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INTERVIEW: Maryland Gov. Wes Moore On Lowering Energy Bills, Redistricting, ICE's Impact + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't every day up Wait, click your ass up the
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  Speaker 1: dangerous morning to show the Breakfast Club. Charlamagnea god jess hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Mimi Brown is actually sitting in with us right now,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a special guest.
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  Speaker 2: He pops up all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: He is the governor of Maryland and.
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  Speaker 1: A potential presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight. Bud, He's
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  Speaker 1: running for reelection. He's running for re election for governor
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  Speaker 1: right now, mister Wes.
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  Speaker 2: Moorees here, what's going on morning?
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the black Wall Street area of Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago at Everybody Loves Brunch with
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  Speaker 1: the good brother Derek Chase, and the way those brothers
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  Speaker 1: and people in that restaurant were speaking so highly of you, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was like wow, Like they were talking about how
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  Speaker 1: much you do for the state and how that impacts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, communities like the Black Wall Street area, and.
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  Speaker 2: You should be proud of that, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm proud of them. I mean you look at
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  Speaker 2: someone like someone like d Chase who's just been riding
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  Speaker 2: for the community shout out to d Chase And when
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  Speaker 2: y'all get down to Baltimore, please go check out Everybody
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  Speaker 2: Loves Brunch his new spot. But I'm just I'm proud
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  Speaker 2: of Baltimore, you know what I mean. Like, if you
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  Speaker 2: think about what was going on in Baltimore in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, right the whole Inner Harbor area was in receivership.
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore was averaging almost a homicide a day, that we
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  Speaker 2: had over seventeen thousand vacant homes inside of Baltimore, And
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  Speaker 2: we were very clear, it's like, now we're gonna move differently.
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  Speaker 2: So we said, we're actually gonna work with Baltimore instead
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  Speaker 2: of against them, working with the mayor. Shout out Mayor
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Scott. Scott. You know, we're working with community groups,
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  Speaker 2: working with local law enforcement, working with business leaders, and
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  Speaker 2: say we're going to turn this thing around. Look at
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore right now again, just three years since our inauguration, Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: the state of Maryland, has the fastest drop of violent
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  Speaker 2: crime anywhere in the United States of America. The last
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  Speaker 2: time the homicide rate was this loane in Baltimore, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't born yet. Wow, we now have a whole new
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  Speaker 2: vision for the downtown and a harbor, a whole build out.
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  Speaker 2: The Baltimore Warriors are now locked in for a thirty
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  Speaker 2: year for a thirty year deal. Preakness, the crown Jewel
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  Speaker 2: of the Triple Crown is going to stay inside of
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  Speaker 2: Park Heights, and we are going to invest in Park
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  Speaker 2: Heights in the way that it's been neglected for a
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  Speaker 2: long period of time. It is the seventh fastest growing
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  Speaker 2: economy of any major mid side cities in city inside
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  Speaker 2: the entire country, and is now ranked, according to Forest
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  Speaker 2: Magazine as the third best place for recent college graduates.
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  Speaker 2: Like we're on the move. Yeah, and so I'm so
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  Speaker 2: proud that, like this is a time where it's like
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore stand up and I'm just you know, I'm thankful
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  Speaker 2: for the work that's happening on earth.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to Maryland, they say, they say, the
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  Speaker 1: polls is shown you still hold a majority approval, but
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  Speaker 1: support has softened.
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  Speaker 2: How do you respond to that recent polling dead I
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  Speaker 2: don't even pay attention to it, you know. I Mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, I'm very listen. I think that people know
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  Speaker 2: the work that's happened right now that since I've been
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  Speaker 2: the governor, that we have now added over thirty five
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  Speaker 2: thousand new businesses to the state of Maryland, that we
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  Speaker 2: have been able to add nearly one hundred thousand new jobs,
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  Speaker 2: that we just made announcements that's bringing Astrozenica's making the
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  Speaker 2: largest private sector investment in our State's hist that Samsung
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  Speaker 2: Biologics is building their first manufacturing unit in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: Where are they're building it, They're building the state of Maryland,
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  Speaker 2: that the sphere is coming to the State of Maryland.
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  Speaker 2: That we've had historic drops within not just violent crime,
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  Speaker 2: but historic jumps when it comes to job productivity, and
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  Speaker 2: we were ranked forty third in the country unemployment and
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  Speaker 2: now have an unplom rate that significally lower than national average.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm thankful for the fact that you know that
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  Speaker 2: people seem to like the job that we're doing. And
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  Speaker 2: if anybody wants to challenge me, come with it.
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  Speaker 1: Exapt what you was talking about, you said West was
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  Speaker 1: leaving forty dollars on people dressing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm signing them.
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  Speaker 4: The forty dollar electric bill that you had. Yeah, how
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  Speaker 4: did you come to that number?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what happened was was that we said,
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  Speaker 2: what is the overall number that we can do to
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  Speaker 2: give people a little bit more support because right now
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  Speaker 2: we keep on hearing from everybody. I know it's not
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  Speaker 2: just a Maryland thing, it's a national thing. But like,
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  Speaker 2: these energy bills are crazy, and it's the same thing
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  Speaker 2: that we've been talking about for the past two and
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  Speaker 2: a half years since I've been the governor. It's saying
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  Speaker 2: there's a few things we got to do. One, we
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  Speaker 2: have to increase supply. That's the reason that I'm so
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  Speaker 2: big on saying we've got to invest in solar and
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  Speaker 2: wind and nuclear technologies because that increases supply, which will
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  Speaker 2: bring the prices down. That we have to do more
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  Speaker 2: to actually get more projects done. We're part of this
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  Speaker 2: thing called the PJAM Grid, which is thirteen states. Maryland
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  Speaker 2: is a part of that, and they have been ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: in terms of how restricted they are in terms of
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  Speaker 2: letting projects happen. If projects are not allowed to go through,
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  Speaker 2: then what's up happening is you are then decreasing supply,
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  Speaker 2: which is going to jack up prices. And so I've
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  Speaker 2: introduced legislation that's not just going to put money back
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  Speaker 2: in people's pockets, given people a rebate on these energy bills,
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  Speaker 2: but also saying we've got to increase projects, We've got
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  Speaker 2: to increase supply. That's also going to help bring people's
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  Speaker 2: bills down.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, in congratulations, y'all celebrated the major the major terminal enhancement.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it a concourse AB that's on. Y'all think
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  Speaker 4: that's BWI talk, you know what I'm saying. That's our
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  Speaker 4: airport Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, right, Baltimore, Washington Thirdgood Marshall Airport.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: No, listen, I'm telling you, I'm I'm loving how things
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  Speaker 2: are moving right now where it's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: understand what's going on with our FEDS, and I understand
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  Speaker 2: what's going on with the with the partnership that we
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  Speaker 2: have with our federal government, which I can talk about
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  Speaker 2: all day. But the thing I love about our state
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  Speaker 2: is that in Maryland, like we're not just pushing back,
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  Speaker 2: we're pushing forward. And we just want to show people
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  Speaker 2: what good governance actually looks like when you have leadership
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  Speaker 2: that actually, you know, loves the people.
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  Speaker 1: I want to look real quick, maybe I want to
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  Speaker 1: go to the forty dollar energy crediting real quick. What
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  Speaker 1: do you say to people who say that's that's that's
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  Speaker 1: not enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well I would say it isn't enough. You know that.
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  Speaker 2: We obviously always want to be able to do more
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  Speaker 2: for our people, but the best thing that we can
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  Speaker 2: do to actually be able to bring prices down is
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  Speaker 2: to increase supply.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: You know I have and I believe very much into
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  Speaker 2: all the above energy approach. That our energy approach includes
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  Speaker 2: natural gas, but also includes needs to include solar and
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  Speaker 2: wind and nuclear. And so when you have these people
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  Speaker 2: who are saying, well, we don't want to do you know, nuclear,
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  Speaker 2: or we don't want to do solar, or we don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do offshore win, what you were essentially doing
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  Speaker 2: is you're saying, then we're just going to keep on
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  Speaker 2: relying on old structures, the same restricted supply. And I
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  Speaker 2: tell people it's economics. It's supplying demand. When demand increases,
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  Speaker 2: you have to increase supply or prices jump. And so
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  Speaker 2: I actually think we need to do all of it,
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  Speaker 2: get put people, putting money back in people's pockets, and
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  Speaker 2: increase supply for energy.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Governor Maryland is home to one of the
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  Speaker 5: largest number of federal workers, right and with the government
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  Speaker 5: shut down that already happened and one is now possibly looming.
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  Speaker 5: How does that what does that uncertainty look like for
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  Speaker 5: the people of Maryland right now?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's devastating for us. Yeah, We've already had
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  Speaker 2: I mean Donald Trump and JD. Vance have already fired
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  Speaker 2: or twenty five thousand Marylanders that are workers. And we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about and people, remember, we're talking about federal workers
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  Speaker 2: who are doing things like making sure that our food
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  Speaker 2: is safe, who are using their talents to try to
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  Speaker 2: find the cures of diseases, who are making sure that
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  Speaker 2: our planes are not colliding. And these are the people
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  Speaker 2: who Trump Advance went after first. And so any type
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  Speaker 2: of impact like that has a disproportioned impact on us.
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  Speaker 2: We've had more people fired by this administration than anyone
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  Speaker 2: else in the entire country. And also any shutdown happens
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  Speaker 2: is devastating for us. But I also know this is
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  Speaker 2: when we're talking about ICE, we're talking about a force
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  Speaker 2: that has now increased their funding by seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent over the past year. Ice IS funding in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four was ten billion dollars. Ice IS funding
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  Speaker 2: now eighty five billion dollars. ICE is now the largest
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement agency in this entire country, bigger than the FBI,
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  Speaker 2: bigger than the ATF, bigger than the DEA. And what
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  Speaker 2: are they doing arresting five year olds killing American citizens?
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  Speaker 2: And where do people think that money is coming from?
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  Speaker 2: That ten to eighty five billion dollars? You know where's
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  Speaker 2: coming from is come from your healthcare. I'm from food assistance,
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  Speaker 2: so I you know, so listen, I am never for
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  Speaker 2: government shutdowns because I know it impacts me and my
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  Speaker 2: people more than any other governor in this country. But
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  Speaker 2: I also know this, we can't allow this to keep
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  Speaker 2: on happening.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, I mean because right now they're voting,
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  Speaker 5: or they were supposed to vote this morning. So would
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  Speaker 5: you agree with what Democrats are doing. They're holding out
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  Speaker 5: for to keep that funding from happening right now as they,
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  Speaker 5: you know, try and keep ICE from getting that funding.
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  Speaker 2: I think if the American people knew that your healthcare
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  Speaker 2: just got cut so we could continue to fund the
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  Speaker 2: thirteenth largest military force in the world. They are putting
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  Speaker 2: people in our streets who literally we used ago we're
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  Speaker 2: sitting on our couch playing video games, and now they're
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  Speaker 2: walking around our neighborhoods. With guns. They are many of
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  Speaker 2: these people. They are untrained, they are unqualified, and they're unaccountable.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think if the American people know that
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  Speaker 2: the reason in that food assistance is now getting cut,
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  Speaker 2: it's because we can continue putting together the kind of
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous increases and lack of accountability, and then and then
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  Speaker 2: when these tragedies happen, we get gas lit bye bye.
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  Speaker 2: By Christy Nome nah Man. I think the American people
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  Speaker 2: wild think very different.
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  Speaker 5: And we know that ice is a big problem in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: How big is it in Maryland right now?
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  Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's it's a problem everywhere. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're watching this surge in in Minnesota. That is that
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  Speaker 2: again does not make sense when you're actually talking about
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  Speaker 2: what is the what is what is the problem you're
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  Speaker 2: actually trying to address. But but the reality is you
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  Speaker 2: were watching how this is taking place in most cities
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  Speaker 2: all around the country, and and particularly for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of our cities, we're the ones being targeted, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like and and staying on ice, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like in this year is midterms, the Trump administration may
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  Speaker 1: use ICE, which I believe is just Trump's personal army
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  Speaker 1: at this point, I feel like he's going to use
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  Speaker 1: him to disrupt our intimidated voters at polling places. Is
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  Speaker 1: that a concern for you? And as governor of Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: how do you prevent that from happening. It's a major concern.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, and they're not even hiding it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like when they say, listen, we can we'll back
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  Speaker 2: out if you give your voter files. What have to
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  Speaker 2: do with the other They are very clear about what's
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  Speaker 2: happening that there is an intentional disenfranchisement that is now
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  Speaker 2: trying to take place where where And it's a part
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  Speaker 2: of the reason that I've been so hard on this
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  Speaker 2: redissecting push in the state of Maryland. When people are like, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's only one seat, I was like, it's not about
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  Speaker 2: one seat. It's about democracy and are you willing to
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  Speaker 2: fight or not? Because right now, and I tell people
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  Speaker 2: it is very personal to me because it's personally because
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  Speaker 2: there has been no state that has been more impacted
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  Speaker 2: by the Trump vance administration than the state of Maryland.
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  Speaker 2: When you're looking at job cuts, when you look in
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  Speaker 2: the fact we've had billions of dollars taken away from
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  Speaker 2: our balance sheet, we have not received a single dollar
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  Speaker 2: in federal disaster relief. Then, in fact, no state that
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  Speaker 2: has not voted for Donald Trump has received a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: So it's personal for that reason. But also so it
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  Speaker 2: is personal because i am the only black governor in
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  Speaker 2: this country, and I'm only the third African American ever
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  Speaker 2: elected governor in the history of America. And when I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching the political redlining that they are doing, when I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching the way they are redlining in Texas and Florida
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  Speaker 2: and Ohio and North Carolina, ask Jasmine Crockett about the
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  Speaker 2: red line and that's taking place in her district. Ask
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  Speaker 2: Jim Clyburn, Ask Emmanuel Cleaver right about what's taking place.
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  Speaker 2: And now they're trying to go after the Voting Rights
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  Speaker 2: Act and they want our voter files. Like guys, they
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  Speaker 2: are playing in our face in broad daylight. And so no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit down and be quiet. And
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  Speaker 2: so I'm really proud of the work that in Maryland
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  Speaker 2: right now, the Maryland House of Delegates, led by and
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  Speaker 2: shout out to Jocelyn Penia Melnik, the Maryland Speaker of
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  Speaker 2: the House, the first Afro Latina to ever hold that position,
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  Speaker 2: is leading the charge and saying no, if the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the country is going to have a conversation about
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  Speaker 2: what does a fair map look like and the map
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  Speaker 2: that actually represents the will of people, then so a
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  Speaker 2: Maryland working its way through the House, and that as
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  Speaker 2: the as it works makes its way to the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: Our ask is very simple, do what the House just did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so you all going to do the redistricting one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent going to go to very and and and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm not backing down, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: playing I'm not and I'm not gonna blank on this one.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, y'all take it to the floor, debate it,
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  Speaker 2: make adjustments if you want, but vote. We're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: let y'all sit behind not voting.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you do as Governor Ice pulls up
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  Speaker 1: midterm election day? They got their guns, they have polls,
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing stories about them keeping people fro voting. What
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  Speaker 1: does the governor then do?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're already working with our Attorney general to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that our that our voting, that our voting
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  Speaker 2: boosts are safe and free, make sure we're protecting mail
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  Speaker 2: and mail in voting, which the President is already said
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  Speaker 2: you're going to try to go after what the president
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  Speaker 2: is going to remember is that the president does not
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  Speaker 2: have ultimate power. That voting actually is a state function.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why for governors, for attorney generals, for
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  Speaker 2: for you know, independent voting commissions like we have in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Maryland, like, we're gonna do our job.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna make sure we're gonna protect the voice of
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  Speaker 2: our people. We're gonna protect democracy, and we are not
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  Speaker 2: going to you know, we're not going to give up
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  Speaker 2: our voter files because we somehow think that that's going
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  Speaker 2: to influence anything else you do around us. Cause you
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  Speaker 2: break that.
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  Speaker 1: Down for people who don't know, like when they hear
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  Speaker 1: the fans ran up in Georgia and took the voter.
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  Speaker 2: Rules, what does that mean? Well, I mean what it
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  Speaker 2: means is that so when you're looking at the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they're looking at the election of twenty twenty and
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  Speaker 2: first let's put this in context as if anybody thinks
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  Speaker 2: that's a main priority issue for people who trying to
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  Speaker 2: pay their electricity bills, for people who are watching the
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  Speaker 2: price of beef go up twenty one percent, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're like and the president spending his time
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  Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty election. That's his priority. But what
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to do now, they're trying to look for
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  Speaker 2: infractions for the twenty twenty election, which by the way,
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  Speaker 2: has already been done, and every single court case that
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  Speaker 2: came up on this has been turned down. Every judge
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  Speaker 2: says there's nothing to see here. But the President of
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  Speaker 2: the United States, instead of focusing on making sure that
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  Speaker 2: life can be a little bit more affordable, instead of
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  Speaker 2: focusing on housing prices, is focusing on him self and
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  Speaker 2: what happened in twenty twenty. That's the focus of this administration.
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  Speaker 1: Lord, have mercy. We're talking to Governor wes More. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk to Governor wes More some more, and
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  Speaker 1: when we come back, some more, when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: Governor wes Moore some more, when we come back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we love the name more because you got a
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  Speaker 4: more thing right here and say.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is true.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to ask you, Governor war they were
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  Speaker 1: whistleblower allegations involving Maryland's handling of snap benefits, and your
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  Speaker 1: office denied it. What do you say to residents who
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  Speaker 1: worry about transparency and accountability there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, we were about transparency accountability. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: I first came on board, one of the first people
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  Speaker 2: that I hired it was a chief Performance officer, whose
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  Speaker 2: job it is and has been working with every single
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  Speaker 2: one of our state agencies to make sure we are
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  Speaker 2: running an efficient government, to make sure we are dressing
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  Speaker 2: any issues of waste or abuse, and if there's issues
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  Speaker 2: of criminal behavior or fraud, we make sure we prosecute
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  Speaker 2: people in the state of Maryland. So everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about this allegation is is, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about what conversations people have. I'm a results
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: guy and hear the results. When I first became the governor,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Maryland was second in the country in snap error rate,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: which means we're one of the highest error rates inside
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: the country. We came in and we said we've got
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: to deal with this issue and bring this down. Since
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I've been the governor, the snap ra rate has dropped
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: by sixty percent, amongst the fastest drop in the entire country,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: and we now have additional resources to continue bringing the
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: rate down. So my point is this, I look at results,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: and I look at numbers, and the numbers are showing
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: that our administration has done amongst the best job in
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the country of bringing down the snap err rate, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to keep on doing that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Would you support an independent investigation to put the issue
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: just full lead the rest?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Well, we have this process going on on through our
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: entire state. Got you already right now. So we're we're
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: cooperaate rating with all this stuff. And so I you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I understand that, uh, you know, people are trying to
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: you know, people trying to pick and find et cetera.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: But the reality is we cooperate with all independent work
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: because and also our results show for that.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: You know. Charlamagne brought up earlier about the voter rolls
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: in Georgia. Did the Trump administration come to Maryland and
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: ask for your voter Absolutely?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I told him you ain't getting that, But
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: what what do you need it for? Like it is,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with anything that y'all are doing.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with your work. And so
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: we protect our people's information to protect our people's day. Listen,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: they know, like I always tell people, like listen, I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: a soldier. Yeah, I'm a soldier. We fight for our
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: people from now we're not. We're not we are not cooperating.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: And I don't feel like you told them now you
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: ain't getting that. I feel like you probably told the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: men go funk off, go to hell.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Let's take some call that we got on the line. Right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Good morning?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Who's this? Hey? More on instant a dele adele.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, the singer, Good morning to day.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: You gotta mister Baltimore to stuff.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, you got you got a question for your governor
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Adele Yes, sir.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: First of all governments, I want to appreciate you fault
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you're doing for Maryland. You're doing a great job.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks brother, respect.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: People do stuff A brother about a good point this
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: morning about the housing prices, and I was wondering, like,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: what plans do you have since you can do? And
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: what can I do myself? So I'm in a townhome
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: right now with the family of four of us, and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: we're just with bills and work and trying to afford
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: just the down payment for a house, and then the
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: costs for the mortgages are so high in Maryland. I
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: was wondering, if you get any plans to make that better?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And can I play myself telling.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: My family he's talking about Trump raising the housing prices
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: but lower in the interest rates, right.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do. Yeah, yeah it does does. Shout
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: out man, and good to talk to you. You know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. I have been probably one of the most
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: aggressive governors in the country since we came on board
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: on housing because you know, I know that housing plays
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a really interesting role because housing has been housing is
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the greatest pusher of poverty, housing security in the country.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But also the other side is it's also the greatest
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: pusher of wealth. Right, So housing kind of sits at
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the barbell and part of the reason we put so
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: much focus on it, and we've really been focusing on
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: creating more inventory, creating more options for people to become homeowners,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: more options for renters to be able to build their homes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: A Dell. You should actually check out legislation that we
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: got passed that actually helps support help support not just
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: first time home buyers, but also renters to put for
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: down payment assistance for them to be able to buy homes. Also,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: part of the reason that we are focusing on on
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: this inventory issue is making it easier for people to
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: be able to build. One of the challenges we've always
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: had was that. You know, there were local land commissioners
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: who are like, now, we're not doing this, not doing now.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how does a local land commission have more
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: power than the governor? And so I said, so, actually,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I actually signed an executive order last year where I said,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I want an inventory of all state owned land in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the state of Maryland. And it just what happens in
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Maryland owns the state of Maryland owns more land than
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: anyone else in the state of Maryland. And I said, good,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I want an inventory of all of it, and I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: want to be able to build housing on all of it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So I signed an executive order where we said, now
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: we're actually working to say, let's focus on things like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: density bonuses, let's focus on transit oriented development. Let's focus
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: on things that particularly on state owned land, where people
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: should not be able to tell the governor, no, we're
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: not doing this, or no we're not be able to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: doing that. So you'll see I mean, and we've had
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a significant increase in not just housing starts, but housing
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: completions and also opportunities to be able to buy into it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: So we're working with our local folks to make it happen.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: But we're not playing like if you want to focus
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: on addressing the issue of poverty and if you want
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to focus on the issue of actually increasing wealth, it
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: all comes back to one simple answer, housing thank you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Line six is a Brooklyn school teacher who's using your
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: books in her classroom.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Governor, good morning, who's this what's your name?
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Good morning? My name is Missus James. I am an
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Ela teacher in Brooklyn, New York, and we currently just
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: wrapped up reading the other westwards. We are analyzing what
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: shapes a person their environment, what shapes their identity. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: it's so funny because today we have a walking tour
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: where we're analyzing two different neighborhoods and the students have
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: the right of thesis. And this is a high school student,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: by the way, on environment. So thank you for writing
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: such an amazing book that kids in New York City
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: can relate to. And as an English teacher, I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: that every English teacher, every English class in Brooklyn should
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: use that book.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: As that's amazing. Shout out Missus Jane Man, shout out
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and God bless you, and and and thank you for
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: your work and your service too, and and shout out
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: to your students too. I really appreciate y'all. You know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it's it's when I wrote that book, I never expected
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that it would be made curriculum.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: In fact, I always tell students I feel bad for
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that because I know how popular mandatory reading was when
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I was coming up. But but you know, and you
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you remind me of a conversation I actually have with
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: West when I asked him, I said, so, do you
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: think there were products of our environments? And what's was sorry,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: sorry yourself, because myself just asked myself no. But yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the story is that, uh that around the same time
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that I received a Roade scholarship that I learned about
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a guy who was involved in a in a robbery
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that killed and all through the police officer. And the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: more I learned about this story, the more I learned
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: about him and his name was also Wes Moore, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the amount of parallels that we had with in our life,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and I remember I was I was seeing him and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I asked him, I said, do you think there were
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: products of our environments? And he looked back at me
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and he said, actually, I think we're products of our expectations.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And that always sat with me, and so part of
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the reason, miss Jane, just much love and respect is
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: because you know, the expectations that we put on our kids.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how much they either live up to them
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: or how much they live.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Down to.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Man As Governor Wes Moore, he's running for re election
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: of governor of Maryland right now, potential twenty twenty eight.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of dual policies in Maryland.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I think would work on the national level.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't disagree with that, Yes, I don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: disagree with that. So helln's the model, you know model?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: So Governor, We're used to seeing you as the governor
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: of Maryland, right, but I saw a clip right and
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: who knew you had singing jobs.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Richard Small was a funeral, huge.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Center of my joy. I'm being telling what took over
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: you in that moment.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It runs in a family first of all, it sure does,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and you know, so you know one I was just
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I was honored and proud that the family asked asked
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: me to uh to speak at his funeral. I mean,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: he was a legend, one of the greatest gospel artists
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that we've had, and he was a Marylander and so
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and so when we got up there, we were given tribute,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and I said, how this man he basically did like
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the soundtrack of our salvation as we're coming up and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and uh, and I let people know it's like, listen,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I'm proud to be a governor and all that kind
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of stuff. But number one, I'm a child of God.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like I know who woke me up this morning, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I know who put me to bed, who will put
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: me to bed tonight, I know who orders my steps
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and uh. And so when I was getting up there
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and talking about him, and I started reciting some of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the lyrics to you know, center of my Joy, it
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: just kind of hit me and I just started singing, Jesus,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: You're the center of my joy. Oh that's good, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And and all that's good and perfect comes from you,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: because I believe that. I believe that Jesus is the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: center of our joy. That that that that he guides
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: our path and he orders our steps, and he watches
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: our words and he protects us. And so that's the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: reason I know that Like when I walk around, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: walk around with the greatest head of protection, because I'll
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: walk around with God's love and God's grace and so
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that my wife, who can really sing, She's like, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: cannot believe you just sang O Richard Smallwood song and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Richard Smallwood's ongoing, And I said, that's right, you marry
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: someone bold. I guess how does feel you saying bring
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the pain in the daily from range from from Richard Smallwood?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: What you got, Marilyn, look at y'all signed up us?
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: But that said, what's the hardest part of trying to
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: govern right now? With Washington being so polarized?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, I think that the people of
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: our state know that we're going to focus on the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: things that matter to them. We're going to focus on
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: making our state more affordable, We're going to focus on
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: making sure that our state is more competitive. But most importantly,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they know that in me, I'm a protector by nature, right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I protect my people and that includes my state and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: includes all six and a half million of them. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, whether you're talking about making
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: sure that our kids in Baltimore are getting everything that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they need to achieve their joy, or whether it is
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: talking about what happened in western Maryland where when they
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: had historic flooding and got no support from Christino. You know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: when people talk about as Christian, don't qualified. I So
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I could have told them she won't qualified months ago
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: when she turned around, when she turned around and gave
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the Western Maryland, by the way, a state that voted
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: seven of ten people in Western Maryland voted for Donald Trump,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and told them that support from Maryland is not warranted.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to fight for them just as hard
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: as I'm gonna fight for my kids in Baltimore. And
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: so I think that it's a challenging time for people
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to govern, no doubt about it. But I also know
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: it's never been a more important time. And you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it matters to people who your governor is, who your
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: mary is, who your attorney general is, because for many
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: of us, you become both the last line of defense
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: against this assault that we're seeing from the federal government,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: but also you become the ones that can show what
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: right should actually look like.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Do you realize how important your record is going to become?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You know, twenty twenty eight if you decide to run,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like the American people, you know, yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: we've seen the celebrity thing. We know people can go
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: out there and cut through with media. But I really
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: think people are going to be paying attention to record.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: That's why I think it's going to be a governor
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that comes out as the front runner in twenty twenty eight.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think about that, well, I mean, here's what
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I do think about is I think you're absolutely right
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: that no one is going to want to hear who
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: had the quickest lines or who had this What have
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you done to make people's lives better? What have you
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: done to show what an alternative can actually look like?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm really proud of the work that we have
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: done in the state of Maryland to protect our people
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: in good times and bad times, Like we make sure
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that our people are good. But I think it does
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: go back to you know, when I first ran for office,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I was not the party's choice, you know what I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Like like there were like twelve other people running against me,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and all of them were like lifelong politicos, count executive
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: state wide elected officials. The head of the Democratic Party
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: ran and then me, the guy who had never run
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: for us for my life, a guy who frankly comes
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: from a family who my family is used to be
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is used to suffering the consequences of policies, not making
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the policies, And so when people were trying to say, like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: what do you think the future of the Democratic Party
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: is in our state? My answer is I can't tell
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you that because I'm not taking you know, I'm not
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: taking account for some of the stuff, and frankly on
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff, I can't defend the indefensible. But
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: what I can tell you is this, I can tell
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you what I think the future of my state should be.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you about party politics. I can tell
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you about what I think the future of the direction
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that my people should advance in. And that's how we've
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just continued trying to leave. That's all I've been looking at.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, when I look at some of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: things you've been doing in Maryland, like this service year
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and apprenticeship program, I know that can work on a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: national level. Tell people what that is and why I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: can work on the Nastaly.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because I remember when I
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: led soldiers in Afghanistan, and I remember when I started
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: running for governor. I had people who I served with
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan who came in campaigned for me, and many
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: of them were not Marylanders, and many of them were
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: not Democrats, but they were literally going door to door,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: knocking on doors and being like, I just want to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: tell you about the guy that I served with, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you know, but it made me remember that, like, in
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: this time of this political divisiveness and political vitriol, that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: service will save us. And so we made Maryland the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: first state in the country that now has a service
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: year option for all of our high school graduates. Every
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: high school graduate now has a chance to do a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: paid year service to the state of Maryland. They get
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: paid while they're doing their work, and they get a
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: six thousand dollars stipend at the end of it, so
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: they can use towards whatever they want to use towards.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: And the only thing we ask them is just tell
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: us what makes your heart beat a little bit faster?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Is it young people, is it veterans, is it animals,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: is it the environment? Is it older? Just tell us,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and we're going to give you a paid experience to
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: go live that out and to go change the world.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And so we're now seeing how you know, Maryland started it,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but we're now seeing states all over the country that
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: are now modeling the work that we did around our
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: service year.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Some of your earliest support, earliest support came from others
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: across the aisle. You've always been able to bring in
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: a coalition of bipartisan support.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: That's the right me, me, And you know, it was
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: really interesting because when we announced that's exactly right, when
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: we announced our re election, some of the first people
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that came out were and kind of executives who are
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Republicans who were like, listen, I mean when the governor
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: says that he's going to build a big table that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: is big enough for all of us, he means it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And and one thing they know about me is this
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: is like, I'm not I'm not some like partisan hack man,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not a like I don't I don't believe
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in any of that stuff. I believe do you do
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you care about the people or not? And so even
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: and and and when they came out and endorsed me,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: all these Republicans with the day I announced reelection, they said, listen,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I agree with the governor and everything,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: but what I am saying is this, if we disagree
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday, he's going to invite his back on Wednesday.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: And say what else can we work on? And they're like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and that's all we can ask for? Love that you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: before you go, Governor, there's a question I have to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: ask you. I hate to ask you. This might be
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a little controversial, that's all right. But every time you come,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: people like, why didn't you ask? Why didn't you ask?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Are you related to styles p? Everybody?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Everybody always wants to know, are you related to styles Pe?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Everybody said, we look alike. All I'm saying is you've
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: never seen us in the room together. Dang, listen, I do.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I do jesushire the center of my joy. But I
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: also do I get high to It's governor with more
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: at the breakfast clubs every day a week ago, click
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: your ass up the breakfast club finish for y'all.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Done,