure that seems
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: to be Is it internalized pressure? Is it coming from
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: him off camera because you don't talk on camera? Where
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: is it coming from?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm curious if this Let's have a real conversation.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Sometimes and I'm with I'm with Dustin on this because
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Jerald does. Because Gerald refuses to be on camera and talk. Unfortunately,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: we are let up to our own device.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: What we're what we believe about him.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: They what Shamia says right to me, A constant emotional
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: reactions to it lets me to believe that there could
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: have been a conversation before they got married that stated
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I want this, you'll get this right. I do believe
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: that because Jill has no kids, and because girl Jie
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: has no kids, that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: He already had previous children. Oh, he has no.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Kids, he has kids, got two kids.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: No I'm talking about I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I mean kids.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: No, that's not me. That's a mean. Gerald has no
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: kids prior to Shamia. That's what I have to say.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So that's my clarification.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Gerald doesn't have a son prior to Shamia or with Shamia.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I believe that Gerald, who is today sixty years old.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I do believe that Gerald made a request, whether it's
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: be a paperwork or verbal to Shamia that I want
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: kids and I want a son particularly, and I believe
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that Shamiah feels, in my opinion, if I don't give
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: this man a son, I have failed my end of
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the bargain and I could be divorced. He can find
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: someone younger to give him what he wants.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: Back up, Smia has stated multiple times in multiple interviews
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: that were her and Gerald plan their family, they wanted
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: to have two girls and two boys. Yes, she said that,
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: like that's what when they designed their family right, they
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: want to have two boys and two girls. They had
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: two girls. They've tried to have boys, they haven't been successful.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: I don't think it goes any further than that. When
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: it comes to her disappointment, her her sense of urgency
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: to fulfill that plan. I think that is just as
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: simple as that. I don't see Gerald as this menacing
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: horns out his head, red pupil person who is saying
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: to her when the lights, when the cameras go off
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: at home, you bit, you better have my son.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Get yes, y'all. I don't think that's.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: I believe this.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I believe if Shamiah had two boys and could not
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: produce two girls, you'll be fine.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: I think with that I am one hundred percent. Here's
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: the thing, too, can we be culturally and a rich
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: older African man, because culturally it's a cultural expectation. It
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: might it might be Gerald could be Gerald's mama right
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: culturally speak bloodline. Yeah, there's a thing culturally about the bloodline.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: And if you're a rich man who's done all the things,
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: a son is almost like the liking Oh you know.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: What I mean?
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: You get it, I get it, and you're right all right,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I get that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Here's the thing too, though, I think I don't think
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: he's abusive. I don't think there's any iteration with.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I think no, no, no, and no one's saying that
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: disappointment though.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Can we be honest that you can still disappoint a
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: kind man in a way that feels like pressure. Yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: that's what I'm wondering, Like, is he just like so
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: heartbroken that she's crestfallen that I'm gonna break this man's
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: heart and I love him.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: I think that, and thank you. See, this is why
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: you need your friends. That is exactly what I think
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: it is.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: It's good. That is exactly what I think it is.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: I don't think that Gerald is lambasting her and ridiculing
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: her for not being able to deliver a son for him.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: I think that he is doting and a loving father
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: to their daughters. We see him be hands on with
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: their daughter who has special needs. Bless her little heart,
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. We see him be a
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: good father to them. What's wrong with him saying I
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: also do want a son, and if I don't have one,
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: maybe I'll be a little disappointed. I don't ever think
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: it's fair to pressure a woman in no kind of
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: way when it comes to childbirth, kids, pregnancy, any of
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: the shit that is all yours as a woman. You
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, It's never fair to put pressure
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: on that. But I also don't think that him saying
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: he wants a son is him intentionally harmfully harmfully you
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, trying to put pressure on her.
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: I just don't see that in his care character based
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: on what we've seen so far from him.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, we don't get to see too much about a
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: character because he refuses the show on the show, so
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: you'd have.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: A character to go off o aside from him being
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: a good.
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: Daddy Errold come on line a bitch so y'all can
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: not call, but so they can call him a bitch.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: Say he in the women's business and why why he
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: wanted to be on camera now he's a soft, gentle bitch.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: That's what they're going to say about about Carold.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's I think I don't think Tom
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: is an immensely abusive relationship. I don't think I do
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: not think that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: But not that you said.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: But when you love someone and you are locked in
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: you know when the smallest thing disappoints them. Yeah, you
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: feel like you disappointed them. It don't have to be
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: no big gesture. It's a small thing going to bed
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: and turning his back to you that one night. Maybe
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: it's on his mind. Damn, I may never get a
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: little things like that, maybe little that feels huge to
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: you when it's from the person you love, the smallest thing.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: The look of disappointment in his eyes when it's it's
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: the girl and he's like, oh, you know what I'm
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: saying Like that don't mean like bitch, you give him
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: my son, but it's it's enough. She feels it when
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: you're locked in with someone. You know, you y'all, we've
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: all been in a relationship. He's not wrong for.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not being combative. I'm just literally he is not
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: wrong for it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, like, I feel like Trimda is
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: under a tremendous amount of pressure. I think that's why
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: I give her a little bit more grace on this show,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: because outside of the bullsh you gotta deal with these
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: girls over lunch and this, that and the other. Right,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: she also gotta deal with what she's dealing with at
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: home the man, she scored big, she hit the lot
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: up with the guy, and she she probably feels a
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: little inadequate, like I can't give him the thing he wants.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: And no, he's not berating her, but you know, disappointment
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: in your man's eyes when the embry doesn't take or
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: it does take, and guess what, it's another girl, But.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: Claudia, he's not wrong, but he can be a little
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: bit selfish. And here's the thing about the word selfish.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: Selfish doesn't have to imply malice. You can be benignly
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: selfish if I was dating him. Because here's the thing
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: about Dustin, if you were a straight man and you
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: and Gerald's place, I could see you, Dustin saying, let's
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: call it. I see what it's taking out on you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: I would have loved to have a son, but you
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: matter more. The light in your eyes has gone out,
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: the joy in your eyes. I didn't intend to pressure you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: I want to call it. Let's stop, so we can
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: go and love our baby girls and another life baby right.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: Absence of that is an unspoken pressure to a woman.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: We also got to understand he's not jeering, right, yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Kenyon's key, Yeah, Kenya Kenyan.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's an African, so I also think culturally, listen, Matthew.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: Sound like like Porsia Awards.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: He's I do believe we're gonna move on. I will
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: say this.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I strongly believe that it is very important for Gerald's bloodline.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Uncle is male offspring, and I will give Gerald this.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's stella that Gerald said, I'm aware that
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: this is hard on your body, and that's why I'm
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: okay with this surrogacy route. So I do want to
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I do listen, Gerald loves Shemiah. Gerald married for the
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know for fact. Gerald married Tomia in his fifties,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: so clearly he loves her because he decided in his
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: fifties to get married right.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And that's why for me, I just think.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: In my perspective, if Shemiah would have given him two sons,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I think Gerald been like, I'm fine, let's move on,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and and that I think.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I think for.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Gerald's bloodline, it's very important for him to have a
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: son to carry on the lineage.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I get that when.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Those girls get married, the last name is gone.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I get that, let's be real here, Like a lot
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: of times, the woman gets to blame and the old eggs.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: That's some sixty year old sperm, y'all. And lately studies
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: have been coming out saying that a lot of times
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: we put it on the age of the women's well,
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: we're born with our eggs, okay, the amount of eggs
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: were about to have a lot of times, like people
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: like trying to write, oh man, can I have babies
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: in any year? Sometimes the quality is a little struggling there.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: Milk now milk, you know, asbestist.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: And thanks to racism, we're scared to go to the
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: fucking doctor.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good reasons.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: So there's that piece too. So you're absolutely right.
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: There is a huge portion of this that belongs when
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: when you're speaking about infertility overall, a huge portion of
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: that is attributed to male infertility, and it's something that
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: men are ashamed of, afraid of confronting or discovering or
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: being aware of all those things.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: Genetically walked up that they blame women all the time
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: because it's not just about an egg or a woman's
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: warm or ability to get pregnant.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of times your ass can't get her pregnant.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: One of my one of my.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Girls was her and her Man was struggling for a
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: long time to get pregnant, and he was always some
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: southern guy who was always like kind of making your egg.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Come to find out when they had testing done, it
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: was he had low quality sperm.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Damn is hurtful.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Jesus, Yeah, that's what himl l Q. Get your ass
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: in here, l Q. You know, good Motheronia.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: You guys like.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: The view though that segment for like we were on
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: the view.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: That was good.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: That was good.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: That was that was a that was a great segment,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: speaking of making sure that we hear women's voices.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Juicer Dora had a meeting Carlos.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: That segment was so bad. All the messy queens, Well,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: you're a big back.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Whale and you'd be sucking the hair like Drew Ben
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: looking actually beautiful.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: People saying they spin off with Drew and her.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I that I am bad.
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: Y'all can so y'all cannot watch it like y'all did
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: Candy in the Gang in Summer House and art this. Vinard,
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: shut the fuck up.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I want to spin off this.
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: We got down the own and watch Bell Collective Birmingham,
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: which has been delivering.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: We got to beg you to keep up with all
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: the other motherfucking shows. Shut the fuck up. I don't
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: want to hear ship about.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: No y'all don't even like the guy that y'all don't
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: even want Drew on the show. Well you you want
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: to spin off of her, of the other thing. I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: so tired of that ship. Just say you like the
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: fucking scene, because that's what you mean. It was a
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: good scene.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: It will say that I feel attacked.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: I like that scene.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: You on the same side. But I'm just saying, like
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: some other motherfuckers like just say you like.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: To see listening to woman's voices, woman talking, Claudia or
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Jordan likes.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Out.
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: I'm sick of these motherfuckers, man, I'm thick of these
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: non supporting ask niggas, and get your tickets to my
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: motherfucking comedy show while we're here, while we got the
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: pin in it Dustin Ross Live dot com.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: Ross, I love it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I will say, Samia, let me tell you something. We'll
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: get We'll get into her team in a minute. You
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: me and me, Drew, Drew start, Drew, Drew, We'll get
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: to your your your team in a minute.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Drew. Whatever you do, keep keep your glam squad. You
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: look so good in the scene, Drew.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: The whole season, She's whole season, even even even a
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: drus Reki party. That's lick back lates Prime. Well, Drew,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about your team in a second. Keep Freedom
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: on the beat.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: He beats your face. You look beautiful and tech. Freedom,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I would get to you. Sec I love. Freedom also
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: used to do Nini's makeup.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Freedom is he's a key key uh, but he's he's
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: very good.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: He knew because she didn't like that he's not new.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: So like like it was in the scene, he Freedom,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I gotta tough of the panel.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: What happened Freedom? Okay, Freedom, don't get mad.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Freedom did go on social media two years ago, right, Dustin.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about this. You putting me on
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: to brother.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: He accused Drew of not paying that's why she said. Okay,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that's Freedom.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: So when I interviewed Drew last season, I said, wow.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Your face look good. Who beat your face? She said, Freedom?
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I said, did you pay him?
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: This time?
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: She said called Freedom and Freedom said she paid me.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: So that's why they said Freedom.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Freedom be in and out of the of.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: The Okay, I did not expect that scene to even happen.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was getting into. I will
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: say this tens across the board. That scene was so good, Claudia,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: don't listen to dust it take it away.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Would you like to see a spin off of.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: I'm There now?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Claudia will watch it. That's the difference, he said.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: It would just be Claudia saying she wanted to watch
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: it with my adh G and Tourette.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: You know that I to watch these episodes Blue. Yes,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: I do, Blu ship.
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: Damn, Claudia, Claudia, you cannot do that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: All the time. Is not to rest, just a nigga.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: What is going on?
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: And baby, I'm still waiting on that motherfucker from the baptist,
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm talking about, throwing that the one
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: that was in the audience still his mother, the way
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: I would have stepped on his foot had I been
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: at that table next to him.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Next thing to her was a squeal.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: And then in the mossy amongst her team and the
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: one guy was like her wigs be lifting.
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: And then and then it was like she's been looking
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: so good to which is crazy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, but listen, that's my girl. There's been a couple
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: of times was hot, but the best of us and
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: that's my girl. I'm just saying. But I was here
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: for the shape because listen, everybody have an off day
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: and I was like, what tell us when, like, you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I was, you know, we're cool. It's all good, ain't
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: no hate. But it was kind of interesting to see
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: the dynamic of a team because you could tell a
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: lot of them don't rock with each other. That that
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: is that's why you do your personal That was interesting.
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: That's how you add personal story to the show. You
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: have interesting ship going on.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then she got upset, she got emotional because
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: they could tell it was like stressing her out. And
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: then that's a lot of people are manage twenty people.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: The why does Juice to do only twenty people?
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Well, she's got a music career and she's got a
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: reality her career and she's doing so I get a
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: hair makeup publicist. Uh huh, consistent, Uh huh.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I was a clipper. She had a tonyail clipper up there.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Who else.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Orangecker, she had druse door respectfully, yon Say might need sixteen,
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: do not need twenty people.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Latasha Scott had a calvary. Remember when they was arguing
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: about all the people Latasha Scott, Latasha Scott remember.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Calls the second all these people.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Yea about to come for my cousin, right in my face,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: like I'm not sitting here.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: You can your cousin too, not me.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: I said, what Day said?
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: And then you said we all have bad days. That's
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: a co sign, Claudia. You can't says we all have
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: bad days.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: Every one of us have had a bad day.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: I'm not.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I used to spray my hair, so I had bad days.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I remember.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: The next a sexy though, does.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: It like the American apparel days?
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: And we love you for you are living your truth.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: It's nice, Thank you all.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: We would love to see more of Drew. The double
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: stuff Oreo. We got fired. It was messy, tired.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: I liked him. He needs to be with us.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: The bet Awards Double stuff Oreo. And imagine somebody fact
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: got fired. The work would call it.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: You know you will blue, you will not put me
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: in this box as a fashion double. They called him
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: that I know he was talking about and then he
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: wasn't seen. You tried it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: He was black and white, so it didn't help.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: You know, he had white and black on like an oreo.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: So that's the only reason I didn't not the size,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: it was the coloring.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: I just worked here, be who.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: You are, legal not illegal.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Note legal legal.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I want to get into.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, So came Michelle, Cynthia, Porscha, and Pinky met up.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Cynthia and Pinky decided to a camis ship and port
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: together because you know, they want to make sure that
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: they are able to be friends.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, Dustin, what were your thoughts on this meet up?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Because I listen when came and show me the comment
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: when she was leaving Phaedra's reiki party towards the end
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: of the last thing they shown was Michelle saying she
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: don't run Atlanta to me this and there's nothing wrong
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: with this. I think that came and shell portion of
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: what I'm seeing in the scene. I just got the
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: battle of the Queen Bitch of Atlanta and and Kay
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Michelle feeling like I'm not about.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: To like kiss the ring.
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: And then and as a person who made that point
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: last week, I want to say I was right. Okay,
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: kissed my mother fucking ass because I knew what the
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: fuck I was talking about.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: A second of all good for the show, I don't.
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: Although I would never position myself in that way on
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: the show, It's going to make for an exciting show
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: because even in that table, even at that sit down,
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: even as as pleasant and peaceful of a tone, as
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: Cynthia has said in that conversation with her words, Pinky's humor,
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: all the things that those women did to create an
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: environment for resolution and for peace kme Michelle was resistant the.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Face that she was, Okay, all of that shit. You
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We know what that means. We're black.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: We can read that body language and that countenance.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: We know what that means, Kam and Schelle is not
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: interested and never was interested in being friends with Porsche
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: ever came.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Michelle wanted to come into this show and.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Battle for the top dog spot, which it's sad because
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: it really ain't even that type of show. This is
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: a show where in the ensemble cast, everybody shines in
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: their own way and that and that came to Shelle
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: feels like she has to position herself with these other women.
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: That's her supportinate but that's what her behavior is suggesting
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: for sure. So let's bring it on.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: It's almost giving Tiffany and Stormy a little bit right,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of bits, and I hate that there was
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: a time where I was like, came to sell is
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: a star and you know what, I'm gonna say, it
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: was for that one episode because a little bit exhausting.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Ever since, honestly, I have to go ahead and say that,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: I listen, I'm fair, I'm gonna give it up. I'm
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: gonna say when I was, you know, hey, I was,
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: and gonna.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Get second She's gonna get second chair wrong.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Wrong Black women never, they were always accused of never
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: saying we're wrong or we're sorry. But first she was
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: got a good episode. But yeah, I feel like she's
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: kind of a putting ten on twenty and y'all I'm
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: putting out a T shirt and everything. She exaggerates a lot,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: and I think sometimes she may see things. She's one thing.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: When you're like good at catching shade, sometimes you catch
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: like it's overly sometimes like sometimes that was everything. Ain't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: shade everything anything. And yeah, I don't know, it was
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: gitting a little exhausting. It's a little epiphany about a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: little bit time. I'm a little bit tired, I'm exhausted,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: but I could not be drunk right now. Oh, I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: don't know iron juice, no momented grape from the Valley
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: of Moscato or.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: I saw green so I thought you and Carls were
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: sharing members last it's really oh oh okay, so that's wine,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: my bad. Oh that explains a lot about tonight. Okay,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: double stuff that eph my adhd is kicking right now.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: Every time that's the smokes I get contact. What is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: that sympathy pain?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: So let's see.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: It's actually working. My epiphany about Porsche actually is that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: Kelly is the foe to Porsche. That Porsche expected Ca
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Michelle to be as a friend to her this season.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: Porsche thought the big wow was gonna be her and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: k Michelle being friends, almost like a Nini you know
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: what I mean. There was a moment where am I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: making us up? Well, we're por and Nina friendly at
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: some point.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I remember Porsche was gleeful when her and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: Nini were friends from what I remember, because it was like, yo,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: we're both in the same page, we both are clocked
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: into to use Carls's language, we're both here to do
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: a job, right.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: And I think she thought because of and when we
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: all thought because of Michelle's cachet and her resume and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: her talent, her history. She thought, I'm excited that cay
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: Michelle is on and sincerely wanted to be her friend.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: She thought she was gonna be a big sis. Like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: how much we call it? Cynthia said it, Pinky said it,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: everybody echoed our sentiments. No, we all sincerely think Porscha
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: wanted to be your friend instead of Porsche being Porsia
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: being friends with kay Michelle. Now she has one of them.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: Was trying to calld up her leggvery five minutes right,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: So I think Porscha wasn't ready for it being her
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: versus Kelly because she thought it was gonna be me
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: and ky Michelle against the world like me and Nini.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: I think there is some sincere fatigue and disappointment. It's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: almost like, damn, I really wanted it to be us.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: We could have had it all right, but you rather
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: make it hard right very much, Lauren Hill. I also
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: think there was a funny moment where I think Kate
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: Michelle was pretending to joke, but I don't think she
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: was joking. She said, I'm just playing nice because she
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: had big bitch and I don't want all that I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: do think that she saw Kelly looking up at Porsche
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: screaming for her life and said, you know what, Yeah,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: I don't really need that in my life right now.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: I think watching Kelly trying to fight upwards with Porsche,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: She's like, that's a big bitch, and me and Kelly
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: about the same size. I'm gonna just choose peace for
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks to get my weight up until
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: I can get my Twitter fingers, so can Michelle. Number one,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna judge you for staying safe. Okay, you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: can't fight. Stay safe. Number two, Porscha really didn't want
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: to be your friend. You really did fumble what could
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: have been one of the greatest ally ships in real
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: hop of Atlanta history. And I do believe that Porsche
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: was one hundred percent correct. And she said, deep down
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: under all that vanity and all that Hubris came Michelle
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: knows she fumbled what could have been a really great
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: storyline for her. She fumbled it.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: She thinks the interview, Sorry, there's a guy that just
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: dropped one hundred dollars in the super chat and he
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: says son about he's a CFO. We might need to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: bring him.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: But He's like, I don't care what he said, but
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: she dropped one hundred.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Dollars I'm saying. And also, what about the interview that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Kim Schell's ex nos dropped and he said that Cami
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: Schell was lying. Y'all saw that lying? No, what do
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: y'all think about that?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Shut it up in case those who don't know.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, So the guy that came Michelle was on what
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: was that show?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Queen?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: No, that was like the person that you had, the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: ex that you know came Michell was like, Yo, you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: was talking to my ex blah blah blah blahlah. Why
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: don't you let me give a heads up? And port
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: She's like, I only said good things for him. So
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: he went and did an interview. I don't know who
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: did an interview with. I'm not sure interview with, but
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: he said that Kim Michelle was lying.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: About what specifically, I was busy this weekend.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry he was saying, Kay Michelle what he said
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Kim and Shell was lying about the stuff that he
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: went back and told her that Porsche contacting him to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: get information.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: So again, and then Cay Michelle been released audio.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: She says she has around twenty something minutes of the audio,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: and she only released twenty four seconds of it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: And why do we give a fuck?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: I don't care about no recorded as this phone, cause
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: is being recorded as recording. I could cave a fuck.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: I don't care about that. That is so beneath this show.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know we care about that shit.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: And then we don't know his motive.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: So I don't know and you know his motive, Claudia.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: He said that he wants to take you out. He
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: is a CFO.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: We have a super chat dustin Blue for one hundred dollars.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a CFO. That means a chief financial officer corporate.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: And next I would as a blue Aully. He said
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: the wrong scene? Who cost me my position? I would
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: not want to film up with my wife if I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: was married. I worked twenty five years to obtain I'm
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: understand Gerald, I'm my audio.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: If you let a brother take you out, Clark, will
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: you go out with n J go South?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: Are you Nigerian?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: I think it means New Jersey.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: Oh you're from New Jerseys. That's trick because it's like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: I want to be New York. Send me a d M.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: Hold on, let me take a picture of your Let
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: me take a picture of.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Your picture, send another super chat with you. You know, then
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you are what you know? Yes, she will
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: want to know. Take the initiative.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Let me you want it? How much do you want it?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: N J?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: N J goes Oh it was NJ goes south.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: He's an eater? What I know? That's right?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Eaters eat a lot of people. Though, I don't want to, like, I.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Don't want to necessarily hear y'all go jerarding him again?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: Now your name, that means that's something you do, right
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: you You're not gonna be like I'm a runner, I'm
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: a track. You only ran one time, that's something you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: do all the time.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: Right by South, he might be Atlanta.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: How you could have moved.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Omi and they was so Disney, niggasmy n J goes south?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: What do you mean? My goot south?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: Speaking of going south? What do we think about the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: allegations that black is broke?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: He's not broke.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's bro Asluly you think.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: That that because Lala Milan I've met her and she's
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: not a liar like you say. Lala Milan said that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: he borrowed twenty five thousand dollars in some change for her.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: She only got about forty three hundred back. And when
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: the Shade room hit her up and said, do you
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: have any statement that you want to release when we
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: you know, tell the world that he owes you about
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: nineteen k. Still, she said, ooh, child the ghetto.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: H I had a millionaire only money, lamla.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: I've had dinner with her. She's very rich. I'm not
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: gonna put car her money, but.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: She's very words. She's I didn't I didn't realize how
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: beautiful she is.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: And she's very smart, Like she's helpful. I sat her
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: with her at a dinner party for somebody's birthday, and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: she will tell you how to get put on. She's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: a very helpful person. She's very healthy. Yeah, so I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: can see her giving somebody twenty five K because they've
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: been friends for years. I don't see her lying about it.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: I don't think she's lying about any of that. But
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: I also think that that their situation.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. First of all, pay her.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: It's like four of them, Hey her, you know what
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: I'm saying. But outside of that, I don't know if
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: he's I don't think he's broke.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: They're saying he targets successful black woom. So if you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: are in Atlanta, just don't let believe him, but don't
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: let him burn the money, right.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Right, protect yourself. And I remember is good Lesbie. Yeah huh.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Tamar is a good friend of his. And I remember
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: she was like at his spot in l A. It
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: was like a big ass college shaking his head.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: The comment, the comment, can I see it? It's a
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: shady comment.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Claudia comment saying that he is, that he's in Atlanta.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: There there go.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: Oh that there is a lot in Atlanta. But I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: know we had a big ass house in l A
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: that was like a you know, like it was. I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: don't I ain't you know, I ain't vouch for nobody.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: By the hookah, by his hooka pions. If the brother
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: going through something, then dammage. Let's y'all buy his hooka pions.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: Support them in black.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: They're great on the live and I would.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Love that if need be, okay, we about first though,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I like her pay her back first.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I love her.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: He's funny.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: So the moment has come for us to discuss the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: scene of the season Angela versus Shmiya. Before we get started,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I want to introduce a new segment.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: In honor of Angela and Shmia sit Down.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: This segment is called rate that read okay?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, rate that read okay?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: And in honor of that, of course, we would like
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: to have Claudia Jordan, who is a staple of a reader,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: not an eater like Go South, but read. Claudia also
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: knows how to read. Hence the episode Puerto Rico. I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: would like for Claudia Jordan to rate the read between
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Angela Sia as Claudia recites the read.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: So, Claudia, your job is to recite the read real quick.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Hold on one second, I have to okay, okay, I'm
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: gonna explaining the game to Dust It Blue and the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: rain Drops.
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  Speaker 3: Claudia Jordan is going to recite the read between Angela
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Shamia and is going to rate it from one to five,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: with five being a master read. At the end, dust
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: and Blue, Well, then let us know who won the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: read down.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna make my bob first, Robert, that's.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: Wait too long, that is not a bob.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Well we go.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: I'm drunk, all right, my hair wasn't long, but my
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: bundles weren't that. I had less money back then, so.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: I have more than jurious bundles. Now look at God,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: won't we do it at the job? Now it works,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: actually works?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, hell right, okay, and Lula, this is your social
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: clip all right. So Claudia Jordan, it is time for
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: you to rate that read. Okay, Angela versus Shmia. Addition,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: take it.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Away, Claudia, give us the read.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Rate it from one to five master read one being
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: obviously a bad reader.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Shamia said, use your discernment to help you buy some houses.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: Mid I'll give that a two point five because okay,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: let's see. Uh okay, I'm sorry, okay, okay. Angel said,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: you don't have your own identity. You're a lap dog
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: in lipstick. And Shamiya said, Drew told you that. I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: will give that a a two because it's recycled a cycle.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: Can't get the five or the four or three because
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: it was kind of said and you only added ellipsic part,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: so I would only give that a two. Okay. Angela
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: says you want an egots get a hit first. That
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: was good because Candy is on her way to getting
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: you egots. So she's in the vicinity on the you
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: know same show, but she's getting a hit. Yeah, Shemia
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: is further away from getting a hit like Drew was
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: next in line first and then came a shows the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: first one then then comes true, so that I would
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: have to give that. I get three three and a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: half three three point y'all think that's fair three point five.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: My only point of contention is that in my house
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: that should be a single card never had was a hit.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: That ship.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: Her the only single I've ever played by her that
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: I've ever known of, so I love it. And she
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: was in co Ed Enroll with Me by co Ed
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: that's a hood classic and the Country so.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: Some House is the ultimate recycled so that should have
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: gotten one because three different episodes.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Are the House is almost like win a case but okay,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: and then Shemia said, don't nobody want to be like Angela,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: where Angela quickly said I'm self made. I never laid
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: on my back to get on my feet. Baby. That
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: was the read of the night. I'm going to give
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: that a five because she responded in real time, you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: think the enemy's words again, Hold on the tuck, Bob.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: And the wordplay of back and feet both being the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: way that she used that was that was the brilliance,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: that that.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: Was great, and Angela continues to stay calm. Again, she
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: who loses control of their emotions and walks away first
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: is the one that loses, okay. And then Shemika firebacks
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: and said, that's why your husband leaves in the morning
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: and doesn't come home till the night. I don't know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: is that true?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: Important?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: Maybe? And then angel said, I see why you leave
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: home and don't come back. And then she did say,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: let's talk about it. What is it? The Falcons are
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: the Hawks, implying many sexual activities with members of both teams.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: Now we know that Shamiah was a cheerleader with the Hawks,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: so that kind of used her own team. I'm mistaken,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: but she would both, Okay, So for Angela to remember
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: that and that to read on the spot, I gotta
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: give that a five because that was like good use
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: of your own intel, okay. And then Shemia said, I'm
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: a great host. And then angel said, why are you
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: sticking around so long? And Shemia says it pays well
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: and Andrew says it don't. It don't and I gotta
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: give that one Angelo, because I heard they get like
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: twenty five or fifty dollars a game, but then they
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: hope to get money with like appearances, so it don't
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: pay well, but there is prestige. But so Angela went
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: that when I got to give that a four. Uh
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: and then also oh and then Samiah did fire back
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: in real time and said, uh, well, you probably should
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: get one of those jobs because that real estate ain't
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: working out for you. And that way, I gotta give
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: Shamia a five for that because it is true. Angela
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: admitted that she the real estate is not working out
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: for so she was able to use again using the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: T in the moment and not stuttering. Gotta give me
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: a five for that. And then Angela said, the men
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: pay well, that was kind of weak. I thought that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: was like a one. I'm like, what does that mean?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: I did? I did? I didn't get this.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: You missed the part because that was actually good friend,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: and I'm gonna tell you why.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Because when Samia was talking about.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: Her hosting gigs working with those professional sports teams, she
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 8: was like, they pay well. She was like, you might
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: have get one. You might as well get on because
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: that real estate ain't paying well. And then Angela was like,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: but the men and pay you well, that's.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: What she was saying.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: I like you with your husband for his money type ship.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: That's really what the real see.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: I he was saying, friend because they're very smart. But
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: because it didn't resonate with me, I felt like it
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: needs to be a little bit more of it was
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: a little more coated, like it's for the fact that
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: was good for the.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: The people that went to school.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: Well more time.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm just here we go.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: Hold on now forget that.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: I was right. See I was right.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: He's got an eat it.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: He just moved to Atlanta.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, so in j South said for two hundred dollars,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: I moved soft for work, not.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: For eating, but for the right woman.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: I can certainly eat Jersey, never trying to be New York.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: They moved to Jersey. They can so when they get on,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: not the other way around. But we got mad love
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: for New York.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna change my rating to give it a five
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: because like Dustin just brought my attention, and plus what
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: he just did right now, the men do pay well,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: so I know.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: We ain't gonta reach it out for the night.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: Dam it's Partia Jordan seven at a.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: I've never seen that color on on YouTube.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying, Like, that's why let this be
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: a lesson. People do what they want to do. You
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: know what I'm saying this is you can have standards
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: for yourself, but you also need to show up in
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: your own way.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: The same way he came.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: To get her Dustin when did we say land the planet?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: He came to how you do it?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: So like okay, earlier he came to get our girl.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: This is what Shemia lost me. She got up and said,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to continue having a conversation with Sasquash
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: and she's like, you're a size twelve and Andre said
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: enough to walk all of you. I think Samia lost
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: point getting up and walking away. M hm, because if
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: you had more in the tank, you want to stay
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: and engaged, because you know, if you've been you've been
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: watched the housewise long enough. That's how you get like
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: legendary status by going back and forth. And this is
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: the second time Angela made people got up. She made
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: Pinky get him and walk away and now Smiya, so
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: What that's let me say something.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: She said, well, Claudia, Smia did so.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Shemia said on her Instagram today that she is saying
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: that the producers told her to get up.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: To leave, okay, and that's possible reason.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: And we don't care. And then.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: You know what, Carlos, she probably mentioned real estate for
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: the fifteenth time that she is getting old, probably said
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: for the fifteen times gonna sell the house, and everybody
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: got tireds in her.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Own So Claudia, who would you crowd? As the read
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to dust? And Claudia shout out to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: the rain drops in the comments who were raining it
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: as you say, who won the readown, Claudia.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Between Shemia and Angela.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: People may think that it was a huge runaway by Angela.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: I thought it wasn't that impressive, Like there was a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: couple of moments here and there. I was like, Okay,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: that's cute, but they were talking over each other, so
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: that lost some of the clarity of it. And some
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: of the reads were like recycled old reads. So I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: can't give it like a ten out of ten. But
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: I'll say Angela slightly won, but to me a loss
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: because she walked away and Angela one because she did
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: the you know that that thing?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: I like that.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Did you like when she said you sleep with sas
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: squash every night?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah? But now because you know why she said that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: when she wasn't around.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: Wait, she left, ye.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Don't you leave and you talk being bad? Like once
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: I left the table is when I got all the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: reads about the Bob. It don't count because you didn't
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: say it to my face. You gotta say to my face.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: I only graduate said to my face. So yeah, but
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Dustin Bross Angela and should be.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: Your thoughts and who Yeah, Angela won, but it was
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: only a one point difference. I think that it was close.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: It wasn't like Shemie ain't no punk, you know what
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: I'm saying. I remember when Shamia rolled faded like some
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: dice at that season nine reunion.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Remember that you're gotter to get a personal get credit
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: card rill. You know she can get fraud.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: You remember all of that shit talking about the same
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: regions and all of that. You know, Yeah, Groupine belly Button,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: Groupine Kenya was laughing, geeking and ship you remember all
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: of that.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Shemia is not a punk, so me too.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: But I'm very thoroughly satisfied with Season seventeen. Shout out
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: to everybody and shout out to our homegirl, Lorraine if
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: you got anyway, Yeah, Angela won, Shamid. It was a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 8: good showing from her. She just got tired.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: Shit.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: She probably wanted some water and the ship. She was
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: ready to go home. She had to check on her kids.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, y'all think Gerald don't want
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: her daughter. She had to go home and check on her,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: so she had things to do, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: But I do think that Shemia didn't go down without
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: a fight. And it wasn't like a brutal you know,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: it wasn't like brutal carnage.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: She did not get be down.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: She did not not at all.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: And I love Shemiah for the wreck. To let the
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 8: record reflect, I love Shemiah. I think she is fine
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: as ship. I love that she's showing off her body.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: I think I can't stop looking at her. I love
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: Samiah Morden mcguanee, okay, and I want her to continue
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: on this show.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I just say that just to be clear.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: I think for me, what is what I agree with
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: the outcome for me though, Angela just came for salmon.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: Schusk Bob and Shmia came to fight, and Angela still won.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: So it's almost like if a bunch of flies keep
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: happening and you ignore them, and then the one time
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: you go like this, to fly hits the wall. Like
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: Angela barely broke a sweat, We're still waiting for her
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: dinner and still one to me, I showed up fully
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: activated and still lost. So for me, it was a
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: marginal win because one of them wasn't even trying. She
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: just wanted to get some salmon.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: I don't like this beef though, because I'm like, why, Like,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: I just I don't like this beef with them?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: Well, did you know Shamia Seclaudy. She said she blames
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: Angela for Here's the thing about Shamia that I won't say.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: Even though I love her, she can be she was
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: a coward in previous seasons, which is why I think
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: she's puffing on her chest so Muchmiya used to complain
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: subtly about Porscha. Maybe we feel bad for her, but
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: then be her bestie in her face, and I think
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: Angela cutting through that and saying your Porscha, Shamia, I
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: don't like the way you move us up. It kind
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: of broke like the facade a little bit, and Shemia
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: is never gonna forgive.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Angela for that one more thing because you're on it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: You're breaking that facade of double talk that she's had
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: for years with Porscha and.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 8: Other Peoplemia also never actually got a redemption arc from
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: the season nine lie. We just saw them back cool
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: on camera, but that never sat down and talked that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: ship out on camera outside of the very limited discussion
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: that they had surrounding it on the season sixteen reunion
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: last year. So to me, Samia still feels the need
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: to be vended. She's still harboring resentment towards I think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: it would be reasonable for me to assume that Shamia
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: is still harboring some resentment towards Porsche.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: For all of that ship. She never.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: Didn't Yeah, and it was like, I didn't mention Porscha.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: How do we get to Portia?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: So, you know, how do you feel about the shave
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: that Angela gave Tomi about her wanting to be Candy?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: I didn't reach. Yeah, I didn't hit. It didn't hit
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: for me.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: I think last year when Shamia was becoming popular, and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: we were saying that she was the reason we did
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: not miss Candy as much as we thought we would.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: I do think it might have gone to her head,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: and Angela likes the clock ship and hold it for later.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's currently true, but I think she
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: watched it happen in real time and it's now bringing.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: Angela is the Shakespeare of this shit at this point
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: as a writer. Even Shemia is really great about being brave,
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  Speaker 6: Angela is skillful. It's two different things that both translate
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: well for different reasons. And there's something about Angela's read
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: even when Dustin talks about it, it's almost like Kendrick
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  Speaker 6: Lamar versus Drake, like she will remember shit that happened
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  Speaker 6: to you five years ago and without breaking the sweat
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  Speaker 6: and ordering Assimi Kabab just mentioned it casually.
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  Speaker 5: I do want to fan Shamida's frustration, and I love Angela.
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  Speaker 5: I think she's my favorite, and I definitely loved Meia too,
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  Speaker 5: like I definitely like. I like them both. So I
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  Speaker 5: was like, ah man because I don't like their beef.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: I don't like I don't like the beef, but I
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: will say that she Shmia did make a good point. Angela,
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  Speaker 5: like I say this, she's like, you know, she's still
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: mad at me about things, but also like she's made
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: up with people like you know, Porsa saying she wanted
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: to sleep with her husband and other issues on the show,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: which would be a bigger violation. And I do like that.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: Angela can be in a fight with someone and they
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: could get things and get ugly. And Angela has been
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: has a unique ability to kind of like get over things.
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  Speaker 5: But I get why why Samia would be like, wait,
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  Speaker 5: other people have done worse stuff to you, Like why
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  Speaker 5: you so mad at me? I do understand, Hey, this
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: is my opinion.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: I know, not refuse your opinion, just the timeline.
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  Speaker 5: Understand why Shamia would feel.
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  Speaker 8: That way the timeline, because remember what Shemia is referring
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: to is when she was outside at the pool and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: portion made that off color remark about Charles Oakley. Yeah,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 8: and Shemiah laughed and Angela, you know, they had words
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 8: about it or whatever, and they never really made up
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 8: for that. But Shemiah laughed because she was mad at
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: Angela from what had happened before, which is where Angela
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: keeps referring to that Shamia resents her for the breakdown
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 8: of her and Porscha's relationship. That's why when Shami and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: Porsche had got back cool last season like that and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: would be in Core, they were sitting out there talking
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: shit about Angela because they both had anger towards her.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: So the story didn't really start there for Shamia to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: be like, I'm confused, why are.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: You getting mad?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying getting over with everybody else
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: is still mad at me. You were laughing at the
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: joke because y'all had beef, so that was not the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: beginning of y'all's problem with each other. Shamia really is
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: a weak excuse. You know what I'm saying, like you're
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: trying to pin it somewhere where.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't even starts.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: That implied that they would fuck my husband.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: I would have foughted personally.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: Then the person that I laughed, there's no way. There's
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: no way I personally, I personally said that they would
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: fuck my husband.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: Me too, now laughed.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: The thing about Porsta that I will give her credit
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: for is that Porstia is being direct and Shamia now
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: is taking on whether it's warnted or not. And I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: can be up for debate. This spct of mentality and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: the thing about Angela, and this is something I relate
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: to her on if not the offensive home directly, you
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: come at me m hm. And for me, I would
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: actually forget portion before I would forgive Shamia because you
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: were upset with me, And then, to Dustin's point at
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: it sauce when somebody else was upset with me, which
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: means you still have this resentment that you're harboring, whereas
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: Porscha and I had a direct conversation squashed that shit
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: and moved on. The person who's lingering is going to
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: annoy me more than the person that I can directly
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: squash it with. Always I see, I see no hypocrisy
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: in that. If Carlos and me and me have a beef,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: and me and Dustin have a beef and Carlos pretends
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: we're cool, but he's laughing with me behind my back
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: with Claudia, but me and Dustin hashed it out and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: it's over. I'm more cool with Dustin and I with Carlos,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: even if Duston said something worse, because you're clear with me.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: That's why, that's why Angela keeps on saying my discernment
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: keeps pinging with you because there's an undercurrent of sneak
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: that you have that Porsia is the enemy. I can
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: see clearly. I respect it more.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: I'm never respecting someone that says that they would my man, period.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: I'm respecting somebody who can squash it.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: Oh never, you can never, I'm never. But she unders
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: says she's a showman, Porscha.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: This is the thing. Porsia is more charming and lovable
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: and gets away with more stuff.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: I think she's just more direct. I don't think we
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: can we can't underplay how.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: She's a She's a better she's a better reality star
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: than she me, and she means learning on the job
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: and shemy has done. Can we all agree with this?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: Shemi is doing a much better job this season than
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: she was last season, and she'll be better next season.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: She was great, I agree, and that's why.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: Is great at reality TV.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Angelo was born a Vet. Though Angela didn't need
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: no warm up, she was born in Vet. So that's
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: a veto respect portion more.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: And that's why for me, I grew with all of
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: you guys about the rundown.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Listen, we have to give Shamir her credit for holding
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: her own against Angela.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: I thought Shemia did a.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Great job holding around like Samy pinky. Now look that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: Angela winds time. Yes, but I agree with Claudia and
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: all you guys. I think Angela won one point over Yeah,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: not a lot, but a little bit, a little bit.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: But we're not gonna like Shmia wasn't great in the readown.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys, And I do think angel was bothered
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: by some of the things that she said about Charles.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: It did look like her face.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Oh that whole thing about he doesn't come home at night.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: And ever since last season, Aedra mate and you windows
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: two that I've known Charles per years, I've never seen
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: Angela in the rooms with Charles, so there has been
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: conversations about Charles being outside. They brought a Charay Whitfield,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: who Charles used to date, so there has been tons
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: of conversation about it. And that's why when Shamia said it,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: I do agree with you.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: If that's my husband, it will always truck a nerve
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: to me. But I think that's why I was funny
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: when she brought it back and said.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: You don't even be at home with your husband, So
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a great read, but I do
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: agree Angela won one point over, but Smia definitely held
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: her own.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: All right before we go, I want to get you
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: be a credit for one thing. When Samia said, your
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: husband can see me outside because he's outside too, I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: think that was stellar.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: She said, my husband be seeing you outside. She's like that, yes,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: because he's outside. We both outside, we see each other.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: To me, that that was really clever.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: That's fine, that's a fine, that's a real five.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: Like he saw me, he was there too, bitch like
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: do the math.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: I can't do what they do with the reunion.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: We about to get a good ass motherfucking reunion this season.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. It's too much on the floor.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: It's multiple stars on the show, which is good. Yeah,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's one queen with minions. It doesn't
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: feel like that. It feels like, hey, someone like it
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: don't have to only be on Portions back. It could
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: be some one episode, someone else can take a lot
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: of the heat. Another episode. It could be Portia. Another
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: episode could be Angela, Like, there's several people that could
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: be that a position. It should not be. Yeah, it
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: should not be just one on the back of one person,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: and I like that. That makes it. That's a quality show. Yeah,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: it's like Jackson five. It's like in Vogue.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: In Vogue had Yes, that's perfect analogy in Vogue.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: Jackson five, know, Randy, I never heard. I don't know
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: what Tito sound like.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: Jermaine still match the hair.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: Rain still in the bathroom with a toothbrush and brown jail.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: Did Hey, he got a couple.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: He got a because that song from Mahogany is the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: ship too?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 10: Okay, anyway, go ahead, so let us know Rain between
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 10: Shania and Angela. All right, Rain, Josh, thank you all
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 10: for coming into Mother than a Live.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: We will see you guys next week, all right, Love
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: your Claudia dust A.
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