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The Bolt Report | 21 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson coming up tonight. The mother of all slap downs,
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  Speaker 2: delivered by the US President to Kevin Rudd for comments
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  Speaker 2: he's made in the past. Former White House Press Secretary
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  Speaker 2: Sean Spicer will join me with his reaction. Plus, questions
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  Speaker 2: remain over whether several nationals MPs will jump ship to
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  Speaker 2: one nation as senior liberals meet today in a push
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  Speaker 2: for unity.
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  Speaker 3: Senator Matt Canavan will have more on that.
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  Speaker 2: And the graveyard for Chinese electric vehicles sits south of
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  Speaker 2: Sydney with no explanation as to why they're there.
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  Speaker 3: My panel will have more on that.
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  Speaker 2: Plus is the historic peace agreement in the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: going to last after a series of deadly attacks in Gaza?
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  Speaker 2: All of that to come, but first I'm calling it now.
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  Speaker 2: This was the greatest slap down in White House history.
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  Speaker 2: Forget the shouting match with Ukraine's Zelensky.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, you don't You're gambling with millions of people.
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  Speaker 4: See you're gambling with World War three. You're gambling with
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  Speaker 4: World War three.
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  Speaker 2: And don't worry about the home truth delivered to South
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  Speaker 2: Africa's Cyril Ramaposa.
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  Speaker 4: Death.
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  Speaker 5: Death.
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  Speaker 4: They're saying that kill the white farmer and takes their lamb.
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  Speaker 3: As for that awkward handshake with Emmanuel mccron.
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  Speaker 6: Gathering there from a peace summit, Now there is a
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  Speaker 6: bro shake if ever, I we won't let go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you let go.
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm going to let go.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there we go.
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  Speaker 2: That was a blip and nothing burger compared to what
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump served up this morning to Kevin Rudd. Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Rudd was at the White House in his capacity as
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  Speaker 2: our ambassador, a role he probably thinks of as Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Part three. He was seated at the White House
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  Speaker 2: Cabinet room table, almost directly across from the US President,
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  Speaker 2: whom he has variously described over the years as the
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  Speaker 2: most destructive president in history and a.
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  Speaker 7: Traitor to the West.
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  Speaker 2: For perhaps the first time in his life, Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 2: was quiet, polite, subdued, sitting there like a schoolboy at
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  Speaker 2: the headmaster's table, hoping no one would remember that he'd
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  Speaker 2: once graffiti I hate the Principle on the toilet wall.
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  Speaker 2: And for a while there it looked like Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 2: might just get away with it. I suspect Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 2: even allowed himself a moment to relax. After all, the
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  Speaker 2: meeting was going well. Trump seemed to be in a
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  Speaker 2: good mood. Rudd was smiling that nervous smile of a
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  Speaker 2: man who's halfway through a minefield and starting to think
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  Speaker 2: that maybe, just maybe he'll make it to the other side,
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  Speaker 2: and then well then, like a thunderclap in a library,
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  Speaker 2: our Sky News colleague Andrew Clenell asked a question. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you've probably seen it, but let's be honest. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you can ever see this too many times been.
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  Speaker 8: Concerned in Australia. It's taken nine months to get this meeting.
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  Speaker 8: Have you had any concerns with this administration with a
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  Speaker 8: stance on Palestine, climate change or even things the ambassador
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  Speaker 8: said about you in the past austrain ambassador, I.
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  Speaker 9: Don't know anything about him. And he said bad, then
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  Speaker 9: maybe he'll like to apologize. I really don't know. Did
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  Speaker 9: an ambassador to says something bad about it? Don't tell
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  Speaker 9: me where is he is he still working for? Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: you said bad before I took this positions to prison.
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  Speaker 9: But I don't like you either, and probably never will.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't just a slap down that was a public
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  Speaker 2: execution with applause.
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  Speaker 3: Trump played it like a master.
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  Speaker 2: First, he pretended not to know who Kevin Rudd was
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  Speaker 2: or or whether he was still the ambassador, and then,
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  Speaker 2: while acting surprise to learn Kevin Rudd was sitting directly
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  Speaker 2: opposite him, Trump suggested in front of the world's media
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  Speaker 2: that perhaps Kevin Rudd might like to apologize.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd, for the first time in his life, not
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  Speaker 2: happy to be the center of attention, offered a lame
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  Speaker 2: excuse that his nasty comments were made before he took
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  Speaker 2: up the position of ambassador. But Trump talked right over
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  Speaker 2: the top of him, telling him to his face that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like him and he never will. And then
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  Speaker 2: Trump just moved right on with the press conference, leaving
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd to take the longest, saddest sip of water.
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  Speaker 2: But that wasn't the most humiliating part. The most humiliating
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  Speaker 2: part was the way in which everyone in the room
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  Speaker 2: roared with laughter at Kevin Rudd's expense, and no one
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  Speaker 2: laughed louder than Anthony Albinezie.
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  Speaker 9: You said bad before I took this positions to prison.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't like you either, never will.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, just on Anthony Elbanezi. Watch how quickly
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  Speaker 2: he throws Kevin Rudd under the bus.
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  Speaker 3: What's again?
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  Speaker 2: As Trump turns to Elbanze and asks is the ambassador
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  Speaker 2: still working for you?
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  Speaker 3: Elbow doesn't even hesitate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he giggles, pointing straight at Rudd like a
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  Speaker 2: kid dobbing in his mate to the teacher.
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  Speaker 4: Did an ambassador to say something bad? Don't tell me
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  Speaker 4: where is he? Is he still working? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Albanzy has a huge grin on his face as Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Rudd is left dangling like a pinata while Trump takes
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  Speaker 2: a big, big swing. Even Industry Minister Tim Ayres joined
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  Speaker 2: in giggling beside Rudd, like the mate who laughed the
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  Speaker 2: loudest when you fall off your bike, Because at least
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't him.
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  Speaker 4: Do you said bad before I took this positions to prison?
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  Speaker 4: I don't like you either, never will.
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  Speaker 2: While everyone was laughing at Rudd's expense, the man himself
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  Speaker 2: was privately seething, probably wishing he.
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  Speaker 3: Was in Beijing.
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  Speaker 2: If you watch closely, you can actually see the moment
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd realized his career long smugness had been dismantled.
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  Speaker 2: In front of the world. Keep your eyes on his
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  Speaker 2: facial expression.
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  Speaker 4: You said bad took his positions to president, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't like you either.
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  Speaker 2: For a man who spent his entire career convinced he
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  Speaker 2: was the smartest person in every room, Kevin Rudd found
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  Speaker 2: himself in the one room where everyone was laughing, but
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  Speaker 2: not with him. It must have been a lonely walk
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  Speaker 2: back to his Washington, d C. Residence, where he would
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  Speaker 2: no doubt have sat and reflected on the morning's events.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, we've been able to obtain exclusive footage from
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  Speaker 2: inside Rudd's private residence capturing the moments immediately after he
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  Speaker 2: arrived home from his meeting with Trump. Hokus hopeless, indeed
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  Speaker 2: and glorious, simply glorious.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: It was reported that after journalists left the room, Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Rudd said sorry to Donald Trump, who in return reportedly replied,
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  Speaker 2: all is forgiven now. Unlike most people, I don't expect
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd will be replaced as ambassador.
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  Speaker 3: He'll remain in Washington, d C. Thanks to two things.
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  Speaker 2: First, our PM's cowardice and second, the President's graciousness. You
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  Speaker 2: saw how Anthony Albinezi threw Rudd under the bus and
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  Speaker 2: then laughed hysterically as Trump evacerated him on the world stage.
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  Speaker 3: Will compare that.
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  Speaker 2: To Sir Kiir Starmer, the human embodiment of cold Tea,
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  Speaker 2: who still managed to show more loyalty to his friend
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  Speaker 2: Sadik Khan than Elbow did to Rudd.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not a fan of your mayor.
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  Speaker 9: I think your man, I think he's done a terrible Joe,
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  Speaker 9: the mayor of London.
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  Speaker 4: But the nasty person I think he's doing. I think
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a friend of mine Russia. No, I
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  Speaker 4: think he's done a terrible job.
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  Speaker 2: When Trump said Sadik Khan was a nasty person, Starman
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  Speaker 2: didn't join in the laughter. He didn't grin like a
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  Speaker 2: schoolboy who'd just been noticed by the cool kid. He
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  Speaker 2: did what leaders are supposed to do, you defend your mate. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Elbow just stood there giggling while Trump carved up his
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  Speaker 2: ambassador like a Christmas ham. And while we're on the
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  Speaker 2: subject of Anthony Elbanezi, have a look at this exchange.
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  Speaker 4: I have to give it serious consideration. No, it's a
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  Speaker 4: real possible.
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  Speaker 7: Did and perhaps we could time.
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  Speaker 2: It must be said with the President's cup that Australia
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  Speaker 2: as well, where.
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  Speaker 7: We'll organize.
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  Speaker 2: As President Elberzi was gushing, practically begging Trump to visit Australia.
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  Speaker 2: They don't call him each way elbow for nothing. It's
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  Speaker 2: only a few months ago that Anthony Albanesi and his
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  Speaker 2: labor mates were treating any association with Donald Trump like
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  Speaker 2: it was some kind of virus or character flaw. Remember
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  Speaker 2: how quickly they jumped on justinter Namper Jipper Price for
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  Speaker 2: having once been photographed in a magahat. Remember how they
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  Speaker 2: accused Dutton of having taken advice from a member of
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  Speaker 2: Trump's team, as if Dutton was dancing with the devil.
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  Speaker 2: Education Minister Jason Clair once branded Dutton's policies as extreme.
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  Speaker 3: And reminiscent of Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But now, well, now Anthony Alberanze's wiping Trump's boots with
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  Speaker 2: his own tie.
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  Speaker 3: We'll organized a trip to Australia for you missed. The President.
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  Speaker 2: Elbanezi even said he would use Trump's praise of him
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  Speaker 2: in his next election advertising campaign. It's breathtaking, not because
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  Speaker 2: it's bold, but because it's brazenly so inconceit. At least
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd, bless his sanctimonious heart stood by his anti
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  Speaker 2: Trump rants and took the hit like a man now stupid,
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  Speaker 2: with the coalition in hindsight to run like scared rabbits
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  Speaker 2: at any association with Trump, only to leave Elbanezi to
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  Speaker 2: embrace Donald Trump just months later.
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  Speaker 3: Well, to give us.
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  Speaker 2: More insight into the meeting between Antony Albanesi and US
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  Speaker 2: President Donald Trump, I'm joined by former White House Press
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  Speaker 2: Secretary Sean Spicer. Sean, many of us here in Australia
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  Speaker 2: were expecting some kind of blow up from this meeting,
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  Speaker 2: but it all seems to have gone very very well.
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  Speaker 7: I'm glad you're not the only one.
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  Speaker 5: I was telling people to keep an eye on this
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  Speaker 5: meeting when I saw about it on the schedule, based
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  Speaker 5: on some of the Prime Minister's previous commerce regarding President Trump.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't sure how this thing was going to go,
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  Speaker 5: whether he was going to bring something up, whether President
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  Speaker 5: Trump would bring something up. But I think that your
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  Speaker 5: team there around, uh around the Prime Minister did a
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  Speaker 5: good job because he came and played it really well.
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  Speaker 7: I think maybe he had seen the Zelensky movie and.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't want to repeat of that, but I will
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  Speaker 5: say that it not only was a good uh, good
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  Speaker 5: diplomatically because I I share that concern. I was very
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  Speaker 5: wonder which which prime minister was going to show up,
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  Speaker 5: the one that likes to talk about Donald Trump or
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  Speaker 5: the one that understands what's good for both countries.
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  Speaker 7: And and I think that it wasn't just a good meeting,
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  Speaker 7: but it was a great meeting.
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  Speaker 5: The deal that was had is going to benefit both countries, uh,
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  Speaker 5: and not just our two countries. But I think put
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  Speaker 5: a good check against China and it's and and the
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  Speaker 5: threat that.
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  Speaker 7: It poses UH the world at large.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was very complementary of our prime minister, calling
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  Speaker 2: him a great prime minister, despite what we all know
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  Speaker 2: major differences of ideology and policy on climate change, Palestine,
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  Speaker 2: hou Sinceries Trump. When he praises Elbanezy as a friend
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  Speaker 2: and as a great leader, is that genuine or is
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  Speaker 2: that just something Trump does in order to smooth the
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  Speaker 2: path for negotiations and deals.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's a saying in American baseball that you're
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  Speaker 5: only as good as your last at bat, and I
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  Speaker 5: believe that you're only as good as your last comment
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  Speaker 5: or meeting with Donald Trump when you're a foreign leader.
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  Speaker 5: And so this one went well, and I think that
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  Speaker 5: they got along well, they accomplished a great deal for
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  Speaker 5: our two countries.
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  Speaker 7: But you're only as good as your last meeting.
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  Speaker 5: So I think if the Prime Minister were to kind
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  Speaker 5: of go off Q off script to start making some comments,
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  Speaker 5: that that description of him from President Trump would change
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  Speaker 5: awful quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, while our prime minister got through the meeting unscathed,
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  Speaker 2: our ambassador Kevin Rudd not quite so fortunate.
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  Speaker 3: Let me play the exchange for you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know anything about him.
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  Speaker 9: If you said bad, then maybe he'll like to apologize.
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  Speaker 4: I really don't know. Did an ambassador to say something
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  Speaker 4: about don't tell me where is he? Yes, you said bad.
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  Speaker 8: Before I took his positions to President.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't like you either. I don't and it
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  Speaker 4: probably never will.
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  Speaker 3: Sewan.
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  Speaker 2: What's that old expression many a truth is said in jest?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what's going on here?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, I I've been part of those briefings.
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  Speaker 5: There's no question that President Trump was well aware of
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  Speaker 5: the previous prime minister and your current ambassador's comments about him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't I think that while the Prime minister, the
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  Speaker 5: current Prime minister that is.
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  Speaker 7: Probably through this deal, and through this.
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  Speaker 5: Office deal that we have on submarines and other defense
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  Speaker 5: sort of issues, probably can manage to salvage this relationship.
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  Speaker 5: I would argue that that Ambassador Rudd, former Prime Minister Rudd,
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  Speaker 5: is probably not going to fare too well during his
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  Speaker 5: tenure here in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Well, our opposition leader has immediately called for to be sacked,
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  Speaker 2: saying his position is untenable.
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  Speaker 3: Here she was this morning.
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  Speaker 7: It's a bit awkward, isn't it.
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  Speaker 11: It's taken nearly a year to get this meeting, and
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  Speaker 11: that's been.
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  Speaker 7: A failure of the ambassador. And when the ambassador.
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  Speaker 11: Is the punchline of the joke and the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 11: is actually laughing at him, I think that tells us
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  Speaker 11: all we need to know about the fact that it's
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  Speaker 11: probably not reasonable that he continue in the role. To
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  Speaker 11: see the Prime Minister actually laughing at his own ambassador
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  Speaker 11: in the room when the President made a joke.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's untenable.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I take our opposition leader's point, but isn't the
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  Speaker 2: counter argument that Rudd has been the ambassador this long,
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  Speaker 2: he helped to organize the meeting.
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  Speaker 3: The meeting went very well.
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  Speaker 2: There are a few words between himself and Trump, but
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of laughed off.
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  Speaker 3: He survived, he carries on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that would be the best interpretation of
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  Speaker 5: that exchange.
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  Speaker 7: But I agree with the opposition leader.
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  Speaker 5: Book for the country as important as Australia, and I
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  Speaker 5: was there up close during the first term. I've praised
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  Speaker 5: your previous ambassador, Joe Hockey. I've talked about some of
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  Speaker 5: your previous prime ministers. They enjoyed a much closer relationship
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  Speaker 5: with the President. So as I said, the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 5: I think is clearly through this minerals deal, salvaging the
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  Speaker 5: relationship that exists. But when your job as ambassador is
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  Speaker 5: to be the representative of the government and it's pretty
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  Speaker 5: clear that you have no relationship with the current administration,
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  Speaker 5: I would agree with the Opposition leader because it's not
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  Speaker 5: that you're just a joke, but you're patently ineffective. And
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  Speaker 5: it's the rest of the administration, the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: Trump administration saw that exchange, which they all did to
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  Speaker 5: be honest with you, I mean, just to be clear,
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  Speaker 5: then your effectiveness in Washington, d C. Representing Australia is
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  Speaker 5: pretty minimal.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, look, you.
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  Speaker 5: Could stay, but it's pretty obvious that your only thing
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  Speaker 5: that you're known for in Washington, d C. Is hosting
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  Speaker 5: a tennis tournament with CNN.
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  Speaker 2: And Kevin Rudd is quite famous for his ego. I
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  Speaker 2: can't imagine how he dealt with the entire room laughing
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  Speaker 2: at him.
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  Speaker 3: Let's move on from that.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to tell me about the No King's
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  Speaker 2: protests across the US at the weekend. These were lefty
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  Speaker 2: protests against s Donald Trump, accusing him of trying to
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  Speaker 2: make himself a king.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right?
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  Speaker 5: Here's the funny thing about the No King's rally and
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  Speaker 5: this threat to democracy.
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  Speaker 7: In Washington.
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  Speaker 5: They held the protest on the National Mall, and we
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  Speaker 5: in America are in the middle of a government shutdown,
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  Speaker 5: a shutdown that when Barack Obama was president, closed the
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  Speaker 5: National Mall. So this so called king that they think
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  Speaker 5: is president right now, allowed the National Mall to be
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  Speaker 5: opened to be used so that people who wanted to
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  Speaker 5: exercise their first amendment under a constitution to express their
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  Speaker 5: displeasure with the current president that was duly elected. The
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  Speaker 5: so called king allowed them to have that happen. That
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  Speaker 5: would be a pretty bad thing for a king to do.
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  Speaker 5: That so called undermines democracy. So again, the irony of
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  Speaker 5: how this all happened and what it meant to me
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: is so lost, and so many people are in the left,
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  Speaker 5: in the legacy media here in the States.
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  Speaker 3: Some of it was just laughable.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, his Nancy Pelosi ripping a paper crown in half.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look, I'm going to tear up the crown.
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  Speaker 2: But Sean, some of it was just downright disturbing. I
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  Speaker 2: would say, evil, have a listened to this woman?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So for a.
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  Speaker 7: Birthday President, what do you hope happens? You know, you
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  Speaker 7: wake up tomorrow morning, I.
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  Speaker 12: Hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting
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  Speaker 12: for tomorrow. That's what I hope for.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you wishing that President Trump is dead?
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  Speaker 10: Yes?
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  Speaker 13: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, Sean.
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  Speaker 2: I really do not understand these people at all. Do
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  Speaker 2: you look at your own country sometimes and think what
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  Speaker 2: the hell?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely like the idea that we've gone from having two
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  Speaker 5: sides that disagree on policy to one side that calls
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you think about it, this is what they're
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  Speaker 5: saying about President Trump. We've got a candidate for attorney
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  Speaker 5: general where I live in Virginia that openly bragged about
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: wanting to shoot his political opponent and then watch the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: mother of his children have them suffer in her arms.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And then you've got the candidate for Senate in Maine
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: who made some unbelievably racist comments and then talked about
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: how in AK forty seven is sometimes the only way
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: to solve problems.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: This is the current state of the Democratic Party.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: They don't like to admit it or talk about it,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, every time, I mean,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: let me just take you back if I can. When
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: the election was occurring four years ago, the current in
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: government governor of Virginia, guy named Ralph Northam, got caught
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: with blackface, and all the Democrats denounced him and said
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: that he stepped down as governor. So we've gone from
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: a guy who wears blackface should step down as the
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: governor of Virginia to a guy running for attorney general
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: talking about putting bullets in the head of his political opponent,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: and a big collective yawn from Theocratic Party, including the
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: head of the Democratic National Committee. The Democrats have spiraled
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: downward in the last four or five years to a
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: place that I never thought i'd see in this country.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Sean Spicer always enjoyed to catch up with you. Thanks
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: so much for your time.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: Thanks Jeeves.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break, but coming up.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Uncertainty still hangs over some Nationals MPs regarding their future
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: in the party as they are tempted by One Nation plus.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Senior Liberals put their heads together to agree on an
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: energy policy which they think could finally end the division,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: gripping the party. All of that with National Senator Matt
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Canavan after this well welcome back to the program. Uncertainty
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: continues regarding the future of Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: whether he'll jump ship to Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: In a press conference today, he thanked his electorate of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: New England and doubled down on his desire to have
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: net zero scrapped, an issue which could prove a sticking
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: point for a handful of other Nationals members. Here's some
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: of what Barnaby Joyce had to say earlier today.
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: I want an authentic removal from net zero, not some
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: tricky it's a little way that you're sort of out
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: and you're sort of in and possibly in the future
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: maybe get back. It's not like that, you know, we've
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: got to be authentic.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is National Senator Matt Canavan. Matt, do
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you believe Barnaby Joyce will jump ship?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Look? I hope not. I don't know. I don't think
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: he knows yet.
• 20:37
  Speaker 14: This news has broken in a way that I don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 14: think Barnaby expected or planned, and so he's considering matters
• 20:45
  Speaker 14: and I very much want to keep him in the team.
• 20:47
  Speaker 14: As I've said the last few days, I do think
• 20:50
  Speaker 14: Barnaby's the best retail politician in the country, and of
• 20:53
  Speaker 14: course you'd like to keep someone like that in your team.
• 20:57
  Speaker 14: He's contributed massively to the Nationals Party. I've been inundated
• 21:00
  Speaker 14: with messages from Nationals Party members right across the country
• 21:04
  Speaker 14: who have so much love for Barnaby and are quite
• 21:07
  Speaker 14: saddened at the prospect that he might leave the party.
• 21:09
  Speaker 14: But as Barnaby has said, he has not left the
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: party just yet. He has had a breakdown his relationship
• 21:16
  Speaker 14: with the parliamentary leadership of the Nationals Party. I very
• 21:19
  Speaker 14: much hope that can be repaired. Sometimes relations ships do
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: hit rocky ground and they can recover.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm working very hard to do that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: What would it take do you think for the relationship
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to recover.
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: Look, I mean, I can only go on what Barnaby
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: has said. As I have said earlier, I try not
• 21:41
  Speaker 14: to navigate Barnaby's mind.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It's a difficult place to get out of.
• 21:44
  Speaker 14: But he has said yeah, clearly need zero is a
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: massive sticking point. I can understand that I've been banging
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: my head up against that brick wall for four years.
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: It'd be nice if we can finally have a debate
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: in the joint party room about it. We go back
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: to Camberra next week. Obviously, there's the relationship I mentioned
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: earlier with the Nationals Party leadership. Another thing I have
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: been I've been speaking to Dave a little proud as well,
• 22:05
  Speaker 14: our leader, and I'd just love to see some role
• 22:09
  Speaker 14: for our former leaders, both Barnaby and Michael, to have
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: their skills and experience.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Used for the party.
• 22:17
  Speaker 14: We're very lucky to have two statesmen really, who have
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: been through so much of our country's history. That experience
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: sitting on the backbench without specific roles or opportunities is
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: a little bit.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Of a waste, you say, and I agree with you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that Barnaby Joyce is probably the best retail politician in
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the country. You also say you've been inundated with messages
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: from people upset that Barnaby might leave. Taking all that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: into account, how stupid was it of the National's leadership
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to demand Barnaby stay in his own seat and not
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: campaign anywhere else during the last election.
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: Look, I don't know the specific circumstances around that, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: if that was the edict that was put out, I
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: do think it's highly regrettable and self defeating.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you need to look at the scoreboard.
• 23:09
  Speaker 14: We didn't do well at the election and not say
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: not saying Barnaby alone could have turned that around. But
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: there's no doubt in previous election fights he's been an
• 23:18
  Speaker 14: enormously valuable asset. I'm sitting here in rock Hampton and
• 23:21
  Speaker 14: we probably would have lost the seat of rock Hampton
• 23:23
  Speaker 14: in twenty sixteen if it wasn't for Barnaby's retail politics,
• 23:27
  Speaker 14: for his fight to get funding for the hospital car
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: park here. A small issue, but it's something that's benefit
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: of the people of rock Hampton for a decade since,
• 23:34
  Speaker 14: and they rightfully I think re elected Michelle Andanry to
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: do that that seat. That seat saved the Termbal government
• 23:39
  Speaker 14: in the twenty sixteen election was a seventy sixth seat
• 23:41
  Speaker 14: we got.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So look, that person.
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: With that sort of experience, that ability to cut through
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: just a total waste keeping us keeping him on the bench.
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: I mean it's like it's like the Brisbane Broncos keeping
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: Rys Walsh on the bench for the Grand Final. Absurd
• 23:56
  Speaker 14: and that's what we did during the election.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: So Barnaby's threat to leave over net zero.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I spoke with that National's MP from Wide Bay, Lou
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: O'Brien last night, who said that he would join One
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Nation if the Nationals fail to ditch net zero.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Have you spoken to Low O'Brien, yep.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I speak to Lou all the time.
• 24:20
  Speaker 14: He's great blake, great friend, and just like Barnaby, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: very much hope he stays part of our team. Let
• 24:27
  Speaker 14: him speak for himself on his future, but I, too,
• 24:31
  Speaker 14: like him, would like to see us dump net zero.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: How many National MPs do you think are weighing up
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: their futures over this particular issue.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 14: I've spoken to a lot of my colleagues in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: last few days. I think we're all very committed to
• 24:50
  Speaker 14: see us get on the front foot on constructive policy discussion.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're there in Campberra.
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: When we do go back to camper next week, we're
• 24:57
  Speaker 14: in Cambrira to do things, to take action, liver results
• 25:01
  Speaker 14: for the ISTRAM people. Are not there to do a
• 25:02
  Speaker 14: Trea tise on clappic classical liberalism. It's not a French
• 25:05
  Speaker 14: so long in the Australian Parliament, it is a place
• 25:08
  Speaker 14: or should be a place of action. And so in
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: the next fortnight, I hope we take action to take
• 25:14
  Speaker 14: up the fight against this net zero policy which is
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: costing Australian as an arm and a leg. It is
• 25:18
  Speaker 14: costing us our manufacturing industry, and it's putting at risk
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: a nation security as we've seen today with the now rush.
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: Need to do something about critical minerals and rare earths
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: when those industries have been going at the back door
• 25:31
  Speaker 14: in this country because we have been burdening in them
• 25:34
  Speaker 14: with a high power, higher power prices and needed thanks
• 25:36
  Speaker 14: to our NT zero agenda. So that's what I'll be
• 25:39
  Speaker 14: focused on in the next couple of weeks. I know
• 25:41
  Speaker 14: my colleagues are focused on that too, and I'm looking
• 25:43
  Speaker 14: forward to getting back down there and seeing them well.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Senior liberals are focused on it as well, because they
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: obviously want to keep the coalition together. Reportedly some have
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: met and come to some sort of consensus over the
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: party's energy policy going forward. It's reported they're considering support.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I think that zero is a kind of an aspirational goal,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: but without any mandated targets, it seems to me that
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: would be the weakest of all responses, would it not.
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: Well, I don't think it's consensus. I've spoken to plenty
• 26:13
  Speaker 14: of members of the Liberal Party in the last few
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: days as well, and that's certainly not the view of
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: some that I've spoken to. So we'll wait and see
• 26:19
  Speaker 14: what happens in those discussions too. But look, it's tricky idea.
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: It's trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
• 26:26
  Speaker 14: It's like a hokey pokey trying to put one foot in,
• 26:28
  Speaker 14: one foot out.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't think people want that. I don't think
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's strained.
• 26:31
  Speaker 14: People want politicians who say one thing in the city
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: and a different thing in the bush. We want people
• 26:36
  Speaker 14: to be upfront, and I think we're only We'll only
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: defeat this terrible labor government by being very clear about
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: what we stand for and how things will be better
• 26:45
  Speaker 14: under a liberal national government, and so I think things
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: will be better if we have a government in Canberra
• 26:49
  Speaker 14: that prioritizes the prioritizes low er power prices for Australians
• 26:55
  Speaker 14: ahead of ahead of trying to win global applause by
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: cutting our emissions. Our country has been cutting our emissions
• 27:02
  Speaker 14: faster than the rest of the world, indeed faster than
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: rich countries in the rest of the world, and that
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: has meant that we are paying a higher price for
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: global emission cuts than the rest of the world for
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: no environmental benefit. So my view is, which is going
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: to be very clear, what are our priorities. I think
• 27:18
  Speaker 14: the priorities for our country, for the leaders of our
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: nation should be to look after austrains, should be keep
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: our manufacturing industry and most importantly of all, bring down
• 27:25
  Speaker 14: prices for people.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous how much.
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: Things are costing in this country right now, from a
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: cup of coffee to a concrete poor for a new home,
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: those things are all being impacted by the ridiculously high
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: energy prices we have in this country, despite having some
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: of the highest amounts of energy resources per person in
• 27:42
  Speaker 14: the world.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And Matt if your party didn't hold to those principles.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Would you consider joining a party that did.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: No, I've said I won't.
• 27:53
  Speaker 14: Look, I'm just very honored in privilege to represent the
• 27:57
  Speaker 14: party members that have put me here. I'm in a
• 27:59
  Speaker 14: bit of a different position as a senator to when
• 28:02
  Speaker 14: you get elected in the Senate. You are elected by
• 28:05
  Speaker 14: people who have ticked the LMP box above the line.
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: They haven't ticked the Matt Canavan box. So I want
• 28:10
  Speaker 14: to retain faith to those Queenslanders, hundreds of thousands of
• 28:13
  Speaker 14: Queenslanders who voted for the MP party. So I will
• 28:17
  Speaker 14: do my best to fight against this net zero scam
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: within my own party. But it's the NATS or bust
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: for me.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Very quickly, before I let you go, your thoughts on
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Albaneze's meeting with Donald Trump will start with Rudd quickly?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Should he remain the ambassador? And do you think he
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: will remain the ambassador?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't really care. At one level.
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: I think Kevin's a bit of a fringe political player.
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: Now he's passed it, It's.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Not my major concern I do.
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: I am a little concern though, by the seemingly lack
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: of relationship he has with the President and presumably the
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: President's a senior team look in saying that maybe it
• 29:01
  Speaker 14: was made up afterwards. Look, I think what's much more
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: important here is that Anthony Albanesi delivers. He's signed this
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: agreement now, and it's great that's built on I mean,
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: I've signed the first critical minerals agreement with the Trump
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: administration the first term in twenty nineteen. It's great to
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: see these further developments, and it's great to see the
• 29:17
  Speaker 14: premise to promise to slash red tape for our critical
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: minerals processes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But what's more important is that he slash.
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: Energy prices because we've despite saying he wants a critical
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: mineral's renaissance here in this country, the Prime Minister has
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: presided over the nickel industry leaving our shores.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: We've lost it completely.
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: We's presided over our copper, our steel, our aluminium industries,
• 29:38
  Speaker 14: all needing massive taxpayer funded bailouts just to stay alive.
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: And a big reason for why this is happening is
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: because power prices have gone up forty percent under Anthony
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: Albanese's watch. So how about he delivers that. I mean,
• 29:50
  Speaker 14: slashing red tape is great, but when you're in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 14: business of heavy manufacturing, heavy metallurgy. There is nothing more
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: important than having competitive energy prices. And we just don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 14: compete against China right now because we send them out Cole.
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: We send them our gas, but we don't use it ourselves.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: All roads lead back to ditching net zero. Matt Canavan,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: appreciate you doing tonight, Thanks so much. We're going to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: go to a break, but stick around. Coming up, how
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: does Anthony Albinzi rank when it comes to his foreign
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: policy decision making? Generally plus, A graveyard for unsold Chinese
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: evs has been discovered on the south side of Sydney.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: All of that with my panel after the break. Well,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: parents know where coming to the end of the year,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and that means children will receive their grade.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So I thought it might be time to grade.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: The Prime minister's foreign policy performance. To help me, I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: joined by Hard Markers, Sky News contributor Will Kingston and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: my good friend and fellow SKY News host.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Danika Di Giorgio. Welcome to you both.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Now I'm wondering if either of you will be as
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: generous as Liberal MP Tim Wilson, who today reckon the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: PM deserved a C plus.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Take a listen.
• 31:02
  Speaker 15: I give the Prime Minister, probably about a C plus
• 31:04
  Speaker 15: at the moment, and in foreign policy, because I don't
• 31:07
  Speaker 15: look at solely in isolation of this issue. I look
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: at in terms of the fact that he basically changed
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: bipartisan policy around our allies in the Middle East. On
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: the precipice of peace breaking out. He made the very
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: wrong decision incentivizing civilians being used as weapons and targets
• 31:26
  Speaker 15: in the Middle East. He's made some correct decisions, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: I think he's on balance getting things wrong because he's
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: trying to appease domestic political constituencies at the expense of
• 31:37
  Speaker 15: the national interest.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Will Albaneze gets a C plus from Tim Wilson.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Is that about rights? Do you think?
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: No, it's not. As a president. As a preface, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: will say I'm thrilled to have Tanika back on Tuesday nights.
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: Joe Hildebrand is one of the world's great blokes. But
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: it's good to have the dream team back together. So
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: welcome back to Anika. My thoughts are that this is
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: the smart kid in an exam who's just answered the
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: wrong question. What, really, at the end of the day,
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: does the Middle East have to do with Australia. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: know it has a lot to do with labor idea
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: logues who want to free Palace sign but really, at
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: the end of the day, the game is China, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: we are woefully underprepared for a looming conflict with China,
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: which I think, unfortunately is more likely than not before
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: the decade is out. There are a few people beating
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: the drum on this. Tony Abbott has been very strong
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: on this. People like Mick Ryan have been very strong
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: on this. I think there is a very good chance
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: that China will make a play for Taiwan, whether that's
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: boots on the ground or whether that is a blockade
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: of some sort, before the decade is out. You know what,
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: we won't be thinking about Russia. We won't be thinking
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: about Gazo at that time. We'll be thinking about our backyard,
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: and we are woefully underprepared. We've got subs that you
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: in about the twenty nineties or something fifty or sixty
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: years away, but we are so underinvested in our military.
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: So look, in terms of you know, the Middle East,
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: are fine. I don't really care. But it's the wrong
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: question to be answering. The right question is are we
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: prepared for the imminent threat in our region and the
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: obvious answers.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: We are not Janika.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: If you had to grade the PM's performance on the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: world stage, I know you're a hard marker.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: What are you going to give him?
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I might.
• 33:33
  Speaker 13: I look, I would give him a D now. Back
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: when I was at school, James, if you got an
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: AB or C, it was a pass mark. So I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 13: going to give him a D because it just fails.
• 33:46
  Speaker 13: And I'll give you three examples why of recent examples,
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: One he and Penny Wong betrayed our values for votes
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: on the world stage in recognizing a Palestinian state. They
• 33:57
  Speaker 13: literally fell over themselves at the United Nations. And while
• 34:01
  Speaker 13: they were doing that, Donald Trump was actually working on
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: a deal to broke a piece. So that got them
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: nowhere to Anthony Albanezi recently went to China and it
• 34:11
  Speaker 13: was more like a Kentiquy tour, to be honest. He
• 34:12
  Speaker 13: was there with pandas posing alongside the Great Wall. The
• 34:16
  Speaker 13: Chinese military band played a bit of midnight oil for
• 34:19
  Speaker 13: him and that won him over. And where did that
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: get him?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Nowhere?
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: Over the weekend, a Chinese military jet let off flares
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: next to one of Ouraf aircraft. And thirdly, a couple
• 34:30
  Speaker 13: of weeks ago he was masquerading around the Pacific and
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: two security deals failed. Now granted, when he came back
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: the p ANDNG one was signed, but the reality is
• 34:40
  Speaker 13: he couldn't get it over the line when he was
• 34:43
  Speaker 13: on the world stage. Now, I will say this US visit,
• 34:46
  Speaker 13: sure it's been a success for him. I'm sure he's
• 34:48
  Speaker 13: breathing a sigh of relief that UCAS has gotten over
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: the line. But one successful foreign policy moment out of
• 34:55
  Speaker 13: all these years, I give him a D.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: James, all right, it's sexually better than research.
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: To add to that, it's not that hard to actually
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: get a decent mark with Trump. Now you've just got
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: to kiss the ring, bend over, and basically smile and
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: say nothing like Stariner has built this playbook. This fits
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: Elbow perfectly because he is a thicko and so he
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: just needs to be thick and pleasant and polite, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: that actually will serve him well in terms of foreign policy.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: So I'll agree with the Nigas D. But I don't
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: think it was a particularly hard exam question.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: All Right, you don't need to grade Victorian Premier just
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: into Ellen's performance, But I'm curious what you.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Make of the way she manipulates the media.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: In response to violent protests at the weekend, she announced
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: her government is going to ban protesters from wearing face
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: masks or from chaining themselves to things.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Have a listen.
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: And that is why, in addition to the existing powers
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: that Victoria Police have powers to move people on should
• 35:56
  Speaker 16: they be compromising the community safety of others, the powers
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: that Victoria Police has through being able to designate areas
• 36:03
  Speaker 16: like they did yesterday to deal with people on the spot,
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: we are going to expand those police powers with new
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: laws to deal with people who are cloaking themselves under
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: masks to perform violent apps under the cloak of a protest.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: She announced these new laws last December and simply hasn't
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: done anything about them. But now she announces them with
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: a promise that she is going to eventually introduce them
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: into Parliament, as if she's doing something new. Will this
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: is just treating the public with contempt, does it not?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 10: I would say so. It's the right decision. I think
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: if you were going to protest.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Was the right decision last December.
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: Exactly right? And what makes you think why she has
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: delayed it? And the only reason I can think of
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: is the Gaza conflict is now hopefully winding down and
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: so therefore, as a result of that, there will be
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: less protests on the streets of Melbourne unless Garza protesters
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: wearing masks. So I think this is an act of
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: political cowardice, as you can add contempt into the mix,
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: but really I think this is an active of political cowardice,
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: albeit the right outcome at the end.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Well, Danika, the reason she gave for the delay introducing
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: these laws to Parliament was that consideration and care had
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to be taken to protect the rights of protesters. Do
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you have the right to wear a mask or the
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: right to glue yourself to the road?
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just laughable.
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: Look, you know, honestly, she is treating Victorians with such contempt, James,
• 37:39
  Speaker 13: and she must think that they're all mugs.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: What sort of a message does that send to.
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: The every day and the majority of Victorians who are
• 37:47
  Speaker 13: good law abiding citizens who have absolutely had a gutfull
• 37:51
  Speaker 13: of the CBD being taken over week in week out
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: by these protesters. They don't feel safe in their own
• 37:57
  Speaker 13: city and Justina Allen says, oh, well, you know I
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: said this twelve months ago.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm revisiting.
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: She's an absolute coward, that woman. And I also think
• 38:06
  Speaker 13: it's very convenient of the labor government over there. They
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: only intervene in protests when.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: It suits them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: But look what they did, for example, during the mass
• 38:14
  Speaker 13: migration protests. They were all happy to intervene in that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 13: What about the lockdown protests during COVID They intervene into that.
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: They intervene when it suits them politically, but when it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 13: on a topic that doesn't, they don't want to touch
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: it at all. And you know what, it's also police
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: James as we know that are fed up as well
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: that one of the senior commanders held up a box
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: of rocks on Sunday after they were being pelted by
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: far left protesters. So Victoria, unfortunately the premier has not
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: got any control over that state whatsoever.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Well, she's not the only premier in the country who's
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: afraid of touching certain issues. Consider the Premier of South Australia,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: who continues to downplay the issue of male prisoners who
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: identify as women being held in feeble sells have a
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: listened to his dismissive attitude today.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: As I've said on this previously, I'm happy to repeat it,
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: and I think it sort of highlights where things are
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: at now where less than six months away from the
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: next satelection. I'm here today focusing on one of the
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: major economic pillars that will underpin prosperity for future generations,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: and Vincentazi is obsessing about transgender prisoner arrangements, and that
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I think tells you everything you need to know about
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: the relevant focus of the two potential parties of government.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: What that tells me, Will is that the South Australian
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Premier camp multitask no.
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: What it tells me is that if a male sexually
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: assaults a female in a female prison, then that is
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: on his hands. How hard is this to say that
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: a woman is like a by you know, is an
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: adult human. A woman is an adult human female.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: The UK, where I'm currently.
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: In, has got to this point, the US has got
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: to this. I love, you know, I'm a patriotic Australian.
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: I love Australia, but I'm so worried that we are
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: five years behind on the most basic question that a
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: man cannot be a woman. It is so ridiculous. It's stupid.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: And how you can have cowardice of this level from
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: a leader of.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: A state is unbelievable.
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: And how he can just push it away to say, well,
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: it's a cultural wars issue is wrong because there are
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: definite consequences when women are in men go into women's
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: change rooms, men go into women's prisons, and women feel unsafe,
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: which they have no right of where to have every
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: right feel safe. I think it's.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Disgusting, Deniker.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I'm curious as to how you heard that, because it
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: sounded to me like he was saying building infrastructure is
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: more important than the niche issue of, you know, women's safety.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: As a woman.
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: James, I find this whole narrative highly offensive. By saying
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: it's a niche issue is basically saying I do not
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: care about women's rights. So while he's out there saying this,
• 41:08
  Speaker 13: one of the prisoners, a female prisoner, told the Australian
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: newspaper today. She detailed about how she was forced to
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: lie in bed with a transgender inmate who was lying
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: next to her naked. And bear in mind a lot
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: of these women in these jails have also experienced sexual
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: assault in their lives. They deserve to have a safe space.
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: But the problem, the overarching issue, and this is across
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: the board, is that in twenty thirteen, Julia Gillard amended
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: the Sex Discrimination Act and she removed the definitions of
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: a man and a woman. So we've got premiers across
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: the country they don't know what a woman is, so
• 41:42
  Speaker 13: how can you look after women?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, Deanika.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Always great to talk to you both, Will Kingston the
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Nika to Georgio, thanks for joining me tonight. We're going
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: to go to a break, but when we come back,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Michael Danby will join me to talk about whether or
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: not peace in the Middle East is going to last.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has a stark warning for Hamas, plus the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Chinese accused our air force of provoking them. Michael Danby
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: in a moment, Well, there are now real questions about
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: whether the Middle East peace deal, which took effect eleven
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: days ago, will actually last. Hamas have repeatedly broken the
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: terms of the deal, from failing to return all the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: hostages to killing IDF soldiers in a clear violation of
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the ceasefire. They've also embarked on a series of revenge
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: killings against Gazans joining me now as former chair of
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Michael Danby Michael, getting
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the living hostages back was always the priority here. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: think I suppose anything beyond that is a bonus.
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: It is.
• 42:45
  Speaker 17: I think it's removed all of Hamas's leverage. It may
• 42:50
  Speaker 17: be messy, but the Israeli army will enforce this ceasefire
• 42:55
  Speaker 17: if Hamas persists with these provocations and seeing more than thirty,
• 43:01
  Speaker 17: maybe fifty Palestinians executed or beaten to death by these
• 43:06
  Speaker 17: hummus thugs. Where are all of the protesters, Where are
• 43:09
  Speaker 17: all of these hypocrites who claim to care about the Palestinians.
• 43:13
  Speaker 17: But the asraellers will do what they're doing in Lebanon
• 43:15
  Speaker 17: now there are no life hostages there, and they will
• 43:19
  Speaker 17: go back. And if these people put their heads above
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: the parapet, they are going to see the expression mow
• 43:27
  Speaker 17: the lawn continue to happen.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump says he wants to give Hamas the chance
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to honor the ceasefire, though he's warned the fresh that
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: if they continue breaking the deal, they'll be trouble.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Here's what he said today.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: We made a deal with Hamas that you know, they're
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: going to be very good. They're going to behave, they're
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: going to be naice, and if they're not, we're going
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: to go and we're going to eradicate them. If we
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: have to, don't be eradicated.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And they know that, Michael, do you get the feeling
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Trump knows what's going to have to happen. He's just
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: trying to make it such that the whole world will
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: be under no illusion that there is no other way
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: than to go in there and do what needs to
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: be done.
• 44:08
  Speaker 17: He's also got an ego and he doesn't want his
• 44:10
  Speaker 17: plan undone if it can be helped, but it's going
• 44:13
  Speaker 17: to be undone because these people are barbarians humas. He's
• 44:18
  Speaker 17: also got humas by the Kokanes as they say in
• 44:22
  Speaker 17: Qatar and Turkey, because they can't move outside those countries,
• 44:27
  Speaker 17: and those countries need Trump and the international leadership of
• 44:32
  Speaker 17: Hamasa dead men as well, so they twitch and Trump
• 44:37
  Speaker 17: will unleash the IDF.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Now I know you're dying to give me your thoughts
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: on that extraordinary meeting between Albanezi and Donald Trump and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd. It was kind of a triangle when you
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: watch that extraordinary vision today.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: What did you think, Well, I agree with you.
• 44:59
  Speaker 17: I don't think you'll be moved. I think the big
• 45:02
  Speaker 17: issue for Australia always is our relationship with the United
• 45:05
  Speaker 17: States and the fact that despite all of Albow and
• 45:08
  Speaker 17: Rudd's passed incantations against Donald Trump, the fact that the
• 45:14
  Speaker 17: meeting went relatively well is the big picture. It's hilarious
• 45:19
  Speaker 17: the Trump Roight interaction. Kevin should have brushed his hair
• 45:23
  Speaker 17: before he went in there too. But if it's true
• 45:27
  Speaker 17: that he apologized to the Donald afterwards and Donald said
• 45:31
  Speaker 17: all is forgiven, there is a narrow way out of this.
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: So one thing I have to concede to him, James
• 45:40
  Speaker 17: is he's assiduous. No one's ever accused him of being
• 45:43
  Speaker 17: lazy Rudd, and while Alba was sitting on the island,
• 45:46
  Speaker 17: he was working the corridors and getting this critical minerals
• 45:49
  Speaker 17: deal signed. They didn't say anything about forcing Australia via
• 45:53
  Speaker 17: defense expenditure, nor commit to the Taiwanese. The Taiwanese have
• 45:58
  Speaker 17: a bit slack in looking after their own defense budget,
• 46:02
  Speaker 17: so people are a bit weak on that. So the
• 46:06
  Speaker 17: big picture is he survived it. I think Rudd will
• 46:09
  Speaker 17: survive it as well, and it's good for Australia. As
• 46:13
  Speaker 17: your other commentators, including Matt Canavan said before.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Taiwan and of course China.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the Chinese government using
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: their state media today to accuse Australia of infringing on
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: their territory and causing provocation. This is after a Chinese
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: fighter jet led off flares dangerously close to an RBLEF
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: plane which was flying in international airspace over the South
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: China Sea. What does this say about the special relationship
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Anthony Albaneze has carved out with jijingping that these things
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: keep happening and that when we say hey, play fair,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: we're accused of being the provocateurs.
• 46:53
  Speaker 17: Communists Obviously, like the Chinese, have no understanding of the
• 46:57
  Speaker 17: meaning of the word hutzpa. They can say make these
• 47:01
  Speaker 17: attacks on Australia, who obviously has less leverage on them
• 47:05
  Speaker 17: than Elbow thinks we have. They want to turn the
• 47:09
  Speaker 17: vast South China Sea, where sixty percent of Australia's maritime
• 47:13
  Speaker 17: trade transits, and which was declared an international ocean by
• 47:17
  Speaker 17: the International Court of Arbitration, into their version of the
• 47:22
  Speaker 17: English Channel. It's not, and that's why US and other
• 47:26
  Speaker 17: Western allies must continually assert our rights over there, because
• 47:29
  Speaker 17: if we don't, this vast ocean connecting Australia to Korea, Japan,
• 47:35
  Speaker 17: Ti I, and even China will be denied to us
• 47:38
  Speaker 17: by the Chinese Navy.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's why it's so incredibly important. Hey, just
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: before we go, Michael, you know, the other thing about
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: that Trump meeting that just occurred to me is Kevin
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Rudd was getting absolutely smashed for comments he'd made previously
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump, and sitting right beside him laughing was
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a man who's also got a pretty poor track record
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: of speaking badly about Donald Trump.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: But there you go, Albin Easie got away with it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me, Michael Dabe.
• 48:06
  Speaker 17: No irony or hypocrisy and politics that you can't believe.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Will have none, none at all. Thanks Michael Dandy for
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: joining me. Well, that's all I've got time for tonight
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: stick around. Coming up right now is Sharry Markson Good
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Night