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Zoonotic with The Checkout Vet · Ask The Experts

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Speaker 1: Eight forty one thirteen ten WIBA and ask the experts
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Speaker 1: with check Out Veterinary, joined in studio this morning by
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Speaker 1: doctor Marty Greer, veterinarian of the Year of the Westminster
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Speaker 1: Kennel Club. Of course you can learn more about doctor
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Speaker 1: Greer and everyone at Checkout Veterinary. What makes it so
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Speaker 1: unique and really cool and transparency when it comes to pricing. Also,
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Speaker 1: don't forget first visit is free for that for that
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Speaker 1: office visit. Obviously, tests and medications and other things are
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Speaker 1: gonna they're our fees and again, but you can get
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Speaker 1: all that information on the website checkout vet dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's checkout vet dot com open six days a week,
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Speaker 1: nine am until five pm and then includes Wednesdays, just
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Speaker 1: closed on Thursdays. Doctor, you do need, as we were
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Speaker 1: talking before the show, you're a busy, busy doctor. You
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Speaker 1: do need one day to kind of get some get
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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's done in the background, taking
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Speaker 1: care of how you doing this week?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing much better. They found my cell phone which
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Speaker 2: I lost in Oklahoma, so wow, I'm way better.
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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's amazing how you know how
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Speaker 1: attached we've come to our phones, and it's really without
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Speaker 1: your phone, even like if you leave it at home
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Speaker 1: for the day, you just feel very disconnected, and especially
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Speaker 1: if you don't know where it is. Actually, we're going
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Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit of technology when it
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Speaker 1: comes to I think it uses some of the similar
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Speaker 1: technology as a cell phone, air tags, Apple layer tags.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the things you can do
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Speaker 1: with them when it comes to your pet. But first
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the website checkout vet dot com. Got a
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Speaker 1: clinic right here locally in sun Prairie, Run on Prairie
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Speaker 1: LAK's drive. Real quick, before we talk about this week's topic,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about checkout Veterinary and a little bit about
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Speaker 1: the concept. I know sometimes folks may go out of
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Speaker 1: town for the summer, as you know, people do tend
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Speaker 1: to travel from time to time. If they're not familiar
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Speaker 1: with checkout Veterinary and check in Vet. Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: the concept and really the idea behind it and how
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Speaker 1: it works.
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Speaker 2: Sure, so the concept started in Lamira as our large
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Speaker 2: clinic was built in two thousand and eight, and so
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Speaker 2: we built a garage initially one stall, and then I
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Speaker 2: called my architect and said it's not big enough. I
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Speaker 2: want three stalls. And he's like, okay, but don't mess
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Speaker 2: up my roofline, and like that's fine, just push it
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Speaker 2: over a little bit. We'll be fine. So we put
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Speaker 2: three garages in there, and I have a lot of
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Speaker 2: clients that really love that because they can pull into
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Speaker 2: the garage if they have a litter of puppies, if
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Speaker 2: they have a sick dog, if they have a euthanasia,
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Speaker 2: if they have a dog that's injured. They don't have
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Speaker 2: to fight with the weather and the you know, the
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Speaker 2: snow or the rain or the wind or the cold
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Speaker 2: or the dark or whatever. They can just pull into
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Speaker 2: the garage and we can provide services either in their
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Speaker 2: vehicle or at least more conveniently get their pet in
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Speaker 2: and out.
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Speaker 1: So I don't mean to interrupt there, but it's just
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Speaker 1: something and this always happens with me. You mentioned, you know,
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Speaker 1: like an injured pet one of the things I know obviously,
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Speaker 1: if you've got to you know, like I'll use a
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Speaker 1: dog as an example, very docile dog that you know,
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Speaker 1: like maybe jumps in the car. You've got a little
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Speaker 1: harness to clip them in. You still do want to
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Speaker 1: have a pet carrier, for God forbid, if something were
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Speaker 1: to happen that you can put them in that they're
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Speaker 1: comfortable and you're not disturbing any type of injury.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And that applies for injuries, but that applies
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Speaker 2: all the time. And I am constantly amazed by the
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Speaker 2: number of people that don't use crates when they travel
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Speaker 2: with their dogs. And I was actually just talking to
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Speaker 2: a client about this yesterday. Many years ago, I rolled
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Speaker 2: a car. Oh, I had my cat and my two
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Speaker 2: kids with me. We landed wheels up. It is not
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Speaker 2: a fun place to be and I know that if
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Speaker 2: I hadn't had my kids kids seat belted in and
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Speaker 2: myself seat belted in and the cat in a crate,
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Speaker 2: that it would have all gone very badly. Fortunately, it
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Speaker 2: went as well as it can when you total a
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Speaker 2: brand new vehicle, but nobody got hurt, so my cat
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Speaker 2: would have escaped out the window that was broken. My daughter,
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Speaker 2: who twenty five years later, has still not forgiven me
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Speaker 2: because I unbuckled my son out of the seat belt
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Speaker 2: before her. He was in the front seat. I got
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Speaker 2: out of my seat belt right side up, turned around,
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Speaker 2: let him out, then got her out, And to this
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Speaker 2: day she still says, well, you let him out of
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Speaker 2: the seat belt. First, Wow, you are carrying a grudge, girl,
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Speaker 2: But you know that's how kids are. So anyway, the
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Speaker 2: crate is super important. He was safe. I have very
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Speaker 2: secure crates in the back of my I was super
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Speaker 2: hu and I have very specially made crates that are
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Speaker 2: very you can lock, so I can leave the dogs
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Speaker 2: in the car with the tailgate open and it would
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Speaker 2: still be safe. Nobody could take them. And if I
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Speaker 2: get rear in it, if I get hit, if I
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Speaker 2: have anything that happens, they're safe in those crates. So
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Speaker 2: I think that's a really important feature for people to
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Speaker 2: start thinking about. We've had way too many dogs injured,
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Speaker 2: run away things that happen. I had one dog that
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Speaker 2: would not let the empts into the vehicle. He was
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Speaker 2: a little bit protective anyway, and then when the accident happened,
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Speaker 2: he wouldn't let the EMTs into the vehicle to help
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Speaker 2: his owner. So there are so many reasons to do this.
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Speaker 2: After you come home from the vet. You shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: them jumping back and forth over the seat. I've had
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Speaker 2: one client that had a leash caught. The leash was
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Speaker 2: on the dog, the leash got caught and of course
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Speaker 2: that didn't end well. So there's just so many things.
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Speaker 2: Put your dog or cat in a crate. Those little
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Speaker 2: seat belts are cute, they're not going to protect them,
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Speaker 2: and especially in the front seat of the airbag deploys
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Speaker 2: if you don't have that turned off, and it deploys
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Speaker 2: into the dog. Dogs or not built like crash dummies,
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Speaker 2: they don't turn out well. So please, please, please be safe.
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Speaker 2: I know it's cute to have your dog hag there,
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Speaker 2: hagging their head out the window. A couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: doctor huts About was driving to work. He works for
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Speaker 2: US in Lamira, and he saw this car pulled over
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Speaker 2: to the side of the road and a woman had
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Speaker 2: a French bulldog that had been leashed and jumped out
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Speaker 2: the window. So he was out in the marsh running
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Speaker 2: around helping her catch the puppy. So please, please, please
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Speaker 2: don't let him get out, don't let him get hurt.
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Speaker 2: Just put them in a crate. There's so much safer.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't drive without your seatbelt on. You wouldn't. You
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Speaker 2: shouldn't let your dog or your cat be in the
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Speaker 2: vehicle without safety.
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Speaker 1: My in laws once gave me a hard time because
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Speaker 1: our Chiuaha Homer rides in a crate and we buckle
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Speaker 1: it in and they're like put a seatbelt on the
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Speaker 1: Northern Wisconsin a little bit different. But years ago I
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Speaker 1: was doing it, was doing traffic and there was an
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Speaker 1: accident where a dog had run off after that, and
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Speaker 1: I remember it was and you'll see and you'll hear
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Speaker 1: stories of that is people don't always think and as
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Speaker 1: you think, goodness, it turned out okay. Experience firsthand when
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Speaker 1: cars roll, it's not like I feel like we get
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Speaker 1: this because we see in the movies like this. It's
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Speaker 1: slow motion. It's like an instant violent and there's you know,
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Speaker 1: if you're unsecured at a pad, so really really very
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Speaker 1: important stuff. So yeah, a pet owners should have that
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Speaker 1: that crazy you mentioned too, And we talk about pets
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Speaker 1: running off, and pets do. Even the most docile, perfect
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Speaker 1: pet experiences something, whether it's a bunny rabbit across the
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Speaker 1: backyard that just for some reason catches their fancy stranger whatever,
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Speaker 1: they'll or their puppies, they'll just decide I'm going to
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Speaker 1: run air tags. I've seen people putting air tags on collars.
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Speaker 1: Is that advisable? Is that something that they make special
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Speaker 1: collar or what's kind of the thinking there, doctor, Sure.
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Speaker 2: So the official Apple statement is don't do it. The
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Speaker 2: unofficial Mardy Greer statement is it works really well. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I do have one dog that goes back and
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Speaker 2: forth between my house and one of my technicians homes,
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Speaker 2: and a few months ago she took off on them
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Speaker 2: in the dark and she will never ever leave their
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Speaker 2: light of sight without an air tag on her collar.
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Speaker 2: So they make them that hang off the collar. They
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Speaker 2: make them that lay flat against the collar. Those are
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Speaker 2: probably the safest because they don't get caught, they don't
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Speaker 2: get pulled off. She has chewed up two of the
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Speaker 2: little dangly ones, but just the case, not the actual
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Speaker 2: AirTag itself. So she's pulled those off, so we've gotten
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Speaker 2: her a different one. You can buy lots of them,
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Speaker 2: and there's a reason they sell that those kinds of
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Speaker 2: devices is because people do use air tags. So I
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Speaker 2: have a client who has one of my farm dogs.
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Speaker 2: I have Danish Swedish farm dogs and a couple of
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Speaker 2: winters ago. She used to work at the Milwaukee County zoos.
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Speaker 2: So she's a belts and suspenders when it comes to gates,
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Speaker 2: like she has two gates, two of everything, and her
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Speaker 2: son had accidentally left the gate open and the dog
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Speaker 2: took off, and so she saw on her cell phone
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Speaker 2: that the dog was running. He was upstairs in the shower.
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Speaker 2: It was December. He ran downstairs shampoo his hair, not
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Speaker 2: much on running down the street in Milwaukee, a block
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Speaker 2: from the Mental Health Institute with the dog's favorite toy
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Speaker 2: to try and get it back because he could see
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Speaker 2: where the dog was. So it's a great device. And
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Speaker 2: I lost my cell phone last week. It's not an Apple.
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Speaker 2: I'm putting an Apple AirTag on the cell phone. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I just think Apple air tags are like the best
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Speaker 2: thing ever because you put them on your keys, you
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Speaker 2: put them on your dog, you put them on everything.
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Speaker 2: Just be thoughtful about the case you put on them.
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Speaker 2: And if the dog does chew it up and swallow it,
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Speaker 2: then you probably need to go in and have the
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Speaker 2: dog vomited up. But I have not seen, and we've
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Speaker 2: known about air tags for a number of years, I
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Speaker 2: have yet to see a dog that actually swallows one.
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Speaker 2: Could they Oh yeah, they could if they do well,
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Speaker 2: at least we know where it is because you can
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Speaker 2: track it. It'll track even inside the dog, so you
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Speaker 2: can see it on an X ray. You can track
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Speaker 2: it with your phone and go whoop, you know, because
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Speaker 2: it does make that little beepy noise. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you can hear it beep through the dogs domina wall,
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Speaker 2: but I wouldn't want them to eat it. But it's
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Speaker 2: it's a great device.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too. You mentioned that we're using these
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Speaker 1: different places. The guy who does our radio voices that
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Speaker 1: got's thirteen turned. He was coming back from Ireland, his
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Speaker 1: bags were lost. He put an air tag in it
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Speaker 1: and he actually called contact the airport and said I
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Speaker 1: can see exactly and ended up thank good as tracking
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Speaker 1: it down. And I think folks with runner dogs and
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Speaker 1: they're and are are all dogs trainable not to be runner? Okay,
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Speaker 1: because I've my brother had a h when many years
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Speaker 1: ago when him and his wife first were married, my
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Speaker 1: sister in law they had they had a dog and
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Speaker 1: it was a runner. And I'm like, how does that
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Speaker 1: just Some dogs just have a natural tendency to I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go.
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Speaker 2: And some of it's by breed, you know. You get
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Speaker 2: a Siberian Husky as Samoia and malamute, what were they
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Speaker 2: bred to do they were bred to run. Some of
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Speaker 2: the hunting dogs, they're bred to run. So you're not
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Speaker 2: going to outdo what DNA, what they're you know, with
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Speaker 2: their genome, what their brain is programmed to do. And
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Speaker 2: there's other dogs that would never think of leaving your
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Speaker 2: side until there's a rabbit that riends across the road,
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Speaker 2: or you know, something else happens. Their favorite person is
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Speaker 2: somewhere else, so you want to be really aware of that.
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Speaker 2: And puppies. People think their puppies are really good, Like
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Speaker 2: at their three month four month mark, they're sticking around,
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Speaker 2: they're doing great. Something that happens at that four and
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Speaker 2: a half month mark that they go from you or
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Speaker 2: my entire life to oh my gosh, look there's a butterfly.
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Speaker 1: Look there's a.
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Speaker 2: Leaf, Look there's something else. If there's a kid across
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Speaker 2: the street, and suddenly the dog starts to take off,
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Speaker 2: So you want to just be thoughtful about that and
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Speaker 2: not fit yourself up for failure.
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Speaker 1: And that's some great advice this morning, as always from
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Speaker 1: the doctor, doctor Marty Greer. Course Doctor Greer comes to
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Speaker 1: on thirteen ten. Wib E.
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Speaker 3: Oh Man talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer. Check
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Speaker 3: Out Veterinary. The website checkout vet dot com. That's checkout
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Speaker 3: vet dot com. Speaking of animals, of course, we talk
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Speaker 3: here every every Thursday morning at eight thirty. Let's start
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Speaker 3: with the checkout veterinary. The type of animals pets, you
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Speaker 3: see cats, dogs, primary.
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Speaker 2: Sure, mostly dogs and cats, because every now and then
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Speaker 2: we get a bird or something fuzzy. Not much with scales,
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Speaker 2: you know, just by preference. There are veterinary clinics that
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Speaker 2: do specialize in those, and we're certainly not going to
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Speaker 2: pretend that we are experts in exotics, but dogs and
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Speaker 2: cats are really our thing, yeah, and those are the
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Speaker 2: ones who come in for preventive care, the wellness testing,
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Speaker 2: the heartwroom test, the steel samples, the vaccines, the preventives,
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Speaker 2: all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: And I think about those things. And I was asking
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Speaker 1: you before the show about cats and dogs, and obviously
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Speaker 1: most of us you've got cats. Whether you like it
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Speaker 1: or not, the cat's probably laying in your bed. Oftentimes
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Speaker 1: you wake up kitty staring at in the face dog.
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Speaker 1: Same thing. I was asking, Can you get your dog
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Speaker 1: sick or vice versa? Or cats? Can cats get people sick?
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Speaker 1: And those I mean, are there illnesses that are transmittable
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Speaker 1: that way?
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Speaker 2: There are. They're called zoonotic diseases, and there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of them, Like it is amazing how many there are.
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Speaker 2: Now we've tried to keep that to a minimum. We've
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Speaker 2: done pretty good in the United States, but in many
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Speaker 2: countries it doesn't work out that well. Rabies, of course,
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Speaker 2: is the one that people get most concerned about because
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Speaker 2: of the severity of it. There's just no coming back
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Speaker 2: from rabies. So we don't vaccinate our dogs just for
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Speaker 2: the sake of our dogs and our cats just for
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Speaker 2: the sake of the cat. But it's to protect human health.
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Speaker 2: It's that barrier between wildlife. My sister years ago lived
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Speaker 2: in an upstairs apartment in downtown Minneapolis and she had
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Speaker 2: bats in her apartment. She had them on more than
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Speaker 2: one occasion, and her cats found them to be really great. Twice. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: really fun, but not cool to find a bat flapping
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Speaker 2: around in your bathroom with your two cats chasing it.
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Speaker 2: So we vaccinate our cats and our dogs to protect
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Speaker 2: us from rabies, and people kind of put up some
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Speaker 2: resistance to vaccinations for rabies. They're like, well, I think
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Speaker 2: it lasts longer than three years. Well it might, but
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Speaker 2: we don't really have the data that shows that. So
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Speaker 2: because of human health, that's why we do those things.
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Speaker 2: There's other things. There's parasites that we worry about. There's
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Speaker 2: other diseases. People can get boredotella, but not very often.
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Speaker 2: People can get heartworm, but again not often, tip only
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Speaker 2: if you're immunosuppressed. Fecal you know, worms are the biggest concern.
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Speaker 2: Fecal contamination. Worms and bacteria. So we can get salmonella
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Speaker 2: and chgella and campelobacter and all kinds of nasty bacterial
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Speaker 2: diseases from our dogs, or perhaps from the food. If
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Speaker 2: we're feeding a raw meat diet, the dog gets that
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Speaker 2: in their system and then you get it. Parasites are
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Speaker 2: a big concern. We used to think giardia was something
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Speaker 2: that went back and forth between dogs and people, and
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Speaker 2: now they've really determined that there's specific dog giardia and
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Speaker 2: specific human giardia. So probably not too much of that
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Speaker 2: back and forth, but we want to be careful.
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Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 1: our pets best buddy aside from us, as our other
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Speaker 1: cats that love their dogs and dogs. Can they get
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Speaker 1: sharing drinking water and other things?
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Speaker 2: Is?
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Speaker 1: Can they can they also infect illness back and forth?
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Speaker 2: They can mostly again is the fecal oral route because
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Speaker 2: we all know what dogs think about cat litter boxes.
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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to make a treat someday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's that's how that passes back
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Speaker 2: and forth. So round worms, hookworms, some of those things
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Speaker 2: are concerns that they can go back and forth between pets,
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Speaker 2: but not too many viral diseases other than rabies are
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Speaker 2: transmissible back and forth. Now, parvo virus and PAM lucipedia
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Speaker 2: and cats are similar, but they're not the same virus,
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Speaker 2: So there's probably not as much overlapped dog to cat
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Speaker 2: as we worry about, like doged people, like parasites there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of case history about kids that get round
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Speaker 2: worms from dogs, and they can get either ocular larva migrants,
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Speaker 2: which means that the parasite larva migrants to their eye
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Speaker 2: and causes the blindness, or visceral larva larval migrants that
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Speaker 2: can migrate to the liver and lungs and make them sick.
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Speaker 2: So anytime you get a new puppy, the first thing
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Speaker 2: you need to do is get to the vat and
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Speaker 2: get deworming given to the pet, because the last thing
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Speaker 2: you need is for a child or someone in your family.
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Speaker 2: You know, if they're immune suppressed, if they're elderly, they're
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Speaker 2: in chemo, they're on all these new drugs now that
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Speaker 2: we see that are helping people's immune diseases like rheumatoid
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Speaker 2: arthritis and siatic arthritis and cones disease and all those things.
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Speaker 2: All these people have immunis suppressive drugs that they're on
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Speaker 2: to control their disease, so that sets them up for
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Speaker 2: some of these other things that normally their body could
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Speaker 2: be resistant to.
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Speaker 1: Text yourself text pat tech.
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Speaker 2: Everybody in sport, question what about lice and fleas? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Good question flea, Yeah, fleas will jump on people and
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Speaker 2: bite you. They don't typically like to stay there. Lice
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Speaker 2: are very specific, so they won't go back and forth
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Speaker 2: between people and animals, at least not for very long.
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Speaker 2: There's some kind of disgusting stories that I'm going to
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Speaker 2: skip over, but lice are pretty specific, so they typically
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Speaker 2: don't go back and forth. Mites, again, you can get
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Speaker 2: mite bites, you can get flea bites. They won't want
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Speaker 2: to stay on you very long because you're not their host,
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Speaker 2: but they can cause a rash and cause some pretty
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Speaker 2: significant discomfort. My mother in law she married a second
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Speaker 2: husband after her first husband passed away, and he thought
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Speaker 2: every summer he had a rash because it was summer.
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Speaker 2: Turns out every summer his cats had fleas, and then
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Speaker 2: he got these big flea bites up and down the
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Speaker 2: And of course ticks don't have really a specific host.
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Speaker 2: They'll live on anything that's warm blooded. So again, they're
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Speaker 2: found multiple ticks on him after visits with dogs. He's like, ooh,
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Speaker 2: so he's the new host. So we try to avoid
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Speaker 2: those things. So using good preventives is really important, really.
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