Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI SCROLL: Cody Ko says 'Sorry' via DJ set, Chappell Roan opens up about toxic fans + Emma Chamberlain's new man?

Transcript

MINI SCROLL: Cody Ko says 'Sorry' via DJ set, Chappell Roan opens up about toxic fans + Emma Chamberlain's new man? · Mini Scroll

• 0:00
  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
• 0:03
  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
• 0:06
  media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
• 0:10
  through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meissner,
• 0:12
  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
• 0:17
  Happy Monday everyone. I feel like I am literally
• 0:19
  saying that every second day. Like, I can't believe how fast
• 0:24
  the weeks are just flying by now that I have such a strong kind
• 0:29
  of hold, I guess grasp on the podcast schedule, the mini
• 0:32
  scroll schedule. It is wild.
• 0:35
  But let's just get into the stories for today.
• 0:38
  So the first story that I have for you guys.
• 0:41
  Oh my God, you guys. OK, so Cody Ko made a DJ
• 0:45
  appearance this weekend amid the Tana Mojo allegations.
• 0:49
  So Cody Ko has still refused to address the Tana Mojo
• 0:52
  allegations, and instead he is now, I guess, deejaying his way
• 0:58
  through it. Over the weekend, Cody made his
• 1:00
  first public appearance in weeks, playing a DJ set at
• 1:03
  Encore Beach Club in Las Vegas for a very, very high level
• 1:07
  recap. I'm sure you guys all know by
• 1:08
  now, and if you listen to this podcast, you've heard me talk
• 1:11
  about it many times. But pressure has been mounting
• 1:13
  on Cody since May 30th, when Tana confirms that she was just
• 1:17
  17 years old when she slept with Cody, who was allegedly 25 at
• 1:21
  the time. That wasn't the first time she'd
• 1:23
  addressed it it. She had spoken about this in
• 1:26
  different interviews on different podcasts.
• 1:27
  Like she talked about it here and there over the course of her
• 1:30
  career since it happened. And other people had also spoken
• 1:33
  about it, like Gabby Hannah talked about it on a podcast,
• 1:36
  but people weren't really using names.
• 1:38
  So yes, this was the first time where it really felt like people
• 1:41
  believed her. And it's stuck.
• 1:42
  And if you guys listen to Tana Mojo Part 2, which is coming on
• 1:45
  Friday, our deep dive into Tana Mojo's career history, her
• 1:49
  exploitation and now her redemption.
• 1:51
  We go into a little bit more detail on kind of why now people
• 1:55
  are like, quote UN quote believing her, which is a
• 1:57
  problem in and of itself, but it is the reality.
• 2:01
  So this allegation was covered by kind of smaller creators when
• 2:04
  it first came out on May 30th, but nobody who was kind of like
• 2:09
  really big in the commentary space, no mainstream outlets
• 2:12
  were really touching it yet until DeAngelo Wallace, who is a
• 2:17
  very highly respected commentary creator, made a bombshell video
• 2:22
  last week going through all the allegations, all the stuff about
• 2:24
  Cody brought up, the fact that, like Gabby Hannah had spoken
• 2:27
  about this on a podcast before, all of that put it all together
• 2:30
  and their video got, I think it's at like 2.8 million views
• 2:33
  right now. Like, it just absolutely
• 2:35
  exploded within the first, like, day.
• 2:37
  And now everybody has started talking about it.
• 2:40
  So Brittany Broski, Jarvis, Philip Defranco, like, these
• 2:44
  huge creators have now spoken out against Cody because I don't
• 2:48
  know, they kind of have to now. Like, the pressure is on.
• 2:50
  OK, so Cody did this DJ set looks completely unbothered.
• 2:55
  He's like having the best time ever.
• 2:56
  People are chanting his name. And then you guys, he played
• 3:01
  Sorry by Justin Bieber. If that is not a slap in the
• 3:06
  face, I do not know what is because everybody right now is
• 3:10
  waiting for him to address it and presumably say sorry, you
• 3:14
  know, so he played sorry and there's clips going everywhere
• 3:17
  of people being like, are you kidding me?
• 3:18
  His DJ said. I've seen two comparisons.
• 3:20
  I'm obsessed with both of them. The first comparison that I feel
• 3:24
  is very accurate is it's being compared to Colleen Ballinger's
• 3:27
  toxic gossip train. And people are like, why when
• 3:31
  these Youtubers are getting called out for like being creepy
• 3:33
  with minors, are they like using music as their outlet to address
• 3:38
  it? So that's the first comparison,
• 3:40
  which feels somewhat accurate. And the second one, though, that
• 3:43
  feels like so, so, so, so on branch, so true.
• 3:46
  People are comparing Cody Ko to Tom Sandoval.
• 3:49
  They're like, this is such a Tom Sandoval move.
• 3:51
  And it couldn't be truer. Like, that's exactly how Tom
• 3:53
  Sandoval handle handled Scandoval.
• 3:56
  He really was just like, fuck you guys.
• 3:59
  I'm going to capitalize on this. I'm going to go on tour with my
• 4:01
  band. I'm going to see myself as the
• 4:03
  victim in this situation instead of the perpetrator.
• 4:06
  I saw that comparison and I was like, yes, as far as we know,
• 4:10
  maybe it's not true. Maybe he's all torn up about it
• 4:12
  and he feels so guilty and, you know, but we don't know because
• 4:16
  he hasn't given us anything except for this DJ set.
• 4:19
  OK, The next story that I have for you guys is that Chapel
• 4:22
  Rhone just did an interview and she opened up about how crazy
• 4:26
  fans make her want to quit music or question if she should keep
• 4:30
  going. So Chapel Roan appeared on Drew
• 4:33
  Afuala's podcast, the comments section at the end of last week.
• 4:36
  First of all, this is such a huge get for Drew.
• 4:40
  Like this is so sick. Chapel Roan.
• 4:43
  She could go on any podcast she wants right now.
• 4:45
  She is like top of her game. Like she is the most famous pop
• 4:49
  star at the current moment. Maybe like her and Sabrina
• 4:51
  Carpenter, but like truly, I mean, and also Charlie XX, but
• 4:54
  you know what I mean? Like she could really like, I'm
• 4:56
  actually so happy that she went on Drew's podcast.
• 4:58
  Like it's the perfect fit for her.
• 5:01
  It shows that, you know, either Chapel or like whoever's around
• 5:04
  her, like gets the vibe like they're like online, they get
• 5:08
  the zeitgeist. They know what's going to hit.
• 5:10
  I'm so glad she didn't do like call her daddy or something that
• 5:13
  felt a little bit more obvious. It was very exciting to see her
• 5:17
  on this podcast. So they talked about a lot of
• 5:19
  things. And when they were talking about
• 5:21
  fame, one of the funny things that came out, Drew was like,
• 5:25
  what do you miss the most about life?
• 5:26
  I guess like pre fame. And she was like doing drugs in
• 5:30
  public. But yeah, she was just like, I
• 5:33
  miss frolicking. Like I miss having fun.
• 5:34
  I miss wearing Forever 21 and not giving a shit.
• 5:36
  Like I miss just like being able to essentially do whatever you
• 5:40
  want. One of the most interesting
• 5:42
  parts of their conversation to me.
• 5:44
  And like in relation to Centennial world, the infinite
• 5:47
  scroll universe, all of that was she talked about fan culture.
• 5:52
  She said, quote, people have started to be freaks.
• 5:54
  They follow me and know where my parents live and where my sister
• 5:57
  works, all this weird shit. This is the time when a few
• 6:00
  years ago when I said that if there were stalker vibes or my
• 6:03
  family was in danger, I would quit.
• 6:06
  And we're there. We're there.
• 6:08
  So allegedly she was talking about an experience that she had
• 6:12
  with one of her biggest fan accounts at Midwest Princess HQ,
• 6:16
  which has over 83,000 followers on Instagram and is like
• 6:20
  dedicated to fan updates and being a fan account of chapels.
• 6:23
  So this is from a Dazed article they write.
• 6:25
  Quote. According to other fan pages,
• 6:28
  one of the account admins, Nova, locked other admins out of the
• 6:32
  account and began to expose Roan's family's personal
• 6:35
  information, ultimately ending in Rhone unfollowing the
• 6:39
  account. We talk so much about Stan
• 6:42
  culture, toxic fandoms, parasocial relationships.
• 6:47
  And I think this is really interesting because you don't
• 6:49
  really hear like really big stars talk about this, You know,
• 6:52
  until like Gen. Z, really the people who were
• 6:56
  who were becoming famous, like they weren't necessarily
• 6:58
  chronically online, You know, even like millennials, I'm a
• 7:01
  millennial. And like, you know, our stars,
• 7:04
  it was before like Instagram and Twitter and stuff were really
• 7:07
  that big. So, you know, you weren't like
• 7:10
  chronically online and exposed to fandom culture and expected
• 7:14
  to engage with your stands and your fans in that same way that
• 7:17
  I think Gen. Z stars and obviously Gen.
• 7:20
  Alpha and then like generations following are expected now to
• 7:24
  engage with their fans online. And it's just so it's just so
• 7:28
  different now. They're exposed to it in such a
• 7:30
  different way. So it's interesting to hear her
• 7:32
  talk about this. And I really hope that these
• 7:34
  crazy stands don't run her out of the industry, don't scare her
• 7:39
  off because it is scary. And I completely respect that.
• 7:43
  She's like, I would quit if my family got in danger.
• 7:45
  Like that's not worth it to me. And I just think like, what do
• 7:49
  people benefit, especially if you're a fan?
• 7:51
  What do they benefit from exposing?
• 7:53
  Like doxing people and exposing personal information about their
• 7:56
  families if they are a fan especially.
• 7:59
  It's just it's so toxic. I mean, we've done so many
• 8:03
  episodes on like toxic fandoms and why fans get really toxic
• 8:07
  and really possessive. And I assume that's probably
• 8:09
  part of it. I assume that this fan account
• 8:11
  has been her fan for a long time.
• 8:13
  She obviously followed them on Instagram.
• 8:14
  So you know, they've probably been around for a while.
• 8:16
  And now that she's getting really big, they probably feel a
• 8:19
  bit possessive of her and they're lashing out now because
• 8:23
  of it because she's so popular. I mean, we all see it like I see
• 8:25
  it on Tiktok, so many clips constantly of people being like,
• 8:29
  so happy. I was a fan of Chapel Rone from
• 8:31
  like 2020. Now she's blown up and everybody
• 8:34
  is like obsessed with her. But I can say that I knew her
• 8:36
  first. Like everybody is so obsessed
• 8:38
  with being the one that like found the artist first or
• 8:41
  discovered. And like it's every generation.
• 8:43
  It's not like a Gen. Z thing.
• 8:45
  This happens in every generation.
• 8:46
  It's like you're not a real fan. But honestly, this is the
• 8:50
  consequence of that, of that attitude of that mentality is
• 8:54
  like it puts actually the fan object, the thing that you're
• 8:56
  obsessed with, it puts them in danger.
• 8:58
  So like, let's chill, let's pump the brakes, okay?
• 9:03
  And the last story that I have for you guys is that Emma
• 9:06
  Chamberlain reportedly has a new boyfriend.
• 9:09
  I feel like I'm a little bit late to this, but I saw Spill
• 9:11
  Sash talk about it on TikTok and I was like, okay, I have to talk
• 9:15
  about that because we have reported on all of Emmas,
• 9:18
  dating, relationship life over the last couple of years.
• 9:21
  So Emma has been rumoured to be with someone for a while now,
• 9:24
  mostly after her ex role model released a song in which he says
• 9:28
  that he heard she moved on to someone else, someone new.
• 9:32
  So people were kind of like, OK, she's definitely seeing someone
• 9:35
  new. What's going on?
• 9:36
  And now it seems fans are convinced that Emma is dating
• 9:40
  Peter Mcpoland after the two were spotted together several
• 9:44
  times in the last couple of weeks.
• 9:47
  Peter's a singer-songwriter. His song Romeo and Juliet.
• 9:50
  It was really, really popular a few years ago on TikTok.
• 9:53
  And you know, he also started following Emma's dad on
• 9:57
  Instagram. So people are like, OK, duh,
• 10:00
  this has to be it. But yes, very cute.
• 10:04
  I mean, she's, she's literally so private now.
• 10:06
  Like Emma is like truly like a private a list celebrity as
• 10:11
  opposed to like an influencer that you can even have like a
• 10:13
  parasocial relationship with because like she is just so
• 10:16
  she's scaled back so much because she's just so famous.
• 10:20
  So I don't know if we will ever get like a full confirmation,
• 10:24
  but I love this for her. She loves that kind of guy.
• 10:28
  Like she loves like a musician kind of indie.
• 10:32
  I'm going to get absolutely slammed for saying indie because
• 10:35
  last time I was talking about role model it was on the podcast
• 10:38
  with Geordie and like everybody was like, you are such an idiot.
• 10:41
  Like I can't believe you don't know about role model and like
• 10:44
  his lore and like his music. But I just I didn't.
• 10:47
  So people are probably going to be like Peter Mcpull and he's
• 10:50
  like so famous. He's not indie.
• 10:51
  I don't know, but to me he's indie.
• 10:53
  OK, anyways, guys, that's it for Mini scroll today.
• 10:57
  Thank you so much for listening. Please remember to rate, review
• 11:00
  and subscribe. It means so much.
• 11:02
  It helps me grow. I love you guys and I will talk
• 11:04
  to you guys tomorrow. Bye.