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Football at Four: Last Minute Updates and Thoughts for Eagles-Chargers · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Getting ready for the Eagles and the Chargers are Marion Hampton.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, we'll play for the Chargers knight, first
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  Speaker 1: time since he'll play since Week five. Justin Herbert expected
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  Speaker 1: to play seven days after a surgery to his left hand.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll take a look at some of the keys
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  Speaker 1: to an Eagles win over this Chargers team. We just
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  Speaker 1: talked to lorenzo'neil, the former Charger fullback, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's feeling pretty good about where this Charger team is.
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  Speaker 1: He likes where their defense is. They've play a lot
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  Speaker 1: of zone defense last week, they played a lot of
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  Speaker 1: man demand against the Chargers. He likes their run game
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  Speaker 1: right now. And Adam, you look at the Eagles run game,
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  Speaker 1: their offense. Let's take a look at them and their
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  Speaker 1: role in this victory tonight potentially against the Chargers. What
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  Speaker 1: does their offense need to do?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, lo and I go way back. He
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  Speaker 2: used to do a show in the Bay Area on
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  Speaker 2: the game, and I used to be on a show,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, he of course I heard. I heard the segment.
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  Speaker 2: So he wants to Eagles to run the football and
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. But we'll get that in the second.
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  Speaker 2: But Mike. Here's the good thing. Two out of the
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  Speaker 2: last three games, Mike, as you know, the win was
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  Speaker 2: terrible at home, so win will not be a factor,
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  Speaker 2: whether or not be a factor. We saw the game
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas where Hurts had the excellent first half. The
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  Speaker 2: second half was ruined. Three drivers were ruined by penalty.
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  Speaker 2: They had fourteen penalties in that game. One was actually
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  Speaker 2: they actually fifteen. One was negated by offsetting with Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: So look when they dropped back, they got to protect
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  Speaker 2: right and Kevin Bittullo he called a really good game
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  Speaker 2: against Dallas, despite what fans thought. He actually that was
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  Speaker 2: one of his best games. He's called penalties, crushed them,
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  Speaker 2: no question about that. That's not his fault. There's plenty
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  Speaker 2: of other times you could criticize him, but he's been
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  Speaker 2: with Hurts five years, Mike. One of my major criticisms
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  Speaker 2: with with Petullo is he skipped steps like you. Kellimore
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  Speaker 2: did the same thing. For two months last year after
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  Speaker 2: the after that great game against Brazil, hurt struggled mightily,
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  Speaker 2: and I would say every week, how are you gonna
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  Speaker 2: help this quarterback? He's struggling to get the blot of
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  Speaker 2: his hands quickly. You can't start going deep until you
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  Speaker 2: go short. And they did a whole lot of things
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  Speaker 2: against Dallas. So get Hurts after, get him off to
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  Speaker 2: a fast start. Mike got it that easy passes, easy
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  Speaker 2: completions have him feel good about himself. Now, I want
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  Speaker 2: to add something this defense. I want to folks when
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  Speaker 2: they watch tonight, watch jesse Mincher's defense. They'll run a
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  Speaker 2: five man front. Well, pre snapper looks like a five
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  Speaker 2: man front. They'll drop two guys out. Hurts has got
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  Speaker 2: to be super decisive. Don't hesitate when he struggles. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: he's not decisive. Jesse mentor the defensive coordinator, does a
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  Speaker 2: lot of post staff disguise. He's got to be careful,
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  Speaker 2: but not overly careful when he doesn't throw the football.
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  Speaker 2: Be decisive tonight, Mike watched the folks watch that tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the one thing is, yes, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be on the road in la Is, a place where
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  Speaker 1: their weather shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully get yeah, hopefully
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  Speaker 1: get the passing game going. But can they get that
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  Speaker 1: run game going. If they can't get the run game going, though,
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  Speaker 1: can they do some things in the screen game. Can
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  Speaker 1: they do some short things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I put this on my list, Mike, because when
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  Speaker 2: they've done it, it's actually been effective. Hurts will check
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  Speaker 2: it down what he doesn't like what he sees. And
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  Speaker 2: they don't use will Shipley as much as we thought
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  Speaker 2: they would. Pot that Shipley look good in training camp,
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  Speaker 2: they really haven't used them. Barkley's been good in the
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  Speaker 2: screen game when you don't drop it. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, wide receiver screens. Got it on the
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  Speaker 2: tunnel screen or hide screen as some coaches call it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Siriani talked about using the time off quote
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  Speaker 2: of like you know, the mini buy to change some
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  Speaker 2: things up. My man Tim McManus had the story ESPN
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  Speaker 2: dot Com that Syria and I spent more time on
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  Speaker 2: offense and more time to meetings more active. Fine, but
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about play selection. What are you doing to
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  Speaker 2: use the enormous talent they have an offense And that's
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  Speaker 2: just it's Sirianni scheme. Mike. You can blame, but fans
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  Speaker 2: can blame Patula all they want, but it's Syriana scheme.
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  Speaker 2: What we've told you is outdated and should be jumped
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  Speaker 2: in the offseason. But what's not changed the Egos have
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  Speaker 2: outstanding passing personnel, and by the way that Chargers are
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  Speaker 2: not good at corner. Tarheep still has been a good story.
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  Speaker 2: Not an a level corner Dante Jackson should not be starting.
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  Speaker 2: So when they drop back and they protect curtain, he's decisive.
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  Speaker 2: They should have success well.
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  Speaker 1: And you know you got to get the offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: the pass protection, all that stuff, and you know you're
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  Speaker 1: wondering if this offensive line can be a factor in
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  Speaker 1: the game tonight, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things when they play twelve personnel, which
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  Speaker 2: is two tight ends, two receivers who went back. We've
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  Speaker 2: been calling this for on Inside the burd for six weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's really bothered me. It's such a small thing, but
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  Speaker 2: it's actually a big thing. People know the game, fans
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  Speaker 2: listen to, really know the game. They agree with me
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  Speaker 2: because our fans on Patreon level three. We will talk
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  Speaker 2: to those folks at halftime tonight. They noticed I've been
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  Speaker 2: crying for this enough of calcu Terra is an inline
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  Speaker 2: tight end. He can't do it. Cam Latt to Mike.
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  Speaker 2: They use him as an offset fullback where he's got
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  Speaker 2: a cross that's not the best way to us use him.
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  Speaker 2: As a y tight end and in line blocker. Don't
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  Speaker 2: use calcaterra. This is banded coaching. Mike, I rarely say
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  Speaker 2: that I don't understand what they're trying to do here.
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  Speaker 2: That's one thing that Syriana could protect. Well, he could
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  Speaker 2: change excuse me, he can protect the player is get
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  Speaker 2: calcu terra off the field and a lot to on
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  Speaker 2: it when they play twelve personnel?
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  Speaker 1: So what kind of d do we expect to see
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  Speaker 1: from the Chargers tonight?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So I heard you, you know, Mike, you
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  Speaker 2: were talking Lorenzo Neil about it, Jesse Mentor about It's
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  Speaker 2: a really cool story. Who was Harball's Jim Harball's DC
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  Speaker 2: at Michigan? His dad Rick? Well, I know a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Rick was a defensive assist on a Chipcarell be the
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  Speaker 2: senior defensive assistant first sunn Jesse. It's actually very cool.
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  Speaker 2: And wait, you see Dalen Henley's a terrific inside backer.
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  Speaker 2: He's great. Denzel Perriman the HLS one, the other inside backer,
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  Speaker 2: they tackle really well. They'll blitz them a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Khalail Mack will probably be a Hall of Famer still
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  Speaker 2: playing well. Marlon Tooley Poalocci's brother, the younger brother, Tooley
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  Speaker 2: is having a breakout season. You got, you talked about it, Mike. Protect,
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  Speaker 2: You've got to protect. Now. What's going to be fascinating
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  Speaker 2: this Mike? And we'll move to defense in a second.
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  Speaker 2: What is Batula and Sirianni's approach here? Is it more
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  Speaker 2: twelve personnel? Is it more eleven? Because we got they
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  Speaker 2: got Obviously they're going to try to run the football.
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  Speaker 2: We know that Leagles don't run it well. Barkley is
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  Speaker 2: still in pace for under twelve hundred yards, Mike, he
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  Speaker 2: still is. So if they don't get off the good start.
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  Speaker 2: To me, you got to spread the Chargers out. But
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  Speaker 2: if they can't protect, Mike, you gotta play heavy twelve.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't protect, you got to try something else,
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  Speaker 2: and that's playing twelve personnel. All right.
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  Speaker 1: There's a look at some of the things the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: offense needs to try to do for a win over
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers tonight. And of course, the Eagles offense thirteen
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  Speaker 1: points a game over their last four. Their defense, though, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that number does exist. Defensively, what do we expect, no,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter there tonight. This is a team that struggles
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  Speaker 1: up front with their offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Hassan Haskins, who the powerback who played for
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  Speaker 2: harvvaut Michigan. He's activated along with Hampton, and then the
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  Speaker 2: Kamanie Videll out of Troy has been a phenomenal story.
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  Speaker 2: He's looked great. So they're going for a team that
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  Speaker 2: had no depth at running back. Now they have an
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  Speaker 2: abundance of depth. So they're in good shape and they
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  Speaker 2: want to run under Atlantic City's Greg Roman. Greg Roman,
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  Speaker 2: as a longtime NFL jeneral manager, told me most sophisticated
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  Speaker 2: run game he's ever seen on tape. They orthodoxically do
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different stuff. The twelve personnel, eleven personnel,
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  Speaker 2: twenty one personal, twenty two personnel, two backs, Scott matt
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  Speaker 2: Locked the fullback who was a d tackle. They do
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different stuff, Mike. They've shown it pretty
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  Speaker 2: much everything they do. But you don't know when you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Jalen Carter not playing Byron, I mean young
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  Speaker 2: Young is a good story. I'm fascinating to see what
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  Speaker 2: the approaches that d tackle tonight. Mike. It's it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be fun, Mike, It's going to be fun. But
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  Speaker 2: see if they can't stop the run, Mike, it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to blitz if you can't get up the field. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Marcus Epps, as expected, was activated. We'd
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  Speaker 2: be very surprised if you don't start it over Ceedey Brown.
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  Speaker 2: And also how about this one. Andre Sam also elevated,
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  Speaker 2: we'll play on special teams, so they're loaded at safety.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see how they do it. But overall, Mike, with
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  Speaker 2: their five man front, they got to be able to
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  Speaker 2: stop the run, and you hope that they can. If
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  Speaker 2: they can, it's going to be a long night.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's a charger teap. It's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of weapons too. In the past game, I mean they
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  Speaker 1: can kind of you know, you got Justin Herbert with
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  Speaker 1: his hand here. I'm interested to see how that kind
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  Speaker 1: of factors in. Lorenz O'Neil seem to think that he
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  Speaker 1: would be fine with that that he did come back
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  Speaker 1: obviously and play last week. But they could throw it around.
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  Speaker 1: McConkie is the kind of guy that gives Eagles fits.
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  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen just a veteran guy gats into, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a crafty tight end and for a rookie, Quinton john
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  Speaker 1: They got a lot of weapons here.
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  Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston like he was headed to buff phil for
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  Speaker 2: last season, but he's having a quasi breakout season. He's
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  Speaker 2: their ex receiver, but Conky is their Z. They'll move
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  Speaker 2: him inside and outside. He's not purely an outside receiver.
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  Speaker 2: He really can't do that. He's phenomenal. The I said
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  Speaker 2: this on our pregame show, which you could pick up,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, you could after you've done folks, listen
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  Speaker 2: tonight prior to the game. You can watch it with
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  Speaker 2: Greg co selling Greg Jeff Motioner. You could download it
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: listen to an anity podcasting platform. I talked about this
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  Speaker 2: twenty two years of the Scenon Bowl I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: is Ladin McConkie, just ridiculous, traderia quickness, very shifty. And
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  Speaker 2: then Kenyan Allen is one of the best third down
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  Speaker 2: receivers still the National Footbleague. It's incredible. And how about
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  Speaker 2: Rondie Gatston junior. You and I Allen remember his dad
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  Speaker 2: for the Dolphins were the Goggles. Yep, his son is
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  Speaker 2: a jumpo receiver. Jump on he really I know he
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  Speaker 2: played sad end but he he's like Evan Ingram, He's
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  Speaker 2: super explosive. They got a lot of juice on offense. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and I put this in my notes
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  Speaker 2: for Dori. Jackson gets off to a bad start, pull him.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be interest to see if that happens. Do they
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  Speaker 2: move to Gene, which is what they've done in the past.
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  Speaker 2: It's a corner. Will they ever play Jacory and Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Jakryan Bennett?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like it. Vict doesn't have confidence in him,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe maybe one of these days he's been better
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  Speaker 2: in practice in Vic trustin who knows?
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  Speaker 1: Tell here they could use Thomas Booker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what, Mike, I didn't like the trade.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like the trade when they traded the kid,
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  Speaker 2: the backup tackle to the Packers. Yeah, it could be
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  Speaker 2: right exact Darian Knark could call that was not a
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  Speaker 2: good trade. I know they got a six round pick,
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  Speaker 2: but they could have used him as a backup right
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  Speaker 2: tackle and it's an extra tackle when they go to Jumbo.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, Thomas Booker. You know, it's funny he's starting,
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  Speaker 2: man because the the Raiders are not good at de tackle.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, they could have absolute used them. And tonight
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  Speaker 2: they really could have used them like, I know where
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  Speaker 2: you're going here with that one. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just to add some more depth to that defensive
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  Speaker 1: line spot which is obviously uh diminished right now with
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  Speaker 1: Carter we don't know when he'll be back, but he's
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  Speaker 1: certainly not playing tonight. And and you know, to say,
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  Speaker 1: this is a Chargers team that is I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to make of them. They're good when they're healthy.
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  Speaker 1: Their line is a mess, but this is just like
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  Speaker 1: a super Bowl level team with their with their offensive
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  Speaker 1: line attack right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well possibly now we got to see Herbert's now
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  Speaker 2: had a broken left hand, so we have to see
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  Speaker 2: I know it's his non throwing hands, see how it works.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to give a shout out to Evan
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: excuse me, the sports Meant bros and their podcasters. So
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: Aaron Borgman, a former Eagles and chiefs assistant trainer. He
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  Speaker 2: did a show for our Patreon Level three members and
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  Speaker 2: it's a chalk talk. Wait to hear what he talked.
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  Speaker 2: We did we posted this morning. Wait t here already
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  Speaker 2: talks about lane shots and the Lyft Fronc injury. It's
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  Speaker 2: crazy the information that he had and just about what
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Lane's dealing with, and we went over Jalen Carter and
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  Speaker 2: what's what's if he did get the PRP or another
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  Speaker 2: tip of shot, what it entails Jalen Carter, as we
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  Speaker 2: reported right run the Eagles draft and that well, we
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  Speaker 2: actually talked about before the draft, but we explained it
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  Speaker 2: after the draft. He's gonna have chronic shoulder problems and
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  Speaker 2: he still does. It doesn't mean he won't play eight
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  Speaker 2: or ten years, Mike, you just talked about it. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know when he's going to be back, because if
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  Speaker 2: he had shots, it's when the paint subside. So and
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  Speaker 2: of its quarter zone. By the way, what Aaron Borgan
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  Speaker 2: told us, it's a minimum of two weeks. It's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to come back for two weeks when you get
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  Speaker 2: quarters on shots.
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  Speaker 1: All right. You can listen to the game tonight right
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  Speaker 1: here on ninety seven three ESPN. Meil Reese might quick
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  Speaker 1: on the call Eagles chargers. Both teams needed chargers in
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  Speaker 1: that wild card mix in the ASC West. Eagles obviously
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  Speaker 1: looking for a number one seed with the Bears losing yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan and the guys over at inside the Birds
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  Speaker 1: have plenty more on this game check out the Inside
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  Speaker 1: of the Birds podcast on all podcasting platforms. Thanks Adam,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks man Cea.