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- 0:01543. 2. One all systems go with Josh
- 0:08Applebaum starts now. Hello, and welcome to episode
- 0:16390 of the All Systems Go sports Betting podcast powered by
- 0:21Rhythm. I'm your host, Josh Applebaum.
- 0:28What's going on? Everyone happy Thirsty Thursday.
- 0:31The long wait is over. Wasn't much of A long wait, but
- 0:34we got the NFL back tonight, big Thursday Night Football
- 0:37showdown, the Las Vegas Raiders, the Denver Broncos.
- 0:40I do have two plays on tonight's game.
- 0:42I got to play on the total. I have an opinion on the side
- 0:45and definitely the side is something we got to talk about
- 0:48here. But I got to play on the total
- 0:49with a great rhythm edge. And then also I got a player
- 0:52prop for you. I'm looking at one of the two
- 0:54quarterbacks to go over or under his passing yardage.
- 0:58And I'm also gonna introduce you to a new piece of analytics that
- 1:01we might be able to use with our analysis here.
- 1:05When it comes to player props, we got great rhythm edges for
- 1:08both this the side or the total I should say, and the player
- 1:11prop. But then there's another AI
- 1:13tool, it's called Opta AI. It's now available at vson.com.
- 1:17And of course, if we don't know, I host this pod.
- 1:19I'm an author, I'm an analyst, but I'm also a sports betting
- 1:22analyst for vson.com. So there's this new tool that
- 1:25Vson has added, which pretty much backs up the play on this
- 1:28player prop here for tonight. So a little bit of a short and
- 1:31sweet pod guys, because I do got to run here pretty quick for a
- 1:34doctor's appointment. But I do have two plays for
- 1:37tonight on Thursday Night Football, playing the total and
- 1:39play on a player prop. Now looking back to her last
- 1:42night, nice little 1 and O + 0.95 units.
- 1:46Played that Kent State Ball State Under 47 1/2.
- 1:50Didn't have to sweat too much. It was a 17 to 13 game, which
- 1:53was pretty ugly if you're a football fan or played the over,
- 1:57but it's beautiful if you played the under like we did.
- 1:59Remember that was a contrarian play a little bit elevated are
- 2:02inflated. Also, there was some wind in
- 2:04that game too bad offenses that were at the bottom of the
- 2:06barrel, low conversion on 3rd down pace of play was slow and
- 2:10rhythm had around a 46. Were they also a juice reel
- 2:14sharp mush under? So it's nice to get a little 1
- 2:16and O + 0.95 unit night last night with our Kent State Ball
- 2:20State under. So you can keep it going here.
- 2:22Get a little bit of a hot streak going.
- 2:23Fingers crossed, but let's waste no time and talk about this big
- 2:27Thursday football game. Big matchup here in the AFC
- 2:30West. Vegas and Denver now setting the
- 2:33stage here. 8:15 PM Eastern Time.
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- 2:45I have all these apps, all these different streaming services.
- 2:48Turns out me and my wife are on the same plan.
- 2:50Same family plan, but they're double charging us either I
- 2:53signed up twice or she did, who knows, but luckily she's smart
- 2:56with technology, got me a refund and now we're only paying one
- 3:00payment of 1499 a month for the Prime Video and all that kind of
- 3:03stuff. So double check, make sure
- 3:04you're not getting double charged.
- 3:05Little little PSA today, but anyway, going in this one for
- 3:08tonight. The Raiders two and six.
- 3:10They've lost two straight. Just came up short against the
- 3:12Jags 30 to 29 in overtime last week.
- 3:15Did cover though as a 2 1/2 point home dog.
- 3:18Remember, that was a late addition for the ASG pod on
- 3:21Sunday. On the other hand, the Broncos
- 3:23seven and two flying high. They've won six in a row.
- 3:25Don't remind me. They did beat the Texans 18 to
- 3:2815, one outright as a 1 1/2 point Rd. dog.
- 3:31That was annoying because the Texans there and CJ Stroud got
- 3:34hurt. But anyway, what do we see
- 3:35across the market? Well, almost kind of similar to
- 3:39what we saw on Monday night with the Arizona Cardinals, A gross
- 3:43team that no one believes in yet.
- 3:44The line is moving in their favor because this game opened
- 3:47with the Broncos around a 10 1/2 point home favorite and the
- 3:50public says that line isn't too high.
- 3:52Hey, Denver's going to roll. They're seven and two.
- 3:54Raiders are two and six. They're terrible.
- 3:56Broncos will easily win by, you know, double digits.
- 3:59However, even though you're getting 61% of spread bets at
- 4:02DraftKings, laying it with the Broncos, we've actually seen
- 4:05this number fall toward the Las Vegas Raiders.
- 4:07So those 10 and a halfs are down to 9 1/2, some shops down to
- 4:10nine, couple shops even down to 8 1/2.
- 4:13So we have seen this line move toward Vegas.
- 4:15Even though the public is hammering, Denver tells us smart
- 4:17money here is going Vegas in the points.
- 4:20Now, if we look at some more splits here at DraftKings, 39%
- 4:24bets, but 49% dollars on the spread in favor of Vegas.
- 4:28So a little bit low bets, higher dollars in their favor.
- 4:30And then we look at some system matches here.
- 4:32Primetime dogs, again, I was a analysis by paralysis,
- 4:36overthought and laid off that Arizona Cardinals play because
- 4:40I've been hurt so many times with dogs this year in primetime
- 4:43that I kind of cost myself a win.
- 4:45And again, primetime dogs this year are 16 and 12 against the
- 4:48spread, 57%. They're 157 and 138 ATS, 53%
- 4:54with a 2% ROI since 2020. But if you just isolate the big
- 4:57primetime dogs, the German shepherds, the the Beethoven
- 5:01dogs, the Bernese Mountain dogs, those big dogs getting 6 1/2 or
- 5:05more in primetime, they're six and three against the spread
- 5:07this year, 67%. They're 59 and 41 ATS 59% with a
- 5:1313% ROI since 2020. Now Vegas, of course, would be a
- 5:17divisional dog. So because that divisional dog
- 5:21built in familiarity levels, the playing field benefits the team
- 5:23getting points, we have seen these divisional dogs go 319 and
- 5:27279 against the spread, 53 percent, 3% ROI since 2019.
- 5:32If you isolate Rd. divisional dogs, kind of the ultimate buy
- 5:35low spot, they're 196 and 160 ATS, 55% with a 6% ROI since
- 5:412019. Dogs off a loss playing an
- 5:44opponent off a win. Another buy low sell high play
- 5:46Raiders a match here. They're 24 and 28 TS this year,
- 5:5055% with a 4% ROI this season. Pete Carroll covered last week
- 5:55as a dog. He's been pretty good
- 5:56historically. Well, again, a lot of that times
- 5:58with of course, the Seahawks, but he's the second best dog
- 6:01coach behind or active dog coach behind Mike Tomlin. 54 and 38
- 6:05against the spread 59% with a 14% ROI as a dog in his career.
- 6:10Bill Vinovich lead ref 57% ATS to the road team historically.
- 6:15So again, to me it's Raiders or nothing.
- 6:17It's a decision you guys are going to make.
- 6:19I'm going to lay off because I got a little scared off by
- 6:22there's a lot of systems on short weeks and teams who just
- 6:24went to overtime. So that would kind of be a
- 6:27negative toward the Raiders. But this is clearly a Raiders or
- 6:30nothing play. The reason why I'm not going to
- 6:31play the Raiders, I'm going to lean and root like hell for
- 6:34everybody who's on Raiders in the points is that I like this
- 6:36total more. And again, I don't think you
- 6:38want to force multiple plays, but if there's one play where
- 6:41it's a lean but then another play where everything's lining
- 6:44up perfectly, I'm going to go with the the game or the side or
- 6:47total that I'm more confident. So the play for me is the over.
- 6:50I'm going over 42 1/2 now. It's interesting, the total open
- 6:55at 42 1/2, pretty low number. At one point few days ago, it
- 6:58got down as low as 41 1/2, but then it's gotten back up to 42
- 7:031/2. And if you look at the 42 1/2
- 7:05right now on game day, all the juice is leaning over.
- 7:08So it's 42 1/2 / -, 115 -, 120. And I'm seeing a couple shops
- 7:14that are even at 43. So you open 42, you're still 42.
- 7:18Again, if you don't pull up the line history or look at the
- 7:20juice, it seems like nothing's going on here.
- 7:22But a closer look leads me to believe that late movement
- 7:25liabilities going over and I do like that at Circa the over is a
- 7:29big pro and Joe Bet split out in Vegas to a higher scoring game.
- 7:3278% bets, 80% dollars on the over and again Circa.
- 7:37Don't worry about public with Circa because it's a sharp book
- 7:40out in Vegas has a smaller clientele, but that clientele is
- 7:44much sharper and they don't get limited overs this year, 72 and
- 7:486254 percent, 2% ROI. Thursday Night Football overs 5
- 7:53and 456 percent, 4% ROI. But here are some other angles
- 7:57to play the over when the total is 43 or less, what I would
- 8:00define as a low total, the overs 18 and 13 this year, 58 percent,
- 8:0511% ROI. This is crazy.
- 8:07I had to double check Bill Vinovich.
- 8:09Bill Vinovich, did you know? Again, this isn't the only
- 8:12reason I'm playing the over, but it's kind of crazy Bill
- 8:14Vinovich's last 12 games that he's been the lead ref.
- 8:17The over is 12 and O. So again, maybe that's BS, maybe
- 8:20it's coincidental, but maybe calls a lot of penalties and
- 8:24maybe get some pass interference and more scoring and stopping
- 8:26the clock. Now weather shouldn't be an
- 8:28issue at all. Looks like a beautiful night at
- 8:30Mile High, low 50s, high 40s, cloudy skies, two to five mile
- 8:34per hour winds. So nothing really in the way of
- 8:36weather. So we have seen this total stay
- 8:39the same but juiced up and we have a lot of system matches to
- 8:42the over. But here's what really made me
- 8:44play the over. I popped open rhythm and I have
- 8:47two rhythm green star recommendations on this game and
- 8:50they are both on the over. So my NFL model is predicting a
- 8:55green star over with a final score of 45.4 and my second
- 9:00green star play, my Josh model is 46.8.
- 9:04So the juice is leaning up, the late movement liability game day
- 9:07is is leaning up. We have splits, we got system
- 9:11matches, we have low total overplay.
- 9:13We have two green star recommendations to the over.
- 9:17And then the other angle for me is again, you know, it's it's a
- 9:22low total that is, is providing a rhythm edge and it does have a
- 9:255% sharp much edge to the over as well.
- 9:27So I took a shot on the over 42 1/2.
- 9:30Now again, the goal is to always get the best juice price.
- 9:33So I got over 42 1/2 I believe it was -112 at FanDuel, but a
- 9:38lot of other books are -118 -, 120 and a lot of books are at
- 9:4143. So again, 2 Green Star rhythm
- 9:44recommendations, system matches, splits.
- 9:47I took the over 42 1/2 Raiders Broncos tonight.
- 9:50Now my second play for the game is a player prop and it is the
- 9:54Geno Smith over passing yards. Now my thought process here,
- 9:58couple things going on. One is that we have a very clear
- 10:01Green Star Rhythm recommendation if you go to and by the way,
- 10:05shout out to Rhythm. We do have our live stream
- 10:07tonight, the Rhythm rundown at 6:00 PM.
- 10:09But Rhythm also just totally changed up their layout.
- 10:11It looks great. But if you go to the player
- 10:14props here, there is a Green Star recommendation on Geno
- 10:16Smith over 212 1/2 passing yards.
- 10:19Rhythm is predicting 251. So that is a 38 1/2 yard
- 10:24discrepancy between the market and what Rhythm is is
- 10:27predicting. Now if you do some research
- 10:29here, you'll notice that it's pretty much 212 1/2 at every
- 10:32book, but at DraftKings it's over two O 8 1/2 at -111.
- 10:38So I jumped on DraftKings over two O 8 1/2 at -111 and my
- 10:42thought process here is OK. One, we have a similar plate to
- 10:46two up. Remember we lost the the IT was
- 10:49disgusting. Don't remind me, the Dolphins in
- 10:52the points where we catch that over to a passing prop.
- 10:54I'm thinking Gino's in the same spot.
- 10:56You're a dog, you're expected to lose.
- 10:59You're probably going to be trailing.
- 11:00You're probably not going to just continue to run the ball if
- 11:02you're down by 14. So you're probably have to throw
- 11:05it to keep pace. And maybe we get a lot of
- 11:06garbage yards. You know, second-half, fourth
- 11:09quarter. Also no Pats or Tan.
- 11:11So one of the best cornerbacks in football may be the best
- 11:14corner other than Sauce Gardner, who just got traded to the
- 11:16Colts. Not going to play in this game.
- 11:18Gino is 3 and 1 to the over to this number in his last four Rd.
- 11:22games. And then here's a little cherry
- 11:23on top. Rhythm has a 251 we can get over
- 11:26to a nap. Great value there discrepancy
- 11:28Green star recommended over, but I wanted to just mention Opta
- 11:32AI. Opta AI is a new just AI model
- 11:37that rhythm that that V sin now shows vsin.com and they've done
- 11:41really well. And I've kind of been paying
- 11:42attention from afar and I'm starting to really focus on it
- 11:44because I keep seeing it do well in cash.
- 11:46But Opta AIA little bit like rhythm.
- 11:49It's just an AI model that predicts player props and final
- 11:52scores. But for Geno Smith, OPT AI is
- 11:56predicting 236.1 passing yards. So even if you take OPT AI 236.1
- 12:03rhythms 251, we can get over two 8 1/2 on a guy that is a dog and
- 12:07probably has to throw the ball. I'm going over two O 8 1/2
- 12:10passing yards with Geno Smith at DraftKings at -111 along with
- 12:15the over 42 1/2. So that about does it for
- 12:18today's pod. Episode 390, of course is going
- 12:20to be a short spiel because I got to get out of here.
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- 14:10guys. I know it's short and sweet, but
- 14:11I got to get out of here to make my doctor's appointment.
- 14:14But as always, two final thoughts.
- 14:15Whether I see you at the Borgata in Atlantic City, Twin River in
- 14:19Rhode Island, the Brooklyn, New Hampshire, Foxwoods or Mohegan
- 14:21Sundown in Connecticut, the Encore in Boston, Plain Ridge
- 14:23Park, Casino, MGM Springfield, the Nash and my neck of the
- 14:26woods in Nashville, New Hampshire on the border of Mass
- 14:29or out in the desert at Circa, whether it's South Point as
- 14:32well. You're going to walk up to me.
- 14:34Show me a beautiful Kent State Ball State under ticket.
- 14:38Nice to catch a very slow, very quiet, slow and low scoring game
- 14:42there. First one's on me, next one's on
- 14:44you. Will post about the book
- 14:45Sweatsharp Contrarian plays all night long.
- 14:47So as always, guys coming off A1 and O or an O and one good
- 14:50night, bad night, winning night, losing night, hot, cold,
- 14:52somewhere in the middle, grinding.
- 14:54Just got to keep sticking with it.
- 14:56Staying true to the model discipline with our bankroll.
- 14:58If we can find the plays that fit our model against the
- 15:00public, with the house, with the pros, flat bet, avoid parlays
- 15:03and get that COV. If we can do that, we're going
- 15:06to be successful sports vetters. So have a great night everybody
- 15:09enjoy Thursday Night Football. Let's get the over in the game.
- 15:12Let's get the over with Gino and I'll see you at 6:00 tonight
- 15:15Eastern Time for the rhythm rundown live on Twitter.
- 15:17You can follow me at Josh under score insights.
- 15:20We'll be right back at it tomorrow for a big Friday
- 15:22edition episode 391 of the All Systems Go sports betting
- 15:25podcast powered by rhythm. Good luck everybody and have a
- 15:28great Thursday night.